Queen Charlotte of Mecklenburg-Strelitz

Yes her doctor noted she looked "mulatto" in his notes on her. Apparently the Portuguese side of the family had a number of Africans married in over the years. She ran Britain when King George went doo-lally and was extremely popular with the British people.

[quote] Popular debate that Queen Charlotte may have been of black or Sub-Saharan ancestry emerged in the mid-twentieth century. The idea originated with the Jamaican-American writer J. A. Rogers's 1940 book Sex and Race: Volume I, in which he concluded that the queen must have had a "Negro strain" based on what he described as her "broad nostrils and heavy lips" in her portrait by Allan Ramsay, and a quote by Horace Walpole describing her "nostrils spreading too wide; mouth has the same fault". These details gave rise to much later claims that the queen was "mixed-race", "biracial",or "black".

[quote] Proponents of the African ancestry claim also hold to a literal interpretation of Baron Stockmar's diary, in which he described Charlotte as "small and crooked, with a real Mulatto face". Stockmar, who served as personal physician to the queen's granddaughter's husband Leopold I of Belgium, arrived at court just two years before Charlotte's death in 1816. His descriptions of Charlotte's children in this same diary are equally unflattering.[

[quote] In 1999, the PBS writer Mario de Valdes y Cocom popularized and expanded on Rogers's claim in a website developed for PBS Frontline, which has since been cited as the main source by a number of articles on the topic. Valdes also seized on Charlotte's 1761 Allan Ramsay portrait as evidence of African ancestry, citing the queen's "unmistakable African appearance" and "negroid physiogomy" [sic].Valdes claimed that Charlotte had inherited these features from one of her distant ancestors, Madragana (c. 1230–?), a mistress of King Afonso III of Portugal (c. 1210–1279). His conclusion is based on various historical sources that describe Madragana as either Moorish[83] or Mozarab,[84] which Valdes interpreted to mean that she was black.

[quote] [bold]Although popular among the general public, the claims are largely denounced by most scholars.[/bold] Aside from Stockmar's jab at her appearance shortly before her death, [bold] Charlotte was never referred to as having any specifically African physical features, let alone ancestry, during her lifetime.[/bold] Furthermore, her portraiture was not atypical for her time, and painted portraits in general should not be considered reliable evidence of a sitter's true appearance.The use of the term "Moor" as a racial identifier for Charlotte's ancestor Madragana is also problematic as during the middle ages the term was not used to describe race but religious affiliation. Regardless, Madragana was more likely Mozarab, and any genetic contribution from an ancestor fifteen generations removed would be so diluted anyway as to be functionally negligible. The historian Andrew Roberts describes the claims as "utter rubbish", and attributes its public popularity to a hesitancy among historians to openly address it due to its "cultural cringe factor".

According to Snopes, it's unproven.

They can say it's unproven all they want, whenever I see her I see a mixed race woman. And they don't have to go back 15 generations to look for African ancestry either; her mother could've fucked a black or mixed servant at court.

The farther one gets from an historical event, the easier it is to revise it to agenda.

If it were true, that would mean the BRF all have black blood in them.

[quote] They can say it's unproven all they want, whenever I see her I see a mixed race woman.

Facts would only get in your way!

This guy brings portraits to life to get a better idea of how historical figures looked in person. His version of Charlotte is very convincing

No. That's been debunked over and over again.

[quote] her mother could've fucked a black or mixed servant at court.

Ignorant assumption, given the likelihood of black/mixed servants in the court of Mecklenburg was less than zero.

It's possible. Portugal , Spain, and Italy had a decent amount of Moors back then. The De Medici's were less ashamed of their Moor heritage it seems.

R11 Uh, no. Portugal, Spain and Italy had all been conquered/occupied by Muslims, who brought a few black slaves with them. "Moors" are not black Africans, they are Berbers. Muslim conquest didn't make it to Mecklinberg.

Perhaps you should investigate history rather than reinventing it.

R12 explain Alessandro de'Medici , Duke of Florence.

The racist and the gullible on here affirming the clearly false assertion she might have been a "one-drop niggress" because she had a big nose...

R13 The child of a Maghrebi (he was after all called Moor, not Ethiopian which is what they would have called a Black, particularly since recently there had been a Ethiopian diplomatic mission, and they had handed a few slaves of their own as a gift to several important lords of the peninsula), not black, slave who died assassinated with no valid offspring? Moors weren't Black although you seem to believe otherwise, only fringe retards believe they were. Furthermore, why do you want European royals to be (at least part-)Black? So Blacks can boast of having been enslaved, exploited and sold not only by African "royals" but also by "Black" European royalty? Amusing.

I'm not saying she was or wasn't and I find it unlikely BUT I've seen white people with broad noses and the "heavier" lips taking the wording from the video.

Good clues would be gotten by looking at both parents. If it's really important dig her up and do a DNA test on her.

Basque, OP. Her true given name was Princess Carlotta of the House of Humpalott.

[quote] If it's really important dig her up and do a DNA test on her.

Why would it be really important?

The chances the British monarchy would let that happen are exceptionally remote.

Not sure, but that baby on her lap looks a tad fetal alcohol syndrome-ish.

LIES! LIES I SAY! Queen Char was as pure and unsullied as the driven English snow!

Ah, my days in Mecklenburg-Strelitz, never to be forgotten!

"During the 1720s, Ghana-born Anton Wilhelm Amo was sponsored by a German duke to become the first African to attend a European university; after completing his studies, he taught and wrote in philosophy.[citation needed] Later, Africans were brought as slaves from the western coast of Africa where a number of German estates were established, primarily on the Gold Coast. After King Friedrich Wilhelm I of Prussia sold his Ghana Groß Friedrichsburg estates in Africa in 1717, from which up to 30,000 people had been sold to the Dutch East India Company, the new owners were bound by contract to "send 12 negro boys, six of them decorated with golden chains," to the king. The enslaved children were brought to Potsdam and Berlin."

I mean they had a presence in the 1700s in that area of Europe. I'm sure there were more moving about.

[quote] I mean they had a presence in the 1700s in that area of Europe. I'm sure there were more moving about.

R21 Attempting to make your point based on geographical ignorance and erroneous extrapolation. Both Potsdam and Berlin are hundreds of kilometers south of the Duchy of Mecklenburg-Schwerin. And "12 negro boys", if they actually made it to Berlin, is not within the realm of a "presence".

[quote] explain Alessandro de'Medici , Duke of Florence.

R13 Alessandro MAY have had Berber ancestors, one of the assumed reasons for his nickname, Il Mauro. As mentioned in R12, Berbers are not black Africans.

Perhaps you should investigate history, geography and local populations, instead of erroneous projection.