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20 Worse People Who Ever Lived According to UK’s The Guardian. 4 Are Women.

Hilter and Stalin Are Givens. Please read the banner correctly. Not the usual tyrants, who kill off their people and civilizations, though of course some of those are on the list, but the worse, WORSE PEOPLE who ever lived.

Please try your hand at naming the other 18, and extra gold stars if you name any of the women. I know my history, and frankly, I've never heard of them. the woman, that is. Usually, books, musicals, and movies place them in the world's consciousness. Apparently not mine. I'll post the entire list if I get 20 responses. Keep checking back. Try to list more than one. And don't be cute and name current and ex-presidents of the U.S.

by Anonymousreply 144October 9, 2022 12:26 PM

[quote]worse, WORSE PEOPLE

Of which you appear to be a shining example OP

by Anonymousreply 1October 7, 2022 9:51 PM

[quote] I'll post the entire list if I get 20 responses.

No need to bother OP.

by Anonymousreply 2October 7, 2022 9:52 PM

Margaret Thatcher?

by Anonymousreply 3October 7, 2022 9:54 PM

Leona Helmsley?

by Anonymousreply 4October 7, 2022 9:54 PM

Countess Elizabeth Bathory?

Catherine de Medici?

Salome?

by Anonymousreply 5October 7, 2022 9:54 PM

Meghan Markle

by Anonymousreply 6October 7, 2022 9:55 PM

Rosemary West

by Anonymousreply 7October 7, 2022 9:55 PM

Always hated that fucker Rose West

by Anonymousreply 8October 7, 2022 9:55 PM

R7 snap!

by Anonymousreply 9October 7, 2022 9:55 PM

Who's that whore of Hitler?

by Anonymousreply 10October 7, 2022 9:56 PM

Meghan, Duchess of Sussex

by Anonymousreply 11October 7, 2022 9:57 PM

Eva Braun. Not defending her, but wasn’t she kind of an apolitical airhead?

by Anonymousreply 12October 7, 2022 9:57 PM

You guessed one R5....Elizabeth Bathory, and stop with the cutesy bullshit like R6. Not counting that one

by Anonymousreply 13October 7, 2022 9:58 PM

Wasn't Bathroy set up by her enemies to get her land?

by Anonymousreply 14October 7, 2022 9:59 PM

Madonna

by Anonymousreply 15October 7, 2022 9:59 PM

Bertrand Russell?

by Anonymousreply 16October 7, 2022 9:59 PM

Eva Peron

by Anonymousreply 17October 7, 2022 9:59 PM

Barbra Streisand

by Anonymousreply 18October 7, 2022 9:59 PM

Belle Guness

Myra Hindley

by Anonymousreply 19October 7, 2022 10:00 PM

Miss Helen Lawson

by Anonymousreply 20October 7, 2022 10:00 PM

CHILDREN! Not counting the cutesy current names. I'll make this more meaningful. There is only one woman post WW2 who is on the list.

by Anonymousreply 21October 7, 2022 10:00 PM

Imelda Marcos

by Anonymousreply 22October 7, 2022 10:01 PM

Bloody Mary?

by Anonymousreply 23October 7, 2022 10:01 PM

Bertrand: you are well past your prime. Spill your guts already.

by Anonymousreply 24October 7, 2022 10:02 PM

R16...who obviously don't know your history if you don't know who I am

by Anonymousreply 25October 7, 2022 10:03 PM

Leni R.

by Anonymousreply 26October 7, 2022 10:03 PM

That old fucker who tortured that teen Sylvia Likens with her inbred kids

by Anonymousreply 27October 7, 2022 10:04 PM

Oh, I know who you are r25.

An irrelevant old queen.

by Anonymousreply 28October 7, 2022 10:05 PM

Katherine Knight

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by Anonymousreply 29October 7, 2022 10:05 PM

Thomas Telford was a man who built roads.

An idiot Guardian journalist in June 2018 maintained that men who built roads designed them in order to kill women.

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by Anonymousreply 30October 7, 2022 10:06 PM

No, R24. Too many brats are responding. Once I get serious contenders, I will list.

by Anonymousreply 31October 7, 2022 10:06 PM

Erna?

by Anonymousreply 32October 7, 2022 10:06 PM

How can there only be 4 women when there are 6 Kardashian/Jenner women? 7, if you count Caitlyn

by Anonymousreply 33October 7, 2022 10:06 PM

[quote]Once I get serious contenders, I will list.

OP has stated her boundaries!

by Anonymousreply 34October 7, 2022 10:07 PM

Karen

by Anonymousreply 35October 7, 2022 10:07 PM

So, you're a liar r31.

by Anonymousreply 36October 7, 2022 10:08 PM

Marine LePen?

by Anonymousreply 37October 7, 2022 10:08 PM

Bertrand Russell was a genius of his time and even more relevant now

by Anonymousreply 38October 7, 2022 10:08 PM

Le Pen*

by Anonymousreply 39October 7, 2022 10:08 PM

Georgia Engel

by Anonymousreply 40October 7, 2022 10:09 PM

OP, don’t be modest. You’re on the list, aren’t you?

by Anonymousreply 41October 7, 2022 10:09 PM

Billy Eichner

by Anonymousreply 42October 7, 2022 10:13 PM

The Guardian hates Nigel Farage.

The Guardian hates almost everybody.

by Anonymousreply 43October 7, 2022 10:14 PM

I’m guessing such a list doesn’t really exist because it’s still not posted

by Anonymousreply 44October 7, 2022 10:14 PM

The Guardian hates Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro.

by Anonymousreply 45October 7, 2022 10:16 PM

I'm still recovering from her Majesty's passing. Please don't make my blood boil with all this foolery. I've asked very politely to take this list seriously, and NO, R44, there is a list. I'm waiting for the children to be put to bed.

by Anonymousreply 46October 7, 2022 10:17 PM

That filthy whore cocksucker Dottie Hinkle

by Anonymousreply 47October 7, 2022 10:17 PM

This is not a scam. It is real.

by Anonymousreply 48October 7, 2022 10:18 PM

Perhaps it is not a scam r48.

by Anonymousreply 49October 7, 2022 10:20 PM

My bitch friend, Julie.

by Anonymousreply 50October 7, 2022 10:20 PM

The Guardian hates Enoch Powell.

Powell warned that Britain was going down the drain and he was right.

by Anonymousreply 51October 7, 2022 10:21 PM

How about idi Amin

Jimmy Savile has to be on the list

by Anonymousreply 52October 7, 2022 10:22 PM

Yes, R52!! Idi Amin is on the list. I'm trying to convince everyone out there, this is a legitimate list. Now please be serious, and I will post the list shortly, but not while I have yahoos interrrupting.

by Anonymousreply 53October 7, 2022 10:27 PM

Madame Mao, Ayn Rand, and Joan Crawford

by Anonymousreply 54October 7, 2022 10:28 PM

Madame Mao?? Was Mao a crossdresser?

by Anonymousreply 55October 7, 2022 10:30 PM

[quote]I'm still recovering from her Majesty's passing.

MARY!

by Anonymousreply 56October 7, 2022 10:30 PM

I'm sure The Guardian hates Harold MacMillan.

Britain turned itself into Welfare State in the 50s. And Harold MacMillan went on TV and said to the people "You Never had It So Good".

He was right but the proletariate don't like hearing the truth that a once-proud nation had turnied into work-shy welfare slobs.

by Anonymousreply 57October 7, 2022 10:31 PM

Rupert Murdoch

by Anonymousreply 58October 7, 2022 10:32 PM

Ranavalona I

by Anonymousreply 59October 7, 2022 10:32 PM

Re R30

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by Anonymousreply 60October 7, 2022 10:34 PM

Warning again. No frivious names, please. You are only delaying the release of names I'm sure some on DL want to know. It will open up a new discussion, I'm sure.

by Anonymousreply 61October 7, 2022 10:34 PM

Pol Pot Slobodan Milosevic Katie Hopkins

by Anonymousreply 62October 7, 2022 10:38 PM

I bet The Graun hates King Charles I.

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by Anonymousreply 63October 7, 2022 10:38 PM

Well now, things are heating up. Yes, R62...Pol Pot

by Anonymousreply 64October 7, 2022 10:40 PM

[quote] Katie Hopkins

The Guardian would be too scared to name a living person who could sue them and deplete their ever-diminishing wealth.

by Anonymousreply 65October 7, 2022 10:40 PM

Ilse Koch

by Anonymousreply 66October 7, 2022 10:43 PM

Jim Jones

by Anonymousreply 67October 7, 2022 10:45 PM

I'd be surprised if there was a list. Well played OP!

by Anonymousreply 68October 7, 2022 10:46 PM

R66, Close

by Anonymousreply 69October 7, 2022 10:50 PM

^ Karl-Otto Koch

by Anonymousreply 70October 7, 2022 10:56 PM

Alright you.........airheads, birdbrains, blockheads, boneheads, bubbleheads, chowderheads, chuckleheads, clodpolls (or clodpoles), clots [British], clucks, clunks, cretins, cuddies [British dialect], deadheads, dim bulbs [slang], dimwits, dips, dodoes (or dodos), dolts, donkeys, doofuses (also dufuses) [slang], dopes, dorks [slang], dullards, dumbbells, dumbheads, dum-dums, dummies, dummkopfs, dunces, dunderheads, fatheads, ganders, golems, goofs, goons, half-wits, hammerheads, hardheads, ignoramuses (also ignorami), imbeciles, jackasses, know-nothings, knuckleheads, lamebrains, loggerheads [chiefly dialect], loons, lumps, lunkheads, meatheads, momes [archaic], morons, mugs [chiefly British], mutts, naturals, nimrods [slang], nincompoops, ninnies, ninnyhammers, nits [chiefly British], nitwits, noddies, noodles, numskulls (or numbskulls), oafs, pinheads, prats [British], ratbags [chiefly Australian], sapheads, schlubs (also shlubs) [slang], schnooks [slang], simpletons, stocks, stupes, stupids, thickheads, turkeys, woodenheads, yahoos, yo-yos, who didn't take this thread seriously. Go to the next thread for the big reveal

by Anonymousreply 71October 7, 2022 10:59 PM

I didn't want to wait till Shavuos! Here's the list, have at it: Jim Jones Amelia Dyer Delphine LaLaurie Osama Bin Laden Elizabeth Bathory Ivan The Terrible Idi Amin Attila The Hun Caligula Nero Kim Jong-IL Saddam Hussein Biljana Plavsic Leopold The Second Mao Zedong Genghis Khan Vlad The Impaler Pol Pot Stalin Hitler

by Anonymousreply 72October 7, 2022 11:02 PM

My next thread is the one about Charlie Puth being horny R71

by Anonymousreply 73October 7, 2022 11:04 PM

I feel suddenly deflated, Bertrand.

Was this list from the American Guardian or British Guardian?

by Anonymousreply 74October 7, 2022 11:06 PM

Could somebody post the link, PLEASE!!!

by Anonymousreply 75October 7, 2022 11:07 PM

[quote]Go to the next thread for the big reveal

Yeah.

Yeah. I'll be sure to do that.

by Anonymousreply 76October 7, 2022 11:08 PM

How did mother Theresa not make this? She was a real Cooke when the cameras weren’t around

by Anonymousreply 77October 7, 2022 11:09 PM

This is another list from the annoying guardian newspaper.

Lists are an easy way to fill up space in a newspaper with lazy journalists.

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by Anonymousreply 78October 7, 2022 11:14 PM

Hitler, Stalin, Prince Henry, Barbara Walters.

by Anonymousreply 79October 7, 2022 11:16 PM

Couldn’t you at least have used proper format, OP?

And why weren’t Nikolai Ceaușescu and his horrid wife Elena on there?

by Anonymousreply 80October 7, 2022 11:21 PM

Pol Pot.

by Anonymousreply 81October 7, 2022 11:24 PM

Can you please instruct me on the proper format, R80? Thank you

by Anonymousreply 82October 7, 2022 11:37 PM

The Unholy Trio : Dean Corll, Randy Kraft, John Wayne Gacy

by Anonymousreply 83October 7, 2022 11:40 PM

R82 Dear Bertrand, you have to insert some kind of punctuation mark such as a comma, stop or em dash and then press the Return Button twice.

by Anonymousreply 84October 7, 2022 11:44 PM

Mary Tudor (Bloody Mary). Myra Hindley. Rose West. Elizabeth Báthory.

by Anonymousreply 85October 7, 2022 11:45 PM

My dear R84, I thank ye.

by Anonymousreply 86October 7, 2022 11:50 PM

The Virgin Mary she started all this crazy shit.

by Anonymousreply 87October 7, 2022 11:53 PM

The first tiny meat trans. Sorry I don't know it's name.

by Anonymousreply 88October 7, 2022 11:54 PM

Bloody Mary was a religious zealot who was half mad, not deliberately evil

Where's the horny Charlie Puth thread?

by Anonymousreply 89October 7, 2022 11:54 PM

Jiang Qing—“Madame Mao,” Mao’s fourth wife—and Mother Theresa really belong there. They were not garden-variety sadists; they were philosophically evil. Qing was a major force behind everything Mao did, but independently was a major force in the horrifying Cultural Revolution. Mother Theresa ruthlessly exploited the poor for her own ends, rejoiced in their suffering, and was (almost) universally lauded for it.

by Anonymousreply 90October 7, 2022 11:58 PM

I'm surprised Lavrentiy Beria, Stalin's ruthless head of the secret police, was every bit as genocidal as Stalin. He also carried on a side business as a prolific serial rapist and possibly serial killer.

by Anonymousreply 91October 8, 2022 12:10 AM

Let me try this sentence again:

I'm surprised Lavrentiy Beria, Stalin's ruthless head of the secret police who was every bit as genocidal as Stalin, isn't on the list.

by Anonymousreply 92October 8, 2022 12:12 AM

Is this like the tik-toks "click for part 2"?

by Anonymousreply 93October 8, 2022 12:15 AM

Lori Lightfoot

by Anonymousreply 94October 8, 2022 12:17 AM

Everyone in this thread seems to have misread the OP.

The OP isn't asking specifically for females.

by Anonymousreply 95October 8, 2022 12:21 AM

R94 for the win.

by Anonymousreply 96October 8, 2022 12:26 AM

So about it? Amelia Dyer and Delphine LaLaurie. never heard of them, have you?

by Anonymousreply 97October 8, 2022 12:40 AM

R95, we’re not misreading OP, who specifically highlighted the inclusion of women in his thread title. It’s interesting to try to think of women who wouldn’t be purely token nominees in this category.

by Anonymousreply 98October 8, 2022 12:49 AM

It is a tough one, r98, because once you start picking a couple of serial killers, are the female serial killers really worse than all the male serial killers in history. It does seem like "find me a couple of women to put on this list."

by Anonymousreply 99October 8, 2022 12:58 AM

WTF no...

HUNTER BIDEN !

by Anonymousreply 100October 8, 2022 1:07 AM

The Mongol Empire episode(s) of Dan Carlin’s Hardcore History really get into just how awful it was to have been on the losing side of Genghis Khan’s conquests.

His army would get the populations of entire cities to line up and be slaughtered with swords, one by one. The carnage was unimaginable.

by Anonymousreply 101October 8, 2022 1:11 AM

R92, I agree with you, Beria is outstanding candidate for this list.

by Anonymousreply 102October 8, 2022 1:12 AM

Harry Truman

by Anonymousreply 103October 8, 2022 1:15 AM

The slave torturing bitch must be on the list.

Right?

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by Anonymousreply 104October 8, 2022 1:19 AM

YES.....refer to the list.......R72

by Anonymousreply 105October 8, 2022 2:29 AM

Here's the list, have at it — properly formatted (I think)

Jim Jones

Amelia Dyer

Delphine LaLaurie

Osama Bin Laden

Elizabeth Bathory

Ivan The Terrible

Idi Amin

Attila The Hun

Caligula

Nero

Kim Jong-IL

Saddam Hussein

Biljana Plavsic

King Leopold

The Second Mao Zedong

Genghis Khan

Vlad The Impaler

Pol Pot

Stalin

Hitler

by Anonymousreply 106October 8, 2022 2:50 AM

*minor correction*

King Leopold the Second

Mao Zedong

NOW do you see the importance of proper formatting, Bertrand?

by Anonymousreply 107October 8, 2022 2:54 AM

Donald Trump

by Anonymousreply 108October 8, 2022 3:02 AM

Robert Mugabe

At least Saddam was wrongly accused of possessing WMD

by Anonymousreply 109October 8, 2022 3:30 AM

Bravo, Bertrand!

And will stick us around and tell us about how you prophesied the Woke Generation and their middle-class belief in the superior virtue of the oppressed.

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by Anonymousreply 110October 8, 2022 3:33 AM

Who’s the worst gay ?

by Anonymousreply 111October 8, 2022 3:33 AM

R 106 and R 107....Thank you kindly. You beat me to it. I was going to come back and relist it in the proper form per your instructions. Thanks again

by Anonymousreply 112October 8, 2022 5:03 AM

Ah, yes R110, one of my finer essays. Many thanks for your kind words

by Anonymousreply 113October 8, 2022 5:06 AM

Me and my main man, Georgie Orwell, saw what are contemporary useful idiots could not, ergo my essay, and his brilliant books

by Anonymousreply 114October 8, 2022 5:15 AM

Well you posted the answers before I could make my guesses, but I got three of them. Attila the Hun, Genghis Khan and Jim Jones.

I would have added the Marquis de Sade to this list.

by Anonymousreply 115October 8, 2022 5:17 AM

Hilary Clinton

by Anonymousreply 116October 8, 2022 5:21 AM

HH Holmes and his creepy freaky Murder Castle!

by Anonymousreply 117October 8, 2022 5:30 AM

I got Genghis Khan, Idi Amin, Elizabeth Bathory (though not by name), and the usual Nazis correct, plus Pol Pot

Was Alexander the Great unusually merciful to have escaped the list? His expansion was prodigious.

Amelia Dyer I'd never heard of though she murdered upwards of 400 infants. During her confession, she noted that she enjoyed watching infants die slowly as she applied the ligatures tight, but loose enough to watch the slow death of the infants suffocating.

Though she's a female, is this one of the few instances of female sado-masochism and sexual gratification upon murder? Except Bathory didn't target infsnts...

by Anonymousreply 118October 8, 2022 5:38 AM

Can someone PLEASE post the link to the article. I can’t find it.

would add Jeffrey Dahmer to that list.

by Anonymousreply 119October 8, 2022 5:40 AM

R118 Amelia Dyer sounds like a living nightmare, omg!! Why did she do this? How did she do this? Dear god that is chilling.

by Anonymousreply 120October 8, 2022 5:46 AM

[quote]20 Worse People Who Ever Lived

On the off-chance several others haven't already told you, OP:

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 121October 8, 2022 5:48 AM

I searched for the Grauniad article first thing when OP started the thread. Unless it's in the print version and delayed online, there's no such Top 20 list. There is a top 25 list on some obscure website that overlaps.

by Anonymousreply 122October 8, 2022 5:58 AM

Where's Laura Ashley?

by Anonymousreply 123October 8, 2022 6:26 AM

People who didn't go see "Bros" last weekend!

by Anonymousreply 124October 8, 2022 6:31 AM

[quote] Amelia Dyer I'd never heard of though she murdered upwards of 400 infants. During her confession, she noted that she enjoyed watching infants die slowly as she applied the ligatures tight, but loose enough to watch the slow death of the infants suffocating.

Had I but known!

by Anonymousreply 125October 8, 2022 6:32 AM

I don't think Osama bin Laden deserves the honor. It was one attack where he himself was surprised at its impact.

by Anonymousreply 126October 8, 2022 8:34 AM

But it's fairly obvious which males would have made the list, R95.

by Anonymousreply 127October 8, 2022 10:30 AM

Frieda Claxton

by Anonymousreply 128October 8, 2022 2:24 PM

Katherine of Aaragon. History treats her as a woman on principle snd conscience. I think she was selfish and stubborn . Imagine the suffering Britain would have been spared had she agreed to go quietly. Centuries of Protestant/Catholic strife might not have happened. .

by Anonymousreply 129October 8, 2022 2:33 PM

Nan Michiganwoman?

by Anonymousreply 130October 8, 2022 2:42 PM

If Ilse Koch isn't on that list, she should be.

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by Anonymousreply 131October 8, 2022 3:46 PM

Didn't Bertrand Russell take LSD as he was dying?

by Anonymousreply 132October 8, 2022 4:07 PM

What? No Empress Dowager Cixi? She was a conniving bitch.

On her deathbed she had her nephew, the emperor, poisoned.

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by Anonymousreply 133October 8, 2022 4:18 PM

Where is Irma Grese?

by Anonymousreply 134October 8, 2022 4:37 PM

[quote]...but the worse, WORSE PEOPLE who ever lived.

Worse than whom, OP?

by Anonymousreply 135October 8, 2022 4:48 PM

[quote] Bertrand Russell N.B.A. M.V.P.

R113 What do your initials mean?

National Basketball Association Most Valuable Player?

by Anonymousreply 136October 8, 2022 11:25 PM

Yes, Bill Bertrand Russell, National (N) Basketball (B) Association (A) Most (M) Valuable (V) Player (P). You got it, junior

by Anonymousreply 137October 8, 2022 11:30 PM

Hitler gets SUCH bad press.

by Anonymousreply 138October 9, 2022 12:50 AM

Joe McCarthy and Roy Cohn

by Anonymousreply 139October 9, 2022 8:54 AM

Hitler was a tribalist like all people in that era. We are judging him by modern standards where it's frowned upon to try to conquer a sovereign state. The Jews were foreigners and that simply was not accepted for most of history. He was loved by those close to him. He loved people and animals. He was a vegetarian and fought for animal rights.

by Anonymousreply 140October 9, 2022 9:28 AM

LOL at r140's intense reach for troll Valhalla 😅

by Anonymousreply 141October 9, 2022 10:00 AM

R140 lol, you crazy nut!

by Anonymousreply 142October 9, 2022 11:53 AM

How isn’t our own Mrs. Patsy Ramsey, formerly of Boulder, Colorado not on the list? Murdering one child and forever casting suspicion on another, while conveniently dying before being able to be tied to the crime?

by Anonymousreply 143October 9, 2022 12:24 PM

How isn’t Imelda Marcos here for this event alone, not to mention all the others?

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