Gay men and antiques, why ?

Dead people’s things… 🤮

That chair is fucking awesome! 60 bucks you got a steal, especially in that good of a condition.

Why I love antiques? Cos modern stuff is shit and boring as fuck, all plain and square and uglier than Trumps butt. I would furnish my entire place with High Victorian furniture if I could

Are you sure that's not a reproduction, OP? It's beautiful, either way. Go you!

It's $60, OP, not 60$.

[quote] That chair is fucking awesome!

it's not the one I bought, but I post the pic because it's very similar, except crimson and not blue. The needle point is also different , of course, but in that kind of condition. I stare at it in awe, I don't understand why it was so inexpensive. it's the bargain of all time

How nice for you, OP. Hope it doesn’t have bugs.

[quote] Are you sure that's not a reproduction,

yes, it's the real thing, fabric, nails, stitching ,the work is incredible, no doubt about that. My guess is it was left in a stairway , or a corridor, and not used, but well maintained and dusted. It's as firm as a quaterback's ass. yeah, I thought about that too R6, I disinfected with an officially approved bedbug disinfectant as soon as I was home.

"Have we found a treasure?"

I would strip it down. Stain it ebony. And reupholster it with white leather.

R9, I know, but it's so incredible to see the work, 150 years later, in such a great condition. That velvet ! I don't want to be the one who tears it apart.

Why? No kids means you don't have to child-proof your place. And no kids also means you've got the time and money to collect. And maybe your treasures become surrogates for the kids you don't have.

ahem...R11...I...do have kids

"And Dad's using up all our inheritance to buy a bunch of junky old furniture. Crypto would be a better investment."

I'm afraid my tchotches will BE te only inheritance

Nobody wants brown furniture anymore.

Gay men have good taste, always have and probably always will.

I don't get it, I want my living space to be comfortable and practical first, to cost no more than is reasonable second, and looks are a tertiary concern. I guess my masculine side only comes out in my taste in decor!

I don't fault anyone who buys antiques or who has a collection of something, I just don't get the attraction.

R17, that's why I started this thread

OP why are you wearing so many petticoats that you need a slipper chair?

People of whatever persuasion who collect know it's the hunt that drives them, along with the satisfaction of winning at a good price. Then a few weeks later it's forgotten and the hunt resumes for something new that's old.

r19 because I'm a precious little flower

I actually need a slipper chair to sit in the lotus position , R19

Nothing could be interpreted as group psychology for gay men who collect antiques as it's rather a personal diversion. Maybe, it's about you, OP, trying to collect the pieces of your ancient self.

mmmmmmm. interesting R23. very interesting. I'm impressed.

Awful bit of clunk.

aw, R25...okay...(what will you think about the rest of the place, then ?)

Well done, OP. I love antiques as well. Don't all gays?

(quote] Don't all gays?

by this thread, no, sir. Apparently it's also not "masculine".

How long has it been since someone described you as MASC, OP?

All gays love antiques when they spot that magnificent piece they can't afford.

not that long ago in fact. but it was more about my looks than my manner. I think I might be a bit effeminate

I just can’t avoid something that is totally unique

I like the decor of the rich modern gays. The aesthetic is sleek and clean and without clutter.

But unfortunately their homes are usually devoid of warmth and charm.

Have to find the "happy medium".

Too many antique pieces can quickly go "overboard" and it can look like someone raided their grandma's basement.

R33 that's my problem. I look at my home sometimes and think "who's the elderly widow lady who lives here???" also it might scare Mr grindrguy away. When I pull hot young guys, the only come once (pun intended).only the guys in their forties and up tend to call for an encore.

The entire antique furniture thing isn't particularly popular anymore and prices have dropped if not straight-up plummeted in most markets.

I'm still holding onto my beanie babies.

We buy it because nobody else wants it and its inexpensive and better made than almost everything today. Also we homos can very quickly and easily imagine the past people and decor and lifestyles every piece represents. Here's an example: when I was in college, why did I buy exquisite silver mint julep cups? You can be sure I served mint juleps to my friends on campus but it's silly, really. Why did I buy a pristine antique toboggan with leather pads? Well we used it. So why not? rinse repeat many thousands of times in my life.

I grew up in a house filled with antiques in New England. My parents were collectors of Early American stuff. As an adult I found that this is what looks like "real furniture" to me and I became a collector myself.

R35...That's makes it nicer for antique collectors, who don't care about the trends, but enjoy their collections. Less money than 30 and 40 years ago, when it was at the height of popularity. Thanks to magazines like Country Living and Country Home back then.

You know what's fun? When you go thrifting or bric a bracing or antiquing and you're in a charity shop that reliably gets good stuff. And you kind of get known. And you've put a plain cream colored beautiful wedgewood coffee service on the counter so you can shop some more, and its only 40 bucks. And there's a Haus Frau the same age as you and she knows you have a great eye and are a cocksucking homo, and she sees that coffee service and is RED WITH RAGE that you are getting it for 40 bucks when its worth several hundred, and she tries to sabotage the deal because THIS FAG SIMPLY CANNOT USE THAT COFFEE SERVICE and its TOO CHEAP and the cocksucker is BUYING ALL THE GOOD STUFF!!!

eek! Wedgwood® no e

Jasperware^^

Belgians and Greeks do it!/ Nice young men who sell antiques do it!/ Let's do it, let's fall in love!

R40 but how does she know you're a cocksucking homo ? did she know you before ? is she your neighbor/sister/co-worker ? you need to give us more

How do they know? They know! The homo is the one who walks into the charity shop and within10 minutes knows every treasure available.

Love me some fine collectibles! Interior design is not a hobby but a passion.

do you guys know the cute antique shop at the end of the rue de Daguerre in paris, owned by that hot daddy ? I don't know what happened, but I was window shopping, and next thing I know, I was sucking his cock in the arriere boutique.

Did you get a discount?

I didn't buy anything. Somebody entered the store, a bell rang , and we quickly re-adjusted ourselves

The only Wedgwood I like is Fairyland Lustre...

It's a fairly small, if committed and consistent, subset of gays. It's a stereotype that has some basis, but again, it's really not that big a percentage of gays.

how much would you say R51 ?

I recently bought a Georgian silver paper knife with a mother-of-pearl handle to open the bills I can't afford to pay.

good for you R53, better be poor with style

I bought a vintage solid silver telephone dialer, then realized I don't own a rotary phone!! Silly me!

So, I put it up my butt!

Because gay men appreciate beautiful things that have a history.

Throw a slab of magnificent Italian black marble on anything and I'm in.

Many of us are childless so we become care takers. I love your chair choice, OP. The slipper shape is timeless and looks upscale.

R53 What a waste. Everyone knows that when you can't pay your bills you just don't open them.

Oh the fraus know, they're trying to go "thrifting" not because they love antiques but so they won't have to get real jobs and go to work.

The homos are younger, stronger and faster (and have more money). It drives the lazy fraus INSANE.

R58 And many others, like the OP, become chair-takers.

Ive actually had women follow me around the store eyeing stuff in my buggy hoping I will put them back. Sometimes just for giggles I'll stand and act like Im really reconsidering on that Mount Vernon sterling cake plate marked $3. I;ll take it out,look at it,set in on the shelf,pick it back up ,etc. It drives them crazy,and of course i never actually not buy it. I think we love antiques because they offer a sense of permanence.That something in our lives will lastlong past the lovers and friends and family.Plus when I started antiquing back in the 70s it was dirt cheap and you could really furnish your place in high style for little money.Lord the gorgeous stuff thats passed thru my hands over the years.

Because “mantique”.

Miss R62 = truly a hero for sad antiquing queens everywhere.

If you are interested in an existential way? Some writers and scholars of gay culture and history have opined that it is part of our cosmological makeup. It is why gay men have often been in in the archives, museums, record-keeping, and cultural preservation of so many civilizations around the world going back thousands of years. Check out Judy Grahn's Another Mother Tongue for examples.

Blake and Rufus are kvetching about the attention OP is getting for his "slipper chair".

"Oh how nice for you. It really wouldn't suit our personal style. I believe my mother was offered a similar chair on a trip to Turkey, but she refused it."

OP, not antiques but a few years ago I was waiting for a prescription and wandered into the Homegoods store. Looking through the section of odds and ends china and other stuff, and I spot these small silver birds- 3 were the same, 2 different. They were $15 each.I look on the bottom and they were Buccellati sterling!

$650-$1200 each, retail. I have no idea how they ended up there. How many people didn't even recognize a silver stamp? In any case, I use them to decorate my table for Easter.

For weeks after, I went by but never saw any more.

I would elbow and shove a few people to snag a bargain priced service of Buccellati Tahiti in bamboo. It would be at least 5x more chic than my Jean Dubost olive wood, which of course I unearthed for a pittance.

R66 Blake and Rufus couldn't possibly be jealous of my little thread, when they're DL legends

like these R67 ?

I hope the fact that I am seething with envy, R67. makes your birds even more precious to you.

I collect books, I am the saddest of the antique gays.

An elderly antique dealer lady sold me a cute french nightlight for $100. I took it home, unscrewed the bottom, and saw that A.Becquerel signature

Antiques are usually made better, better quality...have character and uniqueness....and have a sense of history of a nicer, simpler time. They have details that aren't done anymore....even in the most mundane functional objects, like kitchenware and woodworking tools. Take a look at them, the construction, details (sometime decorative) and quality is not matched today. I would proudly display them.

You must not be in a major metro area. Every decent antique in the Northeast is $500+. The days of finding “steals” in antiques are long gone. OfferUp is the only place I’ve found good deals - because it stays out of the hands of “dealer markup”.

I do think the gay aesthetic eye - most of us appreciate beauty more than average - is what drives us to like antiques, old houses and things of beauty that most people don’t appreciate.

Second biggest city in my state R74

And it was a dealer? Kudos OP. I’ve looked in rural Northeast for years and never had luck finding anything worthwhile for less than $500.

I don't understand why it was so inexpensive.

Because they couldn't sell it at full price.

Remember when Jean Claude Van Dam said he wasn't offended that gay men appreciated his looks because they like beautiful things R74?

R51 It’s also a shrinking subset of gays. I’m not certain what the younger generations of gay men are into these days, but it certainly isn’t antiques.

[quote] And it was a dealer

I know. I was so embarrassed I almost brought it back to her. She's about to close shop, she told me she was getting too old and scared, being alone in that store. She had no idea what it was, but she thought it was cute. She told me to also choose something else, and she would offer me a nice cut, because I was a regular. Maybe she has dementia. I pick a beautiful "chocolatiere" (also french circa 1900) and gave her $40

Gay Men And COCKS , Why?

What’s the psychological issue?

Thanks for your homophobic contribution to this thread R81, lady Frau

R79 Come to Hudson, NY for an example. The town was re-made by hard-working gay men in the late 80s and 90s who drifted up from NYC and transformed Hudson from a near abandoned cracktown to more or less a destination. The main attraction? Antique shops and dealers. It boomed in the 00’s as a collectors hotspot. Gays galore. People were coming here and definitely buying antiques.

Now? Graveyard storefronts. Elderly shop owners. Everyone complaining or closing up and leaving town. The young gay men coming to Hudson for its “basic” hipness and selfie opportunities aren’t coming for antiques.

Beautiful! Congratulations. And you should have added good taste to the poll.

R84 thanks. and , well ? I can't

[quote] you should have added good taste

, can I ? (I secretly think that I have the most exquisite taste)

Hopewell, NJ and Lambertville, NJ have nice antique shops....and not everything is a fortune. They have higher prices, too...but you can find something nice that's pretty affordable.

Why do you use an image from the internet, OP? Why not a pic of your’s.

Brown furniture is about to start coming back. Mark my words.

R87 I don't know how to do that

R71 I have you beat, I collect vintage children’s books.

They’re our children.

There are some bargains to be found at 2nd and 3rd tier port cities. The old collectors and dealers are mostly dead, or stay in the capitals. Hôtel des Ventes de Monte-Carlo, Cambi Auction House - Genoa, etc. Remember with Hudson NY in its apex was selling very common Venini lustres for 10K 20K 30K? Well the prices on location are 1/10th. People think Barovier & Toso, Venini, etc is so "artisanal" but my impression is the annual production of their "hits" were many many thousands per year for decades in mid 20th century.

I was just saying to Mother that Venini is so artisanal!

Chair looks comfortable & in good condition, esp. for $60. I guess wheels or casters were normal for those chairs.

There is no picture of OP's chair in this thread. Or, did I miss it?

Quite honestly, the old stuff is just made better (with the possible exception of STICKLEY)... If you get it all reupholstered, the smell is gone, and you essentially have new stuff.

It's in OP's post, r95.

Quel surprise that you can't read, R97? For example R5. That's not his chair.

As OP explained, r98...

[quote]it's not the one I bought, but I post the pic because it's very similar, except crimson and not blue. The needle point is also different , of course, but in that kind of condition. I stare at it in awe, I don't understand why it was so inexpensive. it's the bargain of all time

R94 is commenting about the condition of the chair in the pic, which is NOT OP's chair.

If I post a picture of a room at George 5, and say it is quite similar to my current room at Hôtel Ritz, are you doing to say about that George 5 room - "wow, that is a beautiful room at Hôtel Ritz!"?

Everybody commenting on what a beautiful chair it is, is basing that on the the pic of the similar chair, r100.

Alrighty then. That makes sense.

What do you think of the house I just bought?

OP, your chair might be haunted and the shop owner priced it to sell to get rid of it.

"Gay men have good taste, always have and probably always will."

So, how do you explain OP's 'slipper' chair?

I remember R72 from the thread he started when he had a crisis of conscience over the lamp and getting it for a bargain.

Looks like that conscience has been soothed...or ignored!

R70, yes those are the silver birds. Mine aren't from the 50s, obviously.

Why not? I have always lived with old things and always lived in old houses and old apartment buildings. My graduate studies were in the history of architecture and furniture. It has always been an interest.

I'm not a hoarder. I like a spare look with lots of space between things. I don't really collect in the way that a stamp collector fills album after album; I have furniture and things to furnish where I live, look good, and make me happy. Historic architecture, antique furniture, a few modern pieces, and a mix of paintings by dead, very long dead, and living artists.

People who like antiques aren't easily lumped together: there are knowledgeable connoisseurs; collectors who like quantity; inveterate thrifty bitches who can't resist the hunt and can't pass something up because it's worth so much more than they paid (nevermind that they don't particularly like or have a use for the thing). There are people with very narrow, refined interests; magpies who like shiny things; and those who want everything old or maybe everything new except those one or two antique things for which they make the exception.

It's interesting what people want to buy. My grandmother kept all of her parents furniture, china, silver etc. Those things were from 1875 on. My mom did the same. When my brother and I got our first places, we went "shopping" at my mom's storage units and pretty much furnished our places.

A few years ago, I was helping my mom with her bills and we totaled up the storage unit costs- $92k. We decided to have an estate sale.

Everything that sold was what I would consider MCM. My kids Drexel desk, dressers and bedframe from the 60s went first.

All of the lovely crystal and china, and silver pretty much was ignored. Most people just don't entertain like that anymore.

I noticed the same thing when I went to Barbara Rush 's sale awhile ago.

At least we consolidated 3 storage units into 1.

^people want "mid -century" stuff now; My mother has a collection of entire sets of fine china from three generations, wedding presents, that kind of sets. nobody wants them, my sisters don't want them. They're basic bitches. I took three plates from the fabulous Rousseau service in old Paris of my great-great-grandmother, to hang on the kitchen wall, because they're museum quality, and a few silver art-nouveau knives and forks, But my home is already fully furnished. the rest will go down the drain (= china perhaps, by way of auction). Sad

R110 Were there any chargers?

" I have always lived with old things"

Joel, just hold on in there, R108.

[quote] Were there any chargers?

such as ?

You can sell silver but the other stuff even thrift stores sometimes turn away. I sold my grandmother's silver to a jeweler who was having it melted down. My mother was horrified but I told her repeatedly that I didn't want it and she foisted it upon me anyway. I tried to give her the money (a few hundred) and she wouldn't take it, just carried on about how could I do that. Told her I was hardcore.

I wouldn't have them melted. they're beautiful. My mother will rather see them in yellow hands than destroyed

R113 It’s a callback to the Marlo Thomas for William Sonoma thread, where some dumb rube didn’t know what a charger was.

Oh OK, I didn't read that thread. Just wondred by the pic if the name "Matrlo Thomas " was code for Faye Dunaway

I am so fucking sick of MCM. A friend bought a second place in Palm Springs, and it is hideous. It has the requisite SHAG print, a Keane painting, vile I Dream of Jeannie lamps, every crappy 50s/60s abstract painting she could find (matching colors to the furniture), a reproduction Sputnik chandelier, just awful.

Some PS magazine recently featured people in their living rooms including her and her mom, maybe 50 and most of them looked identical. So much of that crap was ugly back then. I don't get it. Oh, and those crappy "Spanish" influenced credenzas.

R118 You must abhor Paul Evans work.

you punishment for having frau friends R118

She isn't a frau, and most of the couples are gay. There's a reason I haven't been to Palm Springs in 20 years.

I appreciate the craftsmanship of antiques and admire them in museums and historic sites. But I live in a mostly unfurnished apartment with as much customized built-in or concealed furniture as possible and no art on the walls or any color (save for my desk, which is a rather striking 960s metal design). I love certain forms of art and design but find living with them distracting. I do have hundreds of books, however.

[quote] I love certain forms of art and design but find living with them distracting.

Distracting from what, exactly?

Most of my stuff is hand-me-downs from my parents, grandparents, and in some case great-grandparents, so they qualify as antiques, or will someday—everything is an antique eventually. But I doubt any of it is valuable; they had reasonably good taste but not a lot of money. I've had most of the furniture reupholstered or refinished.

How old does something have to be before it's an antique? My grandmother always said 60 years.

I have a 1992 Sotheby's catalogue for the estate of Charles Hathaway and Hubert de Saint Senoch, they apparently met in 1944 during Liberation, Charles Hathaway was from Brooklyn. The catalogue is filled with great things, they met a lot of the literary and artistic figures in Paris, their collection included the works of many artists, and a lot of portraits of both of them Here is a portrait of Saint Senoch by Cocteau.

My granmother left me a little Picasso pottery, that I sold when I was young. now I want to bang my head against a wall when I think about it. Youth is wasted on the young.

Mlle. Saint Senoch appears to have had resting bitch face.

Mlle Saint Senoch

[quote]How old does something have to be before it's an antique? My grandmother always said 60 years.

R124: The generally accepted (sometimes legal) definition is 100 years.

It’s old gay men

not all. see all these british poofters in their crummy little cottages ? they love antiques too.

It's too bad modern Americans move so often and have to always get rid of stuff. I'm so jealous of old aristocratic families with huge mansions, especially in England, where they sometimes have centuries of beautiful things saved, many in attic rooms. I was just reading somewhere how someone found an old small box in one of these places with the label "bits of old string". If your house is big enough, you can save everything!

I rejected antiques but now have an older house that is perfect for them. I’m trying to find <$1,000 pieces of good quality and it is IMPOSSIBLE. There are few true local dealers left.. Etsy owners and online sites ask insane prices for crap. Wish I could find a well priced antique store in PA

R133 you should hit upscale estate sales. They do exist,and you can get lovely quality things for practically nothing. Im using linens Ive bought over the years and they are so soft you'd have to shoot me to get them. My favorite ones are trimmed in hand tatted lace. In many of those larger homes the family has already taken what they want and dont need the money so much. My best girlfriend picked up this exquisite custom made circular couch 15 years ago,down filled in a gorgeous tapestry fabric. Shes raised 2 kids ,countless pets and a slob husband on it and it still looks as fantastic as the day she bought it.

Veneer!

I think I'm wishing for a more beautiful and decorative life. Wanting to live in Brideshead or a house from Bridgerton. We went to the Bronx Zoo yesterday, and I was looking at the cast animal faces on the older buildings. For a minute I could picture olde timey people walking around there. Nice stuff is just nice. The beauty and the details are nice.

I am a bit frau-y and don't want a real job, you're right. But I can find the good stuff as quickly as anyone else. I don't follow anyone. I found what I think is a silver-handled cheese server from Denmark in a thrift shop in New Jersey today. It's not that old because the blade is stainless. It could be plate but I don't think so. I have to polish it up and look up the marks. That's kind of a thrill though, as you guys have said. To walk in and find the best thing in there. It was in a baggy of nasty utensils and a corkscrew and stuff for $1.50. My husband asked what I wanted with that bag and I pulled out the Danish piece.

Anyway, I'd love to drink from silver julip cups at a summer party by the old buildings at the Bronx Zoo, and serve cheese with my silver server, and hang out with a bunch of you guys.

I won't stop until I copy Mr. & Mrs. Norman Maine's beach house decor exactly.

R136 Ive pulled plenty of sterling out of thrift store grab bags. I once found 42 pieces of hallmarked English silverware for $20. I had to force my hands to stop shaking as I paid. I agree with you,use the stuff. I do and if it gets damaged oh well.

Did little Miss Cari Cucksey really get those big spenders at her estate sales?

[quote]I had to force my hands to stop shaking as I paid.

They're gonna realize, they're gonna realize...

[quote]What do you think of the house I just bought?

I think you've got a huge mold problem on your hands.

Falling Water?

More like "Rising Dampness"

R138, I've posted on this thread already but both my great and grandmother collected china and crystal. My grandmother set a beautiful table, even for breakfast and used everything. She always said, Who better to break it than me?

"I had to force my hands to stop shaking as I paid."

MARY!

You've obviously never been there, r143.

[quote]I've pulled plenty of sterling out of thrift store grab bags. I once found 42 pieces of hallmarked English silverware for $20. I had to force my hands to stop shaking as I paid. I agree with you,use the stuff. I do and if it gets damaged oh well.

Similar to R138, in college I found a large wooden box filled with black with tarnish Philadelphia coin silver at a yard sale marked Antiques in some gritty SE Pennsylvania town. There was some middling stuff of the period worth $60 - $80 each at the time, but about a third were good place pieces by sought after makers. As I pulled it from under the skirt of a table, the vendor told me it was $10. "Each, or the box?," I asked alert to the bargain. "Oh, for the box." When she had my money in hand, she reached over a grabbed a piece and offered some after-sale advice: "Look honey, this stuff is pretty but its all silverplate...see, not one of these pieces says STERLING." She was right about the marking, but American silver wasn't stamped STERLING until about 1855 or 1860; it was all 18thC and early 19thC "coin silver" with the maker's marks but not indication of the silver content as was usual.

I gave her my telephone number in case she found any more, but no luck. I had to do with 80-some pieces from the box under the table skirt that a collector had assembled in the early 20thC. I sold most of it off to good dealers through college and pocketed a few thousand, keeping a few favorites for many years.

Don’t make fun of my dating choices! I like my steak dinners and summers in Suagatuck. Sometimes we have to do what it best!

Fag!

Appreciating antiques requires a certain amount of intelligence that the general population does not possess

Oh bull, R148. It's like any other hobby, like serious gardening or birding or woodworking or tinkering with cars, being good at it requires a wide knowledge base that most people have no use for.

Now of course becoming an expert in a useless subject appeals more to intelligent people than stupid ones, but someone who can sniff out a hidden treasure in garage sale because they know when sterling silver started being stamped isn't smarter than a blue-collar gearhead who'll go on for hours about the differences between every pickup truck ever made if you'll let him, he's just an expert in a different useless subject. No need to be snobby about it.

R149 has STATED HER BOUNDARIES

Sometimes it's just having an "eye" for a certain aesthetic....what you like. It's not always looking for a big value item among more common pieces. You see something you like, even though it may not be antique...it may be vintage, or not particularly old...but very cool per your taste. Mixing old with new makes it more interesting. You buy what you like. Somehow, it all works.

You don't have to spend a lot of money...even cheaper items can be interesting.

R151, thanks, nice that you contributed, but the subject was gays and antiques, not "buy whatever you like"

🙄^^

Sorry OP that chair is hideous to me, there I said it, it looks like someone was on crack when they made it, I'm thinking a nasty Russian oligarch would love it.

Well R155 that's your opinion and this is a forum, so welcome and thanks. Mine is actually black, of the wood frame, only the feet are visible, they don't have casters the velvet is a dark crimson, it doesn't have buttons, and the embroidery is much prettier.

That sounds very nice OP. Congrats on the find.

Slipper chairs like that it OP's illustration are worth much less today than in the late 1970s - 1980s when the Victorian period enjoyed peak popularity among antiques collectors. At the same time historic preservation and the attentive restoration of historic details was at peak popularity, with endless books and magazines and TV shows on the subject -- contrast that with today's insistence on gut renovations that leave at best only a small vestige 9f anything old or authentic.

Victorian antiques were always a distinct subset, but at the time it seemed fairly unfathomable that someone might restore a Victorian house and not have at least a few choice furniture pieces of the same period.

Slipper chairs are an odd form, used as bedroom furniture for dressing and also designated as a feminine form: very low to the ground, the seat barely off the floor, without arms or with minimal arms. They don't find an easy way into modern use patterns these chairs that put your ass inches above the floor and your knees high in front of young. They were always a bargain furniture form because they were considered more decorative than useful

[QUOTE] more decorative than useful

that's probably the reason why mine is in such a pristine condition. I use it for morning meditation so , perfect shape for a lotus position

R145 Exactly my story.the people marking didnt know anything other than "sterling" .I pulled so much foreign silver out of there till someone wised up. One day I was in there picking thru a stack of Rogers silverplate bowls (wich Im sure you know are innumerable in the wild) and noticed one huge bowl that looked and felt differently. $5 and I was sold.Got it home,it turned out to be Egyptian solid silver and I sold it for $1200 a week later. In the 90s that was serious cash! Ive also still got a few pieces out of my 42 piece find,but long ago sold the set on. I love these threads because not one person in my life shares the love of antiques. I dont get much of a chance to discuss them IRL.

R160 you're more than welcome to discuss them here, sweetheart

[quote] My granmother left me a little Picasso pottery, that I sold when I was young. now I want to bang my head against a wall when I think about it. Youth is wasted on the young.

My understanding is that Picasso made a ton of pottery, too much, almost. Not every piece costs a fortune.

[quote] My mother has a collection of entire sets of fine china from three generations, wedding presents, that kind of sets. nobody wants them, my sisters don't want them. They're basic bitches. I took three plates from the fabulous Rousseau service in old Paris of my great-great-grandmother, to hang on the kitchen wall, because they're museum quality[] ... But my home is already fully furnished. the rest will go down the drain (= china perhaps, by way of auction). Sad

Why couldn't you swap out your collection for your mother's collection? So what if your "home is already fully furnished." You call your sisters "basic bitches" for not taking the collection, yet you didn't think enough of the collection to take it, either.

my sisters are basic bitches regardless of the collection, that's is just what they are, generally. A fat crazy frau, and a tough, nasty little B. I like my own things, I use them everyday, my mother's are dated and would just sit in a cupboard + she didn't offer to give them to me, she gave me quite enough already. The fab service Rousseau was something like 300 pieces, it's been split between aunts, cousins, etc

British Antique Shop Soap.Genius.

Hand of God

[R4] This mistake always makes me cringe but it's becoming so common now, even among smart people, that maybe it will just be accepted as norm? Kinda like how we don't really correct"nuke-you-ler" as the pronunciation of nuclear anymore.

okay okay, I corrected meself, what can I say ? $60, $60

^ Is that just for the blow job?

You look like a gal who enjoys getting fucked too.

sure do R169, sure do

btw, since you cringe so easily, R157, you just need to typr "R" and the number. double brackets be cringey

it is time to speak of unspoken things

^ a must watch for the antiques lover