If the House of Windsor Were To Die Out

Edit: Queen Victoria did have a bunch of kids.

There would be no new royal family. People are just over it. The current one is hanging on by a thread.

It would take a lot for them to die out.

There are probably thousands.

They'd hold a lottery, OP.

according to this one, the 5753rd in line is Karin Vogel, a German hospital therapist, with her own Wikipedia entry.

[quote] according to this one, the 5753rd in line is Karin Vogel, a German hospital therapist, with her own Wikipedia entry.

[quote] As a therapist, she works with older people who have chronic pain.

Pity she couldn't have treated the late Queen.

A monarch can create a House. George V created Windsor (out of thin air) because the previous House was named from his father's line Saxe-Cobourg-Gotha. In WWI, that felt a little too German under the circumstances. The previous house was Hanover, The House of Hanover, that ruled Hanover, Great Britain, and Ireland at various times during the 17th to 20th centuries.

In the UK, if ALL of the descendants of George V were eliminated, succession carries to descendants of George V's siblings as children of Edward VII. The heir to the throne would be the present Duke of Fife, a descendant of Edward VII and Alexandra by their daughter, Louise. His "House," would be what he named it. As his surname is Carnegie, he could name it the House of Carnegie.

If he and all in Louise's line died our, the heir would be King Harald V of Norway, descended from Edward's and Louise's younger sister, Maud. His heir is Crown Prince Haakon. His is the House of Glücksburg, shortened from the House of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg, a collateral branch of the German House of Oldenburg.

Royal Houses' names generally are patrilineal and fixed. The British royal family, turning from their own Germanic name taken from Albert as Victoria's breeder to "Windsor" with World War I, has been a rarity - driven by politics. A similar rethinking occurred with Elizabeth II having children by Philip, but in the end it was determined to keep the name Windsor rather than handing things to Philip. The need to maintain the appearance of the connection to Victoria from her uncles from George III was deemed wise.

With Harald we are waaaaay down on the list.

Thanks!

[quote] their own Germanic name taken from Albert as Victoria's breeder

God, that’s vulgar. But highly informative.

Great thread!

Assuming “Windsor” includes all of Victoria’s Saxe-Coburg and Gotha descendants (which is more fun), it’s the German descendants of Ernest Augustus King of Hanover, who was next in line to the throne after Victoria. They start the 1-1-1-1-5 section of the awesome, though slightly outdated list at R6’s link.

But R8 is also right. A more correct reading would just be removing the descendants of George V, who created “Windsor”, which would then start to include the Lascelles and the Norwegian royals descended from Edward VII younger kids.

Probably the Beckhams?

If Victoria had not had any children, who'd be on the throne now?

Queen Victoria had 1238 descendants, 983 of them living, you're a fucking dickhead OP.

R14, Prince Ernst of Hanover, who is married to Princess Caroline of Monaco.

"I want to be a Klan Granny

I want to be a Gran"

You can sing that to the tune of Queen's Bicycle Race.

It isn't Windsor, or Windsor-Mountbatten, nor even Saxe-Coburg-Gotha family who sit upon British throne. Rather legal heirs of Electress Sophia of Hanover.

Per terms of Act of Settlement descendants of Electress Sophia are also heirs to British throne.

At last count there are about 5000 or so such persons. Suffice to say even if Windsor family were totally wiped out Parliament has a deep list to find another monarch.

As of 2001

Order of Succession as of 2011

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It will never die out, OP.

That's the point of the Line of Succession being so very, very long.

Remember even if entire Windsor-Mountbatten (children of late Elizabeth II and their heirs) clan were gone just as with nobility search would go backwards to cousins (children of George V), there you would find Dukes of Gloucester and Kent and Princess Mary of York, all had children.

If that didn't work things would look back another generation to Edward VII, there things would get complicated.

ohhh...i found out i was supposedly connected to the house of stuart and then the dna proved it!

R22 If E2's descendants were wiped out, then before the Gloucesters and Kents would come Margaret's descendants.

R18 is ridiculous.

R22 doesn't read.

R14, I would!

I am poor.

I am pointless.

I am hopeless.

I am suckered.

I am repetitive.

I am R17.

R23 = Papist

Prince Albert's family name was actually Wettin (a branch of Saxe Coburg and Gotha). Queen Victoria found this out after ordering College of Heralds to sort out what exactly was her (by then) late husband's name.

Later on when George V had everyone scrambling about to find a new name for his family as their German connections were becoming inconvenient, Wettin once again turned up. It was rejected out of hand as being too "comical".

Like Dumbarton.