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‘Eunuch’ should be a gender, according to Scottish NHS

Eunuch should be recognised as a formal gender identity, according to documents published by the Scottish NHS.

The National Gender Identity Clinical Network for Scotland (NGICNS) shared the claims from the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) that "eunuch-identified people" were the "least visible" trans group and would benefit from "gender affirming medical care".

The paper was deleted on Wednesday night and the Scottish Government issued an apology, claiming it had been published by mistake.

The paper was uploaded to an official NHS website as part of a consultation over proposed updates to its guidelines, which Scotland’s NHS says it currently follows.

It defines a eunuch as "an individual assigned male at birth whose testicles have been surgically removed or rendered non-functional, and who identifies as a eunuch" and "individuals who feel that their true self is best expressed by the term eunuch".

Eunuchs "generally desire to have their testicles surgically removed or rendered non-functional", the document states.

It adds that eunuchs should be offered "surgical intervention" if there is a risk that withholding treatment could lead to them attempting to carry out a medical procedure themselves.

The paper also provided a direct link to a website which includes graphic and sexually explicit fictional descriptions of child eunuchs.

When signing up to the website, called the Eunuch Archive, users are asked to select their interests from a menu of options that includes "forced castration" and "smooth look".

Other organisations to endorse eunuch as a gender identity are the Royal College of Nursing, which cited it as an "alternative" alongside terms such as "boygirl", "girlboy" or "gender queer".

The controversy follows the emergence of the "Nullo", movement among those who do not wish to identify as male or female.

A 44-year-old man known as the "eunuch maker" was arrested in London in December over claims he had carried out dozens of castrations in his north London basement flat.

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The World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) updated its 'standards of care' guidelines over the weekend.

The 260-page document includes a new chapter on caring for 'eunuchs'.

It even advocates that medical professionals should consider castrating people who identify as such.

The authors of the new standards, which include NHS medics and heads of UK trans charities, argue that castration could help some eunuchs better align with their 'gender identity'.

'As with other gender diverse individuals, eunuchs may also seek castration to better align their bodies with their gender identity,' they said.

'Like other transgender and gender diverse individuals, eunuchs require access to affirming care to gain comfort with their gendered self.'

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by Anonymousreply 20March 4, 2023 10:15 PM

Totally not mental illness.

by Anonymousreply 1September 20, 2022 2:03 AM

"NHS Scotland Apologizes for ‘Eunuch Gender Identity’ Document"

Linked below.

Reduxx has some damning evidence that doctors who are being consulted on WPATH (trans) guidelines enjoy porn that involves castrating young boys.

It is so fucked.

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by Anonymousreply 2September 20, 2022 2:07 AM

WPATH also recommends cross sex hormones before puberty and all cross sex surgeries except dick inversion before 18 now (except apparently if they say eunuch instead of transgender). It's simply barbaric.

Future generations will look at this time period the same way we look at lobotomies, electric shock therapy and frankly, some of these doctors are going to be compared to the nazi experiments doctors.

by Anonymousreply 3September 20, 2022 2:13 AM

R3 rescuechick always restores my faith in women

by Anonymousreply 4September 20, 2022 2:21 AM

❤️ r4

by Anonymousreply 5September 20, 2022 2:28 AM

And you know, the way we kind of look at eunuchs r3, eunuchs that were a very, very big deal from the ancient world until well into the Ottoman Empire. It truly seems bizarre that people look at that world these days and say, yup, more of that. But here we are, though I can't imagine it will last much longer.

by Anonymousreply 6September 20, 2022 2:34 AM

Weren't Eunuchs generally slaves? Should we be affirming someone's desire to appropriate barbaric enslavement practices?

If someone identifies as a double amputee, should we affirm that too? What if someone sees Boxing Helena, and says, "Hey! That's me!" Cut off my arms and legs and stick me in a box on the table. I identify as a quad!

What if that person watches old episodes of American Dad, and sees the Mind Quad episodes. Will that send them down a spiral of dysphoria? Do we need to affirm their identity surgically?

Where is the end point of this? When is it too far?

by Anonymousreply 7September 20, 2022 2:52 AM

R7, it's too far when normal people start showing up and saying it's too far. Get involved.

by Anonymousreply 8September 20, 2022 3:40 AM

BUMP

by Anonymousreply 9March 4, 2023 2:24 PM

We've gone over the edge.

by Anonymousreply 10March 4, 2023 2:30 PM

Maybe this is a gender change we can get behind.

by Anonymousreply 11March 4, 2023 2:36 PM

The Castrati, boys who were castrated to keep their voices high for Church and Opera, did not often have happy lives. Plus, they get really fat.

by Anonymousreply 12March 4, 2023 2:41 PM

R7 most historical eunuchs were slaves, but not all, some were freed slaves, some were respectable citizens and might hold jobs only open to eunuchs -like castrati singers, or courtiers in the Forbidden City.

In ancient Byzantium, Civil Service jobs were limited to eunuchs, so well-to-do families might castrate a younger son to make him eligible for those jobs. To "make a useful citizen of him", as one author said.

by Anonymousreply 13March 4, 2023 3:25 PM

!!!!!

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by Anonymousreply 14March 4, 2023 9:41 PM

Standards of Care for the Health of Transgender and Gender Diverse People, Version 8

[quote] Among the many people who benefit from gender-affirming medical care, those who identify as eunuchs are among the least visible.

Chapter 9 Eunuchs

[quote] Like other gender diverse individuals, eunuch individuals may be aware of their identity in childhood or adolescence. Due to the lack of research into the treatment of children who may identify as eunuchs, we refrain from making specific suggestions.

Fuck!

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by Anonymousreply 15March 4, 2023 9:48 PM

Remember: If you don't support this, you're a hateful Christian TERF who hates the entire LGBT community, think abortion should be a capital offense, want blacks in slavery, and want Trump to be president for life.

by Anonymousreply 16March 4, 2023 9:53 PM

The Eunuch Archive has been a pedophile haven since the late 1990s. It used to be a sub off the body modification forum a meetup place for real German and Scandinavian cannibals in search of other fetishists willing to sub for them.

Their filthy pedophile archive can be easily found cached at the wayback machine. Disturbing material and well known to anyone who's been online long enough.

by Anonymousreply 17March 4, 2023 9:59 PM

One of the people advising WPATH about eunuchs, Richard Wassersug, once gave a guest lecture in one of my classes. This was years and years ago, but I thought there was something off about him.

by Anonymousreply 18March 4, 2023 10:00 PM

R18, how was the seminar? This video summarizes their research and points out he is one of the founding members of the forum. There's a video of him here too. He was outed by advertising his Canadian home for a meeting with other pedophiles.

Allegedly, back in the late 90s and early 00s, Kristoff used to lurk around several IRC servers, specially gay chatrooms and then send random CP of babies being sodomized which granted him the nickname baby Kristoff. I wonder if these creeps will ever be arrested.

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by Anonymousreply 19March 4, 2023 10:08 PM

R19 I'm a fan of Reduxx.

She keeps track of these perverted troons.

by Anonymousreply 20March 4, 2023 10:15 PM
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