Olive Garden manager fired after time-off rant

Team manager.

I agree with the manager's rant.

Even back in high school and college when I worked part-time jobs, I almost never called in sick, except on a few rare instances when I was, in fact, coughing up a lung and 100 degree fever sick.

The fact that the news people were making outraged editorial comments is both sad and indicative of what lazy asses people have become.

I hope the manager gets a raise, but will likely end up fired.

She was already fired by Olive Garden R2

If you're sick, stay the fuck home, especially if you work in a restaurant. If you're out more than 3 days, bring a Dr note that you were sick and you're okay to return to work.

I fucking HATE people who always come to work sick, just to brag about how dedicated they are and how sick they are. Inevitably they end up giving their fucking bugs to coworkers who can ill-afford to get ill from some self-backpatter asshole.

[quote]She was already fired by Olive Garden [R2]

Unfortunately, while I agree with her 95 Theses, I would have fired her, as well.

Putting in writing, let alone posting, such an unhinged screed demonstrates a lack of good judgment that no corporation can tolerate in a manager. You're too much a liability to remain employed.

I think the only part with which I disagreed is her coming in to work sick. I mean, food service and illness aren't good partners.

But, I get her point that the majority of people calling in sick were probably not sick.

Olive Garden doesn't pay their staff enough to make showing up worthwhile. If the place paid well, you can bet the staff would come in to work.

Do they pay their chefs at their cooking school in Italy well?

The Olive Garden manager seems like a Datalounger.

[quote]Olive Garden doesn't pay their staff enough to make showing up worthwhile. If the place paid well, you can bet the staff would come in to work.

Don't take the job if you don't like what you're paid.

Yes, it really is that simple.

Gen Z does not want or know how to work. They're where you're seeing problems at all of these entry level jobs, previously filled by millenials but vacated as they've moved up the ladder.

Uneasy lies the head that wears the Bella Cucina Mangia al Forno crown.

Ewww... who eats at Olive Garden anymore?

No one should dedicate their life to Olive Garden. The manager can DIAGF.

[quote]Ewww... who eats at Olive Garden anymore?

Ewww...who ever ate at Olive Garden?

I like her. I hope she gets hired by a more upscale restaurant like Maggiano’s or Cheesecake Factory.

I get the frustration, but in these lawsuit-phobic times, the manager sealed her fate by implying that employees who are sick or injured should forgo medical care for the sake of work.

I had a retail job where people called out constantly. About half the staff wouldn't show up any given day. (And this was in the late '90s, so the current situation not just a "kids these days!" thing.) But the business had an effective solution -- schedule about twice as many people as you really need.

Not the point like someone else pointed out. Don't take the job if it's below your delusional mind's pay grade! We know you want to be TikTok or Instagram famous, but the reality is, you're just a delusional piece of shit, NOW SCRUB THE TOILET I may use when I'm in your establishment.

And I've never eaten at Olive Garden because my Italian ancestors would probably turn over in their graves, but the is a LACK OF GENERAL STANDARDS.

I recently went into a McDonald's and went to the counter to order. The mouse-like rodent at the counter couldn't have been bothered to open her mouth to tell me I could order at the Kiosk and just eyed in that direction. I told her no, you can do your job and push those buttons like you are being paid to.

Where R10, would you have them work then? OG hires people with no prior work experience, like other restaurants both sit down and fast food. All of these places have been used to paying shit wages. Now people are unwilling to put up with bad treatment form management, plus low pay.

And you morons whining about "youngsters today" sound just very, very old.

Are you an idiot or can't read, R2? It states in the THREAD TITLE that she was fired. YOU are a perfect example of the problem.

[quote]Do you know in my 11.5 years at Darden how many days I called off? Zero. I came in sick. I got in a wreck literally on my to work one time, airbags went off and my car was totaled, but you know what, I made it to work, ON TIME!

No need to be a cunt and a disease spreader and a martyr about your shit job and expecting everyone else to follow your example.

The average salary of an Olive Garden manager: $58,000. And the Manager's Olive Garden superiors didn't give a second thought to firing her for embarrassing them. No doubt they didn't object too strenuously to the spirit of her message, but having pit it on writing reflected shame upward. That, of course, is bad and not to be tolerated in the OG family.

Among her job responsibilities was recognition of the staffing situation and all its manifestations -- and planning accordingly to adapt to someone calling to say they cannot work as scheduled that day.

Her mistake was to confuse Olive Garden and an Eisenhower Era work ethic. And to be a cunt about it.

[quote]Gen Z does not want or know how to work

Not true. Gen Z, and Millennials for that matter, have seen how loyalty to an employer MEANS NOTHING.

They've seen their parents and grandparents bow down to their jobs/employers and still end up stagnant in life. The newer gens are cool with working, but they're not going to prioritize their employer over themselves like previous generations.

Because they've seen, at least in this stage of America, kowtowing to one's employers does not pay off.

Bringing back the normalcy of unions might help both sides of this issue, imo.

R2, so you spread your illness to others when you worked around food?

Very mature of you

R18 sounds like a snob and a sociopath

R10, if no one's taking those jobs who is going to work there

People say "If you don't like shitty wages, don't work there".....then no one works there and they have to close due to staffing shortages

R24 sounds like an entitled lazy fuck with delusions of grandeur.

Must be crazy for non Americans to read what our most motivated bootlickers have to say.

It’s funny that some posters will demand loyalty to some shitty job and then I’m sure also post in the thread about instant termination and say that that’s what workers deserve lol.

Gen Z and Millennials are fucking cunts at work. I have dozens of stories of these fucking retards but why waste my time. LOL. Fucking tards every one of em.

It's more just sad, R27. These people are brainwashed that to be a good employee is the pinnacle of life.

Bragging about coming to work sick when you work in the food industry around customers? Real classy. That’s not dedication.

I’m not sorry to say this but it is usually the ones with no lives who are the “hard working, long suffering dedicated employees who want everyone to stay as late as possible because they don’t want to go home to their miserable lonely lives.”

Gen Z is the first generation finally standing up to horrendous working conditions and saying, nope, not good enough. Corps have been working the working poor into the ground for too long usually under increasingly harsher conditions. And we wonder why we have so many angry, hostile people with broken relationships and families.

They don’t want you to enjoy one fucking minute of work or things must be too easy. If you can lean you can clean. What fucking bullshit. They want to squeeze blood from a stone. Fuck them. Work shouldn’t be miserable. What a concept!

The pay is not as bad as some of you trained monkeys are saying so you will have to find another excuse for the laziness of these workers.

I actually heard with my own two ears my neighbor's 16-year-old son talk about how he only lasted one day at his last five jobs because of his "sound sensitivity". He can't be around sudden noises... but can have his TV full blast while he screams all day with his online buddies about their online gaming journey through life. His parents have apologized repeatedly, but it doesn't bother me much, since it's on the side of the house I don't use much.

R32 Lie

R18, Idiocracy is a documentary.

Olive Garden, it's where straight people go to with their little brats when they're in the mood for something "fancier" than Ragu.

I hope she staples that screed to her resume because some other restaurant will appreciate her attitude and snap her right up.

Worked in restaurants for most of my 20s. When you have a good manager who fosters a good work culture there are rarely callouts and when there are they are legit.

At the good restaurants, I had a set schedule and employees were allowed to freely switch shifts as needed. We could complete closing duties/sidework within 15-20 minutes. Managers were right there out on the floor with the servers as an extra set of hands. Hardly ever had staffing issues.

At the bad ones, the schedule changed every week. All switches needed manager approval. Closing duties/sidework took almost an hour. Managers did nothing to help on the floor, locking themselves in the office even during rushes.

Had friends who worked at both OG and Red Lobster, both were Darden owned at the time, and both complained of lazy managers who prioritized paperwork over actually helping customers. Their schedules changed so much they would often call in every day just to check their schedule. They were forced to come in sick, and if feverish forced to get their temp taken by the manager before being sent home. One guy was forced to work with pink eye - they made him wear an eye patch from the first aid kit for service. (For the sake of DL, he admittedly got the pink eye from sucking all the dick at the bath house.)

Those restaurants have a horrible culture, and it shows in their microwaved food and soulless employees.

[quote] I recently went into a McDonald's and went to the counter to order. The mouse-like rodent at the counter couldn't have been bothered to open her mouth to tell me I could order at the Kiosk and just eyed in that direction. I told her no, you can do your job and push those buttons like you are being paid to.

Wow, you sure showed her who was the boss, Karen!

Managers treating employees like this is exactly why people are walking out and leaving service jobs. Fuck around and find out.

So many people seem to think they’re paying for the right to belittle and own someone for a while. Employers and customers alike

[R31] Agreed, but we're likely to be the minority on this thread judging by DL's overall conservative streak on anything that isn't related to gayness. Their mindset of grinding until you die in a ditch of alcohol poisoning is luckily on the way out.

[quote]If your dog died, you need to bring him in and prove it to us.

MARY!

I once worked at Walgreens. I had a ball buster manager, but she understood you could have fun at work and work hard. She would try to schedule people to work when they wanted and work with friends. You could straighten the aisles with a friend, playing music, and have fun after closing. Our productivity and happiness showed. She always won the awards the corp had going on.

We had another manage who was the opposite. Guess who had the most “sick days” called on?

Fuck these corp assholes who think work should be miserable and you should work yourself to the bone under shitty conditions with ehh pay. Fuck you shills who support such a system. Ol Elon was just saying how compliant the Chinese workers are. You corp shills don’t realize you’re sliding us towards slavery only it won’t be just Blacks next time. If autocracy ever gets here, and it looks to be coming fast, take a good look at bleak Russia. That’s your future. And us gays don’t really have our children to fall back on when they take away our SS and Medicare.

Stop equating being lazy with not tolerating shitty working conditions. I am glad Gen Z is saying, “not thanks” to that bullshit. Maybe if you pussies would have we wouldn’t be in this fucking mess.

These people are managers BECAUSE they are petty tyrants and bullies…it’s a feature not a bug. OG only fired her because she embarrassed them publicly…she should have been given a raise for espousing real American values, as demonstrated in this thread.

Lol this thread is filled with ancient Karens. Fortunately you’ll all be dead soon.

Yes. All the brain dead Boomers will go to Golden Girls heaven where they will all be slutty but ugly Blanche.

In every generation, there are those with delusions of grandeur who think that they are changing the world for the better.

Some are genuine and others are just entitled pieces of shit, who feel they deserve to start at the top.

And as for the "ancient Karens"... us Gen Xrs are doing just fine. In fact, looking at most of your light-deprived vampires, we know you are nothing more than just hot air... blowholes.

And for being dead soon, a lot of you look closer to death than we do.

R47 Fucker, I’m 36. Your generation should have expected and demanded more. Instead, you let corp fuck you up the ass for so long your gape has extended to those decades younger. Demand better.

No generation can change the corporatocracy. Stupid fuck.

Blanche is ugly?

It’s sad how successful this contrived generational-divide bullshit is at distracting the masses. Total sleight of hand.

The manager is right. Of course you should stay home if you are sick, but that’s about it.

Bring your dead dog to work, do you R52?

The manager is a psychopath.

Rue McLanahan was one of the ugliest bitches to ever live. One of my buds pointed it out to me and at first I wouldn't believe it but then after awhile I was like YES. That is one of the ugliest cunts alive.

If people are calling in that often it is a manager issue.

Oh please R53. She had it with the constant excuses and was being dramatic. Only a borderline retard would take that seriously.

When I worked retail I hated the lazy employees who could not be relied upon to come to work. And as a bonus they were always asking everyone else to take shifts for them. If you’re sick fine stay home but you know those types rarely actually are.

[quote]If you’re sick, you need to come prove it to us. If your dog died, you need to bring him in and prove it to us.

Who doesn't love a delicious meal served by a sick employee accompanied by a dog corpse?

R57 Crock of shit post. I worked retail and that was never a reality. You either had a sucky manager or are lying. I’m going with the latter you conservative POS.

R58 =

Rue McClanahan was gorgeous. The syphilis has really wrecked your brain R54.

R61 Same way that Irene Cara was "gorgeous". Man, how you gays worship the ugliest cunts around.

Oh, you’re the Irene Cara was Ugly troll.

God, I remember hearing the life stories of my two grandfathers who were in WWII, and my great-grandfather (born in 1888) who was in WW1 and lived through many wars, the depression, and much more. I'm sure even they couldn't understand the struggle of a 16-year-old online gamer who is sensitive to sound to the point that he can't flip burgers because the utensils might bang together making an upsetting, triggering noise.

Yeppers. DLers famously worship ugly cunts and ugly men. Like attracts like. Mirrors of themselves. You get it, right toots. Then they call actually good looking girls like Raquel Welch the ugly ones.

R64 Fake story

R64 yeah this generation is so fucking fragile. My parents also went through WW2 and before that a massive depression. people starved to death during the depression. During the war, they had to ration stuff for the war effort.

A lot of people in previous generations couldn’t cope either, but they had self-medication and beating the children to soothe their anxieties. Attention morons, this “greatest generation” crap is all stupid right-wing propaganda.

I'm nominating the OP for the 2022 Humanitarian Award.

When I was growing up, staying home sick was not an option unless I had a high fever or was actively vomiting. That was the norm in my family. Not all illnesses or physical ailments are contagious. I had a serious non-contagious illness for 4 years which included severe anemia, and still I never missed a day of work even though I could barely hold my head up at times. However, real life emergencies do happen and the work-place has to make allowances. That's where the manager made the fatal error.

On the other hand, some people are just natural grifters and take advantage. In the 80s I taught at a major university. Every Friday one student in particular seemed to have a family crisis that necessitated her missing classes. The teachers all got together and compared notes. We realized that she had to have 18 grandparents, because that's how many Fridays she missed with the excuse usually being "I have to go home for my grandparent's funeral"

[quote]Attention morons, this “greatest generation” crap is all stupid right-wing propaganda.

See how the Ukrainians are fighting for their country? In the 1940s Americans would have done the same for the US.

You think today's 20 year olds would do the same?

R70 Another fake anecdotal story that means what?

I agree, the Greatest Generation produced a lot of serial killers, alcoholics, and child abuse. I think the current generation are too helicopter and overprotective. There is a balance.

Corporate America is good at creating this “pull yourself up by your bootstraps you lazy POS” narrative while they get massive subsidies and tax breaks for their businesses. The rubes eat it up.

“ If you're that mentally ill that you cannot do your goddam job, become a junkie whore so you apply for social security benefits... “

Really? That manager is equating mental illness to laziness/lack of a worth ethic. Plenty of people who suffer from a mental illness not only battle that every minute but also go to work. That manager should have been fired on the sport for that alone.

Based on sick calls, about 75% of zzzzzzers are extremely ill people. They may not be boot lickers, but they certainly want everything without having to put in anything. I believe the manager was using hyperbole to point out that the that the number of times people call out sick is exceedingly, embarrassingly frequent. No one is fooled by the pretense.

R73 I think that was OP, not the manager.

R74 makes no sense

R70 is Darfur Orphan. She tried to fit in regular society but she couldn't handle it. Poor thing.

R68 and R72

"the Greatest Generation produced a lot of serial killers, alcoholics, and child abuse. I think the current generation are too helicopter and overprotective. There is a balance"

Yes, we can tell with the weekly school shootings.

[quote] [R61] Same way that Irene Cara was "gorgeous". Man, how you gays worship the ugliest cunts around.

How can you look at Irene Cara in all her pulchritude and not think "gorgeous"???

I get the managers frustration but she showed herself to be an incompetent cunt who cant control her emotions. You dont berate and belittle staff. I had a starbucks manager come in once after a bad car accident and he was a complete nervous wreck. We sent him home early. Him being a hero and showing up didnt accomplish anything.

If you need proof for days off, fine, ask for it. If specific people always call in sick, dont schedule them. Pull them aside and talk to them privately. Start interviewing to replace the dead weight. A good manager can sense immediately who is pulling their weight or not. Schedule extra during rush hours to cover these things. A well running team starts at the top.

[quote]I am kind of on the manager's side... I'm noticing a HUGE lack of general standards when it comes TO DOING YOUR FUCKING JOB over the last few years. Go out on lunch break and order your meal online, online to find that the restaurant had to close down for two hours because employees didn't show up or the manager didn't order enough food to fill orders that day - and they're waiting on an emergency shipment.

That's the manager's fault, dipshit OP. If the online ordering system is still up and running even though they're closed or they don't have food, that's the fault of the manager and no one else.

You said yourself "if the manager didn't order enough food" and then you went on some psycho-stupid rant about the employees.

Some days DL is fine, but on the weekends, it's nothing but stupid people with mental illnesses making up lame ESTs because they don't have anyone in their real lives to talk to.

[quote]Even back in high school and college when I worked part-time jobs, I almost never called in sick

Nobody fucking cares.

You know what, let me take that back: a few dozen 70-something old cranks on Datalounge care, because they've turned into the same resentful, whiny, entitled, lazy old coots that their fathers were, with nothing but stories of "kids these days suck, not like me, I was a terrific human being when I was their age" running through their heads 24/7.

It should worry a LOT of you that you have no concept of how the world of 2022 really is. You have stepped completely away from reality and replaced it with some idealized version of what you think the past was like, based on memories that aren't even accurate. When something mildly irritates you, you're reminded that it's 2022, and you have a meltdown about the woke, SJWs, Millennials, and/or welfare queens, all because your turkey club didn't have extra mayonnaise like you ordered.

You're all lucky you live in a country where things are so cushy that you can make up your own reality and still survive.

I am on the manager's side in THIS CASE. She IS NOT the manager of any of the restaurants that happened with online ordering IN MY CASE. But since you re-wrote this story to fit your own psychosis, I"m not going to argue with you about this, since nothing sinks into your brain.

I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt and thinking she was just burnt out from years of lazy losers not wanting to work.

TEAM LAZY BITCH!! Fuck this whore. Jobs these days literally want your soul in exchange for pennies on the dollar especially a fucking restaurant job. I can't leave even if it's a family emergency? I gotta prove it? Bitch please this is olive garden not a government position. If my family has an emergency you best believe I'm no longer gonna care about serving butter biscuits to fat ass olive garden customers/strangers.

[quote] I had a serious non-contagious illness for 4 years which included severe anemia, and still I never missed a day of work even though I could barely hold my head up at times.

"I worked for years when I was too sick to stand" is not something to brag about.

Christ, I hope you weren't driving during this time, or responsible for anything of any importance.

Just kind of indicates that the job doesn't pay or treat their employees well enough for the employee to act like this. Employee probably accurately figures that he/she can walk into another low paid job.

R84 Gets it!

R84 ahahahahahahahaha

That poser gives “My boss lets me have some catsup with muh fries if I’m a good boy” vibes.

It really isn't even that harsh. I took the "dog died" part simply as "don't make dramatic excuses for not showing up without providing proof for your reason."

Some people do take the piss and they should be fired. But if it keeps happening? That's more of a problem with how much you make the job worth it. That's market economics, baby.

BTW, a lot of people in this thread are missing that the MANAGER was fired for sending that harsh message. A huge indicator that Olive Garden like many other fast food and low paid employers are struggling to attract and retent workers...

She had 11.5 years under her belt, so I'm not buying that she was the problem. I can't even begin to imagine what horrors my 16-year-old neighbor with "sound sensitivity" would endure in only 11.5 days.

Just another case of lazy fucks who don't want to go out of their comfort zone for anyone but themselves. Selfish, selfish, selfish.

*pay

R91 it’s fake dumbfuck

R91 The Olive Garden manager was fired despite her loyalty to the company for 11.5 years though? That doesn't give you any pause? The company is there to make money, not to play nice. But she was still fired.

My nephew got his first job at a supermarket. He endlessly complained that they kept making him do cart pickup from the parking lot, work at the registers when it got busy, clean various areas, and *gasp* occasionally help a customer find something. You know, all the kinds of things you do when you work in the supermarket but haven't advanced to a specialty position like meats, produce, bakery, etc. There seemed to be an expectation that work was supposed to be only interesting and fun activities while getting paid something more than $18/hr for unskilled labor.

Yes, that fat fuck loud-mouths on social media have too much say R94. She was fired because the company was pressured to do so because of online faux outrage.

^^ He's a great kid, he just needed to get learn some life lessons and adjust his attitude.

R96 I don't believe that. The company is smart enough to look beyond that. I think it was because they have trouble recruiting and keeping low paid workers.

What I’m hearing is ,”I was taken advantage of so I’m a miserable POS who can’t understand why anyone doesn’t understand being taken advantage of and working in shitty, demeaning jobs conditions isn’t character building. How dare you want better?:

Just go look at the recent Yelp ratings for this location. Some miserable cunt totally staged the bathroom and draped toilet paper around calling the place filthy and saying that the manager Jessica was yelling at employees. The bathroom looks very clean... other the toilet paper this ONE REVIEW reviewer draped around the area she photographed.

R99 are you hearing voices? Are you supposed to be taking your Thorazine daily?

R100 How many people really look at individual Olive Garden reviews? It's a chain like McDonald's. You basically know what to expect. The company isn't dumb enough to fire a long time manager over something like that if they could still get away with it. But in this economy (inflation, expensive housing and so on) they can't.

Just because a manage was with the company 11 years doesn’t mean they’re good. I mean JFC Russian bots, we’ve all had bosses who had a zillion years yet were awful.

Yeah just take a look through this twitter feed and see the comments calling for her head.

R104 Comments? Most of them were news reports. And the first non-news tweet was this:

"@Superma69860498

Olive Garden manager fired because she was tired of Gen Z employees laying off because their pets are sick. I worked for the RR for 35 years. I went to work sick, tired, no matter the weather. This Gen Z is aptly named. Zero accountability, Zero credibility,Zero ethics. ZERO!!!"

^ I kind of love how the bunch of numbers at the end of that twitter user is bot-like.

Another comment:

"@Kaylawaa

I work for Olive Garden. This manager was only fired because this went public. Darden managers regularly violate labor laws and steal wages from employees. Their hiring ads lie about providing a bunch of benefits that they do not. Trash company, truly."

Pretty believable. The manager was doing what Olive Garden wanted and they still turned around and fired HER.

More comments (which are sparse in between the profligation of news reports):

"@KDuffySr

Another "woke" business I will no longer be a customer of. Fired a manager for doing his job. How sad. And a long term dedicated employee too. #BoycottOliveGarden"

"@6LetsFightClub

Olive Garden manager fired after time-off rant: 'If you’re sick ... prove it to us'"

Lawl if you can't handle restaurant management, then fuck off."

"@Civil2024

The manager at Olive Garden deserved a fucking raise not fired. Wtf is wrong with these companies. They don't care about their business making money they'd rather waste it on shitty employees this shits just backwards"

R108 You in 1860: “Yes massir, thank you for not beating me today.”

R109 No, you've misunderstood - that's my point. Most of these comments are MAGA-supporting conservative Boomer types. No idea why someone claims there was a mass movement against Olive Garden. Yes, a lot of news reports. But they fired that manager because they are having trouble recruiting and keeping workers.

Poor Karen, she couldn't ask to see the manager, since she was the manager= she was talking to herself. I agrre with her, the lower classes should work, but would have fired her, just because she's a woman

Is this cunty manager a cis-woman or a trans-woman?

How many of those MAGA-supporting Boomers will go work for Olive Garden for minimum wage? Yet Olive Garden knows that they will still go there regardless and spend money on fake Italian chain fare.

R108 Whenever I go to a restaurant for the first time, I leave if I don't hear coughing and hacking from the kitchen. I don't want to be served by people with a POOR man's work ethic.

R113 they would. they would do 30% as much work as their gen z/millennial coworkers and still stand around complaining that anyone born after 1980 is a sissy who doesn't work hard enough. Maybe brag about the business acumen they picked up managing six 7-11s in Kern county 30 years ago. Things aren't as good as they used to be, what with those new fangled computers making everything TOO COMPLICATED

Olive Garden doesn’t treat its employees great. Shit benefits. Shit pay. But, G-d forbid a low wage manager actually vocalizes it.

I don't know why DL is obsessed by "the workforce " or "working". I find it boring AF, I have zero joy in working, and do it as rarely as I can. My joy is in spending money in antiques and nice stuff, not slaving for it.

R117 I figure that they want armies of cheap workers to make their fast food, serve them coffee, wait on them in restaurants, do cleaning and yard work, man their planes and move luggage....

while I agree that lower classes should work, I don't understand DL"s bitterness and obsession. Most of you are of trashy Krauts descent, and lower middle class at best. Who do you think you're fooling ?

My partner supervises a group home for adults with intellectual disabilities. It’s the same shit, usually coming from the under 30 crowd. He had one guy literally call in “tired” because he was up gaming all night - not even joking. He had another guy want to use sick time because his good friend died and he needed time to “process”. My partner’s like, when’s the last time you talked to this friend, and the kid goes 6 months ago. My partner goes, oh, so how’s his family doing? Kid goes, I didn’t know them. Oh, so how’d he die? Kid - I don’t know. The kid goes and takes 3 days off, but my partner got it switched to leave without pay. He’s got some young people who are really good, conscientious workers, but the ones who expect coddling and time off for everything are definitely the under 30 crowd.

[quote] I recently went into a McDonald's and went to the counter to order.

[quote] R18 sounds like a snob

These two statements would seem to cancel each other out.

[quote] You know what, let me take that back: a few dozen 70-something old cranks on Datalounge care, because they've turned into the same resentful, whiny, entitled, lazy old coots that their fathers were, with nothing but stories of "kids these days suck, not like me, I was a terrific human being when I was their age" running through their heads 24/7.

[quote] It should worry a LOT of you that you have no concept of how the world of 2022 really is. You have stepped completely away from reality and replaced it with some idealized version of what you think the past was like, based on memories that aren't even accurate. When something mildly irritates you, you're reminded that it's 2022, and you have a meltdown about the woke, SJWs, Millennials, and/or welfare queens, all because your turkey club didn't have extra mayonnaise like you ordered.

Very accurate. (I'd say "This X 1000" if I really wanted to piss them off further.)

What's sadder still is that most retired from rainbow-collar jobs and live on fixed incomes somewhere in Darkest Flyoverstan. Their rants are in many ways fascinating in that they're a window into the minds of all those people who vote for Trump--far better than any New York Times "at this Ohio diner" Cleetus safaris.

They don't have families or much contact with anyone who is not an Eldergay, hence the assumption that everyone under 40 still lives in their parents basement. (Though to be fair, in the rural areas they live in, this may be more true than not.)

As for the OP's story-- of course she got fired. No company is going to want the bad PR that comes with that. While her frustrations are likely warranted, the way she handled them was unhinged and at a time when restaurants like Olive Garden have a hard time finding employees, the last thing they need is word getting out that this is what employees can expect.

So I am sure there was not even the slightest bit of debate at corporate as to what the correct course of action should be.

As for younger workers, as several have mentioned upthread, they saw their parents devote their lives to work, missing family events, suffering from ill health as a result of feeling they could not miss a day's work, all the ill effects of stress... and still get fired during recessions.

Worse, many of them saw their parents financial status take a huge hit-- all those 45 and 50 year old middle managers who devoted themselves to a single company and then could not find a similar job because their skills were not transferable to another company.

Meanwhile the top 15%, the upper middle classes, increasingly live separate lives, never interacting with anyone else, a task made easier by Covid-era "innovations" that allow, say, you to order your Starbucks coffee on an app and pick it up at the counter without ever having to actually talk to anyone,

Millennials and Z are a cunting mess. It's impossible to have a business right now unless you're a sole proprietor and have no intentions of hiring anyone, or you bring in people from other countries whose brains aren't zapped with victimology, drugs or grift lust.

Oh noes!!!! I can’t exploit workers and pay them nothing while I get rich off their cheap labor!!!!

[quote]Where [R10], would you have them work then? OG hires people with no prior work experience, like other restaurants both sit down and fast food. All of these places have been used to paying shit wages. Now people are unwilling to put up with bad treatment form management, plus low pay.

I stand by my previous statement: If you don't think it pays enough, don't take the job.

If you don't have the work experience or training for another job, STFU. If people aren't willing to take then job, guess what? They'll have to pay more or close the business because they can't find employees.

If they're being "mistreated" that is a completely separate issue. But again, if you don't like how you're being treated, quit.

If you have no skills or training, get some and stop whining. That's what people used to do. We'd take crap jobs to get experience and got better jobs once we became employable.

LOL - it's not "exploiting" cheap labor.

This is a case where I can kind of see an argument for both sides.

She clearly didn't know how to motivate her staff or get them to want to work with her or for her, so the negative shit she sent out came right back to her. And most staffers are not going to dedicate themselves in the way a salaried person or full timer would, like the manager.

Also, it's fucking Olive Garden. No one wants to die of COVID because they gave some sad, fat old suburbanite Trumpers their Tour of Italy!

On the other hand, there's always assholes who call off at the most inopportune time. I worked at a big box bookstore in a big city, and while I wasn't a store manager, I was a department manager & was usually scheduled for at least one weekend evening. We had so many theater people and/or musicians working for us - they'd beg for a job and then pull a no call/no show after getting a gig for Saturday night, etc. There's just a point where enough is enough.

Olive Garden is firing abusive managers but lazy Gen Z workers remain a problem. Why that's bad news for Joe Biden.

The majority of her points are valid. She may or may not be a "good manager."

These are two separate issues.

I shouldn´t fault an Olive Garden restaurant worker with 'laziness', R128, whether pegged to generational profile or other reason, no more than I would fault a fast food worker for scooping up a small order of fries with an insufficient amount of 'love' and 'pride.' Why celebrate the value of things that no one values in real life, only in the grievances of old fucks who remember when the average Olive Garden server wage of $8.00/hour could have bought...what? four beers in a bar in 1982? back when you could get hard and get laid?

Nobody is making any money working in an Olive garden restaurant, not even full-time in California where the minimum wage is $15/hour and the average cost of a home is $600,000. And it's not just the money and what it doesn't buy. What pride in a job well done Is associated with shift work at Olive Garden in an age when everyone is developing their brand, when their stated real job is as an entrepreneur and influencer, as a consumer and trend setter, not as a bread stick server (or that famous Italian dish, chicken and shrimp alfredo)? Not much. Respect accorded them by customers? Not much. Respect accorded them by corporations that fight tooth and nail against any increase of salary or employment protections. Less, still, much less. Managers and HR departments talk of teams and 'families' ffs. They try to bolster some entirely antiquated notion that there is a pot of good at the end of that bootstrap rainbow. There isn't. If there's a pot of gold (big 'if'), it sure as fuck won't be found at Olive Garden. And it certainly won't be found by perfect attendance, a go-get-'em attitude and by climbing the OG corporate ladder. There's no reward beyond the hourly wage and maybe a tip. Be the best you can be, be the best anybody can be, and the increase in your return will never exceed miniscule.

The dream is a lie. There is no reward. Yes, $8 an hour is better than $0 an hour, bt it doesn add up; it doesnt amount to a difference. There's nothing noble about a lie that promises dignity and never delivers (except of course in the apocryphal story of your immigrant great-grandparents' generation.) It's not people who dont take their minimum wage jobs dead seriously who are out of touch, it'e people who believe that they should do.

It was a Pitchbot joke R130

The fact that all the stories about this manager are CAREFULLY written to destroy her while protecting the incompetent employee's little feelings in those reviews/reddits, tweets, etc. says it all about where we are now. It's not about some 16-year-old standing up to the man because those before him were gutted by the system. We all worked shit jobs in high school and college for spending money or to make ends meet.

The only thing I disagree with this manager on is what she said about coming to work sick... the rest is just being fed up with useless, entitled brats, who would rather sit at home and play video games, because mommy and daddy are too afraid to introduce any form of structure to them.

We are not talking about careers, although there is nothing wrong with someone making a career out of working at one of these places if that's what they want. A $15-an-hour job for a dishwasher is not horrific, no matter how much you deranged fucks want to spin this to fit your agenda. My first on-the-books job was for $6.25 an hour doing the same thing in 1986 when I was 16. My first actual job was in 1983 at a deli, slicing cold cuts for $3 an hour. I'm sure the wages I posted are just starting wages, not with raises, but I have no idea since I don't know anything about Olive Garden, since I've never been to one.

I think a lot of you are shut-ins and haven't experienced the general lack of standards in today's workforce. Like others have said, if you don't want to do the job then DON'T!

And no I am not the Arrested Development Troll... I've been called The Honest Question Troll.

The fact remains, I walked into a restaurant, where the girl at the counter couldn't have bothered to open her miserable mouth and thought eyeing over toward the kiosk was an acceptable form of greeting a customer.

I treat people how they treat me. If she had been friendly, it would have been a completely different story, but she was a cunt and she got a cunt in return as a customer that day.

R132 And yet they fired the manager and not the workers.

An inflation calculator says that $6.25 an hour in 1986 is equivalent to $16.99 today..

That manager rant was off the rails. I’m glad that thing was fired.

Let that manager's story be a lesson to all the bootlickers out there--you can defend your employer by demanding accountability and reliability all you want and you'll still get shit canned.

Guess her hard work, reliability,and loyalty didn't mean much to Olive Garden did it? STOP defending corporations who exploit the working class by providing no benefits and no job protection.

That manager is ridiculous. Most people who work there are young people or high school. This is not a career for most of them. Glad they were fired.

They stopped having gay days at Canada's Wonderland because half the staff would call in sick.

R13 and R15 -- while not my choice I ate at an OG three times. Meh, but not awful. My brother worked in the kitchen (not Italy-trained) for a while for extra cash. He said that it wasn't the most spotless kitchen he'd ever seen. Huge opening and closing lists that have to be performed to the last word. Too big and well-known to chance getting a bad health department report. You can take that for whatever it's worth. I'd go for clean and so-so over dirty but delicious any day of the week.

^^^ Sorry, sorry, sorry ^^^ Meant to say that IT WAS the most spotless kitchen. . .

[quote] where the minimum wage is $15/hour and the average cost of a home is $600,000

But no one is going to be buying a home on that kind of salary, anyway. Nor were they ever supposed to.

[quote]Let that manager's story be a lesson to all the bootlickers out there--you can defend your employer by demanding accountability and reliability all you want and you'll still get shit canned...Guess her hard work, reliability,and loyalty didn't mean much to Olive Garden did it?

She was fired, and rightfully so, for poor judgment and engaging in an activity that reflected poorly on the company.

ANYONE would be fired for the PR fiasco she created. By her own actions she became a huge liability to the company, not to mention likely opened them up to employee lawsuits for working conditions.

No company is going to maintain your employment under such circumstances. It had nothing to do with loyalty.

R141 Yet, those jobs are plentiful and there aren’t enough younger people to fill them, or who want to. We have a huge # of meh paying jobs. While we are bringing back more manufacturing jobs, and more SKILLED jobs, we have a large # of people who are undereducated, unskilled, half the population has an under 100 IQ- these people kinda need to live off these jobs as they have few other opportunities. Capitalism better figure this out. We’ve tried Capitalism the conservative way since Reagan and it has been a disaster. We had it under the liberal way (FDR to LBJ) and it was a huge success. Let’s go back to the liberal way.

[quote]We had it under the liberal way (FDR to LBJ) and it was a huge success. Let’s go back to the liberal way.

I can't even begin to list all the ways that this statement is flawed.

R143 is at a second-grade reading level

R49 Wasn’t Walmart or Target offering paying for college tuitions last year?

That’s how desperate they were getting.

Retail has had to adjust because no one wants to take the shitty job.

So you’re wrong.

R146 That doesn't change anything at all, illiterate fuck.

R145 that’s high for most republicans.

R147 I can only imagine who employees a rotten personality like you. McDonalds?

You have to have factory-type jobs that pay decently and have benefits -- a place for dimwits to make an honest living and raise a family. It's very fucking important.

Things have changed so, so much in the last 20 years.

We lost many jobs in deindustrialization, but mergers/consolidations and automation has taken it to a devastating level. Now people who didn't specialize in a trade or go to college are working in retail and fast food, jobs that were, for the most part, never intended to support a family (outside of maybe managerial positions).

I got was infected with CoViD by some asshole who insisted on showing up to work sick, as were 5 other employees.

In a small business, that’s pretty catastrophic, and in a huge corporation, it hurts the bottom line.

Not sure if this was the case where this Olive Garden was - but there has been a lot of sickness going around the past 2-3 weeks. Flu, RSV, and even increase in COVID again.

The presumption by the manager is that everyone was faking it - and while that may be, it's actually more probable that people WERE sick.

And - I just looked it up - YEP - Kansas City has seen early and severe flu outbreaks in November and are dealing with major Flu, RSV and Covid cases.

Fuck all of you who believes they're just lazy employees.

With the level of this manager's frustration, I'm sure it goes way beyond the past 2 to 3 weeks. And I've had this cold... it was terrible. Something that would keep you out of work for a week or two, not just one day.

R13, families with "professional" stay at home moms. The husband works all day, the kids are at school all day...

Every day it just gets worse.

I can't come to work today because my dog died after eating my kid's homework.

PS My kid won't be going to school today because the dog ate his homework.

PPS I won't be in to work tomorrow either because my baby-daddy wants me to go shopping with him to buy his new baby-momma another iPhone because he smashed the old one when he caught her in bed with his brother.