Patricia Richardson

I always get her mixed up with Patricia Heaton, so I just hate them both to avoid the confusion.

Has a gay son.

I think she's under-rated. She reminds me of a thinner Margo Martindale. Would LOVE to see her work more but she made a lot of cash off that Tim Allen show.

She was on Grey's Anatomy recently and I had to stare for a few minutes. She has aged a lot but still has that unmistable voice.

She was fine as the long-suffering wife. Her son is not funny.

"TIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIM! I can't BELIEVE you'd be so INSENSITIVE!

I think she said that every single episode. How did she not realize after a time that he would always, always, always be so insenstivie?

Also, why did he always believe amping up the power of his devices on Tool Time wouldn't end in disaster, since it always did?

*unmistakable

R6 Tim Allen isn't enough of a comedian to write beyond that simple premise.

His next series was the same way. Man with a wife and daughters. Only male in the house. Boo-fucking-hoo. Wine jokes? Flannel shirts? Taking refuge in an outdoors store? I could fart on a typewriter and get better scripts than this shit!

R2 wow, I have followed her son on Instagram for years—he is very funny in an offbeat, spastic way. Definitely not for everyone. I had no idea she was his mother. He is a real cutie.

Liberal democrat.

She definitely improved Home Improvement as did JTT, Earl Hindman and Richard Karn. Tim Allen is not and was not funny. I also confuse her and Patricia Heaton for each other. Both played wives who were too intelligent and attractive for their ugly and ungrateful husbands. But Jill was cooler and more assertive and less of a stereotype while Debra was neurotic and constantly yelling.

[quote][R6] Tim Allen isn't enough of a comedian to write beyond that simple premise.

Tim Allen didn't write the show.

Frau

Tim Allen's success always puzzled me. I get Roseanne, Jim Carrey, Bill Cosby, Eddie Murphy, Ray Romano and Will Farrell. But Allen is not very funny and he has no charisma. Is it his averageness and everyman persona that makes him popular?

No, R14, it's his pandering to the MAGAt crowd that makes him popular.

Loves to play the victim, just like Trump and just like every other convicted felon drug dealer.

She's much better than the other sitcom wife named Patricia whom DL despises.

She was in Christmas Evil and C.H.U.D? That makes me love her.

Her son sure is handsome.

I always confuse her name (if not her face) with Patricia Heston and the other Patricia (the blond film actress).

*Heaton, fucking autocorrect

I’m surprised that no one has mentioned that she understudied “Louise” in the Lansbury “Gypsy” at the Winter Garden back in ‘74.

Jer son is on Grindr. Someone get a dick 📸

I really liked her on Home Improvement. I wanted Jill to be my mum. She just had her shit together, unlike my poor, neurotic mother, whom I have subsequently forgiven and no longer judge. But that's another story.

She’s always been just Pat to me!

She's excellent as Marilyn Monroe's mom in the TV movie version of Blonde.

She was very good---she was stuck with the tired role of "mother who knows best and tolerates her idiot husband" and still managed to make it seem entertaining. She was less exasperated than the Patricia Heaton role, but that one was written around dealing with a manipulative, overbearing MIL as much as the idiot husband. Both "Raymond" and "Home Improvement" were saved by virtue of the casting of supporting players----I suspect that Romano recognized this, but I wonder if Allen really did, given his retrograde politics. Raymond had better writing and sharper humor, whereas Home Improvement tended to replay the same basic situations over and over again.

You need to be an adult to appreciate Raymond's more subtle humor which was a parody of straight married life and also it's very East Coast in humor similar to Seinfeld. When I was younger, I found it very boring but as I've age and entered adulthood, I learned to appreciate it. And if you are familiar with New York and New Jersey suburbs (like I am), you know families like the Barones. Ironically I confused them for Jewish at first because of Marie and Robert. Shows the overlap of culture. Even the way they dressed and decorated their homes, gives the NY/NJ suburban setting.

Home Improvement is definitely written for Middle America with more simplistic and formulaic humor and its Midwestern setting (set in a very segregated suburb of Detroit). Jill and Tim were more traditional and nuanced and far less neurotic and sarcastic than Ray and Debra too. Also Home Improvement appealed to children because of the slapstick humor, cartoon sound effects and the three sons who had their spotlight especially Randy, the smartmouth rascal. While Raymond focused on the adults exclusively and you forgot their kids even existed.

She'd come on those PBS telethons every so often and I always thought she came across as intelligent and personable.

She had a guest starring role in the very first season of SVU, playing a mother competing with her daughter over some douche bag who turns up dead. I can’t remember which one ended up being the murderer, but she was quite good playing against type.

She's the frauier dollar general version of JoBeth Williams

I like her too. I bet Tim drove her absolutely crazy. There is nothing worse than a cokehead Republican with money who thinks he's funny

She seems less neurotic than JoBeth Williams.

Did one of you bitches utter Patricia Richardson and JoBeth Williams in the same sentence? You made this happen!

Plus WHET actresses Lindsey Crouse, Jill Eickenberry and Helen Supergirl Slater!!

She was on Kate and Allie once playing a bitchy socialite schoolmate of theirs at a high school reunion. Very Rosalind Russell like performance which surprised me because she well known for playing housewives.

She had to fight the producers for character development on Home Improvement.

She had the same issue that the actress from Welcome Back Kotter had, fighting with producers to change a thankless role into something more substantial., which unlike the Kotter actress, she was able to do.

Pat got along great with Tim and the cast though.

Whether he knew it or not, Tim Allen was actually the straight man on that show. The kids provided a lot of the humor. The neighbor got to be a bit much, but he highlighted that the characters reacted to Tim more than he reacted to them, which is an inversion of the usual sit com formula---the classic star vehicles like the Newhart shows, MTM, Lucy, Donna Reed, et al, had the star doing the reacting whether they were the wacky one (Lucy, Danny Thomas) or played straight (Newhart, Donna Reed). Richardson seemed to do her best with a thankless role.

I'd agree that Raymond was written for adults--there's a definite Tri-State area aspect although anyone who grew-up close Italian-American families anywhere would recognize dynamics and anyone who grew-up in 50s white working class suburbia would recognize the sets.

I know people don't like Patty Heaton, but I think she, like Richardson, hada pretty thankless role, esp. because she was always being put down by Marie. Still , she made the best of it and don't make her character as unlikable soem other actresses might have.

[quote]R18 I always confuse her name (if not her face) with Patricia Heston

[quote]R19 *Heaton*, fucking autocorrect

Patricia Heston was never given the chances in Hollywood that her twin brother Charlton was.

#MalePriviledge

She's a devout catholic. I like her

If I was Raymond I would have offed myself the minute that little right wing bitch started squawking

"Amanda Bearse said something in the makeup room one day, about you’re a bully or something, and I said, ‘Well, you’re miserable.’ It was just bad… In front of everybody, by the way. And then I said, ‘You’re not very bright, is your problem.’ And she was bright, but in a way she wasn’t because I said look… She said, ‘I’m not bright?’ And I could just see her gearing up, like ‘I’m smarter than you.’ And I said ‘No, because I’ll tell you why. I have a button I could push. That button says ‘Get rid of Amanda Bearse.’ You don’t have a button that says get rid of it Ed O’Neill. Your button doesn’t work. Mine works.’ Now, this was a mean thing to say: I never was going to push that button, but it was true. I could go to them and say ‘I can’t work with her. I go or she does.’ Who goes? So that was kind of bad.”

Patricia Richardson with dyed hair would be perfect to play Mother Pence in a Trump related film.

Years ago (around 1985) I worked with Pat Richardson and we were both in a tiny propellor plane flying from New Orleans to our location. In her arms was the baby boy who is now her gay son. Amazing to read about him here!

And I also worked a couple of year earlier with Ray Baker who was her husband back then and a very very hot man. Does he still act? I wonder....?

She was excellent as Marilyn Monroe's mom in the TV movie version of Blonde, and in the movie Ulyee's Gold.

I remember Ray Baker in “Silkwood” playing Karen Silkwood’s hot and sweaty ex. He was quite good looking.

I get her confused with Martha Plimton.

[quote] Years ago (around 1985) I worked with Pat Richardson and we were both in a tiny propellor plane flying from New Orleans to our location. In her arms was the baby boy who is now her gay son. Amazing to read about him here!

Either you have your dates way off or her son is lying about his age because in that 2021 Nylon article, it says he's 30.

Speaking of that article, holy shit is that guy heinously unfunny. And I think John Mulaney & Bill Hader may have a lawsuit because gay son is completely ripping off their Stefon character creation.

My date isn't wrong but I guess the baby she brought on the plane and to our set was an older sibling.

[quote] Baker says he decided he wanted to do comedy while watching Kate Berlant and John Early, widely considered pioneers of today’s arty, surrealist-cerebral style of stand-up and improv.

Well, that explains why he's so terrible. Berlant and Early are about as funny as brain cancer.

Always thought she and Lynn Herring from GH should play sisters in something.

Always used to think she had vocal fry when I was younger

"TIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIM! I can't BELIEVE you're still flashing your little dick at Pam Anderson. She's NOT INTERESTED!!!"

[quote]And I also worked a couple of year earlier with Ray Baker who was her husband back then and a very very hot man. Does he still act? I wonder....?

I worked with him years ago.

Very ruggedly handsome and charming.

He actually told me I was very good looking (I was cute, at best) and asked if I had representation. I sat there thinking “well, obviously I have representation, that’s how I’m able to book this job I’m doing with you.” so I’m pretty sure he was flirting with me. Kept smiling and making small talk.

I was one of a few guys hired to play high school students, though we were actually adults. Figured he liked young guys.

I at that point just assumed he was in a lavender marriage with Patricia, as her being a lesbian didn’t seem so far-fetched.