PERIPHERAL- New Amazon Prime ScFi show from Westworld Team Based on William Gibson Novel

Jack Reynor is the very attractive Irish actor playing her brother and performing the action sequences within the show.

From Westworld team? Well another Snoozefest 😴

Trans actress, or is it transactress one word?, Alexandra Billings is in this too.

I was gonna skip this, but I saw a clip of Jack Reynor, shirtless with big pink nipples. Let's just say that "I'm in." For now.

What is the name of that girl’s face shape?

I do not like it.

Ugly Scarlett Johansson has the same ant-like head.

Based on buying new frames at the optometrist once and being told I need to buy them based on my face shape I would say heart? That’s the one I couldn’t quite figure out, so when I’m at a loss they all get plopped in there.

She is a critical darling but I just don't care for Moretz as an actress.

Who’s has been critical about her?

If this show is even half as good as the book, we're in for a treat.

However, I doubt it will be.

The male lead is so hot.

Holy shyte Jack is pretty. I strongly dislike Moretz, aka legs from Family Guy. But Jack leaves me all tingly.

And her face shape is dinner plate or bobble head.

I’m critical of her!

She’s ugly and polluting my beautiful mind!

I like the show so far. I didn’t know it was a book, so thank you R9.

I think she’s pretty.

The male lead is attractive but nothing particularly special.

She’s gorgeous, you people are demented.

Is this any good? I’m sort of without anything to watch atm.

Just did a quick google, the guardian says:

[quote] Suffice to say that it is a bravura rendition of Gibson’s tale, told with confidence by people I suspect will keep the plotting tight and the internal logic – whatever that may be – consistent.

I’ll try it.

R13 And THAT'S exactly why he IS particularly special.

Well, that and the big pink nipples r16.

R9 I put the fact that it’s based on a William Gibson novel IN TO THE HEADING! Also, look for clips of Jack speaking in his native Irish accent, that’s a huge draw, and apparently he did full frontal in a foreign movie as well.

It's a great book, r13. I've read the sequel, which had interesting ideas, but wasn't so fun as the first. Gibson is a great world builder, though, and he can write.

I agree r19, and so far this is a pretty wonderful adaptation.

Now if they would only adapt Neal Stephenson's "Anathem".

Honestly, I had thought William Gibson long dead and of the same generation as Philip K. Dick, imagine my surprise.

I watched after seeing TROP finale, and was very surprised at how it held my attention. The trailer was pure shit and a disservice to the show.

[quote][R9] I put the fact that it’s based on a William Gibson novel IN TO THE HEADING!

Well, first things first. Oh, dear.

And, what part of the statement "If this show is even half as good as the book, we're in for a treat" contradicts the idea that you put that it's based on a novel IN TO THE HEADING.

Jack Reynor is fucking beautiful in this, but if you google him and look at pics, he's been damn ugly in the past.

Kinda like Chris Pratt in a way... he's been a total schlub before he got "hot" for Jurassic World and Guardians of the Galaxy.

So damn hot now though. Hope he has more nude scenes...

But so far I'm digging the show. Episode 1 was very good, and episode two was decent as well. I'm liking it. It's not dull or pretentious.

Jack Reynor did a full frontal scene for a move a few years ago. LPSG has the photos and videos.

Not impressive. But maybe it's better when it's hard, who knows. And this was apparently during one of his pasty/doughy periods.

Can't stand that Chloe clown so this is a hard pass for me.

Reynor naked in Midsommar.

My apologies to r27. Completely missed the link you provided.

R27 In what universe is that pasty and doughy?

There was scene in that movie where an old lady was pushing his ass while he was fucking a girl. She must have a perfect view of his hairy asshole.

I watched the Carrie remake with Moretz and was very unimpressed. Cute girl, terrible actress.

In this universe R27. You need to have your cataracts fixed. That pic is a pasty doughy micro peen Irishman. Bone killer.

R25 is totally right.

R27 actually makes me respect him more as an actor. He is willing to humiliate himself for his craft. Props

If I looked like that, I wouldn’t get naked at home in private. I’d do the towel dance or I’d cover the mirrors like shiva.

She’s not a terrible actress by any stretch. She was just completely miscast as wallflower Carrie.

^^ she was perfectly cast in Family Guy

R5 the name for her face shape is whatever you call a shape that makes you want to punch it.

The Irishman is so-so but I’d totally bend over for him just so he would talk dirty to me with that fuck me Irish accent.

[quote]Kinda like Chris Pratt in a way... he's been a total schlub before he got "hot" for Jurassic World and Guardians of the Galaxy.

Agreed. He looks like a doughy Chris Pratt - which is something, given how doughy Pratt is, except when he got ripped to land the Guardians role for the first outing - I mean, they've had to insert jokes about him needing to put the sandwich down in the later movies.

Episode 3 is up.

First two sodes were excellent. Lots of action.

The bees scene was fiendishly evil.

Those of you who are fans of William Gibson and Neal Stephenson, can you recommend similar writers. I’ve read most of their novels and truly enjoy their style

I'm also a fan of both r43. Don't know of anyone quite at their level, but I am currently reading and very much enjoying "The 22 Murders of Madison May".

R43 - check out Ursula K. Le Guin, Octavia E. Butler, Tanith Lee to start. Any Ray Bradbury work is classic as is Phillip K. Dick's writings, in particular, Valis by PKD.

I'd actually go with

Margaret Atwood - try Oryx and Crake.

Cixin Liu - The Three Body Problem

Alistair Reynolds - Revelation Space novels

Peter F Hamilton - Pandora’s Star and Judas Unchained

Iain Banks - Consider Phlebas

r45 and r46 - Those are all undeniably fine writers of science fiction, but none of them are in the subgenre of Gibson or Stephenson.

I'm shocked this many people think he's doughy and should be embarrassed. Then I remember where I am and that most people commenting probably look like Kevin from the Office. But with more hair.

[quote][R45] and [R46] - Those are all undeniably fine writers of science fiction, but none of them are in the subgenre of Gibson or Stephenson.

I don't disagree as Gibson and Stephenson both write in a very unique subgenre of science fiction. Kim Stanley Robinson might work if you feel those are too different. Malka Older's Infomacracy books might work, as well.

Of course, if you just want straight cyberpunk, Pat Cadigan and Bruce Sterling may be worth a peek.

Thanks r49. I will look into those four writers.

Appreciate the tip.

Episode 3 is boring. We need more shirtless Jack Reynor.

It wasn't boring, it was rather intense. The black woman's introduction as the simmering evil was really well done... she is TERRIFYING. Some more good world-building too. The simmering tension between the brother and the old guy at the table, the whole carrot and stick discussion... that was really well done.

I'm loving this show. A lot.

It's a mishmash of ideas that are now not unusual in 2022. I'm not interested in the black big bad bee bitch , and the crappy southern accents and the terrible dialogue are putting me off the whole enterprise. I love the opening credits visuals.

I like the songs they're using: London Calling, Outlaw State of Mind, Sleeping on the Blacktop.

Pickett is so vicious, I wouldn't be amazed if his crew mutinied.

(just rolling eyes at R53)

I saw her in “The Clouds of Silas Maria” in a nothing part. I think she’s good in this but I don’t think the role is very demanding dramatically.

Why are there so many stupid accents in this show?

I'm waiting until ALL episodes have been dumped.

Y'know...Not to sound like my parents, BUT I signed up for streaming so I can watch things that are exclusive and available whenever the FUCK I want to. This one episode a week is some BULLSHIT.

Episode 5, What about Bob? has dropped.

Binging kills momentum for brand new shows. It results in less word of mouth buzz.

Binging is ok for finished shows or previous seasons of a show still releasing new seasons.

It's like with DL where popular shows get separate threads for each new episode (Game of Thrones, The Gilded Age, for example). You don't get that with a new show releasing, or dumping, an entire season at once. And for a lot of shows I think that's a damn shame. At least reddit tries to get discussions going by starting threads for each individual episode, but the participation is usually not that great.

R60 Bullshit

r61, based on what?

Not r61, but based on the fact that it's bullshit.

I prefer to binge series. You don't.

[quote] I prefer to binge series. You don't.

Your preference was never questioned. Read r60 again which is clearly not about what viewers want, but what gives a new show a better chance to find a greater audience.

Nah, I am not gonna read r60 again. I have sufficient.

When it comes to my entertainment consumption, I don't give one single fuck about a show's ability to find a "greater audience". I care about whether or not I enjoy it. And I usually enjoy it in one or two binges.

I like the show but boy are they chatty. Sometimes the dialogue and ideas are unwieldy.

[quote] Nah, I am not gonna read [R60] again. I have sufficient.

[quote] When it comes to my entertainment consumption, I don't give one single fuck about a show's ability to find a "greater audience". I care about whether or not I enjoy it. And I usually enjoy it in one or two binges.

So, you're one of *those* people who make random posts about themself? Got it. Dismissing your rambling from now on.

So, you're one of *those* people who make random posts "canon" and thinks he understands how the entertainment industry works?

About to watch ep 4 & 5. Can we look forward to any gay male content? Anyone know without spoiling the story? Not that it’s required, but it would be interesting to know.

I hope someone ends up sucking off the hot brother, or maybe he’s secretly fucking one of his haptic-enabled battle bros.

I guess there’s hope for Wilf as well, since he told Flynne that their romantic tension was fake haha. But he’s obsessed with the missing lady, so maybe not.

This show is already forgotten. Expensive to produce. Will be canceled just like Westworld. Lisa Joy and Nolan are out of a job.

[quote]'m waiting until ALL episodes have been dumped.

For me, it's part wanting to binge the entire thing and not have to wait for episodes to drop.

However, the biggest part is that it's such a waste of time to expend time and effort on shows which might or might not get a second season. I despise when you become invested in a show that doesn't get a second season, but ends with a bunch of mysteries. I usually wait to see if the first season was well-received and if the show gets picked up for a second season before committing.

However, on a show like Westworld whose second season was terrible, I can walk away without too much angst.

Why is this creative team always obsessed with filming wet streets?

[quote]Why is this creative team always obsessed with filming wet streets?

Answer: you've erroneously inserted the word "creative" in this sentence.

New London is damn beautiful. But I kinda feel like it’s actually a game because of the way Flynne had to solve something a few episodes ago. Like the point of the game is that it’s immersive…and you have to defend yourself from real-life assassins. Maybe.

The bridge sequence was quite good, nice, tight and well done.

I'm reading the book presently

So far it's pretty good. I love scifi shows but get turned off by ridiculous plots. So far they are giving us a slow look into New London, with just enough flashbacks each episode. They didn't reveal the purpose of those enormous sculptures in New London until the 3rd or 4th episode. Also love that this is set with the "present" 15 years from now, so there's a lot that looks familiar to us, but also some new/ future tech in use.

During the summer, I read Gibson’s IDORU, and while completely batshit and kind of misogynistic, it was shockingly prescient about things like fandom culture, social media connectivity, and deepfake/AI tech. It was written in the early 90s, but references things becoming normal in our time. Creepy.

R66 that’s William Gibson’s style. He writes potboilers, often with overly-loquacious whipsmart characters who always have a comeback ready or a thought to share.

God, R65 is a tedious moron with zero reading comprehension. Going on the ignore list. What a fucking prat.

I've loved each episode so far. Will watch the new episode tonight.

what a pretty thing

This episode was one of the best, tight, not overly long, kept moving the plot forward, lots of action and beautifully shot.

I agree that this last episode was better.

[quote] I like the songs they're using: London Calling, Outlaw State of Mind, Sleeping on the Blacktop.

Well, it is CyberPUNK, after all.

I want an invisible car.

[quote]They didn't reveal the purpose of those enormous sculptures in New London until the 3rd or 4th episode.

What ARE those things?

Help me, Datalounge; only you will understand. Is anyone annoyed Flynne usually speaks with poor grammar, but then she uses the subjunctive correctly.?

Flynne clearly is a DL poster

R80 Why would you think ANYONE cares that you're putting them on ignore? Are you 12?

The RI and Klept villains chew the scenery, but it’s fun.

It’s really nothing special. Why is there still an audience for these dystopian, woman in peril serials?

Jack is so cute. I want to lick his face.

Quite fuckable:

he's got a very neutral accent

R92, whatever. It's pretty special in my opinion. I love the world-building, I love the juxtaposition of the slightly future rural south carolina setting with the ultra futuristic future (and the way that future is basically rising from the ashes of a great disaster). There's a lot of mystery, and it's revealing it all at a steady pace, keeping you involved. Great characters, interesting, with depth to them. And while I'm not a fan of scenery chewing in general, the evil lady does an amazing job at it. It's entertaining, it keeps you guessing, it's well written, and well acted.

I’m still reading the book, maybe I’ll watch

Dr. Deedee's accent annoyed me. Do people in North Carolina really pronounce anything as ennything?

Also, if any tabletop queens are reading, did anyone recognize Lev Zubov's breakfast china? My first thought was Wedgwood Colonnade Black, but that's not it. You can get a good look at 2:03.

I love the feeling of it

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The book reads like a brilliant script for a tv program so I’m not surprised it has now been televised. Lots and lots of brilliant imagery and fascinating looking characters.

New episode is up

Exciting news

This week's episode was more talky than normal. But I love that British Inspector. That amount of confidence is terrifying.

The Inspector's a sassy one! Alexandra Billings:

I don’t understand, in a barely populated future world with extensive robots for servants why would a highly skilled technician and his wife be running a traditional butcher shop in future London? Who would even be going there to purchase meat, wouldn’t everything be delivered from warehouses?

Didn't realize that he has an accent.

R108, in some great stunt casting she’s trans. And having just finished the book (spoiler) the character in the book is too.

R111 I don’t think you understand the concept of stunt casting. If it was RuPaul or Caitlyn Jenner, yes, Alexandra is not that well known and barely a working actress.

stunt casting in that they casta a real trans actress for a real trans role.

R113 Yeah, no, that’s not it either. The backlash in this day and age would have been swift if they didn’t.

possibly, but I think they did a wonderful job in casting her. the book makes her seem invincible yet inscrutable.

Absolutely r115. She is perfect in the role.

[quote]Alexandra is not that well known and barely a working actress.

She's recurring on The Conners, she was a regular on Transparent, she regularly shows up in guest shots ... I'd say she's the definition of a working actress. I like her but her accent on Peripheral is pretty dicey.

it sounds stagey, which honesty works

I enjoyed Lev's freakout when he hears the police are at the door. He didn't like Cherise, but he held his own. Lowbeer scares the bejesus out of him.

Jack Reynor was in a weird series called Strange Angel and he was pudgy and plain-looking then. I was surprised to see how fit he's become , it really enhances his attractiveness. He must have worked out strenuously with nutritionists and sports trainers.

Btw, every time I see him onscreen, he was a Southern American accent - which he does great and he comes off as an American. It always surprises me to hear his real Irish accent.

I find this show confusing as fuck.

Read the book, it’s even more so

Yes, he was sorta cute in 'Strange Angel' in a retro hunk way, but I disliked the show's cult munbo-jumbo, and didn't it get cancelled before concluding or was the second season 'done?'

He's much more handsome now.

He’s super handsome

So, Jack pulled a Chris Pratt, hopefully he doesn’t become right wing and Churchy.

how?

Ugh, I’ve followed this show up until now, but I’m lost in all the contrivances of what’s going on in London. Read one recap, but it didn’t even touch on the plot mechanizations there. I did love Tommy getting some meaty couple of scenes and some agency though.

Moretz is a lez so I like her. I might give this a try.

This isn’t going to be renewed.

R129 Exactly how over budget did season one go?

Tommy’s dim, sexy self is coming into his own nicely. I would guess he and his Dr wife are going to join the team now. It would be messy if he becomes a new romantic distraction for Flynne tho lol; she needs to focus. Also, low key, I kind of want Burton to also be in love with Connor and that be a source of tension between the siblings. It would be messy, but fun.

I think Flynne is in love with Wilf.

I really love Katie Leung.

They finally revealed why they want to kill Flynn and her brother. Why did it have to take so damn long? We were led to believe it was because they were the last person who saw Wilf's sister which was a weak premise. So all this this has to do with bacteria containing secrets that they implanted in Flynn's brain. At least that's what I get and this makes better sense.

I’m enjoying this show - it defintely has Westworld vibes. Louis Herthum (Peter Abernathy) is great.

The guy who plays Wilf is hot and so is Zev.

Cherise and Lowbeer are great characters. I think I could watch a show about Lowbeer - what a great face!

Was yesterday’s episode the finale? I hope not!

Sorry, meant to point out Herthum was Abernathy on Westworld.

One more episode r134.

Also enjoying it a lot. Just enough different from the book to keep my interest.

There currently two books available: The Peripheral and Agency.

Agency took a while to write because he assumed that Hillary would win in 2016 with a Trump ruled America as that book's stub. Needless to say, that required MAJOR rewrites.

The third in the trilogy, Jackpot, is not yet completed.

Does season 1 cover the whole first book? Or is season 2 going to continue the first book's plot?

I really hope there's a season 2. I'm loving everything about this show.

Well, the plot of the book is different from the series. It is the setting and most of the characters that are the same.

I agree completely with this review, the end was very much a whimper and not a bang. It didn’t help that I had no recognition of the actress or the character Alieta and didn’t know who she was until reading recaps, I thought she was a completely new character. They should have done a better job threading her through the series and keeping her recognition prominent and the idea that she might be alive, that’s definitely impacted how I perceived the end. And I guess there was after credits footage I missed as well. Who stays until the end of credits on streaming? Despite all this I do hope it gets another season.

I knew who she was (or rather, remembered).

But time travel is confusing, and I'm less than clear about what actually happened there at the end.

I'll have to read a re-cap.

But still, I did very much enjoy the series even if the finale didn't quite pay off for me. Love all the characters.

By splitting off another stub she created a new reality where she has all the knowledge and information she had at the point she split it off but, from the outside to the RI and other players in this future, it is just one simulation among who knows how many. Without knowing *which* simulation is the one with the data they want they are on the back foot until they either figure it out or nuke all of them.

Because Flynne dies in her ‘home’ stub the RI no longer has any reason to waste their energy, and sacrifice whatever experiments they were using it for, to try and scrub or reclaim their data. It’s already gone. Thus that version of her friends and family will mourn her but otherwise survive.

The Flynne we then see is the one from the new stub which, to her, is the exact same up until the point where she made - but before she enacted - the plan to split the stub. So she knows what she was planning to do and then can meet Lowbeer to find out she succeeded and do whatever the next steps will be.

Goodness me! Jack Reynor has a lot of full frontal nudes out there! Very nice...

I haven't read recent posts in this thread, because I'm worried about spoilers. I've just started watching (currently starting episode 3) and I'm hooked already.

I do have a question, though. Is the accent Flynne and Burton is using authentic for Carolina? I'm in love with it. To these British ears, it's incredibly soothing and attractive.

I know this thread is almost dead, and I'm talking to myself, but nevertheless I was pleased to see that season two is a go! I enjoyed the first far more than I expected.

The order has been rescinded, r144, and the series is cancelled. The writer's strikes are being blamed, although some might blame this on selfish producers.

Yeah, going to blame the producers. This is pure spite.

I just remembered this was unceremoniously cancelled after being renewed and now I'm pissed off all over again.

Oh my god, every so often I remember this is canceled and I get upset again!

GODDAMMIT!

Who do we have to write and threaten to get this back into production?

I’m confident there exists a stub where this show continues and Connor slides his big, functional memory stick up into Burton.

The first season of HBO's Westworld was excellent but that may be because Anthony Hopkins was in it. No one plays creepy characters better.

I don't know, r149. If you find out, let me know. I enjoyed this. The guy who played Lev was excellent.