Bros opens tomorrow with a 96 on Rotten Tomatoes

Shouldn’t be 96.

It's 97 now.

I will never not see "Billy on the Street" or whatever the fuck that thing was, so I will never, ever see this movie.

It should be 37, but we live in this backwards era.

Rotten Tomatoes should be shut down.

Why all the gay haters?

Billy could potentially be this generation’s Woody Allen. I mean, artistically. Please support this whiny, neurotic, noisy Jewish treasure.

It's showing tonight, Thursday, in many theaters as a preview.

Will Hurricane Ian fuck up the box office for Billy and Viola this weekend?

OP will it win best picture like 12 Years a Slave which has 95 score on Rotten Tomatoes?

OP is using “We”; I don’t even know what kind of shoes OP wears.

Stop making suggestions for “We”. They always involve me spending money. Every time, Bald Steve.

They are hoping it makes $10 million.

Is this a colored movie ?

I won't see it because I loathe Billy Eichner.

A 97% used to be super tough to get 10 years ago.

It was “Wonder Woman” that destroyed Rotten Tomatoes. When they started publicizing the 100% / 99%, it became more popular for journalist to rave over shitty PC movies.

“The Dark Knight” is a modern classic and didn’t get close to 90% on RT, as an example of how that site has changed.

[quote] Comedian and actor Billy Eichner is taking a stab at the feel-good genre with “Bros,” an R-rated romantic comedy that opens in 3,300 North American theaters on Friday. The movie, from Universal Pictures, is aiming to generate $8 million to $10 million in its opening weekend. It’s not a huge number, but the film carries a modest $22 million production budget.

[quote] “Bros” is debuting in theaters alongside Paramount’s R-rated chiller “Smile,” which is projected to cast a toothy glow over the domestic box office charts with $16 million to $20 million. That’s a stellar result given that it only cost the studio $17 million to make.

So, rule of thumb break even for "Bros" may be $44 million or so needed in ticket sales over its run in theaters.

If it doesn't do well at the box office, there will be more direct to streaming movies on Hulu and Neftlix.

Love, Simon wasn't a rom-com exactly, but it earned $66 million worldwide on a production budget of $17 million. I believe it was considered a modest, profitable hit.

Rotten Tomatoes aggregates multiple reviews and even if it’s a mixed review it still ends up contributing at 100%,

Plus film critics usually just do a thumbs up or thumbs down now. To get 97% would imply it’s a perfect movie but that’s not even close to reality.

Has anyone talked about Julia’s Ticket to Paradise actually is a bad movie? They opened it internationally to try to escape bad reviews.

Newbie gay Colton representing (himself) at the the Bros premiere.

Variety described the movie as “Self-satisfied.” The same could be said about Eichner, who is a bit up his own ass in the press parade.

Also, if the movie fails to cross over, I’ll tell you exactly why: straights are alarmed by the pick-your-gender ideology. And they’re lumping us in with that shit. Fuck the HRC and all the other organizations for barely giving us a minute to enjoy our new rights before terrifying everyone with the trans/gender identity shit.

Someone please tell me, with its focus on “queer” history, does this movie perpetuate the “Marsha P. Johnson threw the first brick” Stonewall myth?

When will it come to Netflix? Is it?

To his credit, Eichner's character nor doe any other character in the film says Marsha threw the first brick but they do acknowledge she was a part of the movement.

This is sad - well, it's not Darfur level sad - but I just cannot believe RT anymore. They have filled their critic ranks with amateurs and ass kissers. I also now doubt their Audience ratings.

Just like Amazon played games with their reviews for that Ring movie.

Marsha was not part of the "movement." Marsha started STAR, which had zip to do with gays and lesbians.

Tell that to Billy then.

Are there trans women of color in this? That could explain it. Giving a good score to the oppressor is unheard of today.

Are we honestly supposed to think Eichner is hot? He looks like a troll.

I'll see it when it's streaming. As much as I want to like Billy, on this press tour he is just repulsive looking with no charm to make up for it.

[quote] I want to like Billy,

He does have the ability to be funny, but far too often it's buried in schtick.

I should add again (unless there is another thread), Billy used one. of my posts verbatim. He's definitely reading all this.

Saw it last night. Loved it. Esp loved how much my husband. He’s been dealing with a lot of health stuff and it was nice to see him smile the entire movie.

[quote]Someone please tell me, with its focus on “queer” history, does this movie perpetuate the “Marsha P. Johnson threw the first brick” Stonewall myth?

Yes, Billy educates the “straight” Luke on queer history and what started Stonewall and how we owe Pride to the courageous acts of one Marsha P. Johnson. The straight guy did not know queer history at all. Billy shouts, “How could you not know any of this? How could you be queer without knowing queer history?!? If you want to be queer, you gotta learn!” then grabs his hand and runs with him through the streets and into the queer museum.

[quote]They are hoping it makes $10 million.

I thought this was a joke about how unpopular the movie is but they really are hoping for $8 to $10 million. WTF? Since when were movie openings this low? They’re hoping for a one digit opening?

Wasn't a similar bit used in Uncoupled? The young guy NPH met at the grocery?

Got my tickets for Saturday night. Can’t wait!

[quote] I thought this was a joke about how unpopular the movie is but they really are hoping for $8 to $10 million. WTF? Since when were movie openings this low? They’re hoping for a one digit opening?

This has been a marketing trick for a while now, but never has it been as overused as this past month, when the studios have released so many dogs. When you see tracking is disappointing the week before opening, you send out a press release the day before saying you expect XYZ film to gross anywhere between 1-5 million less than you actually do. Then when it grosses exactly what the tracking predicted, you can say "WOW! What a HIT! It exceeded our expectations!" Everyone knows this bullshit trick, but they keep on doing it don't they, Viola and Olivia?

An example of a recent $10 million dollar opening:

A movie that I loved, Spielberg's West Side Story, earned about $10 million dollars domestically in its opening weekend in 2,820 theaters. It cost $100 million to make, and probably needed double that to break even. It topped out at $76 mil total box office worldwide.

Best wishes for Bros' box office. The relatively small ($22 mil) cost should help on its path to profitability.

[bold][italic] Successful gay men!!

In a film that people seem to like!!!

NEVER!!! NEVER!! NEVER will we support them!!

Especially Billy Eichner!!

SET HISSOMETERS TO 11!!!!!

HISSS!!!

HISSS!!!!

HISSSS!!!!

But’s it’s about “queers” not gay men.

Sounds dreadful at R34. Good lord.

Holy crap. I just saw yesterday's box office numbers. Smile did $2m in Thursday shows. Bros did $500K.

Early sales aren’t looking good.

It will be lucky to hit the projected $8 million this weekend.

Leave it to this place to be excited when a well-reviewed gay themed comedy doesn’t perform well.

All of my friends are seeing Smile this weekend.

You mean a skewed reviewed gay themed comedy, R45.

If you want to get shirty, complain about the non-support for films like Weekend or The Great Freedom or any other actual worthwhile gay themed films that should be better known than they are, not this pandering blob of phony narcissism. Just because it's gay (or excuse me, "queer") doesn't mean it's automatically good.

Ah, so any good reviews must be fake because you say so, eh r47?

Oh and for comparison you pick a film released in 2011 - a very different time for gay acceptance - and a German language film? God you're pathetic

Hi Billy!

Absolutely no gay guy wants to see a movie where *checks notes* Billy Eichner is the lead. Gays are shallow and will only turn out for fuckable guys.

Straight women in the Midwest love Billy. This is a movie for them.

I love all the cranky tut-tut fraus' comments to the trailer ads on Facebook:

"Luke, I loved you in 'A Christmas Miracle Gazebo Romance' on Hallmark, but I will not be watching this!"

The deluded frau patrol think they're personally addressing him, and deny he's gay.

I don't think the wide audience is ready to give a wall to wall gay movie like this a #1 opening. The dynamics of the masses are too complex for this to get much beyond a polite welcome. It really seems more like stream material or the pilot for a series one of the streaming sites.

R15 Good. I don't like going to theaters anyway.

[quote] this generation’s Woody Allen. … whiny, neurotic, noisy Jewish treasure.

That's a devastating description, R6.

Audiences don’t care about Viola or Billy. Their Rotten Tomatoes “score” is their victory. Plus being the first gay rom-com and the first spear chucking movie led by a 56 year old woman.

I saw one clip that showed some bitchy queen say she was off to a pride party but the two men talking with her couldn't come because they were "too old to go in the pool." Because nothing says funny like ageism in the gay community.

" One of the best reviewed movies of the year"

People don’t want to be told what movies they should see.

Rotten Tomatoes is rotten. Misinformation. This film should be rated 30%.

The movie is failing because it’s preachy, beats you over the head with its Twitter-Ized version of “queer” history, and because Eichner is just not an appealing comedy lead.

I don’t delight in its failure because it’s bad for all of us.

But perhaps it’ll put a dent in what I hear is Eichner’s enormous ego.

Tasteful

I’ll pass. Bowen Yang’s involvement alone is an ick for me. I also agree with the posters commenting that Eichner is up his own ass. In his newfangled Instagram bio, he touts himself as the “star/co-writer of the historic gay rom com BROS”. He is in—and perhaps even beyond—Viola Davis territory.

[quote] historic

This movie is about dead people.

Bitches, it’s a funny movie. If you haven’t seen it, don’t comment. And learn what others have to say,

[quote]And learn what others have to say,

About “queers”? Do I have a choice? No.

[quote]“star/co-writer of the historic gay rom com BROS”

Billy can't spell histrionic.

This guy in the new Walter Matthau.

He is Karl Malden after his nose job.

He should have casted someone else as the lead. A good looking hunk that would put asses in theater seats.

r61 Have you actually seen it?

Casting himself as the lead just makes the whole movie unbelievable. No one is lusting or falling in love with Billy. Just like all the guys lusting for Hannah on Girls was unbelievable.

[quote] No one is lusting or falling in love with Billy.

The main character is a schmuck. Audiences love victims and victimhood nowdays.

Yeah r70 I saw it at a preview screening earlier this week. See it, as it’s moderately enjoyable, but I speak the truth.

[quote] He should have casted someone else as the lead. A good looking hunk that would put asses in theater seats.

This, absolutely this.

Billy and Luke have good chemistry but Billy is so whiny, I had to wonder how Luke's character could even be drawn to him. And the script is (not surprisingly) tailored to give Billy big scenes, and the majority of the spotlight. The supporting characters are paper thin, just types, and not fully-dimensional characters. For me, a good rom-com has to have good supporting characters for the main characters to play off of.

Oh, dear! R69. "Cast" not "casted."

[quote]Are there trans women of color in this?

There appear to be at least two, along with a prominent nonbinary person of color. I saw a video of a panel discussion with the stars, director, and producer. One (Eve Lindley) was enthusiastic about the movie, the other two passive-aggressively griping about not being the leads. While sitting feet from the lead actors and the people who cast them.

I'm sure they'll be asked to return if it's successful enough to merit a sequel.

When will it be on TV?

They should have called it "Mates" or "Cuddlebuddies" or something. Straight guys will think it's about them and walk out.

I want to see it for McFarlane.

R79 He briefly shows his nipples.

No buttocks.

How .uch nudity is there? Do we see 🍆 or just 🍑?

[quote] Bros opens tomorrow with a 96 on Rotten Tomatoes

It has now dropped to 90%.

This movie is one of those box-ticking bores.

The reviewers of Rotten Tomatoes are praising it because it is "representative" rather than because it is good.

Diversity is the new aesthetic judgement tool. It’s retarded.

[quote] Diversity

Diversity =weakness

The first rule of writing novels or plays is to have a hero in a good plot. Having "teams" and multiple heroes dilutes the effectiveness of the drama.

With all this media blitz I thought the movie came out months ago

The director of "Bros" walks you through one of the scenes in the movie which is based on a real-life date experience of Billy Eichner.

^ [quote] whiny, neurotic

[quote]The director of "Bros" walks you through

No thanks, I’ve had sufficient.

BILLY TURNED NATIONAL HALLMARK TREASURE LUKE MACFARLAND GAY!!! NO WAY IN H E DOUBLE HOCKEYSTICKS WILL I OR ANY OF MY SCRAPBOOKING GROUP SEE THIS TRASH!!!

I sure would appreciate if you consider The Woman King as part of your viewing decisions. Even $5 helps.

Not supporting Bros means you are homophobic, transphobic and Anti-Semitic.

I've already pre-ordered the Blu-Ray.

In a year or two, Luke will probably do gay Christmas movie for Netflix or Hulu. Hulu seems to have interest in gay projects afer Fire Island and the lesbian Christmas movie Happiest Season. Happiest Season is considered to be a problematic due to how one of the lesbian characters was written and also some have issues that Clea Duvall co-wrote the movie with a straight woman. But, I liked that Clea's movie was shot in the US and they didn't go to Canada to film in the fucking summer time.

Wrote the movie with a straight woman? How dare she! I hope Bros was not written, directed, acted, costumed, made up, or catered by any straight men!

I enjoyed it. Great chemistry between the two leads and it made me laugh a lot.

R95 IS CLEARLY A FRAU

FRAU FRAU FRAU FRAU FRAU

NO GAY MAN COULD LIKE A MOVIE WITH BILLY EICHNER

NONE!! YOU HEAR ME!! NONE!!!

HISSSS!!!!

R95 = simple

This thing has Debra Messing playing a fictionalized version of herself.

[quote] This thing has Debra Messing playing a fictionalized version of herself.

And badly, too.

Bros only made 500k in previews, experts predict 5-8 million opening weekend. A bonafide flop….

It has so much working against it. It’s a comedy, it’s a romantic comedy, and it’s gay themed. When was the last box office comedy hit? “Rich Crazy Asians” back in 2018?

Rotten Tomatoes was the machine behind “Wonder Woman”, “Black Panther”, and “Crazy Rich Asians”, they were pushed for being the first of their kind and Rotten Tomatoes gave them 100% scores and that hype helped them succeed. But we’re talking 2016 - 2018 and it’s 2022, a 90% on Rotten Tomatoes is common at this point.

Also, when I first heard “Bros”, I immediately thought it would kind of be a gay version of “My Best Friend’s Wedding”.

I tonight it was going to tap into the straight guy friend we were in love with.

I know some people here would disagree but I think a romantic comedy based on a “is he gay” plot would have been more successful and connecting to audiences. Because we’ve all had bros we wished were gay.

But this story just feels fictitious and PC.

In Bros, Eichner plays unlucky in love podcast host/museum curator Bobbie Lieber, who falls in lust with strapping single guy Aaron (Luke Macfarlane). As the duo embark on a tentative romance, they also open up their sex lives to include hot and heavy threesomes (and foursomes) as well as casual Grindr hook-ups with other people. Capturing that aspect of contemporary LGBTQ life is something that was important for the film's out gay stars, and sets Bros apart from the typical Apatow/Stoller joint, where the central couple tends to be monogamous.

"What's fun — especially for straight audiences — is that whole movie is a throwback to the elements of Apatow movies or romantic comedies that we love, but with this fresh, new and somewhat provocative perspective," notes Eichner. "It's not just your run-of-the mill rom-com."

Straight people watch gay men porn at home not in movie theaters.

^ He even talks like what R6 mentioned.

I hope it does well for the sake of gay male oriented movies in the mainstream...but I have to say, Billy's been coming off as one hell of a pompous, ignorant ass while promoting this movie. All of a sudden he thinks he's god's gay gift to Hollywood and pop culture, and somehow gay cinema is finally born with this average movie of his. He needs to eat some humble pie.

R105 That’s why it should flop.

He dropped the ball. Straight actors / directors / writers are better at making gay movies than him.

It sort of bugs me that pompous asshole Judd Apatow is producer on this movie.

I'd give it a 75% because the movie felt very scattered. It couldn't decide whether it was a political movie or if it was a romcom. It's hard for me to focus on the romance when 50% of the time I'm having a mental debate in my mind about the different political statements made in the movie. Most of the sex scenes sucked anyways, except for the one where they hit each other. And most of the time they were thrusting, they were doing it in a way that wasn't anatomically correct. Two men can't fuck missionary with their stomachs and faces that close to each other. It was as if Billy Eichner had a pussy. But there were definitely very funny and relatable moments. I would've been more impressed if it was released on a streaming service, and I think everyone else would too.

I’m alone here I guess, but I’ll give it the benefit of the doubt until I see it. I hope it’s not a flop. It looks okay to me, but Billy’s publicity has been off-putting.

I always presumed William was a simpleton, with his shouting, and hand waving.

I hope Billy and Viola make a movie together next. ‘Marginalized’, the story of downtrodden multi-millionaires who cross racial and social barriers to be seen and celebrated as the important trailblazers they feel they are entitled to be without actually doing anything.

What's the relationship with Judd Apatow?

Apatow has a net worth of $160 Million and he used Seth Rogen to help get that $160 Million.

Is Apatow now using Eichner as a gay version of Seth Rogen to increase that net worth?

Wasn’t this originally supposed to be a vehicle for Andrew Rannells?

Just saw it. Its hilarious if you can handle Billy Eichner. It's very much him playing himself. But its like the best elements of Judd Apatow movies with better character development packed into 90 mins. Audience clapped at the end.

and this is the reason I won't see Bros aside from the trailer which highlights some of the supposedly funny line

the last line of the NY Times' generally favorable review:

It accomplishes what “Bros,” like every other rom-com, aims to do: charm audiences with a spirited, corny facsimile of life.

Straight men clapped.

R115, I'm guessing their audience isn't 70 year old bitter fags.

[quote] the best elements of Judd Apatow movies with better character development packed into 90 mins

R114 Bros is 115 minutes though. No comedy should be over 90 minutes and every single Apatow production goes way beyond this and they all out-stay their welcome.

Movies are tricky post-pandemic.

Many theaters shut down and the audiences that do go to movies tend to be young me, like high school and college age young, who go for superhero movies.

A lot of the audience for indie type films, rom-coms, dramas and anything that does not have a lot of special effects would rather just wait for the movie to show up on Amazon or iTunes--there's not longer the cultural imperative to see things in theaters when they first come out.

I never realized how much Eichner resembled Karl Malden until R68 pointed it out. He looks like he could be his son.

[quote] there's not longer the cultural imperative to see things in theaters when they first come out.

That's right, R119, my culture no longer impels me to see things when they first come out.

The aggressive shouty self-important almost shame-based publicity worked against it, ruining good will or even benign curiosity.

R120 He’s John Larroquette‘s doppelgänger!

Ryan Faucett

Ryan Faucett (NSFW)

[QUOTE] As the duo embark on a tentative romance, they also open up their sex lives to include hot and heavy threesomes (and foursomes) as well as casual Grindr hook-ups with other people. Capturing that aspect of contemporary LGBTQ life is something that was important for the film's out gay stars

A rollicking RomCom for the Monkey Pox generation.

My niece and her lez 20 somethings went last night in DC, they loved it! She said great cameos and def feel-good. I’m going today in NYC.

I like Eichner (and really liked Difficult People), but I heard him today on the New Yorker podcast and he sounded pretty stupid when he started talking about history/cultural anthropology/sociology. He needs to stick to pop culture.

I'll see Bros if it turns up somewhere convenient.

Eichner went to Stuyvesant HS and Northwestern U - he's probably a lot smarter than most actors.

"he's probably a lot smarter than most actors"

Because he went to that high school and university?

Yes R130

Neither are easy to get into

Someone is confusing "got into X school" with "smart".

[quote]I would've been more impressed if it was released on a streaming service, and I think everyone else would too.

Why would that have been more impressive?

R133 lowered expectations plus not having to go to the theater and spend a premium doing so.

[Quote]As the duo embark on a tentative romance, they also open up their sex lives to include hot and heavy threesomes (and foursomes) as well as casual Grindr hook-ups with other people.

Because nothing says "romantic comedy" like an open relationship where the main couple can't even commit themselves to being faithful. 👎

I'm less impressed with movies that debut on TV rather than in theaters, but that may be a generational thing.

This is the type of garbage movie that Hollywood pushes. A movie that perpetuates gay stereotypes and advances the Queer movement as opposed to the gay movement.

[quote]What's the relationship with Judd Apatow?

[quote]Apatow has a net worth of $160 Million and he used Seth Rogen to help get that $160 Million.

[quote] Is Apatow now using Eichner as a gay version of Seth Rogen to increase that net worth?

Apatow produced female led comedies like Trainwreck and Bridesmaids to make himself look like a male feminist type despite producing or directing movies that were sexist. He gloms onto certain projects to make himself look nice and progressive. But it's just bullshit because he's only focused on money.

R117 What audience?

Universal’s wide release of the Billy Eichner co-scripted/starring LGBTQ romantic comedy Bros is coming up quite short in No. 4 with $4.75M, outpegged by TriStar’s lesbian actioner The Woman King in No. 3 with $6.2M.

Billy Eichner and "feel good" don't belong in the same sentence.

Why not Dan Levy? He's hilarious.

Dan Levy and Bowen Yang will probably work some screenplay at some point. Hard to tell if they would be able to get a theatrical release in part because Bros is bombing and studios might not want to possibly take financial hits in the future.

[quote] Successful gay men!! In a film that people seem to like!!!

I don't know why people are pretending this is the only gay movie that's being released this year (or ever).

I go to gay film fests every year, at least twice a year since the pandemic, but in the before times more often. There are GREAT gay and lesbian movies made each year.

But are they rom-coms made by a MAJOR studio?

I must have seen 100-200 gay romance comedies, half of them foreign language.

No, they're independents made by smaller studios, but very good films. Half are usually foreign.

Don’t worry babies, I’m writing a gay rom com for Netflix and it will be a blockbuster.

I’ll eventually see it, but they need to remember some of us have more pressing activities. I, for example, have to rub a stick around in my poop and mail it into a lab as a pre pre screen for asshole cancer. That’s important stuff, Billy.

Unfortunately it’s a bomb. I wouldn’t want to be anywhere near Billy right now.

Already, Spoiler Alert looks like a better movie. Parsons is a better actor and the film is not hammering over your head how significant it is.

Spoiler alert is way too sad. Isn’t it based on that Ausiello book? Devastating. No thank you.

r143, yeah, and those great gay movies are generally limited to those gay film fests, never given a larger push or chance to reach a wider audience. They may play in smaller theaters before ending up on streaming. Movies made by major studios are given more marketing, wider releases, and more of a chance to reach beyond a niche audience. Don't gay stories deserve that? That's the point.

[quote] rub a stick around in my poop

How much are you sending, R148? How do you stop it from falling off the stick?

Smile looks like more fun.

well, I think this is one of those films that probably should be released on streaming platforms simultaneously with in the movie theaters, let's be honest here, this is a gay film, even it's excellent and appeal to all demographics, the "no homo" stigma will prevent many guys ever talking about this film in favor, let alone buying a ticket and watching it in a movie theatre.

R21 is a bigoted troll-

R148- you should have a colonoscopy that boy only screens buts prevents/treats by removing polyps that can evolved into adeno carcinoma. The stool test is NOT a substitute for colonoscopy.

Thanks Charlie, I think you may have mistyped "not" as "boy" - was this really intended for this thread?

The film’s top 10 markets are all in New York, San Francisco and Los Angeles, while it is underperforming in much of the middle of the country.

[quote]the "no homo" stigma will prevent many guys ever talking about this film in favor, let alone buying a ticket and watching it in a movie theatre.

Exactly. I knew people who bought tickets for other movies and then snuck into Bros because they were too embarrassed to buy a ticket to a gay film.

When you claim to have reinvented the wheel, don’t be surprised if the wheels that came before you stop rolling in your direction. Hubris.

Universal originally wanted Jacob Elordi and Zane Phillips to star. But Billy said no and insisted he star, which moved the whole cast’s age decades older. This might have worked better with a younger demographic instead of middle-aged men.

They made a bad decision, they could have gotten lots of straight women watching if they had given elordi and philips the leads. Let me tell you, the formula for success is making a movie that can be edited in tiktok with taylor swift songs.

[quote] Universal originally wanted Jacob Elordi and Zane Phillips to star. But Billy said no

They would have blown the budget.

Eichner and Apatow wanted this show to stay 'in-house' (or 'in-synagogue').

It makes Dear Evan Hansen look like a smash. Bros opening day BO was $1.8M

I saw this today twice, sequentially. I’ve never done that before. I don’t even like Billy Eichner. But this is a phenomenal movie. I hope DL’s more-jaded-than-thou clientele gives it a chance. It’s very honest about the anger and sadness that shapes gay men’s lives in a way I wasn’t expecting.

I think this will probably due very well at the Golden Globes - it may even win Best Comedy (what competition does it have?) and Best Comedy Actor.

It could possibly eke out an Original Screenplay nom but I think that’s going to be a crowded category (Fabelmans, Tàr and Banshees of Iniersherin are guaranteed spots).

R166 I’m not only giving it a chance - I'm looking forward to seeing it. I wish it was streaming but I’ll pay the money and go see it.

It’s not making money because straights are not going to the multiplex to see a gay themed movie, no matter what the reviews.

And the gay guys who have seen it do not like it because it is too preachy and so gay gay gay, it’s exhausting.

And Eichner’s character is an unpleasant asshole, particularly cringe-worthy during the dinner with the parents scene.

R187 It will be long forgotten by the time the Golden Globes roll around

I meant r167

[quote] I saw this today twice, sequentially.

Was there laughter AND tears, R166?

[quote] It will be long forgotten by the time the Golden Globes roll around

LOL You realize that with maybe one or two exceptions, everything that will be competing for the major awards has already premiered? The awards contenders are basically decided by the end of September. There’s nothing else coming.

R165, what does this movie have to do with Dear Evan Hansen?

[quote] LOL You realize that with maybe one or two exceptions, everything that will be competing for the major awards has already premiered? The awards contenders are basically decided by the end of September. There’s nothing else coming.

This may be the stupidest comment on here. It's October 1. The major award contenders are just beginning to roll out. And that's how it usually is every year.

[quote] what does this movie have to do with Dear Evan Hansen?

The makers all went to the same synagogues.

R175 = idiot

Talking to people who know nothing about show business is like talking to children

Everything important premieres with the space of a month at Venice, Telluride, Toronto and New York Film Festivals. There may be one or two stragglers left but 95% of all awards contenders has already premiered.

Even Steven goddamn Spielberg did Toronto this year rather than hold off until it’s Thanksgiving opening.

[quote] There may be one or two stragglers left but 95% of all awards contenders has already premiered.

Oh dear.

Yes they’ve premiered at film festivals but they haven’t been released.

Weren’t the Golden Globes cancelled?

I think this always was a hard sell since it had no stars. Plus the leads are middle-aged.

Group gay sex was never going to be box office. Hopefully it has a life on streaming.

The Globes are back on.

[quote]I saw this today twice, sequentially. I’ve never done that before.

Did you pay twice or did you sneak into the second showing?

I think we should just be grateful that in 2022 we have an “LGTBQ” movie that isn’t all about trannies.

But it was about the trannies.

We resemble that remark

It's not about trannies, but they threw trannies in there because the filmmakers knew there would be some backlash if they didn't mention them.

The problem with this film is Billy throws in all these types (lesbians, trannies, bisexuals) and does nothing with them. They're just types who spout dialogue. Billy's character has friends who are in a throuple. Lame.

[quote] I think this will probably due very well at the Golden Globes - it may even win Best Comedy (what competition does it have?) and Best Comedy Actor.

Actually I take this back because I think Banshees of Inisherin may compete as comedy. But it may not. Three Billboards competed as Drama.

[quote]It’s very honest about the anger and sadness that shapes gay men’s lives in a way I wasn’t expecting.

I saw this tonight and loved it and agree with R166.

I loved it as a comedy, and I loved it as so honest and real about every gay man's emotional terrain, whether you're 20 or 70.

I wanted to watch it again right after it ended. I can't remember the last time I experienced that.

[quote]Actually I take this back because I think Banshees of Inisherin may compete as comedy. But it may not. Three Billboards competed as Drama.

Was Three Billboards a comedy?

This movie should have been a streamer, or at least released at the same time. We just had Uncoupled, which was a huge hit.

This will be a grower, not a shower. It will gain esteem through cable repeats and streaming.

It's as landmark a gay movie in comedy as Brokeback Mountain was in drama, and Beautiful Thing was before that.

You must be joking, or drunk.

I saw it at a 4:30pm showing in an nyc suburb. About 24 viewers, most were 20 year olds/ college age. They laughed the most. I as a 50 year old like Billy E., and while I liked the movie, I hoped for bigger laughs. The ROM part was good, the COM part was flailing a bit. The museum part of the story was ham-handed, my favorite part was the P-town bit. Personally I don’t find Billy unattractive (a bit whiny yes) so the pairing of leads wasn’t an issue for me. The song was a little cringey for me.

The messaging was lowest common denominator level GAY, seemingly tailored more to educate middle America, non-DL reading straights. Luke McFarland is hot. I appreciated how the Grindr life/ friend group support / no romantic relationship situation many are living was portrayed, I found that to be pretty spot on.

[Quote]what does this movie have to do with Dear Evan Hansen?

Bros like Evan Hansen were both huge failures at the BO. Even more disastrous than In the Heights and West Side Story. Even Evan Hansen had a larger opening day total of $3.2M compared to Bros $1.8M

Trans were overrepresented at the museum board meeting. It should have been five gay men, three lesbians, one non binary autist, and one tranny mess who comes in really late and makes a big show of herself with clacking heels and then spends the whole meeting fidgeting and reapplying lip gloss.

R195 why would middle America want or even need to be "educated" about gay throuples? Do people need to be educated about swingers? It's a movie. It's supposed to be fun.

Also, there is no lack of LGBTQIAA+++ info out there.

[quote] I wanted to watch it again right after it ended. I can't remember the last time I experienced that.

OMG glad to know it had the same effect on other people. I went to another theater right after I watched it and watched it again. After watching LGBT movies for twenty+ years, this is the only one which I got that struck by lightning feeling from.

RE: An Original Screenplay nom

This movie has two things the writer’s branch likes very much: monologues (three very good ones) and a writer/actor

A nom could be analogous to The Big Sick’s nom (its sole nom was alongside Get Out, Lady Bird, Shape of Water and Three Billboards, all which were major contenders that year)

R200 Also it'll be a diversity box ticked for The Academy. See, they ARE inclusive!

I'm laughing my ass off at these two shills on here.

[Quote]Also it'll be a diversity box ticked for The Academy. See, they ARE inclusive!

Its total BO will be miserable and by Halloween it will be forgotten and out of theaters. Don't expect and award season buzzzzz!

R203 I was being sarcastic! Well, attempting to be.

No shit.

Awww, this Columbia filmmaker talks about how much he liked Bros and how important it was to him. I don’t think the jaded Queens of DL are really the intended audience for this film. It’s for like those midwest closeted gays or others in more repressive countries.

I saw it in NY, audience seemed to like it. Lots of laughs.

Parts of it I enjoyed. It does capture part of the gay male experience in a real way.

However the movie is so damn preachy, Romcoms should be entertaining. Billy Eichner's endless ranting gets exhausting.

Also the bar that Luke Evans goes after the dinner with the parents was Six26 in Jersey City. Jersey City really is the sixth borough of New York ; ).

Ruh roh! No more gay mainstream movies now.

Stick a fork in Billy Eichner.

That's all, just stick a fork in him. Several times, if possible.

B💣R💣O💣S

I also thought it was needlessly coarse, although that’s probably not what’s keeping audiences away.

Most romcoms don’t include lines like “please fuck me,” which Luke says to Billy, or when Billy says to Luke (paraphrasing) “your large penis was in my tight asshole.”

I don’t think When Harry Met Sally would have been such a big success if Meg Ryan had asked Tom Hanks to lick her cunt.

Just who is Bros for, exactly?

Jesus!

I had planned to see it, but missed the opening weekends. I'll still watch it but now I'll probably wait until it streams - unless a friend makes a specific request to go see it.

R196, DEH and Bros did not have $100 million dollar budgets. West Side Story was probably the biggest flop of last year unless I'm missing one.

R214 Attendance wise they did far less than In the heights which was also available on streaming and WSS. Hugh failures at the BO no matter the films' cost. No one wants to see Ben or Steve on the big screen

Or Adam and Steve, apparently

What us R215 rambling about? This is a Bros thread. Not a history of box office flops.

We've been watching it NON STOP since Thursday preview!!!!

R206 You have to be wary of someone who tags themself with the label "#representationmatters.

Social Justice Warriors are only 10% of the population.

But how's this show playing in Peoria?

Has anyone checked on Billy? He must be devastated.

R217 welcome to DL self-appointed hall monitor. It was used as a comparison and a reference to indicate that among films that opened below expectations B💣R💣O💣S looms large.

[Quote]I saw it in NY, audience seemed to like it. Lots of laughs.

And to think New Yorkers used to be such sophisticated audiences. it sad to hear that they laughed are unfunny one-liners that were shouted at an annoying pitch.

^ laughed at

[Quote] This is a Bros thread. Not a history of box office flops.

Well Bros is now part of that history

You can't spell "history of box office flops" without BROS.

There's so many things I don't understand about this movie.

Like, who the hell thought a movie starring Billy Eichner would be a huge box office hit?

Or, why a niche thing like this was given a wide release?

And, the biggest or of all, why the fuck did this cost $22m to make?!?!?!? It's a fucking' Hallmark romance with NO big stars!!!

Even if the movie is good, millions of people aren't gonna flock to a gay rom com without any stars in it.

If they wanted a $20m opening weekend, then cast one of the "Chrises" in it...Hemsworth or Evans or Pratt or Pine. Or, all of them for that matter for "Bros Bukkake Gang Bang".

[quote] Hemsworth or Evans or Pratt or Pine.

You think any of these guys could pretend to find BE hot?

R228 LOL

I think my casting suggestions would suggest that two of those 4 Chrises would play BOTH male leads in Bros.

In reality, Billy Eichner should have been cast as the fat best friend. Maybe.

It sucks that this flopped, but it was inevitable I guess.

R193 from a review on RogerEbert,com 21/2 out of ⭐⭐⭐⭐

'However, what Eichner and co-writer Stoller seem to have forgotten is that a rom-com like “When Harry Met Sally” is so iconic not just because of Harry and Sally's authenticity, but that all of its characters feel like real people.

Worse yet, "Bros" thinks of itself as the most important pioneer solely because it's doing so on a mainstream level."

[quote] I want to see it for McFarlane.

That was my biggest reason too, R79. I now know what “I want you to fuck me” sounds like when said in Luke MacFarlane’s voice. Money well spent, in my opinion.

[quote] If they wanted a $20m opening weekend, then cast one of the “Chrises” in it...Hemsworth or Evans or Pratt or Pine.

Pratt and Pine would never take on this sort of role, for opposite reasons. Hemsworth or Evans might be willing (I don’t know, neither has played gay yet so far as I’m aware), but both are highly in demand and I don’t think their schedules or the movie’s budget would have allowed for either of them.

r99 = Susan Sarandon

If you don’t like gays, be sure to catch The Woman King before it leaves theaters. We sure need your help to reach $150 million.

He's charmless and visually unappealing. I actually like Billy on the street I think it's funny I like looking at the location some of which I'm very familiar with and I've even seen some of the people on the street literally around 23rd and 9th several times. His abrasiveness and lack of sex appeal are exactly what makes that show work, but it doesn't work for a ROM com and based on the trailers and scenes that I've seen much of the dialogue seems to be stand-up comedy material it doesn't seem contemporary it seems to take place some 20 years ago during the time at which Billy was a 20 something and the central relationship doesn't seem believable at all.

Gay men never refer to each other bros though when they're dating. Why did they name the film this?

It got mostly good reviews, and still a flop. That happens.

R234 Iove me gays. I just hate shitty, unoriginal films.

Saw it and loved it. I’m sure all the bitter bitches will now attack, but whatevs.

"Will now attack"? Where have you been the last couple of months, R239?

Interesting we have not touched the generation thing here, let's be honest, many DLers are older or already senior citizens, their thoughts and critiques on the cast and the story would differ from gays under 30 or even 40. Read this thread and other ones about "Bros", you can tell some posters are not just "older", they are old. I won't be surprised that generations divided on the overall opinion of this film.

The film needs one thing: cock!

[quote]As the duo embark on a tentative romance, they also open up their sex lives to include hot and heavy threesomes (and foursomes) as well as casual Grindr hook-ups with other people. Capturing that aspect of contemporary LGBTQ life is something that was important for the film's out gay stars.

But it was never going to fly with the straight, mainstream audience they were clearly hoping for. Rom-coms are about the fantasy of finding true love, not about reality. The audience doesn't want to know about Harry thinking his first wife was better at giving blowjobs than Sally, or that Sally has been fantasizing about the UPS guy. R212 makes good points.

NYT business article

“Straights” didn’t show up, and if you’re not a “weirdo” you should go see it, it needs to be seen on the BIG screen.

Why is nobody talking about the bad choice of picking an unlikable lead for your first major Gay RomCom?

A movie with a horridly wretchedly super fugly cunt as lead failed? Quelle surprise. Even a movie with hugely fug Sarah Jessie Parker would do better.

[Quote]Interesting we have not touched the generation thing here, let's be honest, many DLers are older or already senior citizens, their thoughts and critiques on the cast and the story would differ from gays under 30 or even 40. Read this thread and other ones about "Bros", you can tell some posters are not just "older", they are old. I won't be surprised that generations divided on the overall opinion of this film.

R241 age has nothing to do with finding Billy loud obnoxious and sexless which besides being unfunny is the reason the film sucks.

[Quote]Yeah, I agree that the film flopped because of Billy. The trailers are annoying, he’s annoying in the 7 minute interviews he gives on talk shows, etc. Why would anyone want to pay to see him when they won’t watch him for free on tv? I bet even his parents refuse to Zoom with him because he’s so annoying. Him topping Luke? Sure. Even if Luke is a bottom in real live, it’s unimaginable that Billy can act like a top, let alone be one in real life.

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