'Harry & Meghan' documentary ranks as Netflix's biggest documentary debut

Every new netflix show with important people is a "hit"

Two ‘Whiny B*tches’

R1 why are you always referencing CDAN when you bitch if I do it?

Hate watching is a global phenomenon.

It’s actually embarrassing for them that it’s only the biggest “documentary”. So what? I can’t think of a single other major documentary - series or one off - that has been released on Netflix with any fanfare at all. Making A Murderer, I suppose, but what else?

12% approval rating on IMBD, apparently. Ouch.

Netflix announces some new show has broken a record every other week.

It's the new Tiger King!

R5 it isn’t a scripted series. It will be compared to documentaries, not scripted series.

So after this series and the book, are they finally going to move on?

Or will there be more whining bitching pissing and moaning we can look forward to?

Er, what R8? Yes, I know 🙄

The point I was (clearly) making is that it’s the “highest rated documentary series” (if it is) is the best that can be said. And that’s not a big deal given that Netflix is not noted for documentary series so there’s little competition.

Less that a million Americans watched it on release day. That’s a flop.

R8, you are right. That’s the category, and it was produced by a documentary film team.

Netflix has a sorry selection of “documentaries”. I tried watching “Stutz” the other day and had to stop. That pitiful excuse Jonah Hill made half the “documentary” about himself and his sadness about being obese, instead of the titular Dr. Stutz. There are no standards anymore, Jesus Christ.

But anyway, Netflix is just trying to save face. I don’t blame them.

The best documentary ever is “Grey Gardens”. The second best is “Tabloid”.

When does the sequel come out?

r12 "Harry & Meghan part 2: Yeah my family still hate me"

R11 I seriously cannot remember ever watching a documentary on Netflix, or seeking one out. I’m sure I must have done but I can’t recall. If anyone has any recommendations, I’ll take them.

Here in the UK H&M are deeply disliked but I never thought that would be the case in the US. I’ve always said that America doesn’t care enough about them to actively dislike (or love) them and I think that’s what we’re seeing. Their brand will not succeed without American interest so I think they’re fucked.

Harry and Meghan are a 'documentary' like the Kardashians are a 'documentary.'

Let's get real. It's a REALITY SHOW.

I'm sure it RANKS all right...

Yep, R15.

Harry and Meghan are vulgar.

Netflix had a winner from the start. The hate watching guarantees higher view counts. The obsessive white Karen's can't not watch. The UK tabloids 450 articles per day on it just boosted viewing. But the uk tabloids can't ignore it as the Sussex increase their read count. It is sublime.

I'm gonna hate-watch SUITS just to spite Meghan.

That'll show her!

Here's the great thing- they now have a cottage industry of being hate-brated. They can pivot from bemoaning his family to bemoaning the hate-watchers, gaining more hate-watchers in the process. It's a feedback loop.

As more people watch them, more hate them, which generates more hate watchers, which generates more hate watching...

It’s not a winner, though, R19. Shame you had to get racist about it….but, since we’re there, most of the views from your side of the pond are race-baiting, perennial victims called Shanice, no doubt.

I’m actually not hate watching it because I don’t hate them, and when in”hate” someone, I don’t give them ratings. I liked the first part and can’t wait to see the rest.

'Mary & Meghan' mockumentary

Diana's legacy. Her pussy whipped son.

[quote]People are understandably furious with Prince Harry and Meghan. If they wanted to be left alone by the press, they should have just raped underage girls. #HarryandMeghanNetflix

Any Oscar buzz?

A hit for Netflix, which means nothing.

Word is, they won’t be invited R27

I thought Tiger King was the biggest hit documentary for Netflex?

It was the biggest documentary debut for Netflix ON 12/8/22.

I tried, but I couldn't even hate-watch it. Ugh. A snore and a cringe-fest.

I’m not a fan or a hater but I couldn’t watch it. Snooze fest.

William telling his friends that his relationship with bro Harry is over:

I have zero interest in watching the show and haven't read any 'reviews' of it but a headline for a review did catch my eye and gave me a chuckle. They labeled it 'Ginger and the Whinger'.

Thread started by DL's resident Sussex fancunt. Beware.

When is Meg's workout tape being released? I need a companion piece for Fergie's diet book.

Bwahahahaha.

The William and Kate STANS are just fuming over this.

Harry and Meghan are W.I.N.N.I.N.G., and it just infuriates their haters, more and more.

Despite all of their hatred and bile that they continue to spew towards Harry and Meghan, the BRF/William/Kate STANS get it all right back in their faces!

Harry and Meghan are living their best lives, and raking in big bucks!

They don't need Charles, William, Waity Katie, or the stupid BRF.

They have their own money now. And their own lives, and their own family.

Far, far away from the UK.

Oh, and to make it even sweeter? They still get to keep their TITLES.

Seethe, haters. SEETHE!!!

I'm sure it is getting a lot of views, which is probably bad thing for them, as they're only alienating the neutrals who didn't realize how shallow they are, how dumb Harry is, how vain and inauthentic Meghan is, how tenuous their victimhood claims are.

The hate watchers are getting more to laugh at, Netflix is getting lots of publicity, their fans are getting all the Instagram family-influencer pics, the BRF is getting their image burnished by comparison with their ridiculousness. M&H are the only losers in this.

“Oh? is that good?”

R18 the entire Windsor clan is vulgar.

R38, do you still not get that people are calling them out on their hypocrisy and lies? That does not necessarily equate to hate. That’s your projection, and no one is SEETHING.

You’re fun to poke though.

In high school I was friends with the children of a very famous and (at the time) powerful politician.

It always fascinated me to visit their house and see everything was chaotic, disorganized, and just ordinary.

The more we see behind the scenes with the BRF, the more we realize they are rather dim and even trashy. Why, again, do they deserve their cushy lives at taxpayer expense?

No, not a hit, unless you count certified trolling as a hit.

LOL, not scripted? Everywhere Megan could direct the action, or lack thereof.

One easy example is the scene in vehicle where they're being "chased" by a so-called paparazzi on a scooter. You can see Harry repeatedly looking down at the open folder in his lap, but he kept missing his lines/ camera shifts. Megan is heard talking but is not actually speaking. And the driver, LOL? Yeah, those lines weren't written for him.

Megan obviously practices a lot of what she says, with gestures and expressions. She's an actress, after all. Harry just flubs and needs to be tapped on the hand or patted on the back to redirect him.

How is it a documentary when it’s complete fiction?

Am I the only one who is wondering how the hell we got so many Meghan Markle Hater Trolls who don't even know how to spell the name "Meghan"? It's very weird.

Meghan and Harry are PROFOUNDLY damaged people.

Sounds like it is a hit for Netflix, but is it a victory for H and M? How? Wasn't it supposed to make them more likable so they could market their brand and profit from merchandising? What corporation would want to be associated with this clearly disliked pair. A 12% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes makes them toxic. Or am I missing something?

Broken record, but you'd think this dense woman had never lived in America before. The public only care if you are an actual victim of an actual crime, do and say salacious things (repeatedly), or contribute something meaningful. None of those have happened. I don't blame simpleton Harry. He seems hoodwinked.

I do enjoy talking about them, though, because he's destined to return home, divorced, while she flames out as another failed celebrity. There is always a reason people have no friends.

R38, if the BRF is so stupid, WHY do the Harkles want to keep their titles so much?

As hard as it is for you, please try to think it through.

Anyone viewing this is trash with no taste.

R50, I do blame Harry. He's as malicious as she is. He opened the door to her shitting on his family and he loves every minute of it, bar a moment when she recounted her experience curtseying HMTQ.

Neither of them have anything meaningful to offer the world, but Harry clearly thinks he's superior to his family now. All as he clings pathetically to his titles. Will the second lot of horseshit show him being introduced at the UN as the Duke of Essex? That must have killed him a little.

Cope and seethe, Klan Grannies.

Cope and seethe.

"We are NOT seething, but I just can't..." [copes and seethes for 30 pages]

Harry and Meghan are benefiting from, and taking advantage of, American ignorance about Britain and the royal family. Although being wholly cluless does not stop tossers like R43 feeling inclined to comment nonetheless - and that’s the problem.

*sigh*

Taxpayers don’t pay for the BRF. They are self-funding and have been since the Restoration. They pay taxes which far exceed the amount we give them in the form of the Sovereign Grant (which pays the expenses of the diplomatic work they do) - so they give more than they take. The only thing we pay for is their security & taking responsibility for not having our head of state assassinated is fair enough, I think.

And “what’s the point of them”? We are a constitutional monarchy, dear…the monarch stands as the living representative of the people. That’s what a head of state is. You have one and so do we. So what’s the fucking problem?

Trashy? Really? This from the nation that sent us a bit part actress with plastic teeth, a bad nose job and the most extraordinary sense of greedy entitlement we’ve ever seen. And it’s the BRF that are “trashy”?

It’s also notable that many countries still maintain a monarchy - but it’s only Britain’s which comes under such attack. Why is that? Because of the xenophobic bigotry of ignorant yanks. No longer allowed to engage in the apartheid system your parents so enjoyed you have had to find another outlet for the racism that is so intrinsic to your characters…and it’s the British that you’ve chosen as your targets.

What an awful nation you are. Truly.

Well then, what's everyone doing for Christmas?

[quote] Trashy? Really? This from the nation that sent us a bit part actress with plastic teeth, a bad nose job and the most extraordinary sense of greedy entitlement we’ve ever seen.

Don't blame America for that. Blame southern California

Does Netflix have additional “programs”planned for them? Will there be books? Perhaps Harry will write about his “special” connection to Africa. I can imagine Harry writing some slop about his “special” relationship with the queen. A remembrance photo book or something. Would anybody want to read about these things?

Apparently it only was big for Netflix on the first day, and immediately after it sunk much further down in the ratings than other cable shows that do well.

It ain't got no legs beyond the first day of the episodes dump. That's not good for Netflix. It has terrible word of mouth.

This is what someone wrote on Twatter:

EXCLUSIVE! PR people are doing PR stuff to show some project in the best possible light! Coming next: rain. Are the rumors about rain getting things wet true?

Curiosity and hate watching doesn’t make it a “hit.”

I wonder what they are going to do for an encore. You can only whine and complain for so long.

I wish people wouldn't make death threats against them, as referenced in the Forbes article. They're hideous people, but not deserving of being assassinated or threatened with that. They're both lacking in self-awareness and self-censure, and a more moderate comeuppance would be better.

If anyone is aiming to get by their security, I hope they go with a good old-fashioned cream pie to the face. It was very disappointing that a cream pie to Rupert Murdoch's face was thwarted by his then-wife Wendy Deng. Hopefully the plotters will try again.

Lilibet appears in Ep 6. Blonde red hair and bright blue eyes. Harry says she looks like Diana. Poor Kate got three swamp trolls with brown eyes.

How is 81.55m viewers in the first four days a flop? Dumb Klan whores.

R62, no one made DEATH THREATS in the Rotten Tomatoes comment section. That Forbes author was catastrophizong. The only thing that could be remotely construed that was was a comment that said something about them being tied to train tracks and a train barreling towards them. It was an analogy, not a plan for them to be hit by a train. It wasn’t even a wish.

MARY!

They cashed-in while the cashing-in is good.

I don't begrudge them that.

Any notion, however, that the Sussexes occupy an exalted position over, say, Mama June and that poor, pitiful, exploited Honey-Boo-Boo, can be dismissed out-of-hand.

As distasteful as the Honey Boo-Boo program was, at least they had no pretense about who and what they were.

Otoh, the Sussexes don't know whether to scratch their watch or wind their ass.

At some level, even they must know that their bargaining chips that produced cash cows, those being: 1. Royal in Adverse Position to Royal Family (a tale older than anything Shakespeare wrote) and 2. Being Pre-Middle-Age (But the Clock is Ticking Fast) are quickly, are relentlessly diminishing.

As others here have pointed asked, where now?

Speaking of Mama June, if they become financially desperate enough, they' might have to follow in her footsteps and commodify their children even more than they're doing now.

As others here have asked^

[quote]Am I the only one who is wondering how the hell we got so many Meghan Markle Hater Trolls who don't even know how to spell the name "Meghan"? It's very weird.

Guessing it's the same group of flying monkeys trolling the Rotten Tomatoes website?

R64, first of all, the viewing figures do not refer to 81.55 million individual viewers but to 81.55 million hours watched. There are 6 episodes lasting an hour. The show was in the Top 10 in 85 countries and I think only came top in the UK. That's good, but it's not brilliant and is typical for "big" Netflix shows. In the US, it reached 2nd place. According to the Guardian, more than 28m households globally watched at least part of the series.

Second, especially in the UK where it came top, I think this is more a case of watching to laugh at them, not with them.

[quote]If they wanted to be left alone by the press, they should have just raped underage girls.

Sigh. Which, for the fourteenth time, nobody did. The girl was past the age of consent in Britain (and in New York), and even she claims she was trafficked, rather than that Andrew specifically raped her. What he did was bad in a whole wealth of ways, but not illegal.

And now, back to the H&M Show.

Those viewing figures are blown up like Fat Markle's derriere.

R69- while your attempts to model critical thinking skills for the Meghan slit-lickers is admirable, I'm afraid your efforts are in vain with the feeble minded.

Well R38, if they don't need Charles, William or Catherine then why do they keep whining about them? They haven't achieved anything noteworthy on their own. Everything they say and do always includes the other Royals, because without them, Harry and Meghan are dull, dull,dull and nobody would give a damn. They've taken riding other people's coattails to a new level. They even named their Daughter after the Queen's nickname. I'm not a big fan of the other Royals either, but H&M have always been desperate for attention and it really shows.

All Harry and Meghan can do is bitch about their relatives, their in-laws. That's all they've got. They're like disgruntled teenagers.

Good for them.

[quote]They're like disgruntled teenagers.

Aka Dataloungers.

I checked out the reviews on Rottentomatoes. Garbus won't be getting any prestige work off this little soap opera.

Yeah R72 as if the royal asslickers and klannies are great thinkers with critical minds. Oy! Pot meet kettle.

45% critics on RT. 12% normal human beings.

They suck.

[quote] Speaking of Mama June, if they become financially desperate enough, they' might have to follow in her footsteps and commodify their children even more than they're doing now.

Hello, everybody! My name is Lilibet. What's yours?

But all us kids at school call her Elliephant.

Harry and Meghan are shaking the hornets nest.

And it is a good thing.

[quote] But all us kids at school call her Elliephant.

You can always count on the William and Kate fans to attack little children.

So brave, R81.

Indeed r82, they are in for a massive stinging of their own making.

In Meghan's case, those hornets have got plenty of space to sting.

R83, you mean like making Charlotte cry? That kind of attack? Eat it, fool. You'll always be outskated here.

I thought Lilibet was the spit of her Aunt Samantha from the picture this past summer. Does she not resemble her anymore?

It isn't picking on kids to observe the maternal side of the family isn't exactly an oil painting when it comes to looks.

Have they disclosed what's wrong with Archie in this series?

R89, Archie's parents are what's wrong with him.

I haven’t watched, just read the headlines. I truly have no vested interested in any of them. Some of what they said seems obvious. I think much of British press covers up a lot for the BRF, Harry included. The BRF gives them stories as well. William married a woman that would fit the mold and do as told. The formality behind closed doors is surprising. I also think being a spare in that family must be a mind fuck. However, other stuff mentioned is unbelievable. Meghan didn’t know the protocols like bowing, walk abouts etc? Come the fuck on. I’m in that age range and we were bombarded with Diana and BRF from childhood. If Meghan was like 25 I could maybe believe the naïveté. Americans aren’t all huggers either. If someone hugged me that I just met I would not like it.

All they do is bitch and complain about trivial things. Their temporary housing was too small? First world problems. Meghan thought she was going to be Diana part 2. Therein lies the biggest problem. Meghan wants to be global superstar by any means necessary. I saw that scene where they both got gitty that Beyoncé texted her. I mean really, not a good look. Because they are delusional, they went about things in a totally wrong way. If they stayed they would have been more popular with the younger crowd than W&K. If they wanted to leave, which is fine, they should’ve taken another route for money and relevancy. This is self serving and really one note. These two aren’t the pioneers they are trying to make themselves out to be. Meghan, you aren’t Rosa Parks and didn’t cure cancer! Why they gave Oprah that interview if they had this series in the works is beyond me.

A quote by one of the commenters to Piers Morgan's SCATHING review of this in the NYPost today: "Meghan does come off as a shameless "made in the USA" greed pixie." Greed pixie. Nice.

[quote] Piers Morgan's SCATHING review

Piers Morgan gave a SCATHING review???

Oh, no!!!! What a shocker!!!!!

I'm sure Meghan gives..... oh yeah, ZERO fucks.

(She ghosted him and he's still fuming about it!!)

"a woman who would fit the mould" thereby excluding aging American divorcees cf. Wallis Simpson and Meghan Markle

The great, scathing Hilary Rose in The Times:

"It is with hearts full of joy that we reach the last three episodes of the H&M show. The couple recently told us that they were advocates for healing, so this week they prised open the festering wound that is their relationship with the royals, rubbed it liberally with salt and ran cackling back to Montecito to count the cash. Let’s take it from the top, for the 4,000th and hopefully last time.

We learn that Meghan is bringing “honesty and humanity to those spaces”, which is interesting, and then there’s more Diana, and H&M, and cheering crowds and booing Twitter trolls and Meghan weeping prettily and without shedding a tear or ruining her make-up about the injustice of it all. Do you have any idea how low the ceilings were at that cottage? Or how disbelieving poor Oprah was when she came to tea, and witnessed their squalid living conditions?

Meghan confirms that there is no connection between Harry having lots of friends before he met her and none after, apart from someone called Nicky, who declines to give his surname and probably wasn’t invited to the wedding on account of it not being Clooney. I lost consciousness when Harry started talking about avocados, which Meghan confirmed are a fruit, and when I came round it had something to do with Kate wearing a one-shouldered ball gown. Harry accuses his brother of dark behaviour, and Meghan complains that she wasn’t even allowed to text a photo to her friends, which is up there with her telling Oprah she had her passport taken away on arrival and only managed to take something like 400 foreign holidays in ten minutes. Does that sound true? It does? That’s good enough for them.

They claim to love the peace and quiet they found in Canada after Megxit, which certainly chimes with everything they’ve said and done since, and Harry asks Meghan if she’s filming him as he jumps into the sea and duh, Harry, yes, she’s filming, otherwise what’s the point? And on and on through trolls, and privacy lawyers, and Grio, which might be a publication, or a Twitter handle, or a town crier, saying royal pundits amplify hate, and if Grio says it then it must be true.

H&M complain furiously that nobody wanted Meghan at the Sandringham Summit, and for once, I share her pain and fury. How was she supposed to record a private meeting for public consumption and personal gain if they wouldn’t even let her through the door? A lawyer adds: “Not that she would have done that and to suggest otherwise is untrue and grossly defamatory.” Either way, the last few years have been so stressful that only an appointment with a guided meditation instructor could help. “Your work is not to prove your goodness,” she tells them, and having watched six hours of their work, I can confirm that it has not. Meghan talks about the sacrifices she made for this country and wistful music plays. Sentence of the series goes to Harry, who credits “another amazing friend who we’ve never met”, and in London, the Sussex Survivors’ Club wonder if never meeting H&M was perhaps the best, indeed only, way to be their friend."

What was interesting about seeing the home videos and clips is that Meghan really is very skilled at curating a relatable and pleasant social media image. If she'd been allowed to do Sussex Royal her way from the beginning, without any palace press, she really might have been beloved. The pic of her holding a pitchfork behind Nottingham Cottage, the little dance inside the doorway, the chickens, the pink birthday cake for Lili. All very adorable and fun snapshots. THAT right there is the image Meghan wanted to project, maintain, and control. Because she's good at that. She's practiced it and refined it and knows what to do to get likes and follows.

You actually would think she'd be good at being a Royal just on that alone, because that surface image is precisely the BRF's thing. Kate hanging ornaments on a tree. Paddington Bear clips. Little Instagram vignettes of the gardens. But it's when Meghan opens her mouth and has to do meet and greets that it all goes downhill, because she can't hide behind filters and staging and surface aesthetics. There's nothing else there. It's all projection. It's why she can't quit sharing her life through consumable content. It's all she's worked on. It's all she has.

I don't know. It's fascinating. She spent so much time learning how to project a wonderful self that she never actually built a self. Who is Meghan when no one is watching?

[quote] Who is Meghan when no one is watching?

Well, she sucks a mean cock.

Oh, and she lets me give her anal too.

So there's that.

[quote]Sigh. Which, for the fourteenth time, nobody did. The girl was past the age of consent in Britain (and in New York), and even she claims she was trafficked, rather than that Andrew specifically raped her. What he did was bad in a whole wealth of ways, but not illegal.

Sigh. Pedo apologists are so tiresome.

What part of "fucked underage girls" is unclear to you?

Actually, what NF did was count as a watcher anyone who tuned in for at least two minutes.

But counting actual, in America the viewership was one million, and 2 4 in in the UK.

The problem for the Harkles is that their real market is America, they don't give fuck all about Singapore or South America.

Those stats mean that America still isn't that into them, the higher viewership in the UK shows them the market that cares more about the royal shit, but the programme only antagonised further the only market that cares. Their ratings took a further five after the first installment in Britain.

They can't hold America with this shit, and they lost Britain with it.

Everything they do is so arse backwards it's a wonder Harry can find the nearest of their 16 loos in the middle of the night and doesn't fall into the pool, instead.

Every one who hates Harry and Meghan needs to watch this series. Watch it twice if you really hate it. Call some friends to live stream it and live comment here.

^^took a dive

R100 No, we don't.

But nice try doing your bit to get them higher viewer stats.

One journalist pointed out it was absolute nonsense to call their reality show a documentary. A documentary shouldn't be biased but present objective truth - with receipts - not the Star's personal truth. The whole thing is a joke.

Let's watch the Harry and Meghan shitshow on some half-legal streaming service, then make fun of R100.

[quote] But counting actual, in America the viewership was one million, and 2 4 in in the UK. The problem for the Harkles is that their real market is America, they don't give fuck all about Singapore or South America. Those stats mean that America still isn't that into them, the higher viewership in the UK shows them the market that cares more about the royal shit, but the programme only antagonised further the only market that cares. Their ratings took a further five after the first installment in Britain. They can't hold America with this shit, and they lost Britain with it.

That’s all the viewership they had? The million confirms what I’ve been saying all along, America is not into the Royals like that. The media, yes. Public, no. Even the 2.4 for the UK is kind of low. Still, there is more interest there. If Meghan wanted stardom vis the Royal family, America was not the place to find it.

I think Meghan and Harry should move to Botswana. Maybe Meghan can get a job as a typist in the No. 1 Ladies Detective Agency and Harry can take rich American dentists on safaris to shoot giraffes.

Reminds me when somebody asked Harry about his then girlfriend Chelsy Davy, he told the person "she's from Zimbabwe but she isn't black or anything".

R99’s numbers are way off. 28 million households have watched. I haven’t seen a breakdown per country anywhere.

Mary & Meghan have worn out their last welcome

Netflix evidently "counts" watching this reality show ripoff for even two minutes as a "watch" but most people tune it out very quickly. Who wants to see a former royal and cheap D-lister for SIX HOURS of whining and lying? Bleah.

Also, how many sets of new teefs is that fat Markle bitch going to have? Just pick one set and stick with it.

[QUOTE]"she's from Zimbabwe but she isn't black or anything".

Speaking of "or anything," funnily enough Harry did not address the instances he used "Paki" to describe a fellow squad mate and another "raghead," both reported in the press at the time. And there are receipts because Harry was videotaping at his camp when he came across the Pakistani soldier while he slept when he used the epithet. Profuse apologies were offered by the Palace when the instances came to light.

Oh, well!

Fem Gay Omid Scobie is one of their "confidantes". He is 41 and trying to pull off the twink look. Bad fake teeth and that looks like a wig.

Isn’t it interesting that he wasn’t invited to take part in the documentary, though! Bet that fucked him off.

R111 His usefulness has faded. Like all good users, Harry and Megan "forgot" they ever knew him.

R110 R111 like all bad Fag Hags, Megham dropped the Fag when the baby came along and the marriage was solid. They all do it.

Does Scobie wear make-up? Or is he just naturally peculiar looking?

It got a full segment on Morning Joe, with Joe himself chiming in as a watch.

[quote]Does Scobie wear make-up? Or is he just naturally peculiar looking?

He looks like an alien creature from outer space. I hope the mothership calls him home soon.

I always wonder if that's what Rachel Maddow looks like in the morning without make up.

You want numbers? Here's numbers.

Haven't seen it. Don't care about any of the boring, weird, inbred family and I wish Muriel would start deleting threads on any of them. William and whatsherface are as boring as white bread but so are Harry and his wife. Harry got the better looks though. The older one looks like a Qtip.

[quote] Megham dropped the Fag when the baby came along and the marriage was solid. They all do it.

FYI, all parents drop everyone who isn't a fellow parent when they have young children, and they stay that way till the kids are teenagers, come back briefly and then regress again when they become grandparents. It's the bane of single friends and DINKS the world over. You're not special.

Agreed, R96. To be an influencer is her only talent. Her problem is that she reeled in Harry, at least partly, with the humanitarian shtick, and must continue with that. I wonder how he squares showing so many of their (supposed) candids and pics of their kids with his desire not to raise his kids in the fame fishbowl.

Meghan is a good actress.

She gave a solid performance on Suits.

Meghan is never going away. She wanted the fame and good or bad she'll never let it go. Even if she divorces Harry and winds up on QVC, she will constantly be angling for interviews and talk show spots and telling her truth. There is no end here.

I'm on the last episode. The entire problem is the tabloids and all the people that read them and believe them. All these royals are just people, no better or worse than the rest of us. The readers of the tabloids just give fuel to everything. If they stopped and listened to both sides of the story from the people that are being talked about they might realize all the lies told about them. Harry, William, Meghan, Kate aren't the problem, it's the people of the UK that fall for all this crap.

I don’t know which poster is more embarrassing R119 “William and whatsherface” pretending to forget Kate’s name or R120 the Frau who thinks we all want to be friends with stinkfish, that post wasn’t a regret, cunt, it’s a warning to not be best friends with women.

Everyone talks about everyone else, and people who don’t realize that by their late 20s and still rail on about “talking shit” are infantile. This cunt is just pissed that she’s not universally loved. The paps didn’t kill Diana, a drunk chauffeur did, but Harry is on a mission to stick it to the press because he needs someone to blame. Meghan plays him on that childhood need. She’s a sociopath.

Oh R125 is upset I forgot the other one's name. Calm down, hon. Not everyone is as vested in these folks as you are.

R127 obviously you are, look where you’re at…

Talk about a lack of self-awareness.

R125, I'd guess the most embarrassing poster is the who uses stinkfish and cunt in a sentence or, worse, the same sentence. Have a well mannered day.

Point that back at yourself R128.

R129 are you able to piece a sentence together? Go to the mommy boards.

R130 ooooooooooooooooooo you got me ooooooooooo

Don't be childish R132. I'm merely asking you to reflect on why you loathe one couple yet worship another. All complete strangers.

I suspect you're a troll though.

R133 I do not worship or care about William and Kate, that’s you making assumptions. H&M are just annoying, why are you so adamant to constantly defend them?

So why all offended someone called whatsherface whatsherface.

I don't defend the others at all. I just don't understand the fascination or hate. You're making assumptions like grannies that not attacking is defending.

R135 I was not offended by you pretending to forget Kate’s name, more projection. Are you on your period? Are you okay…? You seem a little off.

Last time I checked annoying shouldn't generate that much hate or loathing either. That's a scary psycho trait.

Someone's on their period and it's not me.

You seem very off, little frau.

Anybody invoking why all the hate? and/or using the word grannies in a post can be instantly and rightly ignored.

With the bonus being ignored no doubt reflects their lived experience.

Cool. I’ll agree to disagree with you, as we’re now turning into the two Spider-Mans pointing at each other meme. I’m nuts, you’re nuts. Have a good day.

Bye now!

R140 is for R137 R138

[quote]28 million households have watched.

and just who might be auditing Netflix's 'self-reporting'

If you really hate Harry and Meghan, rewatch the docudrama again for small but salient facts and post them all over the internet.

Like, why did Diana leave ANYTHING to Wills?

Your insights are invaluable.

When in doubt, ask about questions of racism and safety.

These frauds should not be allowed to get away with that $100M from Netflix!

NEVAH!

Trump wasn't hated as a reality star real estate bufoon, then he became president and began an assualt on our national identity and politics.

Meghan wasn't hated as a D-List actress/influencer until she became a royal and began an assault on the national identity and cultural heritage of the UK.

It's not that fucking complicated. Both are arrogant, moronic, narcissists.

[QUOTE]Meghan wasn't hated as a D-List actress/influencer

Tell that to the crew working on the Reitman's commercial shoot.

do you just comment without actually watching the program? Tyler Perry sent a letter to Meghan and told her if she ever needed anything to just let him know, so she did.

I don't believe they did this program so people would turn on William and Kate but only to tell their side of the story. I'm sure it hurts Harry a lot to know his mother had to go thru all this crap alone with absolutely no one to talk to or help her which I also think is part of his story.

This isn't a game to see who is better but to point out all the wrongs with the way things are run. Unfortunately nothing will be done because everyone is so busy taking sides instead of wanting to try and improve the system..

[quote]I don't believe they did this program so people would turn on William and Kate but only to tell their side of the story.

Except their side of the story are almost all proven confabulations and lies, which in turn hurt the BRF; so don't tell me about about 'their side of the story' because it's a 'story' with a laughably transparent narrative.

Meghan: "We were actually married 3 days before the St. George's Chapel televised wedding"

Archbishop of Canterbury: "Uhm, no"

I watched it, I came away with the impression that they're all various flavors of asshole on both sides of the ocean.

I do believe that it really is not beneficial to the couple - for example, even jezebel.com thinks they need to shut up and theroot.com had one article that got no comments. Really only the psychos at celebitchy are all in on it.

[quote] Haven't seen it. Don't care about any of the boring, weird, inbred family and I wish Muriel would start deleting threads on any of them. William and whatsherface are as boring as white bread but so are Harry and his wife. Harry got the better looks though. The older one looks like a Qtip.

I love gossip, but this really is lame for the most part. Definitely nothing to get worked up over. They are all conniving behind the scenes and boring in from of them. The Sussex stuff was interesting for about 5 minutes. Give me Charles wanting to be a tampon any day. The UK media dishing on Kate and William would be way more interesting then this crap. Unless that happens, the American media has to stop covering this family so much though.

That poster chastising your post had me dying. Personally affronted because you called Kate whatshername. Then calling you the frau. Lol It’s like the CNN reporter covering the Queen’s funeral who called them the other two Royals and the fanatics wanted him canceled at once.

[quote] I'm sure it hurts Harry a lot to know his mother had to go thru all this crap alone with absolutely no one to talk to or help her which I also think is part of his story.

She talked to William about it.

Maybe Harry is resentful that she didn’t do that with him.

[QUOTE]Tyler Perry sent a letter to Meghan and told her if she ever needed anything to just let him know, so she did.

The "if you ever need anything, let me know" sounds like a typical wrap up of a business letter sent to a client. I've done it countless times in my professional life. Do you really think Perry wanted a lifetime attachment to them via godfather obligations?

It sounds like a classic "lend someone a hand and they take your arm" scenario.

BTW, do the Harkles have to declare their free rent at the mansion as a gift to the IRS and have to pay taxes on it?

^^ also, yes, I agree that he is still all torn up about his parents.

The thing is, when you are middle-aged, married and a parent yourself, you should understand a few things. As an adult, you find out that things aren’t so black and white, relationships aren’t always what they seem, no one knows what goes on in a marriage but the two people in it, etc.

He’s missing this mature and nuanced understanding. I thought he was in therapy!

Heh-heh. Harry's now gonna sue a whole slew of Brit papers claiming they defamed him. Harry should maybe stop reading the British press and rely on USA Today. What a dickhead.

Still want to know who audits Netflix's self-proclaimed number of viewers.

[quote] The "if you ever need anything, let me know" sounds like a typical wrap up of a business letter sent to a client. I've done it countless times in my professional life. Do you really think Perry wanted a lifetime attachment to them via godfather obligations?

Yes! I feel bad for Perry, people always say “just give me a call if you need anything” but it’s not meant to be taken so literally. But Meg doesn’t let that stop her, she calls him up and asks if they can live in his house! So Perry gets their whole entourage squatting on his property, abusing his staff.

[quote]She talked to William about it. Maybe Harry is resentful that she didn’t do that with him.

That would be like talking to a stump.

Diana also talked to her psychic and her loyal butler about all her problems, and doubtless to whoever her squeeze du jour was. She had three flatmates who were her friends before she married, and presumably she had friends at the child care centre: if she didn't still have any girlfriends to confide in 15 years later you'd have to ask yourself why. Like Meghan, she also complained regularly to the media about the media.

R55 is utterly CLUELESS as to the fact that over TWICE as many Belts (2.5 million) watched the first part compared to less than 1 million Americans. Don't forget our population dwarfs yours significantly, so a much larger percent of YOUR population watched. They have NEVER been popular here. It's YOUR press keeping them propped up. Always has been. Here, they are soundly ignored.

R159 while the UK press does write about them too mcu especially the DM, the US press wrote about the series in the Washington Post and the NY Times. The NY Times wrote several articles on the including reviews. What's interesting is most of their readership has a negative opinion of the Sussexes.

R159, Harry and Meghan are "American" not only because of the fact that they live in the US but because their whole shtick is rooted in American culture war tropes. Their intended audience is American. They are hardly addressing the British people. The whole basis of their narrative is how beastly everything was for them in the UK and how they've now "found freedom" in America. Their show is an American Netflix production.

>>The last three episodes saw the Duke and Duchess of Sussex make a series of bombshell claims against the royal family as cameras followed them during some of their most intimate moments, from Prince Philip’s death to family time with their children, Archie, 3, and Lilibet, 1.

Somebody please tell me that they didn't film and mine their "grief" over Philip's death? That would be staggeringly low, even for them.

Those are PAID placement articles. The comments speak to the reality.

That may be true r161 but the Americans are giving them a wide berth, compared to the British.

Prince Mary has no chill.

Say what you will about Lady C. but she was right about Doria being an instigator. Lady C. said long ago that Doria would get in Harry's ear and get him all riled up.

Why didn't Doria get on a plane and fly to pregnant, suicidal Markle?

R167, probably because the BRF took her passport because she wore too vibrant colors because everyone was jealous of her popularity.

I've never trusted Doris either r166. She has a very shady past and seems to be a huge grifter herself.

I think I've misses somethings.

I am rewatching from the beginning.

[quote]Say what you will about Lady C. but she was right about Doria being an instigator. Lady C. said long ago that Doria would get in Harry's ear and get him all riled up.

And a psychic will tell you "Someone important to you has the initial "R" or "You feel a loss no one knows about." It wasn't exactly inside scoop, though I commend Laddy Colon for her bravery in the face of potential libel.

R161, I don’t disagree, but they still hit out at the British press for being “racist”. They haven’t done that with the US press, because it’s been so fawning and positive.

Time will tell whether the tide will turn, here, but they seem to have some hefty media hitters on their side.

I imagine they think the press is "racist" because they mock her, and they're white writers. Here in the US, the huge surge in bloggers of color, editors of color, just a whole new slate of online voices of young people of color, have decided to be her standard bearer and hail her as some hero, representing all of them.

But they didn't really know her. Or him. And now we do.

I can't get enough of these two lovebirds.

They keep trying to sell us their same old list of complaints over and over and over again. Oprah! Archetypes! Their Reality Show! Harry's Book! Other assorted interviews and foolishness.

Americans despise losers and hate whiners. Keep it up Harkles, you're losing more ground ever single day you continue with this.

Andy Cohen must be chomping at the bit to sign Meghan up for Real Housewives. No Harry or kids necessary. That show is a hand to glove fit for her and I'm pretty sure ratings would skyrocket. It may only be a matter of money. Wouldn't she be the youngest housewife? What could Andy do to court her?

Another question is whether Meghan can tolerate being around other "successful" women or if she has a glimmer of insight to know it's a trap to exploit her NPD. Or she might think the show would give her broader exposure for America to see how wonderful and misunderstood she is. There's also the aim of creating a base to merch to. I see a QVC product line of natural, organic products in her future. In her febrile imagination she just might think she's a natural competitor and threat to Jessica Alba's little empire.

Jessica Alba is more likable than Markle.

If she lands on a Real Housewives show it will only be for one season or in the case of QVC, one showing of some product. She's too difficult to deal with and more trouble than she's worth.

R176, I couldn't believe she actually talked to Andy. Made her look desperate.

If she was willing to talk to Andy, why didn't she try to go on one of the standard late night talk shows? Andy's brand is so trashy and he has a small audience compared to traditional late night talk shows.

[QUOTE]Jessica Alba is more likable than Markle.

I'm sure Meghan doesn't think so. Remember, she's a narcissist.

Jessica Alba is not likable.

Ha, ok ladies. Jessica Alba didn't marry a Prince of the blood royal... let's not get ahead of herselves, ourselves. I mean, ourselves.

Harry and Megan..?.......More like Halfwit and Manly!!

R176 is as delusional as Markle.

Explain r184.

She doesn't sell. None of that would be feasible r185. Not in the U.S. at least.

She's certainly gaining notoriety and familiarity through the NF series and will get more through her husband's autobio and Anderson Cooper interview. Who the hell knew who Kyle Richards or Lisa Vanderpump were when she started out in RHOBH?

boo hoo!!!...My brother YELLED at me!!!...My 90 year old Granny didn't speak up!!....FUCK Harry and his man-Wife.

^when THEY started out

R186, she could definitely do what R176 laid out. The Real Housewives is the bottom of the barrel, of course she could get on that. I doubt she ever would want to though. I could definitely see her doing a reality show on E!. She really wants mega fame and that’s where you get it these days.

Just by status, she could get on QVC too.

^when THEY started out

[QUOTE]If she was willing to talk to Andy, why didn't she try to go on one of the standard late night talk shows?

Andy came on her podcast and behaved like a good guest. He was on her turf. The problem with late night appearances is that a guest needs to be spontaneous and roll with the punches. Meghan can't seem to function unless there's a script to stick to and, heaven forbid if she's asked a difficult question or the host makes fun of her. She has no sense of humor. Has she put herself in a circumstance like this before?

We've discussed her sole late night appearance on Craig Ferguson's show during her tenure on Suits. Uncomfortable doesn't begin to cover it. That's where the cringe-worthy (paraphrasing) "My body is smooth like a dolphin all over." Ferguson was nonplussed.

She tried to do the QVC hustle a couple of times already. She failed. She was hunting for a Brit to latch onto so that she could become a "WAG" on reality tv over there.

C-lister, thy name is Rachel Ragland.

I heard they are working on a cartoon based on their lives. Halfwit and Manly!! The story of a feminine man who finds his masculine soulmate.

Harry looks like one of those creepy guys who lets their wives use a dildo on him.

R193 when did she try to do the QVC hustle? Before Dimbo?

If she went to QVC she would demand any other attractive celebrities (i.e. CZJ) be dumped as she wouldn't want the competition.

She would spin it that the other celebrities were jealous of how much better she did her presentations than they did.

Her efforts to modernize QVC will fall flat as they've been doing this for decades and know what works. She will flee to HSN and fail there also.

I didn't know CZJ is on QVC. That's quite a diminishment in status.

She's had notoriety for years now. Literally everyone is sick of her. It's a global revulsion.

I still can't believe that Dimbo said Markle was better at doing the job than royals born to the position. It's one thing to be deluded enough to think something like that, but to come out and say it is absolutely crackers.

What the Harkles also don't get is that it is about being of service, not winning a competition.

Thay snapped back at HMTQ by putting words on their website to the effect of, service is universal. Everybody can live a life of service.

But what service have they offered? Spending a fortune on private jets, in particular to Uvalde to offer sandwiches to traumatised people to improve Markle's PR in the wake of a terrible tragedy? Speeches to near-empty rooms at the UN? Showing off backfat, tan lines and a non-existent chest by wearing a gala gown at an event honouring people who have suffered for making a true sacrifice? Dimbo says he is traumatised by camera flashes (MARY!) but he just loved being on-stage at that Covid event where Markle looked like a walking fridge. He was eating up being the centre of attention.

And his comments about freedom of speech - after admitting he didn't understand the US constitution - were kind of scary. Didn't Diana say at least once that he was as thick as a plank?

And not singing along to God Save the King at the funeral of HMTQ was outrageously rude. If they pull that shit at the coronation, even more people will hate them.

William has sacrificed his life for the crown. Harry is trying to publicly destroy it.

There's no mending that relationship.

A true life partner doesn't allow their love to ruin relationships. To ruin a family. And they aren't complicit in it, and they don't encourage it.

Destruction isn't love.

Service also has to be focused and specific, r200. There's no such thing as a floating public servant not attached to any public institution.

R202, er ah, that's just your, ah, opinion thah. Chowdah head.

The Duke and Duchess of Whining.

Princess Harry and Manly Markel.

R196, yes it was before the Royal hustle.

I think it was during Suits when she was desperately trying to make herself into more than just a sixth on the call list C-lister. Of course she failed, just as she fails at everything she tries.

Harry is clearly the bottom in that relationship. Don't forget, Harry inherited half of Dianas millions. Not exactly the paupers they claim to be.

As unbearable as she is now, imagine what she was like during Suits, trying so hard to parlay a D list role into a lifelong grift: flying over to London to suck up to Lizzie Cundy and Piers Morgan. Or before that when the teeny parts she got were few and far between and the best she could get in any given year was BJ girl on 90210 or briefly a FedEx worker in a movie featuring actual stars. She must have been full-on toxic. And she was known to be the first to arrive/last to leave at Brett Ratner's parties. It must have killed her to put all that time in and have so little to show from it.

Ditching all her family (except Doria) and inviting celebrities she didn't know to her wedding really showed her arse. Apart from Reese, I wonder who else turned down an invite?

Well, she absolutely killed it in the marriage department- that's no lie. To have her sights set on WAG, and end up a Princess is phenomenal!

She just clearly didn't understand, as most golddiggers rarely do, that Harry was meeting her, and belongs at, her c-list level- he wasn't jumping her up to the aristocracy with just a title. That took a level of work and education of which she evidently wasn't capable.

Her ego and insistence on being the centre of attention stopped her understanding what she had and what was required, r209. That was a sweet gig she landed and she'd been grifting so long she had to over-reach. Better she had realised that she was in the best position she'd ever be in. Whining on Oprah, podcasts and Netflix...she's definitely not A-list. Michelle Obama offered sound advice to the Harkles after the CBS Oprah special. They were foolish not to follow it.

Too busy letting Doria put the race baiting ideas in her head instead.

What you handful of fat cows don't get is she she actually doesn't need mega-fame. She has it and you gladly give her more by constantly talking about her.

We're talking about her because of her show, r212. Or would you prefer that her Netflix show disappeared into oblivion?

Oh, no, there's another one coming from the people who insist on calling themselves the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.

I don't understand Tyler Perry getting involved with these grifters.? Honestly are you this desperate for friends? The got on a private plane and left England with pockets filled with Diana Money. They didn't exactly escape from Rwanda with only the clothes on their backs.

Speaking of queens (Harry) and Suits = Anyone ever noticed the actor who played Megans boyfriend on Suits is blatantly gay? Married and closeted and the annoying wife seems like the "don't care" type.. Go watch him off script. Lisp for days. His name is Patrick Adams. Gay.

Because, even though H&M attacking royalty, r215, Perry thinks that they're still royalty and he wants to be close to that. Americans don't understand what royalty means in the modern world. They think it's about fame and celebrity and some old aristocracy thing and Harry is a prince, oh wow. They don't understand the concept of a constitutional monarchy and its role as a state institution. That's why Americans are more excited about the titles of Duke and Duchess of Sussex than we Britons are. People like Tyler Perry think there's something to be gained by associating with Harry and Meghan because they're a Duke and Duchess and that therefore puts them closer to power and glory. They don't understand that siding with Harry and Meghan is severing them from the actual monarchy.

Then why did more than twice as many Brits watch the Netflix series then? R217

Hate-watching, r18.

Are you really that stupid, r218?

R14 "Ikarus" is a fantastic documentary. Do watch.

r14 Abducted In Plain Sight, that documentary is crazy entertaining.

R63 I'm blonde and blue-eyed but you're a racist. What is wrong with brown eyes?

R144 We saw through it the first you posted it.

They lost viewers continually as the series progressed.

Sounds like you are r220. The Americans watching were majority hate watching too dumbass.

D.M. is headlining that Beatrice gave the gruesome twosome permission to film themselves having at the Queen's private Welsh cottage on Windsor. I doubt Beatrice has the authority to give anyone permission to do anything involving the Queen. Apparently bug-eyed Beatrice is no different than huge Euge when it comes to the overseas pair and is probably also being kept at arm's length by Charles and William.

^^^^"filmed themselves having TEA at the Queen's private Welsh cottage...

I don’t really get why they keep rehashing the same complaints.

Wouldn’t they be better off launching some new initiatives / images while they have the spotlight?

Soon they won’t have it any more.

Huge Euge looks pregnant. She could have taken a little bit of attention away from the Harkles current media blitz by announcing it but apparently has chosen to allow them to have all the attention.... She's obviously far enough along for it not to be premature to announce.

R225, the stupidity is on the part of the one who does not understand why Brits watched this shit. And it wasn't out of admiration for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.

Beatrice is now a Counsellor of State, r226, and I doubt she gave "permission" for them to trash Charles and William. As even the DM says, "it is unclear whether she was aware of the exact nature of what was being filmed."

I haven't seen their shitty show, but from what I understand no filming was even done, instead photographs are shown of them inside the Wendy House. These photographs were probably taken before they announced three years ago that they were "stepping back" as since then they have only been in the UK together on three occasions, all very brief visits, and it's unlikely they managed to slip a joyful trip to the Wendy House in. Even if they did, it's doubtful that Beatrice (who does not actually control who enters the Wendy House) knew what they were going to do with any photographs taken.

That fantastic Wendy House is yet another wonderful thing that Archie and Lilbet are going to miss out on as they grow up.

R226 It isn't "anything" to do with the Queen. Bea was given the stewardship of The Little House and oversaw its renovations. She WAS basically in charge of everything about it.

And the photos were likely taken well before the shit hit the fan. Bea is seriously thick and I'll l grant it now looks like a not too savvy move, but that's all it means.

You haven't seen her palling around or costing up to them since, like her far bitchier sister.

I'm sure she got a private talking to from Uncle Charles.

^*cosying (not costing)

Jesus, Euge is either 8 months along or has a serious problem with food.

I can't imagine why they wouldn't have announced it. It's not as it's important enough to overshadow anything.

She looks like a tugboat.

Word is now that the Harkles were "disappointed" in the documentary in tod final form because (wait for it) . . . It made them look like "victims" and they really wanted it to focus on their causes and to "move on".

Given that they and Netflix knew perfectly well that unless it was full of the vitriol the Sussexes have made themselves famous for, no one would watch it . . .

And that after it dropped they were again threatening the BRF demanding a "summit" with an apology, their backpedaling is hilarious.

Next under the bus: Liz Garbus.

Huge Eug's mother blew up the same way when she got pregnant... but if as R229 posits she's not far enough along to announce, she'll be a Cunard liner by the time they call the midwife.

Link to disappointed please? I'd love to see their actual words. What a pair. And when I say what a pair I mean own-goal scoring morons without a scrap of brain who'd be comedic if they weren't causing such pointless disruption as poster children for the aimless, alienating age in which we live.

Here you go.

Unlike her younger cow-size sister, Bea is a good soul, albeit a rather naive one sometimes. I can totally see Harry and Meghan deceiving her, doing stuff behind her back.

Will you just look at that rictus grin at r238 !

There's some picture of la Markle and her minion that's being used to publicize her reality TV show. They're walking - evidently in England given the foliage - with their dog in the countryside. And kissing passionately so a photographer can take a picture of them from the back. Do they always walk around with a photographer to record their memorable pseudo-intimate moments? Will we be getting a sex tape next?

It's beyond bizarre that Harry complained about feeling like he's in the Truman Show when he now IS in the Truman Show.

So if true R238, they have found yet one more way to play the victims.

Unbelievable.

𝐕𝐀𝐑𝐈𝐄𝐓𝐘 𝐬𝐚𝐲𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐢𝐫 𝐚𝐜𝐭 𝐢𝐬 𝐰𝐨𝐫𝐧 𝐨𝐮𝐭

Just when the Duke and Duchess of Sussex would seem to be proving their enduring popularity, it’s the very thing any media company in business with them should be questioning.

That’s because some skepticism is warranted regarding whether they’ve finally gone to the well one too many times with their oft-repeated tale of mistreatment at the hands of England’s royal family.

While the success of their Netflix docuseries demonstrates that the audience’s curiosity wasn’t sated by last year’s interview with Oprah Winfrey, how much more meat could possibly be left on this bone, especially once Harry’s own take, “Spare,” arrives in print?

There can only be so many revelations left to share with the public now that the couple have exiled themselves away from their fractious coexistence with the monarchy. 𝑮𝒊𝒗𝒆𝒏 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒚’𝒗𝒆 𝒃𝒆𝒂𝒕𝒆𝒏 𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒔 𝒉𝒐𝒓𝒔𝒆 𝒕𝒐 𝒅𝒆𝒂𝒕𝒉, 𝒑𝒆𝒓𝒉𝒂𝒑𝒔 𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒔 𝒐𝒏𝒆-𝒕𝒓𝒊𝒄𝒌 𝒑𝒐𝒏𝒚 𝒊𝒔 𝒅𝒖𝒆 𝒇𝒐𝒓 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒈𝒍𝒖𝒆 𝒇𝒂𝒄𝒕𝒐𝒓𝒚.

Of course, Harry and Meghan would have you believe they are about so much more than their own story. The brand they believe they are building through their media company, Archewell Productions, is meant to be about all the social causes and charities they support.

Their game plan has always been, Come for the sob story, stay for the high-minded uplift. But that’s a shaky strategy for keeping an audience around that probably doesn’t care about anything either of them has to say that isn’t royal gossip.

Don’t be surprised once “Spare” hits shelves that a backlash already starting to grow really accelerates as the couple’s strategically timed disclosures start to come across too carefully choreographed. It’s not unlike the criticism elicited by many journalists who have gone on to write books about the White House, complete with previously untold bombshell revelations. If your reporting is so important, why did you wait so long to disclose what should have been shared with the public years before?

It’s not that Harry and Meghan don’t have a story worth telling; the prejudice they faced from the royal family and the British press was awful. But telling the story ad nauseam has diminishing returns.

At some point, even the dimmest of minds among their fans is going to tire of their “Oh, woe is us” routine as they play the victim card again and again. That’s a tone-deaf message to be sending from the remove of their posh Montecito estate at a time of economic insecurity around the world.

At some point soon, Harry and Meghan need to pivot to something beyond retelling their old plight over and over. It’s not as if they’re going to have new stories to tell of their days in the U.K. now that they’ve been largely cut off from the monarchy.

Like a burlesque act, each story Harry and Meghan tell about their own lives is akin to an article of clothing they peel off their bodies at staggered intervals. It makes for a good show while it lasts, but eventually they’re going to be left naked.

Variety will cause much upset around Casa Prefabricado. The industry bible tells the industry she's dull.

>>It’s not that Harry and Meghan don’t have a story worth telling; the prejudice they faced from the royal family and the British press was awful. But telling the story ad nauseam has diminishing returns.

What story worth telling? What prejudice? Make your presence known with Dimwit writing a letter declaring your victimhood, buy 75K gowns, spend GBP1.2M on outfits for around 70 occasions, take constant holidays via private jet, treat your family of origin like crap, bully your staff, famewhore your guts out...expect the UK press to let everyone know. Couldn't even resist showing a designer rug in her reality show trailer, probably merching. What planet is she on?

Meg said it wasn't her job to "coddle" the Palace staff she bullied.

Likewise, it isn't KC and William's job to "coddle" her!

[quote] [bold]What story worth telling? What prejudice? Make your presence known with Dimwit writing a letter declaring your victimhood, buy 75K gowns, spend GBP1.2M on outfits for around 70 occasions, take constant holidays via private jet, treat your family of origin like crap, bully your staff, famewhore your guts out...expect the UK press to let everyone know. Couldn't even resist showing a designer rug in her reality show trailer, probably merching. What planet is she on?[/bold]

This distills the essence of the gruesome twosome. And after the latest Netflix Whinathon Reality Show, it appears that their House of Cards, er grievances, is being dismantled by formerly fawning supporters.

They are now akin to the near naked emperors who have wanted to cosplay as royals: dictating to the populace rules that they, themselves refuse to live by (flaunting their supposed wealth during global economic difficulties, traveling on private planes whilst badgering the little people about climate change, spewing lies and fabrications, while simultaneously demanding the internet and press are policed for critiques of their behaviour, preaching “kindness” whilst being vengeful and slanderous, etc. etc.)

They are beyond repugnant and repulsive.

Calling them ponies who are due for the glue factory sounds like a death threat…

Someone had better arrest that Variety writer for making threats to the royal family. Bouzy, get on it.

[quote]It’s not that Harry and Meghan don’t have a story worth telling; the prejudice they faced from the royal family and the British press was awful.

What an appalling and delusional statement to be made by Variety.

Receipts please! Right now will be fine, I'll wait.

I’m sick of this topic, but my friend just brought up the documentary. She is not at all interested in the Royals, so I was shocked she watched it. I think she just watches whatever is big on Netflix. Anyway, she had a lot of sympathy for Meghan and Harry and said that William seems like a dick and she thinks the family is racist. She’s a white middle lass American and politically conservative. So, I think for those who didn’t follow this saga closely, M&H came off well.

Why the fuck do I keep having to re-block you lunatics?

It's like every fat racist cow in the UK posts here over and over and over and over and over, on multiple sockpuppet accounts.

Fucking hell.

R251 I do believe the obese homophobic cows trolling the DL are Kweens from Lipstick Alley.

Sure r250. Suuuure.

I believe R250. A butch lesbian I know watched it and told me she was rooting for their love story. She was shocked by my cynical take. My older sister, who's not into gossip and is usually very dismissive of celebs, said, "They seem okay. I don't understand why people don't like them."

It's clear-eyed cynics vs people susceptible to dramatic piano music, Instagram pics of love and babies, and against-the-odds escapes from villainy and racism.

"She’s a white middle lass American" - Why should the British royals care about Americans? Celebs like Harry and Meghan aim at the US market, so your friend can keep them. We in Britain don't want them. It's a fair deal I think.

R251 These lunatics aren't British. No Brit has ever used the term 'BRF' or 'trashy' or 'Her Royal Majesty' or any of the things these middle-aged American women always get wrong. There are a few who pretend to be British, like the maniac who calls everyone 'Pet', but the majority of actual British people in these threads are agog at the obsession.

This is a “both things can be true” situation.

I think it’s quite likely “the Firm” and the family treated Markle badly. It seems they see it almost as a rite of passage, at least for women marrying in.

And there seems to have been quite a culture clash and a social class issue. Markle had some modest success as an actor, but fundamentally she’d had a pretty chaotic and grimy life until she met Harry. At least she went to college— only to complete a joke major.

Markle herself seems obnoxious and ill-mannered. I’d have a lot more sympathy for her if she weren’t trying to constantly merch her bad experiences.

[quote]I think it’s quite likely “the Firm” and the family treated Markle badly.

This, is utter bullshit.

Sorry to have to be the one that has to expose you to reality.

Oh, well— if you say so.

[quote]I think it’s quite likely “the Firm” and the family treated Markle badly.

Oh, well— if you say so.

and not just what the two mentally ill Montecitans are braying about to all and sundry.

Receipts please, right now will be fine, I'll wait.

I think it's quite likely, and evident, that The Firm bent over backwards to welcome, accommodate and appease her.

But when she started biting, they recoiled in fear and bewilderment as most people would.

That's what some damaged people do even when they are on the receiving end of kindness, they bite.

Harry is the same way, biting the hand that fed him.

She wasn't treated badly by the Palace. She was treated in accordance with her relative lack of importance. She remained 6th on the Call Sheet. Still surprising to me that a divorcee had the chutzpah to demand a royal wedding. When Princess Anne and Prince Charles remarried, they did it appropriately - Princess Anne at the local Church of Scotland near Balmoral, Charles at a registry office. I'm surprised the Archibishop was even willing to officiate at the marriage of a divorcee.

R253, you’re a stupid idiot and I’m really sick of posters like you who think the world is their echo chamber. Just because you think one way doesn’t mean other people who watched it will feel the same. Unlike you, most people don’t spend their lives obsessively following the Royal family. What I posted is 100% truth. I don’t care enough to lie about it.

R263 "you're a stupid idiot"... is that you my 11 year older sister????

r262 - Meghan's marriage to Trevor wasn't officiated in the CoE. Maybe that was a loophole? Divorced Catholics with a first marriage officiated outside the church either civilly or by another religion get a marriage "Mulligan" and can get married in a RC church. Similar concept?

They might have got married in church, nevertheless it was hypocritical: Meghan wearing a virginal white dress. Even the Queen remarked on the fact Meghan wore white.

Oh dearie me. Harry and Meghan's reality TV show is now ranked 6th most popular on Netflix. Oops.

No one treated her BADLY. They probably did things like smirk when she was half turned away or didn’t grin back at her and maybe she heard laughter after she left the room.

I don’t doubt that she received a cool reception, but I do doubt that anyone was ever RUDE to her. Or unkind. They had her number from the first moment (the intelligence services would have been assigned as soon as Meghan was in Harry’s orbit), but I’m sure she was given everything she’d need to be a success.

Also, whenever a woman joins a family, it’s like a hazing. Families don’t let just anyone in. You have to prove yourself.

R266, IIRC HMTQ may have also commented on the wearing of a veil as being questionable.

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WHAT negative stories?

It’s in the best interest of the family to keep the negative stories buried. Is she stupid? Or paranoid?

After three years of this bullshit, I vote stupid.

[quote]I think it’s quite likely “the Firm” and the family treated Markle badly.

[quote]Receipts please, right now will be fine, I'll wait.

Still waiting; still here, please provide receipts ... or you're just another low-functioning moron with zero critical thinking skills, believing whatever pablum the Harkle's SPIN-DOCTORS feed you

Incidentally, the most racist people in the media these days are Meghan and Harry

r238 looks like Harry is spraying hair on top. Not only is he dim and whiny he has now lost his looks.

They are a global laughingstock at this point.

why werent no private pix of diana and harry in this doc?

I think in his bio wont have private pics of Harry with Diana....

I hope in C3's next Christmas speech he sits in a study which clearly has no framed photos of the Sussexes in sight. He dodged that one this time.