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WaPost: Educated whites are turning Blue Collar Folks into Republicans

This is an Achilles’ heel of the new Democratic Party,” ⁦@ChuckRocha⁩. “Our party is becoming a party that’s run by overeducated White folks, and we’re losing the messaging that made me join the Democrats in 1990 as a [union] rubber worker.”

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by Anonymousreply 131April 14, 2023 1:44 PM

I just ignore them.

by Anonymousreply 1October 22, 2022 1:04 AM

The “educated whites”. It’s all noise.

by Anonymousreply 2October 22, 2022 1:05 AM

I’m an “educated white” and I’m getting sick of the left’s shenanigans. I’d really like to reclaim my party.

by Anonymousreply 3October 22, 2022 1:08 AM

Et tu, Washington Post?

by Anonymousreply 4October 22, 2022 1:09 AM

It’s the 21st century. We can use the word “condoms”.

by Anonymousreply 5October 22, 2022 1:09 AM

Everywhere I turn nowadays I find more and more confirmation of the anti-intellectual bent of this country. It's always been there, but I guess I just wasn't paying attention. It's depressing.

by Anonymousreply 6October 22, 2022 1:13 AM

Educated whites do tend to "white=splain" a lot and when they're not "white-splaining" they're lecturing everybody about everything. People just want some money in their pocket, be able to feed their families, and enjoy a little bit of life, they don't want constant lectures about how everything is horrible and they're the reason for it.

Educated whites need to learn how to code switch. When you're not at a Harvard Alumni Reception, you have to be able to talk to regular people in a language they understand and then maybe they won't be so annoyed with you.

And this is not to say that some blue collar people aren't awful people who make awful choices based on awful beliefs, but if you want people on your side, sometimes you have to go where they are. Example 2008 Hillary Clinton. That Hillary would have won in 2016.

by Anonymousreply 7October 22, 2022 1:24 AM

Fine R7. I'll code switch if attractive people wear unattractive clothes and hairstyles to downplay their looks.

by Anonymousreply 8October 22, 2022 1:38 AM

R6, you just realized that?

by Anonymousreply 9October 22, 2022 1:39 AM

I agree R7.

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by Anonymousreply 10October 22, 2022 1:41 AM

Somehow the GOP has convinced the working ma that they are their party. Show me one Republican bill that benefits the working class. Just one. I will wait here counting my jelly beans.

by Anonymousreply 11October 22, 2022 1:48 AM

R11, it’s culture

by Anonymousreply 12October 22, 2022 1:50 AM
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by Anonymousreply 13October 22, 2022 1:52 AM

This has been happening for years.

by Anonymousreply 14October 22, 2022 1:56 AM

That stuff is frivolous, R13. People need to ignore that stuff. Let the states decide on that stuff.

by Anonymousreply 15October 22, 2022 2:00 AM

It's not so much the "educated" but the Woke Brigade pushing identity politics.

No one is thrilled about pronouns or drag queen story hour or non binary kids dressing up. Pushing that shit just annoys 80% of the population or terrifies them if they kids.

Who the fuck wants their 9 year old insisting they're a queer, non-binary make-up wearing asshole?

by Anonymousreply 16October 22, 2022 2:16 AM

[quote]Who the fuck wants their 9 year old insisting they're a queer, non-binary make-up wearing asshole?

Lol - they’re nine. A non-binary asshole today, a tree tomorrow. Don’t get worked up over this silliness. Focus on the important things like jobs.

by Anonymousreply 17October 22, 2022 2:19 AM

People who use “woke” as negative are deplorable

by Anonymousreply 18October 22, 2022 2:20 AM

"Our party is becoming a party that’s run by overeducated White folks, and we’re losing the messaging that made me join the Democrats in 1990 as a [union] rubber worker.”

And yet Republicans are vocally anti-union and Dems aren't

by Anonymousreply 19October 22, 2022 2:21 AM

"Who the fuck wants their 9 year old insisting they're a queer, non-binary make-up wearing asshole?"

Your fellow Republicans would say: Who the fuck wants their 9-year-old to identify as gay?

by Anonymousreply 20October 22, 2022 2:23 AM

r13 is scared of one trans person serving in the government. You Republicans are such fragile snowflakes

by Anonymousreply 21October 22, 2022 2:23 AM

This thread is so weird to see on a gay board. Who do you think was leading the way on gay marriage? It was "woke" (i.e. liberal) people and highly educated people. Studies show the more educated you are, the more likely you are to support gay rights. There was a time when even moderate Dems were against gay marriage and ONLY die hard liberals were supporting it

by Anonymousreply 22October 22, 2022 2:25 AM

I support gender confirmation for 21 and up.

by Anonymousreply 23October 22, 2022 2:27 AM

R22 DL is infested with Republicans and Russian bots.

by Anonymousreply 24October 22, 2022 2:27 AM

There is no excuse for anyone to vote for fascism.

by Anonymousreply 25October 22, 2022 2:29 AM

For a century the Democratic party was the party of plumbers and professors of sociology. But for whatever reason the Party decided 15 years ago that the whole worldview of people like professors of sociology needed to be adopted wholesale. And now in the last 5 years it has been all but declared that if you don't agree 100% with that worldview, you were a bigot who shouldn't be in the Party anyway. Despite praising unions, the Party abandoned class for identity.

What's crazy about this is that people who work as professors and in similar professions were never going to leave the Democratic party. The GOP didn't and doesn't want them. They had nowhere else to go. But instead of telling them to back off so that we can win general elections, we decided to give them complete control and give into every one of their increasingly schismatic demands.

by Anonymousreply 26October 22, 2022 2:32 AM

R26 is right. And it's quite sad.

by Anonymousreply 27October 22, 2022 2:33 AM

No...it's the reality that even smarter Dems/Liberals are smart enough to realize that Identity Politics and the Far Left's nutty obsession with transgender bullshit is undermining the ability for Dems/Libs to get anything done that needs to be done.

And, I'm 100% for actual trans folks but that's a tiny percentage of the popuation. It's the twits who've jumped on the "non binary" bandwagon because it's trendy who are causing all the problems. Obsessing over pronouns and trans agenda shit is just fuel for the Right and causes the middle of the road types to vote Republican.

by Anonymousreply 28October 22, 2022 2:36 AM

Ibsen’s “Enemy of the People” is forever relevant in the US. A doctor discovers that the water in city’s celebrated spas being contaminated. He thinks his discovery will make him a hero. See the play’s title to figure out what happens,

Similarly, Leo Strauss warned philosophers that they needed to keep their agenda secret from the public to avoid being seen as elitist. People simply won’t accept the truth if it’s not what they want to hear.

Democrats need to take note.

by Anonymousreply 29October 22, 2022 2:36 AM

“ I find more and more confirmation of the anti-intellectual bent of this country”

Same. Just didn’t expect our institutions of learning to be the epicenter.

🤷🏽‍♂️ 🤡

by Anonymousreply 30October 22, 2022 2:38 AM

No, their own sense of perceived grievance/victimhood is doing the trick. They are living proof of that old LBJ chestnut: “if you can convince the lowest White man that he is somehow better than the best Colored (sic) man…” It’s quite ridiculous, but the GQP and its minions (& apparently recent converts) are not known for their brilliance.

by Anonymousreply 31October 22, 2022 2:44 AM

Morbidly depressing.

by Anonymousreply 32October 22, 2022 2:45 AM

LBJ was a Dem, you idiot R31.

by Anonymousreply 33October 22, 2022 2:50 AM

[quote] Most Whites, particularly socio-political liberals, now endorse racial equality. Archival and experimental research reveals a subtle but reliable ironic consequence: White liberals self-present less competence to minorities than to other Whites—that is, they patronize minorities stereotyped as lower status and less competent.

[quote] In an initial archival demonstration of the competence downshift, Study 1 examined the content of White Republican and Democratic presidential candidates’ campaign speeches. Although Republican candidates did not significantly shift language based on audience racial composition, Democratic candidates used less competence-related language to minority audiences than to White audiences.

[quote] Across five experiments (total N = 2,157), White participants responded to a Black or White hypothetical (Studies 2, 3, 4, S1) or ostensibly real (Study 5) interaction partner.

[quote] Three indicators of self-presentation converged: sophistication of vocabulary selected for an assignment, competence-related traits selected for an introduction, and competence-related content of brief, open-ended introductions.

[quote] Conservatism indicators included: self-reported political affiliation (liberal-conservative), Right-Wing Authoritarianism (values-based conservatism) and Social Dominance Orientation (hierarchy-based conservatism). Internal meta-analyses revealed that liberals—but not conservatives—presented less competence to Black interaction partners than to White ones.

[quote] The simple effect was small but significant across studies, and most reliable for the self-reported measure of conservatism. This possibly unintentional but ultimately patronizing competence-downshift suggests that well-intentioned liberal Whites may draw on low-status/competence stereotypes to affiliate with minorities.

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by Anonymousreply 34October 22, 2022 2:50 AM

Irshad Manji - From Polarization to Conversation - 02/14/17

[quote] Irshad Manji is the founder of the Moral Courage Project, headquartered at the University of Southern California and committed to helping people identify, express, and act according to their values. In 2013, MCP launched its award-winning You-Tube channel, which features stories of people taking action in pursuit of the common good. MCP’s founder first came to prominence for her work as an Islamic reformer, and her book The Trouble with Islam was an international bestseller. A graduate of the University of British Columbia with a degree in the history of ideas, she describes herself as African by birth, Canadian by citizenship, and American by immersion. She is an advocate for human rights, social justice, diversity, and inclusion.

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by Anonymousreply 35October 22, 2022 2:52 AM

Obama made a good point recently about how the left is becoming impossibly overzealous in condemning anybody who doesn't speak in what can be described as 'woke' terms. He said people feel like they're walking on eggshells around some hypercritical people. I guess he was speaking for himself.

by Anonymousreply 36October 22, 2022 2:53 AM

r36 he has been called out by the squad more than once.

by Anonymousreply 37October 22, 2022 2:56 AM

Just because people are starting to criticize the democrats, doesn't mean everyone is secretly a republican. The democrats used to be for working people and before that they were the racist party. The inventors of Jim Crow laws. At least the southern democrats were racists. They are not such a great party. We need to get rid of the electoral college. We need more and different parties. The two-party system doesn't work when both parties become so extreme.

by Anonymousreply 38October 22, 2022 2:56 AM
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by Anonymousreply 39October 22, 2022 2:58 AM

[quote] Obama made a good point recently about how the left is becoming impossibly overzealous in condemning anybody who doesn't speak in what can be described as 'woke' terms.

According to R18 that means Obama is a deplorable.

by Anonymousreply 40October 22, 2022 3:00 AM

You know, my family lived in Michigan and they worked in auto plants and made cars. They were members of the UAW back when that meant something, before Reagan. Many people in my family, my father, uncles a couple of aunts, etc. didn't go to college. But they understood the issues.They understood trade and tariffs, and oil and gas, energy, etc. The union educated their members about the issues that affected them. The average union worker was more literate about politics than a lot of college educated people. You didn't have to drag them to the polls either. they worked the polls, they volunteered, they voted. This was certainly a fact in the 50's 60's and 70's. The Republicans were always trying to undermine and break the unions. Always. Ging back to the early 30's or even before that. Blood was shed to establish labor unions. IMO, the erosion of organized labor is a critical factor in why the so called "blue color" worker is not well informed. It is deliberate. The Republicans have weaponized low information voters, and created a false narrative of "us vs them" to keep us divided. Ironic. Because labor unions created the middle class. And after WW II Veterans coming home from war, got VA loans to by houses and subsidies for college. And Auto workers, had the ability to send their kids to college, and to retire with a pension. And our families had healthcare benefits. It is divisive bullshit that the Republicans have peddled as gospel to set up an adversarial relationship between formally educated and those who aren't. Ironically, as well, the Republicans are attacking our education system and they are obstructing any attempts to get a decent minimum wage or universal healthcare. Fuck them and their divisive hostile bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 41October 22, 2022 3:05 AM

r38 We need to get rid of the electoral college, so the cities of coastal elites can determine the rightaway for the entire nation, which at best they don't understand or at worst, despise....

the concept of the electoral college is essentially a good one... the problem, of course, is that the system has been gamed and largely due to dominating parties as well as the innate corruption within. Just as with any finance reforms from campaigns to insider trading, we can't expect them to actually police themselves or their organized bodies. . . yet the public has little recourse in countering this kind of corruption, especially when it comes from the highest levels of govt.

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by Anonymousreply 42October 22, 2022 3:06 AM

I agree. Kill the electoral college.

by Anonymousreply 43October 22, 2022 3:10 AM

Here's an example. That girl with the emu who went viral with Emmanuel Don't Do It - some zealous social justice warriors found some tweets she made 10 years ago where she made comments that appeared racially insensitive. The girl must have been 15 max back then. So the UeberWokesters have cancelled her just like JK Rowling got cancelled for saying people who menstruate are called women.

Twitter assholes like these are really harming us.

by Anonymousreply 44October 22, 2022 3:10 AM

I also really resent being lied to by our representatives. The whole gender/identity politics go completely against reality and yet we are expected to throw all critical thinking aside and adopt a lie and be expected to look the other way when children are being abused with gender care bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 45October 22, 2022 3:23 AM

Educated whites = Jews

by Anonymousreply 46October 22, 2022 3:27 AM

Wrong ^. Progressive white gays. Well, here at least.

by Anonymousreply 47October 22, 2022 3:29 AM

I also really resent being lied to by our representatives, by our community organizations and nonprofits, our media that act as partisan lobbyists. The whole gender/identity politics go completely against reality and yet we are expected to throw all critical thinking aside and adopt a lie and be expected to look the other way when they adopt the fringe aspects of feminist theories or sensationalized, exaggerated, performative activism within so called social justice circles and it's near religious dogma as fact or objective truth. . . and becomes supremacy movements. . . punching down in order to step up the ladder of the oppression olympics, the privilege stack, embracing the very bigotry it claims to fight in the name of equality, diversity, multiculturalism.

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by Anonymousreply 48October 22, 2022 3:31 AM
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by Anonymousreply 49October 22, 2022 3:32 AM

No one is watching a webinar. Why do you keep posting this link? You’ve been posting it for weeks.

by Anonymousreply 50October 22, 2022 3:32 AM

Democrats are not pushing trans issues. That is a scare tactic used by Fox News.

No one can handle nuance anymore or compromise. When Republicans take over people will go back to Democrats.

It’s cyclical. The danger now is that Republicans will never cede power once they win.

by Anonymousreply 51October 22, 2022 3:39 AM

r30 years, dear, years. You may not watch it, you can block me, even ff me but probably end up closing the thread or only temporarily delaying my antics to repost it another day. You can scream, pout, cry, throw yourself on the floor and have a full out tantrum. You can do whatever you please.

I just find when most of the tranny obsessed people post here about the evil trans, they include gays and lesbians as well. Of course, their definition of "lesbian" is more variable. It's often the kind which is a political statement, sort of a feminist version of mgtow and they tend to be rather lesbiophobic to actual lesbians to those women that are physically attracted to other women, the way they socialize - lesbian culture if you will, even down to how they have sex.

so, we go to the root of their history, their rhetoric, which trans has always meant gay. . . even while they try to recruit us, claim to be in solidarity. . . like those with the organization Get The L Out and the homophobic rhetoric in their writings even while they co-opt the identity of lesbian, actively work to undermine lesbian rights and liberties, force themselves into lesbian spaces and take the public spotlight as being the majority representation of lesbians. . . not unlike their complaints against trans.

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by Anonymousreply 52October 22, 2022 3:40 AM

In New York State particularly but in the Democratic party in general the mantra has been: "The Future is Women" That is incredibly alienating. I don't think I've heard the Democrats use the word "men" in a non-derogatory context since 2017. I've been a gay democrat for forty five years. If the future is women. I'm voting republican. I know it "just a slogan" but when I think of it in the context of "The Future is Men" what are we striving for here diversity or a change of who is privileged.

by Anonymousreply 53October 22, 2022 3:41 AM

R21, she shoo is ugly!

by Anonymousreply 54October 22, 2022 3:42 AM

[quote] People who use “woke” as negative are deplorable

People caring about the world and/or other people is just so fucking inconvenient when you want to exploit everyone and everything.

Ergo, calling everything "woke" mocks anyone who cares.

A lesson learned from other times MAGAt types shit in the punchbowl in terms of catchphrases....

"Antifa" = Let's make fighting fascism - literally what our ancestors did in WWII, which defined so much of this country - sound like a weird, foreign and possibly Islamic word!

"Critical race theory" = "Let's make something happening in a few universities sound like it will be taught to 2nd graders!"

"Virtue signaling" = Let's make caring about shit and sharing that with anyone anywhere in even the tiniest way sound like an act of narcissism!

by Anonymousreply 55October 22, 2022 3:48 AM

Yes R53 the democrats are actually pushing trans issues. Newsom is putting men in women's prisons, Biden is hiring men and calling them women, and taking advice from Tik Tok influencers that are trans. There is a huge push to put men in positions so they don't have to hire women. They just hire men and call them women. Not too intelligent to go against half of the population.

by Anonymousreply 56October 22, 2022 3:50 AM
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by Anonymousreply 57October 22, 2022 3:51 AM

r55 while the perspective towards the right applies to many on a superficial level, the truth of the matter the left oversimplifies those issues and makes them into sword and shield. . . which transforms the landscape that anyone that takes issue with such things, therefore must be a far right neo fascist. Not unlike how "Trump" is used to trump any legitimate criticism or the whataboutism well, republicans, "magats" are worse. So, neener, neener, neener.

of course, similarities apply among republicans superficial view of the post-western civilization libtard communists.

by Anonymousreply 58October 22, 2022 3:57 AM
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by Anonymousreply 59October 22, 2022 3:59 AM

R52, are you a foreigner frau?

English is obviously not your first language.

by Anonymousreply 60October 22, 2022 4:01 AM

Educated white woman with masters degree. I left right before the 2014 midterms. I'll never vote blue again. Ever.

by Anonymousreply 61October 22, 2022 4:07 AM

r60 oh, look another magat that hates the diversity of America. You're all foreigners.. save the small percentage of you that can claim legal native status even though your tribes are probably of mixed blood lines having been raped by colonialism in the distant past, forced assimilation in the near past, and forced diversity quotas in the present. Really, ndns, unless you're in full regalia or wearing turquoise jewelry, painting with all the colours of the wind and pimping out your children to celebrities... nobody can tell you're ndn.

by Anonymousreply 62October 22, 2022 4:09 AM

I took the quiz from R57's link. I got stressed sideliner.

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by Anonymousreply 63October 22, 2022 4:10 AM

That quiz, if you don’t support the trans question, it skews you rightwing. I don’t trust that quiz. I prefer isidewith.

by Anonymousreply 64October 22, 2022 4:13 AM

Shut up, r62. You’re a ridiculous person.

by Anonymousreply 65October 22, 2022 4:13 AM

r65 I'm sorry your autism is stressing you out.

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by Anonymousreply 66October 22, 2022 4:16 AM

I’m not arguing with fraus.

by Anonymousreply 67October 22, 2022 4:17 AM

Some of those questions in that quiz - yikes, talk about loaded. One of the questions actually used the phrase "sex they were assigned at birth".

by Anonymousreply 68October 22, 2022 4:19 AM

If you’ve been educated in America, you’re uneducated. Universities today are nothing more than money-making Marxist propaganda machines. It’s not about learning but indoctrinating. It’s all groupthink. This is why students now believe they can decide the curriculum and tear the places down if they don’t get their way.

by Anonymousreply 69October 22, 2022 4:20 AM

[quote] Democrats are not pushing trans issues. That is a scare tactic used by Fox News.

That’s some serious gaslighting.

by Anonymousreply 70October 22, 2022 4:23 AM

[quote] Who do you think was leading the way on gay marriage? It was "woke" (i.e. liberal) people and highly educated people.

Wrong. Woke people are homophobic assholes who want homosexuality erased and transed. Wokes don’t recognize gays.

by Anonymousreply 71October 22, 2022 4:25 AM

Excuse me, asshole/OP: Why did you refer to educated WHITES and not low income WHITES? You do know blue collar people come in more than one color and most of those colors are NOT Republican.

R71, you're an uneducated moron who has no clue about the history of woke and it is in fact the fucking reason you have rights, you desperate-for-right-wing approval, racist motherfucker. You're the scum who enabled Trump and the Christian Nationalist assholes. YOU did.

by Anonymousreply 72October 22, 2022 4:28 AM

[quote]Kamala Harris, she/her pronouns

And this is mandating that you go through a sex-change? Like that poster said, it's FOX that makes you do this little hysterical act into believing the trans issue is bigger than it is. I suspect most of you never leave your fucking hovels if you think trans affect your daily lives.

by Anonymousreply 73October 22, 2022 4:31 AM
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by Anonymousreply 74October 22, 2022 4:31 AM

[quote]Educated white woman with masters degree. I left right before the 2014 midterms. I'll never vote blue again. Ever.

An "educated" person would never vote Republican in its current state. There is no justification that could even make you look good. You're clearly a shitstain of a person.

by Anonymousreply 75October 22, 2022 4:34 AM

"overeducated"

by Anonymousreply 76October 22, 2022 4:35 AM
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by Anonymousreply 77October 22, 2022 4:37 AM

R56, more hysterical conjecture, please! Your hyperbole is so awesome.

by Anonymousreply 78October 22, 2022 4:41 AM

No surprise that I can't see many of the posts. A thread like this attracts the usual, deplorable trash being the pigs to shit that they are

by Anonymousreply 79October 22, 2022 4:42 AM

Rigid conformity seems to be more of a requirement now. "Sides" are more entrenched and deviation from the doctrine is heresy. The demand for conformity and purity is quite high.

by Anonymousreply 80October 22, 2022 4:53 AM

r51 In 2016, Democrats promised us concentration camps where all the cool cats were going to be locked away, all the gays in a fitness and diet bootcamp of raw, hard, sweaty labour and endless orgies. . . yet republicans, scum that they were, never got their shit together to set it up.

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by Anonymousreply 81October 22, 2022 5:01 AM

They’re talking about two different things when it comes to “educated whites.” There’s the educated whites who went to college for a reasonable degree and learned important critical thinking skills and can look at things pragmatically and not get sucked into any doctrine.

Then there’s the “educated whites” they’re talking about, which means they completed at least one general education requirement where a professor who was promoted above their ability and still speaks with fourth grade language skills screaming at them about how racism is the worst thing in the world while telling them that they are impure and inherently evil due to their skin color and being too ignorant and trashy to see the blatant hypocrisy in the words.

The con is up. Do they want the educated whites who will keep the country running in a less showy but progressive manner? Or do we want the educated whites who will burn it on all down due to pettiness and resentment?

And if so, who is gonna foot the bill?

by Anonymousreply 82October 22, 2022 6:35 AM

Well, geez. I’m so sorry I went to grad school. Would you respect me more if I worked at Wendy’s and spread my hole open on OnlyFans?

by Anonymousreply 83October 22, 2022 6:40 AM

Isn’t this really the same issue of cities v. suburbia and rural?

And of course blaming city dwellers for everything.

What’s the Republican plan? More cops and jails but less taxes? Good luck

by Anonymousreply 84October 22, 2022 6:48 AM

r84

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by Anonymousreply 85October 22, 2022 7:07 AM

What does he mean "are turning?" This process already happened, it's complete.

For the hottest political news of 2008, the Washinton Post can't be beat 🤣

Next up... are latinos satisfied with the Democratic Party?

by Anonymousreply 86October 22, 2022 7:15 AM
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by Anonymousreply 87October 22, 2022 7:25 AM
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by Anonymousreply 88October 22, 2022 7:25 AM

I just did the Pewresearch quiz and what a load of nonsense!!!

Not a single question about economic equality, gender or sexuality equality (except for trans issues), nothing about minimum wages, the pandemic, environmental issues, housing, healthcare, the voting system...anything that actually fucking matters to most of us.

Nope it's all about what we're taking offencing to this week.

Our world is on fire and Pew think what really divides us is this trivial shite.

by Anonymousreply 89October 22, 2022 11:49 AM

It’s depressing how the media have embraced the right-wing framing of current politics: cancel culture, wokeness, culture wars, etc.

by Anonymousreply 90October 22, 2022 12:06 PM

Lol the media is 90% hardline Democratic voters and they still aren't liberal enough?

by Anonymousreply 91October 22, 2022 12:10 PM

[quote]And yet Republicans are vocally anti-union and Dems aren't

Yes, blue-collar workers are willing to vote against their economic self interests in order to register their disapproval of some of the more outré Democratic policies. I think that's an incredibly destructive choice -- but I don't have kids in schools that are pushing the idea that boys can be girls and I don't live in a section of town where criminals with long rap sheets continue to reoffend and are released without bail. I

by Anonymousreply 92October 22, 2022 12:31 PM

Oh those poor working-class. Not an iota of self-will amongst them. They can't even take credit for voting Republican; the Educated White Devils made them do it!

The implicit contempt in the title probably plays a large role in the swing.

After all, why would people raising families as they work two jobs outside white glove office environments or the professional class, know enough about life to vote based on that experience?

Every study ever done on how people vote has shown that people vote with their guts, not their brains.

Including educated whites, busily striving to maintain good gut health by pouring turmeric and bone broth down their throats every day.

That must be it! That is why the guts of the educated white voters' tell them the right way to vote!

by Anonymousreply 93October 22, 2022 12:34 PM

^* voters (not voters')

Fucking autocorrect.

by Anonymousreply 94October 22, 2022 12:35 PM

[quote]“Our party is becoming a party that’s run by overeducated White folks, and we’re losing the messaging that made me join the Democrats in 1990 as a [union] rubber worker.”

This guy is about 60 years behind, I'm afraid. The Republicans slowly rolled out the Southern Strategy in the 1960s, and went all-in on it in 1968, with this exact kind of talk. EXACT. "Democrats are elitist and overeducated and don't have the common man's concerns at heart, like we do," Republicans told Southerners who were mad because Democrats thought blacks deserved human rights.

I'm tired of the media telling Democrats and liberals that they have to make a show of caring the most about white straight Christian people first and everyone else second, otherwise they're "overeducated elites" who deserve to lose.

I'm tired of the trolls like r92 telling me that all Democrats do is force trannies down the throats of innocent widdle kids, and let the Negro steal everything without any consequences.

Vote Republican then, asshole. That goes for the guy quoted in the OP and r92 and everyone in between who acts like that. Just vote Republican and shut the fuck up about it. Stop acting like it's your job to convince everyone on DL to do the same.

by Anonymousreply 95October 22, 2022 12:38 PM

[quote]Democrats promised us concentration camps where all the cool cats were going to be locked away, all the gays in a fitness and diet bootcamp of raw, hard, sweaty labour

Democrats didn't promise YOU anything, Mr. "Labour."

by Anonymousreply 96October 22, 2022 12:40 PM

He's not wrong but oh well...let them eat cake. How dare you care more about inflation than the reproductive rights of non binary FTM transgenders.

by Anonymousreply 97October 22, 2022 12:40 PM

R3, I hear you brother. I'm not white but I hear you.

by Anonymousreply 98October 22, 2022 12:41 PM

The problem with America is that it’s filled with Americans.

by Anonymousreply 99October 22, 2022 12:44 PM

I was telling Margareta my Latinx maid that she should support teaching sexual and gender identity issues to kindergarteners. She agreed with me, she said "Sure Miss Lindsay, whatever you say."

Why can't white working class people be so compliant, er reasonable?

by Anonymousreply 100October 22, 2022 12:44 PM

When my grandparents grew up during the depression, College was an impossible dream. Getting an education was getting a high school diploma. And I had great aunts and uncles who never went to high school or never made it past 9-10th grade. But they were smart people. They read books and Grandma said there were three newspapers and they had delivery of all three every day. There were a lot of immigrants coming in speaking foreign languages. The first TV in the family was at Great Grandma's house and my grandmother remembers watching I love Lucy and other stuff as a kid. The divisions between working class Americans and wealthy people wasn't based on intelligence. It was based on wealth.

by Anonymousreply 101October 22, 2022 12:44 PM

[quote]How dare you care more about inflation than the reproductive rights of non binary FTM transgenders.

People can care about more than one thing at a time. They can take the platform, actions, history and goals of each candidate and/or party and look at them as a whole.

Unfortunately trolls, the media, and a lot of politicians want you to think only in terms of a few separate, disparate issues, and to get emotional about them, then vote on those one or two issues that bother you.

I guess if you don't do that and instead look at the bigger picture, you're an "overeducated elite," right?

by Anonymousreply 102October 22, 2022 12:45 PM

R102 doesn’t understand sarcasm.

by Anonymousreply 103October 22, 2022 12:47 PM

Of course it was sarcasm, r103, but do you really not understand WHY they made that sarcastic statement?

by Anonymousreply 104October 22, 2022 12:48 PM

“ Unfortunately trolls, the media, and a lot of politicians want you to think only in terms of a few separate, disparate issues”

You’re seeing the wall to wall abortion ads too?

by Anonymousreply 105October 22, 2022 12:59 PM

Alarms bells should have went off when democrats started losing white tge working class in the northeast. White working class as whole went republican after the Civil rights 60s but not in New york, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and all of new England. Some of these people may have echoed the words nigger, kite-- in ways that would make Robert E Lee jealous but they still were reliably Democrat. Staten Island is like 70% republican now. It's a cultural problem.

by Anonymousreply 106October 22, 2022 1:10 PM

r106 ah, yes, the poors don't have legitimate problems. they're just savages, racists and superpredators.

by Anonymousreply 107October 22, 2022 8:19 PM

Progressives need strong masculine men in leadership and media

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by Anonymousreply 108February 14, 2023 11:31 AM

"Over-educated White folks." Oh, God forbid any "White folks" be educated beyond the comfort level of MAGats and whoever else's feet that shoe fits!

That a journalist could seriously posit this as a "problem" FOR THE EDUCATED is just another sign of the Apocalypse.

by Anonymousreply 109February 14, 2023 12:12 PM

The more time I spend in rural areas and small towns, the more it becomes apparent that the GOP's greatest strength (in its current iteration) is a large population of people subjected to lead exposure from birth. It lowers childhood iq, impairs executive functioning skills and impulse control through adulthood, contributes to a sense of permanent paranoia, and gets worse with age as bone tissue breaks down and stored lead is released into the blood again.

There are large areas of the country (and the world) where it affects both the lower and middle classes. A permanent news cycle emphasizing fear and anger is like an accelerant to that.

Two of the most radical steps liberals could take long-term is subsidizing lead abatement and oversight, in low-income areas and cities, and funding training and service programs for rural mental health specialists.

Unfortunately, both of those are enormously expensive undertakings.

by Anonymousreply 110February 14, 2023 12:14 PM

I used to believe the "coastal elites need to change their rhetoric about poor whites" angle, too. But it's a straw man. The real solution is addressing the deeper problems and factors that attract people to radicalization (which is what the GOP is at this point) in the first place.

by Anonymousreply 111February 14, 2023 12:17 PM

Being condescending to Middle America won’t improve liberals’ relationship with it

by Anonymousreply 112February 14, 2023 12:20 PM

Your average "educated white" is incapable of conceiving that they might be ignorant on a wide variety of subjects.

They also aren't reliably intelligent people.

by Anonymousreply 113February 14, 2023 12:22 PM

R111 I think you're a bigoted retard and getting rid of your pompous ass is step 1 to solving quite a few problems.

by Anonymousreply 114February 14, 2023 12:29 PM

R114- By all means, I invite you to spend two years doing volunteer mental health outreach in rural areas, and then tell me what your conclusions are at the end. I'm from the area that I work in, both as a personal trainer and as a mental health volunteer. It is in my own interest to accurately assess what is going on with the local population, physically and mentally.

by Anonymousreply 115February 14, 2023 12:49 PM

R115 I feel bad for the people you're failing. What a prejudiced cunt.

by Anonymousreply 116February 14, 2023 12:51 PM

R113, The term was "over-educated." Wording matters. This term refers clearly to people with higher degrees, implying that such learning is both elite and effete and puts the person on a plane from which to condescend (looking at r112 and r113) to "Middle America" (Irony Alert: The implication that "Middle America" is not as educated is the real condescension).

Moreover, r113, "overly-educated" people know very well their areas of ignorance. It is the poorly educated who are incapable of realizing what they do not know.

The REALITY is that many of us (Masters +) are strong Democrats/Liberals. This has been true since at least the days of Adlai "Egghead" Stevenson and JFK.

I'm not convinced it's level of education and where, or relative wealth, or even doing the good work of r115 that makes or breaks a political candidate.

I think it's personality and a sincere conveyance of genuine caring about others. That empathy transcends degrees and Party. In my lifetime there have been few politicians that had this quality.

And the one who surpassed the rest was Bobby Kennedy.

by Anonymousreply 117February 14, 2023 1:01 PM

R117 Jack and Bobby Kennedy would be conservative Republicans in the modern political climate.

by Anonymousreply 118February 14, 2023 1:04 PM

That’s nonsense

by Anonymousreply 119February 14, 2023 1:15 PM

Accurate!

by Anonymousreply 120February 14, 2023 1:32 PM

R63 the quiz determined I’m establishment liberal and I was negative on the trans question.

by Anonymousreply 121February 14, 2023 7:20 PM

R118, How glib. And you might take note that I did not mention Cold Warrior JFK.

Bobby would not be any kind of Republican, you dolt.

by Anonymousreply 122February 14, 2023 8:31 PM

R116- Calm down. We're both cunts.

by Anonymousreply 123February 14, 2023 11:03 PM

That Pew poll is a mess--poorly written. I ended up as a committed conservative, which is hilarious. I'm an overeducated coastal elite with the voting record to prove it. I like most of what Biden has done and plan to continue voting for Democrats.

From what I can figure out, it was my mild negative on trans (I don't think anyone who went through a male adolescence belongs in women's sports, don't think minors should medical transition and don't think pre-op MTFs belong in women's prisons, but I don't have an issue with other things) and thinking the U.S. should have a presence overseas, which is way in more in line with Biden's policies than Trump's . . . how does not being an isolationist make me a conservative?

Meanwhile, no questions on women's rights, treatment of immigrants, the environment or global warming or the death penalty--all things that put me on the left. I did say I thought prison sentences were too long, so how am I committed conservative with that attitude?

by Anonymousreply 124February 14, 2023 11:36 PM

These illiterate trash are just sick of "uppity" educated people making them feel as stupid as they are.

It's the same reason Donald Trump hates Elizabeth Warren so much. She reminds him of all the teachers and librarians who told him he was a fuckin' moron over the years.

Educated whites are the librarians who shushed you. We're the doctors who told you your heart attack came from smoking and red meat. We're the lawyer who wouldn't take your case when you got run over by your own jet-ski. We're the bureaucrat who told you you couldn't build a homemade jacuzzi on your roof without a permit. We're the astronauts who got to go into space while you can't even afford a Greyhound ticket. We're the ones who own the toilets you clean, the Amazon packages you lug, and the Acuras you polish with a diaper. We are walking reminders of all the things you hate about yourselves, so it's natural for you to hate our snooty guts.

by Anonymousreply 125February 15, 2023 12:08 AM

There is no such thing as overeducated.

There is such a thing as undereducated.

by Anonymousreply 126February 15, 2023 12:28 AM

Bump

by Anonymousreply 127April 14, 2023 11:12 AM

Why are you bumping this, retard?

by Anonymousreply 128April 14, 2023 11:29 AM

Buncha hooey.

by Anonymousreply 129April 14, 2023 11:34 AM

“I got my education!!”

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by Anonymousreply 130April 14, 2023 12:58 PM

I unfortunately live smack in the middle of red-neck town. I expect them to be uneducated and racist. Misogynistic. It is the educated middie class people who surprise me. These people, I didn't think, were racist or homophobic. But in the past two years or so two things have caused them to become " fed up with this stuff." Reparations is one such issue. They say they are sick of being accused of being racist. They are sick of it!!! Transgender people demanding we ignore biology and science and allow men to use women's restrooms and join women's sport teams.

by Anonymousreply 131April 14, 2023 1:44 PM
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