California governor blocks parole for Manson family member Patricia Krenwinkel

Krenwinkel has served approximately 53 years in prison, according to the governor’s office.

Boo hoo!

This beauty was responsible for the long lives of Charlie and company. The voters kicked her to the curb as soon afterward as they could but the harm continues.

She looks like the circuit geriatric who spent 5k on a gay cruise and ended up in quarantine, grinding alone on a chair arm in his leather gladiator skirt.

God I hope Gavin Newsom never gets his wish and becomes President.

Well this is shocking.

That's a man, baby!

I felt a little sorry for her. What a wasted life she has. But she should be in jail for the rest of her life for what she did.

To her credit, she was the last fame-whorey of them all. She's the only one out of the four main killers who did not release a self-serving book.

^*least

Before we shed too many tears for poor Patricia....

Krenwinkel was a participant in the murders on August 9, 1969, at 10050 Cielo Drive, home of actress Sharon Tate and her husband, director Roman Polanski. After stabbing Abigail Folger, Krenwinkel went back inside and summoned Tex Watson, who also stabbed Folger. During her trial, Krenwinkel said, "𝑰 𝒔𝒕𝒂𝒃𝒃𝒆𝒅 𝒉𝒆𝒓 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝑰 𝒌𝒆𝒑𝒕 𝒔𝒕𝒂𝒃𝒃𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒉𝒆𝒓." 𝑾𝒉𝒆𝒏 𝒂𝒔𝒌𝒆𝒅 𝒉𝒐𝒘 𝒊𝒕 𝒇𝒆𝒍𝒕, 𝑲𝒓𝒆𝒏𝒘𝒊𝒏𝒌𝒆𝒍 𝒓𝒆𝒑𝒍𝒊𝒆𝒅: "𝑵𝒐𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒏𝒈, 𝑰 𝒎𝒆𝒂𝒏, 𝒘𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒊𝒔 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆 𝒕𝒐 𝒅𝒆𝒔𝒄𝒓𝒊𝒃𝒆? 𝑰𝒕 𝒘𝒂𝒔 𝒋𝒖𝒔𝒕 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆, 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒊𝒕 𝒘𝒂𝒔 𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕."

Krenwinkel participated willingly in more murders the following night. She recounted during her December 29, 2016 parole hearing the events of the night of August 10, 1969. Along with Manson, Watson, Atkins, Clem Grogan, Leslie Van Houten, and Linda Kasabian, she went to the home of Leno and Rosemary LaBianca where she, Watson, and Van Houten murdered the couple.

When later questioned, she claimed the only thing going through her mind at the time was that "Now he won't be sending any of his children off to war." Before hitchhiking back to Spahn Ranch, the trio stayed a while in the LaBianca home — eating food, showering, and playing with the LaBiancas' two dogs.

The State of California should show as much compassion and mercy for Krenwinkel as Krenwinkel showed for the people she murdered.

What is she going to do? Beat someone to death with her walker or strangle them with her call button cord.

She was one of Charlie's favorites because she was loyal and she knew how to keep her mouth shut unlike those two blabbermouths, Atkins, and to a lesser extend, LVH.

The families have had to live with their grief for a lifetime.

Think about that.

Is she a psychopath or did she fall into a cult mentality with the help of drugs or ?

Rot in hell Krenie. She is lucky even to be alive.

We have innumerable threads on DL about criminals who committed lesser crimes, like the recent protesters, who DLers very seriously say deserve the death penalty.

That's why I don't have any patience for these threads about how the Manson cult members should be let out of prison now. I don't see any of you on those other threads, telling people off for saying that someone who spilled milk in a protest should be literally executed for their crime. But you're over here, sobbing your hearts out for this murderer, for some reason.

I approve of this decision. Another Newsom win. Let that murderer stay where her totally voluntary actions landed her.

Why such a whiny bitch, OP? None of these evil fucks deserve to see freedom EVER.

Her only exit from prison should be in a Body Bag,

Witch!

The people who want Krenwinkel released would party if Trump were assassinated. So staunchly against the death penalty but not always.

Not 100% true r23

Again with this OP?

Why would someone who took someone's life ever get paroled in the first place?

You take a life, you give up your life.

Is there a world where any of them get released? Tex was recently denied parole in Oct 2021 and LVH in April 2022. Squeaky was paroled in 2009 but it seems so far she was the only one.

Good.

I am against the death penalty on principled grounds. But in exchange for doing away with the death penalty we put some people in prison for life. That’s the deal.

There is such a thing as killing the wrong people.

I'm not sure exactly what R30 means. Who are the right people?

Oh we agree OP! Time changes everything.

Every time we have one of these "oh the poor, poor Manson killers still stuck in prison" threads, I like to remember that by all rights, they should have all been executed back in the early 70s. So Patty, Leslie and the rest should be grateful they're still alive 50 years later. Their victims, unfortunately, can't do the same.

I've never understood why she's no longer a threat to society should even enter into it. I mean yeah she's at her age probably no going to enter into a cult and engage in brutal murders but she should be set free because of it? What is the reason behind that?

R34, Americans are often of the opinion that people who do really terrible things should be thrown in a hole and never allowed to crawl out again. I have to admit that I often feel that way despite my political leanings.

But in many parts of the world, no matter how bad the thing you’ve done is, it’s considered to be fundamentally inhumane to give someone a life sentence. (And forget about capital punishment, that’s considered completely BARBARIC.)

Consider if you would the case of Anders Breivik, the rightwing Norwegian mass murderer. Despite the ghastly nature of his crime, he was only sentenced to 21 years in prison, and even then the law provided for a hearing to determine if he could be paroled after ten years! Now, I’ve read several times that the Norwegians will never let him out, and apparently they have some discretion to keep him imprisoned after the 21 year sentence is up (or do they? Rather confusing) but the idea that he wasn’t just thrown into a dungeon and the key thrown away is just unimaginable to me as an American.

None of these cold-blooded killers should have been up for parole in the first place.

They were spared the death penalty, that should have been enough.

R5 would rather have fat homophobe Ron de Santis as president

R35, and Norway has a much lower crime rate than America. Looks like "tough on crime" policies don't lead to less crime....

R23, people like you claim to be "pro life"....but you love the death penalty. And you don't really believe abortion is murder, as long as the person getting the abortion is the mistress of a Republican

Good. She should be thanking her lucky stars that she wasn't executed, which is what she deserved. May she rot.

Thank you Mr Newsom

[qoute] Is she a psychopath or did she fall into a cult mentality with the help of drugs or ?

She was obviously very sick minded before she met Charlie, as were all of the Manson family who killed for him. Manson asked quite a few of his followers to kill for him. Some did; some didn't. In ""Helter Skelter" Vincent Bugliosi said that Tex Watson, Patricia Krenwinkle, Susan Atkins and Leslie Van Houten "had a hostility and rage in them that pre-=existed Charles Manson." He went on: "there had to be something special about these people that caused them to kill. Some inner flaw. Apart from Charlie."

Hair like that should remain behind bars for its full sentence.

Murderers have the lowest recidivism rate of any kind of criminal. And females have lower recidivism rates than males.

Why are you so scared of an old lady?

[quote] Why are you so scared of an old lady?

Three have been plenty of murderous old ladies. This old lady took particular joy in butchering her victims. She needs to rot behind bars. It's all she deserves.

Some crimes are so offensive to the community that they will never be paroled, nor should they be paroled. The Manson murders are a situation like that. Charlie himself didn't kill Sharon Tate or any of the victims during that time. He may have killed some guy named Shorty in the desert but I don't know. The idea of Charles Manson being paroled would have sent the community insane. He was where he belonged and he died where he belonged.

These old ladies who keep trying to get out are dreaming. They'll never, ever be released. Deal with reality, Manson girls.

As an old lady she has her prayers. She can have those.

I auditioned for a movie called “Manson Girls” 10 years ago. Not sure what became of it. And no, being 74 doesn’t mean she isn’t capable of murder. Don’t let her out.

Even though she was the most brutal of the three ladies, I don't think she would've killed had she not met Charlie -- I think she would've led an anonymous frau lifestyle. Whereas with Atkins and LVH, I think they would've fallen in line behind some other bad dude.

Good.

Newsom is not going to release her. She's not black.

Oh riiiight. Newsom is such a victim's advocate. Don't make me laugh.

He's such a political whore.

What Krenwinkel and Van Houten thought and did at 19 is not who they are at 73, 74 according to the parole board.

Enough. Release them. They are not a threat to society. I like Newsom, but he gave a bullshit excuse about being a danger. This was a political excuse on his part. The parole board and psychiatrists determined otherwise saying they both have shown sufficient remorse; they are not the same people as they were more than 50 years ago, and they are not a harm to society. Release them.

[quote]Why are you so scared of an old lady?

I'm not scared of an old lady. I just think this particular old lady should serve out the life sentence she was lucky to receive when her execution was invalidated by the Supreme Court in 1972. If not for that, she would have been gassed long ago and we wouldn't be having this conversation 50 years later. She can leave prison the same way her victims left their homes - in a body bag.

[quote] Enough. Release them. They are not a threat to society.

How do know what they'd do if they got out? They've proven themselves merciless killers, so who knows what they'd do if somebody offended them. Maybe you're just trolling or maybe you are a pathetic fool who thinks criminals who commit heinous crimes should be released from prison, but one thing is clear; you are a stupid shit. '

The Manson girls should just do everyone a favor and find a way to commit suicide. That would stop all this parole nonsense.

[quote] The Manson girls should just do everyone a favor and find a way to commit suicide.

This sounds a bit extreme. They committed horrible crimes, yes, but they were sentenced in a court of law, and they are doing their time.

bitch killer !

[quote] it’s considered to be fundamentally inhumane to give someone a life sentence. (And forget about capital punishment, that’s considered completely BARBARIC.)

No more so than surgically removing a cancerous tumor. Messy and unpleasant perhaps so some types instead prefer faith healing.

If he would be honest about his reason for denying parole I'd have respect for him. This is farcical.

R56, hardly any killers kill again. Especially female ones. And elderly ones.

R46, I'm guessing maybe .003% of killers are elderly females

100% of executed killers never kill again.

R64, yes! We must strive to be China, North Korea, or the Middle East.

I don’t want this bitch running around CA stabbing people in the face. She should die in jail.

'They are not a threat to society.'

And exactly what the fuck should have this to do with anything? So they should be released and feted by all the fucking sickos in this country like John Waters? And yes if she had been executed none of this bullshit would exist today and the continuing torture of survivors which people against the death penalty enjoy immensely would not be happening.

I’m pissed off, how much money has been wasted housing these worthless cunts? They should have been electrocuted decades ago.

[quote] hardly any killers kill again. Especially female ones. And elderly ones.

You are full of shit. Go kiss Krenwinkel is just as capable of murder now as she was then. Go kiss her wrinkled old lady ass.

How about OP the cunty smelling troll, swap places with this murderous cunt, and the killer can live with OP's family?

They all should have been turned to dust. That being said, the crimes they committed were so heinous and cast a dark cloud over an entire following era. They need to rot.

Being old doesn't lessen the viciousness of her crime - no matter how long ago it was.

Frankly, she should never have been eligible for parole in the first place. It should always have been life without the possibility of parole.

Of course, she's going to SAY that she's remorseful after spending 50 years in prison. However, no one can ever know whether she regrets her crime or simply regrets being caught, convicted, and incarcerated for 50 years.

Remember, the first couple times any of them came up for parole, there was not an ounce of contrition for what they had done.

Why would anyone pity her? Why would anyone think she's "suffered" enough? No, she has not suffered at all in comparison to the pain, terror, and suffering of her victims. The reality is that whatever she's had to deal with in prison is nothing compared to what her victims suffered.

[quote] Why would anyone pity her? Why would anyone think she's "suffered" enough?

There are a lot of really stupid people in the world. Really stupid people who weep for killers. Their stupidity is off the charts.

Is it too late to hang her?

She got old on me.

Charlie said something funny about Susan Atkins. He said that after she had her baby and "lost her shape" he "couldn't care less about her." Imagine he felt the same way about Krenwinkle, that is, he couldn't care less about her. And she killed for him. Anybody that sick needs to locked up forever.

[quote] Imagine he felt the same way about Krenwinkle, that is, he couldn't care less about her.

I don't think Charlie favored PK for her beauty and sensuality. But she was a favorite of his because she was a very loyal and devoted henchwoman to him. Krenwinkel wouldn't speak out against Charlie until 1994, whereas Atkins and LVH had already dropped him by the late 1970s!

PK feels autistic. The other two are….not.

If she were truly remorseful she would give up seeking parole, stop torturing the survivors, and help other female prisoners with lesser crimes with counseling and education.

The product of her times. If she had met different people she would be a real estate agent in Beverly Hills with two rentals and be a part of the Boomer Extractor Class.

[quote]He said that after she had her baby and "lost her shape" he "couldn't care less about her." Imagine he felt the same way about Krenwinkle, that is, he couldn't care less about her.

I seriously doubt that looks had anything to do with why Manson recruited her.

[quote]Patricia Krenwinkel was born on December 3, 1947 in Los Angeles, California, to an insurance-salesman father and a homemaker mother. She attended University High School and then Westchester High School, both in the Los Angeles area. Patricia was often bullied at school by other students, suffered from low self-esteem, and was frequently teased for being overweight and for an excessive growth of body hair caused by an endocrine condition.

[quote]After her parents divorced, seventeen-year-old Krenwinkel remained in Los Angeles with her father until she graduated from Westchester High School. For a time she taught Catechism (Roman Catholic religious instruction) and considered becoming a nun. She decided to attend the Jesuit college Spring Hill College in Mobile, Alabama. Within one semester, however, she dropped out and moved back to California. Moving into her half-sister's apartment in Manhattan Beach, she found an office job as a processing clerk.

[quote]She met Charles Manson in Manhattan Beach in 1967, along with Lynette Fromme and Mary Brunner. In later interviews, Krenwinkel stated that she had sex with Manson the first night they met, and that he was the first person who told her she was beautiful. Mesmerized by Manson's charisma and starved for attention, she decided to go to San Francisco with him and the other two girls, leaving behind her apartment, car, and last paycheck.

Sounds more like, if she had been born in the 21st century, she'd still be in jail, but this time, for a mass shooting at some school.

she was severely dickmatized