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Caesar's Palace Casino coming to Times Square

Giuliani is spinning in his grave

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by Anonymousreply 102December 5, 2022 8:04 PM

That building is really an eyesore so I hope they fix up the building when they turn it into a hotel.

by Anonymousreply 1October 22, 2022 12:56 AM

[quote]Giuliani is spinning in his grave

If only.

by Anonymousreply 2October 22, 2022 1:06 AM

Should bring in a lot of $

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by Anonymousreply 3October 22, 2022 2:20 AM

Chinatown basically set up their own casino.

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by Anonymousreply 4October 26, 2022 8:11 AM

Imagine the hair dye splatter inside the coffin.

by Anonymousreply 5October 26, 2022 8:16 AM

Casino question came up at the end of the debate last night. Zeldin said probably NO, Hochul said definitely YES.

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by Anonymousreply 6October 26, 2022 5:48 PM

Caesars LV used to have the hotness for us homos by dressing up the valets in skimpy Roman attire. Then they had them dressed in Roman war wear as greeters.

by Anonymousreply 7October 26, 2022 6:00 PM

Don't casinos open up more avenues for organized and other types of criminals to operate or flourish? I have no moral problem with gambling, but does it create more problems that the tax revenue won't necessarily be worthwhile?

by Anonymousreply 8October 26, 2022 6:11 PM

Where will it be, the OP article is behind a pay wall.

by Anonymousreply 9October 26, 2022 6:13 PM

r9 Two different spots in Times Square and one spot in Hudson Yards are competing to win the license.

by Anonymousreply 10October 26, 2022 6:21 PM

r9 Caesar's Palace will be planned for 1515 Broadway.

by Anonymousreply 11October 26, 2022 6:22 PM

Patti warned us.

by Anonymousreply 12October 26, 2022 6:52 PM

The Broadway League opposes a casino. The project may not go forward.

by Anonymousreply 13October 26, 2022 9:19 PM

Didn't they float this a decade or so ago on Roosevelt Island or one of those other small islands?

by Anonymousreply 14October 26, 2022 9:23 PM

Absolute insanity. Come election day, there will be more than a few Democrats not casting a ballot for governor,

by Anonymousreply 15October 26, 2022 9:32 PM

You'd probably have better odds at the slots than you would investing in a Broadway show.

by Anonymousreply 16October 26, 2022 9:46 PM

Actors Equity supports the proposal of a casino. As a gambler myself, I would love it. Not sure about my bank account though. If they had daily poker tournaments, oh my god...

by Anonymousreply 17October 26, 2022 10:18 PM

I'm really up for this.

by Anonymousreply 18October 26, 2022 10:24 PM

NY Post is against it.

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by Anonymousreply 19October 29, 2022 9:12 AM

A true Learning From Las Vegas moment

by Anonymousreply 20October 29, 2022 10:19 AM

[quote]Don't casinos open up more avenues for organized and other types of criminals to operate or flourish? I have no moral problem with gambling, but does it create more problems that the tax revenue won't necessarily be worthwhile?

Spoken like a true 80 yr old.

by Anonymousreply 21October 29, 2022 1:04 PM

Look what gambling 🎰 did to Atlantic City.

by Anonymousreply 22October 29, 2022 2:28 PM

Hey New Yorkers, some form of casino gambling is now in 44 states. First of all, don't think you are special. Secondly, casino gambling has not caused horrible crime. Of course, in your city, that trend might change.

by Anonymousreply 23October 29, 2022 2:34 PM

[quote]Giuliani is spinning in his grave

WHAT? Did I miss this happy event?

by Anonymousreply 24October 29, 2022 3:00 PM

That’ll put another nail in AC’s coffin when all the old lady slot machine addicts from Queens and Long Island make their way to Times Square instead of taking a 3 hour bus ride. Is there anything in Atlantic City anymore?

by Anonymousreply 25October 29, 2022 3:06 PM

Nobody seems to ever ask the question: do we really need this? Nor do they ever follow up with: what happens when we do this and it doesn't work out, not even coming close to what the naysayers project, let alone the pie-in-the-sky lies slung by developers?

I'm old enough to remember when Vegas (well, all of Nevada, but you know what I mean) was the only place in the US you could gamble. I remember how New Jersey projected that gaming would bring Atlantic City back and... we all see how that's worked out. (Giving Trump a license to print money — essentially what a gaming license is — only showed what a failure of a businessman he is.) I think the Indian casinos have worked out because they follow a basic formula that locates them in less populated areas that becomes a destination rather than integrated them into an existing tourist attraction, but there are examples of such casinos that have succeeded.

But I come back to the same question, and I can't think of a reason we need a casino in the heart of the theater district, or how it would help revitalize Times Square or midtown Manhattan other than one of the proposed developers being Caesars, which indeed conjured up my teen years memories of hunky boys in skimpy togas, because it's been a while since Times Square had enough exposed male flesh.

by Anonymousreply 26October 29, 2022 3:08 PM

Honest question, were Trumps failures because he is a horrible businessman or because he's such a crook the businesses couldn't survive his thievery?

by Anonymousreply 27October 29, 2022 3:22 PM

Gambling Casinos attract very foolish people, like the old saying goes, "a fool and his money are soon parted"...

by Anonymousreply 28October 29, 2022 3:36 PM

That's sort of a "which came first, the chicken or the egg" question, R27. Trump failed in gaming before the Russians realized he was willing to sell out America for a few rubles; certainly, if he owned a casino today (and I don't know of a gaming commission that would be stupid enough to give him a license, but I'm sure there's one in some red state that would) the Russians could launder billions of dollars through it. But maybe there's your answer, because Putin would not stand for Trump stealing from him. And, of course, if the Russians had an alternative for laundering money into Republican campaigns, that would be the end of the NRA.

by Anonymousreply 29October 29, 2022 3:37 PM

[Quote]Giuliani is spinning in his grave

Especially since he's still alive.

by Anonymousreply 30October 29, 2022 3:40 PM

Hey, R23, go fuck yourself.

by Anonymousreply 31October 29, 2022 3:54 PM

r25 Atlantic City will probably stay in business because it at least has the beach and the Jersey Shore guidos. This will probably be the death knell to Vegas though. Who wants to fry in the middle of that hellhole in Nevada?

by Anonymousreply 32October 29, 2022 3:55 PM

How in hell is one casino in NYC going to spell the death knell of Vegas, R32?

by Anonymousreply 33October 29, 2022 3:56 PM

r33 Once the money rolls in, they're never going to stop at one casino. Casinos attract interesting politics.

by Anonymousreply 34October 29, 2022 3:58 PM

That hardly qualifies as the death knell of Vegas, R34. I'm a New Yorker living in that area and totally against a casino. We don't need more idiot tourists in NYC.

by Anonymousreply 35October 29, 2022 4:00 PM

r35 Why are you living in Times Square in the first place? Do you need a place to stay?

by Anonymousreply 36October 29, 2022 4:03 PM

R36 thinks she's Henny Youngman.

by Anonymousreply 37October 29, 2022 4:10 PM

This would only be for locals. I doubt too many people would want to visit NYC to go to a casino when they're pretty much all over the country now.

by Anonymousreply 38October 29, 2022 4:11 PM

I don't want a mass of NYC locals pouring into Times Square, either, R38.

by Anonymousreply 39October 29, 2022 4:13 PM

Is someone actually trying to complain about attracting tourists to Times Square?! It's fucking Time Square.

NIMBYs are hilarious. We must preserve the sanctity of this tacky monument to consumerism.

by Anonymousreply 40October 29, 2022 4:16 PM

r40 LOL

by Anonymousreply 41October 29, 2022 4:18 PM

R40, where exactly do YOU live? Not NYC, do, you, Mary?

by Anonymousreply 42October 29, 2022 4:21 PM

Casinos are great places to launder money, especially the really corrupt ones. Expect shady people to rock up from all over the world.

by Anonymousreply 43October 29, 2022 4:22 PM

Another reason I don't want a casino in NYC, R43. We have enough shady money launderers in NYC, which included our traitor ex-president.

by Anonymousreply 44October 29, 2022 4:24 PM

Does anyone remember from experience, in 1980s Times Square were the porno theaters and hookers and sex shops a good time? What was it like back then? I tried watching that James Franco HBO show but didn't make it through the series.

by Anonymousreply 45October 29, 2022 4:25 PM

Will it be a Trump casino?

by Anonymousreply 46October 29, 2022 4:25 PM

There are many other, easier ways to launder money nowadays. Casinos are highly regulated and too much hassle. Money laundering through casinos was a thing in Trump's heyday of the late 80s/early 90s, not now.

by Anonymousreply 47October 29, 2022 4:30 PM

The casino in Boston is an on going failure.

by Anonymousreply 48October 29, 2022 4:31 PM

Back in the day

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by Anonymousreply 49October 29, 2022 4:32 PM

The new season of American Horror Story seems to think that all the sex was going on in The Village back in the 80s. Ryan Murphy apparently has some good memories of the Russian baths.

by Anonymousreply 50October 29, 2022 4:35 PM

Will there be residency shows? It would be grand to have Miss Britney Spears or the Widow Angelil in the city.

If Jenny from the block had a residency, would her card counting husband be allowed in the casino?

by Anonymousreply 51October 29, 2022 4:44 PM

R47 it may not be the preferred way to channel dirty money these days but laundering worth billions still happens via casinos and crime syndicates. They will always attract international high rollers who want to part with lots and lots of hot cash. Of course, casinos are still prone to "fixing" these transactions to make them seem as legitimate as possible.

by Anonymousreply 52October 29, 2022 4:52 PM

In case people don't understand because they're trash themselves and actually like casinos, casinos are dens where gambling addicts go, and lowbrows, and where corruption and dirty money laundering is rife. Any further fucking questions about why anyone with a brain wouldn't want a casino in the middle of the city where they live? If people want to live in Vegas or Atlantic City, move there.

by Anonymousreply 53October 29, 2022 4:57 PM

r53 True but it'll be a very fancy casino, not like a seedy abandoned one in Reno.

by Anonymousreply 54October 29, 2022 5:03 PM

R54, the inner rot is the same in any casino, fancy or otherwise.

by Anonymousreply 55October 29, 2022 5:05 PM

The nature and existence of casinos is to make a profit off the foolishness and addictions of others, and it's the nature and the existence of money laundering and organized crime to make a profit off the profiteers.

by Anonymousreply 56October 29, 2022 5:07 PM

r56 Some people just go to have a good time at the slots. And Times Square isn't anyone's backyard other than a handful of hobos in the subway.

by Anonymousreply 57October 29, 2022 5:08 PM

R57, I was quite obviously speaking metaphorically about the backyard. And if someone wants to have a good time at the slots, they can go to an arcade at the South Street Seaport, where something like that should go. Casinos are more than slots.

by Anonymousreply 58October 29, 2022 5:11 PM

On the plus side, a casino employs a lot of people, and they can offer decent living wages and conditions for staff. Some have great restaurants, shopping options and offer a range of entertainment for all ages and budgets. I have no idea if Ceasars is tacky or high class but they will generate a lot of money for the city.

Better places are required to have natural light on gambling floors, as being in an artificially lit environment for hours causes people to part with their money more readily.

The gambling spaces are designed to create a heightened or hypnotic state for the vulnerable. These days casinos have task forces who will tap people on the shoulder and suggest they get some air or a drink after 3-4 hours of constant gambling, but not refuse them service. It's pretty disgusting actually.

by Anonymousreply 59October 29, 2022 5:31 PM

Downfall complete!

by Anonymousreply 60October 29, 2022 5:45 PM

Are the downtown casinos in places like New Orleans and Detroit still in business?

by Anonymousreply 61October 29, 2022 11:29 PM

This seems to be planned as a high-class development that will be secure for the paitrons inside the building.

Unfortunately, unless the casino is run like the prestige casinos of Europe, the bad stuff associated with gambling ultimately seems to cancel out the good with this kind of project. It's really just another shit hole with a glossy veneer.

Some more info about the building:

[quote]Following the redevelopment of the current building, the proposed Caesars Palace Times Square will include a hotel, wellness center, theater space for The Lion King, and an expansive selection of entertainment, food, and drink options.

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by Anonymousreply 62October 30, 2022 5:22 AM

R28- Gambling is for people who don't know how to make money.

by Anonymousreply 63October 30, 2022 5:33 AM

I'm looking forward to the crab leg buffet! And the row of penny slots!

by Anonymousreply 64October 30, 2022 5:59 AM

R57, you rube: Walk two blocks west of Times Square and you will find yourself in Hell's Kitchen, the "gay mecca" of NYC.

Obviously never having visited our city, perhaps you should restrict your projections to the shit hole you're used to.

by Anonymousreply 65October 30, 2022 6:01 AM

Not visiting your city seems to be a sign of a wise person, R65, and not a rube. Talk about shithole cities.............

by Anonymousreply 66October 30, 2022 6:10 AM

R65 It's amazing they have managed to preserve so much of the quiet residential character of Hell's Kitchen only two blocks away from this development.

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by Anonymousreply 67October 30, 2022 7:36 AM

Good, hick at R66. Believe that and stay where you are. We don't want you. Talk about a rube.

by Anonymousreply 68October 30, 2022 4:02 PM

[quote] There are currently no casinos in Manhattan, though bidding for the coveted licenses will begin soon, starting at $500 million each. Big Number $302.3 million. That’s how much tax revenue New York brought in during the first six months of legal mobile sports betting in the state.

Licenses mean there could be more than one?

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by Anonymousreply 69November 5, 2022 3:31 AM

Will Bette Midler be headlining? Have them stage a musical version of 'Beaches' and eldergays will love it!

by Anonymousreply 70November 5, 2022 3:40 AM

[quote] Hochul said definitely YES.

In other words the governor has been bought off

by Anonymousreply 71November 5, 2022 9:15 AM

WTF is Times Square coming to? Legalized gambling. Give me the good old days of porn shops and drug addicts; at least those guys killed each other, not some random stranger. Bring back the naked guys with erections dancing at The Gaiety or the guys having sex on stage at the ShowPalace. Every city has legalized casinos, but the thing that made NYC special - naked strip shows and gay sex on stage, needs to be brought back to make Times Square special again.

by Anonymousreply 72November 5, 2022 3:13 PM

r72 Giuliani ripped those all out and sold Times Square to Disney. The casino will be a good first start to bringing some of the edge back.

by Anonymousreply 73November 5, 2022 5:38 PM

I don't want porn palaces OR casinos. They both bring in trash.

by Anonymousreply 74November 5, 2022 5:43 PM

r69 There are three licenses. One license is going to the casino in Queens and the other is going to the one in Yonkers. The third license can go anywhere.

They're just finishing construction on a bunch of new hotels in Times Square, including the one in this video, with the goal that they'll get casinos licenses one day.

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by Anonymousreply 75November 5, 2022 5:45 PM

R67, I used to date someone who lived there.

by Anonymousreply 76November 5, 2022 10:43 PM

It'll fight global warming by cutting down on flights to Vegas!

by Anonymousreply 77November 7, 2022 9:56 PM

NYC is going to be even more inundated with fat, trashy, flyover tourists than it already is!

by Anonymousreply 78November 7, 2022 10:04 PM

I live near a PA casino that gets many buses in from NYC. A Manhattan casino would seriously harm our local economy.

by Anonymousreply 79November 7, 2022 10:13 PM

R73 wishes to live in a shithole.

by Anonymousreply 80November 7, 2022 10:44 PM

r80 Better than living in a giant Disneyland.

by Anonymousreply 81November 7, 2022 10:47 PM

I don't think it's gonna be times sq. probably on the west side hudson yards.

too crowded already in times sq

by Anonymousreply 82November 7, 2022 11:36 PM

I’d be okay if that put it in Hudson Yards in place of that ridiculous stairway to nowhere.

by Anonymousreply 83November 7, 2022 11:45 PM

Yeah, Hudson Yards still has an empty lot that takes up 3 full city blocks so that would be the other contender. It's a less exciting location than Times Square but it could hold a much bigger casino, like 10 times the size of what fit go in Times Square. The Hudson Yards lot is also the last chance for the straight's at ever having a football stadium in Manhattan though. That was Bloomberg's plan.

by Anonymousreply 84November 8, 2022 2:32 AM

Let me tell you what will occur:

The entire adult population of Chinatown will migrate north daily.

by Anonymousreply 85November 8, 2022 2:38 AM

It's a great idea to rip people off and a bad idea for mental health

by Anonymousreply 86November 8, 2022 2:46 AM

I hope it's a Trump Casino! That would be the only thing that would save the Democrat shithole of New York.

by Anonymousreply 87November 8, 2022 2:48 AM

r85 Don't forget the entire population of Flushing Queens.

by Anonymousreply 88November 8, 2022 3:09 AM

R84 there is zero chance of any sports facility at the west portion of the railyards….that plan died 20 years ago and remains dead dead dead. The casino option is a real possibility but only as part of the larger Related mixed use plan.

by Anonymousreply 89November 8, 2022 3:14 AM

DL's favorite mayor is working on bringing one to her city too. It's going about as well as you would expect.

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by Anonymousreply 90November 8, 2022 3:29 AM

r89 If Dolan agrees to move Madison Square Garden, they might be able to build a mixed basketball/hockey/football stadium over to Hudson Yards and also do a major repair of Penn Station but so far he's been adamant.

by Anonymousreply 91November 8, 2022 3:37 AM

Why not use The Vessel for a casino? It would be put to good use and, when the losers jump off the building, fewer problem gamblers will be around.

by Anonymousreply 92November 8, 2022 3:41 AM

There is no such thing as a mixed football-basketball-hockey stadium. Don’t be stupid.

by Anonymousreply 93November 8, 2022 11:55 AM

r93 AT&T stadium in Dallas does sometimes.

by Anonymousreply 94November 8, 2022 5:35 PM

AT&T is an NFL football stadium that can be adapted for one-off uses. It is NOT a tri-sport purpose built arena.

by Anonymousreply 95November 8, 2022 5:55 PM

Indoor arena football, basketball, and hockey. All in the same place.

by Anonymousreply 96November 8, 2022 6:25 PM

MSG isn't going anywhere.

by Anonymousreply 97November 8, 2022 11:41 PM

Porn theater-strip bar-church. Now that's a triple use complex!

by Anonymousreply 98November 9, 2022 12:12 AM

It's a great money transfer from the Boomers to the young for once.

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by Anonymousreply 99November 15, 2022 2:01 AM

Mets vs Yankees

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by Anonymousreply 100November 24, 2022 12:31 PM

This is the map of bids so far.

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by Anonymousreply 101November 25, 2022 4:23 PM

Now Jay Z is involved

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