Why was the Balenciaga thread wiped?

bondage jesus loved too many children

RIP Teddy bears

Because you accused gay men, specifically gay men who use this website, of a monstrous crime just to make a point.

Because we have a very expensive crises PR team and we’re in the midst of a pedo s/m scandal.

We don’t see what all the fuss is about.

Because of r4

When in doubt, it's because OP wipes back to front.

No, never, r3.

Lone posters, scrawling something unhinged, seem to be the reason lots of threads are wiped.

How boring!

I missed the original thread but I will say I think they did it on purpose for publicity. Just like Gucci with their racist sweaters. Look at all the attention they got.

R8 probably

Hadn't checked into the Balenciaga thread since yesterday morning but the last time I was in there, there were quite a few of the trans-hater trolls spouting their Libs of TikTok and/or QAnon theories about gays being pedos. It sucks that the far-right trolling on here escalated to the point that posters were frequently and casually saying the kind of homophobic things I haven't heard much since the 1980s.

R8 Without question, but it was painfully ill-thought-out.

I know it was only morons wearing it in the first place, but who, now, will want to wear a sweatshirt with BALENCIAGA emblazoned across it? The connotation is now sickening.

It saddened me to see one of the most respected, though mostly dormant, couture houses in Paris turned into mass-market, logo-tastic, shock-value trash. It seems justified that it should go down the shitter with Kanye.

Well, might as well go to Truth Social, Twitter or Parler to discuss this then. There you'll be sure that kind of censorship will not occur.

No one was making sweeping generalizations about gays. But the correlation between paraphilias such as autogynephilia and other even darker paraphilias as depicted in those pictures and in other works by some designers and "creatives" used by Balenciaga is very real and documented.

Stop trying to deny the realities of some paraphilias.

Shame on DL for censoring discussions of a serious nature. The gay community has historically stood up to such harms and crimes and it should never be cowered into submission by cowards afraid to confront them head on.

[quote] Shame on DL for censoring discussions of a serious nature.

Mary!

[quote]Stop trying to deny the realities of some paraphilias.

Oh god. Oh god, don't make me wake up one morning and want to put a fried egg on my head.

Because the Industry’s Cancellation has already started

Obviously there is some craziness going on with the trolls. The Zapruder film thread was wiped yesterday as well. I think it was because some crazed poster started posting the wildest conspiracy stuff, like Kennedy was never killed. Really out there Q stuff.

Nicole is Next

There was a troll in the Zapruder thread who it turned out had been posting fake information from tabloids in several JFK threads on DL over the past DECADE. I don't know for sure of course, but I really think most of these crazy trolls have been here for a long time, and I think they also probably post over-the-top stuff to get threads deleted.

This insane rant against MEN by a certain Julia Fox probably isn’t going to help Kim out of the Teddy Beardilemma

Oh, thank God, r18.

Here has to be backlash against that brand.

Those images need to be resoundingly rejected by society.

Otherwise, if the Chinese successfully overthrow the communist government, then we need to follow suit & overthrow the billionaire class. There is more of us than them. And nobody deserves that kind of money. Elon Musk didn’t invent the internet or its infrastructure. He didn’t innovate any content — we did. All he & the rest of Big Tech did was use technology against us to pick our pockets.

Billionaires are a pox on humanity. They have too much power — nobody voted for them.

And this designer brand caters exclusively to the super rich Henry VIII wannabes.

[quote]Shame on DL for censoring discussions of a serious nature.

Oh god, this bitch again. It's some Wordle-obsessed QAnon straight frau who screams "censorship" constantly, irritates everyone, and frequently starts posts asking why her threads have been deleted.

They're deleted because of you. You can stamp your widdle feet about it all you want, but you're a straight woman who doesn't belong here, is racist and homophobic, you're a rightwinger who complains about "the left" all the time, you see pedos around every corner and won't shut up about it, and you bypass the paywall by starting new Wordle threads and then get confused when your thread gets shut down, because you are very, very stupid.

[quote] and I think they also probably post over-the-top stuff to get threads deleted.

Well, we shouldn’t let them! Just ignore the trolls, Muriel always says so.

R22 off his meds conflating all kinds of different threads. Making crazy bogus accusations.

But always, always done to shut people down who disagree with him. Not gonna work. We see you, R22.

I wish DL wouldn’t delete threads. I’d rather they just delete the comments that got the threads deleted.

r25 That would require an insane amount of moderation. The one person employed to oversee DL can't possibly do all that, all day long.

[quote] Shame on DL for censoring discussions of a serious nature.

Fuck off, Dumbvida. Go sit down for a selfie in a mall Santa's lap.

[quote] I think they did it on purpose for publicity.

Dur – épatage is the re-invented Balenciaga's brand differentiation.

I guess you’re right r26. One whiff of trouble and it’s just easier to delete the entire thread.

Matt A. would start posting threats and slurs on purpose, just to get entire threads deleted, and when we were discussing this on a thread about trolls one day, someone said they asked Muriel to just delete Matt's posts. They actually did that once, but it seemed like a huge pain in the ass. They red tagged him and every post of his was replaced with [...]. I can see why they just delete the thread instead.

Most of Q-adjacent nonsense is our over-the-hill barmaid with stinky shoes from Vegas Chinatown. She's a comedienne, right, but not in the way she fancies herself.

Balenciaga is not being cancelled, it is being corrected.

They have lost the plot. You're selling luxury handbags in a crowded market.

Everyone involved in this campaign deserves to be fired and removed.

Sheesh, & perhaps arrested.

I really wish I’d never seen any of that crap. Can I sue them?? Like for trauma ?

What to Know:: from The Cut

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I’m seeing conflicting tweets about this. Obviously the bondage teddies with children is tasteless and gross. But some people are trying to tie the ads in with devil worship and all kinds of nonsense.

It was offensive enough without making up a satanic panic.

^ Coincidence?

The tape

Well, to be fair, this is NYT’s take:

[quote] When High Fashion and QAnon Collide

[quote]Two new Balenciaga campaigns ignited a firestorm that traveled from the internet to Fox News, fueled by allegations that the brand condoned child exploitation.

[quote] But some people are trying to tie the ads in with devil worship and all kinds of nonsense.

The designers and "creatives" working at or on Balenciaga (and other brand) names have histories of this and other really sick fetishes.

Damn, man, do some homework and read up on it. Don't expect all this to be handed to you. The examples are all over the internet.

Do you remember the fetish discussed here where a pedo also is into real dismemberment and castration of children? Well one of these designers has artwork depicting that. Is that just him being artsy. Some other ads (IIRC they were also Balenciaga) have seemingly innocuous photos but there are prominently displayed books and other references to pedos and other fetishists involving children.

Stop the "but", stop the politicizing of this, stop excusing it. These people are sick and they need to be called out and shunned.

R40: this article is quite in depth and mentions, amongst others, dismemberment of children’s limbs, albeit in an ‘artistic’ context

ViligentCitizen isn't a legitimate resource

These threads are wiped because contributors describe the offensive images using graphic language that is literally and figuratively triggering.

There are specific terms and specific language that can be searched and have this topic removed.

R42, only biased media YOU agree with are legitimate, right? LOL!

Address the story and the facts, not the messenger.

I can see you in the lovely spring of 1775:

What was that creep saying? Something about the British are coming? That Revere guy is a Mason. I'm not listening to anything he says.

I will never visit your website chock full of Spyware and malware.

What is with all you Q nuts and pearl clutching MARYS on here? Did the true crime threads bring these retarded cunts?

This subject matter is of topical interest. It is a subject is widely discussed and the campaign is condemned for at best being in poor taste and at worst, something incredibly sinister.

This subject matter can't be discussed on datalounge because of r44 and r40.

R40 goes into graphic and elaborate detail to describe the disturbing images.

That detail is unnecessary and it is suspicious.

To answer the original question the OP asked, look at r40 and r44 for the answer.

Anyone catch the children kneeling down before a long haired naked man in bondage? I suspect we'll see a flood of those images this month.

I was reading the other thread while it was being removed.

The comments condemned the campaign, Balenciaga and everyone involved in the creation of the campaign.

And then all of a sudden, someone popped into the conversation to declare datalounge is the only website that approved of this?

That accusation made no sense because every single comment prior had condemned Balenciaga.

Brilliant, R44.

You know sane people see it for what it is. No boundaries and people being too stupid or too cowardly to call out the effects of no boundaries.

R38 You do realise, that when you use logo tape, unless you cut full words off each time there will inevitably be an overlap of letters. Balenciaga has three letter A's, the likelihood is high. Even when you cut off full 'Balenciaga's there's a good chance that two A's will eventually be left side by side on the roll.

I know, I know, I'm using logic instead of OTT panic and drama, not good for conspiracy theories.

I don’t buy that, r52. The composition was completely planned & staged.

I'm late to the party, but honestly how did that happen? The company is panicking, apologizing and suing "responsible parties". Why did they do it then? An ad campaign does not just happen. It feels hard to explain without going all out illuminati.

R47, you’re about the only one here who hasn’t already blocked R44 and R40.

I suggest you do so immediately. Your life will be much, much simpler.

[quote] It was offensive enough without making up a satanic panic.

America has a history of this type of hysteria: Salem witch trials, Red Scare, satanic panic, repressed memories, and now this. It dates back to the Puritans and our Anglo-Saxon origins.

Most of the posters here would have shit the bed over Calvin Klein ads.

r57 ?? Explain. People not finding child abuse glamorous are prudes afraid of underwear? Or what do you mean?

Nope, r58. I won’t.

R55 is a sick fuck. Stop excusing this stuff. Tha gay community of old would never have tolerated this nor been too cowardly to speak up. That is the community that won gay rights. Not this neo-crap bunch of morons.

Because you touch yourself at night, OP.

predators everywhere forcing children to enact bdsm kinks

where is the outcry?

Creepers

I recently read an FBI report that said 1/3 of men are pedophiles.

[quote]Why was the Balenciaga thread wiped?

Because I asked for it to be deleted.

R55 = idiot

What I got from this is that Balenciaga hired out an art agency to create these images and somebody creeped symbolism that isn’t known to the hoi polli and now there’s backlash. Balenciaga doesn’t have a history of this so I’ll just say this was of poor taste and continue on with my life.

I think this is beyond mere "bad taste".

[quote]I think this is beyond mere "bad taste".

No. Agency tried to be edgy in a society where half the people are RWNJs and see evil in everything.

Because there was nothing to see there.

R72 what's an RWNJ? And yeah, including children with bondage gear is pretty fucking evil.

You are a RWNJ, r74.

Could you fuck off with that "child sexual abuse fashion ads are fine because Jesus" crap? Get yourself to therapy and stop rationalyzing.

People who see literal evil in every. fucking. thing. are the ones who need therapy. Ad agency failed at being edgy and apologized…and you’re still yapping about it.

Mona Bismark wiped it from the grave.

Balenciaga is owned by Kering. The ceo is the husband of Salma Hayek. Kering also owns Christies.

There is even more information coming out showing how depraved Balenciaga's roots are. It's parent company, Kering, is run by a man named François-Henri Pinault, who is married to Salma Hayek, and he owns an auction website that sells disgusting "art" of young children in sexual situations

R73 yeah exactly. Bluergh. These people are clearly working to normalise this.

I don't *want* to be a conspiracy theorist nut, but I do find the Latin translation of "Baal enci aga" thing quite creepy. The logical part of my brain realizes that humans can find patterns and connections in almost anything, whether they were intentional or not—but in context, it is... off-putting.

You do realize that enci and aga aren’t words in Latin, right?

r49, that was Matt. He's constantly saying that some perverted or immoral behavior is condoned by the entirety of Datalounge. It's kind of his thing right now.

R81 huh that's someone's name Balenciaga SA is a luxury fashion house founded in 1919 by the Spanish designer Cristóbal Balenciaga

Do you have any evidence that they changed their family name from something else to balenciaga?

R84: I think r81 was referring to the tape in the picture at r38

It’s spelled ‘BAALEN’ from the part that one can see

Typos? Intentional?

r81 is spouting a conspiracy theory full of lies.

Balenciaga, the name, means "from Basque."

"Baal enci aga" translated from Latin means "Baal the king."

The reason he's talking about "BAALenciaga" is because the ad photos in question have rolls of Balenciaga tape in them as product placement, and one roll has the word "Balenciaga" with two As. This is an artifact of the "B" of the first word printed on the tape being torn off, so when it lays on the rest of the layers of the roll, it looks like it says "Baalenciaga" with an extra A.

Satanic Panic conspiracy theorists believe this was done on purpose to invoke Baal.

The tape looks intact and unused

Higher resolution

This is the roll of tape in question. You can see the top layer with the tape's starting point says "BALENCIAGA" without the first letter B. Laid on top of the rest of the tape which repeats "BALENCIAGA," it makes it look like it says "BAALENCIAGA," which people have taken to mean Balenciaga worships Satan.

It's stupid.

I used to think this stuff was stupid but now I realize that there are a lot of twisted minds that work for these companies and they do express themselves by doing things like this.

There is definitely a pedo elite that wants to push acceptance for their way of life. They see people like Biden appointee Sam Brinton giving speeches at spanking conferences and think it is only a matter of time before their sexual kink will also be accepted.

The candle stuck into the beer can at r88 is suggestive too

R89: the roll of tape looks new and unused

Your argument would only work with a used roll of tape, which it clearly isn’t

[quote]"Baal enci aga" translated from Latin means "Baal the king."

Again…enci and aga are not Latin words. The Latin word for king is Rex.

If there's a "pedo elite" then they don't need some bald bitch in a low-level government position to make them socially acceptable.

R95, that's not the point. They see one type of freak who has gained acceptance and they think they can get it, too. By saturating popular culture with pedoish subject matter in the hopes it will become normal to the public.

The 80s would have had r96 clutching her pearls.

To answer OP's question: Davida and her "pedo elite" psychosis is why the Balenciaga thread was wiped.

OP = Dumbvida.

Don't you have a mall Santa to terrorize?

Dumbvida, what gave you more grief: Balenciaga with its cryptic satanist pedo campaign or that package from Walmart with LIVE BUGS inside and sugar spilling on the floor?

Latest story from Business of Fashion:

[quote] bof Verified Spray paint on stores. Slashed and burned products on social media. Accusations of promoting pedophilia on cable news.⁠ ⁠ This week, the risks of Balenciaga’s edgy approach to marketing became painfully clear — as did the errors of the company’s initial response to the crisis — as public outrage and confusion in response to the brand’s ads featuring children posing with BDSM-inspired teddy bears reached a scale not seen in the fashion industry since Dolce & Gabbana’s 2018 meltdown in China.⁠ ⁠ Late Friday, Balenciaga’s leadership issued personal apologies and said the company would drop a planned lawsuit against two external partners who had worked on its campaigns.⁠ ⁠ “I want to personally apologise for the wrong artistic choice of concept for the gifting campaign with the kids,” the brand’s creative director Demna said on Instagram. “I want to personally reiterate my sincere apologies for the offence caused and take my responsibility,” chief executive Cédric Charbit added.⁠ ⁠ The moves came after previous statements apologising for the campaigns had failed to quell the outcry. Though no major retailers have pulled Balenciaga products, by the end of the week, at least two Balenciaga stores — in key locations including LA’s Rodeo Drive and London’s Bond Street — had been vandalised and videos featuring people destroying the brand’s products circulated on TikTok.⁠ ⁠ What went wrong, and can Balenciaga get back on track?⁠

Dropping lawsuits

Latest Statement

Gee so surprising they dropped the suit considering they didn't have a leg to stand on.

Balenciaga Creative Director Demna finally sez he is Sorry

[quote] demnagram Verified Balenciaga’s Biggest U.S. Store in Miami 🤍

^ More here

This isn't Demna'a first rodeo. Strictly a performance apology. Nothing more. This is his fetish.

FF r77 for attempting to minimize this

I’m glad the public are pushing back.

I wonder what Salem Hayek thinks of all this

"If I wanted to see brainlets in the fashion industry light themselves up, I'd rewatch Zoolander"