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Carly Simon’s Two Sisters Are Dead To Me

The sisters died a day apart this week. Joanna died from thyroid cancer on Wednesday, and Lucy died Thursday from breast cancer.

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by Anonymousreply 198February 14, 2023 3:06 AM

Cancer is a cunt.

by Anonymousreply 1October 21, 2022 9:59 PM

Awwww....

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by Anonymousreply 2October 21, 2022 10:01 PM

I bet you think this thread is about them.

by Anonymousreply 3October 21, 2022 10:04 PM

Carly is the only sibling left standing. Their brother Peter died in 2018 of cardiac arrest. He had also battled lung cancer.

by Anonymousreply 4October 21, 2022 10:05 PM

You're so vain. You had to die the same week that I did.

by Anonymousreply 5October 21, 2022 10:06 PM

How was Friday?

by Anonymousreply 6October 21, 2022 10:08 PM

Joanna was Walter Cronkite's partner after his wife died.

by Anonymousreply 7October 21, 2022 10:10 PM

And...

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by Anonymousreply 8October 21, 2022 10:12 PM

Joanna Simon was a WML panelist.

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by Anonymousreply 9October 21, 2022 10:15 PM

It was so neato that they were musical sisters. I wonder if never were there such devoted to each other. Poor Carly.

by Anonymousreply 10October 21, 2022 10:19 PM

TV news anchor Walter Cronkite and opera singer Joanna Simon arrive at The Metropolitan Opera's Opening...

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by Anonymousreply 11October 21, 2022 10:19 PM

Now, the entire panel and host Larry Blyden are dead R9. Dolly the contestant is too.

by Anonymousreply 12October 21, 2022 10:21 PM

[quote]R10: I wonder if never were there such devoted to each other.

Oooooooooooooooooh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 13October 21, 2022 10:22 PM

Nobody loses them better

by Anonymousreply 14October 21, 2022 10:24 PM
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by Anonymousreply 15October 21, 2022 10:26 PM

They’re both very striking in OP, possibly more so than Carly.

by Anonymousreply 16October 21, 2022 10:26 PM

The Secret Garden

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by Anonymousreply 17October 21, 2022 10:27 PM

R6, Carly broke a nail.

by Anonymousreply 18October 21, 2022 10:28 PM

One DLer posted here that Carly was not only lying about her age, but made her sisters lie about their ages, too

I looked her NY birth records up on ancestry....she is indeed lying about her age. She's a couple years older than she claims to be

by Anonymousreply 19October 21, 2022 10:29 PM

Jackie Onassis was my true sister

by Anonymousreply 20October 21, 2022 10:35 PM

Joanna died one day before her 86th birthday.

Their bro died in 2018 from cancer at 71.

Carly is the only child left.

by Anonymousreply 21October 22, 2022 12:18 AM

She had ice skates and legs that fit right in, but she couldn't live forever.

by Anonymousreply 22October 22, 2022 12:28 AM

I remember seeing Joanna Simon on “WML” as a kid, R9, didn’t know at the time that she and Carly Simon were sisters!

by Anonymousreply 23October 22, 2022 12:33 AM

Carly is a notorious oversharer. Her sisters wouldn’t speak to her for a long time after she spilled the tea about their parents for vanity fair.

by Anonymousreply 24October 22, 2022 12:44 AM

That's so heartbreaking. Reminds me of Vanessa Redgrave losing both her sister and brother to cancer in 2010 just one year after her daughter Natasha died in a ski accident. So much loss in such a short period of time. I hope Carly's kids provide her comfort.

by Anonymousreply 25October 22, 2022 12:56 AM

Sad to be all alone in the world

by Anonymousreply 26October 22, 2022 1:02 AM

[quote]So much loss in such a short period of time. I hope Carly's kids provide her comfort.

Drugs will provide her comfort.

by Anonymousreply 27October 22, 2022 1:09 AM

[quote] I hope Carly's kids provide her comfort.

In 3…2…1…

by Anonymousreply 28October 22, 2022 1:21 AM

yes r28, her Ben will comfort her, intimately

by Anonymousreply 29October 22, 2022 1:37 AM

No trifecta?

by Anonymousreply 30October 22, 2022 1:37 AM

Very sad.

Lucy Simon was very talented.

by Anonymousreply 31October 22, 2022 3:41 AM

It amuses me that reedy, small voiced Carly Simon had a singer who sang opera. Was Joanna successful in that area?

by Anonymousreply 32October 22, 2022 4:00 AM

*had a sister who sang opera.

by Anonymousreply 33October 22, 2022 4:00 AM

I was thinking the same thing R32/R33. I love Carly's music but yeah, her voice is super thin and reedy, especially in live performance. Joanna, the opera singer, sounded nothing like that.

by Anonymousreply 34October 22, 2022 4:05 AM

r32, You might check out, r2.

by Anonymousreply 35October 22, 2022 4:07 AM

Did they lie about their ages too like Carly does?

by Anonymousreply 36October 22, 2022 4:09 AM

“To lose one sister may be regarded as misfortune; to lose both looks like carelessness.”

by Anonymousreply 37October 22, 2022 4:21 AM

I love the idea that two female performers were FORCED to lie about their ages because of thing other singing sister... I doubt much arm twisting was involved.

by Anonymousreply 38October 22, 2022 4:23 AM

I'm bricked up and waiting for you, Mama.

by Anonymousreply 39October 22, 2022 4:23 AM

*their other singing sister

by Anonymousreply 40October 22, 2022 4:23 AM

Damn. Carly's hair is terrible here. Joanna had a nice, measured speaking voice. Carly seems exhausting.

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by Anonymousreply 41October 22, 2022 4:24 AM

Two for the price of one funeral.

by Anonymousreply 42October 22, 2022 4:30 AM

I wish I could care more but I haven't got time for the pain.

by Anonymousreply 43October 22, 2022 4:32 AM

[quote] It was so neato that they were musical sisters.

Sure, Jan.

by Anonymousreply 44October 22, 2022 4:34 AM

Didn’t Carley fuck her son?

by Anonymousreply 45October 22, 2022 4:35 AM

Joanna's son? Or Lucy's son?

by Anonymousreply 46October 22, 2022 4:40 AM

It's not as though they were taken in the first flush of youth. It's sad that they died in the same week, but after age 75, only a naive person would continue to assume that all the people around were immortal. (That clock's a tickin' for all of us) These sisters were in their 80s. Carly's the baby at 79.

Since the fact that Carly had some significant black ancestry (10%) via her Cuban grandmother came out in "Finding your roots - with Henry Gates Jr", I would love to have been a fly on the wall during that post-show conversation with her sisters. I'm sure that there are tons of people in the US like the Simon sisters who have black ancestry they're unaware of. It only makes sense that people who could pass for white in the past would do so given half an opportunity, if only to make the lives of their children easier.

by Anonymousreply 47October 22, 2022 5:28 AM

So sad. I can't imagine losing siblings a day apart after long illnesses. Sending love to Carly.

by Anonymousreply 48October 22, 2022 5:41 AM

I had two elderly aunts, sisters, who died within a week of each other. The DNA in that branch of the family is riddled with diabetes, heart disease, and obesity.

by Anonymousreply 49October 22, 2022 5:43 AM

[quote] Since the fact that Carly had some significant black ancestry (10%) via her Cuban grandmother came out in "Finding your roots - with Henry Gates Jr", I would love to have been a fly on the wall during that post-show conversation with her sisters.

Is 10% "significant"?! I wouldn't say so. Cuz yeah, there are lots of "white" folks walking around with about that much. It's approximately having one GREAT grandparent who is mixed race. I guess it might be significant if it were 1843 in Mississippi.

by Anonymousreply 50October 22, 2022 5:47 AM

Carly's mouth area has always been attributed to her maternal Black ancestry. Joanna also had a full mouth and luscious lips. Come to think of it, Joanna looked like a prettier version of Carol Channing - another White performer who was believed to be part Black.

by Anonymousreply 51October 22, 2022 5:51 AM

I don't think she was known to have maternal Black ancestry until recently. I have heard comparisons to Mick Jagger based on the size and shape of their mouths.

Culturally, you don't get much whiter than Carly Simon. The manner in which she was raised, her lifestyle, the sound and content of the music she created. I don't think too much can be made of that little bit of basically unacknowledged non-white ancestry.

by Anonymousreply 52October 22, 2022 6:00 AM

It’s a Two-For-One Shiva!!!

by Anonymousreply 53October 22, 2022 6:01 AM

I don't care if Carly's voice was considered thin. She wrote and performed some classic music. Great style.

by Anonymousreply 54October 22, 2022 6:12 AM

I'm in my forties and I've heard rumblings about Carly's heritage for decades. Maybe it was officially confirmed on Finding Your Roots, but it's been talked about long before then (and in the black community as well). Of course, it was probably kept hush hush by Carly's mother back then for obvious reasons.

by Anonymousreply 55October 22, 2022 6:23 AM

R52, yeah, doesn’t get much whiter than being raised in the household of Simon of Simon & Schuster…

by Anonymousreply 56October 22, 2022 6:44 AM

Joanna resembles Dolly Parton in some of those pictures. In the face at least.

by Anonymousreply 57October 22, 2022 7:01 AM

You get approximately 50% of your genes from each parent, and approximately 25% from each grandparent, so 10% is essentially the contribution from one great-grandparent. Of course it depends on the age when people have children, but my mom knows her great grandchildren and they know her - they'd notice if she were black, so it would be significant to them. (She's 100 yo, BTW). But more likely, given the social stratification in Cuba at the time, Carly's grandmother was probably the product of two mixed-race parents with varying amounts of black and white ancestry. As some have mentioned above, most of what we turn out to be is determined by our upbringing - the amount of money and education we receive, and the personalities of our parents, not by the genes that show which continent our ancestors came from. I think Carly did know that her grandmother was Cuban, and I think she knew her at least as a young child. But she is more likely to remember her grandmother's personality, her voice and her accent, whatever treats she handed out to her grandchildren, than anything cultural related to her black ancestry in Cuba. I don't think most educated white people would freak out if they discovered that they had some black ancestry, unless they were raised as out-and-out bigots - but many would be quite surprised, especially if it had not been discussed within the family.

by Anonymousreply 58October 22, 2022 7:26 AM

That is awful. Carly has always struck me as nuttier than a fruitcake and emotionally fragile—I cannot imagine how she's taking this.

Also, I've never felt that Carly's voice was thin. Sure, she was never a belter, but she had a well-rounded, lovely contralto. A great singer and a talented musician.

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by Anonymousreply 59October 22, 2022 7:39 AM

Debbie and Carrie say hi!

by Anonymousreply 60October 22, 2022 7:49 AM

A piece from a show on the sisters and the Simon family from a show that aired in the early 80s.

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by Anonymousreply 61October 22, 2022 11:35 AM

Carly has a breast cancer scare in the 1990s.

She wrote how Warren Beatty couldn't deal with the fact that she'd had a mastectomy.

by Anonymousreply 62October 22, 2022 12:15 PM

I recall Carly's story about how she and Lucy returned to NY from London on one of the Cunard ships. Also on board was Sean Connery. They had dinner together. He wanted a three-way, but the sisters weren't into that. So Lucy got to fuck him. To Carly, her prettier sister had won the prize.

by Anonymousreply 63October 22, 2022 12:20 PM

TIL Carly Simon has siblings. Or had.

by Anonymousreply 64October 22, 2022 12:26 PM

R64, same. And I’m middle-aged. It’s strange to be filling in the gaps in my pop culture knowledge at this late stage.

by Anonymousreply 65October 22, 2022 12:51 PM

I'm the person who revealed many years ago that all three sisters were fibbing about their ages. I knew my source was reliable.

I also know that Carly agreed to be a source for the book about her, Carole King, and Joni Mitchell if the author never revealed her real age. For example, the book is very vague about things that would tip you off. Carly graduated from high school, but we are never told when.

by Anonymousreply 66October 22, 2022 1:06 PM

Isn't Carly crying poverty these days?

I seem to remeber reading about her whining how she's not making the kind of money she used to (70s and 80s), but I guess this is understood.

Didn't she sell her house a few years ago? Whether she has more houses, I don't know. I guarantee she's not homeless.

Those risidual checks from Warner Brothers certainly can't be supporting her. She said she's not connected with Simon and Schuster anymore.

by Anonymousreply 67October 22, 2022 1:40 PM

Doesn't she perform on cruise ships?

by Anonymousreply 68October 22, 2022 1:41 PM

Thought she owned a large chunk of Nantucket or Martha’s Vinyard?

by Anonymousreply 69October 22, 2022 1:42 PM

Her father was the Simon from Simon & Schuster and she grew up in Fieldston in Riverdale, the toniest Jewish neighborhood in the city, so she obviously has money.

by Anonymousreply 70October 22, 2022 2:01 PM

Carly Simon was ripped off by a smaller-time Bernie Madoff type.

I think she sold her house in Boston, but still has her "compound" on Martha's Vineyard.

James Taylor ended up being far richer than Carly because he tours all the time and she does not.

by Anonymousreply 71October 22, 2022 2:01 PM

[quote]Her father was the Simon from Simon & Schuster and she grew up in Fieldston in Riverdale, the toniest Jewish neighborhood in the city, so she obviously has money.

She had a very privileged childhood. Big house with famous people visiting.

But her father suffered from depression. And her mother was sleeping with a kid from college who was living in the house.

Carly has said that she didn't inherit much money, although her idea of "much" money may be a bit different that most people's.

by Anonymousreply 72October 22, 2022 2:03 PM

I'm surprised no one posted this:

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by Anonymousreply 73October 22, 2022 2:04 PM

Janet Jackson sampled You're So Vain, which probably netted Carly a lot of money in the late 1990s.

by Anonymousreply 74October 22, 2022 2:06 PM

R74 Janet Jackson didn't sample the song. Carly re-recorded parts of it for her to use, to avoid paying her former record label.

It wasn't a good experience for Carly. When P Diddy was hired to produce the single, he brought in Missy Elliot and cut almost all of Carly's parts out.

It was a shitty song anyway. Ha ha. Ho Ho. Thought you'd get the money too. Greedy motherfuckers want their cake and eat it too.

by Anonymousreply 75October 22, 2022 2:12 PM

It's sad to say but I wouldn't be so surprised to see Carly's obit soon.

by Anonymousreply 76October 22, 2022 2:13 PM

Well, death does come in threes.

by Anonymousreply 77October 22, 2022 2:23 PM

[quote] Isn't Carly crying poverty these days?

I haven't heard that but she could sell her catalog for $$$$. She'll never, ever be broke.

by Anonymousreply 78October 22, 2022 2:29 PM

@r61, her mother doesn't appear to have mixed ancestry, she looks like Katherine Hepburn. Carly must be what is known as a "throwback" baby.

In her early days, Carly was so striking on stage. Great physique...and those legs. Never understood her performance anxiety. Her sisters had lovely voices but she was the whole package. And she always pulled the hottest c*ck. Joni probably still hates her for marrying that beautiful young heroin addict, James Taylor.

by Anonymousreply 79October 22, 2022 2:39 PM

Carly Simon was my baby sitter when she was at Sarah Lawrence. Family connection. All I really remember about her was that she was tremendous. Not in the Patsy Stone way. She towered over not just me, of course, but my parents too.

by Anonymousreply 80October 22, 2022 2:40 PM

This happened to my mother in 1990. She’s one of 5 siblings - 2 men and 3 women. One of her sisters died kind of suddenly. My mom and I were with her when she died as her children didn’t get there on time. She was 61. My mom contacted her other siblings, but no one could reach her one brother. Her other sister and her husband (my aunt and uncle) drove to his home where he lived alone. This was a distance away. No one answered the door. They went around to the back of the house and could see through the windows that he was sitting in an armchair in his underwear. He’d been reading the newspaper and had a heart attack. He was 60. I can still remember my mother getting off the phone with her sister and screaming, “Keith’s dead, too!”

My mom (and dad) is the only one left on her side of the family. All of her siblings and spouses have died.

by Anonymousreply 81October 22, 2022 4:01 PM

Carly Simon is going to be inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in November 2022.

by Anonymousreply 82October 22, 2022 4:03 PM

Eunice Kennedy Shriver died two weeks before her brother Ted.

Lynn Redgrave died less than a month after her brother Colin.

by Anonymousreply 83October 22, 2022 4:05 PM

Carly is 77 years old.

Her ex-husband, Jim Hart, was a closeted homosexual.

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by Anonymousreply 84October 22, 2022 4:16 PM

Carly was raped at 7 by a teenaged boy. He asked her to perform oral on him due to her big mouth and she did.

by Anonymousreply 85October 22, 2022 4:33 PM

R83 Margot and Anne Frank died within days of each other too.

by Anonymousreply 86October 22, 2022 4:33 PM

Why do the nasty rumors keep going around about CS sucking off BT???

Is it because BT looks so much like his dad??

by Anonymousreply 87October 22, 2022 5:17 PM

Very sorry for her X

by Anonymousreply 88October 22, 2022 5:52 PM

[quote] Is 10% "significant"?! I wouldn't say so

Uh, yeah, having a great grandparent of any culture/race would be a relatively significant contribution to one's DNA.

I'm not trying to address America's issues with race or defining who is or is not "white." (R58 addresses that better than I could.) But as a somewhat budding genealogist....generally speaking, a great grandparent's contribution is pretty significant.

I believe I read an article that the most common occurrence with white people in America who find any sort of DNA from indigenous people or any brown/black ancestors is that they see somewhere under 2 percent in their results, which generally means it was well over 5 generations ago. We were told so many times when I was young that we had Native American ancestors but thus far we have *zero* DNA matches on that, and a small amount (<1 percent) of Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry.

by Anonymousreply 89October 22, 2022 6:52 PM

I might flash my pussy on November 5th.

by Anonymousreply 90October 22, 2022 8:09 PM

Great video R61. They were a very talented family. Carly was the most famous but her sisters had superior vocal talent based on the clips posted in this thread.

It's weird that Carly is just now being inducted into the RRHOF in 2022. Better late than never I guess, but what the hell took them so long?

by Anonymousreply 91October 22, 2022 8:53 PM

[quote]but her sisters had superior vocal talent

But Carly has a signature *sound*, r91.

by Anonymousreply 92October 22, 2022 9:19 PM

Carly tells the story about how she put her foot in her mouth with her great friend Jackie O. They used to go to matinee movies, with Carly making the arrangements. When Oliver Stone’s (egregious) JFK was showing, Carly made a big point about scouting locations that weren’t featuring the movie or having posters advertising it. She successfully found a JFK-free venue, but when they settled in the theater for their agreed-upon movie, she unthinkingly asked Jackie if she had seen JFK!

by Anonymousreply 93October 22, 2022 9:19 PM

[quote]Carly was the most famous but her sisters had superior vocal talent based on the clips posted in this thread.

Carly's sisters' voices are far more generic. Carly's voice is very distinctive, which is why she is the more famous singer. (Also because she was a far better songwriter than Lucy.)

by Anonymousreply 94October 22, 2022 9:20 PM

I can’t wrap my mind around the fact that Carly is in her 80s. Time really does fly by.

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by Anonymousreply 95October 23, 2022 1:11 AM

“I am filled with sorrow to speak about the passing of Joanna and Lucy Simon. Their loss will be long and haunting,” Simon said in a statement to CNN.

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by Anonymousreply 96October 23, 2022 1:15 AM

[quote]I can’t wrap my mind around the fact that Carly is in her 80s.

She's actually 77.

by Anonymousreply 97October 23, 2022 1:17 AM

"Like a River", not one of Carly's hits, but one of her most poignant songs.

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by Anonymousreply 98October 23, 2022 1:34 AM

My introduction to Carly was when my older brother brought home this album...

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by Anonymousreply 99October 23, 2022 1:53 AM

Terribly sad. Fuck cancer.

by Anonymousreply 100October 23, 2022 2:12 AM

They lived long incredible lives. They were lucky.

by Anonymousreply 101October 23, 2022 2:30 AM

Per Carly’s ancestry: when I first saw her back in the Seventies I thought she was one of the Ronettes.

by Anonymousreply 102October 23, 2022 2:34 AM

These sisters are aging like milk.

by Anonymousreply 103October 23, 2022 2:38 AM

And expiring like it too!

by Anonymousreply 104October 23, 2022 2:38 AM

[quote] You Joni-Mitchell-Loving Cunt

*shakes R97*

THAT'S A REAL SINGER UP THERE, BITCH!

by Anonymousreply 105October 23, 2022 3:00 AM

Thanks to whoever posted the Jim Hart book bit above. I just borrowed the e book from my library....fascinating read thus far.

by Anonymousreply 106October 23, 2022 3:03 AM

Ms. Magazine, with Joanna looking like Renee Taylor.

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by Anonymousreply 107October 23, 2022 3:11 AM

Damn. Carly has morphed into Monique Van Vooren..

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by Anonymousreply 108October 23, 2022 3:14 AM

He has his daddy's eyes.

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by Anonymousreply 109October 23, 2022 3:21 AM

[quote] They’re both very striking in OP, possibly more so than Carly.

Carly was considered the "gawky, stutterer" in the family, the 'leftover sister." Both of her sisters outshined her. The writer Sloan Wilson, who was a frequent visitor at her parents home said in a memor that c all the Simon women extremely attractive, except Carly, which "crushed her." That ironic, since Carly Simon was always promoted as sex symbol, singing songs about all the lovers she had and posing for album covers in lingerie.

by Anonymousreply 110October 23, 2022 3:21 AM

R108 It's so odd to me that people who are aging pretend to be surprised by other people again. It's so stupid. And juvenile.

by Anonymousreply 111October 23, 2022 3:22 AM

Mother Simon looked like a handsome Eleanor Roosevelt. Carly was not an unfortunate looking girl. What was this Sloane Wilson smoking?

by Anonymousreply 112October 23, 2022 3:24 AM

[quote]Carly was considered the "gawky, stutterer" in the family, the 'leftover sister." Both of her sisters outshined her.

Maybe as children. But as adults, Carly far outshone her sisters. Most people probably don't even know who the hell Lucy Simon and Joanne Simon are, but they know Carly.

by Anonymousreply 113October 23, 2022 3:24 AM

[Quote] It's so odd to me that people who are aging pretend to be surprised by other people again. It's so stupid. And juvenile.

Multiple facelifts is not "aging," dear.

by Anonymousreply 114October 23, 2022 3:24 AM

[quote]Multiple facelifts is not "aging," dear.

You are damned if you do and damned if you don't with you stupid cunts, who fear mirrors.

by Anonymousreply 115October 23, 2022 3:26 AM

Well, Carly clearly fears mirrors...

by Anonymousreply 116October 23, 2022 3:28 AM

I've always felt that Carly Simon doesn't get enough credit.

Yes, Joni Mitchell wrote better lyrics, but Carly wrote far better melodies. And wrote much better lyrics than Carole King.

She was the better-rounded songwriter than either.

by Anonymousreply 117October 23, 2022 3:29 AM

Carly wrote very few good melodies.

by Anonymousreply 118October 23, 2022 3:30 AM

more Secret Garden

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by Anonymousreply 119October 23, 2022 3:31 AM

I thought it was interesting that Carly Simon wrote the song "Hello Big Man" about her parent's perfect marriage.

Years later, she told the truth about that marriage in Vanity Fair, about how her mother kept a young lover in the house.

Apparently, her sisters were furious with Carly for telling the truth.

I always admired Carly for finally being honest. It seemed like a much more healthy thing to do.

by Anonymousreply 120October 23, 2022 3:33 AM

[quote]Carly wrote very few good melodies.

You need a hearing aid, you dreadful piece of shit.

by Anonymousreply 121October 23, 2022 3:34 AM

Because of how sad this news is, I went back and listened to some Carly Simon songs on Apple Music tonight.

I was surprised at how good her 2000 album "The Bedroom Tapes" was.

And her 1981 version of "I Get Along Without You Very Well" is heartbreaking.

by Anonymousreply 122October 23, 2022 3:40 AM

Pretty rough time for Carly- I’m 69 and have sibs close in age and I can assure you that it would not be easy to lose two days apart- especially since I love them as I know Carly did her sisters. I have always loved her music and distinctive alto voice.

by Anonymousreply 123October 23, 2022 3:44 AM

The girl could do earworms...

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by Anonymousreply 124October 23, 2022 3:48 AM

Honest with whom, though? Her therapst? Her close friends? Or... publications that can give her relevance a bump....?

by Anonymousreply 125October 23, 2022 3:50 AM

Carly Simon was okay I've liked several of her songs over the decades, I'm old now. Carly's singing and songwriting is nothing next to Joni Mitchell's or even Carole King's. I've been buying Joni Mitchell's work in every new musical recording platform since I had the original vinyl, same thing for Carole King but only with Tapestry. I've also bought James Taylor's music every time there was a new platform.

Carly's okay but she's not the equal of Joni, Carole and her former husband, James.

Why does James hate Carly so much, anyway? I heard some story about how he wouldn't even allow Carly into his house to use the bathroom at one of their kid's weddings (or something like that).

by Anonymousreply 126October 23, 2022 3:52 AM

[quote]Carly's okay but she's not the equal of Joni, Carole and her former husband, James.

Carly wrote far better music than Joni and far better lyrics than Carole or James.

Joni Mitchell's lyrics are genius, but most of Joni Mitchell's music is dull and most of Carole King's lyrics are childish and completely unsophisticated.

by Anonymousreply 127October 23, 2022 3:57 AM

[Quote] Carly wrote far better music than Joni

You can keep typing that but it won't become true.

by Anonymousreply 128October 23, 2022 4:03 AM

[Quote] Why does James hate Carly so much, anyway? I heard some story about how he wouldn't even allow Carly into his house to use the bathroom at one of their kid's weddings (or something like that).

Yes, Carly has told that story to the press. That should give you an indication as to why James Taylor has little to do with Carly. Why give someone the time of day when they'll spin it into a story for their public?

by Anonymousreply 129October 23, 2022 4:04 AM

Carly's music and lyrics have never been anywhere near the depth and beauty of Joni Mitchell's, are you crazy?

by Anonymousreply 130October 23, 2022 4:07 AM

[quote]Carly's music and lyrics have never been anywhere near the depth and beauty of Joni Mitchell's, are you crazy?

You Joni lesbian Musicfest fans are adorable!

by Anonymousreply 131October 23, 2022 4:09 AM

I saw Joni Mitchell in concert. I think she is a genius.

But I was bored by how every song sounded the same. And so was the rest of the audience, who told her to get off the stage so Bob Dylan could start. She did not respond well. (I don't blame her, as the audience was very rude.)

I left when Bob Dylan came on because I can't stand his voice.

I love Joni but was disappointed at how dull she was. I realized that she does not have a knack for a melody.

by Anonymousreply 132October 23, 2022 4:13 AM

From one concert?! What a dolt.

by Anonymousreply 133October 23, 2022 4:16 AM

That's really rough. Two siblings dying a day apart. RIP and condolences to Carly and family.

by Anonymousreply 134October 23, 2022 4:17 AM

Has James Taylor commented?

by Anonymousreply 135October 23, 2022 4:18 AM

[quote]Has James Taylor commented?

That cunt has been laughing all day.

by Anonymousreply 136October 23, 2022 4:21 AM

I cosign R117. I really like Joni's music. Her lyrics and chord structure are more intricate and complex. But as others have stated, the music isn't as accessible as Carly's.

I respect Carole King's accomplishments. Since her teens, she's been writing songs that have become part of the Great American Songbook. Her album Tapestry is one of the best-selling albums of all time. But except for a song or two, I find her music dull as dishwater.

Carly's discography is the one that stirs my soul the most. MARY!!! Of the three of them, I think she is best at fusing haunting melodies with thoughtful lyrics. I realize it all comes down to personal taste though.

by Anonymousreply 137October 23, 2022 5:26 AM

One of my favorites of her songs....Let The River Run. When I hear it, I sing to it loud...and have to hear it again. It's an uplifting song....great in the opening of Working Girl, showing Manhattan.

by Anonymousreply 138October 23, 2022 5:32 AM

R95 she’s 77

by Anonymousreply 139October 23, 2022 11:54 AM

Carly was looking pretty frail a while back. I hope she doesn’t make this a trifecta anytime soon.

I’ve always thought how awkward it must have been when James and Carly were both living on Martha’s Vineyard after their divorce, given how James apparently hates her. It’s a small island so they’d be bound to run into each other and their different circles of friends. I think Carly lives there full time. James lives in Western Mass, I think.

by Anonymousreply 140October 23, 2022 2:58 PM

For a long time I hated James Taylor and felt he was a real asshole.

But the more I read about Carly the more I'm not so sure he was the asshole in that scenario.

They seemed to go well together when James was an addict, since their neurotic selves needed each other. But I think as much as Carly talks about James in her book, she doesn't spell out what she was doing (fucking other men as if it was an open relationship) and I think between the fucking around and Carly's bottomless well of need, James probably just "had it" at some point and walked away. And probably recognized staying away was key to his sobriety.

I still think he's a huge cunt (he mistreated Joni) but I'm not so sure it's black and white with James and Carly.

by Anonymousreply 141October 23, 2022 8:54 PM

She’s 79 cunt at R97

by Anonymousreply 142October 23, 2022 9:02 PM

[quote] Carly wrote far better music than Joni and far better lyrics than Carole or James.

NO. That is simply not true. You're just a smitten fangurl who loves everything that Carly Simon does. But the fact is that Joni Mitchell, Carole King and James Taylor are all musically superior to Carly Simon.

by Anonymousreply 143October 23, 2022 10:13 PM

You don’t know that twat r142 it’s nothing but an unverified rumor.

by Anonymousreply 144October 24, 2022 12:19 AM

R143 go get back inside your casket.

by Anonymousreply 145October 24, 2022 12:20 AM

I've gone down a rabbit hole of Simon Sisters videos on YouTube.

They were so sublimely talented. We are lucky they shared their gifts with us.

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by Anonymousreply 146October 24, 2022 3:23 AM

Carly wrote that she went through a phase where she was tempted to sleep with new boys that she liked too soon,

because she felt that otherwise they would fall for her sister Lucy when they met her

by Anonymousreply 147October 24, 2022 3:31 AM

[quote] They were so sublimely talented. We are lucky they shared their gifts with us.'

Shut up, Carly.

by Anonymousreply 148October 24, 2022 3:32 AM

Lucy was indeed gorgeous. As was Joanna.

by Anonymousreply 149October 24, 2022 3:32 AM

Joanna singing Moon River

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by Anonymousreply 150October 24, 2022 3:46 AM

Damnit, wrong video.

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by Anonymousreply 151October 24, 2022 3:48 AM

How did they not give the Lennon Sisters a run for the money?

by Anonymousreply 152October 24, 2022 3:58 AM

They wouldn't play footsie with Welk, r152.

by Anonymousreply 153October 24, 2022 4:04 AM

Carly made the right decision to ditch the lesser talented Lucy.

That folk music shit is beyond awful.

by Anonymousreply 154October 24, 2022 5:18 AM

I thought Carly's memoir was extremely well written. That did not surprise me as Carly has a way with words.

What did surprise me is that Carly showed no insight into how being molested as a child (by an older boy having her suck his cock as a child) may have affected her as an adult, causing her to use sex as currency with almost every man she encountered in the music industry.

It seemed that that vital insight was totally lost on her.

by Anonymousreply 155October 24, 2022 5:22 AM

R151 That video makes Carly and her sister seem like they are two generations apart, rather than just a few years apart.

Carly was so of her time her sister was so old-fashioned.

by Anonymousreply 156October 24, 2022 5:32 AM

I've known Carly Simon over the years, although we are not close.

She is very bright, insightful, and witty. She has an amazing vocabulary.

Anyone would be lucky to have her as a friend.

by Anonymousreply 157October 24, 2022 5:36 AM

Why should she have that "insight" about her childhood molestation? She hasn't exactly done badly out of sex.

by Anonymousreply 158October 24, 2022 5:39 AM

[quote]She hasn't exactly done badly out of sex.

You sound like an idiot. The last thing people who were molested as children have to worry about is being sexually used as an adult.

Even Carly said that the way Warren Beatty and Jack Nickolson passed her around she felt like "a piece of meat."

by Anonymousreply 159October 24, 2022 5:51 AM

Much love and appreciation and condolences to Carly Simon in this time of grief, heartbreak and sorrow. I always enjoyed her music over the years, and losing loved ones is inevitable, we all die, but the overwhelming pain lingers, it still hurts. A great big warm bear hug to you, Carly. :-)

by Anonymousreply 160October 24, 2022 6:08 AM

Carly issued a very thoughtful and well-written statement about her sisters' deaths.

It made me realize that while their joint deaths were a surprise to us, they were something that she had had time to prepare for.

It also comforted me to know that Carly was coping with this horrible loss in a dignified and appropriate manner. I was worried that she would be at a total loss.

by Anonymousreply 161October 24, 2022 6:13 AM

[Quote] Even Carly said that the way Warren Beatty and Jack Nickolson passed her around she felt like "a piece of meat."

And you thing for that to happen, childhood molestation needed to be in her history? You sound like an idiot.

by Anonymousreply 162October 24, 2022 8:14 AM

R162 No, clearly, you are the idiot. I was speaking to Carly's use of sex in general, not with just those two people.

by Anonymousreply 163October 24, 2022 2:33 PM

Some victims of molestation become hypersexual as a reaction to the abuse.

by Anonymousreply 164October 24, 2022 2:39 PM

The parallels between Carly and Dusty Springfield's career just struck me.

Both had some success early on in a more folkish vein in a band with their sibling. For Dusty it was The Springfields with brother Tom, for Carly it was the Simon Sisters with sister Lucy.

Both had that sort of inoffensive folk sound (hell, the Simon Sisters had an album of children's music).

Carly and Dusty would both become more notable as solo artists - Dusty in the 60s, Carly in the 70s.

by Anonymousreply 165October 24, 2022 2:40 PM

Will the Pet Shop boys be working with Carly to revive her career soon too?

by Anonymousreply 166October 24, 2022 2:41 PM

[Quote] No, clearly, you are the idiot. I was speaking to Carly's use of sex in general, not with just those two people.

No. You're the idiot. You're making shallow connections.

by Anonymousreply 167October 24, 2022 4:54 PM

[quote]No, clearly, you are the idiot.

[quote]No. You're the idiot.

You're both high double digits, IQ-wise. STFU both of you.

by Anonymousreply 168October 24, 2022 4:57 PM

But Carly needs to know that her molestation is the root of her use of sex! A Datalounger has put the pieces of Carly together!

by Anonymousreply 169October 24, 2022 5:00 PM

[quote]No, clearly, you are the idiot.

[quote]No. You're the idiot.

Girls, girls! You're both idiots!

by Anonymousreply 170October 24, 2022 5:18 PM

Yes. How dare she enjoy sex!

by Anonymousreply 171October 24, 2022 8:06 PM

Some of you are so willfully obtuse.

I got the impression from Carly's memoir that she did enjoy sex, but she also was constantly allowing men to use her.

And she didn't seem to get how fucked up it was for a young man to want blow jobs from a 7-year-old. [Cue Bryan Singer joke]

by Anonymousreply 172October 24, 2022 9:07 PM

People can use you without sex. Some of you are obsessed with molestation. "I was moleste!" is not a personality trait, Lorna!

by Anonymousreply 173October 24, 2022 9:14 PM

[Quote] And she didn't seem to get how fucked up it was for a young man to want blow jobs from a 7-year-old. [Cue Bryan Singer joke]

You do realize that some people will lose it if they confront certain things....? It can actually be easier to NOT think of yourself as a victim. And before you start, that does not mean that molestation is no big deal. It means, don't frame other people's personal shit as YOU wish.

by Anonymousreply 174October 24, 2022 9:16 PM

How does Carly feel about Leslie Jordan’s death cutting into the focus on her sister?

by Anonymousreply 175October 24, 2022 9:16 PM

Aside from her luxurious home on the Vineyard, Simon was a financial investor in a number of businesses out there since the 80s. One was a nightclub in Edgartown - Hot Tin Roof - while the other was a gift shop called "Midnight Farm" in Vineyard Haven. Both are gone, but by all accounts she did very well financially with them. I have heard she also had some financial interests in restaurants, and hotels in Edgartown.

by Anonymousreply 176October 24, 2022 9:51 PM

Why hasn’t Dionne Warwick chimed in? That vampire bitch loves to chime in after someone dies.

by Anonymousreply 177October 24, 2022 10:03 PM

Carly Tweeted: "I want to thank all of your for your kind comments about my much-loved, much-missed sharers of my own history. But it's been two whole days now. Can we PLEASE talk about something else?"

by Anonymousreply 178October 25, 2022 12:35 AM

Carly Simon said that she didn't mention her relationship with John Travolta in her memoir because it would be "too much." What the fuck does that mean? I think she just doesn't want to admit that the guy she was fucking was gay. That would be so embarrassing.

by Anonymousreply 179October 25, 2022 12:50 AM

Her second husband of twentysomething years was gay. She probably liked it that way as she could fuck who she liked while always having a "walker."

by Anonymousreply 180October 25, 2022 12:51 AM

[quote]I think she just doesn't want to admit that the guy she was fucking was gay.

I don't think Carly Simon knew John Travolta was gay. (Not so hard to believe as she didn't even know her second husband was gay until he told her in therapy after many years of marriage.)

Years ago, when AOL was still the thing, there was a very active Carly Simon message board. What made it fun was someone would regularly post as "MrsRhale." After a while, the regulars realized it was Carly herself.

I remember there was some discussion about Travolta's sexuality and Carly posted: "On John Travolta, two words: not gay."

I remember at the time thinking, "Sure, girl." But I realized that she really may not have known and assumed that because they fucked he couldn't possibly be gay.

I think she avoided talking about him in her book because it was very embarrassing to James Taylor. And she was really trying to pull her punches with him, lest she make things even worse for her and the kids with him.

by Anonymousreply 181October 25, 2022 1:25 PM

^Allegedly Travolta stood by with her when baby Ben had a kidney failure crisis while Sweet Baby James was AWOL

by Anonymousreply 182October 25, 2022 3:08 PM

R182 He was fucking his WHORE!

by Anonymousreply 183October 25, 2022 3:19 PM

Travolta prefers men. But...

by Anonymousreply 184October 25, 2022 3:24 PM

Mom! My boner won't go away again.....

by Anonymousreply 185October 25, 2022 4:01 PM

^^I’ll make it go away with my mouth

by Anonymousreply 186October 25, 2022 4:09 PM

[quote]^Allegedly Travolta stood by with her when baby Ben had a kidney failure crisis while Sweet Baby James was AWOL

I don't know about Travolta supporting Carly during young Ben's kidney crisis, but James was AWOL.

IIRC, Ben had suffered from a series of high fevers and other symptoms for years, and the doctors weren't able to diagnose the kidney disorder until it became critical.

James was an generally absentee father through all of these medical crisis, and when Ben was finally critically ill and hospitalized James was with his Japanese girlfriend Evelyn and couldn't be reached.

When James was finally notified about his son, he came to the hospital but refused to go up to Ben's room - for reasons which aren't known to me...

by Anonymousreply 187October 29, 2022 4:12 AM

Addicts are always ultimately selfish, so...

by Anonymousreply 188October 29, 2022 4:48 AM

Baby sneezes

Mummy pleases

Daddy breezes in

So good on paper

So romantic

But so bewildering

by Anonymousreply 189October 29, 2022 5:00 AM

[quote]Daddy Has a Monkey on His Back

Fuck that shit, r189.

by Anonymousreply 190October 29, 2022 1:26 PM

Joanna on the Ed Sullivan Show.

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by Anonymousreply 191February 14, 2023 1:42 AM

I think Carly's evil daughter Sally is taking those videos for Insta with Carly clearly out of her mind.

Sally is filing her nails and waiting until the house on the Vineyard--and the publishing rights--are all hers and her loser husband's.

by Anonymousreply 192February 14, 2023 2:16 AM

Did Ben die?

by Anonymousreply 193February 14, 2023 2:17 AM

How brutal and sad for Carly. A real cosmic one-two punch of grief. She must feel like Hell.

I really get it. My sister is my best friend and confidante, the closest person to me in this world that there’ll ever be—more like a twin than a younger sister. It’s been that way since we were kids. I know if something so awful should happen (or when, I guess, since age comes for us all of illness/accident doesn’t), I’d find it very hard to go on without her for long, maybe even impossible.

by Anonymousreply 194February 14, 2023 2:30 AM

I had no idea that one of her sisters was Camilla Parker Bowles. RIP.

by Anonymousreply 195February 14, 2023 2:39 AM

"My Older Sister"

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by Anonymousreply 196February 14, 2023 2:55 AM

[quote] How brutal and sad for Carly. A real cosmic one-two punch of grief. She must feel like Hell.

Maybe not. Judging by that Instagram video, Carly thinks it’s 1949.

by Anonymousreply 197February 14, 2023 3:01 AM

Boys In The Trees and Sisters In The Ground.

by Anonymousreply 198February 14, 2023 3:06 AM
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