The Politically Incorrect Past

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If you're fine with this, then you're fine with all of it. Are you fine with all of the politically incorrect past?

I’m fine with it.

If we're fine with what, OP's alternative history fanfic? Nobody cares.

Is this the same politically incorrect past that assumed all gay men were pedophiles, deviants, etc.?

I know Millennials get blamed for a lot, but I'm one and feel like it's actually the Gen Zs who are overwhelmingly overly sensitive.

I don't find Rue McClanahan's comments offensive. I'm not bothered by old-school portrayals of gay people or gay jokes. There's obviously a difference between transvestites and transexuals, yet the former has been almost eradicated because these cross-dressers now identify as "real" women. It's all got very weird and angry, and [italic]context[/italic] doesn't seem to matter any more.

For example, cancel culture runs amok these days, and people have no problem about banning people they don't agree with. It's obsessive and dangerous.

No one would care now. OP is really "reaching" with trying to stir up the usual right wing nonsense.

OP has some cognitive issues. He clearly does not understand what is being said in the interview if he thinks McClanahan would have been booed.

Today, she would have been applauded and Rivers would have commented that Joan of Arc's story shows why we need support for transgender and non-binary youth.

Was Jeanne d'Arc burned because she demanded to be called a they/them?

[quote] But I much prefer the openness of the past

You’re out of your goddamn mind.

Trannies are resoundingly hated by all.

OPs clip looks more like propaganda. The lesbian topic was discussed way too detailed and didn't feel random at all and even if Joan Ark of Noah was mentioned in a negative way, her lesbianic crossdresser weirdness was highlighted redardless of that. Are there more clips from that time period that slowly introduced tv audiences to more lgb stuff in order to normalize it? This could be the beginnings of what paved the way for the TQ+ weirdness we see today with all the trans kids. Can't say for sure though cause I wasn't alive when that interview was aired.

Hon when it comes to history I trust Blanche.

OP’s new book ‘Only Schizophrenic Crossdressing Sluts Go to Shady Pines: The Current State of Society and Political Correctness through the lens of The Golden Girls’ is coming soon

R6, Many people today still believe gay men are pedophiles and deviants. The difference back then was gays didn't fall apart emotionally every time someone said something they didn't like. I'm sure many butch women who watched Rue's interview back in 1987 didn't agree with her but lesbians were stronger back then. Today, they would call the thought police and have Rue arrested. We live in a victim culture and that's what changed. You can't do anything today from fear of offending a certain group. The result is a destruction of the mind of so-called "oppressed" people. Most are weak and pathetic and can't take criticism. You have to agree with them, love them, worship them and talk about how great they are OR ELSE!! Non-heterosexuals weren't losers in 1987, but they are now.

[quote] The difference back then was gays didn't fall apart emotionally every time someone said something they didn't like.

Yeah. That's what happens these days.

I wasn't upset about that interview at all OP. I think you made it out to be more than what it was.

Here she is with Betty =

[quote]The difference back then was gays didn't fall apart emotionally every time someone said something they didn't like.

Because what were they going to say in 1987? Gay men were dying. There was no support system on a national level. People could lose their jobs and way of life for speaking out and complaining about those things. You want to go back to the way things were in 1987 because in your warped mind things were better when everyone knew when to shut up and not rock the boat for their own safety and well being. I wish I had a time machine, because I'd send you back there myself, you fucking idiot.

Interesting that she says Betty is the one to go off book first and Bea the last, when there’s been so much discussion (now) that Bea prided herself on knowing her lines down pat and couldn’t stand when Betty would waste time dicking around and screwing up.

So which is it?

R20 said "You want to go back to the way things were in 1987 because in your warped mind things were better when everyone knew when to shut up and not rock the boat for their own safety and well being." Ahaha, because people don't have to shut up today and not rock the boat for their own safety and well being???? People can't be canceled today, fired and attacked for saying the wrong thing? You fucking idiot. Yes, please invent a time machine and send me back to 1987. That's exactly what I want. People had a fucking life in 1987. They didn't spend their time analyzing every single thing every single person said.

[quote] They didn't spend their time analyzing every single thing every single person said.

They fired you if they THOUGHT you were a faggot. Your family tossed you onto the street if you were caught looking at a boy. If you came down with AIDS they said, "Good."

On behalf of every gay man of my generation who fought and died so you could feel safe and free, FUCK YOU.

R23 but did the family insert the aids in him or did the gayling get it because he didn't buy condoms?

Zsa Zsa: "My husband beat me, but I deserved it".

[quote]Rivers would have commented that Joan of Arc's story shows why we need support for transgender and non-binary youth

You have got to be fucking kidding me.

R23, don’t forget to add that in many states (and countries that have since made a u-turn), you could end up in jail if you were found guilty of “sodomy” (legal definitions varied). And if you didn’t end up in jail, you were certainly open to blackmail.

Our present situation stinks, sure, but the past was much worse. I can put up with a bit of political correctness if it means I don’t have to hide the fact that I’m living with someone of the same sex.

OP, we just don't care what you think.

R23 Calm down and stop being hysterical, it wasn’t all like that and you certainly don’t speak for me.

Then you’re an idiot, r29.

R29 I don’t know what kind of a shit hole ghetto you grew up in, but the 80’s certainly weren’t like what you described for me. Maybe just try speaking for yourself instead of just assuming that millions of gay men had the same experiences that you had. And please, angry and dramatic is not a good combination.

^^ That was meant for R30.

[quote] And please, angry and dramatic is not a good combination.

Neither is fat, stupid, and drunk, but here you are.

R27, a little bit of political correctness? LOL. Yes, we have progressed so much since 1987. Women no longer have abortion rights in the US. Transwomen can now compete in women's sports because they are "women" and nobody can say a damn thing about it. Even some shelters for battered women have been shut down because they weren't inclusive of transwomen. Things have improved for gays and lesbians? You are now viewed as dinosaurs. White gay men a now part of the evil white patriarchy who presses trans people and people of color. Lesbians need to get their boobs chopped off and suck trans dick or shut the fuck up. Gay men need to learn to love trans snatch or they're transphobic. Americans and Canadians have been significantly impoverished since 1987. Obesity has increased dramatically since that time too and so has mental illness and homelessness. Multinational corportations have taken over the world. Illiteracy rates have skyrocketed. Music, tv shows and movies suck. People now live their lives almost exclusively online. What's being said on twitter is the most important thing ever! We now eat GMO foods. There's more poverty and slavery in the world than ever before. There's no culture because of technology and political correctness. I could go on and on but my point is R23, we could have solved the issues gays were going through in the 80s without destroying the whole fucking world. Things are better for you now? Good but everything else is horrible. That's not a good trade-off.

Classic Carol Burnett skit (2:20)

[quote]Interesting that she says Betty is the one to go off book first and Bea the last, when there’s been so much discussion (now) that Bea prided herself on knowing her lines down pat and couldn’t stand when Betty would waste time dicking around and screwing up. So which is it?

R21, I don’t understand your question. Both are true.

You know that “off-book” means you’ve memorized the script, right? Not that you didn’t say what’s in the script. Rue was saying Betty learned her lines the quickest, Bea the slowest.

R34, the discussion was about the ability to say things without repercussions. On that measure, things are not much worse.

R33 See there you go again, seething with rage and anger, you even type angry. The reason that people didn’t like you in the 80’s is the same reason that people don’t like you now, it’s not because you are gay, but simply because there is nothing about you to like. Get help, it’s out there.

[quote] You know that “off-book” means you’ve memorized the script, right? Not that you didn’t say what’s in the script. Rue was saying Betty learned her lines the quickest, Bea the slowest.

Of course I do. That’s my point. In Bea’s eyes (supposedly) Betty cost them time and wasn’t a “the-a-tre trained professional actress,” and yet apparently she was the first one to have her lines down. And I remember Rue saying that in her book as well (she said something like “well she clearly must be a witch” for getting her lines down that fast)

[quote] seething with rage and anger

Quoting one of the funniest lines from Animal House is seething with rage and anger? OK.