"How AIDS charities are erasing gay men"

There is something deeply sketchy about

the "facts" as reported

the infantile tone of the writing

Initially, the person Jason talked to at Thorne Harbour indicated that they would be able to offer a service to him. They conducted a long survey over the phone with a lot of personal questions. Jason left the conversation thinking he would be allocated a counsellor and told them he would prefer one with an understanding of his ‘biological reality’. Jason didn’t want to be counselled in the very gender identity ideology that he is finding alienating and homophobic.

After a week or so, a woman from Thorn Harbour Health called Jason and told him that due to the nature of his problem, they could not help him, because they were an ‘inclusive’ service. He claims that he was deemed ineligible for phone counselling because he doesn’t ‘accept trans men as gay men’.

Thorne Harbour Health claims to use a ‘social model of health’ aligned with the World Health Organisation’s Ottawa Charter. The Ottawa Charter places the discipline of Health Promotion at the centre of the rationale for population health. Health promotion is the mechanism by which disease and vulnerability to disease and sickness are placed as part of a larger framework of social justice.

Gay organizations and community groups dumped gays for the far more financially lucrative, visible and powerful translunacy. That AIDS charities have jumped on the translunacy juggernaut should surprise no one.

[quote]due to the nature of his problem, they could not help him, because they were an ‘inclusive’ service.

So they excluded him because they're "inclusive"?

How 1984 of them.

WE SUPPORT TRANS RIGHTS!

This is an op-ed in a rightwing rag, first of all. It's not news. Anyone calling it news is a troll.

[quote]Wanting to be honest, Jason told Thorne Harbour Health that one major source of anxiety in his life is the inclusion policies of public and private services for gay men in Victoria. Jason has been self-excluding from dating sites, gay bars, and saunas because he is anxious about encountering trans-identified females.

There is no indication that he ever HAD encountered trans in those spaces, or how he was unable to simply block or swipe away trans people on dating apps. He also repeatedly told the clinic that he wanted a counselor who didn't like or treat trans men. This sounds like some kind of political stance or possibly neurosis. He claims he was turned down for service because he doesn't like trans, but it's only his claim.

At the very end of the article, he admits that the clinic told him they didn't refuse him service, it was just that they didn't have a counselor who held the same beliefs about trans that he does.

The rest of the article -- a full 3/4ths of it -- is just the usual anti-trans rhetoric of these kinds of op-eds, including quite a rant about how the clinic this guy applied to wasn't actually inclusive because they didn't have an anti-trans counselor. Basically the ol' "you're intolerant if you don't tolerate my bigotry" argument.

TRAAAAANS!!

Matt, up your meds. Or go cry into your waifu pillow.

[quote] Basically the ol' "you're intolerant if you don't tolerate my bigotry" argument.

R5 Or you're intolerant/a bigot if you don't pander to the delusions and fantasies of others.

[quote] he admits that the clinic told him they didn't refuse him service, it was just that they didn't have a counselor who held the same beliefs about trans that he does.

Much like any cult who will only deign to "help" you if you if you pay lip service to their "beliefs"

Can someone repost the link at OP since the thread is already F&F’d by the tranny mob?

R10 Knock yerself out

Just go back to Breitbart or Daily Caller, R10. You know, your usual hangouts. I'm sure it originates from there anyway.

R12 believes the sign of a "true progressive" is anyone who calls men in dresses "women".

If he was denied care from the phone counseling service for the reasons he claims, that's outrageous. You don't have to agree with everything someone says or believes in order to offer them help. Otherwise, every physician or therapist on earth would be jobless.

It's hard to tell if we're missing critical context since the piece at the link is more editorial than investigative news article. But I'm personally familiar with a few instances of attempted employee overreach at LGBTQ+ health clinics (all-around health, not just mental concerns), so I'd not be shocked if it were true.

Please develop some information literacy, friends.

As I pointed out in R1 and another tasteful friend with reading skills explained in R5, THIS "STORY" IS FAKE. PROPAGANDA.

Yet another thread by the Unfuckable Muppet.

The gays were dumped almost a decade ago with the rise of the homophobic LGBT movement. Old news I'm afraid.

Old Gays, survivors living with AIDS for 40 years HAVE NOT BEEN DUMPED by social services. Give me a break.

This web site is annoying to navigate but it explains how a HIV/AIDS charity morphed into a multi-million dollar, government backed scam. But since AIDS is no longer a death sentence and HIV infections are stable, ACON has to justify its existence (and funding) any way it can. Coming to to a workplace near you soon.

Try again..

[quote]But since AIDS is no longer a death sentence and HIV infections are stable, ACON has to justify its existence (and funding) any way it can

The story of the HRC and many other such organizations after the gay marriage decision.

[quote]"How AIDS charities are erasing gay men"

Didn’t Elton John do this back with Ryan White? I seem to recall him blowing up at the notion that White contracted HIV through gay sex, and I recall John’s response being really uncalled for and homophobic. I was a kid, but I remember this. Because of this, I’ve always held the notion that Elton John was a homophobe, as well as his AIDS charity. I remember something like this happened.

OK, thats. Well that agency should lose it's funding. Who will have the courage to do that? Still, this man was NOT denied service.

Wow, this must be some dangerous stuff for DL to censor it. I say let us, DL's members decide.

Why was this censored?

R22 we all knew where that little harlot got it. We knew.

[quote]Wow, this must be some dangerous stuff for DL to censor it. I say let us, DL's members decide

If you change the slider in settings under "Flames and Freaks" all the way to "Asbestos Eyeballs", R24, the so-called censoring disappears.

You literally do get to decide (mostly) on the level of fuckery you want this site to show you. But if you believe what OP is selling, I'd say you probably should let DL censor stuff for you... because you dumb.

Linking to some Australian right wing TERF site? Yeah, Muriel did the right thing.

[quote] An HIV+ gay man claims to have been denied counselling by an AIDS charity because he openly refuses to include females in his dating life.

Lol. This never happened.

r20 I can't be the only one who appreciates the irony of the organization literally being named [bold]a con[/bold]. You can't make this stuff up.

[quote] Linking to some Australian right wing TERF site?

Awww, do actual women threaten you? You poor incel.

Exactly, r28. The article itself never mentions that happening, it's just in the title. The guy they're talking about just said "I will only see a counselor who doesn't like trans men" and they didn't have a counselor who fit that description so they couldn't serve him. That's the whole story.

PlatonicTrollman knows this isn't censored, he's just working the crowd, trying to make people believe DL is censoring the TRUTH and also FREEDOM and probably PUPPIES too.

r32 It is censored/lined out. Move your flames and freaks settings to the middle. You likely have it set to asbestos eyeballs.

They're not. You just want to pick on other people

WE NEED SOME MOTHERFUCKING MURIEL IN HERE!

[quote]Linking to some Australian right wing TERF site?

Your use of fantasy language like “TERF” tells me you’re delusional and nothing you have to say is worth a piss. So you’re blocked.

And yet, r36, you're a motherfucking TERF.

If you change the slider in settings under "Flames and Freaks" all the way to "Asbestos Eyeballs", [R24], the so-called censoring disappears. You literally do get to decide (mostly) on the level of fuckery you want this site to show you. But if you believe what OP is selling, I'd say you probably should let DL censor stuff for you... because you dumb.

r26 Dumbfuck, I wear Asbestos underwear. Nothing offends me. I'm set for no censorship. The OP is "Too long to copy/paste" and it's lined out.

And I don't know if I buy it or not until I read it.

I suspect you're one of the Hiveminders though. The facts don't matter to you and your ilk of clones. You've already made up your mind without reading it.

[quote] Health promotion is the mechanism by which disease and vulnerability to disease and sickness are placed as part of a larger framework of social justice.

How Canadian. As a broad policy it's insufficient just to treat sickness and disorder. We must first focus on woke ideology.

[quote]The OP is "Too long to copy/paste" and it's lined out.

r38 Check your settings again, man. The cookies on this site are weird and if you leave sometimes your settings reset back to default.

At least that's been my experience.