What lost/missing films would you most like to see?

And what makes you think those two hours will be any less boring, turgid, histrionic and down right shitty that the four hours we have all already suffered through OP?

The Golden Compass with the full ending.

R1, my main concern is just to enjoy watching Elizabeth Taylor

The initial 182 minute cut of the Judy Garland version of “A Star is Born”

London After Midnight, the Lon Chaney vampire movie that was lost.

"Him," the gay pron film from the 1970s that depicted the life of Jesus as a gay man.

Agree with LONDON AFTER MIDNIGHT (1927). Directed by Todd Browning.

An electrical short spark at an MGM film vault was all it took to ignite a cache of highly explosive nitrate film stock on August 10, 1965, reducing the vault content to ash. The last known copies of "London After Midnight" and a handful of other silent films were lost to the flames.

I recently watched “Mark of the Vampire”, which was Browning’s quasi-remake (in sound) of “London After Midnight”. It’s a great movie, even with the silly bat effects which look extremely dated. I was reading the Wikipedia entry for “London After Midnight” shortly after, and, according to some film scholars, it would likely be an overall disappointment if we were able to see it—apparently the ghoulishness captured in the still photographs only accounts for a small portion of the film.

This sounds interesting.

'The Day the Clown Cried' directed by and starring Jerry Lewis

The missing footage from The Lady from Shanghai.

.Orson Welles was particularly aggrieved by the cuts in the climactic confrontation scene in an amusement park funhouse at the end of the film. Intended as a climactic tour-de-force of editing and production design, the scene was cut to less than three minutes out of an intended running time of twenty minutes. As with many of the films over which Welles did not have control over the final cut, the missing footage has not been found and is presumed to have been destroyed. Surviving production stills show elaborate and expensive sets that were built for the sequence and which were entirely cut from the film

The director's cut of 'The Horn Blows at Midnight'.

Jerry Lewis in "The Day the Clown Died".

R13, are you too freakin' lazy to read THREE POSTS ABOVE YOURS?

I would say Cleopatra and London After Midnight, I think those are the most famous.

The Day The Clown Cried was never finished.

Chronicles of Narnia 4-7

Greta Garbo’s The Divine Woman (1925). The master print was destroyed for its nitrate to fight in WWI.

The 40 minute long missing footage of Cruising, supposed to be nothing but unsimulated s&m sex between extras.

Who watched CLEOPATRA and thought, ‘This really needs to be two hours longer’?

The original Gentlemen Prefer Blondes.

Thank you, R14

It's not technically "lost" but I would love for someone to find another print of Frank Perry's Last Summer that was in good enough condition to restore and put on blu-ray. There was a 16mm print found in Australia some years back and it has been screened in LA a few times, but it is not in the best of shape, and it's also the censored version.

'Convention City'. The head of the studio personally burned all trace of the movie, including the film itself, to forestall the imposition of the Code. Obviously, the gesture was not enough.

Ruth Taylor, who played Lorelei in the lost 1928 version of [italic]Gentlemen Prefer Blondes,[/italic] was the mother of actor/comic/screenwriter Buck Henry.

Joan Crawford's 'Letty Lynton'. It's a frustrating "lost" movie because it is withheld from the public due to copyright issues.

There was a full length ice skating scene filmed for Mommie Dearest. Joan keeps falling down but getting back up, blood ensued. Wish it would surface.

The uncut version of Erich von Stroheim's Greed

R9 it is interesting, to say the least. I have seen that film a couple of times, and it is truly one of the most depraved, creepiest films I've ever seen. It's a technical mess (it was made on literally no budget) but is still somehow quite arty and surreal. It's also just plain nasty. The whole thing looks like a snuff film shot by the Manson family and just emanates evil. I've read about the supposed 3-hour-long cut of the film, but I am not sure I believe it ever existed. There is folklore that it was shown once in Chicago or something, and that the theater "burned down" after the screening. Sounds apocryphal to me.

R24, you don’t mean…*gasp*…our RUTH TAYLOR, THE MOTHER OF BILL?!?

A second vote for the original cut of Judy's "A Star is Born".

I would also love to see the original cut of "The Wizard of Oz" containing the truly frightening Wicked Witch the pussies back then had butchered and "The Jitterbug" number.

"Accident eh? Didn't mean it? Well my little pretty, I can cause accidents too! And this is how I do it!"

I have a copy of Letty Lynton so it can be found.

"Manhold" aka "Manhole" in 3D. One of Jamie Gillis' rare gay moves. Rumor has it it starred DeVeren Bookwalter who was the villain in the new Dirty Harry movie "The Enforcer" and Warners paid for it to disappear. Gay movies usually only had a few prints struck so it would be easy to do it.

LOOKING FOR MR. GOODBAR (1977). Music copyright disputes.

I'd also like to see Convention City, but the rumor that the studio burned all copies because of the Code isn't true. There were at least two screenings of Convention City in mid to late 1930s, after the Code was enacted, though we don't know if they were the edited versions from after the Code, or the originals. Original pre-Code versions of films were often rented out individually, as long as they were not being shown to general audiences.

Also, in the early 1950s when TV stations were looking for content to fill unscheduled timeslots, WB listed Convention City as a possible rental. However, the film was never rented out as far as anyone knows, probably because they later realized it was already "junked." The studio records show the film was destroyed in late 1948, during the time when the studios were destroying nitrate copies for safety reasons and to free up storage, and also to sell the silver content.

Turner Classics has played "Looking For Mr. Goodbar" a few times in the last five years.

Yes, I know. However I want an official DVD/Blu-ray release.

Last House on Dead End Street did have a cut that was nearly 3 hours long and was shown at Cannes and another festival, but was never shown in the US. Watkins tried claiming he showed it in New York or some place and it caused riots, but that never happened.

The Magnificent Ambersons as Welles originally shot it.

Buster Keaton's The Cameraman, which is only partially preserved.

This is the content I come to DataLounge for

I cannot believe it took this long for The Magnificent Ambersons to get a mention.

I would have expected it to be first.

[quote] Yes, I know. However I want an official DVD/Blu-ray release.

That's not the same as lost/missing. You can get a copy of Goodbar on YouTube if you're diligent. I've downloaded two of them, the 2nd one was HD and 16x9. It is shown on tCM with some regularity and is far from lost.

The silent version of "The Great Gatsby" with William Powell.

The cutting room footage of Kevin Costner in The Big Chill.

Aside from Cleopatra (1963), what other Elizabeth Taylor movies have missing/lost footage?

Jealousy with Jeanne Eagels. 1929.

The complete Queen Kelly

GREED

I'm going to read the novel that Greed was based on

The 3-hour version of Salo, 120 Days of Sodom. It should be phenomenal, especially the shit-eating part.

Isn't it that 50% of the films before 1950 are lost?

r50 = Danny Thomas

Another vote for von Stroheim's "Greed."

"This is the content I come to DataLounge for"

Well honey you must be chronically disappointed.

Any of the many lost Theda Bara films.

Faye's footage of Master Class.

Joan's footage from Hush, Hush...

Liza's Evita screen test

The original Phantom of the opera film from 1915 or so.

Also, Liv Ullman's Streetcar named desire starring Cate Blanchett from 2009...I know for sure they they taped it, its in the vaults of the NYPL but it's harder to access than nuclear detonation codes.

Alfred Hitchcock's Torn Curtain with the original Bernard Herrmann score (which was scrapped and replaced by an unremarkable score by John Addison).

The long version of Robert Altman's Nashville, which was supposed to air as an ABC miniseries.

The 129-minute version of Dan Curtis' Night of Dark Shadows (which was cut to 94 minutes).

I also believe the movie Somewhere in Time was originally 20 minutes longer, but was cut - and I'd be curious about that.

R32 - that movie also featured Wade Nichols (AKA Dennis Parker).

R59, do you mean the German version? That is on my list.

The 1925 silent version with Lon Chaney is also on my list. Most people do not realize that a great deal of what is in the current "silent" version is actually reshoots from the 1929, semi-sound version.

The Hungarian version of Dracula that predates Nostferatu.

Merton of the Movies- considered the best movie of 1924.

The Cat Creeps.

All of the lost Murnau films.

a lot of silents, both lost and reconstructed, including Greed.

Yes I meant that one but the 1926 version is available everywhere

[quote]Rumor has it it starred DeVeren Bookwalter who was the villain in the new Dirty Harry movie "The Enforcer" and Warners paid for it to disappear.

I guess they were fine with his Warhol film, r32...

R64 was meant for R62

R64, yes, *a* version of the silent Phantom of the Opera is available every where. The problem is that the version that is "available everywhere" is not the 1925 version as it was originally screened. It is basically the 1929 semi-sound version without the soundtrack.

The "lost" episode of Helen Lawson guest-starring on "Sesame Street".

Her DNA was *all* over the shredded felt, r68.

Brittany Murphy's screen test for the never made Janis Joplin biopic used to be on a Facebook page. She sings "Piece of My Heart".

Lost Horizon 1937 has missing scenes as well as some degraded visuals. Such a shame.

Found it on Internet Archive.

The Wind, directed by Victor Sjöström and starring Lilian Gish. The studio objected to the very downbeat ending (Gish murders everyone and then wanders off into a sandstorm). The ending was reshot and a “happy” ending was tacked on. The new ending is ridiculous and makes no sense in the context of the storyline.

Oops. Murphy sings "Me and Bobby McGee".

Lety Lynton for R25 - not the best quality. Try to enjoy!

R33 - Mr Goodbar

R58 - surely there were others who did screen tests for Evita when Ken Russell was going to direct?

The uncut version of "House of 1000 Corpses." There are many scenes believed to be lost forever, such as scenes Jeanne Carmen shot for the film in which she played a character named Miss Bunny, a woman who put on puppet shows with dead animals.

The Babushka Lady's film.

*the Letty Lynton dress*

Kim Wilde

Another vote for the never completed Jerry Lewis clown movie.🤡

Letty Lynton - the free download takes 15m approx.

All American Massacre

A low budget spinoff of Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 directed by Tobe Hooper's son which would be all about the character Chop Top. It was completed, but 22 years later, it has never been released.

Extended director's cut of "The Mirror Has Two Faces"

A decent quality version of Abby.

Despite there being plenty of other Exorcist ripoffs, Warner Bros. were complete pricks about this one. It is said they ordered all prints destroyed after winning their lawsuit and they've made it so a very, very shitty quality version is all that has been available for years.

My family took some home movies down at the Jersey shore in the 70s that we lost when we dropped them off to be processed at one of those little Kodak parking lot booths I’d like to finally see.

Who the fuck was Kim Wilde?

I’m pissed at Spielberg for not including the Black & White Ball sequence for The Post on its DVD. Jefferson Mays played Truman Capote literally on his knees. And the Ann Roth costumes were reportedly Oscar-worthy.

[quote]Who the fuck was Kim Wilde?

Her...I guess.

[quote] Who the fuck was Kim Wilde?

Oscar's wife, Rose.

Kids in America.

She doesn't strike me as a very compelling Eva...

The Patriot - 1928 East Lynne - 1931 The White Parade - 1934

Just so I can be an Oscar completist

Right, r93? I'd give up Cavalcade if I could see those three movies instead.

I'm old enough to remember when The Racket, nominated for Best Picture in 1929, was thought lost. Maybe those three missing films will turn up eventually.

Is the original Lon Phantom so different from the later one that's now widely available?

...is it only the first cut that had the original ending, where Christine kisses him and he dies at the organ and is found by the mob?

I know the chase scene ending was added by an action director brought in to "fix it" because folks in the audience at the time wanted to see the Phantom pay for his crimes...but my understanding was that the "broken heart/organ death/redemption" ending was just from an early cut, barely seen. That the chase ending was the one widely distributed...

Am I wrong?

In any case, there was a guy on some Phantom boards years ago claiming the original redemption ending footage had been found, and the estates were figuring out how to release it, yadda yadda yadda, and Phans online were super riled up about it when he talked in circles and never produced anything....

I wonder what happened to him. In the end, he wrote some "screw you all/you're not worth it/the truth is out there/your treatment of me makes my sharing what I have impossible" blog post/official statement. Most people assumed he lied from the start about the footage being found just to get attention. So lame.

By this point, if it was even still around, at almost 100 years old, it would be in terrible shape.

This is tangential, but one of my most poignant childhood memories involves my budding interest in silent movies. I was probably 11 or 12 and had checked out a number of library books on the topic, including a book about Louise Brooks.

One day my mom told me, quite unceremoniously, that a significant number (I think she said more than half, but I now know the number is much higher) of silent films had been lost. We were on vacation at the time, and I remember retreating to my room and lying down on my bed, overcome with a strange melancholy.

All the lost/deleted Gone with the wind footage.

Another vote for Stroheim's uncut Greed.

A great loss to film history.

The original cut of I’ll Do Anything by James L Brooks. It was shot as a full musical with songs by the likes of Sinead O'Conner and Carole King and choreography by Twyla Tharp. It tested so badly that they cut all the songs and turned it into a totally forgettable piece of nothing. Oh to see Nick Nolte and Julie Kavner sing and dance!

[quote]In any case, there was a guy on some Phantom boards years ago claiming the original redemption ending footage had been found, and the estates were figuring out how to release it, yadda yadda yadda, and Phans online were super riled up about it when he talked in circles and never produced anything....

Was it that Sid Terror guy, or am I thinking of a different hoax?

My vote goes to the 1937 von Stroheim I, Clauduis, with Charles Laughton, Merle Oberon, and Emly Williams . Would be fascinating to compare it with the television series.

Song of the South - I think I saw it in the 70s when I was a young kid, but would to see it again just to see what the fuss is about.

R93, I believe that both East Lynn and White Parade are not lost. the UCLA archives have the only prints and are total dicks about letting anyone have access. East Lynn is available but is missing the final 10 minutes. Someone on YouTube has posted a video claiming to have the last ten minutes. I have not had time to see the video.

PS, the UCLA print of East Lynn is supposedly complete.

Song of the South is out there on DVD, R102. At least I've seen it listed on eBay (though I'm not sure whether the listings were authentic DVDs or pirated versions).

BUCK ROGERS IN THE 25th CENTURY(1979). Original theatrical release with Glen Larson opening title sequence.

I would love to see "Last Summer" with Barbara Hershey, Bruce Davison, Richard Thomas, and Catherine Burns, who got an Oscar nomination for her role in it.

It's not available on DVD or streaming. It's as if it just vanished.

[quote] The Magnificent Ambersons as Welles originally shot it.

Absolutely — I love the film as-is so was shocked to read how bitter Welles was about the studio edit. I can only imagine how “magnificent” it was when edited as Welles intended.

Not a movie, but...Turn-On...

By the way, what I’d REALLY love would be to see the Mary Tyler Moore show episodes as originally aired on CBS in the 70s. They were edited for syndication and those are the only copies left.

However, now and again original reels come up for auction of the show on eBay and other auction sites.

Id say the same thing about the original BBC broadcast of Tinker Tailor, which was edited for American broadcast on PBS. The original BBC version was lost and only the edited version survives AFAIK.

(That’s how Monty Python survived too btw — the beeb recycled the tapes, but an American station kept the tapes.)

9 1/2 Weeks. Apparently Kim Basinger owns the deleted footage.

As long as we're including TV, I'd love to see the original, rejected attempt at the Game Of Thrones pilot.

r107, it was on TCM not that long ago, so there are going to be copies out there.

I take back "not that long ago" at r113, it was apparently about a decade ago, but the HD TCM copy of "Last Summer" is out there. Try Cinemageddon.

Not lost in the exact sense but...I'd love to see the Blade Runner Sequel with David Bowie in his intended role, instead of creepo Jared Leto.

The original pilot for the Happyish TV show with Philip Seymour Hoffman.

I’m just glad that Margaret Hamilton Sesame Street episode finally emerged.

GOLD DIGGERS OF BROADWAY(1929) which was one of the first two-strip Technicolor musicals and the highest-grossing movie of its day. Only fragments exist, including part of the finale (linked below) which impressed me to no end.

The original 1923 black-and-white silent film version was recently found somewhere in England a year or two ago. However, most people are more familiar with the 1933 b&w version retitled GOLD DIGGERS OF 1933 (who said they didn't constantly remake shit back then?) starring Ginger Rogers, Dick Powell, Ruby Keeler, Joan Blondell, etc. and featuring classic musical numbers "Forgotten Man" and "We're In the Money" (the latter was included in a scene from the Beatty/Dunaway BONNIE AND CLYDE).

[QUOTE](That’s how Monty Python survived too btw — the beeb recycled the tapes, but an American station kept the tapes.)

I was wondering why films or TV from the 60s or 70s would be missing until I read this and about MTM edits for syndication. Blows my mind that something like budgetary issues or running out of storage space dictates whether material is tossed.

I imagine that that one station's decision to keep the tapes translated into revenue for the Pythons across the years. And the BBC, too maybe? (though they probably don't deserve it for their lack of foresight)

Y’all are worried about some MTM lost episodes footage Don’t you know how NASA fucked up?

Dr. Magnus Hirschfeld's "Anders als die andern" (1919 German silent movie), the first gay movie that survives only im fragments.

GORE, the 2018 Netflix biopic of Gore Vidal Starring Kevin Spacey. Shooting had been 100% completed with an additional three weeks of postproduction when the film was halted due to breaking allegations against Spacey. A shame, as it was nearly finished and had the potential to be fascinating, with actors portraying the likes of Johnny Carson, Rudolph Nureyev and Griffin Dunne as Leonard Berstein.

Why title it GORE? I think most people would think it was a biopic about Al Gore.

R122 I'm really pissed off that Gore has been shelved.

I've never been a fan of Kevin Spacey but this was a film a was really looking forward to. If Netflix are so sensitive to completing post-production and streaming Gore I don't understand why they continue to show films and TV shows with Kevin Spacey.

And besides plenty of other people worked on the film and have a right for their work to be seen.

F.W. Murnau's Four Devils (1928).

There are rumours that the lead actress who hated the film held the last surviving print and flung it into the ocean in the 1950s.

Him (1974) a gay porno about Jesus Christ.

Would love to see the footage Brian De Palma filmed with Sissy Spacek playing six year old Carrie. There is only a still left.

I can't find it on the internet to post it but Spacek is peering through a white picket fence.

thought that said peeing ...

Heavy Equipment, the 1977 gay porn film with 3D sex scenes. Okay, it's not lost or missing but it definitely could use a drastic remastering. I have it on a crappy bootleg anaglyph 3D DVD and it looks pretty shoddy. But it has hilarious dialogue that approaches John Waters territory and actually has a "story". And the sex scenes are hot, hot, HOT, and fun in 3D. C'mon Criterion Collection, find those 16mm negatives and take one for the team.

DLers rejoice! Fans of lost films, and of "Psycho Beach Party" and "Die, Mommy Die" comes a new comedy "The Sixth Reel" by Charles Busch in early 2023. When the death of a close friend unearths the long-thought lost final reel of the classic Tod Browning horror film "London After Midnight", Jimmy and his cohorts each concoct underhanded schemes involving false romances, drag personas…and maybe vampires?…to cash in on a big sale of the film. But can the urge to bring the moviegoing community together with this lost classic prevail over the desire to get rich quick? With Charles Busch, Tim Daly and Margaret Cho.

[quote]I’m just glad that Margaret Hamilton Sesame Street episode finally emerged.

I saw it when I was a kid and didn't even know it was lost until the news that it was found came out. The same goes for a Sesame Street cartoon called "Cracks" which I saw so many times I had it memorized.

R130 I didn't even recognize Tim Daly. God, he looks old! And thin!

R129 There was another 3D gay porn film made in 1978 called "Manhole." It was never released, though, because one of its stars, DeVeren Bookwalter, had landed a mainstream movie role, and he was successful in keeping the film from being distributed.

The movie also starred Jamie Gillis in one of this few gay films. I'd love to see it.

Milos Forman's Hair with the missing musical numbers back in. There's some question as to how many of them were actually shot.

The deleted scenes and alternate ending of Death Becomes Her. A lot of the deleted scenes can be seen in the trailer.

DAWSON'S *EIGHTY* LOAD WEEKEND - the director's cut.

Would love to see James L. Brooks' I'll Do Anything (1994) with all it's musical numbers put back into the film.

R136 Considering all the coverage they shoot for porn scenes, I’m always surprised that studios don’t cut together whole other versions of popular porns to make even more money off them. It’s not like it needs a plot or anyone is worried about continuity, especially in orgy or gangbang scenes.

Any of the scenes from VOTD with Judy. And of course, the scrapped reality show with Liza and David.

[quote]And of course, the scrapped reality show with Liza and David.

Did they actually shoot footage for that?

Do we have the actual episodes of Joan Crawford pinch hitting for Cristina on the soap opera when she got her appendix out or whatever illness she had? They would be a hoot and play in gay bars on a loop.

The 1960 crime drama The High Powered Rifle with Willard Parker and Allison Hayes.

Most of the rest of Allison's crime dramas from United Artists are on EPIX - but this particular quickie released by 20 Century-Fox has disappeared.

Just being a curious about this obviously low budget/nothing film. Director Maury Dexter doesn't know if it's available either.....he hasn't seen it since it's original release.....which may be a clue.

It's not just CLASSICS that get lost.

Color version of Under the Cherry Moon

Another vote for Convention City, can someone please find it already!!!

R141 My mom was a huge Secret Storm fan, and she told me about watching when Joan substituted for Christina. She said she laughed out loud watching this 50-something woman standing in for her 20-something daughter.

Song of the South is on the Internet Archive.

This Thing Called Love, lost 1929 romantic comedy starring Edmund Lowe, Constance Bennett, Ruth Taylor, Roscoe Karns, ZaSu Pitts, and Jean Harlow

Sounds like it was a fun early talkie with some great female stars

Only the audio exists, r141...

"The Rogue Song" Oscar nominated for Best Actor for Met Opera star Lawrence Tibbett, and is the only color film with Laurel and Hardy. Some sequences still remain, as does the complete soundtrack. Tibbett had a gorgeous baritone voice and was in some other films, too.

The uncut musical sequences of Marilyn Miller's "Sunny", and the complete color version of her "Sally".

[quote] Song of the South - I think I saw it in the 70s when I was a young kid, but would to see it again just to see what the fuss is about.

An old black man walks down a road singing 'Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah' to imaginary birds fluttering around his head. What's wrong with that?

r129 Here ya go. Enjoy.

I adore Jack Wrangler. Too bad that old hag, Margaret Whiting, got him first.

r148 Joan really look like Norma Desmond in that pic.

R126 sounds hot

R151 The nerd with the glasses in that one is Steve Tracy, who played Nelly's husband Percy in "Little House on the Prairie."

R139, the Liza and David pilot is on YouTube!

I've always been curious to see the original ending to "The Fan" The LAUREN BACALL version, not that Wesley Snipes thing. I read the original ending had to be reshot as John Lennon was murdered while the film was in production.

OP, when they did edit Cleopatra's 6 hours, you assume they kept the best bits. Can you imagine the rest ?

Pee girl tapes

R155, Nelly Olsen's nelly gay husband did gay porn?!

He was not in any of the pron sequences.

Guilt by association, r161.

Routledge's Not on Your Nellie on Sullivan.

Merman in "Granny Get Your Gun" on tv - full show

The nerd was cuter, too bad he's a goner.

It pops up occasionally on the Internet before it's quickly withdrawn (it's available in Europe) in the US because of rights issues: John Cromwell's THE SILVER CORD (33). It's pretty great, I think.

A monstrously needy mother, Laura Hope Crews (GWTW's Aunt Pittypat), is quasi-incestuously possessive of her handsome sons Eric Linden and Joel McCrea. An Irene Dunne movie that's never been on TCM to my knowledge.

R134, “Frank Mills” was definitely shot in front of the Waverly in November 1977. A friend of mine was an extra on it that night.

I was an extra on it as well, r167, and it was shot during the day.

"The Silver Cord" has been on TCM. It was very good.

"The Rogue Song" has been put together in 2020 using the full soundtrack and lots of photos and available footage on YouTube. Lawrence Tibbett's voice is wonderful.

Three HBO pilots that sit in a vault:

The Corrections-with Ewan McGregor, Chris Cooper and Dianne Wiest, directed by Noah Baumbach

The Miraculous Year-with Norbert Leo Butz (as a meth addict Broadway composer), Susan Sarandon, Frank Langella, Eddie Redmayne, Hope Davis, Linus Roache and Patti LuPone, directed by Oscar winner Kathryn Bigelow

Spring/Fall-with Sigourney Weaver, Tea Leoni and Hope Davis, set in the world of high fashion.

I'd like to see the security video of Bea Arthur going number 2 in a co-worker's dressing room.

R102 isnt it available online? I mean a crappy version no doubt but it's still out there...wasnt it on VHS in the 80s?

R100 Can't remember the guy's name, sorry. This was around....2008 maybe? Why, what was Sid's story?

So gay, I know, but I'd love to see all that footage, including songs, that was cut from Streisand's FUNNY GIRL and especially ON A CLEAR DAY. I always figured that Streisand had it in her private collection but maybe back then she really didn't have the clout to save it and keep it.

All the missing episodes of The Avengers, Doctor Who, Hancock's Half Hour and Public Eye.

Song Of The South was legitimately released by Disney on laser disc in Japan. A US release was expected and it was rumored Disney asked a pre-View Whoopi to do an introduction, addressing, and then smoothing over, the racial issues.

Obviously Disney canceled all subsequent release plans when people began to protest - I think it was around the era of the Rodney King.

I'd love to see all of the deleted MGM musical numbers that have never seen the light of day. There have been many incredible finds, but the Astaire numbers from The Bandwagon, the Gene Kelly ballad dances from Brigadoon and Singin' In The Rain seem to have disappeared, as well as Judy Garland's numbers from The Pirate.

There is also a lavish missing Astaire sequence and an Avon Long song and dance removed from Ziegfeld Follies, both lost to the aforementioned MGM fire that destroyed most of Garbo's Divine Woman and London After Midnight.

There's also a Michael Kidd solo number which Gene Kelly, apparently because of jealousy, had them take out of "It's Always Fair Weather".

Well, now we know why the Liza/David show was scrapped.

R178, the Michael Kidd number is on the bluray of It's Always Fair Weather, along with the Love Is Nothing But A Racket song and dance with Gene and Cyd.

Gene, once he had the power, did reduce the solo numbers of several second male leads, especially in Brigadoon and An American In Paris (another film with a deleted, still-missing Gene Kelly ballad dance, this time to I've Got A Crush On You.)

Another HBO pilot sitting in a vault-

The Money-with Brendan Gleeson, Nathan Lane, Morgan Spector, Ruth Negga and Andrea Riseborough, a precursor to Succession

"War Brides" and "A Doll's House", which are two silent films starring Alla Nazimova

R184 - Barbra has some of the Funny Girl cut footage as she allowed the Swan Lake deleted bit to be screened at an event.

The Robert Altman directed The Laundromat with Carol Burnett and Amy Madigan.

R177 - re The Voodoo number from The Pirate isn't the story that Louis B Mayer ordered the footage to be burned because it was so hot?

Joan: her Hush Hush Sweet Charlotte. She completed all the location shooting and a few days at the studio and her character makes a late entrance in the film anyway.

Joan: her drunk scene in The Best of Everything that she said explained her character and made her more sympathetic

Judy: A Star Is Born, the very first version publicly screened - 182 minutes, even the restoration is still missing a few minutes

Judy: her day of shooting on Valley of the Dolls

Judy: the rest of her Annie Get Your Gun footage, her deleted Voodoo number from The Pirate

Porgy and Bess - it's out there, but badly needs restoring

How to Succeed - the Coffee Break number

Top Banana - the rest of the show

the TV Annie Get Your Gun with Merman

Last Summer - the X rated version

Here ya go, R184

[quote][R177] - re The Voodoo number from The Pirate isn't the story that Louis B Mayer ordered the footage to be burned because it was so hot?

I have no idea what was filmed, but the audio still exists to "Voodoo" and it is terrible.

I'd love to see "Boys and Girls Like You and Me" edited from "Meet Me in St. Louis" which in the film follows "The Trolly Song" basically when they arrive at the fairgrounds. Judy recorded four songs for "Life Begins for Andy Hardy", but I'm not sure any were filmed. Also the big original finale to "Presenting Lily Mars" was a production number called "Paging Mr. Greenbacks" which has never been found. It was replaced by the over the top "Where There's Music/Broadway Rhythm" finale which ends the film now.

[quote] "War Brides" and "A Doll's House", which are two silent films starring Alla Nazimova

A henrik Ibsen play without spoken dialogue would be like fornicating with the physically disabled.

"Tu n'apouseras jamais un avocet" (1914) - the Feuillade film with Musidora. But, of course, we're all looking for that one.

If we can extend this to other art forms, I would be very interested in finally seeing this lost Frida Kahlo painting.

Good man r188, you know your Garland!!

Regarding Voodoo, the song is indeed abysmal which is probably why Minnelli sexed up the number. I know the story is Minnelli said "burn it", but I always thought that would make someone keep a copy no matter what.

I do wonder if the missing Astaire numbers were found, but his greedy Widow prevented them from being released. I also would LOVE to see the famous, EMMY award winning Astaire tv specials he did with the still-living Barrie Chase. They were released at the dawn of the VHS era and were quite expensive. They should be restored and released!

Aahh...of course I meant "Mayer", not Minnelli!

Fred and Barrie.

another one.

Norby, the first TV series filmed entirely in color. Apparently most of its 13 episodes are thought to have been lost in a warehouse fire, but considering the opening credits are on Youtube, maybe some of them survived.

R187. Thanks. This is one of Altman's turgid stinkers where the only ones having a good time are the actors.

The Pirate Voodoo song audio.

That 1984 HBO movie that had that couple (forget the actresses name/will look up) where they ate tons of spaghetti. Got me hooked on FRANCO-AMERICAN canned spaghetti (gag). Most cable-originated movies are never released on video. (I.e. Let them all talk with M. Or Don’t look Up).

R1, I agree with OP. Also, some of the best parts of the movie were cut. These dealt further with Cleopatra's love affairs with Caesar and Antony. This would've added more richness to the film.

BRACKEN'S WORLD (in decent quality). There are a few episodes on YouTube but not easy to watch. Also, I'd love to see the sitcom FAYE with Lee Grant.

It's FAY, not FAYE, little homosexual boy!

Not to be confused with the lost sitcom FAYE starring Faye Dunaway, where she played a dominatrix in a strip mall in New Jersey.

The Patriot 1927.

The original cut of nanook of the North. About an Eskimo who a filmmaker followed. The rim was lost to a fire in the warehouse where it was stored.

The lost footage from The Devils.

I would like to see the original cut of Frankie and Johnny with Helen Morgan. Apparently, a large portion takes place in a bordello which sent the censors into a tizzy. I have not seen the extant version, but its is apparently incomprehensible.

Been looking forever for the 1975 BBC miniseries of MOLL FLANDERS starring Julia Foster. Saw it years ago and it was so charming and fun, much better than the later one.

Also, I'd love to see the orginal TV version of THE CATERED AFFAIR starring Thelma Ritter.

The hardcore footage from Flesh Gordon.

R186, thanks for mentioning Top Banana. I've seen that several times on TCM. It's not Hollywood or a reinterpreted movie musical. Somebody had the wonderful idea in 1954 to just film a popular 50s Broadway musical comedy onstage, I assume with the original cast. It's primitive cinema but it's a time machine to the 50s. Phil Silvers is a revelation. TV and the movies really slowed him down. But then they had to make cuts to make it as short as a movie musical. Would love to see the whole thing as filmed.

The cut pieces from Event Horizon

R197 If you take out the large cast of actors from his movies you'd be left with a confused mess.

R10, its not lost,its going to released in 2024. Jerry Lewis donated it the Library of Congress with the stipulation that it not be released until after he died. Criterion reportedly has it ready to go.

The way of All Flesh (Emil Jannings—maybe the only Oscar winning performance not available).

A lot of you are listing deleted scenes. We're talking about "LOST" movies of footage. Get it.

A lot of material that was cut from films is lost now and won't ever be seen again.

There is no lost footage from The Devils. WB just won't release it.

Queen Kelly and I Claudius don't have lost footage(I mean there might be a little) because they simply weren't completed. Though what was filmed for both films is wonderful.

Irene Selznick was at that famous preview of Greed and writes about it in her autobio. She says it was awful. There was already enormous controversy before the preview and she says she wanted to love the film but she found it very tedious. Though I would love to see it. But those six hours of the film were destroyed after that preview so no chance of it turning up in a Danish attic. People who look like extras in the film as it exists had their own storylines. And people you never see had story lines. Film Forum showed the final version once and after a film historian gave you the plot of the 8 hour version using stills from the missing footage.

I would love to see the complete The Harrad Experiment. Does it exist? What is out there now is the film in shreds.

Who Taught Her Everything She Knows from Funny Girl. Stills exist but not the number. Why couldn't they have kept it in? Those roadshow movies were long in any case and they could have cut it when the film went into general release. Those roadshow audiences would have loved to have seen Kay Medford singing and dancing.

Another rare Altman cable film is Basements an adaptation of the Harold Pinter plays The Dumb Waiter and The Room with John Travolta and Tom Conti. Also on YouTube.

I remember when the Dumbwaiter aired on ABC in 1987. It was either Christmas night or the night after. It was my first year in NYC. I was 16. My parents had come up from FL to visit me for the holidays and came to pick me up at my hovel and I was passed out with a fever. They had to take me to the hospital, and then brought me back to their hotel. I slept all day and when I woke up, that was playing on the television in their room

Oh, I also meant to add that I had wanted to watch it because Annie Lennox had a small role in it.

with John Travolta doing an unconvincing cockney accent.

Oh I'd also love to see the Love, Sydney episode with Myrna Loy. (He played a gay man.)

Whatcha meen unconvincin'?

R223

"Hats Off" (1927) - the lost Laurel and Hardy silent.

R25 Not a great print, here, but you can certainly see Letty Lynton on Facebook.

I would like to see cut footage from Gone With The Wind. The movie previewed at about 4 hours and 30 minutes, before it was cut down for actual release to around 3 hrs 43 min. (Not counting all the prelude and intermission music they count as running time now.) Despite the preview audiences writing things like "Don't cut a thing" on the opinion cards, Selznick wanted a tighter film.

I think two of the Charlie Chan movies with Warner Oland as Chan are lost/missing. I probably saw all the existing ones as a kid. So I'd like to see these.

Four Devils, the next film F. W. Munau and Janet Gaynor made after Sunrise (I think) is lost or missing.

[quote]A lot of you are listing deleted scenes. We're talking about "LOST" movies of footage. Get it.

R215 Aren't the scenes from Cleopatra OP talked about deleted scenes?

The version of Greed we can see now is surely the most boring film ever made. Who'd want to see more of it? Scenes went on forever including the desert finale.

"A Fight with Sledgehammers" from 1902 (mentioned in my history of horror films book). I wonder what it was like?

One film shockingly not lost is the one considered the first motion picture. The inventor, a French-British man named Louis Le Prince, was living in NYC in what was at that time the dilapidated Morris-Jumel Mansion. He had finally worked out the last issues of how to film and show moving picture in his work studio in England and was to return to the US to lock in all the patent rights. Before sailing for the states he took a trip to Dijon, France to meet with his brother and settle some accounts. After his brother waved goodbye to him boarding the train to Paris he was never seen again. He vanished without a trace. There was talk that Thomas Edison may have had him murdered so he could secure the rights to being the inventor of motion pictures. A wonder Erik Larsonesque book came out this year about the mystery called The Man Who Invented Motion Pictures. Enjoy the film below.

The Terror, one of the first talkies.

Early B&W episodes of early 1970s sex and sin soap Number 96. Most have deteriorated and no longer exist.

Murnau's adaptation of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, Der Januskopf, with Conrad Veidt and a young Bela Lugosi. Murnau never asked for the rights to the story, and the Robert Louis Stevenson estate ordered that all prints had to be destroyed. Unfortunately one has never turned up. Murnau pulled the same trick when he made Nosferatu, an unauthorized version of Dracula. Bram Stoker:s widow, Florence, went after Murnau and a court ruled that all prints had to be destroyed. Luckily for us, prints were hidden away and it's available, since it's a masterpiece.

Bride of Frankenstein had 15 minutes cut out because of the Breen Office, and now the footage is lost. There are reviews of the long version from the Hollywood Reporter and Daily Variety that say it was magnificent. Of course, the same could be said for the cut that is available.

Buck Rogers in the 25th Century with the Glen Larson opening credit sequence.

The deleted scenes of Cleopatra are now lost. Like the deleted scenes of Greed.

Sorry, but I've never gotten the love for GREED. It's endless and dull.

I'd like to see a complete copy of 'Der Golem' (1915), starring Paul Wegener.

The Fertility Dance sequence in the musical remake of Lost Horizon.

R239 There are some stills from it in this article about the movie.

Looks like a gay bathhouse.

Speaking of Lost Horizon, I'd love to see the original film (1937) restored without the stills that replace the missing footage currently.

I remember going with my parents to see the 1973 version. Then I happened to be in Southern California that summer and saw it at the drive in, again, with my cousins. I hated it but for some reason bought the soundtrack album, which was a special album and opened like a book. I think I may have bought it before I saw the dreadful movie twice.

R241 I had the album, too. Yes, it was a two-record set with a cover that opened up that had a big picture of Shangri-La in the middle. And if I recall correctly, it also came with a separate little booklet with some pictures of the set being built and all the lyrics to the songs on the album.

R242 Wow, I don't remember the booklet. It had two records? How were there that many songs in the movie? I remember I bought it at Woolworth's.

R243 There were 34 tracks on the album, but not all of them were songs with lyrics. Some were just instrumental pieces.

As I recall, the booklet was tucked in one of the album sleeves. It was the size of the album itself, so maybe "booklet" isn't the right word.

A Country Hero (1917) the only lost film of Buster keaton's.

Isadora

The Vanessa Redgrave film, R246? That is not lost.

R226 One of the deleted scenes from Gone With the Wind was a childbirth sequence with Isabel Jewell as Emmy Slattery (giving birth) and Barbara O’Neill as Ellen O’Hara assisting in the birth. During the early sixties (about the time I was born), a friend from my teenage years lived in the same apartment building as Jewell. He said one of her biggest gripes in her later years was about that deleted scene.

I don't want to see no more of that white trash Slattery girl. Just ain't fittin'.

Isadora may not be lost but the most recent Blu-Ray reissue by Kino Lorber is the shorter cut.

R248 Thanks, that's interesting! I guess that scene preceded the one in the film where Ellen tells Jonas Wilkerson she'd just come from Emmy Slattery's bedside and that his baby was born and "mercifully has died."

Incidentally, that early Jonas Wilkerson scene and others had to be re-shot because the actor playing Wilkerson died during filming. Robert Gleckler. He had to be replaced by Victor Jory.

Is the cut Gone With The Wind footage lost or it just hasn't been released?

Hippie Hippie Shake (2011)

Release the fucking thing!

As far as the cut footage from Cleopatra (1963), is there any actual proof that the missing footage was destroyed?

Also, within that unseen 2 hours of footage how much of Elizabeth Taylor is there?

Is one half Elizabeth and Rex and the other half Elizabeth and Richard?

I want to know more about this lost footage!

I want to see this but I'm not in the UK

As far as the missing cut footage from Gone With The Wind goes, is there any actual proof that it was destroyed?

Also, how much of Vivien Leigh is there in that unseen footage?

Anyone know?

^It was an entirely different ending to the story that they filmed: Mammy and Rhett end up getting married, and take over Tara. Miz Scahlett is locked up in the "mental home" down in Milledgeville, and completely forgotten about, never even visited again. Everyone lives happily ever after.

R257, where'd you hear that?

Bollywood film "Jackpot" (2005) with the deliciously hunky Himanshu Malik. It was completed, but never released.

What other Elizabeth Taylor movies were cut aside from Cleopatra?

From what I've heard, Richard Burton wasn't cut.

Desperately Seeking Susan needs to be released in it's entirety.

R248, I didn't know they filmed that scene. That book is one of the best books I've read. I love the movie too. That's interesting.

Was Citizen Kane cut at all?

Re: “Cleopatra”

Burton’s scenes were significantly shortened. Taylor’s mystical side was shortened. A few political moves were cut, including Finlay Currie as Titus the Moneylender. Many scenes with Martin Landau’s and Roddy McDowell’s characters were excised.

If interested, there is a website called “Trivette’s Tribute to Taylor,” which includes an extensive reconstruction of the film, with many photos of cut scenes. Check it out.

Cleopatra is one of the dullest, most talky films of all time, I can't imagine wanting to make it longer.

All Madonna films

R267 - you mean you'd like them to become lost/missing films, right?

Ok, let's clarify something here. Virtually all films shoot more footage and scenes than they need. As you know, ALL films are cut, or edited together.

The Wizard Of Oz, Gone With The Wind and almost all of the MGM Musicals I mentioned are EXACTLY the length the filmmakers intended them to be. What was deleted was left out intentionally and sometimes the footage was not even scored.

However those films, (and their stars) became so iconic and irreplaceable that every scrap of film became valuable, especially when home video market emerged. It was hugely enjoyable to finally see Judy Garland perform the "lost" Mr. Monotony number from Easter Parade.

Other films were shown and then mutilated for various reasons or destroyed (The Magnificent Ambersons, The Devils, Cleopatra, Greed, The Divine Woman, London After Midnight, etc.) Those are the real "lost" Holy Grails. They still may show up!

A longer version of the Joan Crawford silent film The Unknown just turned up in Europe. The full version of the German film Metropolis, against all odds (and Allied bombing) was found in Latin America! The Library Of Congress had the pre-code, uncensored version of Baby Doll.

What Marilyn Monroe films are missing significant footage?

I want more buttocks and groins from Dante's inferno!

What films were cut the most? Which ones have the most missing footage?

I can't believe people weren't smart enough to make duplicate copies of every film and store them in multiple places just to be safe.

What a tragic loss and waste that so many films will never be able to be seen again.

Anyone know what all was cut from A Place In The Sun (1951)?

All films should be released uncut.

All men should be cut.

I've read that of early western star Broncho Billy Anderson's films, many are missing, because they were stored in an old barn or something and local kids used to set them on fire and roll them down the hill.

As I've already written Cleopatra shown in Todd AO on a large screen is wonderful. And that ending when Cleopatra is found dead and Charmian says the line from Shakespeare(which should end the play but doesn't) just wow.

A cut scene is Landau's death but in the film Burton just finds him dead.

Mr. Monotony is fabulous but it would have been all wrong in Easter Parade. It needed to be cut but thank god it was saved.

Come to me Bend to Me and the sword dance needed to be left in Brigadoon. I don't know why Freed had to get the film in under two hours. And There But For You. Despite the films problems they would have made it a better richer film. At least the first two exist but they needed to be in context. There were a number of films of the period that were over two hours. Even TGSOE which opened at Radio City with the stage show was 2 and 1/2 hours.

Cool Cool Considerate Men should have been destroyed. Jack Warner told the editor not only to cut it but dispose of it. She said sure boss. Then she hid it.

Even TGSOE which opened at Radio City with the stage show was 2 and 1/2 hours.

What is TGSOE?

[quote]I can't believe people weren't smart enough to make duplicate copies of every film and store them in multiple places just to be safe.

Early films were on nitrate stock that disintigrated and also was really flammable.

I can't get used to the actors in Cleopatra in ancient Egypt talking like they're in a road company of All About Eve with that Joe Mankiewicz dialogue.

I'd really like to see a version of The Apple with all the deleted scenes in. It's apparently out there. but very difficult to get your hands on. It's not a good movie by any means, but I find it hilarious.

I'd like to see the English language version of The Blue Angel (1930). I thought I saw it on TV once, as a kid (late 60s, early 70s). But later I heard it was lost.

In the 70s, there was a 2-night TV special called The Movies, which was a great assemblage of film clips presented by several stars - I only remember one of them, Rosalind Russell. The show was directed by George Cukor. It's been completely forgotten, and is never listed anywhere. It had the scene of Dietrich singing Falling In Love Again - in English.

Wikipedia says "The film was shot simultaneously in German- and English-language versions, although the latter version was thought lost for many years. The German version is considered to be "obviously superior"; it is longer and not marred by actors struggling with their English pronunciation."

R283 The English version does exist and is on Blu Ray.

R284 Thanks. Someone once wanted to have a big argument with me over it, saying there was no such thing, and why would there be, it was filmed in Germany, and I was crazy or dreaming.

R284 It's also on YouTube. I just found it.

4 french dances scene from Gentleman Prefer Blonds

Here's a link about 4 french dances

I would love to see the opening number from SWING TIME, "It's Not in the Cards" or at least hear a version of it. It was cut from the film, but the music is used as background in the first scene in the dressing room and I've always loved it.

Aside from Gentlemen Prefer Blondes, what other Marilyn Monroe films have missing footage?

The CinemaScope version of Diamonds Are A Girl's Best Friend, from Gentlemen Prefer Blondes (which was shot for promo purposes, not for inclusion in the film), was shown in the Documentary, Marilyn, narrated by Rock Hudson. The last time I checked. the numer and the doc were not available. Ironically when this doc used to be shown on TV the number was shown full screen, so I have never seen the number in CinemaScope.

Some years ago (over 10, probably, I forget) TCM showed MGM musical back to back, and after each, they showed a cut number from the film. Most of the numbers, you could see why they were cut, but it was really interesting.

*number

*And by full screen, I meant that the wide-screen version was shown edited down to full screen, not that the full screen version was shown.

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The movie Ingrid Bergman wanted (us) to forget she ever made: DIE VIER GESELLEN (UFA-38). Her only film for the Nazi film industry went into oblivion and her career didn't suffer for it, although it's in circulation on the collector's market.

A brief clip is currently on Youtube.

Hitchcock's second feature, made in Munich but set in Kentucky (!), THE MOUNTAIN EAGLE (26) is on the British Film Institute's 75 "Most Wanted List" (listed on Wikipedia). He claimed that it was bad, and no great loss.

What James Dean films have missing footage?

The Greatest Show on Earth

The Sound of Music had a scene where Liesl introduces Rolf to Maria. I wonder what happened to that.

The bus scene from "Bus Stop" where Marilyn gives an epic monologue about why she is how she is and how life has let her down. She was gutted it got cut from the movie as she worked so hard to get it right.

Here's part of the Bus Stop scene

THE DIVINE MR J - originally titled THE THORN, but the title changed to capitalize on Bette Midler, who played the Virgin Mary. I was at a midnight showing of THE BOYS IN THE BAND in 1971 and saw the preview for this. Needless to say, it never premiered in St Louis Missouri!

I thought you might all be interested in the process of film restoration from Criterion.

Marilyn really is brilliant in that. It's a crime that she didn't even get a nomination for it.

NASTY HABITS (1977)a Watergate parody except it takes place in an abbey full of nuns. It has an amazing cast: Glenda Jackson, Melina Mercouri, Sandy Dennis, and three married couples: Rip Torn and Geraldine Page, Anne Jackson and Eli Wallach, and Jerry Stiller and Anne Meara. With cameos by Howard K Smith and DL fave Jessica Savitch.

R304, that film is not missing. It's available on DVD from Warner Archive.

Also, it's terrible.

R248 At the moment, I’m at Musso and Frank with my brother. We’re both quite high from two martinis (and counting). We haven’t ordered dinner yet. I just remembered that my friend who knew Isabell Jewell said she’d give a horseshoe from the Jewell ranch in Montana to people she especially liked. My friend had several, and gave one to me. I have no idea where it is today. Lost, I guess, like her childbirth scene from GWTW.

^ I just checked IMDB, so I guess the Jewell ranch was in Wyoming, not Montana.

R295 - I have Die Vier Gesellen on DVD, which I think I ordered straight from Germany, at least it doesn't have English subtitles. Despite being made under Nazi rule, there isn't any propaganda in it, it's a pretty ordinary film about a group of young women sharing a rented apartment. I thought it was pretty dull, actually.

A Star is Born 1954 version; Way We Were, the cut op arts that go into the witch hunts by McCarthy etc which were the reason the relationship failed. Both film cuts diminished each film.

Doesn't the copyright for 'Letty Lynton' expire in 2024?

Anyway, I have the first fifteen minutes of it, and it's magnificent, R25.

R31 must be Casey LaLonde, or a private collector. Any chance you might share it with us?

R 247: You’re right. Not lost ! Bought DVD ON Amazon. It’s my memory that’s lost

R14, I'd have to add "The Day the Clown Cried," with Jerry Lewis.

I'm surprised you didn't think of it.

The Divine Woman

"A Man's Man" with Garbo and John Gilbert.

Some of the early short films of Judy Garland with her sisters. I've heard that the soundtracks survive on a couple of them, but I've never found them.

R304 Nasty Habits is available on DVD through Warners Archive. And is region free.

Well as far as TWWW is considered they made the right decision. Audiences did not want to see Redford break up with Streisand out of cowardice. That would have been idiotic and left a bad taste in people's mouths. Not very romantic and not much repeat business.

The full The Maltese Falcon

The eighteen minutes of songs from Mame.

My Cherry

David Lynch's original cut of Dune.

R101 I Claudius was directed by Josef Von Sternberg, not Erich Von Stroheim.

R310 I already posted the link to the complete film.

R273, I cannot believe people are not smart enough to understand the administrative and financial resources/infrastructure needed to store multiple copies of films in a number of different storage sites.

R298 'The Greatest Show on Earth' is available, surely (though I have no wish to see it again)

R325 The negative is still around. It may be need to be restored but it isn't lost.

Cecil B De Mille's Samson and Delilah was groanworthingly camp.

With Angela!

There isn't a movie that presents the whole Ringling Bros circus experience better that The Greatest Show On Earth. If you're looking for subtlety, don't watch DeMille movies. But they're very entertaining and usually, good storytelling. Afaik he never gave to any motivation for people being bad or good. No psychology or backstories. That's almost refreshing, compared to all the psycho-crap we've been conditioned to like.

On TV Greatest Show on Earth is a bore. I bit the bullet and went to see it in a revival house. It deserved a chance because I enjoy most of DeMille. It was a terrific entertainment on the screen. I understand the bluray is very good.

[quote] Afaik he never gave to any motivation for people being bad or good.

Have you missed the sermonising about The Word Of The Lord at the beginning and end of The Ten Commandments?

How many Greta Garbo films are lost?

R330 Yeah what I'm saying is he doesn't explain how his characters got the way they are. Like a villian is not explained, he's usually just a bad person, and the hero or heroine is just good. I noticed this a while ago. He has these basic heroes and villains, plus the good/bad more "gray" characters. But no psychology. The bad guy isn't bad because his dad was mean to him, for ex.

Great article, r240...

THRUST!

[quote] How many Greta Garbo films are lost?

I'm not sure about her very first Swedish film ("Herr och fru Stockholm" (1920)), but other than that, only "The Divine Woman" (1928) and "A Man's Man" (1929) are lost. And part of "The Divine Woman" is still extant and has been shown on TCM.

I hope they find The Divine Woman

There's this, r315...

Thank you, Bryan R323.

Or perhaps R323 is not Bryan at all - if not, I apologize.

Either way, thank you very much, R323.

R339 You're welcome, and no, I'm not Bryan.

I always was interested in seeing a couple of Hitchcock things, they weren't lost or missing, I guess - I just never thought they'd be available. One is a short, a simple PSA type of film, with Jennifer Jones. It was photographed by Gregg Toland. The only time Hitch did anything with Jones or Toland. (at 1:50)...

...the other one is Incident At A Corner (1960), a short film shown on the TV program, Ford Startime. It starred Vera Miles and George Peppard. It's basically like a color episode of The Alfred Hitchcock Hour.

r173, I looked it up and that was a different hoax. There was a horror rock guy named Sid Terror who claimed that he worked for a film archival company many years ago and he saw "London After Midnight" in the TCM archives with his own eyes, but TCM had labeled it wrong so he wrote "London After Midnight" on the cans with Sharpie, which is why he knows TCM has "London After Midnight" but they won't release it because they are stupid and/or greedy. It was a dumb story.

I still can't find anything about the missing Phantom footage being found but I remember when it happened, and I feel like someone even uploaded footage they claimed was made up of the missing pieces, and experts immediately said "no, that's just something from an old 16mm home print." I cannot find ANYTHING about it, though.

The lost leather bar segment cut from Cruising

[quote]only "The Divine Woman" (1928) and "A Man's Man" (1929) are lost

Maybe they just want to be left alone.

I hate the 'restored' Star is Born". It is very unfortunate that we don't have the film as Cukor intended. But I'd rather see the film as cut then all those ridiculous stills and outtakes. They kill the emotional impact and flow of what was left despite the gaps.

The uncut GIANT (1956)!

Anyone know how much was cut from it?

THE GROOVE TUBE (1974).

Thanks R336 - I've seen that one, though. It's "A Holiday in Storyland" (1930) and "The Wedding of Jack and Jill" (1930) that I want to see. Apparently only the soundtracks are extant for each of them, but where are those soundtracks?

David Lynch's 1984 DUNE Directors Cut. He said he will never release it. :(

R346 Isn't it the original length?

R345 I disagree. Having seen the cut version a few times before the restoration happened, I prefer the restoration. The cut film is darker - because the earlier part was largely where the spoken scenes were cut, and they were about the happier part of the relationship. It would be great to have the full film - I also wonder why a second restoration can't be attempted, with better stills, at least colorized stills. The Oleander Arms lady was actually played by Kathryn Card (Mrs. McGillicuddy on I Love Lucy) but a still was rigged up with a modern actress. Can't they find a still of Card that could be used?

Anyway Kudos to Haver for his research and work. And finding the actual lost footage and musical numbers.

For a long time my answer would have been the initial footage shot by the Maysles when they first visited Grey Gardens, but it was released as "That Summer" a few years ago. Now, I'd love to see Vivien Leigh's footage from Elephant Walk.

Vivien Leigh has one lost film - "Gentleman's Agreement" from 1935 and one "missing" film, "The Village Squire" from the same year. The latter actually exists at the BFA and a few seconds of it were used in a documentary on her, but I don't think it's ever been shown in its entirety. I don't know why.

I would love to see the full cut of the "Wait Till We're 65" number that Streisand and Larry Blyden filmed for "On a Clear Day You Can See Forever." The audio has survived and it may be one of the best numbers in the whole show (it's great to hear Streisand being funny rather than over-singing stridently as she does with many of the other numbers), although the actual film of it does not exist (only stills).

[quote] The Sound of Music had a scene where Liesl introduces Rolf to Maria. I wonder what happened to that.

I would love to see that too.

Supposedly Maria compliments Rolf on what a high, tight, and full ass he has. "I could bounce a schilling off that thing!"

[quote]The uncut GIANT (1956)! Anyone know how much was cut from it?

Not enough.

I'd love to seen the infamous "Who's Looking For A Taco?" number from Helen Lawson's unfinished film Come South Of My Border.

There are a few giant uncuts on PornHub

The uncut Raintree County.

How much of that movie was cut?

Not enough.

Was A Place In The Sun cut?

If so, how much?

Anne Francis' scenes from Funny Girl

Love Me Tonight (1932) was cut when it was re-released, and the footage has never been recovered, to my knowledge. I think the cuts include Myrna Loy singing - she has a supporting role in the great film that starred Maurice Chevalier and Jeanette MacDonald. Directed by Rouben Mamoulian but sometimes mistaken for Lubitsch.

Raintree County certainly is no classic, but Giant is a wonderful film in my opinion.

Myrna Loy did a refrain of "Mimi", but while C. Aubrey Smith's, Charlie Ruggles and Charles Butterworth's are still in the picture, Loy was wearing something a bit see-through apparently and the censor cut it during the film's re-release, along with a few other minutes from this film masterpiece. One of the DVD releases has extra material, along script excerpts of some of the cut material.

A Hatful of Rain 1968 TV movie with Sandy Dennis and Michael Parks.

Films of course were "censored" the most by the film iundustry - as a pre-emptive strike so as not to run afoul of actual censors, ministers, and Catholics.

You can cut all of the first part of GIANT. I don't come in until after the intermission.

The German release version of STATION SIX SAHARA (62) has more nude Caroll Baker than the UK cut.

(It was a UK-German co-production).

Any of Blanche Hudson's lost silents.

The uncut/uncensored version of Bruce Lee’s Fists If Fury where he gets nekkid with the prostitute. He showed a lot of skin and her ASSets were on full display.

I’d pay anything for BL dick pics.

[R358]: TCM used to show the uncut roadshow version of “Raintree County,” though, for reasons yet unclear, they have reverted to showing only the cut version for some years now.

Oddly, many of the cut scenes are with Rod Taylor’s character, who’s a kind of slimy political opportunist. He has an encounter with Eva Marie Saint at the beginning, while she’s on her way to see Clift. And, near the end of part I, in a lengthier scene, he’s the one who tells Clift where Taylor has fled with their son, an important plot point, because, without that scene, Clift appears wandering about in Part II.

Another cut scene involves Southerner Tom Drake, playing Taylor’s cousin, whom Clift and Taylor visit. At one point, he becomes incensed that a black slave has eyed his wife’s ankle, and proceeds to chase him with an an ax, but is deferred by liberal Clift.

Also, I believe they cut the Intermission title, as well as the music Entr’acte, even though they kept the beautiful Overture.

R371 I never even knew there was an uncut roadshow version.

Where did Raintree County play roadshow in the US? I don't believe it did. Maybe in London.

This missing frames from the Zapruder film.

There's an expert at Home Theater Forum who has lobbied WarnerArchive for Raintree County's release for years. There was a huge thread about it There. Apparently the film elements are in rather bad shape - at least for a bluray release- and the restoration cost is prohibitively expensive.

The 1922 version of "The Ghost Breaker", which was later remade as the very fun "The Ghost Breakers" in 1940 with Bob Hope and Paulette Goddard and the not so fun "Scared Stiff" in 1953 with Jerry Lewis and Dean Martin.

This was one of Wallace Reid's final films and also included Richard Arlen and George O'Brien.

Was How To Marry A Millionaire cut?

If so, then how much?

"Christopher Bean" (1934) with Marie Dressler. Not lost, but tied up in some kind of never ending copyright battle which doesn't allow it to be shown anywhere.

Yes, r378, that's on my list too. The TV version with Thelma Ritter, however, is on Youtube.

R378 I saw it on Turner Classic Movies once.

It was pretty good, I enjoyed it, but it was one of those "selfish modern (adult) children" things.

R380 - really?? I thought it was tied up in an archive unable to be seen by anybody. I've never heard anyone else say they had seen it.

R381 I'm probably confusing it with Emma. I did read the play. Sorry I mixed it up. I see you already told Nitraeville you "have a guy on a different forum" saying he saw it.

R382 - yeah, I was actually hoping it was true, because then some collector would be selling a copy of it on eBay or somewhere.

It's odd to think that a little known film from 1934 would be tied up in a rights battle. I would think who would care and how much money would be involved? Like a few dollars?

Well you'll be able to see it in 2029 when 1934 copyrights expire

R384 It probably has to do with it having been sold from MGM to 20th Century-Fox.

I remember sometime in the late 70s and 80s Vertigo was tied up in rights issues and a lot of people hadn't seen it - I had seen it because CBS had shown it twice in the early 70s (when I was @ 13) on their prime-time movie. Then it disappeared. People didn't believe me when I said I'd seen it on TV.

Not really a lost movie, but apparently The Glenn Miller Story was cut slightly for the DVD release. Somebody pointed this out on YouTube. They were parts of scenes where June Allyson, as Helen Miller, tells James Stewart, as Glenn Miller, that she's disappointed in him, that he's not following his dream, etc. There were about 6 short bits.

All the lines are included in the print TCM shows. They strengthen June Allyson's performance and give her character more power in the relationship. It's weird that they were cut, I wonder if it was for some legal reason because it made it look like Helen had a lot to do with Miller being successful.

I believe June Allyson's performance has been fully restored on the bluray.

However you did remind me that *the* scene of Greta Garbo's Mata Hari was deleted and not seen for decades. I read about it in the biography of Ramon Navarro and apparently it has been restored, but WarnerArchive seems to have little interest in putting Garbo's films on bluray.

TV version of LAURA with Lee Radziwill

TV version of RASHOMON with Carol Lawrence and Ricardo Montalban

TV version of LOOK HOMEWARD ANGEL

TV remake of A BELL FOR ADANO with John Forsythe

All the cut or deleted scenes or trimmed scenes from VALLEY OF THE DOLLS

[quote]I believe June Allyson's performance has been fully restored on the bluray.

Do you have any idea why it was edited, R388? (It was one of my favorite movies as a kid and I particularly liked those lines and this aspect of her role.)

I don't know the scene you're referring to in Mata Hari and I'm probably not the only one - can you explain it?

When I was a kid there was the Late Show on one of the NY channels. Some guy came on to announce that previously the film Gilda had been slightly edited as certain moments were deemed distasteful for TV. But times had changed so they were going to show the film uncensored. So they showed the scene after Rita finishes her Put the Blame on Mame number. They showed the scene with the cuts and then without them. Honestly though I was very young I couldn't figure out what was so distasteful about them considering how sexy the number was that just came before. Even seeing the film years later I couldn't tell what you would have cut for those chaste 50s and 60s TV audiences.

R391, here is a link to an invaluable website about Greta Garbo. The 2 main films which exist in their entirety are Mata Hari (available since 2005!!) and the original, uncensored Two-Faced Woman. It is up to the WarnerArchive to release them. I wish they would hurry up and do so!

They also mention that there was a second scene discovered from the no-longer-extant film The Divine Woman which I had no idea about!

Here is the details about Two-Faced Woman, the original version is available and was shown at a George Cukor film festival.

R393 Thanks for the link but you couldn't just tell me what "that scene" was, in one sentence?

And you couldn't just click on the link you ungrateful bitch?

These early 50s Jane Wyman films seem to be out of official circulation, at least in the U.S.: "So Big" (53). "The Blue Veil" (51). "The Glass Menagerie" (50).

I saw The Glass Menagerie not too long ago. Either I got it out of the library or I saw it on youtube. I honestly don't remember. It's not as bad as I thought it would be. Still the director could have done a lot better. Lawrence is very good.

Yes it is on youtube but I don't remember the one I saw having english subtitles as this one does.

So Big was just on TCM about a month ago.

r396 That would involve reading aboiut it when I asked you a simple question that you have failed to answer twice (three times, if you include your original post).

*about

If we're talking about missing footage, I don't think anyone has mentioned Freaks. That was cut a lot. I would love to see that lost footage. Also The Bride Of Frankenstein (but someone may have mentioned that). The original Salvador Dali dream sequence in Spellbound.

The original, uncut version of John Huston's The Red Badge Of Courage, which ran 120 minutes, and was cut down to 69 minutes by MGM boss Dore Schary, after the previews weren't good. He rearranged footage. He did the same to Across The Wide Missouri (starring Clark Gable, directed by William Wellman) after previews. Cut from @130 to 82 minutes. Narration added (spoken by Howard Keel). Whole parts were slashed (actors in the credits like James Whitmore ended up having bit parts). Scenes rearranged so that in the finished film, actors used props they discarded in "earlier" scenes.

I wonder what is missing from the Tennessee Williams movies

[quote]TV version of LAURA with Lee Radziwill

You aren't missing anything, r389.

Any cut music videos

The gas chamber execution of Walter Neff (Fred MacMurray), the original ending of DOUBLE INDEMNITY (44). Shot, but cut by a nervous studio.

The full Casablanca

Instead of more footage of the 1963 "Cleopatra" I would much rather see the missing 1917 "Cleopatra" with Theda Bera.

I would love to see more Theda Bara, period. The biggest star of the period and nearly all her films destroyed by fire, a huge loss.

I really want to see the rest of the Charles Farrell-Janet Gaynor films, especially The First Year. I think High Society Blues is considered a lost film, but The First Year, Merely Mary Ann and Tess of the Storm County are extant. There was also a talkie version of Lucky Star released, but I can't imagine it measures up to the silent version.

I would also love to see Employees Entrance which reunited Janet Gaynor and Lew Ayres, but seems it was another casualty of the big Fox fire.

The porno's Joan made before she became a star.

Kip Pardue in his prime.

R376.

Evidence of a MAGAt troll infesting a good thread.

MAGAt troll faps to 9 year old BOYS and still believes he’s a Gay, not a Pedo.

Take a second look at this racist film he misses.

R9. R50. R54. R68. R79. R136, and more blocked by blocking r376.

Asshole.

r382, I haven't seen the Nitrateville thread you two are talking about, but I would imagine eyebrows were raised because "Christopher Bean" is one of those lost films that the late "eccentric" F. Gwynplaine MacIntyre claimed he watched, having been employed by an unnamed and wealthy film collector who owned many lost films in his secret vault. There was no wealthy film collector and F. never saw any of those movies. He wrote a review for the movie on the IMDb, upset a lot of people every time he wrote a review of a lost film, and it's equivocal whether he was genuinely delusional or having fun trolling people.

F. was a real piece of work and even though he's long dead, people in the classic film community still get their hackles up when they suspect someone might be trying to pull the same stunts he did.

From R409's link:

[quote] In advance of Cleopatra, Fox sent out a press release (with a straight face, it seems) that actually said Theda Bara’s coming was foretold by ancient Egyptians. Reproduced in local newspapers around the country, it reported that writing on a recently opened tomb was translated to say:

[quote] “I, Rhames, priest of Set, tell you this: She shall seem a snake to most men; she shall lead them to sin, and to their destruction. Yet she shall not be so. She shall be good and virtuous, and kind of heart; but she shall not seem so to most men. For she shall not be that which she appears. She shall be called…” [Here was inserted the Greek letter ‘Theta’.]

Holy shit.

MARY!

And to R412 - here is Joan Crawford's first, most famous stag film:

Kinky stinky^^^

FUCK ME!

^^^Linky stinky^^^

Well, it is kinky, and I'm quite sure it was stinky, too, R421...

How about this other link? The image quality is a little inferior, though...

That is, R420...

R418 That's definitely not Joan Crawford.

It is Joan Crawford all right - look at the way she carries herself, her posture, her legs, her hands, the pre-rhinoplasty nose/face, and the pre-Max Factor eyebrows... Search for stills of her in the early 1920s, even after she signed with MGM, but before they put her to work in any actual movies. You'll then see it.

R424 It doesn't remotely look like her. Joan had a very pronounced overbite and very prominent cheekbones, neither of which this sad little whore they pulled off the streets has.

That's not Joan Crawford. She's too tall, for one thing. Besides, Joan was in films by the time "The Casting Couch" came out and we can easily compare her to the woman in the movie.

The still photos of Joan seem legit, but that is not her in "The Casting Couch."

"The Casting Couch" is from 1924. Joan signed with MGM in 1925.

Here is a picture from that same year she arrived on the lot (with a very favorable angle for her nose):

By the way, I don't know what makes R425 think Joan Crawford was anything other than a "sad little whore" then - and I say this as a fan. There is no shame in doing sex work, or porn films. It's work (there's work of all kinds).

Finally, R426 fails to consider, among other things, that it might be the male actor who is short.

R472 She looks nothing like the woman in the Casting Couch loop. At all.

R428 They weren't referring to Joan as a the sad little whore. They were talking about the prostitute in the stag film.

Baz Luhrmann's 4-hour version of "Elvis," with a complete concert show sung 100% by Austin Butler.

R424 If it was Joan Crawford in that clip, XHamster would be promoting it with "Joan Crawford's porn movie!" But they don't.

I'm not saying Joan Crawford never did porn loops, but if she did, this isn't one of 'em.

R431 God, that sounds excruciating.

Joan Crawford did not look like that in 1924. No, not even with a blonde wig.

[quote]Joan signed with MGM in 1925.

She signed in 1924.

Producer Jacob J. Shubert discovered her and cast her in the chorus of "Innocent Eyes" on Broadway in early 1924. She then signed with publicist Nils Granlund who got her a screen test, and she was offered an MGM contract of $75 a week on Christmas Eve, 1924. Her first films were in 1925.

Here's a bunch of photos of her from before she signed with MGM.

R435 She's recognizable as Joan Crawford in all those photos, unlike the woman in the porn loop.

R428 Joan Crawford was barely 5'2". That would mean the dude in the movie was about 5'4".

Nah.

The full Shanghai Surprise

R438 No one should ever have to be subjected to that.

R416 Judging from the replies, nobody's hackles were raised. Of course you could have just read it instead of assuming things.

[quote]By the way, I don't know what makes [R425] think Joan Crawford was anything other than a "sad little whore" then - and I say this as a fan. There is no shame in doing sex work, or porn films. It's work (there's work of all kinds).

[quote]By the way, I don't know what makes [R425] think Joan Crawford was anything other than a "sad little whore" then - and I say this as a fan. There is no shame in doing sex work, or porn films. It's work (there's work of all kinds).

R428 (quoted above): Obviously there was a lot of shame associated with making porn films in those days for an actress trying to have a legit movie career. The studio supposedly had to pay a lot of money to buy up those prints.

No one gave a link to the Nitrateville thread in question, r440, how could I have read it? Besides, it was very obvious that I was just speculating on what might have happened.

R443 Which is why they were probably all destroyed eons ago and the "Casting Couch" isn't a Joan Crawford loop.

The Joan Crawford version of Hush...Hush, Sweet Charlotte.

[R373]: Apparently, “Raintree County” never played as a roadshow. In “Movie Roadshows,” by Kim R. Holston, it’s listed as never having been “hard ticket,” but played continuous performances since opening in New York on Dec. 20, 1957, at 2 different theaters.

But there was a printed souvenir program for it, which I have. As well as a gatefold 2-lp set of the soundtrack music, rare at the time. (The only other film to have a 2-lp soundtrack was “The Ten Commandments.”)

I was just watching an interview with Liz Smith and Robert Wagner on youtube. Another sad Joan and children story which many of you might already have heard. She spent Christmas day at Joan's house once for a luncheon. The children were not allowed to open their presents until it was over. Not in the morning when children are supposed to. Did Joan like being a shit? And I'm a fan. I couldn't care less if she did a porn film or not. She was mean.

Love Me Or Leave Me (1955) had some cuts, most obviously in the scene where James Cagney throws Doris Day down on the bed. The scene dissolves but that wasn't the end of it.

There were 4 or 5 numbers cut from The Ziegfeld Follies (1946) that were released (audio only) on the Rhino soundtrack album. They featured Fred Astaire, tenor James Melton, and dancer/singer Avon Long. Would love to see those.

Yes Day says that the scene on the bed was much more brutal than what is shown in the complete film. Also Susan Kohner said the scene with Troy Donahue in Imitation of life had to be reshot. The original was much more violent.

Really terrific DL thread, love it.

Another vote for the original ending of MAGNIFICENT AMBERSONS and of course Hitchcock's THE MOUNTAIN EAGLE.

The missing Zapruder frames, definitely.

The ending of Portrait Of Jennie expended to some kind of wide screen for the final storm sequence. As mentioned here by Bosley Crowther in his negative review (and elsewhere). I don't think it's been shown that way since (including on DVD).

R433, He didn't make it.....for YOU!

So awful that we live in a country where one is forced to go see movies.

Apparently many of the love scenes in Sincerely Yours were seriously cut down because the chemistry between Dorothy Malone and Liberace was so torrid the producers didn't think the movie would get seal of approval from the Hays Office.

Could R432 be any more naive?

R430 lacks reading comprehension skills. What I'm saying at R428 is that Joan Crawford was, in fact, the equivalent to a 'sad little whore' in the early 1920s, and she was (which is fine). What is beyond anyone's guess is why R425 would think she was NOT.

R435, Christmas' Eve of 1924 is EIGHT DAYS before the year 1925. That leaves the entire year of 1924 for JC to do The Casting Couch (which she did do, in multiple senses, as "it sure beat the cold, hard floor").

R434 will believe whatever she wants to believe.

[quote] Obviously there was a lot of shame associated with making porn films in those days for an actress trying to have a legit movie career. The studio supposedly had to pay a lot of money to buy up those prints.

Obviously, R443. I was only responding to R425's comment about the actress (whoever she is, my two cents is it's Joan Crawford) in The Casting Couch being a 'sad little whore' - from a 2022 perspective, since the poster's comment is being made now, in 2022. I mean, really? 95% of DL are whores, darling. At least 80% of them are also sad and little (you know it). Good for them.

Boring bitches like r455 spend WAY too much time trying to get people to argue with them. You're not interesting enough to argue with.

And yet here you are, R456.

Liberace and William Demarest absolutely sizzled on screen in "Sincerely Yours"

R455 is really intent on getting people to believe it's Joan Crawford in that porn loop.

R455, honey, if you have to try this hard to convince people, then it's a given you're wrong.

Wikipedia tells us "several weeks" of I LOVED A SOLDIER (Lubitsch prod, Hathaway dir) were shot, but all footage missing. That could have been as much as 30 minutes. The doomed Dietrich and Boyer film (1936) was eventually abandoned after a second false start.

Was Midnight Express cut?

...or uncut?

In the 2001 Todd Solondz movie "Storytelling", there was an entire third part of the movie that was cut and has never surfaced anywhere. It features James Van Der Beek in an explicit gay sex scene (he plays a closeted football player). The movie was awful otherwise but I wonder if JVDB's sequence could have redeemed it a little.

Doris Day and James Cagney filmed a "rape" scene for LOVE ME OR LEAVE ME. It was deleted by MGM execs due to censorship issues I believe.

Did Cagney have to stand on a stool?

Yes Doris said to Cagney 'If you rape me and I hear about it...'

R465 In bed?

[quote]And yet here you are, [R456].

Girls. GIRLS. You're both sad little whores. Now go to bed.

From IMDB:

"According to Doris Day, most of the scenes of violent confrontation between her and James Cagney (Marty Snyder) did not appear in the final film because the censors wouldn't approve them. After Ruth Etting is a triumph in the Ziegfeld Follies, Snyder comes to her hotel room to see her, and she tells him to get out of her life. As originally filmed, Cagney slammed her against a wall, savagely tore off her dress, and after a tempestuous struggle, he threw her onto a bed and raped her"

I've a copy of a patched together much longer than what was released GREED, and I still want more. It was fleshed out with more footage, stills and title cards. ZaSu Pitts was a treasure.

TCM shows like a 4-hour version of "Greed" with stills and so forth, and it's excellent. That finale in Death Valley is a stunner, especially after knowing the history of those two men over the course of the film has built up to that point.

Bonnie And Clyde

Madonna's full The Virgin Tour Live

What all was cut/edited from The Wizard Of Oz?

[quote]What all was cut/edited from The Wizard Of Oz?

Orgy scene involving the Lion, Tin Man, Scarecrow and Professor Marvel.

And Toto too.

[quote]What all was cut/edited from The Wizard Of Oz?

Major cuts:

1) An extended dance sequence for the Scarecrow (which exists and had been shown in one of the later THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT/DANCING series;

2)The "Jittebug" number, which only exists fragmentarily in the form of on-set home movies taken by Harold Arlen;

3) A reprise of "Over the Rainbow," sung by Dorothy in the Witch's castle

4) An elaborate production number, "Hail! Hail! The Witch is Dead," )sometimes called the "Restoration Sequence" ) which occurred after Dorothy kills the Wicked Witch of the West and made a triumphal return to the Emerald City. A few seconds of this sequence exists in the original theatrical trailer.

See below for more detail.

The full soundtrack exists for the "Jitterbug number" though. In the video scenes, you can see production staff manipulating the trees in the frame. It's a fun, catchy number musically, but it would most likely have dated the film.

It's unnecessary to have a musical number there. They shouldn't be singing and dancing at that point.

There are often very good reasons some of these films are lost.

A complete, every single piece off the cutting room floor version of Ridley Scott's Blade Runner. Perhaps it would finally make sense. I've seen three? four? different versions of the film (the Director's Cut, the Millennium Cut, etc.), and none of them ever quite made sense.

I once saw on YouTube some film student's linear recut of Tony Scott's non-linear True Romance, written by Mr. Non-Linear himself, Quentin Tarantino (because he was desperate for money to begin filming Reservoir Dogs). The film student's cut was far better, more coherent film making than what was released in the cinema. It disappeared from YouTube years ago.

Evita

Fox Movietone Follies Of 1929.

R483

"Black Coffee," the only filmed version of Agatha Christie's first stage play.

[quote]t's unnecessary to have a musical number there. They shouldn't be singing and dancing at that point.

The witch sent the insect to take the fight out of them. They left that line in the final edit.

Bringing it back on Oscar Sunday, despite the op apparently being a troll!

r49 here.

Getting through Bella Donna is a slog.

Colorized 1915 film.

[quote]A second vote for the original cut of Judy's "A Star is Born".

This will be sheer sacrilege to many people, but I think almost all of the cuts that were made to that film were for the better -- especially the LONG sequence where Norman and Esther are separated after he meets her, and then he spends all that time trying to find her again. Completely unnecessary, in my opinion.

[quote]I would also love to see the original cut of "The Wizard of Oz" containing the truly frightening Wicked Witch the pussies back then had butchered and "The Jitterbug" number. "Accident eh? Didn't mean it? Well my little pretty, I can cause accidents too! And this is how I do it!"

Here again, I think "The Jitterbug" was wisely cut. But yes, I would love to see all of that other film, especially the Wicked Witch's cut moments. I think I've read that one of her other lines that was cut, when the witch is planning to kill Dorothy and her friends just before she gets melted, was something like: "You won't believe what I'm about to do to you!!!!"

R490, Lou Lumenick, the New York Post's former film critic also wishes for the cut A Star Is Born to be released as at least an extra disc, he also infinitely prefers it to the still-version.

Thanks, R491.

The still version is horrible. Yes I would have loved to see the original version but it is gone forever. That still version is idiotic. It keeps breaking up what emotional flow is left.

I watched a decent copy of "The Silver Cord" on Vimeo. It's crazy. Laura Hope Crews and Irene Dunne are both good in it.

Greed (1925 or so)

I would love the complete extended version of Judy’s song “Who” from Till the Clouds Roll By. She really looked wonderful in that movie -even through a few months pregnant . She was in a happy point in her life and it was obvious (of course this happiness was short lived ) . They cut a few minutes from the number, but think even the part that remained was one of her best . Yes, I admit MARY. .

Faye as faux Marilyn.

While we're doing TV movies R497, the tv versions of 6 RMS RIV VU (Carol Burnett/Alan Alda), LOOK HOMEWARD ANGEL, A BELL FOR ADANO (60s version with John Forsythe), and RASHOMON (with Carol Lawrence and Ricardo Montalban!)

The "Restoration" number from The Wizard of Oz--a number they filmed where Dorothy and her friends bring the witch's broomstick to the Emerald City after liquidating her.

The "When We're Sixty-Five" number from On a Clear Day You Can See Forever (audio and stills of it exist, but no footage).