Hurricane IAN has killed DOZENS in Florida ALONE

117 people were killed in Sandy, almost all in New York and New Jersey. What's your point, OP?

He should spend more $$$ helping people and less money trafficking migrants

What does that have to do with Ian, R2? Has he sent illegal immigrants anywhere since Ian hit?

It could have been worse OP

Op just learned about Ian today. Just stop trying.

OP is LATE

That bitch Katrina killed more

Op, you really thought you had the scoop on this? 2 other threads, dear.

Some people are limited

Hurricanes scare me, but not as much as tsunamis.

It would scare me to see several feet of water surrounding my home full of alligators, pythons and small sharks.

^ What do you think the "storm surge" is? It's literally a mountain of water that pushes ahead of the hurricane and floods everything in it's path when it comes ashore. In other words a tsunami

R12, tsunamis do not have days-long advance notice like a hurricane does. Once that ocean recedes, you have all of 10 minutes or less to get to higher ground. Or else.

^ I don't know where what you say comes from, but I've seen tsunami warnings after earthquakes in the Pacific Rim that are days out before coming ashore. You might want to check your facts

R14, tsunami waves can crest an entire Pacific Ocean within less than 24 hours. I don't know where you're getting that tsunamis afford multiple days of advance warning.

[quote] 117 people were killed in Sandy, almost all in New York and New Jersey. What's your point, OP?

R1 What's YOUR point? It's clear that OP was just highlighting the fact that many people died in the hurricane, and perhaps that number will increase. What's this "my disaster is worse than yours" attitude. You're a cunt. And by the way, Sandy claimed 233 lives, not 117.

Catastrophic storms like this result in casualties. It’s unavoidable, especially if people choose to shelter in place. Pretending like DeSantis is responsible for that is like blaming Dave Thomas because your cheeseburger is undercooked at a Denny’s in Michigan.

It’s reductive and speaks of a great deal of ignorance.

@r15, So a day's warning of a tsunami coming across the Pacific. Should be enough time to get out of the way, like a storm surge. Got it

Back to r10, the difference between a tsunami and a storm surge is the length of warning, but both can be pretty devastating

It's a free country, you cant force people to leave their homes, no matter how hard you try to warn them, they just don't take it seriously, check DL, before Ian landed in Florida, there were quite a few posts here cast the doubt on how big the storm would turn out, "underwhelming" as some predicted!

^ I've been evacuated twice for hurricanes and if you don't go the fire department pounds on your door demanding next of kin information for when they find your body. It's pretty intimidating and scary, so you're apt to go

It’s also been The Boy Who Cried Wolf in the media for a while now. It’s not entirely their fault. Sometimes dangerous seeming storms have less impact than initially projected.

The problem though is that if you’ve evacuated three or four times during these close calls, and you come home to find a little water in your basement and nothing else, you’re less likely to evacuate that next time.

And it was the next time that killed those people.

^ It's a tough call, but it's better to come home to a little water in your basement than no house at all. I lost two houses to hurricanes. I would have love to come home to a little water in the basement... BTW, there are no basements in Florida, just sayin'

Isn't the death count still being tabulated? It's possible Ian has killed thousands so I would buckle up for more bad news in the coming days.

Terrible for the families and friends of Floridians. Honestly, it puzzles me why anybody lives there.

R16 see R17. We both know what OP was trying to insinuate.

66 deaths from the hurricane in Florida so far.

I wonder if DeSantis will advise how many Americans were killed in the hurricane and how many illegals were killed. He's a moron.

I bet he's calling those migrants he stunted to Martha's Vineyard and inquiring if they have any drywall experience.

"Who do you think is going to clean up your shitty state, Mr. DeSantis?"

okAy

R25 a drop in the bucket Katrina killed over 1,800 Hurricane Katrina, tropical cyclone that struck the southeastern United States in late August 2005. The hurricane and its aftermath claimed more than 1,800 lives, and it ranked as the costliest natural disaster in U.S. history.

Those millions in the FL budget to fly migrants to northern states could come in handy right now.

I guess teachers saying Gay isn’t the major problem he made it out to be

[Quote]Those millions in the FL budget to fly migrants to northern states could come in handy right now.

The money for recovery will come from the federal government just like Sandy, Katrina and Harvey.

@r30, Obviously when a hurricane hits a major city compared to a few small cities there's going to be a big difference in casualties. Had Ian hit Miami the numbers would be much different

and obviously when people are stranded, and the evacuation is chaotic, and the levees are inadequate there will be a higher death toll

[quote]Terrible for the families and friends of Floridians. Honestly, it puzzles me why anybody lives there.

r23 it totally depends on where you live in proximity to the beaches, and to flooding. It is mostly the coastal communities that you are seeing on the news that have been levelled. Those areas are always destroyed in a direct hit. Inland you will see better conditions. Unfortunately a lot of those people on the coast are likely retired snowbirds from other states, who may have not have experienced a direct hit.

The storm path predictions also veered quite a bit in the last 2 days. The county leaders were a bit too laxed IMO...most schools in Florida didn't get closure notices until Tuesday afternoon, way too late start the shelter prep. Monday was Rosh Hashanah holiday so they should've just closed schools for the week.

SW Florida has gotten some deadly storms in the last 20 years, Charley and Irma. Charley's path was almost identical as it moved over Florida in 2004. But in 18 years time you may have a whole new set of residents.

[quote] So a day's warning of a tsunami coming across the Pacific. Should be enough time to get out of the way, like a storm surge. Got it

Tsunami waves travel across the ocean at 600mph, only slowing when they approach the shore. There is no “day’s warning” of a tsunami wave. WHEN (not if) there’s a major earthquake on the Cascadia subduction zone residents of Vancouver Island and the Oregon and WA state coasts will have just minutes to reach higher ground.

All the initial reports said hundreds killed. Sounds like a less bleak reality, though still unpleasant.

@r37, Ok I was agreeing with the person who said there's up to a days warning. for tsunamis, enough time to evacuate all but the most heavily populated coastal areas. A storm surge is every bit as deadly and destructive as a tsunami, but since the size of either varies greatly, making any kind of generalization is foolish

[quote]What does that have to do with Ian, [R2]? Has he sent illegal immigrants anywhere since Ian hit?

He couldn't since Ian made it impossible for Governor DeHumanTrafficker to get them out of TX first so he could use more of them as political pawns.

R35, the effects of Ida proved how much Louisiana improved their hurricane preparedness after Katrina. Ida struck at Category 4, stronger than Katrina’s US landfall at Category 3. But only 30 people died In Louisiana from Ida. More people died from out of state remnants of the storm than in the state that took a direct hit from the Cat 4. Mostly because they weren’t expecting what happened re: the danger of flooding. “A total of 107 deaths were attributed to Ida, including 87 in the United States and 20 in Venezuela. In the United States, 30 deaths were in Louisiana, 29 in New Jersey, 17 in New York, 5 in Pennsylvania, 2 in Mississippi, 2 in Alabama, 1 in Maryland, and 1 in Connecticut.“

I’m not sure if any other hurricane caused this much devastation long after it had ceased being a hurricane.

[quote]Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis did not immediately respond to a request for more information as to why the New Jersey contingent was turned away. Earlier this week, DeSantis thanked the governors of Tennessee, Louisiana and Alabama for their assistance.

more at link

[quote] 117 people were killed in Sandy, almost all in New York and New Jersey. What's your point, OP?

The NJ/NY area is much more dense and populous. You'd expect the NUMBER of casualities to be higher.

What exactly is the appeal of Florida anyway? It’s hot, humid, and disgusting. It has rednecks, hillbillies, and white trash as far as the eye can see. The state government is run by right wing wackos. And every year, a hurricane or two comes through and threatens to level the place. Sounds like paradise to me.

^ Parts of Florida are stunningly beautiful, but it's not worth the cost

[quote]What exactly is the appeal of Florida anyway?

For many, it's that there's no state income tax and no tax on inheritances, gifts or intangible personal property.

R47 Which is great until George Zimmerman shoots your kid and then some hurricane flattens your house trailer.

The vast majority of Floridians have been a victim of neither circumstance, R48.

r45, there are bad aspects just like anywhere...but if you've ever been on the west coast of Florida in late fall to watch the sunset, or been on the St. Johns River on a sunny winter afternoon...you will get it. I know, Mary! But its amazing, sometimes. The sunset this week after Ian passed over was breathtaking.

The MEN, Caribbean & South Americans: Jamaicans, Cubans, Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, Colombians, Nicaraguans, hot, masculine, sexually fluid a lot of times. You ain't gonna find that variety anywhere else but *maybe* New York.

The financial perks are overrated if you ask me, most properties are overpriced as has been mentioned. So there is real appeal.

[quote]I talked to my sister last night who lives near Orlando, she told me Desantis and his wife are on TV every day over and over telling people don’t send food and water donate money directly to the state instead. The person who’s in charge of the state donation fund is his wife

[quote]Who’s got oversight of that fund?🤦‍♂️. Why would you tell people not to donate food, water and clothing? Even with this going on the guy has to be defiant.

[quote]There have been Blue states NJ being one that has offered their National Guard and Desantis told them we don’t need your help

^ Does that fat fuck DeSantis have a death wish for himself and Florida? Who out there thinks his arrogance is going to help his people in their greatest time of need. Your neighbors want to help, DeSantis and you just slammed the door in their face...

Maybe Jill will bring tacos for the victims

Ike killed at least 195 people.

Harvey killed at least 100.

Sandy Killed 160 people in the US according to Wikipedia.

Blast from the recent past.

R55, only 15 hurricanes have hit New York since 1851, while 120 have hit Florida.

He could send dozens of illegals out of state but did nothing to move his own citizens.

R58, and AFTER he had imported them from TX.

Isn't this interesting, DeSantis now needs migrants for clean up. I wonder if fat boy will throw himself in front of the incoming buses

It may be months before some Southwest Florida coastal areas hammered by Hurricane Ian have their power restored, according to Florida Power & Light Co.

"We are repairing in most places outside of, right along the barrier islands and the beaches and the immediate coast line of Southwest Florida," FPL CEO Eric Silagy said Saturday night. "Those areas are going to be rebuilding, and unfortunately for those who live there, we are looking at weeks or months. Frankly, many homes and businesses will not be able to accept power when that power is restored."

Went With The Wind

Looks like Lucy DeSantis sure has a lotta splainin to do!

Has the Sanibel 20 reverted to cannibalism, yet?

DeSantis raged, in that bully voice , that Hurricane Sandy victims were being handed a free credit card if they were bailed out. He voted NO!

P.S. from R65 , President Biden, please overlook Ron DeSantis’ incredible cruelty towards Hurricane Sandy victims and send Florida the money 💰 anyway!!!

Florida ISN’T just petty bully Ron DeSantis

Florida is beautiful 🏖, Ron DeSantis is not!

I'm in the northeast and saw the storm warnings for the west coast of Florida for days before it landed. People were warned but some decided to stay by the water. Those on the barrier coast were nuts not to evacuate.

I meant barrier islands.

Will the Republican Party let BitchSantis use the term GLOBAL WARMING just for this one time?

🔥GLOBAL WARMING🔥

The world is absolutely cooking 🍳

Homestead protections, help criminals, who wanna go bankrupt and not pay their vendors. There’s a high criminal factor in this state.

So I saw the story about the woman who, together with her friends, had made a trip down there to celebrate her 40th birthday.

She was killed when the roof of the house they were renting apparently collapsed on top of them during the hurricane.

This I do not understand. Unlike people who didn't evacuate because they didn't want to leave their homes, or worried about looters, or whatever, these 4 women were tourists in the area. They didn't own the house. Presumably all they needed to do was repack up their own belongings, get into whatever car they were using and leave. If the hurricane didn't damage the area they were visiting and all was well, they could always have returned afterward to continue their vacation.

The rest of the news story had one of the other women seemingly complaining because they called 911 for help and no one came.

No shit.

I don't understand why they didn't evacuate! This makes no sense at all.

I'm sorry for anybody killed in this storm, but tourists, in particular, what reason could they possibly have for not leaving?

R74, I don’t know all the details of that particular case, but if you read the rain totals for the affected counties, there were places that got over 17 inches of rain in the hurricane; we saw what massive rainfall did in other states earlier this year. Many people who died in Florida drowned in cars that washed away.

“Elizabeth McGuire's family said they last spoke with her Wednesday and had been having trouble reaching her. They learned Friday that the 49-year-old had been found dead in her Cape Coral home. Police told her family she died in her bed holding her cell phone and it looked like she died instantly, her son Andrew Chedester said.“

The death toll of 101 is calculated by adding together the local county death tolls. The number is expected to rise as authorities are going door to door in the affected areas.

“But something else is at play: In 2011, Florida's Republican-controlled state legislature loosened decades-old state regulations meant to keep development in high-risk areas at a reasonable pace, or to discourage developers from building on low-lying wetlands, Keenan said.

Around the same time, former Gov. Rick Scott and Republican lawmakers approved a state budget that got rid of the Department of Community Affairs, a state office regulating growth and development.

"That opened the door for unrestrained development in ways that put people at a lot of risk, particularly flood risks," Keenan said.“

[quote]to discourage developers from building on low-lying wetlands...

The ongoing result of people who deny basic science - decades of science and they refuse to understand.

It doesn't matter, the insurance industry will finally put the death nail in Florida's coffin. There are already reports of insurers going belly-up and pulling out of Florida. Without insurable houses no banks will give out mortgages. Without mortgages no one will be able to sell their homes

Put a fork in it, Florida, you're done

[quote]They learned Friday that the 49-year-old had been found dead in her Cape Coral home. Police told her family she died in her bed holding her cell phone and it looked like she died instantly, her son Andrew Chedester said.

Yikes, I'm guessing the house fell on top of her. Sounds like no one in the family evacuated, which is ridiculous. They had their own businesses so they don't seem like they were struggling financially and simply couldn't leave.

^^^she was probably a witch. I wonder who got her ruby slippers.

"Yikes, I'm guessing the house fell on top of her."

We tried to warn her...

R60, That's crazy!

DeSantis sends migrants to the NE to be vindictive and God sent a hurricane. The migrants are now all going back to help clean up.

^ Yep, Karma's a bitch 😏

They were lucky they got out before the Republicans used them as human sandbags to shore up their waterfront mansions

No silly, this is October, the Republicans highly suspicious Latinoannex/outreach which comes every 2 years like clockwork ⏰

In Latinoannexation month they even let them swim in the pools they clean

@r85, How come everything Republicans do was predicted by Monty Python?

Here they are looking for dead in the wake of Ian...

R79, the insurance industry is part of the problem though. State Farm was accused of getting engineers to alter reports in Katrina. They were also the only major insurance company that wanted to dodge paying evacuation costs when Hurricane Ida hit Louisiana last year. The other companies were willing to pay claims where an evacuation hadn’t been explicitly mandated given that evacuation was clearly needed and that there hadn’t been time to officially order one given that only 74 hours passed between when the storm first developed as a tropical wave and when it became a Category 4 Hurricane. If you are vulnerable and have to get out, you know it before the exact track of the storm is certain. By the time you get an order to evacuate, evacuation itself is potentially hazardous- pouring rain, clogged roadways.

State Farm didn’t want to pay evacuation costs unless policy holders had a MANDATORY evacuation order. Not just recommended and strongly suggested but mandatory and legally required evacuation.

Gator Gator No Gator Nooooo!!

To me it seems like a scam where most of the people who are middle class and paying insurance premiums get as little as possible from the insurer. A $1500 evacuation cost would matter to a middle class family but not a rich one. So they suffer for trying to evacuate and if they stay home, the state and or federal government has to spend a huge amount of money on hundreds of water rescues or they may just die.

Who has to gain if people don’t evacuate? Do they fail to pay their mortgages because of the hurricane, so that the land can again be bought cheaply from the bank and resold at a profit again by the developer, the same waterfront land that they always make a profit on? If they don’t evacuate they are dead; they can’t make a fuss about how long it takes the insurer to pay the claim or the practical cost of living elsewhere when the home is destroyed.

[quote]I lost two houses to hurricanes.

Jesus.

I know this is very un-DL of me, but I’m truly sorry to hear that.

[quote]President Biden, please overlook Ron DeSantis’ incredible cruelty towards Hurricane Sandy victims and send Florida the money 💰 anyway!!! Florida ISN’T just petty bully Ron DeSantis

Fortunately, there’s now an adult in the White House. Can you imagine if that fat POS was still there and a hurricane hit a blue state?

2 scoops 🍨 for me, NOTHING for Blue State Hurricane crisis actors!

2 big scoops 💰💰for ME

I've got sand in my crack..

“The plaintiffs contend that State Farm violated the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, or RICO, by using the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the Illinois Republican Party, and other entities as conduits to conceal its role in funding and operating the justice’s campaign.”

@r97, Ha! I've been vindicated. On another thread I said a storm surge was a lot like a tsunami. I received a lot of push back

No surprise, State Farm has got to be the worst insurer ever. 😠

You’re tell’n me

Oceanfront property is not a good investment anywhere in the Anthropocene, but certain locations will probably hold off the inevitable longer, like Manhattan with its rocky foundation.

Japan on the other hand is fucked.

[quote]Oceanfront property is not a good investment anywhere in the Anthropocene,

What about Arizona?

Let’s not forget all the excess Covid deaths in Florida traceable to DeSatan policies. He really is a fucking genocidal maniac.

But, they died as Human Sacrifices for their Orange Spraytanned Sun King

So much small dick energy

These go-go boots are not made for actually walking into a disaster

them KINKY BOOTS

O.K. Gurls, THIS is Disaster Runway

Is that all OP?

^ Is that all r110...

"An estimated 42,915 people died in car crashes in 2021"

White Kinky Boots on my Runway after Labor Day???

I call it a good start

Even Charles Shaughnessy couldn't pull that shit off.

R94, we don't have to imagine what that asshole and his parasitic son-in-law would do:

Will DeSantis wear his white hot 🥵 go-go boots to meet Biden, today?

These boots are made for ho’ing and that’s just what I’ll do

Where are the pictures of Biden with DeSantis?

I hope Biden didn’t mistakenly try and grab the Go-Go Gov’s ass?

Was the Go-Go Gov wearing assless chaps to top it off?

Half of the current death toll was due to drowning.

October 19, 2022, TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — Today, Governor Ron DeSantis visited Sanibel Island to announce that repairs to the Sanibel Causeway have been completed more than a week ahead of schedule. As of this morning, access to Sanibel Island has been restored for residents, reconnecting Sanibel Island to the mainland. T

Power has been restored to all accounts on the mainland which can receive it.

As of today, over 97% of accounts that can receive power on Pine Island have been restored, significantly ahead of the estimated restoration timeline.

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It's obvious the recovery is going well. Were it otherwise the media would be blanketed with stories headlining the failure so they could rescue Crist. However with DeSantis far ahead in the polls the hurricane story has disappeared from MSNBC and CNN.