Did Freddie Prinze Jr and Sarah Michelle Gellar run out of money or something?
They both seemed to retire at what was near the height of their popularity.
Now, they're both starting to do projects that are clearly for the paycheck - she's doing that Teen Wolf spinoff and he's doing what amounts to Hallmark Christmas movies for Netflix.
Any ideas?
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 130 | October 29, 2022 5:55 AM
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They both can't act. One must settle once they hit middle age.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | October 21, 2022 2:11 AM
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He'd probably look better chubby.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 3 | October 21, 2022 2:11 AM
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Part of the problem is that weird hairstyle - Freddie, Tin Tin and 2005 are calling. They want their hair style back.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | October 21, 2022 2:12 AM
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I'm sure they have a fair amount of savings and investments. However not enough to live at a celebrity level for life. So they take the work where they can get to it. That's the life of an actor or actress for the most part. Jonathan Winters paid for all his kids college educations doing those Bounty commercials.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | October 21, 2022 2:15 AM
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Both of them are DEMANDING $1 Million Dollars from Howard Stern
by Anonymous | reply 6 | October 21, 2022 2:18 AM
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SMG could've easily had a lifestyle brand. Perhaps she tried and it failed, but even Jessica Alba has Honest (and no one really likes her).
Good to see FP Jr working again. He's always been cute and harmless, so Hallmark movies are a good fit for him.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | October 21, 2022 2:20 AM
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I think SMG does have a product line. Sauces or hairspray, something like that.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | October 21, 2022 2:21 AM
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They aren't "demanding" money from Stern. They would just like for him to live up to his bet that he would give them $1M if their marriage lasted 10 years.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | October 21, 2022 2:25 AM
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At her peak post-Buffy, she could easily have rolled into some fairly lucrative work. Even now, her cred among fanboys is extremely high. She should have been able to land a better roll in a genre show or movie.
When the Ahsoka series rolls and they find Ezra, I'm hoping for a live action Kanan Jarrus force ghost appearance from Freddie.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | October 21, 2022 2:25 AM
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She landed shows. They just didn't run.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | October 21, 2022 2:27 AM
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Wasn't Freddie one of the top ten DL identified homo's of the 90's?
by Anonymous | reply 12 | October 21, 2022 2:29 AM
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[quote]He's lost his looks.
You don't say!
by Anonymous | reply 13 | October 21, 2022 3:28 AM
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His hair looks terrible. All wrong for him.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | October 21, 2022 3:39 AM
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[quote]I think SMG does have a product line. Sauces or...
Sounds more like Monica Gellar, r8.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | October 21, 2022 3:46 AM
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He can't act but she could. She never got that A list part. Odd that she was rumored for Gangs of New York but I picture her being fucking amazing in it if it happened. Sarah Polley as well for sure around that time.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | October 21, 2022 3:46 AM
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[quote]They both seemed to retire at what was near the height of their popularity.
To be fair, she'd been working since she was a child. I actually do buy her explanation that she wanted to take a break after Robin Williams' death to spend more time with her kids when they were young and the reason she started acting again is that they were older and she got bored.
And it seems more that she's doing things she thinks are interesting now. Maybe she gave up and realized, she's always going to be a horror/sci-fi actress at her core. It did seem that she started to embrace Buffy a few years ago during her "break" after she spent years trying to get away from it.
Freddie on the other hand is a complete mystery to me.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | October 21, 2022 3:58 AM
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Sarah has a small part in the well-reviewed Netflix movie Do Revenge. I was always a fan of hers, but her acting never improved as she got older, and Hollywood moves quickly to the next big thing.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | October 21, 2022 4:07 AM
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She has her own line of cake mixes and frosting.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | October 21, 2022 4:11 AM
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Never watched "Buffy" and I was past watching the ABC soaps lineup I had been devoted to in my misspent youth when she came along.
I saw "Cruel Intentions" and preferred "Valmont" in every respect. Freddie Prince Jr was hot at some point in the distant past. Other than that, I have no impressions of Sarah Michelle Gellar and Freddie Prinze Jr.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | October 21, 2022 4:14 AM
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Freddie seems to have overcome his family demons. Hope they are happy.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | October 21, 2022 4:15 AM
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Freddie’s time as an A lister ended in the early aughts but continued to work regularly until he decides he wanted to stay at home with his kids. He also had spinal surgery and has to relearn to walk. He does a lot of voice over work and seems pretty happy where he’s at career wise. Remember his time as a movie star was over 20 years ago.
Also, I’d eat his ass.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | October 21, 2022 4:23 AM
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Why is his hair like Hades from Hercules? Just a flame shooting straight up. 🔥
by Anonymous | reply 24 | October 21, 2022 4:27 AM
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She’s on a list (not kidding) of celebs that will show up at corporate events for 20k. I asked the takent wrangler, well how much for her and Freddy? Response: but one get one free.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | October 21, 2022 4:39 AM
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Howard Stern should write a check for $1 million. If he wants to speculate out loud about how many years a marriage will last and starts being specific about how much he'll pay, then he should pay up.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | October 21, 2022 4:43 AM
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Fuck that, Howard's a radio host who tells jokes and runs his mouth for a living. I can't stand him but I wouldn't hold him to a joke-bet he made ten years ago about these two has-beens.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | October 21, 2022 4:54 AM
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[Quote] Now, they're both starting to do projects that are clearly for the paycheck
Why else would SMG choose to do Wolf Pack? Jeff can't write for shit and it's funny watching him constantly kiss her ass on his instagram.
[Quote] SMG could've easily had a lifestyle brand.
She does, it's called Foodstirs.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | October 21, 2022 5:40 PM
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He resembles Anthony Weiner in OP's photo. aka Carlos Danger.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | October 21, 2022 5:47 PM
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Freddie had such a great head of hair back in the day. He's obviously lost a lot of it and they're pulling out all the stops to 'rebuild' something that looks like hair from a distance.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | October 21, 2022 9:14 PM
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He looks like a ventriloquist’s doll.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | October 21, 2022 9:36 PM
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I was ten when his Dad killed himself. I remember thinking about "his poor baby" after it happened. I'm glad that he turned out okay! He did a lot of voice work for Star Wars animated shows. That probably paid enough to help keep them going for a while.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | October 21, 2022 9:48 PM
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As noted upthread, they have more time on their hands now that their kids are older. They probably have plenty of money.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 33 | October 21, 2022 9:54 PM
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If he's doing these type of movies, he's not doing too well.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | October 21, 2022 9:59 PM
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She does a ton of #sponcon on IG and probably gets around 20k/post. She’s doing ok. (Although she’s NOT aged well)
by Anonymous | reply 35 | October 21, 2022 10:17 PM
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Didn't she put up a very badly facetuned pic a while back? I think it was an attempt to go viral and plug her product line, though.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | October 21, 2022 10:28 PM
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Back in the day I could have made him forget about his father for as long as he could take it.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | October 21, 2022 10:31 PM
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[quote]Now, they're both starting to do projects that are clearly for the paycheck - she's doing that Teen Wolf spinoff and he's doing what amounts to Hallmark Christmas movies for Netflix.
At least it isn't an actual Hallmark film. He's way too good for that.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | October 21, 2022 10:31 PM
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He's pleasant. That doesn't me he's too god for any gig.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | October 21, 2022 10:32 PM
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*He's pleasant. That doesn't mean he's too god for any gig.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | October 21, 2022 10:32 PM
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And unlike a Hallmark film, Christmas With You appears to have been filmed in NYC(as opposed to Canada).
by Anonymous | reply 42 | October 21, 2022 10:36 PM
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Freddie has a podcast where he talks about pro wrestling and has talked about wanting to start his own promotion (he did briefly work for WWE as a member of their creative team so it’s not totally crazy), I wonder if he’s doing these random cash-grab movies to try to raise money so he can get that off the ground.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | October 21, 2022 10:39 PM
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She had some pretty big movie hits between I Know What You Did Last Summer, Cruel Intentions and The Grudge, but her movie career never panned out beyond that. Her shows like Ringer and that Robin Williams show also both got cancelled after only 1 season each. Then the Cruel Intentions pilot wasn't even picked up. She hasn't had a winning streak outside of Buffy and she's already said she wouldn't reprise that role.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | October 21, 2022 10:47 PM
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[quote]That probably paid enough to help keep them going for a while.
These people are not "poor." I have no doubt that if he wanted a supporting TV series gig he could get it. I don't think he does. He was already over acting after working with Keifer Sutherland (who he openly hated) on 24. He quit for a couple of years, tried the WWE thing, etc. Sometimes the simplest answer is the correct one: he just doesn't want it anymore.
Also voice over work is great for actors like Freddie because they can 1. often do it from home, 2. you deal with very few people and 3. no one cares what you look like or what you're wearing.
[quote]Why else would SMG choose to do Wolf Pack? Jeff can't write for shit and it's funny watching him constantly kiss her ass on his instagram.
She gets her exec producer vanity credit and (as she said recently) she knows her audience and is doing projects for them. She'll get eyes on the show. I'm sure they're paying her well since Paramount's streaming service isn't as stingy as some of the others. Why serve in heaven you can reign in hell. She's the star of the show and she doesn't have to compete with anyone.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | October 21, 2022 10:48 PM
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If the voice over work was as great as you suggest, he would need to make Xmas movies. If there were any demand for his acting talents, he could do supporting roles in respectable projects. But his stock is low. Real low.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | October 21, 2022 10:52 PM
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I can't wait for the hard border eyebrow thing to die. (SMG is at the link, though J.Lo is the preview image.)
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 48 | October 21, 2022 10:56 PM
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I don't think Freddie Prinze Jr has any value in Hollywood anymore. SMG still does though.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | October 21, 2022 11:04 PM
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[quote]If the voice over work was as great as you suggest,
Let me stop you right here before you say something stupid. Everyone voice over acts now. On Camera actors have taken over voice over. Of course it doesn't pay as much as an on camera role would but there's less effort involved for them.
[quote]he would need to make Xmas movies.
"Movies?" "Need?"
Netflix offered him money to do a Christmas romcom where he probably had to do very little heavy lifting.
[quote]he could do supporting roles in respectable projects.
Something tells me this probably paid better than a single episode stint.
[quote]But his stock is low. Real low
My point is: he doesn't really want to act anymore which is why he hasn't done a romcom in 20 years. He only does things that require little effort.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | October 21, 2022 11:13 PM
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[Quote] Netflix offered him money to do a Christmas romcom where he probably had to do very little heavy lifting.
You have no idea about the business, do you? Roles like this are of a lower stature in the industry and with the lower pay to go with it.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | October 21, 2022 11:23 PM
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[Quote] My point is: he doesn't really want to act anymore
And that's a stupid fucking point to make when this thread began with the trailer for his latest acting project. If he had lots of money in the bank and he didn't really want to act, he'd do smaller roles in better projects than this...
by Anonymous | reply 52 | October 21, 2022 11:24 PM
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[Quote] She hasn't had a winning streak outside of Buffy and she's already said she wouldn't reprise that role.
Which is smart of her. Honestly they shouldn't bother with a Buffy reboot. I saw the creator of QaF is interested in doing one, i can only imagine how big of a cluster fuck that would be.
[Quote] She'll get eyes on the show. I'm sure they're paying her well since Paramount's streaming service isn't as stingy as some of the others. Why serve in heaven you can reign in hell. She's the star of the show and she doesn't have to compete with anyone.
Sure, she will bring in a few viewers. But she's playing the parent of one of the characters. And fans won't stick around if it's as bad as Teen Wolf was.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | October 22, 2022 1:06 AM
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Russell T. Davies wants to reboot Buffy?!
by Anonymous | reply 54 | October 22, 2022 1:09 AM
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But viewers stuck around for seven seasons of Teen Wolf...
by Anonymous | reply 55 | October 22, 2022 1:09 AM
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R55 that depends on which Teen Wolf fans you're asking.
R54 no, not Russell.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 56 | October 22, 2022 1:13 AM
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[quote] But she's playing the parent of one of the characters.
Her character is the investigator called in to town to try and figure out what exactly is going on.
She's also the only name actor. They're not using her to promote the show just to sit in the background.
She does call the actors her kids because she was involved with casting them.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | October 22, 2022 3:57 AM
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You'd think they could've picked someone to play the daughter that looks something like both/one of the parents.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | October 22, 2022 4:41 AM
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[Quote] She does call the actors her kids because she was involved with casting them.
Hmm same deal with Tyler and casting his son for the TW movie. Obviously some of them got cast for other reasons.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | October 22, 2022 6:28 AM
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It’s all about the casting couch.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | October 22, 2022 8:09 AM
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[quote]The plan was to have a Black actress as the new Buffy. However, there hasn’t been much news since the idea for the reboot was announced. Perhaps this new interest in the show will get the ball rolling on the Joss-Whedon-less Buffy reboot we deserve.
That black lady is all wrong for Buffy.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | October 22, 2022 8:13 AM
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Sarah Michelle Gellar is/was a decent actress but I always got the impression that she was probably a bitch in real life. Likable onscreen, but probably not so much in reality. Seems like an ice princess. Freddie is a terrible actor and comes across as not very bright, but in the most lovable way possible. I have always found him quite adorable. They frankly seem like a weird pairing to me.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | October 22, 2022 8:26 AM
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We tried that live-action "Scooby-Doo" franchise, but it didn't take off.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | October 22, 2022 9:20 AM
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R62 SMG did come off as fairly smug back in the Buffy days and she didn't become bffs with the cast. Butthat's probably for the best considering how unpleasant things were bts. As for FPJ, opposites attract and i would not be surprised if they had an open marriage like most Hollywood couples.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | October 22, 2022 9:22 AM
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R62, I don’t think she would’ve had so much trouble finding quality work if this wasn’t true to a certain degree.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | October 22, 2022 9:37 AM
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I remember James Masters saying in a magazine that SMG pulled him aside early in his run and told him that if she throws a dinner party and he's not invited that he shouldn't take it personally. He said he appreciated that she took the time to do that. It would seem that she wanted to sidestep any "incestuous" relationships.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | October 22, 2022 12:57 PM
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[quote]The plan was to have a Black actress as the new Buffy.
If it's from the reboot (and failed) QAF showrunner, it's going to be a black trans woman...
by Anonymous | reply 67 | October 22, 2022 2:40 PM
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[quote]Sarah Michelle Gellar is/was a decent actress but I always got the impression that she was probably a bitch in real life.
There have been tons of threads on her over the years with many first and second hand accounts and stories. Then there are the things her costars have said in the past.
The consensus is that she has a bad rep because she's not the kind of person that "goes to office Happy Hour."
She has been described as, "professional." She's not at work to be friends. She's there to work. She's there on time. She knows her lines. She knows her marks. She stayed firmly in her lane and I agree with the other person that it was probably for the best. You notice no one blamed her for not doing anything to stop Joss from being an asshole even if it was her character's name on the show? Getting involved would have been out of character for her which is why she apologized to Charisma Carpenter when she came out with her story. She SHOULD have gotten involved but Charisma probably knew she couldn't go to Sarah anyway. Either way, Joss was apparently was on his best behavior around her and she firmly stayed out of anyone else's business.
Off the set, she was apparently very nice. She did become BFFs with Alyson Hannigan (who actually was a bitch according to her costars.) She was also friends with every closeted gay man in the late 90s, early 00s and has been with friends with Lee Pace for years.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 68 | October 22, 2022 6:21 PM
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[Quote] it's going to be a black trans woman...
For DLs sake i hope not.
[Quote] Off the set, she was apparently very nice. She did become BFFs with Alyson Hannigan (who actually was a bitch according to her costars.)
They were friends for the first few seasons then drifted apart. I heard she also chewed Marc out in front of the crew for some joke he made.
Also been a few blind items about her sleeping with higher ups and/or Harvey when doing movies.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | October 23, 2022 5:11 AM
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[quote]They were friends for the first few seasons then drifted apart.
In an article from March she talked about this. They were friends, they fought, but they are friends now. She pops up on her Instagram responding to things occasionally and every now and then they're spotted together.
But yes, she did make friends with at least one person that she still sees.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 70 | October 23, 2022 10:49 PM
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The only time we've really heard any issues with her is when she was on All My Children. Yet she seems to be loved by many cast members but she and Susan Lucci didn't get along. I've always thought it was more Lucci being insecure about SMG. I watched the show then and SMG was excellent and you knew she was going to be a star. Maybe Lucci felt threatened. Both SMG and Lucci have been noted as being professionals. They still did their scenes together but it's a shame that when SMG returned to AMC to film some scenes, none of them were with Lucci.
And God, FPJ's hair really does look terrible.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | October 24, 2022 3:06 AM
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R71 didn’t her stage mother plant a lot of those stories though (through SMG’s respective agent/publicist)? Given the general pr narrative (older star jealous of an upstart’s “great talent”) it would make sense.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | October 24, 2022 3:31 AM
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SMG is also BFFFFs with Shannen Doherty. Bitches be friends with bitches. SMG definitely wears the pants in the relationship with sweet, passive Freddie.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | October 24, 2022 9:37 AM
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She was friends with Britney for a time.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 74 | October 24, 2022 10:29 AM
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Did Freddie actually retire? I'm certain he's been doing low-key stuff over the years like video game voice acting and such.
I assumed he didn't retire so much as run out of opportunities. Though Hallmark style Christmas movies are a new low.
At least with voice acting he doesn't have to show his aging face.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | October 24, 2022 10:57 AM
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Speaking of "rolls", if SMG gets some better rolls she should feed a few to Freddie.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | October 24, 2022 11:04 AM
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FPJ was supposed to play Nancy Drew's dad on the CW but he ended up being replaced.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | October 24, 2022 11:26 AM
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I do not believe that Susan Lucci was a bitch to SMG. In all of her decades working on AMC there has never been one complaint or accusation of SL ever being rude or difficult with any of her many coworkers. There are, however, rumors about SMG being difficult to work with.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | October 24, 2022 11:41 AM
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Is "Dark Minge Lord" "Nate Crnekovich" under a different name?
by Anonymous | reply 81 | October 24, 2022 12:30 PM
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He doesn’t look so cute anymore.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | October 24, 2022 12:38 PM
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R80- Of course he’s not GAY.
How can he be when he’s a TOTAL PUSSYHOUND
by Anonymous | reply 83 | October 24, 2022 12:40 PM
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SMG was on AMC from 1993-95. She was 16 years old at the time.
What 16 year old isn't a little difficult every once in a while.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | October 24, 2022 1:10 PM
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Good point, R84. It still had to hurt La Lucci's pride when SMG sashayed off with an Emmy before her.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | October 25, 2022 12:51 AM
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I had a friend who worked on All My Children and was friendly with Sarah. They said she wasn’t so much a bitch as she could be obliviously rude and had awkward social skills. It was probably the child actor thing. She was a professional child but missed out on the milestones of normal socialization with kids her age and probably needed that more than others, especially as she became very famous and had to hone the schmoozing part of her job, which is so important.
It was weird to watch the few interviews you’d see of her on the set of Buffy. She’d be in the costume of some iconic episode and just acting like a smug brat.
Even if she was mostly professional, I could see that alone being a deterrent from making it on the A list post Buffy.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | October 25, 2022 1:13 AM
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SMG has a a funny face, which only became more so when she dieted down and then aged.
by Anonymous | reply 87 | October 25, 2022 1:17 AM
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[Quote] It was weird to watch the few interviews you’d see of her on the set of Buffy. She’d be in the costume of some iconic episode and just acting like a smug brat.
Smug is the word i keep seeing being used to describe her.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | October 25, 2022 7:13 AM
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[quote]didn’t her stage mother plant a lot of those stories though
That was the general consensus: that there may have been something going on but the stage mother played it up.
Then of course there was the Kathy Griffin story that she claimed SMG told her. This used to be on video but that video has long disappeared.
Long story short: SMG told her that Susan Lucci hated her, and had her fired as soon as she won the Emmy before the Emmy's show ended.
Of course in print, SMG sad she was planning on leaving AMC anyway and the Emmy win came a couple of days before she did. She said she didn't remember Lucci congratulating her but she thinks she may have. She said by that point they weren't working together. She did openly say that yes, there were issues between the two of them.
They both appeared years later on "Live ..." doing a bit reprising their roles. While I can imagine they're over it, they aren't best friends or friends at all.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 89 | October 25, 2022 12:50 PM
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Team Lucci. It is just a matter of history and long standing work reputations.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | October 25, 2022 1:00 PM
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Fucking hell, Freddie could pass as a 70-something Bob Barker.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | October 25, 2022 1:14 PM
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I think that Kathy Griffin story is bullshit. Lucci didn't have the power to fire people and if she did there's no reason she'd have waited until Gellar's Emmy win to have had her booted. Gellar was also a teenager at the time and had to turn down several movie roles including Clueless and Romeo + Juliet because of AMC so she definitely wanted out of there on her own accord.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | October 25, 2022 1:30 PM
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I don't believe Claire Danes was lower on the list for Juliet than a soap actress... c'mon now.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | October 25, 2022 1:31 PM
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[quote]Gellar was also a teenager at the time and had to turn down several movie roles including Clueless and Romeo + Juliet
People always get this confused.
She was up for the Danes role in Stardust not Romey + Juliet which came out in 2007 on the tail end of her hot-streak because she and Freddie took turns working and it was Freddie's turn to work.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 94 | October 25, 2022 1:41 PM
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I'll have the Business Woman's Special.
by Anonymous | reply 95 | October 25, 2022 1:43 PM
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Her Rep after Buffy was not good. She was pegged as difficult to work with. They were pegging their hopes on a scooby doo franchise but it tanked.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | October 25, 2022 1:44 PM
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[quote] She was up for the Danes role in Stardust not Romey + Juliet
That is true. But online the rumor is she was also up for Romeo + Juliet. That story could be false, but it appears in lots of places online. I do know the Clueless story is true. She told it to Jules Asner during an hourlong sit-down on E! about 20 years ago.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | October 25, 2022 1:47 PM
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Freddie was on the Punky Brewster reboot last year, so these Hallmark-style movies aren't the only thing he's done recently. I think he seems like a nice guy, but he's a limited actor, so those types of roles suit him. And there's a lot of money to be made in them. I think SMG is good in a very specific wheelhouse (bitchy and/or sarcastic) and needs to find roles that fit that mold. Tbh, I think bitchy/sarcastic seems like her actual personality. She'd probably make an excellent real housewife.
by Anonymous | reply 98 | October 25, 2022 1:51 PM
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R97, Oh, yeah. I know.
The thing is we know she turned down Stardust because it came from her mouth in print more than once.
As for the Romeo thing being printed over and over it happens on the internet. Allegedly auditioned becomes she auditioned becomes she was offered it. From what we do know in print & quotes Natalie Portman was offered it, the producers ultimately thought she was too young and then DiCaprio chose Danes himself.
SMG was forced to turn down Fight Club, The Faculty, Gangs of New York and Rogue in the X-Men because of Buffy/AMC which is kind of sad when you think about it.
Luckily Buffy is a cult classic so it’s not like her work will be forgotten.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | October 25, 2022 8:32 PM
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[Quote] SMG was forced to turn down Fight Club, The Faculty, Gangs of New York and Rogue in the X-Men because of Buffy/AMC which is kind of sad when you think about it.
The only role i can picture Sarah in is The Faculty. I like the X-Men movies but Rogue could have been handled better.
by Anonymous | reply 100 | October 25, 2022 11:21 PM
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I doun't believe SMG was wanted for Gangs of New York or Fight Club, The Faculty and X-Men, sure.
by Anonymous | reply 101 | October 25, 2022 11:23 PM
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I think she turned down The Faculty, but it was because she didn't want to do another teen horror movie, not because of scheduling conflicts. She was never offered Rogue. I remember when that rumor was going around she was asked about it in an interview and said she'd be interested in the role but hadn't been approached.
by Anonymous | reply 102 | October 25, 2022 11:44 PM
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[quote] As for the Romeo thing being printed over and over it happens on the internet. Allegedly auditioned becomes she auditioned becomes she was offered it.
Yeah, for sure. It's stated in lots of places online that Katie Holmes was offered and turned down Buffy, but I'm fairly certain there's no truth to that at all. Katie Holmes would still have been in high school when Buffy was cast and I don't think she was even acting professionally yet. It also would have been widely reported around the time Dawson's Creek started that she'd turned down Buffy, but that story didn't pop up until years later and has never been traced to any reputable source.
by Anonymous | reply 103 | October 25, 2022 11:56 PM
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[quote]I doun't believe SMG was wanted for Gangs of New York
They ended up having to go with Cameron Diaz in that role so ... I mean ... eh. The other person was Sarah Polley.
[quote] She was never offered Rogue. I remember when that rumor was going around she was asked about it in an interview and said she'd be interested in the role but hadn't been approached.
Probably like the rumor that said, "Angela Bassett turned down the role of Storm." Angela was asked about it and she said they never even called her. The SMG rumor has been reported on multiple times but if you try and track down a source there's never one.
I think sometimes it's a case of people's names being floated around for projects. Maybe someone liked them for it. Maybe someone tried to get something started and peak interest. Then nothing happens except some reporter hears a rumor and the actor or actress is forever attached to the project as something they turned down. Actors then don't usually talk about stuff they were linked to. Although it was funny when Matt Bomer admitted that yes, he was asked if he was interested in 50 Shades by someone involved with it. He said he wasn't. So that rumor fueled by the internet did its work.
by Anonymous | reply 104 | October 26, 2022 3:56 AM
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[Quote] They ended up having to go with Cameron Diaz in that role so ... I mean ... eh. The other person was Sarah Polley.
Because she fucked Heavy.
[Quote] Although it was funny when Matt Bomer admitted that yes, he was asked if he was interested in 50 Shades by someone involved with it. He said he wasn't. So that rumor fueled by the internet did its work.
I think the author originally wanted Henry Cavill.
by Anonymous | reply 105 | October 26, 2022 6:02 AM
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Cameron Diaz was much more of an across the board movie star than SMG ever was. And Sarah Polley had Indie Cred. SMG was very much a genre star (Teen/Fantasy/Horror/Sci-Fi).
by Anonymous | reply 106 | October 26, 2022 1:01 PM
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They need to bring money in. If they live in LA, that's expensive and royalties aren't paying. They look like they enjoy a nice comfortable lifestyle too with luxuries. Does Buffy even air in syndication anymore? Why do people on DL think actors can just stop working? These aren't major athletes, big A-List Hollywood stars or worldwide pop star sensations. Most actors especially ones who made it on TV or some teen film franchise aren't rolling in dough. That's why actors past their prime still work and push a bunch of endorsed products or operate lifestyle brands. They need a passive income
by Anonymous | reply 107 | October 27, 2022 5:11 PM
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They were trying to hit up Howard for a million, maybe you’re onto something .
by Anonymous | reply 108 | October 27, 2022 5:13 PM
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[quote] Why do people on DL think actors can just stop working?
No one is thinking they could just stop working.
As a matter of fact, the whole premise of this thread was that they both stopped working near the peak of their popularity when they could have made the most money. At that time, they must not have believed they needed the money.
They've both been around Hollywood long enough to know what happens when your career goes cold. They both claimed that they wanted to spend more time with family. Fair enough. However, they BOTH have now tried to leap back into their careers after years of letting them lay fallow. He did a few things like guest starring on Bones and, of course, voice over work.
So, the seeming sudden urgency of both taking work, especially work that is clearly for the paycheck only suggests financial pressure, rather than a true desire to restart their careers.
by Anonymous | reply 109 | October 27, 2022 5:59 PM
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R109 Solid points. I agree.
I can definitely see they were not as smart with their money if they're pushing for more roles all of a sudden despite both acting like they were sick of Hollywood. Like you said maybe they felt they were financially secure. And maybe they lived above their means and they ended up in some type of debt. I doubt we'll know the true story. I don't believe either are gay either. Both are boring as fuck heteros.
by Anonymous | reply 110 | October 27, 2022 7:19 PM
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Looks like Enty is now posting about this exact topic:
[quote] This acting couple has long relied on the income of the actress to survive. The actor, after making his fame early on in life, became a stay at home husband. Well, when the money ran out, they both had to step up and the A- list couple are willing to do any project for a paycheck.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 111 | October 27, 2022 8:24 PM
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[Quote] Why do people on DL think actors can just stop working?
Well, BUFFY ran for seven seasons. And not in the era of shitty deals, little/no residuals either.
by Anonymous | reply 112 | October 27, 2022 9:06 PM
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[quote]Looks like Enty is now posting about this exact topic:
Funny how this topic comes up on that site AFTER a thread on DL.
I've always thought that Enty stealth "borrows" stuff from DL when he cannot come up with stuff on his own.
Other people have noted it a few times in the past.
by Anonymous | reply 113 | October 27, 2022 9:19 PM
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R112 Yes. I had a solid run and I'm sure the cast made a good deal off of it. But it ended almost 20 years ago and it's just a cult classic, not nearly as huge as it once was in the early 2000s. Plus Mr and Mrs Prinze still seem to live in LA and in an era of inflation and I'm sure those residuals will degrade over time.
by Anonymous | reply 114 | October 27, 2022 10:25 PM
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You realize that people can invest their earnings, right r114?
by Anonymous | reply 115 | October 27, 2022 10:31 PM
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[quote]But it ended almost 20 years ago and it's just a cult classic, not nearly as huge as it once was in the early 2000s.
Nothing that was around 20 years ago is still huge 20 years later. That's goes especially for a series that only ran once. Star Wars and Star Trek have had multiple iterations.
Buffy though, is still somewhat popular. There are conventions and podcasts and actors who did barely anything making appearances off of it. Every few months there's a Buffy meme floating around and people still reference it on occasion.
If Joss wasn't such a fuckup, I'm sure it would be back on the air by now in some form. It's one of the few shows from that period that hasn't gotten a reboot. Yes, I know they've tried.
by Anonymous | reply 116 | October 28, 2022 1:33 AM
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I'm glad there hasn't been a Buffy reboot. It would be better to do a spin-off or at least a new slayer.
by Anonymous | reply 117 | October 28, 2022 3:04 AM
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[quote]I'm glad there hasn't been a Buffy reboot. It would be better to do a spin-off or at least a new slayer.
Of course, the problem is that in typical bereft-of-creativity fashion, Buffy ended with EVERY girl who could be a slayer becoming a slayer.
The world is overrun with slayers. Now, if the series first season opened with EVERY girl who could be a slayer getting killed by the season's big bad leaving only a single slayer alive, that might account for it.
Otherwise, the finale wrecked the continuity.
by Anonymous | reply 118 | October 28, 2022 3:36 AM
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What does any of that matter? It could just follow one slayer. Plus all those slayers would be in their 40s now. A slayer is born upon every generation. Where is the Millennial slayer or the Gen-Z slayer?
by Anonymous | reply 119 | October 28, 2022 6:25 AM
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[Quote] Where is the Millennial slayer or the Gen-Z slayer?
A Gen Z Slayer? What a terrifying thought.
by Anonymous | reply 120 | October 28, 2022 8:10 AM
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God, I can only imagine a Gen-Z slayer. "Excuse me, but I find your constant attempts to kill me really triggering. You do know Sunnydale High is supposed to be a safe space, right? Also, the gendering of the slayer as 'one girl in all the world' is really problematic."
by Anonymous | reply 121 | October 28, 2022 11:45 AM
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I think part of what hurt her post-Buffy career, while a decent actress, she always had kind of a small girlish voice. It worked for Buffy, it probably hurt her once she aged out of high school/college age roles. Also, while she was/is not ugly, she was probably pretty at the best, and less so once she got a bit too blonde and a bit too thin.
She was really entertaining her first year of AMC, but once she and Lucci were not matched as often, her performances got more one note and she blew the blocks of wood as her love interests out of the water. I know a lot of people don't think Lucci is the greatest actress, but SMG was never better than when she was playing off of her. Whatever the level of their dislike, they did a great job with their final scene where they buried the hatchet but acknowledged they would probably never have a warm mother-daughter connection as they said goodbye and wished each other well.
by Anonymous | reply 122 | October 28, 2022 12:25 PM
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[quote]What does any of that matter? It could just follow one slayer. Plus all those slayers would be in their 40s now. A slayer is born upon every generation. Where is the Millennial slayer or the Gen-Z slayer?
No, the finale altered the dynamic. Willow herself is apparenty more powerful than the group of men who created the first slayer, so altered the one slayer at a time rule.
It's unclear whether it was a permanent change or just for potential slayers currently alive at the time. Whether it is permanent or not, the little montage showing several girls getting their powers shows that some were living in very unhealthy and likely emotionally abusive situations. Many of the hundred if not thousands of girls probably went the bad route like Faith. The world was probably in chaos for years from slayers running amok.
by Anonymous | reply 123 | October 28, 2022 1:16 PM
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[quote]What does any of that matter? It could just follow one slayer. Plus all those slayers would be in their 40s now. A slayer is born upon every generation. Where is the Millennial slayer or the Gen-Z slayer?
The Buffy TV series continued in the Buffy (Season ....) comics which were considered canonical.
However, a different comic company relaunched the Buffy comic (which went from 2019- early 2022) and flat out said it would be hard to continue with what had been built so they started all over again.
The new comic followed the same story from the start of the series but went in a different but updated to 2020s standards.
The "Gen Z" Buffy comics depicts Willow as gay with a girlfriend from the start in high school, turned (usually problematic and Joss Whedon stand-in) Xander from friend into Pervy Vamp Big Bad, brought in Robin Wood early on as a "classmate" of Buffy's, made Cordelia kind and into Spike and kept Kendra who ends up dating Willow's ex-girlfriend (and Willow is fine with it) alive so she, Buffy and Faith can occasionally fight together. It was actually a nice read.
I loved this Kevin Wada cover.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 124 | October 28, 2022 1:21 PM
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^^^wait.
Kendra got created as a slayer because Buffy momentarily died before getting revived. Faith got created when Kendra died.
If Kendra stayed alive, how did Faith get created?
by Anonymous | reply 125 | October 28, 2022 1:40 PM
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More importantly, how did they think it was okay to replace a strong black woman like Kendra with a white woman like Faith?
by Anonymous | reply 126 | October 28, 2022 1:51 PM
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What about Firefly being in the same Whedonverse? Why did Malcolm become a fanaticall priest?
by Anonymous | reply 127 | October 28, 2022 7:38 PM
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[quote]If Kendra stayed alive, how did Faith get created?
Buffy goes inside of the Hellmouth to close it. She ends up needing help so Kendra goes inside after her.
The slayer line "energy" can't sense Kendra because she's not on Earth, it thinks she's dead, and Faith is activated to take her place because there always has to be one.
R126, I know you're joking but yup, that's exactly the kind of thinking that motivated the comic. It tried to fix everything people found problematic about the original series.
by Anonymous | reply 128 | October 28, 2022 9:56 PM
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R123 there was an episode on Angel that focused on the consequences of Willow's spell with one Slayer.
by Anonymous | reply 129 | October 29, 2022 4:35 AM
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R125, the official slayer line then went through Kendra to Faith. Buffy was still allowed to keep her powers but the Chosen One was Faith.
by Anonymous | reply 130 | October 29, 2022 5:55 AM
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