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Chola Madonna’s New Music Video 👽

“I’m so high.”

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by Anonymousreply 135October 3, 2022 10:11 PM

Oh my lord. God please forgive me! What the fukk did I just watch?

by Anonymousreply 1September 21, 2022 12:45 AM

I love weird Madonna.

And this new interpretation of Hung Up is just excellent. Fresh.

The video is challenging.

But the music is undeniable.

Bitch knows how to make a successful video.

by Anonymousreply 2September 21, 2022 1:04 AM

The music is good but I think the video is terrible. She tries too hard.

by Anonymousreply 3September 21, 2022 1:26 AM

Why is Madonna doing this to herself? Is she secretly going broke?

by Anonymousreply 4September 21, 2022 1:29 AM

Chola

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by Anonymousreply 5September 21, 2022 1:30 AM

I'm really upset that Lohan has fallen off the wagon agai....oh thats Madonna, nevermind

by Anonymousreply 6September 21, 2022 5:58 AM

I was watching highlights from last night's Last Word With Lawrence O'Donnell, when I interrupted that to watch this out of morbid curiosity. My mistake.

by Anonymousreply 7September 21, 2022 6:11 AM

I watched because I feel sorry for her. Now I feel sorry for me.

by Anonymousreply 8September 21, 2022 6:34 AM

R2 = Madonna

by Anonymousreply 9September 21, 2022 6:35 AM

This is definitely the lowest depth she's plumbed to date.

The absolute state of her, a waxen mask which is emphasised by the dewy fresh complexions of everyone else in the video.

by Anonymousreply 10September 21, 2022 4:56 PM

Its absolutely terrible!

by Anonymousreply 11September 21, 2022 5:48 PM

Next stop - PORN.

by Anonymousreply 12September 21, 2022 5:55 PM

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by Anonymousreply 13September 21, 2022 6:03 PM

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by Anonymousreply 14September 21, 2022 6:09 PM

Anyone who thinks she isn’t on drunks and/or a drunk is delusional. Even her remaining fan base is done with her.

by Anonymousreply 15September 21, 2022 6:15 PM

She’s 64 and dating a 24 year old. Her son is 22 and her daughter is 26. Talk about gross.

by Anonymousreply 16September 21, 2022 6:16 PM

I have the impression that 60 something women don’t have strong sex drives. Maybe that’s not always true, I’m sure. But depicting yourself doing drugs and getting your pussy pseudo licked by a woman the same age as your daughter screams intergenerational BPD. (Sorry Lourdes)

by Anonymousreply 17September 21, 2022 6:33 PM

She's reminds me of Donald Trump. An obnoxious, persistent, insistent boomer who refuses to listen to anyone and sees themselves as above criticism.

by Anonymousreply 18September 21, 2022 6:43 PM

Her new boyfriend was just on Instagram talking about her and saying he was doing drugs.

by Anonymousreply 19September 21, 2022 6:44 PM

You see a girl snorting cocaine in the video. Youtube allows that?

by Anonymousreply 20September 21, 2022 6:44 PM

r18, she has always slapped her name on other people's work, whether it be music, film, even those god-awful children's books. Trump did the same thing with his buildings. They both came out of the Reagan 80s.

by Anonymousreply 21September 21, 2022 6:45 PM

"Grandma got in the liquor cabinet again!"

by Anonymousreply 22September 21, 2022 6:47 PM

She has disintegrated since that fall she took during her performance at the 2015 Brit Awards. She had her hip replaced for God’s sake. Maybe she got addicted to pills and booze on top if it. This is just sad and lost.

by Anonymousreply 23September 21, 2022 6:49 PM

She debuted this new batshit persona (aside from the 2000s Kabbalah one) at the VMAs in 2018, her first appearance since turning 60. It's been one non-stop trainwreck since then.

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by Anonymousreply 24September 21, 2022 6:52 PM

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by Anonymousreply 25September 21, 2022 6:56 PM

One of the weirdest things she did was that "I am a victim" speech a few years ago and saying that Camille Paglia called her a "bad feminist" (Camille defended her in an op-ed to a woman who called her a "bad feminist". Camille never called her that). Madonna never was one to play the victim until it came into fashion. She's the one who back in the day said that she lost her virginity as a career move. I think we're witnessing the emperor has no clothes moment with her, and not just figuratively. After people like Liz Rosenberg left, Madonna was left to her own devices and this is what you get. Madonna said that her manager Guy Oseary is hardly ever around (she sounds nuts like a stalker in regards to him) and she's constantly rebelling against him. Apparently Oseary has become a father figure for her. It'll be interesting to see what happens when her real dad croaks. Everyone talks about her mother but it's her father that was the real source behind everything she did.

by Anonymousreply 26September 21, 2022 6:58 PM

Women in general don't have strong sex drives compared to men so this is more of an act... or an act of desperation.

by Anonymousreply 27September 21, 2022 7:02 PM

The video,is fine except Madonna is In it. Can’t she see that she can’t play the sex Queen anymore. She should be the rich lady in the fancy car watching others dance.

by Anonymousreply 28September 21, 2022 7:11 PM

I must say she looks just fine in that 50 questions video. Is that old?

by Anonymousreply 29September 21, 2022 7:32 PM

R29 no it’s a new video, just a few weeks old

by Anonymousreply 30September 21, 2022 9:30 PM

Can’t believe I used to actually like her. This is just repulsive. The way she looks, the way she’s behaving, the sheer desperation, the sound, the raping of her old music. I feel like I need to clean my eyes and ears after exposing myself to the hideous shitshow. She has destroyed her legacy and made a complete laughingstock of herself. So sad.

by Anonymousreply 31September 21, 2022 9:30 PM

Interesting comments:

[quote]For someone with such strong personality like M, I've always found amazing how she tends to replicate the behaviors of the people around her to the point of becoming unrecognizable. When she was married with Guy Ritche she morphed into this conforming housewife that made her so angry a few years later, now she's hanging around a bunch of deranged kids behaving like she has no personality of her own.

[quote]I've read that exact same thing about her music/producers throughout all these years.

Psychologists have said for years that this is sociopathy and Madonna suffers from it, right down to her not having a set accent even as far back as the 1980s. Then there’s all the blinking. She’s completely hallow.

by Anonymousreply 32September 21, 2022 9:47 PM

R30, a new video FaceTuned to death.

by Anonymousreply 33September 21, 2022 9:47 PM

The best thing she could do at this point is o.d.

by Anonymousreply 34September 21, 2022 9:56 PM

She's seems to packing on a few pounds every week. Last spring she was fit.

by Anonymousreply 35September 21, 2022 10:17 PM

R35, fat is in.

by Anonymousreply 36September 21, 2022 10:21 PM

Borderline 🎶🎤🎹 Personality Disorder

by Anonymousreply 37September 22, 2022 12:39 AM

[quote]Can’t believe I used to actually like her. This is just repulsive.

Same. I’m almost embarrassed that I used to be a fan when I was a kid in the 90’s.

by Anonymousreply 38September 22, 2022 1:01 AM

Ugly old whore.

by Anonymousreply 39September 22, 2022 3:42 AM

[quote]I have the impression that 60 something women don’t have strong sex drives.

GrandmaDonna is on all kinds of specially-compounded hormones. I know an old lady who got so horned up on estro/test creams that she ditched her now "boring" husband to half-assedly join a throuple with her handyman and his wife. She was ready to sit on a traffic cone.

They had to take her off eventually because of heart problems (related to the testosterone, not the throuple).

by Anonymousreply 40September 22, 2022 5:37 AM

Sociopaths don’t age well.

by Anonymousreply 41September 22, 2022 5:46 AM

She's trending into old tranny territory. She has always had a very peasant look, think Mayim Bialik, almost nothing that you can do to make her very presentable or pretty. Lipstick on a pig!

by Anonymousreply 42September 22, 2022 6:36 AM

I used to love listening to classic Madge music, but she has soiled her legacy and I just cannot generate any enthusiasm for her music anymore. She is SO repulsive. It's sad to watch her decline.

I remember the days when I couldn't wait for a new Madonna album or single or video. Now I just want her to go away.

by Anonymousreply 43September 22, 2022 6:38 AM

I think she has dementia. She looks completely lost in that video…like she’s struggling to figure out where she is or what to do.

by Anonymousreply 44September 22, 2022 6:47 AM

This vid made me LOL. The bitch is OVAH.

by Anonymousreply 45September 22, 2022 8:09 AM

[quote]Oh my lord. God please forgive me! What the fukk did I just watch?

It’s a teaser for the live action Little Mermaid movie.

by Anonymousreply 46September 22, 2022 8:23 AM

I think I prefer Cholera.

by Anonymousreply 47September 22, 2022 8:26 AM

She’s on drugs. I need drugs after watching that. Horrendous in every way.

by Anonymousreply 48September 22, 2022 8:26 AM

The video is like a nauseating porn site pop-up ad that coerces viewers to pay for ad-free porn..

by Anonymousreply 49September 22, 2022 9:19 AM

I was listening to the American Life album recently. I'd forgotten how sweet she sounded.

I think it's my favorite album, or, maybe, Ray of Light.

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by Anonymousreply 50September 22, 2022 9:33 AM

So she lives in a crack den now?

by Anonymousreply 51September 22, 2022 9:41 AM

R50, clean out your ears. That album is horrendous. It’s her stale Kabbalah cult album.

by Anonymousreply 52September 22, 2022 9:48 AM

R52, I tend to tune out the personality and tune in the music.

Call me superficial.

by Anonymousreply 53September 22, 2022 9:54 AM

Who is this Tokischa human and why is Madonna trying so desperately to make her happen? This video prompted me to look up other famous people born in 1958. Michelle Pfeiffer, Sharon Stone, Jamie Lee Curtis, Fiona Shaw, Megan Mullaly, Bebe Neuwirth… and here you have Baby Jane over here dry humping a Puerto Rican female rapper pretending their sapphic May December whatever the fuck this is is hot? The word embarrassing has been used a lot and with damn good reason. I loved Madonna for years but I now just have to pretend that she died during Covid.

by Anonymousreply 54September 22, 2022 10:12 AM

She has surrounded herself with a lot of minimally talented young people.

At least her computer animator is up to snuff and every week does all the social media still photos and gets the live photoshopping of video up to Madame's directions. This person is likely her full-time and reasonably paid employee. Perhaps like Norma Desmond's Max.

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by Anonymousreply 55September 22, 2022 10:55 AM

R5 Wha happened to her neck?

by Anonymousreply 56September 22, 2022 11:01 AM

She's trying to end misogyny and agesim by humiliating herself? None of this is empowering. But I guess as long as people talk about her that's all that matters. Because money and hits she has plenty.

by Anonymousreply 57September 22, 2022 11:05 AM

I know it's 100% not what she wants to do, but I sort of wish she would have taken that offer from Steve Wynn or whomever years ago and done a nice, long Vegas residency. She could have done an amazing show on an incredible set, lip synched 80% of it and raked in a few hundred million in a year or two.

But no, she didn't want to be seen as a "nostalgia act."

So instead now we have her unrecognizable from fillers and essentially being a human sample for TikTok rappers. It just diminishes her and her catalog at this point.

Oddly enough, still a fan though.

by Anonymousreply 58September 22, 2022 1:26 PM

She seemed intelligent in older interviews (90s). It is an absolute 180 something has to be wrong. Excessive cosmetic surgery on a person is also concerning.

by Anonymousreply 59September 22, 2022 1:35 PM

R57 I think more people would talk about her if she looked great and released some decent music. It would be nice to believe that this is all an act. Madonna goes home at the end of the day removes the costume, and becomes pre-2016 sane Madonna. But the woman in the video is authentic Madonna. We have seen the videos of her, the paraphernalia in the bathroom. And she's getting worse, not better.

by Anonymousreply 60September 22, 2022 1:59 PM

r49, it's very, Black Mirror "15 Million Merits".

by Anonymousreply 61September 22, 2022 2:41 PM

A hardcore fan from Borderline up to Music and I tolerated the ABBA rip off. Now I'd happily arrange a mass public burning of her records/books etc.

The scales have been lifted from my eyes- she's a shallow fraud and always was. I'm a fool for ever following her. There is no substance or quality to anything she's done.

Anything of merit or quality was off the back of others. That quality has now dried up as she's chasing younger up and comers with zero to offer her or her fans.

by Anonymousreply 62September 22, 2022 5:41 PM

She’s having fun and having the time of her life right now. Madonna’s achieved everything that others can only wish or dream of. Im pretty sure her next tour is gonna be fun

by Anonymousreply 63September 22, 2022 11:50 PM

Why can't you just like the music you like, R62? Why do you have to "follow" an artist? I'm not judging you - I've just never really understood that.

My attitude toward music, books, etc. is to take what works for me and leave the rest.

She may be a train wreck now, but "Into the Groove" is still a perfect pop song. I'm not giving it up. It's mine now, no matter what she does with her life.

by Anonymousreply 64September 23, 2022 12:09 AM

R63 except I don’t think she’s having fun. She seems damaged, joyless and desperate. Her laboured cavorting in that video was like watching a goldfish flopping about out of its tank. She’s so trying hard to do something and all she can think of is falling back on her old Sex schtick, only it’s the unsexiest and most stomach churning thing I’ve seen in a long time. She’s not even comfortable in her own, nipped and tucked, heavily reconstituted skin; it’s just truly sad to watch.

by Anonymousreply 65September 23, 2022 12:19 AM

R63 is low on the iq scale.

by Anonymousreply 66September 23, 2022 12:52 AM

You know how they say stars freeze at the age they became famous. Madge is forever in her bratty mid 20's. Though she has gone through many transformations, this is the true Madge here. Even with her surgery/procedures/filters, she's not going for even late 40's or 50's but she literally is going for 20-something.

MJ was perpetually prepubescent and Brittany will always be just shy of 18.

This video is so desperate. I think she has developed a bigger following in the Latin cultures as she ignored her initial fan base. Both this album and her last, Madam X, lead with singles in Spanish with popular Latino singers (Maluma). If you go to her IG, a good majority of the comments are in espanol.

by Anonymousreply 67September 23, 2022 1:46 AM

She needs to die and spare us this waking nightmare.

by Anonymousreply 68September 23, 2022 1:55 AM

R64, you’ve copied and pasted that in numerous threads. Enough.

by Anonymousreply 69September 23, 2022 1:58 AM

Yes and latino audiences are much more indulgent about old messy sexy diva entertainers. Age is not a huge sin to that crowd.

by Anonymousreply 70September 23, 2022 1:58 AM

And neither is grotesque plastic surgery.

by Anonymousreply 71September 23, 2022 1:59 AM

The ruling class have an interest in promoting her and whatever she stands for. Even yo granny can and should be a degenerate!

by Anonymousreply 72September 23, 2022 2:04 AM

How many people has she spread herpes to now?

by Anonymousreply 73September 23, 2022 2:13 AM

Amazing! Madge is always so able to plug into the latest cultural pulse points and draw fresh and edgy sustenance from them

No wonder she’s such an Evergreen Career

by Anonymousreply 74September 23, 2022 2:14 AM

The doing blow of it all is just tacky and low rent for Madonna. I think her best and last hurrah was the Super Bowl and it (she) has been going down hill ever since. Social media was the worst thing to happen to her. That and the awful Brazillian butt lift.

by Anonymousreply 75September 23, 2022 2:19 AM

Making return trips to 1998 and 2005 even though the old (younger) Madge would continuously move forward and roll her eyes and sneer at interviewers who would ask her about the past? Wow.

I know she has a reissue campaign coming up but she could've done something more tasteful and age appropriate with class ala Marlene Dietrich or Kylie Minogue's The Abbey Road Sessions album.

But who am I kidding? It's Madonna. "She's the Queen, she doesn't give a fuck and she can do whatever she wants!" this tired old mantra her most longtime fans tend to repeat over and over again not realizing she stopped giving a fuck about them ages ago because looking them in their wrinkled old faces reminds her of her own.

She's just trying to be hip and get down with anyone under the age of 25 and capture new fans who listen to the likes of Billie Eilish, Doja Cat, Lil' Nas X and Dua Lipa all of whom she's trying to poorly skinwalk.

The desperation and the insecurity are so apparent that even a blindfolded Helen Keller could see it from outer space. These young people are either being handsomely paid and/or simply fulfilling their hours of community service by spending time with the elderly.

by Anonymousreply 76September 23, 2022 2:25 AM

She looks like Baby Jane in granny hot pants. I remember when Ray of Light came out and I was shocked because Madonna seemed to be maturing in the most beautiful way.

Now? She is a complete joke.. Ugly, so much plastic surgery that she looks like a wax doll. Really pathetic and I do wonder if the woman has any real friends.

by Anonymousreply 77September 23, 2022 2:43 AM

The bread and butter gay fans that stood by her whole career have aged and moved on with their lives, and she fucking hates their presence at her shows now. Fringe lunatics are the only group that give her another chance to be the radical she always believed she was. For most elderly gays, "living fearlessly" would mean embracing her past. But to come back with them would mean the rehabilitation of her mental and physical health.

by Anonymousreply 78September 23, 2022 2:46 AM

Every single one of those younger people look at her and see a giant drumstick.

by Anonymousreply 79September 23, 2022 2:47 AM

She looks freakish, gnome like and somewhat trollish too.

by Anonymousreply 80September 23, 2022 3:23 AM

Get real to anyone saying this is classic madonna. Something must have happened to her to snap like this. No way did I ever see this woman becoming that creature.

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by Anonymousreply 81September 23, 2022 3:29 AM

Her next tour will flop. She has damaged her legacy beyond repair. The loyal fans didn't come out for Madame X, and this entitled bitch showing up at midnight to give a half-assed show, no thanks. She's gotten so much plastic surgery, she looks disfigured. Who can even relate to her or even want to look at her now? She looks grotesque. She has zero sense of humour or likability. Dolly Parton and Cher have gotten shitloads of plastic surgery, but they have an innate likeness that makes you continue to root for them. Madonna doesn't have that. The rich gays have lost interest and the young kids may listen to her on Spotify but they're not going to pay $400 to attend her show.

Madonna is over. And I say that as a life-long fan. Madonna destroyed her own career. And Guy Oseary is the worst manager (enabler) ever.

by Anonymousreply 82September 23, 2022 3:35 AM

r18 She is a lot like trump. MADGA

by Anonymousreply 83September 23, 2022 5:13 AM

Madonn a could challenge and beat ANY man in a presidential race and win. America would have fallen by then but Madonna could DOMINATE on a debate stage

by Anonymousreply 84September 23, 2022 5:16 AM

LOL.

by Anonymousreply 85September 23, 2022 6:31 AM

R84 = delusional

Hablas español?

by Anonymousreply 86September 23, 2022 7:18 AM

[quote]Madonna could challenge and beat ANY man in a presidential race and win. America would have fallen by then but Madonna could DOMINATE on a debate stage.

How? By doing the splits under his crotch and miming fellatio while he speaks?

by Anonymousreply 87September 23, 2022 7:30 AM

R81 This was exactly the time and age (52 years old) when she needed to step back, and re-calibrate. Her reputation, legacy, and beauty were still intact.

When she did get back next year, it was attached to the hip with Nicki Minaj, chasing a new sound and a pornier image. Her record sales took a hit, and her reputation as a hitmaker dried up overnight.

The other big drop in her personality and self-worth was in 2016, and seemed to coincided exactly when Lourdes was making her transition from a normal, private teen into a model/influencer/sex bomb.

by Anonymousreply 88September 23, 2022 7:55 AM

R69: So you just blatantly make shit up?

I posted that one time. Anyone who doubts is free to check my post history, such as it is.

You're a flat-out liar and I don't understand why.

by Anonymousreply 89September 23, 2022 9:15 AM

R88, Madonna at 50. You were saying?

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by Anonymousreply 90September 23, 2022 2:06 PM

Mmm hmm.

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by Anonymousreply 91September 23, 2022 2:07 PM

Awful. 14 years ago.

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by Anonymousreply 92September 23, 2022 2:07 PM

What a disgusting old hag. I'm embarrassed for her.

by Anonymousreply 93September 23, 2022 2:12 PM

Some sad old crusty cunt, probably JanBot, has saved those 3 pictures of Madonna and trundles them out MULTIPLE TIMES A YEAR to "prove" what a hag Madonna was at 50.

by Anonymousreply 94September 23, 2022 2:32 PM

She thinks it's 1991 and we're all salivating to see who she chooses to 'collaborate' with next.

by Anonymousreply 95September 23, 2022 2:42 PM

Guy Oseary was a glorified street urchin.

by Anonymousreply 96September 23, 2022 3:45 PM

Tokischa is low rent trash. And Madonna is selling her HARD. I agree with the comment up thread that she disdains her older gay fans. I’ve always found her concerts so clinical and cold. Very “leave the money on the nightstand” dead eyed hooker energy. She really tests even her most ardent fans.

by Anonymousreply 97September 23, 2022 4:06 PM

She is an icon for dumb people

by Anonymousreply 98September 23, 2022 5:27 PM

I rewatched the vid again. Now I’m in total agreement with r97’s assessment

[quote] Tokischa is low rent trash.

by Anonymousreply 99September 23, 2022 9:13 PM

She’s so unusual!

by Anonymousreply 100September 23, 2022 9:14 PM

Nip/Tuck predicted what would happen to Madonna.

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by Anonymousreply 101September 24, 2022 1:29 AM

OMG R101 that's spot on.

by Anonymousreply 102September 24, 2022 8:10 AM

Old whore.

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by Anonymousreply 103September 24, 2022 8:39 AM

How long before she talks her cross-dressing son into transitioning for publicity?

by Anonymousreply 104September 26, 2022 3:01 AM

The other girl in the video is pretty good.

by Anonymousreply 105September 26, 2022 3:14 AM

R101 is like spooky how spot on. The grills and all - yikes.

by Anonymousreply 106September 26, 2022 3:19 AM

Ok so the olds are tired of her but maybe she has a new following among the squeee?

by Anonymousreply 107September 26, 2022 3:52 AM

It’s got a great beat. Easy to dance to.

by Anonymousreply 108September 26, 2022 3:57 AM

She’s so obviously copying Karol G it’s embarrassing.

Except Karol G is good and original, and Madge is the copy. She looks terrible.

by Anonymousreply 109September 26, 2022 3:59 AM

[quote] She’s so obviously copying Karol G it’s embarrassing.

Link.

by Anonymousreply 110September 26, 2022 4:46 AM

Pandering to the Zoomers! Hard pass!

by Anonymousreply 111September 26, 2022 5:13 AM

It’s actually quite good and fun. More of this, please

by Anonymousreply 112September 26, 2022 5:40 AM

It's sad to see a diva pander. C'mon old white lady. That's not your music.

by Anonymousreply 113September 26, 2022 7:58 AM

Can't wait to see what she do next......

by Anonymousreply 114September 26, 2022 10:06 AM

Probably OD.

by Anonymousreply 115September 26, 2022 10:30 AM

I could have sworn I saw Madge sport some VPL in the video, but I’m not going back to watch it again.

by Anonymousreply 116September 26, 2022 12:13 PM

^ ^ ^ Go to 2:22. Madge is not even wearing panties!!!

by Anonymousreply 117September 26, 2022 3:47 PM

Don't you miss the days when the legends would die of a drug overdose before their career turned to shit? It spared all the greats from going through what Madge is doing to herself in old age.

Go out on top, I say.

by Anonymousreply 118September 26, 2022 3:57 PM

I’ll take your word for it R117. I just had lunch and I would like to keep it down.

by Anonymousreply 119September 26, 2022 5:59 PM

R110 here you go

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by Anonymousreply 120September 26, 2022 7:20 PM

So, apparently all formerly successful singers whose careers are in the toilet, are trying to capture the trashy Latina slut market? Christina Aguilera has devoted an entire album to reggaeton, pseudo-rancheras and trap, and apparently now Madonna has decided that making a hideous remix of Hung Up and appearing on a horribly tacky video while looking like a Satanic witch from Catemaco, will salvage her career.

All I can say is that I am sorry for both women. Scrapping the bottom of the sewer in order to remain relevant is a sign that you stopped being relevant a long time ago.

by Anonymousreply 121September 26, 2022 7:33 PM

[quote]I have the impression that 60 something women don’t have strong sex drives.

That's probably more to do with their manbaby husbands. Single older women can often be feisty.

by Anonymousreply 122September 28, 2022 2:06 AM

R122 With clams as dry as the mojave, and tits so low they get caught in the zipper of their boot.

by Anonymousreply 123September 28, 2022 2:33 AM

R123 you have a way with words.

by Anonymousreply 124October 2, 2022 4:10 AM

"you have a way with words."

Probably Patrick Leonard or Stephen Bray! ^^^

by Anonymousreply 125October 2, 2022 8:20 AM

If you kill madonna you will discover she has no soul. Just sand.

by Anonymousreply 126October 3, 2022 5:00 AM

r123 I get my dick caught in my zipper a lot.

by Anonymousreply 127October 3, 2022 7:16 AM

[quote]Tokischa is low rent trash. And Madonna is selling her HARD. I agree with the comment up thread that she disdains her older gay fans. I’ve always found her concerts so clinical and cold. Very “leave the money on the nightstand” dead eyed hooker energy. She really tests even her most ardent fans.

Any elder gays who visit her shows now only do so out of a sense of obligation. They care not about Tokischa, or who the fuck ever, and just want her to show up on time so they can fly back home. She really feels the lack of worship from her dwindling 90s gay fanbase and takes it personally.

by Anonymousreply 128October 3, 2022 7:42 AM

Elder gays SHOULDN'T feel a sense of obligation to her. The amount of money I've saved over the years since the American Life era that I would have religiously spent on her concerts, releases, etc I can invest in 'stuff' I actually enjoy and appreciate and remember fondly.

by Anonymousreply 129October 3, 2022 8:23 AM

Elder gays! Elder gays! Elder gays! Lol. You guys do yourselves a disservice. But why does self-hate in the gay community not surprise me?

What is that, some faggot meme here on Datalounge? How gauche.

I liked some of Madonna's music. But I never took her that seriously. And I never saw her as gay man's diva either.

by Anonymousreply 130October 3, 2022 4:07 PM

She's lived too long to be a legitimate gay icon.

Most of our heroines are long dead.

by Anonymousreply 131October 3, 2022 4:36 PM

When is Madonna getting an OnlyFans?

by Anonymousreply 132October 3, 2022 8:15 PM

Madonna gave her gay fans the finger all through the 2000s. The minute her marriage collapsed, she came running back to us for money. Unfortunately, she talked to the gays like it was 1991 again, using outdated tropes and saying shit like sexual preference. She still saw gays as mincing clowns, accessories to entertain her. The worst was when she threw in a bunch of gay kids who killed themselves into her show because Lady Gaga did it

by Anonymousreply 133October 3, 2022 8:25 PM

Madonna is not someone you want to hang out with. She is too self-important and miserable. Cher is someone you want to hang out with.

by Anonymousreply 134October 3, 2022 8:26 PM

Ah, I say fuck 'em both. Hang out with someone tired, foul, and too old to give a fuck. Bette Midler, Bruce Vilanch, Kathy Griffin, etc.

by Anonymousreply 135October 3, 2022 10:11 PM
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