In your experience, which Ivy produces the biggest assholes?

Princeton

Harvard in the lead!

Harvard for the win

Cornell is the ivy people go to because they desperately wanted to go to an Ivy league school but they couldn't get into any of their other ones. There is a noticeable chip on the shoulder...

Bill Maher and Ann Coulter = Cornell

R4 that's a silly stereotype and outdated.

Yeah, R4, and anyway that school is actually Brown. See JFK Jr (who is not alive, despite the Q-delusions)

Biggest assholes? Yale.

Harvard is the worst.

I think UPenn is the low one on the Ivy totem pole.

Fuck this poll.

As a high school counselor, I have visited all the Ivies except Cornell. At Yale, I asked some students about their own impressions of the school. One came running at me. He demanded to know why I was there; he was very aggressive. I don't know what got into him. The others watching didn't comment, didn't offer an apology, nothing. Later I walked around the neighborhood to take photographs of the old tomb buildings. I snapped one of the Skull and Bones house. A member came running out and tried to take my camera. "This is private property." he said. Last I heard, it was okay to photograph buildings, no matter the occupants.

At Harvard, I encountered a law student. He was wearing purple contact lenses, so distracting. He assured me his life was set. He would take over his father's law firm in New York City and "summer" in the Hamptons.

Dartmouth students were very friendly. One of them bought me a bowl of chili after I said it smelled good. Another offered to guide me through downtown Hanover to see how students spent some of their spare time.

The best assessment was provided by a student at Princeton. "When I got my letter of acceptance, I couldn't believe I got into Princeton. After my first several weeks of classes, I looked at my fellow students and wondered how they got into Princeton.

I always heard it was Brown.

Naturally I voted Harvard, but I'm surprised to see Penn / Wharton coming in so low in this poll. Almost every Wharton MBA I've encountered (and I've encountered more than plenty) has been a fucking psycho, suck-up, and/or egomaniac -- and not nearly as intelligent as they think they are.

Princeton.

I’m no Lisa Birnbach, but:

Dartmouth = for smarter dumb jocks

Harvard = owns the excellence brand / more global student body

Stanford = owns the west coast excellence brand / more global student body

Brown = super rich and a tad more artsy

Cornell = skews geekier

Yale = Smart and assholes

Princeton = not as smart as Yalies, but assholes…so #1

UPenn = Please and MIT please

Stanford is not a member of the Ivy League r14. Neither is MIT.

Though both colleges are more impressive than a lot of colleges which are members of the Ivy League.

Too bad NYU is not an Ivy. It would win running away.

Stanford couldn't even get rid of an impostor who was hanging around for eighteen months.

Cornell is the easiest Ivy to get accepted to r7 and R9. That's just a fact, the numbers don't lie.

But Stanford has me, bitches.

Yale seems to get a lot of assholes that go on to do destructive things. More so than the rest. But in terms of pure personality, nothing beats Harvard pricks.

Penn produced Trump, so…

Cornell is for those who want to be able to say they attend an Ivy but also want to party like they're at a state school.

Dartmouth is the party ivy r22, it's in the middle of nowhere there is nothing to do other than drink. The urban legend goes that beer pong was invented at Dartmouth.

Bitter?

Whichever Ivy r24 attended

Cornell is comparable with Dartmouth when it comes to the Greek scene. They're stuck in bumfuck upstate New York—students sometimes get so depressed they commit suicide by jumping into the nearby gorge.

It’s interesting that the DL-assessed asshole factor pretty much corresponds to the school’s level of prestige.

They are so pretentious at Penn and won't shut up about it, but they're the safety school of the Ivies. Even Brown is harder to get into.

^outdated. Penn is the 4th most selective Ivy, behind only Harvard, Princeton and Columbia.

^Penn grad.

^nope. Penn WAS my safety school.

Given the current state of the nation, how is Penn not winning this asshole contest?

Interesting that no one mentions Columbia, for good reason. I think being in NY and being surrounded by so many smart people both in the school and in the city helps lower the asshole quotient.

I went to Harvard and there were plenty of assholes there but all in all, you can't beat Dartmouth for the preppiest, most entitled students in the Ivy League.

Once you get out of the Ivies, Stanford has the most smug students. Boston University the most aggressively stupid. MIT the geekiest (of course). U Chicago is like Columbia, too many smart people both around you and in your city to become too much of a jerk.

All in all, if you want to get away from assholes, the state schools like Virginia, Michigan, Vermont, Cal (so many of them) are your best bet -- they have the most diverse and interesting student bodies.

Re Penn R33, remember that Penn and Wharton aren't the same thing -- Wharton is Penn's business school and produces the 4th most billionaires in the country. Undergrad Penn is just another Ivy with some great departments (psych, English) but not so much in the computer sciences area.

Wharton also has undergraduate degrees.

If only there were smart people in Boston.

Yep r35, Wharton does give out undergraduate degrees and high schoolers who have an eye on an corporate business career often consider Penn their top choice for that reason r34.

Where's the "All of the Above" option?

Post for jealous bitches who can't get into any of them....

R22 wrong again. Cornell is the "grind" Ivy with highest work load and lowest grade inflation.

Every few years the "lesser" ivies jockey in selectivity. Harvard Yale and Princeton in the 20th century were reliably the "most selective". But since the 90s, in fact, the selectivity of the rest rise and fall. They are all highly selective, but now even the #3 spot can be grabbed by someone other than Princeton or Yale. As currently the case with Columbia. Brown had a fashionable period, and rose almost to the top. Then PENN. It's whatever a minigeneratin decides they all want to go to. Just because, say, Columbia rises to 3, does not mean that the grades are higher or lower than others.

Selectivity does not mean that the MOST selective has the MOST qualified. It means it is the college that got the MOST APPLICATIONS, so they have to reject 90% of them.

There are non-ivy colleges that have selectivity rates as high and HIGHER than Ivy League schools. CalTech, MIT, Stanford, Duke, Uof Chicago, Juilliard - all can have extreme selectivity in certain years when every 18yo decides that is THE school to go to.

I suspect maybe 20 percent of DLers have actually known someone from any of those schools.

No, R41–It is measured as a percentage of applicants who are accepted.

Another key measure is “yield” or the percentage accepted who enroll. For example, Harvard gets 83% of it’s admits.

Yale.

It’s gotta be Penn, cuz trump is the biggest asshole in the world.

When they are assholes, this tends to be what kind:

Harvard - braggarts and narcissists Yale - intellectual prigs Princeton - insular and mean Columbia - cut-throat careerists Cornell - insuferable know it alls, perfectionists Brown - two-faced attractive glamazon bitches Dartmouth - dumb and cruel Penn - Dillinger capitalists

Harvard - braggarts and narcissists

Yale - intellectual prigs

Princeton - insular and mean

Columbia - cut-throat careerists

Cornell - insufferable know it alls, perfectionists

Brown - two-faced attractive glamazon bitches

Dartmouth - dumb and cruel

Penn - Dillinger capitalists

[quote] At Harvard, I encountered a law student. He was wearing purple contact lenses, so distracting. He assured me his life was set. He would take over his father's law firm in New York City and "summer" in the Hamptons.

That’s depressing. To be that young and already know what the rest of your life is going to look like.

Princeton givers you the rub, and nothing else, fucking bitches.

People tend to forget that Cornell was founded as a Land-Grant University, the only one of the Ivies to have that status, which immediately puts them on the very bottom rung of the list and begs to question if they should be on the list at all. I personally believe there are others much more worthy of that spot than Cornell.

Poison ivy will certainly swell your asshole into a big one.

At Harvard, all seemed to breathe freedom and peace and to make one forget the world and its sad turmoils.

Very few Ivy League students live up to the hype. Most of them are beneficiaries of their parents’ wealth and connections and would be duds without this hand up. Getting into one is by no means a sign of intelligence or industriousness. I’m more impressed by state school students put their noses to the grindstone, work hard and make something of themselves solely on their own merits. The most obnoxious students I’ve met have been from UPenn, though.

Which explains why the Ivy Alumni fail to achieve century after century.

Harvard grads do a lot of high profile damage to the world. Dartmouth grads don't have the same impact, but they're bigger assholes on an individual level.

David Hogg was one before he got to Harvard, so the university can't be held responsible for that.

Yale has the most encouraging assholes

I went to Yale—and all the assholes looked good when properly framed by a jockstrap.

R50 - "Ivy League" is a football and then all sports conference. Though it came to mean "elite universities" - and they were elite when the conference was created and remain elite today - "Ivy League" is not always synonymous with the BEST. There is not a SINGLE Ivy League in the top ten for engineering, for example.

The general public may believe that Ivy means best, but whatever.

Brown fell into tatters before Gregorian was tapped to rebuild its wealth. It was poorer than 100 of the top universities. But was still Ivy League.

Of course Cornell has competition for better programs at other universities but it is still a "top university" and whether it is 18 or 8, does it matter?

I've only ever see Brown assholes

I've only seen Brown assholes

R61 Fuck some redheads, they are usually rosy pink.