I think nepotism has now killed the creative industry, but why do people act as if a famous person’s parents being well known is some kind of “gotcha!” against them. Adding to this, I’ve noticed some strange valorization of poverty in various online circles, Because a person didn’t grow up wealthy, they are automatically more noble and pure and deserving of acclaim.
Why does everyone online who uses the term “nepo baby” come off as insanely smug and sanctimonious?
by Anonymous | reply 37 | September 30, 2022 11:42 PM |
Also I’ve noticed people pretending that having white collar parents is the same thing as being the heir to an honest to god fortune….ridiculous! And before any of you start with me, both my parents were standard level office workers.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | September 27, 2022 10:37 PM |
Valorization? Ok.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | September 27, 2022 10:38 PM |
Wealth and celebrity worship is toxic and people are sick of the ‘nepo’ culture.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | September 27, 2022 10:39 PM |
Whose standards are you talking about, regarding your parents’ ‘standard’ job?
Op is whining about unruly poor people.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | September 27, 2022 10:42 PM |
R2 I’m (regrettably) in some far left online circles because I volunteered for the Bernie Sanders campaigns and people talk about the “the working class” (such a large group you can’t really ascribe any traits to it) as inherently noble and wise in the most condescending way possible.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | September 27, 2022 10:42 PM |
R4 My dad was a programmer and my mom was a receptionist, and both weren’t paid much. I grew up middle class in a very wealthy area.
Most of the people talking about this shit aren’t poor. It’s all Twitter “socialists”, most of whom graduated from cushy liberal arts schools and have jobs writing for online media rags. The hypocrisy is what makes me annoyed, I think. These people maybe two steps away from being a “nepo baby.”
by Anonymous | reply 6 | September 27, 2022 10:46 PM |
people need to hate something, so the 1% justifies their hate against their betters. . .
the meek shall inherit the earth, yadda yadda yadda... but most of these bitches have no love of the 1% at the other end, either. They just want somebody else to do it until they arrive at the magical salary where the govt takes 40% of their earnings to give to everyone else..,. like lotto winnings.
That's a fun one too, all the people that claim they don't win THAT MUCH just enough... but it's never just enough either. And they'd never consider themselves the 1% because that's always higher...
like the deisre to keep up with The Jones but do better than the Smiths.
Really, would you rather be stuck with nepo babies or bebe's kids?
by Anonymous | reply 7 | September 27, 2022 10:51 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 8 | September 27, 2022 10:51 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 9 | September 27, 2022 10:53 PM |
Blm has made everyone hate white people including white people. Worse if you have cash. It’s a sick dark energy movement.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | September 27, 2022 10:53 PM |
I know what you mean OP.
It’s funny because nepotism has always existed in entertainment (and everywhere) and these fools are seemingly just noticing the “nepo babies” now and are OUTRAGED.
And yes - they LOVE pointing it out. It’s bizarre.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | September 27, 2022 10:57 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 12 | September 27, 2022 11:06 PM |
OP, on things and issues I care about, nepo babies getting their feelings hurt is pretty low on the list.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | September 27, 2022 11:17 PM |
I've only noticed the trend for calling out "nepo babies" here, and it's totally annoying to witness a new idiotic term being born. I've lived through problematic, moreso, sooner than later, ... any number of "me too" phrases that people repeat mindlessly. I guess we'd better get used to "nepo baby."
by Anonymous | reply 14 | September 27, 2022 11:43 PM |
R14 I don’t even understand the point of “calling it out.” You can’t control who your parents are! It’s fine to follow your parents into every profession except acting and the arts?
by Anonymous | reply 15 | September 27, 2022 11:50 PM |
Nepotism is ruining the mystique of Hollywood. It's revealing itself to be a dynasty of elites at this stage in its development. I don't care if your parents were rich, but if they are elites in the industry and their kid becomes a star in supposed to care about, I simply cannot.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | September 28, 2022 12:08 AM |
The "nepo babies" troll is mostly one troll. De-Facto. Enraged that some liberal Hollywood performer might have talented children. All you have to do is mention the nepo babies of Doanld Trump and they shut the fuck up.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | September 28, 2022 4:27 AM |
I like the term nepo babies. Name them and shame them. I’ll start: Lena “Lens” Dunham.
She would never, ever have the career/status/mentorship of Judd Apatow if she were the daughter of a Staten Island secretary and insurance salesman who own their own home and have a backyard pool.
She would have gone to Wagner College, majored in Communications and become an admin staff at a law firm in Manhattan. She would ride the Staten Island ferry every day.
If creatively inclined, she’d dream about being a writer. But she would also know she was nothing in the scheme of Manhattan life.
She would be on a diet, all the time. Always breaking the diet.
She might find a guy to date/ hook up with. But it wouldn’t be a popular musician/producer.
She wouldn’t even get the homely guy she has now, because he’s likely a gold digger.
Her mother is from Rockaway (Queens), from the middle class. Mom married the trust fund puffy pussy painter, Lens went to St Ann’s, to Oberlin, and here we are. A big fat nepo baby.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | September 30, 2022 5:54 PM |
R15
The point is to acknowledge that some people in highly competitive fields have career-determining advantages that others do not. It's important to remember that the American Dream is for many, just a dream, a fantasy.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | September 30, 2022 6:16 PM |
People who are born to wealthy parents have an advantage. Others who make it on their own are more accomplished.
What's so hard to understand?
by Anonymous | reply 20 | September 30, 2022 6:17 PM |
R20
It matters because our culture minimizes the advantage of being wealthy and connected and suggests that if you aren't and don't succeed you aren't talented and hard-working.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | September 30, 2022 6:22 PM |
We must glorify the proletariat.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | September 30, 2022 6:25 PM |
R22
Who said that? If you want to make an effective answer, you're going to have to explain what I wrote was untrue.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | September 30, 2022 6:28 PM |
That's true r20. I was responding to some posts but admittedly i didn't read many of the others. I should have also mentioned the disadvantages faced by people who are not born rich keep them down and we glorify the self made exceptions.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | September 30, 2022 6:34 PM |
R24
It's survivor bias. People who succeed without the benefit of money and connections are celebrated but we ignore all the other people who could have succeeded had they had money and connections or luck. It's helpful to the culture if any failure is only attributed to the individual. You just weren't good enough. You didn't have it. Obviously, I'm not saying that everyone has the talent to succeed.
Nepotism and the general benefit of wealth and connections are not called out nearly enough.
If you're not connected and rich, should you obsess about it? Of course not. What can you do? But it helps to keep it in mind and for people who are in a position to create programs that give outsiders a chance to do so.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | September 30, 2022 6:40 PM |
R25
I, incidentally, have never used the expression "nepo baby." But I see nothing wrong with it if deserved.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | September 30, 2022 6:42 PM |
[quote]Who said that? If you want to make an effective answer, you're going to have to explain what I wrote was untrue.
да товарищ
by Anonymous | reply 27 | September 30, 2022 6:43 PM |
I don't think being poor makes you inherently more talented. It's the arts, wealth or, lack thereof, does not indicate skill level.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | September 30, 2022 6:43 PM |
R27
До свидания
by Anonymous | reply 29 | September 30, 2022 6:44 PM |
R28
I never said that. That's OP's contention.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | September 30, 2022 6:45 PM |
R10 that's completely ridiculous. And I agree with OP as well. The people getting shot in their backyards, while jogging, in their own apartments and other places while minding their own business seem to be mostly Black. And that is the point of the whole BLM movement, not hating whites.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | September 30, 2022 6:58 PM |
Deep Thoughts, by...
by Anonymous | reply 32 | September 30, 2022 7:02 PM |
R21, define success. Maybe success isn't the same for everyone.
Our culture does not minimize being wealthy. It's covered constantly as are those who have it. So maybe get a bit of a personality and don't be defined by what someone else thinks is important. Then if someone else disagrees with your own standard of success, you can simply ignore them and keep doing what you are doing.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | September 30, 2022 7:08 PM |
Some people are just inherently better than others.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | September 30, 2022 7:11 PM |
[quote] So maybe get a bit of a personality and don't be defined by what someone else thinks is important.
It's easier to get some personality or to be maverick without suffering economically as a fringe eccentric when you can hire a PR team.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | September 30, 2022 7:14 PM |
R21
Our culture also exaggerates the ability to succeed by talent and hard work alone. One example, which I learned in college decades ago, was the way Horatio Alger's novels or at least the idea of them has changed over time. His heroes were poor boys who by dint of hard work rose to the middle class. They weren't wealthy. But over the years, "a Horatio Alger story" began to mean from rags to riches. The modest but substantial success wasn't sufficient.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | September 30, 2022 7:38 PM |
R35, or you could change your values. I'm not rich but I have friends, family and I'm comfortable. I don't have to be a multimillionaire or have the latest thing to feel successful. I generally enjoy my work though it took me awhile to get there. I can't imagine wasting my time envying that lifestyle.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | September 30, 2022 11:42 PM |