Gay men - did you ever wish you were a woman?

I spent a lot of High School thinking that if only I were a SuperHero, I could solve lots of problems in society.

Not just a woman, but one who is irresistible to the object of my affection.

So I could HAVE him.

Not at all. Not once.

Of course when I was really young I didn't know you were allowed to feel like this. My solution was going to be I'd have to knock people out or something so I could look at their naked bodies. This was like REALLY young. I didn't even know what sex was but I wanted to see men naked.

Yes to get straight guys

Yes. When I was younger, I wished I had been born a woman because I couldn’t deal with being gay and the rejection of men I had crushes on. When I was really little I imagined myself as a woman.

But I wasn’t trans, it was self-hatred and an escapism within my head of rejecting reality of being different.

Which is why I understand what’s going on in this trans boom and why I think it’s the same bullshit I went through and not actually being trans.

You've obviously never known many women if you think you would have had an easier life.

☝🏼 they have it easier than gay men

The only time I’ve wished I was a woman is when I’ve seen one with her hot boyfriend or husband. Then I remember it’d be easier to wish the hot boyfriend or husband was gay.

At frat keggers yeah, bra and panties off, letting the hotties have me!

Not just a woman. A slutty woman.

R6 If I was a woman, by now I’d probably be a hairdresser with my own suite, divorced from one of the many successful straight guys I knew, with a kid in my own house collecting probably 3k a month in child support and paying the mortgage with it.

Not having access to straight men financially has been my only road block. And I know this based on the women I know. I know plenty of divorced women living comfortably in houses they did not earn. There’s not enough gay men for those opportunities.

Nope. Sorry.

Hello!! Yes and no! To R3, I agree with what you typed. I had the same thoughts at age 6, 7 and 8 yrs. old. I had" knock-out situations" in my head, in which the teenager was helpless& I could "violate him" with my mouth. I played that game with Buddy McGuire in East Falls (RavenHill). He kept saying "Why ain't u a girl, why don't girls do that to me" Buddy, girls want to get married& u don't marry girls like that!! Buddy was 19 yrs old, I was 9 yrs. old. He was a "natural blonde with the dark brown roots(red undertone)" Buddy graduated from Penn. I showed Buddy how to use poppers (from BC from the Flyers). It was 1973.

Look at a Datalounge favorite-

Valerie Bertinelli

From 15/16 years old until she was about 40 or so

Lots of good looking men were attracted to her. Now she is over the hill and FAT and MISERABLE 😖

I don't like getting fucked much, but I have often wondered what it would feel like having a pussy. Not a trannie one, but one that is natural and really works. I don't want no babies or anything, just wondering what a female orgasm felt like.

Good God no. The very thought sends shudders down my spine.

I was wondering the same thing about you, OP.

Being a woman is not easy. It requires too many accouterments & adornments.

I never wished I was a woman, but I did wish I had the balls to be a whore.

Fuck no.

No, but I wish I had a secret pussy as cleaning out is a big chore.

Hell, no. I can pee anyplace I want, all I need is a bush or a dumpster for modesty

OP will you just go away. We know you are either: a MAGAT troll, or a Westboro Baptist Church troll....................0.00/10

You're as tiresome as the freaks you name, R23.

r24 I saw a need...

no.

I refuse to believe that gay men desire to be women nor think of themselves as a woman while being penetrated or while penetrating another as is the prevailing theory in both queer studies, feminist studies and the radical right.

So, I'll be confiscating the toasters of all those that believe so.

r24 the jt leroys need to leave.

r27 amen

Yes and I’d spread my legs far and wide. There’s tons of straight dick and heterosexual men aren’t picky. My pussy would be BIG and WET!

Why be a fish when you can be a Great White Shark?

😂 Most straight men can barely take care of themselves much less a family. They absolutely need for their wife to work in order for their family to remain in the middle class. Some husbands and wives rely on family to help with childcare and other expenses. So basically, people don't have the money or lifestyle you think they have or portray on social media.

R19- I'm a FAT whore.

Does that give me BALLS?

According to the science, men are visual for arousal and women are more tactile. It’s all fucked up! We weren’t meant to reproduce?

Not once in my long life.

R18 Being an UGLY woman is terrible.....but being a somewhat attractive woman comes with lots of privileges......

....And there's always plastic surgery. Men are willing to give up billions of dollars for good pussy..

R36- She looks TRANS

While life would be easier to be straight

I like being a man

Yes.

@r36, First wife same dress, looks 10X better. Bezos must be into some kinky shit that MacKenzie wasn't going to do

Until ten years ago I used to joke my dream job was rich Republican's first wife. But now they're so awful I switched to king of the United Kingdom. More work and less freedom, but that's Republicans these days for ya.

"Gay men - did you ever wish you were a woman?"

Gay men insist on 'no!' and then imitate Beyonce at her 'fiercest', call each other 'gurl' or 'sistah' and lip sync to every single word of Now Voyager, pluck their eyebrows to a thin line, mince and lisp.

But no, they'll insist they have no desire to be a woman!

^ Imitating for fun and being for real are light years apart. Just because Gay men have "sensibilities" doesn't mean we want to lose our dick for whatever that mess between your legs is called

Hell no. I love my balls too much.

^ You're the only one 😏

^ ^ ^ Wishes he was a woman.

^^^ IS a woman... or a 3-day old tuna fish sandwich 🤢

Absolutely not! I like being a man.

Yes. All the time.

When I was 8 and I thought I was a dead ringer for Olivia Physical

R5, there's no "trans boom" - only .6% of people identify as trans

It's also pretty funny how people here bash transwomen while fantasizing about being women. And bash transwomen for wanting to sleep with straight men while stating they want to be women so they can sleep with straight men 🤣 😂

R11, studies show women do worse than men financially when they get divorced

R51 Fantasy is not the same as reality.

No, never.

When I played video games as a kid, I’d often play as a female character, and I don’t know exactly why. I think a lot of gay boys do. But in real life? No. I’m very happy with my cock and balls.

R51 That statistic is like 5 years old.

It’s 1.6% and growing.

Nope. Never.

Life is hard enough as it is.

No way. Not ever. I love being a man as much as I love being gay. There are some disadvantages to being gay (the smaller dating pool, for one) but they never had me wishing I were a woman.

Not gay, but yes. I think I would be a lot happier as a woman.

r59 I'll make you my woman.

R59 is a tranny

No, but I always get so ANGRY when I see a hot guy with a fish. These poor men need to be rescued, but they always end up going back to that smelly old stink trap.

R62 have you noticed how a hot straight guy is never alone? There’s always a fish clinging to him physically. It’s sickening and should be banned.

Yes, 63. And the fish is often fat and loud. It’s so gross.

There's a difference between wanting to be a woman and wanting what woman have: social approbation, attention from straight men, and usually overall, compared to gay men, just an easier time of things etc etc.

I’ve at times wondered what it’d be like to have a great rack.

Yeah, you all want the pussy...

but nobody wants to deal with the "odor"

R61 I'm not trans. Trans people believe they were born in the wrong body. I just wish I was born in the opposite body.

R67, but "odor" is part of attraction for straight men. Granny always used to say that men are like dogs.

^ Your granny never smelled Cheryl's pussy.

[quote]Yeah, you all want the pussy... but nobody wants to deal with the "odor"

Asshole smells so much better.

No way. No desire for the high maintenance, or odor, of a cooch.

A few times as a young adult, but being surrounded by women, I saw how much fucking work it was. This is why I tip my hat to MTF trans people. If you're gonna do it right, it takes a shit ton of work and isn't always the most comfortable. Having to get your hair done, fake eyelashes, all that makeup, hose, heels, etc. It's a lot.

R72 Because the odor of your shithole is so incredible

I at one time thought I'd like to experience being a woman for a day or two just to see what they go through. Breasts and vagina and feeling how a woman has multiple orgasms while men get only one big bang, being fucked by a man, seeing who was attracted to me walking down the street. I never wanted to wear women's clothing, but I always envied women in the summertime who could wear skirts and have that breeze go up and cool them off while I had to wear slacks. That's about it. Two days and I'd been satisfied. Back to being a gay man.

Better than yours, skank, and mine isn’t connected to a worse smelling front hole and held together by a thread.

I would actually like to know what it's like to be multi-orgasmic. Does it really feel that good to have your pussy licked? Seems like most women prefer that to penetration.

[quote] I'm not trans. Trans people believe they were born in the wrong body. I just wish I was born in the opposite body.

r68 Interesting distinction. But many trans think their body is fine, but they just prefer the opposite gender role.

I couldn't help but wonder, is the feeling of getting your pussy licked the same as getting your ahole licked...?!

[quote] is the feeling of getting your pussy licked the same as getting your ahole licked...?!

r79 Obviously not unless you have a clit up your ass.

R79 I believe that the sensation would be closer to when you are having your dick sucked.

Never, OP. Not once. And I'm old.

I wish I was a girlie like my dear mama

The female human (woman) created the human male (man) to delight her in fucking as a good way to perpetuate the human species. Don’t forget that the female human grows the male fetus (penis and scrotum) within her womb as a creation to further the human species. To make procreation delightful…Otherwise, the human female could make the human male in the form of a tree that she could fuck and find pleasurable to preserve the human race. GAY males is a natural consequence of female sexual preferences.

The female mammal creates their make mate to their sexual liking. I don’t have scientific proof, but it seems logical by observing the rest of species that reproduce male/female.

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and fraus wonder why gay men would ever want a place free of their ilk

from their feminist theories to their queer theories

lacking even a rudimentary understanding of biology

just packing the belief that everything, everyone, must be obsessed with them

I envy how many choices they have with their appearance, with clothing, makeup, jewellery, hair, and still retain their identity as female. Men have far fewer options to express individuality or creativity, and still look masculine.

I also envy that they can freely express emotions, ie, crying in front of others, and not be shamed or ridiculed.

I envy that they don't have to go through time-consuming preparations, hygiene-wise, before having sex. They are always good to go.

Other than that, no. God made me a man and a man I will be.

Don’t forget that women don’t know the size of the dick when she fucks a man. It’s always a surprise and too late to change her mind. Also, women don’t know the man’s hygiene in an impromptu fuck: cheese head and shit-flaked, stink man ass nor cheese smelling, funky balls. Tit for tat.

Nope. I had times where I wished I was straight, but I never wanted to be a woman.

I don't think it's because I see being male as easier, I just accept that's what I am and have no issues with it.

Now I've accepted my sexuality I don't wish to be anything other than what I am. It's a waste of time anyway.

Yeah. Being a woman is way more interesting.

Yes, as a young child I asked to be called by female names, preferred to watch movies with female protagonists, wanted to wear dresses and have long hair, only made friends with girls. I liked to imitate Glenn Close as Cruella DeVil. I never had any desire to cut off my penis, never had any desire to have a vagina or breasts, it was just the look of the clothing and hair that attracted me. Though one time my dad told me I couldn't do something because I had a penis so I threatened to cut it off to prove a point. I had no idea that sex changes existed. I think I definitely would have been sucked into the trans ideology if I were a child today. That feeling gradually faded but I still have a sort of female spirit living inside me, though now it's more of a nagging fishwife than a fairy princess. I mean why do gay men imitate women? It seems like we have a mild version of whatever trans people have.

[quote] I mean why do gay men imitate women? It seems like we have a mild version of whatever trans people have.

r91 Okay, I usually get angry when straight fools stereotype us as all as effeminate limpwristed queens. And I don't like it when gay men call each other "gurl".

I'm masculine and love my masculinity, just like I love dick.

But I'll be honest. There is a lot femininity among gay males and yours is a legitimate question and observation.

I also enjoy my masculinity and I’m a top and bi as well. Have good male and female friends.

Femininity does not belong exclusively to women.

[R5] I'm s*ck to death of you history devoid, quisling, self-contradicting dumb ass gays with this bullsh*t. As if it easy or easier in any way to come out as trans and that's preferablet to being gay. You piss on the shoulders you stand on, living very comfortable lives as gay people, and yet spew hate against trans women along with homophobic gender fascists. F*ck all the way off .

As a child, yes, but I grew out of it.

No never ever OP. And I've never known any other gay man that wished they were female in my entire life.

Obvious trolling.

No. When I was a little, it was a cute little fantasy because I was reprimanded for wanting to play with dolls and dress-up and didn't understand why gender norms were a thing. I became very aware early on how unfair life is to girls and women and the idea of having to deal with menstruation, rape, pregnancy and childbirth is terrifying to me. I legitimately will never understand why a man would willingly become a woman. There's cases of white people trying to live a Black experience and immediately going back because it was too much to deal with. I don't think there are a lot of trans women who can grasp the humiliation and inequality women face as soon as they're born. Funny enough trans men actually do get it because they're born as women and living as men they also see being a man is not really that easy either despite our privileges.

I think there's more straight men who'd rather be gay. So many told me they are jealous of how easier it is for gay men to get laid compared to straight men. Plus many straight men seem to just tolerate women for the prospect of getting sex and only truly reserve affection for other men. Hell, many straight women seem to want to be gay men given how much they fetishize and live vicariously through us. They talk about how much hotter gay men are.

Yes, I always wished I were Ethel Kennedy.

Is that the retarded one?

“Tell the troll yes, tell the troll yes… listen to him spew crazy shit!”

I enjoy being a girl.

Gay men lick shitty assholes 😝

No, never.

Not even a thought that ever crossed my mind.

Of course. Anyone honest would recognize this, especially as you get older. Women have a much easier life and don't show up in any of the dire statistics on fringe issues regarding mental health, loneliness etc. They are inherently good at creating network around them, whivh really is the cornerstone in a god life. And they don't come anywhere near experiencing the brutal effects of homophobia.

No, except for a couple years when I was a little kid.

[QUOTE]Gay men - did you ever wish you were a woman?

Hell to the No.

[quote]Femininity does not belong exclusively to women.

So many gays would disagree. The pro-trans gays and homophobic gays, that is.

The irony is that if you actually *were* a woman, you wouldn't want most of the men available. Just because women have such different things to deal with such as that sex seriously means that they can get pregnant and then get saddled with dealing with that. (If you are hot whether gay or straight you can get plenty so if you're not getting dick as a gay man, don't necessarily expect you'd get dick that you'd actually want as a woman either if you were of similar looks.)

I've never wished I was a woman, but I have been jealous of the wider variety of clothing, shoes, and accessories options they have. It also seems like a skirt would be more ventilating in the summer.

R111 Which makes me wonder why there is such a double standard. It has been normal for several decades that women can wear jeans, pants, jackets, shirts. But men still can't wear skirts or dresses? Who is enforcing that? I see similar with how there are more female out politicians and celebs than there are out men.

Women definitely have way, way, way more clothing options. I’m not sure why that is. It’s always irritated me.

It’s why gay men transition today.

Well, for the “straight” guys.

R111- Men can go topless everywhere but woman can't in most states - in New York State they can go topless.

“MURIEL!!! He’s in here, there he is, that’s him!”

R110- It's not 1940. Birth control is widely available

For years I've been envious that woman have THREE inputs and men only get two.

R118 Birth control isn't 100% and most has side effects. It's still a bigger thing for women than men to casually sleep around.

R120- Just like for men having sex with each other- It's a bigger thing for the bottom than the top to casually sleep around.

I wonder how many trans kids will detransition in the future because they regret their decision. I read somewhere the rate isn't that high (around 1 %)

[quote]Gay men - did you ever wish you were a woman?

No OP.

What is a woman again?

gay men thru the eyes of a terf

[quote] pornography arises from the homophobia that is responsible for the oppression of gay men. That homophobia is a product of male supremacy. Thus cultural homophobia is a ‘by-product of cultural misogyny’ (Stoltenberg 1991: 250). Thus ‘the faggot is stigmatized because he is perceived to participate in the degraded status of the female’ (p. 250). Stoltenberg uses the concept of ‘internalised homophobia’ to mean too that ‘as a gay man you... dread the degraded status of anything feminine about yourself (p. 251). The result of this hatred of the feminine in themselves is that gay men are attracted to the exaggerated masculinity portrayed in gay pornography. They can identify with, or imagine themselves incorporating through being sexually used by, or ingesting the semen of, a ‘real’ man

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[quote] adherence to power in the form of hypermasculinity simply reinforces those models of behaviour that are the source of hetero sexual male privilege and the homophobic rejection of any public expression which challenges it’ (Kendall 1999: 158). He explains that homophobia works by silencing and oppressing all those men who do not uphold the unequal gender system of hetero-patriarchal male dominance. Hatred of gay men stems from male dominance, because gay men are seen as disloyal to the system, and particularly is loyal to the support of masculinity, men’s claim to dominance and the practice by which they maintain it. Commitment to hypermasculinity thus colludes with the very reason why gay men are oppressed in the first place, rather than helping to end it. By failing to reject gay pornography and its values, he says, ‘gay men commit to a male, heterosexist power structure that is central to their own oppression and the oppression of all women’

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[quote] lesbian pornography that began to be produced with the development of a sex industry for lesbians in the 1980s does not have a symbol of femaleness forming the very basis of authority and realness. Female genitalia are visible, as in straight men’s pornography, but masculinity once again is what is erotic. Pornography does not deliver to lesbians a way into the superior class of manhood. Lesbians are women, and remain so unless they too seek to acquire masculinity. Pro-pornography lesbians say that they learnt to appreciate pornography by looking at gay male porn and subsequently incorporated ‘gay male sexual iconography into their fantasies, sex play and cultural representations’ (Smyth 1992). The highest value absorbed through such incorporation is that masculinity is to be worshipped. In the 1980s this was reflected in a revaluing of lesbian ‘butchness’, and in the 1990s in the evolution of ‘transmen’, many of whom sought to become ‘gay men’ after surgery, despite, in most cases, the absence of any form of phalloplasty. ... The pursuit of the penis and the masculine privilege derived from male dominance is a sad and hopeless quest for lesbians. Even surgery cannot supply such a holy grail, since transsexual operations cannot construct a functional phallus. It is interesting to note that gay men are not as fascinated by lesbian porn as some lesbians purport to be by the gay male variety. Overwhelmed by the ‘ick factor’, some gay men are quite horrified by lesbian pom.

[quote] The AIDs crisis and the birth of queer politics led to many lesbians moving back to work with gay men whilst burying their anxieties about the values of dominant male gay culture. ...'. The existence of what has been called the ‘ick factor’ might well be considered to stand in the way of any easy assumption of there being a unified lesbian and gay category within a pluralist citizenry. This term is employed in gay male writings to describe the extreme revulsion experienced by some gay men at the thought or sight of women’s naked bodies