Lizzo may now be the only person to play crystal flute that belonged to James Madison

Why would anyone that morbidly obese parade around in a fucking thong?

Why are historical institutions allowing this shit to happen? Just the lbs of makeup on her mouth alone could damage that flute. It is shameful!

Lizzo has a nice face and a great personality. Not sour and dour like a lot of fatties. And she is talented. For those reasons she really should lose weight.

Librarian of Congress Carla Hayden is the best. She’s on her third President now.

"Just the lbs of makeup on her mouth alone could damage that flute."

How, exactly, R2, does lipstick not just wipe off glass?

I like that one of our most popular celebrities in 2022 is a flautist. Who would have possibly predicted that?

[quote]Why are historical institutions allowing this shit to happen? Just the lbs of makeup on her mouth alone could damage that flute. It is shameful!

The Republican Party has been taking a huge, steaming shit on Madison's constitution for some time now - that should upset you far more than this.

Was that it? FFS, can she even play a flute?

Yes, Rose R8, she can.

She's barely competent on the flute, R9.

R10 Very much my impression also.

Give the flute to someone who can actually play it.

I question your authority on flautists, R10/R11.

R6, Lizzo is also a renowned flauta-ist.

R14 Ah-ha, now I see where the confusion stems from.

She’s trash.

"James Galloway"

Oh, dear!

She can play it, but she's certainly not an accomplished flutist as she is often made out to be by those who go over-the-top with praise when the person is PoC. I honestly don't get how they can't see how patronising and condescending it is. It's like marvelling at a pet.

r12 she was trained and educated in it. so, she can play.

also if her fat black arse wasn't playing it, doubt any of you skin flautists would even know there was a crystal flute that belonged to James Madison.

"And this one time, in band camp, I stuck James Madison's crystal flute up my pussy!"

I had no idea what the thread was about, having no clue about this ever happening. I fully expected to see someone shoving a flute into their ...nevermind.

The Library of Congress is getting down with the kids of color!

I have no problem with this. I support her creativity and I admire her for sticking with it. All the band directors I was exposed to as a child were so mean, I didn't stick with it. I am glad she did.

People are drowning in Florida but the nation is busy talking about this small planet trilling a couple of notes on an old flute.

Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull seethes.

Thanks for the examples of her playing the flute. It confirms what I thought. She's fucking awful.

This one time in summer camp…

She is high all the time. Her dissociative personality disorder will catch up with her soon.

And did even one Lizzo fan in attendance suddenly become interested in history because of this? They would've cheered if she'd downed a can of Pringles. Why would the Library of Congress do this?

Hi, r30!!

How many times has she had that thing up her cooch?

Oh good lord, next thing you know Madonna is going to want to hop on this "using things from history" bandwagon and drink a beer out of this bad boy.

I can play the skin flute!

r29 then address your complaints to the University of Houston.

[quote] Why are historical institutions allowing this shit to happen?

the answer is

Library of Congress @librarycongress

[quote] For those concerned about the flute: Music Division curators made sure it could be played without damage. This sort of thing is not all that unusual, in fact. Some of the Library's priceless instruments were donated with the stipulation that they remain functional & be played.

And

[quote] She's barely competent on the flute,

Wrong

What will she do when being obese and being black for the sake of being black become passé again? In like ten-years' time?

^ Be Black and RICH

(with, at minimum, her already awarded Grammy and Emmy)

She's genuinely a talented singer and songwriter, and it's cool she can play the flute.

I do not find her attractive, and I think she looks ridiculous when she poses and performs in skimpy outfits; but I cannot begrudge her her talent.

How do we know that Madison didn't play it?

R37 Why? Did I pay for her course?

Obviously, if anyone should be complaining...

I think most of the offense comes from the way she's dressed. If she were wearing a lovely gown, it would look more respectable.

Do women like Lizzo and Lena Dunham get some kind of special pleasure out of forcing people to witness the display of their bodies exploding out of tiny apparel?

She can play the flute but can't wipe her ass. Her priorities are in disarray.

Yet Monica Lewinsky’s skills on the Bill Clinton Peyronie’s skin flute received astronomically more attention. Dammit, Black Lips Matter. I’m scrawling my acronym protest sign now.

[quote] Do women like Lizzo and Lena Dunham get some kind of special pleasure out of forcing people to witness the display of their bodies exploding out of tiny apparel?

I would argue that the complicated answer basically comes down to fronting the aspect of themselves that they have been told to feel ashamed of

[quote] “Missy Elliott gave me really great advice. A lot of really good advice, all the time, but namely when we were doing the ‘Tempo’ music video,” she said to the outlet. “I just kept shrinking myself, literally, because she’s 5’2” and I’m 5’9”. She was like, ‘Quit doing that. Don’t ever shrink yourself on your set. This is your music video. You are the star. Whenever that s—t is yours, don’t ever make yourself smaller for other people.’ And I took that across the board. Don’t shrink yourself in a literal way to make people comfortable, don’t shrink yourself creatively. Don’t limit yourself as a businesswoman. Don’t shrink yourself when you’re standing up for yourself in your personal life, in your relationships with people.”

[quote] Her priorities are in disarray.

...A $12M Net Worth...

Replies to Kyle Griffin:

[quote] You could have stopped at “woman” and this would have been an evergreen tweet.

and

[quote] Wait till they here what a president did with things that belong to the national archives

and

Soledad O'Brien

[quote] A flute pretty much nobody knew existed til she played it.

[quote] While much of the nation found this to be unobjectionable fun, a cadre of right-wing culture warriors immediately took to Twitter to denounce Lizzo playing Madison's flute as a "woke" assault on American history.

[quote] The Library of Congress really took out a 200-year old flute that belonged to James Madison just so Lizzo could twerk with it," fumed right-wing operative Greg Price. "They degrade our history and then call you racist if you actually value it."

[quote] "Everyone involved in the decision to allow Lizzo to twerk while playing James Madison’s flute needs to be deported," raged "America First" supporter Andrew McCarthy. "I don’t care if they’re citizens. Deport them somewhere."

[quote] Trump-loving author Nick Adams, meanwhile, said that the "Biden Administration is making a mockery of the country" by letting Lizzo play the flute, as he charged that she "isn't talented enough to play music on a $20 Yamaha Plastic Recorder off Amazon."

[quote] Matt Walsh, the right-wing Christian culture warrior from The Daily Wire, believed that letting Lizzo play the flute was deliberately intended to antagonize white people.

[quote] "Lizzo playing James Madison's flute was a form of racial retribution, according to the woke Left," he wrote. "And I actually have no doubt that this is part of the reason why the Library of Congress facilitated this spectacle."

R41 is correct.

Lots of old racist, bitter, mentally ill fags on here.

If she can play the flute and the Library trust her not to break it, then I fail to see what the problem is. The outfit isn't great, but that's just her.

As I said, these conservatives don't even believe in the constitution - they shat on it the moment the stupidest pile of shit became their leader. You think that orange cunt even knows Madison wrote the constitution? Their fucking garbage leader couldn't pass a 3rd grade US History test, so fuck them being offended by this.

How woke. Wake me when Madison Cawthorne gets FDR's wheelchair.

How woke? So you're a fucking idiot who just uses that word anytime you see a black person get the honor of doing something you think they shouldn't be allowed to do.

How is this considered woke?

And why would Madison Cawthorn be given that honor when he's an insurrectionist moron against everything FDR stood for? Had you said to hand him an original copy of Mein Kampf, that would've made more sense.

While we're on this topic, I would like to talk an opportunity to share and/or reminisce about one of my all time favorite recordings (from 2003) when Italy invited Detroit native Regina Carter to play a two hundred and fifty year old violin.

[quote] Ms. Carter came, she played; the concert was a brilliant success, though not without its detractors. There are some classical fans who considered it a debasement, a near sacrilege for The Cannon to be placed in the hands of a player of jazz.

I cannot imagine anything gayer than owning a crystal flute.

My entire conception of Madison is changing... and it's not because of Lizzo.

R56, do you not know what sarcasm is?

Good for her! Glad to see snowflake heads exploding.

Are the same people who were outraged over KK wearing Marilyn Monroe's dress also racist given that KK is a White woman?

"Melanated fish woman."

Why is it so hard for fucking Leftists to understand that the outrage over Ariel, a DANISH Scandinavian character, being race changed into an African American woman, is because people are sick and tired of the double standards regarding cultural appropriation? White people are constantly accused of cultural appropriation while PoC use and benefit from the numerous things White people created, be it technology, sports, holidays, entertainment, etc. Even our hairstyles, hair textures and colours (blonde & red) are appropriated by Black women.

Why is it so hard to create NEW characters, with their own names and back stories, instead of appropriating pre-existing historical and fictional figures and characters from white people all the time.

What part of "fictional" do you not understand? Do you think this is unprecedented?

Alexandre Dumas who wrote The Three Musketeers was Black

[quote] The author took the surname of his paternal grandmother, Marie-Césette Dumas, who was a woman of African descent and a slave in Saint-Domingue, which is present-day Haiti

Also (a short list of )actual Black human beings portrayed as or by white people include::

Othello played by Laurence Olivier & Patrick Stewart (among hundreds)

Mariane Pearl played by Angelina Jolie

The Lone Ranger played by at least 8 white men

P.S.

Shakespeare was probably a Jewish woman.

She looks good and she looks like she is having a good time. People will hate on anything.

Wake up, r54: your wish has been granted

R62 if you care that much about a cartoon character then you need to get fucked.

Literally anybody can get some dick if they put their mind to it. Get some sex and stop making everyone else so miserable.

She must stink worse than death

P.S.S.

[quote] Ariel, a DANISH Scandinavian character

Hans Christian Anderson lived in Denmark from 1805-1875.

Do you know who was born and lived in Moscow from 1799-1831? The most famous Russian poet of all time who is also the guy who created the character of Don Juan, a legendary, fictional Spanish libertine who devotes his life to seducing women.

Alexander Pushkin

And he was Black

A person of color could literally play Bethovens 5th symphony while snorkeling upside down and executing the choreography from Madonna's Vogue perfectly, and DL elder posters would say they weren't talented.

To be fair, R70, NOBODY could ever possibly Vogue as well as a Datalounger who was celebrating his 30th birthday that spring when it was released in 1990...

r63 it the anagram of all these gingers being turned into black characters... the pattern is disturbing.

What in the world is going on here? Who is this lunatic?

She can play JM's flute, a crystal flute, the skin flute, a flauta - just put some damn close on hunny. Ain't nobody want to look at that.

"just put some damn close on hunny"

Oh, dear!

Who knew she had flautulent tendencies?

She looks like that ‘Little Britain’ character…Bubbles DeVere.

Lizzo is so pretty, talented and has a great height that can be dressed to her advantage; why does she insist on these getups?

Actually she wasn’t that bad on the flute. She’s big, but she doesn’t try to pretend anything else, like Mariah. Who is huge and has lost her voice but tries to pretend she is still interesting as a Diva.

It's a fictional character, r62

Take a pill and chill the fuck out.

I wish you snowflakes would get that outraged over something important, like climate change.

My new drag queen name is Krystle Flute.

I see the white supremacists here are taking a break from their Markle obsession to bray about Lizzo.

She's a slob. Doesn't matter what color she is or what her net worth is. She's gross.

I'm glad she at least didn't attempt to try it on and rip it in two.

Wiping Lizzo's saliva off the flute before putting it back in storage would be racist.

r82

r82 so, do you support eugenics? Perhaps buy into noble savage tropes? Feel like this is racially uplifting a demographic into whiteness?

White people are losing their shit over a damn flute!

R93 I thought it was black people who were up in arms about it? Silly thread.

[...]

Morbidly is now a fashion statement?

R20 That's good!

I'm pretty sure Dolly played James's flute during their lifetimes.

So she’s a fat bitch that can play an instrument. She’s like every heifer from my high school marching band. If they marched more they would weigh less

please watch this 66 second video

R91 is losing their damn mind over Lizzo playing the flute.

Seek help, dear.

So a modern pop star actually has a tangible musical talent?

Well that's a novelty.

I think Mickey Mouse should be played by a rabbit. He's fictional. What does it matter?

Warch some of her videos before she got ...big...yes she has talent.

Leave it to you r18 to make it about race. Fucking Nazi cunt

No surprise that R62 is a foreign cunt. Europeans are racist shitheads. There isn't enough bandwith to go through the countless times films/TV had white actors playing characters who were NOT white or that inventions that STARTED in places other than Europe were then appropriated by Europeans. So when you stupidly claim non-whites are using this or that, you leave out the actual beginning of many of those innovations. I couldn't give less of shit about some Danish fish, but what I know is that it takes racist whites literally NOTHING to become apoplectic. They get stupid over anything resembling fairness.

And for any moron who thinks Lizzo can't really play it, go to 40secs in:

"James Madison (who I think was a president)

had a flute (that I didn’t know existed)

and Lizzo (who I am unfamiliar with)

played this flute (according to a picture I saw online)

and I am outraged (for reasons Ben Shapiro will tell me about later)"

Certainly the only black person, OP!

R108 That video has already been posted.

Are your ears incapable of recognising bum notes? That is far from a talented flautist. But hey, I'm not begrudging anyone their gimmick, but I think this part of her talent is ALL hype.

R111 is a flautist expert! Oh, my sides!

R112 Circles don't have sides.

And you can't fit a square in a round peg, R113.

r102 Nah, I defended her further up. . . that shit was in regards to the racial swapping, hand me down, characters that people want to celebrate because they think black face is progressive. Which is all it is when it comes to shit like we going to ignore your stories, so we can sell you as white, familiar and comforting... y;'all didn't rage your azz out when they destroyed Monica Rambeau's stronger origin story, nah, and frankly, we could dig this back to how Birds of Prey did actually rip off an original black character but that escapes notice because y'all aren't invested in that scene and only want your minstrel show like a hundred reboots of the same damn movies with only cosmetic changes...

Does anyoneunderstand the rant of R115?

R105, why has everyone forgotten me?

r116 Nah, because you don't know the history of black face when black people had to perform in it for white audiences, do you? Nor are you invested in actual, legit diversity. . so, you yaaaasss queen like these racial uplifts as equality rather than the backwards racial tripe that it is... there's not a lack of black stories, characters or history. Also, again, wtf is with all the obsession of gingers to the black. That anagram shit was a racist meme but come on, now it's pushing onto truth.

Are you even familar with how many original black characters have been destroyed by this ongoing bs? educate yourself, if you can't understand a bloody thing I am talking about. It ain't hard to find.

Someone needs to wash all that sand out of her vadge. Looking at you, R118. Oh, and by the way, go fuck yourself, you patronizing twat.

R114 But you can keep talking nonsensical shit.

Sure, hunty, R120.

She really is a Wonder Woman

It's so obvious Lynda Carter hired a college intern to write her Twitter posts.

What horrible thing did Madison's crystal flute ever do to warrant such disrespectful handling

All kidding aside, the fact that she can play the flute makes me a little bit more intrigued by her story.

She can stick it up that flabby, stanky ass

She really does seem to have a need for attention. What does she do that makes her so special?

R127 Fuck all. She just does it with fat on. She's like candy for the obese generation.

That other Madison can play the skin flute. Or so I've heard.

It’s the outfit she wore not the flute that was the problem. If she was thin it would still be disrespectful

She puffed into it and twiddled a little trill. Big fucking deal. Is that talent? And her clothes make her look like a grotesque toddler. She moves like she's embarassed about what she's wearing.

No one thinks that a black female superstar playing the flute of a slave owner has any significance?

It can't be that you're mad that people are paying attention to blacks.

I have no opinion about this Lizzo person one way or the other. But the fact that she played a glass flute and it made Jenna Ellis shit blood means I am perfectly happy with the specific outcome.

You really can judge people by their enemies and she made the right kind of people insane with rage.

NEW YORK CITY, NY — After musical artist and professional twerker Lizzo made waves by playing James Madison's crystal flute on stage, Beyoncé upped the ante by performing in Times Square wearing George Washington's false teeth.

"Howth ethyone doointh tonighth?" yelled out Beyoncé to the confused crowd while adjusting the lead-tin alloy and horse teeth dentures. "We haf a great showth for youf!"

The Library of Congress confirmed they had loaned the priceless historical artifact to the singer, allowing her to be the first person to wear the teeth since a coroner removed them from dead George Washington's mouth over 200 years ago.

"History is so cool," tweeted Beyoncé later that night. "I wore Washington's teeth! What an honor!"

Pundits on the Left praised the stunt as a powerful way to "stick it to the slave-owning founding father." Conservatives cried foul over the "desecration of one of America's greatest and most beautiful treasures." Beyoncé's record label claimed victory as the event led to a slight uptick in web traffic and sales for the singer.

At publishing time, representatives for Megan Thee Stallion also joined in, confirming plans to have her twerk while wearing Lincoln's top hat.

Just stunning. So woke. So brave.

R135 I prefer Lizzo playing some crystal flute to whatever that is.

[quote] the outrage over Ariel, a DANISH Scandinavian character, being race changed into an African American woman, is because people are sick and tired of the double standards regarding cultural appropriation?

That’s funny R62 I don’t remember Ariel’s danish accent from the first film. Were you upset by that or is whiteness / race the only identity concept that matters to you?

Gen Z is just happy that she played a slave owner’s flute and are pissed that she didn’t burn it afterwards.

And Kim Kardashian’s destroyed Marilyn’s dress. People have no respect for history anymore. It’s only going to get worse. Cardi B will probably be out there stripping in Lincoln’s hat soon.

It just sounds fat OP.

It's not about cartoons, R67. It's about the hypocrisy and double standards regarding cultural appropriation. PoC routinely appropriate from white Europeans while constantly accusing "white people" of appropriation. They can't have it both ways.

Oh, and for your information, the *Danish Scandinavian* folktale of Ariel is centuries old. It predates the Disney movie and Hans Christian Andersen's story about her. If the races were reversed, say Ariel was African and she was race changed into a white character, poc and their subservient white woke pets would be screeching about cultural appropriation.

The Scandinavian folktale of Ariel predates Hans Christian Andersen by centuries, R69. That has no relevance to the point being made about the double standards regarding cultural appropriation.

It doesn't matter if Ariel is a fictional character, R82. The point still stands about the hypocrisy and double standards regarding cultural appropriation.

Anne Boleyn was a real woman, not a fictional character, and she was race changed from white to black in a Netflix (I believe) film. It's hypocritical BS.

Erasing white redheads and replacing them with black women with fake red hair is cultural appropriation.

Are you thick, R138? It doesn't matter that she didn't have a Danish accent in the Disney movie. The Danish folktale of Ariel predates the movie by centuries. A change of accent is not the same as changing race. A white person with an American accent and a white person with a Danish accent are still white..

[quote] It doesn't matter if Ariel is a fictional character, [R82]. The point still stands about the hypocrisy and double standards regarding cultural appropriation.

[quote] Anne Boleyn was a real woman, not a fictional character, and she was race changed from white to black in a Netflix (I believe) film. It's hypocritical BS.

Jesus

[quote] A white person with an American accent and a white person with a Danish accent are still white..

And there you have it.

It’s nice to know she’s actually a talented musician and not just another half naked pop star.

She’s very talented, the racist trolls can fuck off.

R146...Danish folktale? "By centuries"? Are you really this fucking stupid?

The racist are melting down that a “legendary” flute has been somehow desecrated.

They had actually never even heard of this flute until yesterday and they would never have a problem with Taylor Swift playing that flute

...and yet this is the guy conservatives want for Brazil...

R153, I’ll vote for the fascist because he’s got rhythm!!!

For all the jackasses getting upset over this, please, get louder, get more upset.

Makin' me richer, fuckwads.

So ironic that the people who really, really, really don't want to talk about history create occasional to learn about WTF things like this:

And another interesting tidbit. One of the comments:

[quote] I'm a flute player playing mostly on a Boehm-style flute. I recently purchased a historical flute from the late 1800's. It's like learning a whole new instrument.

[quote] I picked up saxophone easier than a historical flute.

Flute - Flautas - Fupa

Looks all the same to me

Nobody, especially the sewer MAGAt rats whose own parents want their spawn equally violent or just ignored, could possibly understand that Lizzo was classically trained by a maestro at the University of Houston, right? They probably don't know what the fuck this even means. Their unflappable ignorance and hate precede them. They could never understand why that black woman got such a privilege, even as they don't understand why their own unexceptional kids don't get recognized because they can cock an assault weapon at 14 and have nothing to contribute to society. Other than their undiffused hatred of anything that isn't like them.

She has more right to play that flute than the degenerates who hate that they just found out the flute, or James Madison actually existed

So are people going to stop going ballistic if a white girl gets cornrows on her beach vacation or that still offensive desecration?

Everyone knows this is actually about a fat black woman who won't cover up and hide herself.

Standards for you, but not for me.

People like R160 really really really really want to say the n-word and are mad they can't any more.

R160 Happy not to see those stupid bitches with that stupid hair. Sad that black people lost their jobs.

Sure R163, pointing out hypocrisy makes someone a racist. Your fascist world of absolutes is (as you would say) EXHAUSTING

She could drop a few.

New Ariel is black because of the BP oil spill.

I don't give a fuck if Lizzo plays that flute with her pussy. Madison was an elitist motherfucker.

[quote]...our government ought to secure the permanent interests of the country against innovation. Landholders ought to have a share in the government, to support these invaluable interests, and to balance and check the other. They ought to be so constituted as to protect the minority of the opulent against the majority. The senate, therefore, ought to be this body; and to answer these purposes

If Taylor Swift was playing that Crystal flute made probably interrupt the news.

No this LEGENDARY FLUTE has been desecrated by a Black Woman!!!

By the way, like Jefferson, Madison also had a black family.

^^^ See R156

The Little Mermaid is not of folkloric origin, but of course there are European tales about magical half-human sea creatures. There are similar African tales, too.

She looks like an overstuffed burrito. There's nothing empowering about stuffing your fupa into a tiny leotard and walking around half naked.

The Wall Street Journal commends her historical reverence. I won't disagree, but I wouldn't expect this opinion from them.

R175 "True her performance was vulgar."

Again, nothing to do with the flute, and everything to do with a scantily-clad obese black woman daring to do a trashy little twerk on stage.

But of course, just saying that would make them look rather pathetic, so they have to try to make it about the flute.

^^^The only correct way to play a flute is the way they approve of.

[quote] "True her performance was vulgar."

Wow, It's amazing that WSJ would stoop that low. vulgar? hardly.

Twerking and cursing is part of her stage persona.

Did anyone really expect her to kneel down and grovel to the flute?

Madison raping a black woman and forcing her to bear his children is pretty vulgar

Why stop there, R165? Why not dress up at Aunt Jemima and put on blackface? You'd be only POINTING OUT HYPOCRISY!!! Because you're a TWO-FISTED TRUTH TELLER!!!

And not at all a resentful racist piece of garbage who is mad black people are shaming you for imitating them.

It would be hilarious if Lizzo is like "Fake out! There is no real Madison Crystal flute!"

R182 It's just plastic, they broke the crystal one years ago.

I'm lyin', but I did please myself with it before giving it back.

R182 Or, even better, she peeled off that big fat suit and she was skinny all along.