Hocus Pocus 2

Because it was”the motion picture that was made because America demanded it!”

The original movie wasn't a box office smash. It was one of those 90s kids movies that gained popularity through cable airings and VHS rentals.

[quote] "The original movie wasn't a box office smash."

Correct. It didn't help that it was released during the summer, as opposed to capitalizing on the Halloween theme, with an Autumn release. I remember my cousin discussing it at my grandmother's annual summer picnic. He said it was "alright".

I like the original quite a bit, though I can't remember when I first saw it.

Today anything with even a hint of brand value is exploited to the nth degree. The first was a small movie that became more popular on cable and in video rentals. Bette had come off her string of 1980s hits and For the Boys had underperformed. SJP was in her supporting actress phase and Kathy Najimy was grabbing what she could after her career high of Sister Act. They were more than the sum of their parts.

I live in Salem, MA. We are already over it. Note: Kathy Najimy while filming here did a very charming taped welcome greeting to incoming Freshman at Salem State University. Love her.

The original has nice fall new england footage. Beyond that… it’s a little meh. But generation britney worships mediocrity.

I don't think the original is mediocre at all. It's aged well and is still good fun.

I'm looking forward to the sequel, but I don't have Disney+. I'm hoping it'll be available on other platforms eventually.

Najimy while filming here did a very charming taped welcome greeting

- Taped?? that's not very generous of her.

It was fabulous. Absolutely Fabulous.

Did they find a threesome as ugly as Bette and company? Or, gasp, are they all back as ugly crones?

I wonder how much they make on the marketing side of Hocus Pocus. It's kind of a year round thing, though it really ramps up in the Fall, obviously.

Must be a LOT.

The original film IIRC was released in the summer. Was not a shock that it flopped in original release. I still remember the heavy marketing.

Subsequent seasonal airings on places like Disney Channel and ABC Family (subsequent Freeform) made it a beloved holiday fixture, much like how It’s A Wonderful Life and A Christmas Story also became beloved seasonal classics despite indifference during their original releases.

And I will also add, the original is not a good movie and was critically panned for its hyperactive and grating tone. But it had a wonderful fall and New England atmosphere which won it affection during autumn viewing.

The original was a good movie. That's why it was able to find its audience years later.

It's funny that Kathy Najimy was the biggest box office draw in 1993 following Sister Act, which Bette turned down. SJP had Honeymoon in Vegas (flop) and Bette had For the Boys...

Is it gay heresy to say that Kathy Najimy is funnier than Bette?

R16 Nope. She was the funniest one in the original.

Bette was funny in First Wives Club though.

It's a cult classic that endured time. It's been a seasonal fixture on Disney Channel and later ABC Family/Freeform for over three decades. Plus there aren't that many Halloween movies in comparison in Christmas movies. Disney horror/fantasy movies tend to be quite a lot of fun like The Nightmare Before Christmas, Escape from Witch Mountain, Halloweentown, The Haunted Mansion, Under Wraps, Phantom of the Megaplex and Tower of Terror.

Don't Look Under the Bed is another great one too. Wouldn't mind a sequel to that either. It was considered scary enough to not be replayed a lot.

DL was all over it because apparently Froy has been canonized into sainthood by DL gays. I’m sure he was great in his role as the cute gay best friend.

[quote]Najimy while filming here did a very charming taped welcome greeting - Taped?? that's not very generous of her.

They would've done a tapped one, but Ann Miller's been dead for years.

I never saw the original so the other day I watched it on Disney+. I couldn't make it halfway through. It was wayyyyy too loud and unfunny. I have a coworker who has an annual viewing party with family and friends. Yuck.

I’m enjoying the new movie. It’s much improved over the first one which struggled with tone and pacing.

Bored senseless by the first one. Skipping this one.

I also appreciate that the proprietor of the magic shop is a dark-skinned black man, as the legacy between dark skinned black people and magic (the forerunner of the magical negro trope) deserves to be reclaimed.

Isn’t everyone BUT the witch sisters black in this one?

Black people exist you know? And New England has a lot of black people too, shocking, I know. I don't think it has many Hispanics or Asians yet.

Oh Ginger Minj is in this

Christine McConnell made the Sanderson Sister’s house out of a cake!

Haven't you noticed that the left (not as much the right, but still) are circling back into another malicious neoconservative phase with cloying saccharine family values at the forefront?

And let's not even get into the new morality that seems as if it was lifted from 70s thrillers that gave warning to this sort of mob mentality...

It was probably predictable with the extended weight of all things nostalgia and the waves of celebrity hasbeen deaths, which they threw themselves on the ground, screaming it was worse than losing their own parents. . . Millennials are at peak denial of being old and becoming the establishment.. so, they're desperate for escapism because they and Z have even worse war fatigue than this whole russian and insurrection business. no generation before has ever suffered as much as they have been thru.. so, why shouldn't childhood be extended indefinitely?

[quote] Millennials are at peak denial of being old and becoming the establishment.

No, millennials are the first demographic to have been heavily marketed to as a consumer with buying power. They were the first generation with cable television and entertainment marketed 24 hours to them. Hocus Pocus 2 is about millennials claiming the establishment, not denying it.

ETA “ heavily marketed to AS CHILDREN as a consumer with buying power.”

Additionally the new medium of the VCR as well as cable meant that millennials were the first generation to have TV as a reliable babysitter.

1984’s Gremlins, a dark satire about childrearing, essentially predicted how an entire generation would be captivated by babysitter Disney.

Apparently, according to IMDB's trivia page, the theater release of the original was pushed for a summer release to not compete with Disney's other Halloween movie that year, Tim Burton's Nightmare Before Christmas.

Just watched the sequel and it's, well, ok. The camp feels forced and the new cast members are not up to the task. The teenage girls (one of them is on the new Gossip Girl) are rather bland and can't do comedy well. SJP, Bette Midler, and Kathy Najimy are delightful, of course, and you do get a sense that they enjoy being back. And they do get to perform a fun Blondie song (One way or another).

SPOILER ....

I suppose there is a big foreshadowing plot device at the beginning when Hannah Waddingham's character warns the sisters to not try a certain spell from the book. She doesn't say it out loud, but I assume she did that spell and that is why she's alone.

Because the original is super popular with people under 40. I remember seeing the original in the theater and felt there were a lot of missed opportunities, like Disney decided to cut the budget halfway through.

I thought they said they were not going to have the original three but I just saw they were in it?

r36, the teens from the first one are not in the sequel. The witches and the zombie are played by the same actors.

Omri Katz no longer acts. I don't know if they even asked Thora Birch and Vinessa Shaw to reprise their roles. It's not like those two are busy doing anything.

I thoroughly enjoyed it.

I saw the homely one, once. I mean the goofy one. I mean the dark haired one. I was on the Paramount tour, she was driving through the gates.

Just finished watching it. There were some inspired scenes, like when the sisters visit a Walgreens where they drink Retin-A and other "potions" in an attempt to grow younger and a drag queen "Sanderson Sisters" competition. The teens were nothing special.

Hocus Pocus 3

Did Hocus Pocus 2 lose the focus?

I just finished watching it too. Give R34 all the WW's.

It honestly felt like the teens were plot devices with lines.

The teens are so forgetful and have a chemistry and personality of Nickelodeon show. However Froylan aka Mrs Madden looks so beautiful in this. The withes sucked his energy instead.

^ *witches should

The sequel is part of SJP’s Year of Projects No One Wanted.

This wasn't too bad. I thought for sure it would be a total disaster but it was serviceable. I think you have to take that as a win since it's rare that long awaited sequels aren't complete dogshit. It's very similar in tone to the first as well, so if you liked that, this shouldn't be an offense to your childhood memory or some other such nonsense.

Did anyone notice that the teenagers in later scenes resemble the silhouette of The Sanderson sisters ?

I watched it last night and I thoroughly enjoyed it, I think I liked it better than the first one. The movie is campy Halloween 🎃 fun.

I'm not embarrassed at all to admit that I laughed at the Gothic Golden Girls line. The Mayor was quite humorous at times.

There is a surprise if you wait until after the credits roll.

The original was my favourite Halloween film of my childhood. The sequel sucked. It sucked harder than the witches sucked when they sucked the lives out of those children.

Bullshit...it is nowhere near the trainwreck some are making it out to be. Its actually pretty good and grows on you with subsequent viewings.

The sequel I really want stars Stockade Channing and Dianne Weist as the aunts from Practical Magic.

Stockard, not stockade.

Stockyard

Does Mary come out as a lesbian?

r55 it would be too much a horror show with her face. six degrees of separation from her character, married to "IT" for sure but there are worst things she could do. just give them a midnite margarita session on halloween to get drunk and dish.

The teenage girls made no impression. Thank god Froy was there to counteract the ugly. It’s like he just came out of Teenwolf and we were back in the pre Madden days. Oh happy days 🎉

Anything to get subscribers’ minds off Marvel Phase 4.

It's cute enough. They didn't give SJP a lot to do tho

She had next to nothing to do in the first one r62...same with Kathy Najimy....their parts were expanded for the sequel

It was a big, fat "meh". What made the original so special was that it didn't shy away from disturbing imagery and storylines despite being a kid's movie. The children behaved and struggled like children against what were literally demonic forces. This one is three broody kids who act like they have a mortgage to pay up against a trio of quirky old ladies who may randomly break into song at any given moment. I guess that's just the reality of our zeitgeist where children are so wise and so enlightened and so perfect and must NEVER grapple with themselves or face any serious hardships.

And honestly, it's 2022 and they are still pushing the #corporatefeminist and #girlboss stuff? The Sanderson Sisters are serial child murderers, but of course we had to be treated to a generic "misunderstood female villain fighting back against the patriarchy" origin story. I'm gonna say it again: These. Are. Serial. Child. Murderers.

I've never seen the first Hocus Pocus but am wondering if it'll have the same impact as those who have nostalgia and VHS be kind, please rewind memories of it. I finally watched The Princess Bride after ignoring it for decades and I slept through it. Can I pass go and just watch HP2?

I enjoyed it.

Like watching paint dry.

Did SJP do this as to have a project that her kids could actually watch?

I always thought the original had a ton of hype. I remember being irritated by the commercials for it, with SJP saying "amok amok amok amok" while hopping around like a dork.

Is Omri Katz in this one?.....Why Not?....Ageism?

Salem is like 90% white. But don’t tell that to the woke gestapo.

I just realized this movie unlike the original have no "bad guys" ( the first one have the bullies ) . I thought the mayor would be one but he ended to be another harmless one dimensional character.

And there is no romantic connection between the characters too while Max and Allison relationship was a main plot in the first one.

r64 There is a movement in filmmaking right now where the traditional female antagonist will be portrayed as somewhat nicer. You can see it in the latest Cinderella movie where the stepmother were not only nicer but even cared for Cinderella wellbeing . Its part of the "women must uplift each other" thing.

The prettiest thing in this movie is Froy but he's sadly wasted.

I like the quick "breaking the fifth wall" scene where a gay couple watching the first Hocus Pocus.

[quote] "Christine McConnell made the Sanderson Sister’s house out of a cake!"

R29 Those kinds of cakes are cute and all, but I wouldn't dream of eating any part of something that had been so extensively handled. In addition to the fact that I can't stand to eat that kind of fondant.

As I said on another thread, I don't have Disney+ so I won't be seeing this anytime soon. But I am fond of the first film.

Does Disney ever share its content with other streamers? If not, I'm probably never going to see this.

watched the first 35 minutes then turned it off.

R74 not the Disney+ exclusives ( mostly Star Wars and Marvel shows). They "share" in the sense that anything that went to the theaters will generally be on a cable provider and if that cable provider streams those movies will be on that streaming app. Hulu lets you piggy back off of their base plan such that you can add Disney+ for $1.99 . In general if you are not a Disney animation , Star Wars, or Marvel fan, Disney+ is very bad as streaming services go.

IDK why the hell Morbius is on Netflix though.

Maybe in a few years it will end up on the Freeform cable channel (that Disney also owns), as that is where the original Hocus Pocus basically runs constantly in the early fall (and where the popularity of it over the years built, with VHS/DVD before that). But until then, it will probably definitely be a Disney+ exclusive for awhile.

Why not cycle it onto HULU in alternating years?

The Hocus Pocuses are in the tween category, which is stories about teenagers that are really targeted at preteens.

Watched an interview with Bette, Kathy, and SJP on Good Morning America or something, and the interviewer mentioned the witches were creepier in the first movie. That's exactly what worked about the original, and exactly why the sequel falls so short. On paper, the story actually isn't all that bad but the visuals were flat and cheap and the ad-libbed asides by the sister witches were all over the place and not in character. Bette was the only one 100% committed and whatever magic the sequel has to offer comes from her only. I have more respect for her than ever. SJP was especially bad. I felt like I was watching a commercial or a clip that would be shown as an extra in a Disney park.

Yeah Parker did the worst at capturing the way she acted and even the way she spoke in the first one.

Will there be a sequel to Ruthless People while the leads are all still alive?

Ruthless People was one funny movie and Big business was another. Both directed by Jim Abrams.

What does SJP do (or fail to do) that doesn't recapture the character?

R84 Difficult to put into words what SJP got wrong, but one review described the sequel's Sarah as "less embarrassingly coquettish" which gets pretty close to a satisfyingly concise description. In HP, Sarah was an ethereal ditz-- sexy, but arguably the creepiest of the three. Even as the hag in the beginning of the original, she had a girlishness that worked for the character. In HP2 she's been totally de-sexed. None of her mannerisms are the same, and neither is her speaking voice. In an interview she did after HP had just been released, SJP said she was disappointed to see how much of her character didn't make it into the final film so I think that hang-up, combined with her increased status as a major player over the last three decades made her over compensate and act "bigger" resulting in a characterization that bore little to no resemblance to the original. She talks about HP as if she barely remembers filming it so I wouldn't be surprised if she watched the movie the day before filming started for the sequel and decided to wing it. You can tell just by looking at her that she's not occupying the same headspace that Bette was able to tap into and Kathy did a decent job of recapturing.

Can't believe there's a serious discussion of Hocus Pocus and Hocus Pocus 2.

I just streamed it and I thought it was great, better than the first one. Bette Midler was hilarious and it made me sad that she has done so little in the past few years and is now quite u in years. The girl who played young Winifred was a showstopper, she was just like Bette. Our Froy was kind of cringe, playing a 16 year old jock. Watch it, you'll laugh.

Bette showed up. No one else did.

R87 So little in the past few years? There was Covid and the year or two she was doing Dolly on Broadway, not to mention her gardening gig in NYC- and she’s an OLD lady.

Well, as I live in Europe, I have not been able to see Dolly on Broadway. Gardening doesn't sound like comedy.

The good thing is Froy has secured his Gay bona fides by appearing in a movie with Bette Midler and SJP. Aside from marrying Liza, that’s secured in place in Gay history.

The Froy and Madden fans are having meltdowns over people criticizing Froy's acting in Hocus Pocus 2 on social media and other gossip boards. They really can't handle any criticism...

Name a children's story that doesn't have a villain. The fun in watching the Sanderson sisters is nothing works; they are bumbling fools. In the first movie, they did kill a girl, but they paid for it. They were hung.

Most children's stories are about good conquering evil by having the courage to be yourself, trust in yourself and your capabilities, stand up for what you believe is right, etc.

Of course, that sentiment is getting crushed by real life experiences.

R87 I disagree Froy finally nailed a hole for once.. whoops I meant role.

As a side note, I think Froy is now overdue for a rhinoplasty.

Froy's role was so lame. And at the end, apparently, his character gets left behind unconscious in the middle of a street. That's how you get run over, or raped. But that would be too dark for modern day, family friendly Disney+++++ ... infinity and beyond.

There had better be some serious Froy ass to make up for dealing with those fugly bitches again.

Don't tell that to the fansgirls... they're coming for anyone who criticizes Froy's acting in this. The stuff I've seen on instagram is insane. 🤪🤪😂😂

What I couldn’t get over was how much Bette’s and Sarah’s voices had deepened since the first one.

Clearly the Sanderson sisters spent the last 30 years chainsmoking cigarettes.

He's a talented boy, he just needs good erection.

Direction, I mean.

The first movie is a typical cult favorite. It's not a good movie and it wasn't hyped a lot when it was released. It was adopted as a fan favorite because of its stars, its campiness, its stupidity, its badness-but-likability factor. Grease 2, Xanadu, etc.

[quote]Black people exist you know? And New England has a lot of black people too, shocking, I know. I don't think it has many Hispanics or Asians yet.

New England, which consists of the states of Massachusetts, Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, and Connecticut, is 74% white (80% if you count white Hispanics).

Latinos are the biggest minority group at 10%.

Blacks are only 7%.

Thus, lots of all-white towns/schools and 'token' minorities.

I grew up in central Mass. in the '80s and '90s and we only had one black family in the area. Even today, my hometown is 97% white.

In short, the country is not as diverse as has been currently portrayed by Hollywood films/shows, where everyone seems to have family, friends, neighbors, colleagues, etc. who are black/white/Asian/Latino/what-have-you.

R42- Another mediocre HIT in the works like WICKED or Hamilton.

Hocus Pocus 2 was OKAY, but it missed a big opportunity to break down cisgender heterosexual norms. I lobbied for Kathy Najimi's character to fall in love with/stalk a butch nonbinary Latina with spiked purple hair named Q, And Just Like That...I was shut down. Can't win 'em all!

I was 13 when I saw HOCUS POCUS in theaters back in 1993. I too was surprised by its mid-July release amid summer blockbusters JURASSIC PARK and FREE WILLY. I figured that just meant that the VHS release would be in the fall, just in time for Halloween. But, no, it wasn't released on home video until January 1994. So I don't know who dropped the ball there.

r92 Froy is not here for his acting prowess but for his BEAUTY. Thats all.

r97 Great now in my head I imagine headless Billy Butcherson plucking Froy sweet cherry hole right in middle of the street.

Bette really is an old pro. She should have got a GG nomination for the first one

She probably boycotts Harry Potter too.

R103 The country is diverse. Mind you that that white majority consists of English, Irish, Italian, French, German, Polish, Portuguese, Arab, Jewish, Iranian, Hispanic, Albanian, Finnish, Greek, Russian, etc. Not lily white blonde Anglo Nordic Protestant ideal. And black New Englanders do exist mainly in the Boston metro area and in Connecticut which is part of the NYC metro area. Maine, Vermont and New Hampshire are very white though. And there's many historically black rural Southern, Mid-Atlantic, Midwestern and Californian towns. But the point is black, Hispanic and Asian people have been in The US an extremely long time even longer than most white Americans who descend from immigrants that came at the turn of the 20th century.

Oh, good, another racial discussion.

R107 It ain't cherry but you'd never know except how well he takes it.

I remember reading that Hocus Pocus was going to be a big budget, sci-fi, summer popcorn movie; their Terminator 2.

[quote] [R92] Froy is not here for his acting prowess but for his BEAUTY. Thats all.

R107 Of course. But tell that to the fans and fraus...😉

[quote] [R97] Great now in my head I imagine headless Billy Butcherson plucking Froy sweet cherry hole right in middle of the street.

R107 Damn. If only we got that version. 😜

R97 until his cock breaks off in his hole and hilarity ensues.

Froy's nose looks enormous now. I didn't notice it when he was younger.

[quote] Froy's nose looks enormous now.

Watch out, he'll be moving on to character roles like Cyrano de Bergerac.

Growing up he was bullied by the very macho boys.

What happened to all the Froy threads? You search for them, then click, and it’s like the whole website blows up?

R118 I thought they bullied him because they thought his rich father was part of the cartel?

R119 I've noticed that. Like a good handful of threads that were really active are just gone. Another one this morning. Is something going on? Are we not allowed to talk about him anymore? His PR team cracking down?

It’s gay Froy ERASURE I tell you! ERASURE!

How would his PR team get threads erased on DL?

Do a free trial r7. Then cancel.

R119 I just searched for them and opened them, no problem, they all seem to be there.

Conservative moms are going nuts over the new movie -

R126 Those stupid cunts would let Trump grab their daughter’s pussies.

Why didn’t they just get Mayim Bialik to play younger her again?

Froy stole the scenes he was in

The racial makeup of the city of Salem is 81.5% White, 4.9% African American, 0.2% Native American, 2.6% Asian, 0.1% Pacific Islander, 6.7% from other races, and 2.5% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 15.6% of the population (9.1% Dominican, 2.9% Puerto Rican, 0.5% Mexican, 0.3% Guatemalan).

The casting was interesting.

I fucking hate this magician/ storyteller guy, he’s horrendous.

R131 They went out of their way to cast an equally annoying as ugly POC.

r111, take it up with the trolls constantly triggered by the sight of visible non-whites (especially blacks) in movies/television. These snowflakes are seriously breaking down the racial demographics so they can cry about there being too many 'others' in a FICTIONAL children's movie about WITCHES that they were NEVER going to watch. These crybabies won't be happy until all roles in movies and TV are played by the straight, white Christian, conservative Chads that they jerk their puny little cocklette to.

Froy is the only attractive actor in this film. Even the one who plays his gf is only average, and the rest are plain to horrendous, ie SJP.

[quote] Growing up he was bullied by the very macho boys.

R118 Not surprised. He's naturally quite fem. If you've seen pics of him as a kid, you can tell he was probably picked on.

The rest of the article is interesting...like they're trying to over-intellectualize the 'dumb jock/himbo' character he plays. I mean, it's not that hard to figure out, and I'm sure it doesn't require that much as an actor. 😂

Also, I thought this line from the article was quite ironic - “I see myself as a very geeky, awkward, shy person and I’m constantly playing these macho boys who are struggling with their relation to masculinity,” he says. “They’re overcompensating or they’re working very hard to put this masculine idea of themselves out there and that’s something I’ve never really done.”

Is he coming out as a bottom?

r118 Poor baby! But what were those macho Mexican boys ever did to him? Forcefully tongue kiss him on his beautiful mouth? Got him on his knees and made him licked their brown balls? Pull down his panties to revealed his pink coinslot?

I saw a Spanish interview of him and couldn't believe how over-the-top femmy he was, constantly gesturing. Maybe that's related to the language.

[quote] I saw a Spanish interview of him and couldn't believe how over-the-top femmy he was, constantly gesturing. Maybe that's related to the language.

R138 You mean this one -

He’s a proud bottom and he won’t hide that. He won’t post his top on instagram though or talk about him in interviews.

A pleasant sequel, but twenty minutes too long with not enough focus, I still have to finish it. And I wish all the Froy people here (probably just one poster, really) got the fuck off DL already.

[quote] I saw a Spanish interview of him and couldn't believe how over-the-top femmy he was, constantly gesturing. Maybe that's related to the language.

No that’s his real mannerism and speak. He has been told to butch it up for his career. He’s Madden’s bottom for sure. Nothing wrong with it.

He should have joined one of those Mexican gangs as a kid for protection from the bullies.

Watching it tonight.

I thought the gringos in Dallas bullied him because his father was Mexican (acc to some other interview).

R142 Dickie better treat him right, or I'll rescue the boy and give him a good home.

Can the fucking weirdos endlessly speculating about the childhood of the eighth lead in this movie take their conversation to one of the many OCD spectrum threads about this guy? This movie has a lot of interest on here and it’s killing this thread.

R147 No it doesn’t , Froy is the only interesting thing about this silly movie, besides old Bette.

It's good like the Halloweentown movies (minus the fourth one which sucked due to the lead actress from the first three films being unnecessarily recast).

How was this weekend’s box office?

R150 It's streaming on Disney+. Not in theaters.

froy was great. i bet he gets an emmy.

Froy is more likely to get an enema for this than an Emmy.

They need to remake Interview with the Vampire and Froy would be a fantastic choice.

his nose really does look bigger. but he should leave it alone.

nose and ears continue to grow on men.

R154 They have, it’s a TV show.

Has this Froy boy ever show ass or pinga?

R157 Yes, visit LPSG and click “most liked posts” on the thread.

Which thread R158?

R154, sweetie, they are remaking that and it’s currently airing on AMC.

R159 Froys, possible Richards at this point as well.

Yes I am certainly aware of the AMC version of Interview with the Vampire. I should have clarified that I was referring to a remake of the original film, to which the tv show does not bear much resemblance.

R147 forgets she’s among gay men. Froyilicous bottom boytoy Froy Gutierrez is the only reason to see this trainwreck. Good old Bette tries her earnest best to save this movie but the old gal can’t work miracles.

"It's streaming on Disney+. Not in theaters."

Isn't this a sad reflection of what the movie industry has become?

20 years ago, a movie like this, with this much hype due to its predecessor, would've had a big H'Wood premiere with trailers all over television.

The three leads would get big, gross-number percentages of the box office, etc.

Now, it's on the 21st century equivalent of basic cable.

R164 Honestly, yes. You're absolutely right. They did have somewhat of a big premiere, surprisingly, but nothing like what it would have been decades ago for something with this kind of following. Nothing is what it used to be.

COVID has changed the film industry forever.

The original sucks.

Froy must've paid his pr guy to come on here and speak his name incessantly.

Froy has been discussed on DL since his Teen Wolf days. If someone is shilling, it's Froy himself, not being able to break an old habit.

R168 Paid him on his knees.

Why wouldn’t DL talk anout a beautiful gay actor that is dating a famous closet case.

Froy has been a DL darling since day one, a DL discovery of you will.

Hmm. Good point. Ok. I take it back. Can I do that?

If voodoo were a thing, Froy would feel us opening his hole for action.

Froy must be a hell of a good actor if he can butch it up from the femminess of the Spanish interview.

R175 He doesn’t butch it up that much though.

Stupid film.

It is sad that the trio had such great characters and two LAME scripts.

R176 His voice goes deep when he's taking it.

speaking of. his first scene you can literally see him chewing his tongue in order to sound butch

179 I never heard of that. Chewing his tongue?

R179

Really was looking forward to it, but turns out to be just a poor, boring rehash. Honestly, don't bother. Will re watch the endearing, beloved original, Hocus Pocus.