Gay porn stars who were/are extremely difficult to work with

I recall reading how Matt Gunther was always difficult on set, but towards the end he was impossible, most likely due to AIDS dementia.

[quote] uncommonly attractive

I'd say common. The porn dudes, with very few exceptions, all looked alike. Especially 80s and early 90s porn guys.

Just because - here's Matt Gunther from his 1981 HS yearbook. His ambition: "Millionaire and own a 450SLC".

I never took much interest in porn stars’ personalities or private lives.

The monthly round up on DL. The personalities and events frozen in time, long long ago.

r3 He probably should've chosen "to live past 40."

So he fixed that broad nose?

Pre-rhinoplasty, Gunther reminds me of Sosie Bacon.

I read an article that back then, they frequently used "stunt bottoms" or "stunt dicks" for some bigger name stars who wouldn't do anal.

Apparently, in his early days Ryan Idol was filmed strategically because he wouldn't do anal, but obviously, that quickly fell by the wayside.

[quote] I never took much interest in porn stars’ personalities or private lives.

Then why would you open this thread, much less post here?

[quote] The monthly round up on DL. The personalities and events frozen in time, long long ago.

It sounds like this is the wrong place for you too. Maybe you'd be better off elsewhere to discuss the fresh and the now, Miss Youthquake 2022.

Yes, stunt bottoming and stunt dicking was a thing in the 80s and 90s when a performer couldn't get it up or refused to bottom. They'd they try to get someone whose dick or ass looked similar and do very tight camera angles, hoping viewers wouldn't notice.

And speaking of Ryan Idol, he was one of the most difficult to work with. He could get away with it because his movies sold big. His behavior on the set of Idol in the Sky and on the set of the play Making Porn was infamous.

It's funny how much changed in porn, r11, after they invented Viagra. After that, anyone could get it up for a shoot, even if they weren't gay. But before then it was always one of the most enormous problems in production when the top couldn't get hard.

R11. Rain Idol was A FUCKING diva Listen to Chi Chi @ the link

He was hot sex. I had him in that hotel adjacent to the defunct Boom Boom Room in Laguna. May he and it RIP.

Another pain in the ass was Christian Fox - "Chi Chi, who believes that Christian came into the business with problems from his childhood (also like Stefano), says that Fox was the most difficult person he had ever directed. For this reason his career had basically ended."

John Rocklin threw a fit on the set of Big Guns at the prospect of having to suck a dick. He didn’t have problems getting fucked by a dick apparently.

Ryan Idol was represented by porn manager / pimp of the (porn) stars David Forest.

[quote] For three decades, he drove up prices (at one point in the ’90s, he negotiated a two-movie deal for Ryan Idol for $40,000).

R12

Viagra doesn't increase or change your libido automatically; you have to be sexually aroused for it to work.

I've read about porn stars - particularly Gay for Pay - using Viagra to get through scenes, but everyone is fooling themselves that it's the "thing" that makes them hard. G4P especially give away their true natures if they say they're getting hard because of Viagra, when in truth they're getting hard because they are sexually aroused by a man.

Now, the injections in the dick do work without a need to be sexually aroused.

R4 That's because you're a sane person.

W&W, r10.

Kurt Marshall.

Difficult in this context meaning what?

Late? Drugged up?

Viagra makes you horny. It does that thing where it flushes blood to your loins (the part on either side of the public bone near the top of the thighs that tingles when you orgasm) and that in itself makes your horny.

I’ve heard of loin of pork.

[quote]A common misconception, Viagra (Sildenafil) doesn't make you horny or give you an instant erection. It's designed as a safe and effective erectile dysfunction treatment. Viagra (Sildenafil) works only after you're sexually aroused to help you achieve and sustain an erection.

[quote]Some men choose to take Viagra (Sildenafil) occasionally, believing it makes you last longer and improves your sexual performance. That's untrue. Taking it without having ED can actually be a danger to your health.

[quote]If you don't have erectile dysfunction, don't take Viagra (Sildenafil) recreationally as it won't make you last longer or improve your libido. Instead, it puts you at risk for serious side effects.

R23 has a public bone.

In the early ‘90s I remember a blurb on a gay porn mag, in which a director said the two worst pornstars to direct were Tom Farrell & Leo Masters. He implied they were really arrogant, & said they should marry each other (a ludicrous idea at the time!)

But he made for a very convincing nasty sadistic TOP though, so there’s that

Matt Wurking over his Slaves

I couldn’t remember the name of the guy. But wasn’t topher DiMaggio a diva. He must be like 36 now. Haven’t heard about him in a long time, they said he threw someone on a fire at a bar or something

No mercy

R28

Was wondering which porn star is the "very convincing nasty sadistic TOP"?

Jeremy Tucker must’ve been a peach: he went onstage at a gay porn awards show/AIDS fundraiser & said he hoped all the people in the room would get the disease!

Are we running out stuff to discuss on DL now?

R32: Matt Gunther of course, the ‘Diva’ mentioned by OP

That’s him at r29 and r31, doing his bit

Matt fucking a bottom

Quite big cock

Was Joey Stefano difficult?

Billy Santoro was allegedly a nightmare control freak to work with.

The biggest problems are actually usually the ones who show up stoned, drunk, or otherwise fucked up.

Shawn Mendes.

Al Parker, however, was always professional and easy to work with.

Was Kyle McKenna hard to work with?

R23 You're not very bright

r43, you're talking to someone's post from more than three months ago.

R18 I’ve worked on both gay and straight porn shoots and there’s zero difference.

It’s not about getting “aroused”, it’s about keeping your dick hard regardless of arousal. It’s really a metal thing with lots of viagra and lots of editing. But I’ve been on straight sets with guys watching porn on their phone to get hard. It’s the same on gay sets.

Some scenes are edited together very tightly. A scene can be 20 minutes long but take 2-3 hours and the guy could only get it up for under 10 minutes.

Director George Duroy on Pavel Novotny/Max Orloff:

"I consider Max Orloff to be my biggest missed opportunity,” says George Duroy. “He is one of the very few models to become as big a star as Lukas Ridgeston. He was the entire package: A beautiful face with an incredible body, a huge cock and extreme cumshots.” Max had a very strong personality and could be difficult. Bel Ami shot several very strong episodes with him, but each one required so much patience and determination that in the end, George simply gave up. “I am sorry to this day for it,” he says, “because I firmly believe Max had the best porn star material of virtually anyone I have met in my career.” Max was a natural-born exhibitionist with no sexual inhibitions. He would happily take out his beautiful cock anywhere and savored the scandal (and curiosity!) it would generate. “His lack of inhibition created problems,” George recalls. “He had no brakes.” For example, Max created trouble on the set of “Greek Holiday” when he threatened to fuck Tim Hamilton until his ass was bloody. It took some time to calm everyone down to complete the scene. A true manipulator, Max could be a solid professional in short bursts. But if filming lingered, he would become restless and his menacing tendencies would surface. Such unpredictability creates highly unstable, time-consuming and expensive delays in filming. Once a soccer player who ruled the field with powerful kicks, Max for a time ruled the porn world in similar fashion. Despite all his trouble, George still considers Max the ultimate materialization of erotic fantasy. “Max epitomizes everything about sex,” he says.

R46 , what is Max/Pavel's sexual orientation in real life?

[quote]r46 “Max had a very strong personality and could be difficult.”

Nothing a good kick in the cunt bone couldn’t cure, surely.

R46 Thanks for sharing that - very interesting! I don't think I'd ever even heard of him.

R49 - Here you go

Any relation?

R50 Thank you, I like all of that!

Back in the day David Ashfield was one of the, if not the, most popular stunt dicks for the lads who couldn't bring themselves to stick a dick in an arse. Ashfield had one of the most beautiful pieces of equipment in the industry in those days. In 'Idol Eyes', which I think was Idol's first porn video, he couldn't or wouldn't put his dick in Joey Stefano's rear portal and they reportedly called in David Ashfield to do the dirty, no pun intended.

Back in the day Tony Capucci had a bad rap I think

Did Max Orloff meet the same fate as Veal Prince Orloff?

Apparently there was at least one fellow porn star Matt Gunther was intimidated by, and that was Jon Vincent. But then I think most of his fellow performers were somewhat intimidated by him. Vincent was a take no prisoners kind of guy.

Pavel Novotny reportedly got into a brawl in Cuba that resulted in him being imprisoned until George Michael bailed him out.

Chi Chi said he didn’t get like Trevor Knight.

I suppose you’d tolerate any amount of bad behavior when you have someone like Pavel.

Was Phil Bradley difficult?

BB.