Why does Muhammad Ali get a pass for impregnating a 16 year old girl in his 30’s?

He also married his wife Khaliah Ali when she was 17 and he was 25 but no one calls him a predator or groomer.

This is the first I've heard of it. I never followed Ali's career. It is alarming, but the only thing I can say is that times were different. Why does JFK get a pass for being a womanizer, sleeping with a mob boss's mistress, and raping an intern and coercing her to give his friend a blowjob?

R2 I actually think JFK does get called out for being a womanizing douchebag. I brought up Ali because we only hear about the great things he did. I didn’t know the bad stuff about him until now.

I'd also like to know who gave Edmund Tudor a pass for impregnating Margaret Beaufort with the future Henry VII when she was only twelve.

News flash: When you take away women's rights and turn them into walking uteruses, child sexual abuse is one of the results.

This is true of a lot of celebrities back in that day.

The honest answer is that people viewed relations between adults and older teenagers differently back. From what the eldergays tell me, no one at a gay club would've batted an eye at a guy in his 30s going after a 16-year-old twink, for example. I actually think that view is probably closer to correct if it's consensual, but then again, the responsibilities teenagers are expected to have are fewer today, so I dunno.

This is why you shouldn’t expect much of the male entertainers and athletes of the past, most of them were degenerates in their personal lives.

R6, you are absolutely correct. I was that 16 year old and though men much older than me picked me up, it was totally consensual, I fibbed about my age and wanted the attention.

The other older men that were friends with them went along with it. Absolutely no one raised an eyebrow.

R8 So you don’t see yourself as a victim?

16 is legal. Next.

Because it doesn't fit the narrative.

He was 24 and she was 16 and it was legal in their state. They got married the next year. It was 1974, and everyone was okay with it. Maybe thought it was a bit distasteful but nothing scandalous.

Now, if it had been his 13yo cousin, that would have been another story.

R11 Agreed. It’s overlooked because of Ali’s boxing abilities and his activism.

Ali was 32 and still married to his second wife so it was not a legal marriage.

R12 He married his wife Khalilah Ali when she was 17 and he was 25. I don’t see that as too bad, but the fact he impregnated a 16 year old girl (Wanda Bolton) while he was married to her while he was in his 30’s is what grossed me out.

From Wikipedia:

They had a tumultuous marriage with Ali's infidelities and she accused him of being an absentee father.[2] In 1974, Ali began an affair with his future wife Veronica Porche which resulted in a confrontation between Khalilah and Veronica in Manila.[5] In January 1977, Khalilah divorced Ali.[7] After their bitter divorce she said, "I left him because he wasn't what he said he was, because of his lack of morals and disrespect to the family. I don't think he deserves the name Muhammad Ali, and I'm going to call him Cassius Clay from now on."[2]

The couple had four children, Maryum "May May" (born 1968), twins Jamillah and Rasheda (born 1970), and Muhammad Ali Jr. (born 1972). During their marriage, Ali had multiple children from extramarital affairs including Miya in 1972, and Khaliah in 1974,[8]. Rasheda married Robert Walsh and has two sons, Biaggio Ali Walsh (born in 1998) and Nico Ali Walsh (born 2000).[9]

Oh, sorry, I'm r12 and I apparently have some of the women confused.

Ali married Belinda Boyd, who changed her name to Khaliah, when she was 17. I'm seeing sources say she was 14 or 16 when they met. No idea what's true on that. That was his first wife.

He next met and married Vanessa Porche who was a pre-med student, so definitely of age. He was still married to Khaliah though.

While married to Belinda/Khaliah, he also had a kid with Aaisha Ali (formerly Wanda Bolton), when she was 16. That kid was named Khaliah because why not be an asshole and name your illegitimate kid with your sidepiece after your wife, right?

It's like no one talks about the old rock gods who fucked dozens of underage groupies. Today, they'd be crucified for it. I know some of those women such as Pamela Des Barres are okay with what happened, but I'll bet some of the others felt exploited, even though they were willing and eager at the time.

R18 People call out Elvis and David Bowie. I never see anyone call out Ali tho.

r18 I wonder if today's rock and pop stars hook up with underage groupies?

Because 1974. Different times. I mean, why do Royals in 1770 not get shit for marrying 15 year old brides?

I don't see a problem here.

Because straight, and black. R Kelly will live his life out in prison. If he hooked up with boys or teen boys, he’d be dead.

R3

JFK was a rapist. That's only recently been publicized. The intern wrote a book a few years ago. But few people seem to care.

I have a friend that just turned 50 - when she was 16 in ‘89 she was dating, and the moved in with her history teacher. Lived with him for two until she graduated HS. Everyone knew - her parents, his parents, the school - nobody thought it was unspeakable - just a bit unusual.

She doesn’t see herself as a victim at all — young and stupid yes, and the guy was “a jerk,” but she grew up, moved on and has a great life with a stable marriage & family. While what she did as a teen was certainly not ideal, I don’t see it as worse than the current concept that she should be some broken forever-victim perpetually mired in trauma. .

Because most of the planet are not pedophilia obsessed fraus.

Ali had an average 6 inch cock so nobody was worried about a black Mandingo wrecking pussies. Plus the teen girl was black so who cared what the darkies did amongst themselves.....

R24 The new Marilyn movie Blonde portrays JFK as a rapist.

OP, the only people who care about this are Gen Z teens who are scared of their own shadows, and women who hate the fact men don't desire them in middle age.

Bump

R17 According to this article he met his when she was 10.

In an interview with NBC 6, Khalilah recounted how she met Ali when she was 10-years-old at her hometown mosque. Khalilah said, "He said, 'Listen here little girl. This is my name. Imma be famous. You need to keep that 'cause it's gone be worth a lot of money,'" Khalilah said, mimicking Ali. You'll never be famous with that name. And, I walked away," Khalilah explained.

I don’t follow sports but I watched a documentary and Ali was an asshole to Joe Frazier and I never liked him because of that

Ali being a cocky asshole was his brand - and for a black guy to present himself like that in the 60s he definitely needed the talent to back it up.

I’ve heard he was a lousy father as well.

Well, if it's good enough for the prophet Muhammad.

This here’s the story of Wanda Bolton who changed her name to Aaisha Ali…

Did she change her name to Aisha because that was Mohammed's second, young wife? Just wondering.

Papers were filed in the early 1980s charging Ali with the sexual assault of a minor. Temeca Williams aka Rebecca Jean Holloway claimed the sexual relationship started when she was 12.

She claimed that she gave birth to his child in 1977 when she was 17, but I’m not sure if Ali’s paternity was ever established.

R38 I didn’t know that. It’s interesting how this stuff is swept under the rug when it comes to him. The way people talk about him you’d think he was a saint.

I appreciate the good he did, but he was a dog.

He also met his last wife when she was a child. Here’s a photo of them.

R23, I don’t understand your comment. R Kelly did mess with teenagers. There’s also mention in Surviving R Kelly that he messed with boys/young men, though it was only mentioned in passing. Also mentioned in passing: He made one of his live-in woman victims essentially transition (dress and act like a man) while still having sex with her. So…what were you trying to get at?

Because he was straight, just like all those rock stars.

R35 Careful, you’ll be accused of Islamophobia.

In 2010, Osmon Williams came forward claiming to be Ali's biological son.[165] His mother Temica Williams (also known as Rebecca Holloway) launched a $3 million lawsuit against Ali in 1981 for sexual assault, claiming that she had started a sexual relationship with him when she was 12, and that her son Osmon (born 1977) was fathered by Ali.[166] She further alleged that Ali had originally supported her and her son financially, but stopped doing so after four years. The case went on until 1986 and was eventually thrown out as her allegations were deemed to be barred by the statute of limitations.[167] According to Veronica, Ali admitted to the affair with Williams, but did not believe Osmon was his son which Veronica supported by saying "Everybody in the camp was going with that girl."[168][169] Ali biographer and friend Thomas Hauser has said this claim was of "questionable veracity".[170]

In an interview with NBC 6, Khalilah recounted how she met Ali when she was 10-years-old at her hometown mosque. Khalilah said, "He said, 'Listen here little girl. This is my name. Imma be famous. You need to keep that 'cause it's gone be worth a lot of money,'" Khalilah said, mimicking Ali. You'll never be famous with that name. And, I walked away," Khalilah explained.

He gets a pass because he's dead. Also the real Mohamed married a seven year old. Or was it a seven EAR girl?

He met Lonnie Williams when she was 5 or 6 and promised to marry her one day.

And yet Black Twitter and the white liberals who worship Ali will never call him out for being a sexual predator. They pick and choose who to call out.

Aretha Franklin’s minister CL Franklin father impregnated a 12 year old parishioner.

“Coincidentally” Aretha gave birth to her first child at age 12.

It’s funny how this info is readily available on his Wikipedia page yet no one ever brings it up.

At age 32 in 1974, Ali began an extramarital relationship with 16-year-old Wanda Bolton (who subsequently changed her name to Aaisha Ali) with whom he fathered another daughter, Khaliah (born 1974). While still married to Belinda, Ali married Aaisha in an Islamic ceremony that was not legally recognized. According to Khaliah, Aaisha and her mother lived at Ali's Deer Lake training camp alongside Belinda and her children.[150] In January 1985, Aaisha sued Ali for unpaid palimony. The case was settled when Ali agreed to set up a $200,000 trust fund for Khaliah.[151] In 2001 Khaliah was quoted as saying she believed her father viewed her as "a mistake".[150]

He’s untouchable because of his civil rights activism.

But aren’t Muslim polygamous?

And entitled to have four wives?

Gen Z. You all are pussies and can suck my dead dick!

I married my underage cousin. How do you like them 🍎🍎🍏?

Wasn't Aisha the name of the girl the "prophet" Mohammade married when she was 6 then raped when she was 9?

He doesn’t and didn’t. Ali was not a perfect man Op: flash!

Aaisha Ali is such a cooler name than Wanda Bolton

[quote] He met Lonnie Williams when she was 5 or 6 and promised to marry her one day.

Now that's a Disney fairy tale come to life!