Caesar's Palace Casino coming to Times Square

That building is really an eyesore so I hope they fix up the building when they turn it into a hotel.

[quote]Giuliani is spinning in his grave

If only.

Should bring in a lot of $

Chinatown basically set up their own casino.

Imagine the hair dye splatter inside the coffin.

Casino question came up at the end of the debate last night. Zeldin said probably NO, Hochul said definitely YES.

Caesars LV used to have the hotness for us homos by dressing up the valets in skimpy Roman attire. Then they had them dressed in Roman war wear as greeters.

Don't casinos open up more avenues for organized and other types of criminals to operate or flourish? I have no moral problem with gambling, but does it create more problems that the tax revenue won't necessarily be worthwhile?

Where will it be, the OP article is behind a pay wall.

r9 Two different spots in Times Square and one spot in Hudson Yards are competing to win the license.

r9 Caesar's Palace will be planned for 1515 Broadway.

Patti warned us.

The Broadway League opposes a casino. The project may not go forward.

Didn't they float this a decade or so ago on Roosevelt Island or one of those other small islands?

Absolute insanity. Come election day, there will be more than a few Democrats not casting a ballot for governor,

You'd probably have better odds at the slots than you would investing in a Broadway show.

Actors Equity supports the proposal of a casino. As a gambler myself, I would love it. Not sure about my bank account though. If they had daily poker tournaments, oh my god...

I'm really up for this.

NY Post is against it.

A true Learning From Las Vegas moment

[quote]Don't casinos open up more avenues for organized and other types of criminals to operate or flourish? I have no moral problem with gambling, but does it create more problems that the tax revenue won't necessarily be worthwhile?

Spoken like a true 80 yr old.

Look what gambling 🎰 did to Atlantic City.

Hey New Yorkers, some form of casino gambling is now in 44 states. First of all, don't think you are special. Secondly, casino gambling has not caused horrible crime. Of course, in your city, that trend might change.

[quote]Giuliani is spinning in his grave

WHAT? Did I miss this happy event?

That’ll put another nail in AC’s coffin when all the old lady slot machine addicts from Queens and Long Island make their way to Times Square instead of taking a 3 hour bus ride. Is there anything in Atlantic City anymore?

Nobody seems to ever ask the question: do we really need this? Nor do they ever follow up with: what happens when we do this and it doesn't work out, not even coming close to what the naysayers project, let alone the pie-in-the-sky lies slung by developers?

I'm old enough to remember when Vegas (well, all of Nevada, but you know what I mean) was the only place in the US you could gamble. I remember how New Jersey projected that gaming would bring Atlantic City back and... we all see how that's worked out. (Giving Trump a license to print money — essentially what a gaming license is — only showed what a failure of a businessman he is.) I think the Indian casinos have worked out because they follow a basic formula that locates them in less populated areas that becomes a destination rather than integrated them into an existing tourist attraction, but there are examples of such casinos that have succeeded.

But I come back to the same question, and I can't think of a reason we need a casino in the heart of the theater district, or how it would help revitalize Times Square or midtown Manhattan other than one of the proposed developers being Caesars, which indeed conjured up my teen years memories of hunky boys in skimpy togas, because it's been a while since Times Square had enough exposed male flesh.

Honest question, were Trumps failures because he is a horrible businessman or because he's such a crook the businesses couldn't survive his thievery?

Gambling Casinos attract very foolish people, like the old saying goes, "a fool and his money are soon parted"...

That's sort of a "which came first, the chicken or the egg" question, R27. Trump failed in gaming before the Russians realized he was willing to sell out America for a few rubles; certainly, if he owned a casino today (and I don't know of a gaming commission that would be stupid enough to give him a license, but I'm sure there's one in some red state that would) the Russians could launder billions of dollars through it. But maybe there's your answer, because Putin would not stand for Trump stealing from him. And, of course, if the Russians had an alternative for laundering money into Republican campaigns, that would be the end of the NRA.

[Quote]Giuliani is spinning in his grave

Especially since he's still alive.

Hey, R23, go fuck yourself.

r25 Atlantic City will probably stay in business because it at least has the beach and the Jersey Shore guidos. This will probably be the death knell to Vegas though. Who wants to fry in the middle of that hellhole in Nevada?

How in hell is one casino in NYC going to spell the death knell of Vegas, R32?

r33 Once the money rolls in, they're never going to stop at one casino. Casinos attract interesting politics.

That hardly qualifies as the death knell of Vegas, R34. I'm a New Yorker living in that area and totally against a casino. We don't need more idiot tourists in NYC.

r35 Why are you living in Times Square in the first place? Do you need a place to stay?

R36 thinks she's Henny Youngman.

This would only be for locals. I doubt too many people would want to visit NYC to go to a casino when they're pretty much all over the country now.

I don't want a mass of NYC locals pouring into Times Square, either, R38.

Is someone actually trying to complain about attracting tourists to Times Square?! It's fucking Time Square.

NIMBYs are hilarious. We must preserve the sanctity of this tacky monument to consumerism.

r40 LOL

R40, where exactly do YOU live? Not NYC, do, you, Mary?

Casinos are great places to launder money, especially the really corrupt ones. Expect shady people to rock up from all over the world.

Another reason I don't want a casino in NYC, R43. We have enough shady money launderers in NYC, which included our traitor ex-president.

Does anyone remember from experience, in 1980s Times Square were the porno theaters and hookers and sex shops a good time? What was it like back then? I tried watching that James Franco HBO show but didn't make it through the series.

Will it be a Trump casino?

There are many other, easier ways to launder money nowadays. Casinos are highly regulated and too much hassle. Money laundering through casinos was a thing in Trump's heyday of the late 80s/early 90s, not now.

The casino in Boston is an on going failure.

Back in the day

The new season of American Horror Story seems to think that all the sex was going on in The Village back in the 80s. Ryan Murphy apparently has some good memories of the Russian baths.

Will there be residency shows? It would be grand to have Miss Britney Spears or the Widow Angelil in the city.

If Jenny from the block had a residency, would her card counting husband be allowed in the casino?

R47 it may not be the preferred way to channel dirty money these days but laundering worth billions still happens via casinos and crime syndicates. They will always attract international high rollers who want to part with lots and lots of hot cash. Of course, casinos are still prone to "fixing" these transactions to make them seem as legitimate as possible.

In case people don't understand because they're trash themselves and actually like casinos, casinos are dens where gambling addicts go, and lowbrows, and where corruption and dirty money laundering is rife. Any further fucking questions about why anyone with a brain wouldn't want a casino in the middle of the city where they live? If people want to live in Vegas or Atlantic City, move there.

r53 True but it'll be a very fancy casino, not like a seedy abandoned one in Reno.

R54, the inner rot is the same in any casino, fancy or otherwise.

The nature and existence of casinos is to make a profit off the foolishness and addictions of others, and it's the nature and the existence of money laundering and organized crime to make a profit off the profiteers.

r56 Some people just go to have a good time at the slots. And Times Square isn't anyone's backyard other than a handful of hobos in the subway.

R57, I was quite obviously speaking metaphorically about the backyard. And if someone wants to have a good time at the slots, they can go to an arcade at the South Street Seaport, where something like that should go. Casinos are more than slots.

On the plus side, a casino employs a lot of people, and they can offer decent living wages and conditions for staff. Some have great restaurants, shopping options and offer a range of entertainment for all ages and budgets. I have no idea if Ceasars is tacky or high class but they will generate a lot of money for the city.

Better places are required to have natural light on gambling floors, as being in an artificially lit environment for hours causes people to part with their money more readily.

The gambling spaces are designed to create a heightened or hypnotic state for the vulnerable. These days casinos have task forces who will tap people on the shoulder and suggest they get some air or a drink after 3-4 hours of constant gambling, but not refuse them service. It's pretty disgusting actually.

Downfall complete!

Are the downtown casinos in places like New Orleans and Detroit still in business?

This seems to be planned as a high-class development that will be secure for the paitrons inside the building.

Unfortunately, unless the casino is run like the prestige casinos of Europe, the bad stuff associated with gambling ultimately seems to cancel out the good with this kind of project. It's really just another shit hole with a glossy veneer.

Some more info about the building:

[quote]Following the redevelopment of the current building, the proposed Caesars Palace Times Square will include a hotel, wellness center, theater space for The Lion King, and an expansive selection of entertainment, food, and drink options.

R28- Gambling is for people who don't know how to make money.

I'm looking forward to the crab leg buffet! And the row of penny slots!

R57, you rube: Walk two blocks west of Times Square and you will find yourself in Hell's Kitchen, the "gay mecca" of NYC.

Obviously never having visited our city, perhaps you should restrict your projections to the shit hole you're used to.

Not visiting your city seems to be a sign of a wise person, R65, and not a rube. Talk about shithole cities.............

R65 It's amazing they have managed to preserve so much of the quiet residential character of Hell's Kitchen only two blocks away from this development.

Good, hick at R66. Believe that and stay where you are. We don't want you. Talk about a rube.

[quote] There are currently no casinos in Manhattan, though bidding for the coveted licenses will begin soon, starting at $500 million each. Big Number $302.3 million. That’s how much tax revenue New York brought in during the first six months of legal mobile sports betting in the state.

Licenses mean there could be more than one?

Will Bette Midler be headlining? Have them stage a musical version of 'Beaches' and eldergays will love it!

[quote] Hochul said definitely YES.

In other words the governor has been bought off

WTF is Times Square coming to? Legalized gambling. Give me the good old days of porn shops and drug addicts; at least those guys killed each other, not some random stranger. Bring back the naked guys with erections dancing at The Gaiety or the guys having sex on stage at the ShowPalace. Every city has legalized casinos, but the thing that made NYC special - naked strip shows and gay sex on stage, needs to be brought back to make Times Square special again.

r72 Giuliani ripped those all out and sold Times Square to Disney. The casino will be a good first start to bringing some of the edge back.

I don't want porn palaces OR casinos. They both bring in trash.

r69 There are three licenses. One license is going to the casino in Queens and the other is going to the one in Yonkers. The third license can go anywhere.

They're just finishing construction on a bunch of new hotels in Times Square, including the one in this video, with the goal that they'll get casinos licenses one day.

R67, I used to date someone who lived there.

It'll fight global warming by cutting down on flights to Vegas!

NYC is going to be even more inundated with fat, trashy, flyover tourists than it already is!

I live near a PA casino that gets many buses in from NYC. A Manhattan casino would seriously harm our local economy.

R73 wishes to live in a shithole.

r80 Better than living in a giant Disneyland.

I don't think it's gonna be times sq. probably on the west side hudson yards.

too crowded already in times sq

I’d be okay if that put it in Hudson Yards in place of that ridiculous stairway to nowhere.

Yeah, Hudson Yards still has an empty lot that takes up 3 full city blocks so that would be the other contender. It's a less exciting location than Times Square but it could hold a much bigger casino, like 10 times the size of what fit go in Times Square. The Hudson Yards lot is also the last chance for the straight's at ever having a football stadium in Manhattan though. That was Bloomberg's plan.

Let me tell you what will occur:

The entire adult population of Chinatown will migrate north daily.

It's a great idea to rip people off and a bad idea for mental health

I hope it's a Trump Casino! That would be the only thing that would save the Democrat shithole of New York.

r85 Don't forget the entire population of Flushing Queens.

R84 there is zero chance of any sports facility at the west portion of the railyards….that plan died 20 years ago and remains dead dead dead. The casino option is a real possibility but only as part of the larger Related mixed use plan.

DL's favorite mayor is working on bringing one to her city too. It's going about as well as you would expect.

r89 If Dolan agrees to move Madison Square Garden, they might be able to build a mixed basketball/hockey/football stadium over to Hudson Yards and also do a major repair of Penn Station but so far he's been adamant.

Why not use The Vessel for a casino? It would be put to good use and, when the losers jump off the building, fewer problem gamblers will be around.

There is no such thing as a mixed football-basketball-hockey stadium. Don’t be stupid.

r93 AT&T stadium in Dallas does sometimes.

AT&T is an NFL football stadium that can be adapted for one-off uses. It is NOT a tri-sport purpose built arena.

Indoor arena football, basketball, and hockey. All in the same place.

MSG isn't going anywhere.

Porn theater-strip bar-church. Now that's a triple use complex!

It's a great money transfer from the Boomers to the young for once.

Mets vs Yankees

This is the map of bids so far.

Now Jay Z is involved

Coney Island proposal

Will Trump try to open one too?

It's a great idea for money making

Try "laundering."