This Kanye nonsense has me thinking about the stereotype of anti-Semitism being stronger among black people. Is this true or is it a product of high-profile anti-Semites like Kanye, Alice Walker, Cornel West, etc.?
Anti-Semitism in the Black Community
by Anonymous | reply 143 | October 28, 2022 1:32 PM |
it would be too easy to generalize but the nuances I'm araid wouldn't be grasped in elaborating on details about different factions, branches, in the black american consciousness.
most antisemitism comes from the faux afro-centric extremists push that narrative. It's been written into NOI's extraterrestrial hollow earth orgin story. . . there was once a good relationship despite these fringes but that went to shit by the 80s. largely because the defacto, unelected, national community leaders drove this point.
these kind of tensions are across the board, even with black immigrants in general. . . and like most other groups, you see this more in places with ghettos that have been ghettos for more than twenty years. like it applies to any demographic that's too isolated, too cut off and too many living near the poverty level.
this gets represented too much at the national narrative by the poverty porn, the struggle... and where black excellence is viewed as conservative, even with Obama it's seen as conservative aka "white," white-acting - tho, some never accepted him, just as many see Kamala as more south asian than black- that's an area where it requires greater ability to understand nuances when you look into the history and struggle to claim authenticity. . . which is what the crazy conspiracy origin cults exploit as do gangs and politics, of course.
there's too many fractions... and too much resentments all around. Jews weren't perfect either in this regard. I would say that goes mostly to a subset associated with NYC yet most arrived later than Jews in the rest of the Americas but one isn't allowed nuance even there and since they are now the majority among American Jews, all the other subtypes disappear. diasporic jews like proving an image of a united front, so you can never discuss internal divides anywhere... or even external conflict. But I suppose that is true of many others, too. same problems among the "black" community which isn't very united either.. but likes maintaining a picture of that front.
modern times, now, this is too loaded of a topic.
but as with most topics of this nature, the silent majority is generally silenced because they are not as sensationalized...
by Anonymous | reply 1 | October 24, 2022 2:49 PM |
Back in the day, a black maid or houseman would do well to get on with a Jewish family and stick with them.
You weren't going to get rich, but you weren't likely to get let go because your employer couldn't afford you.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | October 24, 2022 2:53 PM |
There's no more antisemitism in the community than there is anti-Asian sentiment. It's there, but it's not crazy severe.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | October 24, 2022 2:55 PM |
There's more homophobia in the mix up for sure.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | October 26, 2022 6:43 AM |
Are you just lumping in black people who criticize Israel with Kanye West?
by Anonymous | reply 5 | October 26, 2022 6:51 AM |
Isnt it common knowledge that Jews and Blacks don't seem to get along? Or is it just a New York thing.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | October 26, 2022 6:55 AM |
r2 you're really quite ignorant to Jewish & African American history, aren't you? Anyone can google it or search video sites for documentaries from the batshit crazy types of both groups to the civil rights movement and before. Also, more than a few roundtable discussions about the people caught in the middle black jews (of the American variety, most mixed, some adopted, some converts, raised and only a handful of beta israel in the states.. but it wouldn't hurt looking up their history either)
r3 yes, there is a strong hostility against asians but
r5 there is prevalaent antisemitism in the black community beyond Israel's politics, but you find it the most with groups like the Nation of Islam (which is closer to scientology than having anything to do with Islam)... though there is legitimate criticism of Israel and double standards, and most among the social justice crowd, particularly the bds crowd, operate on this double standard with much ignorance to Israel itself, it's politics, it's people, it's history.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | October 26, 2022 6:55 AM |
Black people and Jewish people have been working hand in hand next to each since he civil right movement and before. Jews tend to be very liberal to almost leftist and were huge partners in fighting for black rights. As communities, we kind of get each other. So no, I would still believe the large swath of anti-semitism is coming from White Christians.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | October 26, 2022 6:57 AM |
The mutual animosity between the two groups LONG predates the Nation of Islam.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | October 26, 2022 6:59 AM |
It wasn't black people who went into that Pittsburgh synagogue, nor were they the ones by the hundreds chanting "Jew will not replace us," nor were they selling/wearing "Camp Auschwitz" merch.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | October 26, 2022 6:59 AM |
jewS
by Anonymous | reply 11 | October 26, 2022 7:00 AM |
Yes. Majority of Nazis in the Nazi Germany were black men. Most people don't know that. Just like they don't know that most of the skinheads and neo-Nazis in today's world are black men as well.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | October 26, 2022 7:00 AM |
r4 homophobia has never been properly addressed within the community. We could call this the proto-stack.. the hierarchy of oppression when it comes public politics. One could also examine why few celebrity lesbians will ever identify as lesbians despite being gold star, though many public figures were not and a bit over the map, rad fems politics.... perhaps this . many also have issues with identifying as feminists as well. does it go hand in hand or not? it's difficult to say..
r10 it is not either, or... but it silly to deny the prevlance of antisemitism there... nor how powerful of an influence of the Nation of Islam, and how often, how much it had been given a free pass until just a few years ago.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | October 26, 2022 7:02 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 14 | October 26, 2022 7:03 AM |
[quote]Are you just lumping in black people who criticize Israel with Kanye West?
Which is why more and more people can't stand Zionism. They think Kanye being a fucking asshole means they get to shutdown debate on a US taxpayer-funded country that oppresses an entire population. Nothing stupider than thinking any group would be fine with watching everything taken from them as long as their oppressor isn't Jewish.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | October 26, 2022 7:03 AM |
I couldn't find much about Cornel West being anti-Semitic. Alice Walker likes David Icke, which is weird, but whatever. Kanye went deathcon 3 on Jews though. There has to be better black people to lump in with Kanye West like Louis Farrakhan for instance.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | October 26, 2022 7:03 AM |
[quote] Alice Walker likes David Icke, which is weird, but whatever.
Get your head out of the sand, r16. That says EVERYTHING.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | October 26, 2022 7:05 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 18 | October 26, 2022 7:07 AM |
R10 No, but Black people DID shoot up a kosher grocery store in NJ. Black people regularly host antisemitic rallies in public.
All you have to do is go on Instagram and see how Black people are reacting to the Kanye news to see how much Black people hate Jews.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | October 26, 2022 7:08 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 20 | October 26, 2022 7:09 AM |
Within the black activist community, Alice Walker approving of antisemitism is like Oprah giving it assent. She is a goddess to them (and beyond).
No wonder its so prevalent.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | October 26, 2022 7:09 AM |
Burn Israel down but I still hate Kanye. Both can be true.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | October 26, 2022 7:10 AM |
[quote] Jews tend to be very liberal to almost leftist
That's odd, most of the Jews I know are kind of conservative. Left of Trump maybe but hardly liberal. Maybe it's an LA thing. Most of the Jews I know here are Registered as Democrats but they talk like Republicans a lot of the time. Their main complaints are all the black people shopping in Beverly Hills all of a sudden and most of the crime like smash and grab is always done by black thugs. They also complain that every ad in stores and TV seem to be black, black, black ever since the riots. Their words not mine.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | October 26, 2022 7:10 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 24 | October 26, 2022 7:14 AM |
My overriding impression of New York in the 90's was that the only two groups who were vocal in their criticism of one another were these two groups. And I do not mean Bensonhurst - I mean the (Very) Upper West Side / Harlem and the Lower East Side projects. They lived right next to each other, hated each other, and it was obvious to all.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | October 26, 2022 7:15 AM |
OK, after reading through that article, I will agree that Alice Walker is a little anti-Semitic. Cornell West? I don't see it.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | October 26, 2022 7:16 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 27 | October 26, 2022 7:16 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 28 | October 26, 2022 7:17 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 29 | October 26, 2022 7:17 AM |
Name me a famous American black activist who is not, r26.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | October 26, 2022 7:17 AM |
It’s always been true, OP. Many blacks had slumlords who were Jewish. They feel vantage of by them. They also hate Asians, white women, and don’t even get them started on homosexuality - it takes black men away from their wives.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | October 26, 2022 7:18 AM |
It’s always been true, OP. Many blacks had slumlords who were Jewish. They feel advantage of by them. They also hate Asians, white women, and don’t even get them started on homosexuality - it takes black men away from their wives.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | October 26, 2022 7:18 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 33 | October 26, 2022 7:20 AM |
Just a week or so ago Kanye was wearing "white lives matter" shirts and nobody made a peep. He loves white people, he is Trump's buddy, he only couples with white or white-looking women. He's mentally ill and craves attention. His making anti-Semitic remarks is his way of saying "look at me!"
Black people can't stand him. Don't try to make the ravings of a lunatic some kind of indication of what Black people think.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | October 26, 2022 7:20 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 35 | October 26, 2022 7:22 AM |
Oh please, r34. I lived in a largely black street in Santa Monica, r34. Kanye was blasting all the time. They love him.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | October 26, 2022 7:22 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 37 | October 26, 2022 7:24 AM |
[quote] Jews tend to be very liberal to almost leftist
Almost? They were members of the Western communist party in HUGE numbers. A huge amount are Socialist today. Marx was Jewish himself. Probably being forced to live in ghettos and working on a kibbutz make communism not seem like a big deal. Ironically though, communism in Eastern European counties is antisemitic. Many things that Jews have gotten involved with socially has gotten them into trouble. Bending over backward for the black community is one of them, not to mention how antisemetic the left is today. Their alignment with communism and the Soviets was not a good look.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | October 26, 2022 7:26 AM |
[quote] Black people can't stand him.
Sure, Jan.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | October 26, 2022 7:26 AM |
I don’t blame Jews at all who have move Rightward.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | October 26, 2022 7:26 AM |
[quote] Within the black activist community, Alice Walker approving of antisemitism is like Oprah giving it assent. She is a goddess to them (and beyond).
"a goddess"?! You are a shit-stirrer and obviously know nothing of the "them" you speak of.
Alice Walker has been controversial to most Blacks and reviled by many for the negative, barbaric caricatures of Black men in her literature and for marrying interracially before going full-on lesbo.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | October 26, 2022 7:27 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 42 | October 26, 2022 7:27 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 43 | October 26, 2022 7:29 AM |
That's bullshit, r36. All of it.
I've lived in Los Angeles for 30 years, there is no "largely Black" street in Santa Monica.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | October 26, 2022 7:29 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 45 | October 26, 2022 7:31 AM |
Sure there was. Right by the graveyard.
Also, Los Angeles is not Santa Monica. You think you own it but you know nothing aside from the beach parts. We who actually lived there noticed that about you.
My neighbours were nice - their grandchildren who constantly came to stay, not so much.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | October 26, 2022 7:32 AM |
[quote] I don’t blame Jews at all who have move Rightward.
Yeah, dummy, cuz Marjorie Taylor Greene and Steve King are waiting for them on the Right, with open arms.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | October 26, 2022 7:33 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 48 | October 26, 2022 7:33 AM |
Fuck you, r44. It took me all of two seconds to google this about my old area. Bigoted AND lazy is QUITE a combination.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | October 26, 2022 7:34 AM |
R49, you're a dumb bitch! Where is the street in Santa Monica that has been blasting Kanye West whenever it is you were supposed to have lived there?! He wasn't around in the 1950s. LA is a city of constant gentrification and shifting demographics.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | October 26, 2022 7:40 AM |
I'm not doxxing myself for some bigoted lazy scumbag such as yourself, asshole r51.
Learn to live with it.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | October 26, 2022 7:41 AM |
"students for justice in palestine" and similar groups, compare the many campus groups and offcampus activist groups that support them, ally with them.
many blm organizations did... though, many people that support the movement did not. so, keep that in mind.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | October 26, 2022 7:41 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 54 | October 26, 2022 7:42 AM |
Want to know what it's like being protested by bds?
by Anonymous | reply 55 | October 26, 2022 7:44 AM |
I don't think there is a uniform feeling about Jews in the black community. And that variety of opinions means it is never appropriate to say that all blacks hate Jews. I think that whenever there are riots in poverty-ridden inner cities, one of the targets of looting are the small businesses that are in the vicinity. Often the rioters feel that those small businesses have ripped them off - whether they are owned by Jews, Koreans, Indians, or whatever non-black ethnicity. I don't think that's necessarily true - it's just a way that people have of justifying breaking windows and looting.
Well-informed black people are well-aware that Jews stood by them and some lost their lives during the Civil Rights Era - notably Michael Schwerner and Andrew Goodman in Mississippi in 1964. Most of the lawyers who were registering voters and fighting poll taxes and other anti-voting measures as well as fighting for civil rights were also Jews, who already had experience in that area as they had had to fight for civil rights for Jews in the preceding decades. And there were many Jewish philanthropic organizations who donated to civil rights causes in that era.
In recent years, some black people have been concerned about the lack of rights of Palestinians in the occupied territories of the West Bank. It reminds them of segregation and apartheid. So I think some are against Israel's current policies in regard to Palestinians. Whether this can be said to be anti-semitic is another thing, but sometimes those two categories overlap.
However, Kanye West is in a category unto himself. He is mentally ill, so that needs to be taken into account too.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | October 26, 2022 7:44 AM |
"Doxxing" yourself? You're safe, cunt! Ain't nobody thinking about you.
I know it's hard to keep the story straight when you're making it up while waiting for the Lunesta to kick in. But before you pass out, just clarify, do you STILL live on a "largely Black" street in SM, or did you once live there?
by Anonymous | reply 58 | October 26, 2022 7:51 AM |
Not for you, toots. Sorry. You're not worth it.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | October 26, 2022 7:52 AM |
Also imbecile, learn to READ. I livED there. I do not live there now.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | October 26, 2022 7:52 AM |
Thank you, that's my answer. Tell the other Klan Grannies I said "good night."
by Anonymous | reply 61 | October 26, 2022 7:56 AM |
[quote] Also imbecile, learn to READ. I livED there. I do not live there now.
Illiterate, too? You're a catch. Did you live in a cardboard box on that street?
by Anonymous | reply 62 | October 26, 2022 7:58 AM |
r56 among every demographic, where there are struggles, there always excuses for scapegoats.
this is true of some jewish communities, this is true of some black communities... in latino, in asian, in native american, in muslim, in poor white, and so on.
it is not to say there are not problems in other brackets, of course they are.. and they get masked by many other things. in bigger cities it is more difficult to escape no matter the bracket, often it is a neverending back and forth... tensions remain for past damages, often mutual, and the tensions remain even when there's no one left alive that remembers the reasons. the less members of a community interact with those outside, the more biases form, the more resentments are held, the more tensions there are to those outside. these things, however, lessen in areas that are more diversified, and in the communities of burbs, not so much when you get too small. though rural is far more variable.
the true is same for politics, philosophy, theology, get too locked into a single school of thought and one risks becoming a fanatic.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | October 26, 2022 7:59 AM |
During the 1950s and 1960s, Jewish people were heavily involved in the civil rights movement, and both groups were involved in leftist/socialist activism, but there was a concerted effort by conservatives to drive a wedge between Jews and blacks in order to prevent them from becoming allies. It's easier to keep smaller, disparate groups of minorities down, than it is when they ally and gain more influence and have larger voting blocs.
As a result, there was a lot of distrust built between the two communities. By the 1970s it was bad enough that I remember All In the Family joking about blacks always hating Jews and vice versa, plus an old Saturday Night Live joke with Chevy Chase as the news anchor saying that Sammy Davis Jr. converted to Judaism, and was quoted as saying "finally, now I can hate myself!"
Things have improved a lot since the 1990s, but the old animosity is starting to come back. You see a lot of of those sketchy "Black Twitter" accounts run by people who post obvious propaganda who will say "Kanye is right, the Jew wants to take the black man down" and they get a lot of likes for it.
The internet has made it a thousand times easier for anyone -- government, corporations, media, bored millionaire, a small group of asshole trolls -- to sow distrust and hate between various groups, which they then take advantage of.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | October 26, 2022 11:15 AM |
The last 5 years have basically shown me that everybody hates everybody else. Human beings are just wired to be tribal.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | October 26, 2022 11:37 AM |
I live in New Orleans. I'm a white woman, 49yo.
Black people here are more superstitious than whites here. You don't have to believe it for it to be true. Also, Blacks here are blatantly anti-Jews. Shameless, like it's very righteous to feel hate for Jews.
Sorry, but it's a fucking FACT. I've seen the evidence all around all of my life. Black people are more superstitious than whites and they really hate Jews even more than whites generally do.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | October 26, 2022 11:39 AM |
The blacker the berry, the sweeter the Jews!
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by Anonymous | reply 77 | October 26, 2022 12:52 PM |
Black people don't like anyone..... especially their own.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | October 26, 2022 1:05 PM |
For all of you bringing up the Nation of Islam, just let it be known that like 1% of the black population in America is Nation of Islam. It's like saying white people like fucking their sisters because some hillbillies do it in West Virginia.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | October 26, 2022 1:35 PM |
As a black man in America, I have never encountered any other black person who has a problem with Jews outside of very fringe groups possibly like the nation of islam. If anything the black community is envious of how tightly knit the Jewish community is given the fact that the two groups face discrimination, persecution in the United States. And it's this very persecution that tends to bond them together. Even though Jay-Z's lyrics in his song. "The Story of OJ" might seem anti-semitic to some, they are more of a call to black people to look to the Jewish community and how they have pulled themselves up in America through smart business practices:
“You wanna know what’s more important than throwin’ away money at a strip club? Credit/ You ever wonder why Jewish people own all the property in America? This how they did it.”
by Anonymous | reply 80 | October 26, 2022 1:52 PM |
[quote] I live in New Orleans. I'm a white woman, 49yo.
This is the wrong thread for you, chere. You've discredited your opinion with your introduction.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | October 26, 2022 2:52 PM |
[quote] It's like saying white people like fucking their sisters because some hillbillies do it in West Virginia.
Sister-f*cking hillbillies are not confined to West Virginia, bigot.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | October 26, 2022 4:35 PM |
Alice Walker went full David Ike a while ago. Sadly.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | October 26, 2022 11:44 PM |
Cornel West is not an anti-Semite. OP’s inclusion of West makes me think OP is just a shit-stirring troll.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | October 27, 2022 12:10 AM |
Trump made anti-Semitic comments but you're not making comments about antisemitism in the white community
by Anonymous | reply 85 | October 27, 2022 12:15 AM |
And gay community, OP.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | October 27, 2022 12:19 AM |
It' true. But why would you anti-semitic marxists care?
by Anonymous | reply 87 | October 27, 2022 12:27 AM |
[quote] I don't think there is a uniform feeling about Jews in the black community.
Yes there is.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | October 27, 2022 12:45 AM |
[quote] Cornel West is not an anti-Semite.
Yes he is.
by Anonymous | reply 89 | October 27, 2022 12:46 AM |
Black people still haven't attained any remarkable institutional power in the US yet. They are a powerful voting block, but that's about it. So unless an anti semitic political party utilizes the black voting block, there is really is no issue. Both parties in the US have a strong relationship with Jewish Americans and Israelis, so there's no reason to worry about large scale violence like the Holocaust. However, anti Jewish hate crimes could possibly increase as they did against asians back in 2020. Of course whites will be blamed again.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | October 27, 2022 1:06 AM |
I'm black, uncut and dated a Jewish guy who told me he brought his own meat to restaurants (never did it in front of me though)...
by Anonymous | reply 91 | October 27, 2022 1:10 AM |
[quote]Black people don't like anyone..... especially their own.
Black people can't be racist. Or so a lot of black people are saying these days.
Oh the irony.🙄
by Anonymous | reply 92 | October 27, 2022 1:30 AM |
You're black and uncut and he brought his own meat to the restaurant?
by Anonymous | reply 93 | October 27, 2022 1:38 AM |
I mean didn't he like what you were bringing to the table? ^
by Anonymous | reply 94 | October 27, 2022 1:41 AM |
I'm black and grew up in a small town. I didn't meet my first Jewish person until college, and he's still my best friend. This is going to make me sound really naive, but I had zero idea until college why some people didn't like Jewish people. I had to learn about a lot about the faith and the culture. I didn't grow up in a religious family and since there were no Jewish people in my town, no one ever really talked about them.
In my experience, if there is some black/Jewish tension it tends to be concentrated in large cities and seems to come from the Muslim and militant types. However, most of the hate seems to come from Xtian white people and white supremacists. To this day, I'm still amazed when someone says "that guy or that girl is Jewish." I think, how do you know?
by Anonymous | reply 95 | October 27, 2022 1:53 AM |
r79 Yet they remain the primary source for antisemitism and popular among black celebrites... celebrities in general don't represent the average American but we recognize they have platforms that average Americans do not.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | October 27, 2022 2:07 AM |
R93/r94 the way he explained to me I guess meant he doesn't trust the meat to be kosher in restaurants. As I said, he never did it when we went out (he would eat a salad) but I figured he was letting me know he was very Jewish and was breaking many taboos by sucking a black uncut dick.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | October 27, 2022 2:17 AM |
r95 for Jews, both the left and the right are equal in their antisemitism. . . in the city, it is often associated with palestinian movements
palestinians are but a fraction and yet has wide support and has been embraced within many social justice movements but primarily the far left. It operates under the guise of being anti-zionist - the form of anti-Israel criticism it takes is the desire to see Israel destroyed completely and far too often then spills over into antisemitism. double standard bds does not target any other nation, pinkwashing which was once a term for corporations that sponsor pride but contribute funds to anti-lgbt candidates has been hijacked almost solely to represent anti-Israel rhetoric. And again, all this tends to be transparent in their antisemitism when they say anti-zionist. anti-zionism has been used to attack our neighborhoods, businesses, organizations, selves. And it is glossed over on the left because they are left.
every major event ends up spilling over to local Jewish communities. This is no secret but it rarely makes as big of headlines as neonazis and rightwing antisemitism. And often even addressing it gets returned with hostility from the left, especially in this age, that you must be a magat.
On the right, similarities play out, especially with yes, christian fundamentalists and far right groups, which deride us as "woke" for addressing it... and both unite in believing grand global conspiracies because we say hey, that's not cool.
It is also unhelped by some of our national organizations that don't represent us anymore than other national organizations for other communities don't represent them. or the parties on the hill represent us in totality either. they exist in their own sphere.
by Anonymous | reply 98 | October 27, 2022 2:22 AM |
*yawn*
So basically this is just an anti-Black thread started under the pretext that anti-semitism should be condemned when it is apparent most of you have almost equal contempt for Blacks AND Jews.
Typical datalounge.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | October 27, 2022 2:41 AM |
most attacks against Jews in major cities are not by neonazis. it happens, of course, but most attacks are not.
I can link to broader antisemitism watchdogs but that may be too biased for some of you, so I'd recommend searching the media sites you feel are the most neutral and looking at the attacks.
there have been several reported since the start of this week in nyc alone. since kanye's antisemitism is hot right now, most are reporting other attacks. . . but for orthodox jews this is almost daily, for other jews it varies, those on campus regularly are targets of harassment (often in the vein of being jews but have yet to renoucne israel. which even if they do is no protection in the end.) but they learn to avoid the extremists on campuses and getting involved with student government, social clubs and organizations with far left bent. . . synagogues regularly face defacement (but so do mosques, catholic churches, so on.)
by Anonymous | reply 100 | October 27, 2022 2:48 AM |
What I find interesting is that the Jewish population is only like 1.5% and yet as non-Jewish Americans we are supposed to be all up on the traditions, customs and phrases they use and yet no such similar expectation of other religions like Muslim or Buddhist etc. It smells like there is a lot of over representation of just one specific group that falls in the less than 5% of the population.
by Anonymous | reply 101 | October 27, 2022 2:50 AM |
r101 if you want to use that argument, then explain the over representation of hate against them.
by Anonymous | reply 102 | October 27, 2022 2:53 AM |
Well, I think there's more hate against Muslims than Jews. Have they tried to ban Jews from coming to the US in modern day Trump era? Do major networks like FOX openly mock Jewish congressman wearing a Yarmulke like they do to Ilhan Omar for wearing a hijab?
by Anonymous | reply 103 | October 27, 2022 2:59 AM |
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by Anonymous | reply 104 | October 27, 2022 8:55 AM |
Jeez, the black community didn't try to genocide the Jews. The white community invented antisemitism and loved to hate on anyone different than them for all these centuries. Trying to pin this shit on blacks now is ridiculous.
by Anonymous | reply 105 | October 27, 2022 9:30 AM |
From personal experiences I dated a Jewish guy who likes to tell me about his experience with blacks and Hispanics while living in the bronx. He was picked on and harassed with antisemitic language. I understand why both groups dislike eachother. I know a number of black men who support Kanye antisemite opinion. You also have Jewish people who have exploited blacks for years. I work in non profit and most of the owners are Jewish and the lower tier positions are filled with blacks.
by Anonymous | reply 107 | October 27, 2022 10:00 AM |
What's cracking me up at the moment are the very same white, woke tweeters who vilified Chris Rock for making a hair joke because "mean words=violence" disappearing up their own asses trying to find a way to absolve Kanye.
by Anonymous | reply 108 | October 27, 2022 11:22 AM |
Because they’re anti-Semitic. ^
by Anonymous | reply 109 | October 27, 2022 11:26 AM |
Oh they absolutely are. "Stem from very valid experiences " but of course.
by Anonymous | reply 110 | October 27, 2022 11:28 AM |
[quote]What's cracking me up at the moment are the very same white, woke tweeters who vilified Chris Rock for making a hair joke because "mean words=violence" disappearing up their own asses trying to find a way to absolve Kanye.
Kanye is (was) a billionaire who refuses to get help for his mental illness. Until he is ready to be an adult and deal with his problem, then he gets whatever he deserves. This has zero to do with any oppression - historical or otherwise.
by Anonymous | reply 111 | October 27, 2022 1:12 PM |
Did we want Mel Gibson “to take his medicine”? I can’t remember. No, I don’t think so. He was written off immediately. Because he’s white.
by Anonymous | reply 112 | October 27, 2022 1:18 PM |
do a simple search on youtube for antisemitic brooklyn
by Anonymous | reply 114 | October 27, 2022 1:37 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 115 | October 27, 2022 2:38 PM |
Malcolm X had plenty of opinions on the topic.....
[quote]Anybody that gives even a just criticism of the Jew is instantly labeled anti-Semite. The Jew cries louder than anybody else if anybody criticizes him. You can tell the truth about any minority in America, but make a true observation about the Jew, and if it doesn’t pat him on the back, then he uses his grip on the news media to label you anti-Semite.
[quote]Let me say just a word about the Jew and the black man. The Jew is always anxious to advise the black man. But they never advise him how to solve his problem the way the Jews solved their problem. The Jew never went sitting-in and crawling-in and sliding-in and freedom-riding, like he teaches and helps Negroes to do.
[quote]...With money donations, the Jew gains control, then he sends the black man doing all this wading-in, boring-in, even burying-in—everything but buying-in. Never shows him how to set up factories and hotels. Never advises him how to own what he wants. No, when there’s something worth owning, the Jew’s got it. Walk up and down in any Negro ghetto in America. Ninety percent of the worthwhile businesses you see are Jew-owned. Every night they take the money out. This helps the black man’s community stay a ghetto.”
by Anonymous | reply 116 | October 27, 2022 2:52 PM |
Blacks think way too much about Jews^.
by Anonymous | reply 117 | October 27, 2022 4:06 PM |
R112 Mel Gibson was cancelled before cancelling was a thing. So yes he did pay for his anti-Semitic, sugar-tits sexist comments. The best he could do is try and comeback with a Jodie Foster puppet movie. He’s STILL on the outs with Hollywood. And he was a billionaire golden boy for them.
by Anonymous | reply 118 | October 27, 2022 11:08 PM |
American society is anti-Semitic in general. So it's not really concentrated in the Black community any more than other community. White rednecks have those same anti-Semitic conspiracy theories too, they're popular in general with less-educated crowd that buys any conspiracy theory. White nationalism and Black nationalism are sides of the same coin. Now there is a strong resentment towards Hasidic Jews since many moved in close proximity to predominately Black and Hispanic neighborhoods in the Northeast due to their block-busting and hoarding, refusal to integrate and funneling tax money from public schools for religious schools. People need to remember all minority groups are capable of racism and prejudice. I'm Black and I am aware yes Black people can be racist, maybe not a systemic or economic way but in a personalized way (this does not refute that white privilege exists). And many Hispanics, Arabs and East and South Asians are deeply racist too, especially against darker skinned people and very classist to poor people of all colors as well.
by Anonymous | reply 119 | October 27, 2022 11:14 PM |
I don't know if such a thing is true and I wouldn't make a general accusation., but what about the influence (in the past) of Louis Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam?
by Anonymous | reply 120 | October 27, 2022 11:16 PM |
OP is a lazy thinker. I promise you Black people have brains just like white people. We don't all blindly follow another Black person off the cliff. I promise you some of us can think for ourselves okay? Get a fucking clue Mary
by Anonymous | reply 121 | October 27, 2022 11:19 PM |
How come you capitalized black but not white? ^
by Anonymous | reply 122 | October 27, 2022 11:21 PM |
^^ I made sure to capitalize M for the hormonal nitpicking Marys such as yourself R122
by Anonymous | reply 123 | October 27, 2022 11:24 PM |
I love old white gay progressives^.
by Anonymous | reply 124 | October 27, 2022 11:27 PM |
Black = the African-American ethnic group that descends from Transatlantic slaves and free people of color.
black = skin color (which can include Subsaharan Africans, South and Southeast Asians, Melanasians and Australian Aborigines who all have been referred to or call themselves "black" too outside The US).
by Anonymous | reply 125 | October 27, 2022 11:28 PM |
Black
Trans
gay
white
by Anonymous | reply 126 | October 27, 2022 11:29 PM |
jew
by Anonymous | reply 127 | October 27, 2022 11:30 PM |
Blacks are some of the most tribalistic, hateful people in the world. This has only been fueled by white progressivism that aggressively reinforces this narcissistic notion that they alone are a perpetual victim race and everyone else is their enemy.
List of communities blacks have problems with:
- Whites
- Jews
- Asians (super racist toward them; corner store clerk trope)
- Gays and Lesbians (homophobia/down low)
- Latinos (gangs)
And of course they have a complicated as fuck relationship with Islam and their slightly weird appropriation of it.
by Anonymous | reply 128 | October 27, 2022 11:31 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 129 | October 27, 2022 11:32 PM |
R128 Ignoring white supremacy and the fact many old Black people remember when lynchings were a serious threat. You're going to ignore Arabs, Latinos and Asians are aren't extremely colorist and nasty to darker-skinned people despite moving into predominately Black neighborhoods? And even Latinos with obvious African ancestry like Dominicans and Brazilians are anti-black. Why don't you call out Europeans who are still extremely tribalistic especially Eastern Europeans?
by Anonymous | reply 130 | October 27, 2022 11:34 PM |
R128 And many Africans were Muslims because Arabs invaded Africa and forced Islam onto North and Upper West-Central Africa. The Nation of Islam is no different than Mormonism or Jehovah's Witnesses, Americans of all colors like making weird cults.
by Anonymous | reply 131 | October 27, 2022 11:36 PM |
Ironically, it was a coalition of Blacks voters & liberal Westside Jews (and to a lesser extent, Latinos) that propelled Tom Bradley to victory over Sam Yorty, in 1973 (and kept him in office for 20 years). Jesus, that seems like a million years ago.
by Anonymous | reply 132 | October 28, 2022 3:21 AM |
Several times in the past, Reverend Jesse Jackson Sr. has used the term "hymie" when speaking of Jewish people. I'm sure it was done out of affection.
by Anonymous | reply 133 | October 28, 2022 3:52 AM |
[quote] Black = the African-American ethnic group that descends from Transatlantic slaves and free people of color.
Not all blacks came that way, dummy.
by Anonymous | reply 134 | October 28, 2022 5:49 AM |
Jew hatred in America transcends race, ethnicity and belief due to its socio-cultural entrenchment. Since the negativity of racism against blacks is internalized in the American psyche, a cultural inculcation that is non-existent where Jew hatred is concerned, black entertainers, government representatives and community leaders are very much aware that they can spew anti-Jewish slurs reminiscent of Nazi Germany with a glut of socio-cultural support/agreement/deflection and scant condemnation/social censure.
by Anonymous | reply 135 | October 28, 2022 6:05 AM |
Israel isn't going anywhere. Kanye can rant all he wants.
Six million people live there. Not going anywhere.
by Anonymous | reply 136 | October 28, 2022 6:09 AM |
I, for one, have grown weary hearing about black people.... constantly.
by Anonymous | reply 137 | October 28, 2022 6:46 AM |
Yes, we know, racist fuck @ R137. We can see your posting history, dumbass.
by Anonymous | reply 138 | October 28, 2022 6:59 AM |
R134 I'm talking Black as in African American. Nobody in Africa calls themselves "black." Read a history book. African American is an ethnicity and we took the term Black to describe our culture and ethnicity. The root of African American culture is slavery and Jim Crow segregation. Deal with it. We're not a race as we range in phenotype and admixture and we called ourselves "Black" first. People in Africa called themselves "Bantu", "Igbo", "Habesha", "Yoruba", "Amazigh", "San", etc. They hopped onto the Black label later on especially after colonization. Obama, Idris Elba and Naomi Campbell are not African Americans. I feel you know this and want to be cute though
by Anonymous | reply 139 | October 28, 2022 11:20 AM |
[quote] The root of African American culture is slavery and Jim Crow segregation.
Which is identical to the root of the culture of tribes across Africa. Only it was Africans and Muslims doing the slaving and segregation.
by Anonymous | reply 140 | October 28, 2022 11:26 AM |
White gay progressives only read revisionism ^.
by Anonymous | reply 141 | October 28, 2022 11:30 AM |
some complain that no one responded to his white lives matter shirt, which they saw as an attack on the black community, but only did the world act when it was jews and they spin into conspiracy.
some now believe that the shirt was to catch the public attention when he would later repeat antisemitic claims, proving the former and they spin into conspiracy.
this and more from so many checkmarks on twitter.
It was the perfect troll. . . it's not just trolling.. but the damage it has done and will continue to do.
the 8 th is going to be chaos, no matter which way it goes. 2 years from now, too.
by Anonymous | reply 142 | October 28, 2022 12:11 PM |
It's interesting that in this era where intersectionality is supposed to be king were actually more divided and secretarian than ever.
by Anonymous | reply 143 | October 28, 2022 1:32 PM |