King Charles Told Prince Harry of Queen Elizabeth’s Death Five Minutes Before Official Announcement

Harry is selling stories, so Charles wasn't taking any chances?

[quote] Harry is also said to have been devastated when the military uniform he was given to wear to a vigil for his grandmother was not bedecked with the late queen’s royal EIIR cipher, which signify the wearer is a trusted “aide-de-camp” to the monarch, the Telegraph said.

Oh, what a fucking Mary! "Devastated"... give me a break.

These stories make Charles and Buckingham Palace staff look fucking awful.

They're goddamned monsters.

Even the Prime Minister knew about the Queen's death, before her own grandson.

That's just dirty.

FASCINATING

The PM wasn't paid $15 million (if that is the number) to write a tittle-tattle book on the BRF.

But if they told him earlier, what’s to prevent him telling his wife, and her telling Oprah, or someone else inappropriate? They’ve shown little respect to The Firm, so the firm has to protect itself.

Like I said elsewhere, what a bunch of petty assholes.

OP stop making up fucking drama you big ole queen.

The Prince Harry wasn't treated any differently than other members of BRF who were not present at the Queen's bedside when she passed on.

As OP and others in this thread may recall the Duke of Sussex was on a flight to get up to Balmoral when the Queen died. What was HM supposed to do? Wait for plane to land, PH and others to arrive, then tell them all?

But the Queen invited them to visit her in Balmoral, just before her death but they were too busy in their Me Me campaign to visit her and declined the invitation and now they are extremely hurt? He lost his chance of seeing her grandmother a last time because of his dumb pride and narcissist with an agenda wife : MeMe Markle.

Why o why couldn't they settle into a nice $3 million house instead of Maison Montecito? They'll do anything for money now. Russian oligarchs to the rescue with inimate offers?

Doesn’t the fact that this story leaked tell us exactly why Charles didn’t tell Harry sooner?

[quote] OP stop making up fucking drama you big ole queen.

Tell that to the Daily Beast.

They published the article, and thought it was newsworthy, you stupid CUNT.

Harry spent years shitting on his family and the Crown, and he's supposed to be accorded courtesy by the people he shit on why again??

[quote] But the Queen invited them to visit her in Balmoral, just before her death but they were too busy in their Me Me campaign to visit her

Nobody thought she was going to die, you asshole.

She had just met the Prime Minister a few days earlier, and she looked fine.

Harry and Meghan were there for a reason, and they had commitments.

[quote] Russian oligarchs to the rescue with inimate offers?

You're mistaking Harry and Meghan for Prince Charles.

She was 96, dipshit. 96 year olds can drop dead at any time. Harry and Meghan are selfish twats and this is what they get.

I'd also add Harry is a petty little fuck, always looking around at what other people have and crying ME ME ME.

Again this is *NOT* news.

It was well discussed at the time that for various reasons the Duke of Sussex did not travel on same plane as the Duke of Cambridge, Earl and Countess of Wessex, and Prince Andrew. That flight landed at Aberdeen, the Prince William drove the party to Balmoral, but they arrived too late, the Queen had already passed on, and public announcements were being made.

FYI R15 Klan Granny, William was in London too.

Only a short distance away from Harry. Same for the other family members, except for Charles.

They ALL had to fly up to Balmoral.

So go fuck yourself.

R17, nice try but none of the other grandkids flew up except for William, because, he's you know, the HEIR. Maybe Harry doesn't like to admit this but he's just like all the other grandkids now. Were Zara and Peter at Balmoral? What about Bea and Eugenie? Yeah, thought so.

Go to sleep, Harry. You got a big day tomorrow.

[quote] It was well discussed at the time that for various reasons the Duke of Sussex did not travel on same plane as the Duke of Cambridge, Earl and Countess of Wessex, and Prince Andrew.

[quote] That flight landed at Aberdeen, the Prince William drove the party to Balmoral, but they arrived too late, the Queen had already passed on, and public announcements were being made.

They could have called him BEFORE they called the Prime Minister.

That's why it's news.

It shows exactly where Harry stands with both Charles and William, despite their attempts to whitewash this story and pretend that everything is fine.

Everything is NOT fine.

They are treating Harry like GARBAGE, and I'm glad that the world is getting to know what assholes Charles and William really are.

Harry has trashed his family for 2 years and he's surprised they've frozen him out? I'm not sure who is more stupid. Harry or his 'fans.'

Princess Anne was with her mother the Queen at Balmoral when doctors placed HM under medical supervision. She or someone at Balmoral reached out to Prince and Princess of Wales who were nearby at Dumfries House, in Scotland, that is how HM and Queen Camilla were able to make it to Balmoral in time to say goodbye to the Queen.

Harry never shit on anyone. You're just sorry he won't shit on you, R13. You're the SCAT troll, among your other trollish sicknesses.

The whole world is waking up WISE to how Harry and Meghan have been treated during this debacle. Their stories of racism and ostracism and being disrespected have been confirmed and again proven true.

Nobody wins here. But Charles is a racist petty man and the firm is a RACIST and cruel establishment. Camilla is a dried up old whore who has the jewels now. Her husband is inept and who wants THAT face on their money? William and Kate don't like Meghan. They never did.

Diana was not crazy, Neither are Harry and Meghan. The eyes of the world are open.

Harry has been shitting on his family for 2 years. Where have you been, R22? If the BRF is a racist institution then Harry and Meghan should renounce their titles (titles they cling to for dear life) and move on with their lives. Here's a hint, they won't.

R22 = Racist blind/deaf apologist

"They could have called him BEFORE they called the Prime Minister."

No sweetie, that's not how things work.

PM is head of government, and thus it was right and proper she should have been informed first or near top of list that the Queen died.

This is more than about Prince Harry's gran dying, a demise occurred in the Crown which has huge implications legally, politically and so forth.

All of your daytime soap operas were canceled, so now you old queens have to focus on this absurd hysteria.

The transparent leaks aren't going to help Harry win over the public.

[quote] If the BRF is a racist institution then Harry and Meghan should renounce their titles (titles they cling to for dear life) and move on with their lives

So basically what you're saying is that even if Charles, William and all the others are racist, that it's on HARRY to give up his birthright as a Prince, so that he won't have to put up with their racism?

That Harry has to "take it or leave it" when it comes to their shitty attitude, and if he doesn't like it then too bad? Give up his birthright?

You Klan Grannies really are sick in the head.

Time line....

Why should those two be told anything? They are untrustworthy and couldn't be bothered with the Queen earlier in the summer. Too late now to act like they care.

Keep in mind that this is his SON that Charles is treating like shit.

Diana was telling the truth.

Charles is a cold-hearted, evil bastard.

He is selfish and self-centered.

Charles may be King now, but nothing will go right for him until he changes his ways.

R28, you're hysterical. I don't think the BRF is racist and they haven't treated Harry terribly at all. They've given them everything and yet all they do is bitch and complain. So if they hate it so much then move on?

Buckingham Palace is pushing back (for once) and claiming this story is bullshit (source: Daily Mail, which never misses an opportunity to trash Harry)

The alleged story about his late arrival goes as follows:

Queen was reported to be circling the drain, so the family was notified to get in gear, and get to Balmoral. During this time, it's rumored that Harry told Meghan, about this and she got in touch with her PR team. This is when we started getting stories about Harry, and Meghan joining the rest of the family rushing to be there

During this time they were waiting for Harry only on the RAF flight, and when they found out Meghan was with him, they said she's not welcomed. Then ensued an argument that lasted roughly 45 minutes, until Charles put his foot down. This is what delayed the flight with William, Andrew, Sophie, and Edward.

Because they left without Harry, and Meghan, Harry had to secure a second flight. By the time this all played out Elizabeth died. William's party got there shortly after she had died, and Harry was still inbound, arriving some time after.

I don't know how much of this is true, but there were press releases of Meghan going with Harry. There was also someone on Reddit (I know, I know), with supposed industry ties, asking if anyone else heard The Queen was dead, and that is was going around the press circles before William's flight landed. Who knows with this side show. I think they waited to announce once all the immediate family knew (Anne, Charles, Andrew, and Edward)

[quote] Buckingham Palace is pushing back (for once) and claiming this story is bullshit (source: Daily Mail, which never misses an opportunity to trash Harry)

Buckingham Palace has NO CREDIBILITY at this point.

None.

They are proven liars.

The PM has to be told immediately--it's the new King's constitutional duty.

And Harry was not the Queen's child but her GRANDCHILD--one of eight. Why should he expect to have been told before any of the others (other than William, who immediately became Heir Apparent)? I did not go around whining when other people were told of my own grandparents's deaths before I was, and I bet none of you did either.

Nelson Mandela would like a word about that.

The Queen was the Head of State. Legally, informing the Prime Minister of the death of the sovereign and thereby beginning the process of informing the rest of the government apparatus was extremely important.

None of those family members on the RAF flight, all of them closer to the Queen than Harry, arrived before the Queen's death.

This "story" is just another example of the dastardly duo's week long moan fest with ongoing cries of "Poor MEEEE."

What a classless pair.

I sense another hour long interview with Oprah coming on. Poor rich kids.

He doesn't seem like a very nice father, or a very nice person for that matter. As with Camilla, there is very little warmth displayed. The boys don't resemble him (thank god) and they are a constant reminder of the whole Diana thang.

Harry was right. I hope Liz left him a chunk of money and he can back out of England for good (except funerals).

Everyone needs to remember that Harry and Markle were in Europe to promote themselves at the time of queen's death. Of course, no one knew she was going to die on Thurs Sept 8. But he had no intention of seeing her while he was there.

The only day that Harry and Markle had free that week was Wed Sept 7--and they were supposedly busy on Thurs Sept 8 with an appearance in Manchester. After their business on the 8th, Harry and Markle were planning to head back to California without seeing the queen. Harry can go pound sand. He was NOT even planning on seeing his grandmother, so he can be offended all he wants. Harry is an asshole douchebag.

Move along, Harry. We’re becoming increasingly weary of your complaints; especially given your exceedingly poor treatment of your family.

You failed to visit your Gran while she was alive on the recent UK trip, haven’t met your father-in-law who suffered a stroke recently, and you whine about EVERY. LITTLE. THING.

Stuff it and return overseas to your Montecito Mansion where you can “Find Freedom”.

Enough Already.

I don't really care one way or the other whether it's true. It make some sense though; a precaution in case Harry went and told the media before things were ready.

Frankly, he's lucky he was even invited to come back.

He tells Harry. Harry tells Big Mouth Meghan. Meghan's on the phone to Gayle King. It's their own bloody fault nobody trusts them.

Is there anyway we can make them stay in England? Don’t we have enough spoiled ass rich kids already? Does Canada want them back? Everybody seems to like Italy right now.

So wait . . . did the argument with Harry over Meghan keep the others from getting there before the Queen died?

If so the WHOA. No wonder the Sophie death stares.

FWIU Prince Harry "announced" he and his duchess would be traveling to Balmoral. Then Prince of Wales had a fit and firmly told Duke of Sussex it was a family matter and that the dss of Sussex was neither welcome nor was it appropriate for her to be at Balmoral at that time. HM pointed out that the Duchess of Cambridge was not going north to Scotland as well.

How all this plays into next bit isn't clear. But Prince Harry was "denied" a seat on Prince William's RAF flight to Scotland. The Duke of Sussex was essentially told to make his way north best way he knew how..

All this plays into what tongues have been wagging about; Prince Harry seemingly cannot make a move nor go anywhere without Meghan Markel. With one comes the other, often with the pair holding hands.

Will he finally just leave after all this? Isn't that what he wanted to do in the first place?

Co-dependency with brittle American divorcees runs in the family.

R10

Prince Harry received or will $20 million USD for his tittle-tattle book on BRF. He and his fancy woman won't need Russian oligarchs anytime soon.

Between Diana's money and this book deal if managed carefully the Duke of Sussex's fortune is secure. No, Prince Harry and MM cannot keep up with say Ellen DeGeneres, Oprah, Taylor Swift and others in California who buy five, six or ten million dollar properties at drop of a hat, but the Sussexes won't be hurting for money anytime soon either.

Oh forget the Markel woman has that podcast she is being paid vast sums as well.

Here is the article about the flight being grounded. They said it would cause a constitutional crisis if it crashed with Harry on it, and the reason for the delay (allegedly), but George, Charlotte, and Louis the next three in line after William were not on it.

This whole furore is because people forget Harry Windsor is no different than Peter Phillips, Zara Tindall, the two sisters, or Louise and James Windsor. I didn’t find out my granny had died until the morning after. The press really are scum. Leave these poor fuckers alone to get on with it.

The mental illness continues.

R40. Where can I find such a not nice father who gives me millions and gives me a big role in his mother’s memorial ceremonies after after I’ve been a nasty prick to him for three years.?

Harry quits army= I want to wear my uniform!!

Harry quits royal life= I want my titles!!

Harry quits Britain= I want security in the UK!!

Harry is EXHAUSTING. One forgets he's approaching 40. He whines like a child constantly.

Karma.

The prime minister is the head of government r3, she absolutely has to know about the death of the head of state before almost every one else. When were all the Queen's other grandchildren notified?

No, these stories don't make "Charles and Buckingham Palace staff look fucking awful". They make whoever's spinning them look fucking awful.

[quote]The transparent leaks aren't going to help Harry win over the public.

Agreed; can't they at least wait until the old girl is in the ground before they start dishing about how badly they were treated? Not to say that he doesn't have any legitimate complaints, but all of this stuff sounds as if he's making it all about *him* rather than focusing on sending off his gran in style

[quote] Nobody thought she was going to die, you asshole.

You are the moron, R96.

1. You don't turn down an invitation by the Queen of England for whichever reason.

2. Everyone knew she didn't have long. Charles was visiting her daily and she was 96. She had lost a lot of weight and the papers were full of health concerns.

Was there any statement to why they turned down the invitation? Probably because they were pissed they wouldn't be able to take their own pictures.

Just because Charles may have only contacted Harry moments before the OFFICIAL announcement, there is no way Harry wouldn't have known she had died, or been told about it by someone else close to the family.

The PM and LOTO were informed during the budget debate in the House of Commons. The Speaker made a statement.

The BBC interrupted its broadcasts to broadcast live that the Queen was unwell - it was clear she had died and the official announcement was imminent.

I feel sorry for all of the family members. Harry has clearly been traumatised by his experiences with the media and what they did to his mother, to him as a young man and as a father and husband, and wants some liberty, but that's not compatible with his role as a working royal. It's very sad.

"Harry has clearly been traumatised by his experiences with the media"

Then why is he giving interviews to Oprah or any other media outlet that will PAY him?

I have read this thread in utter disbelief. Good God, a number of you are just plain insane.

Actions speak louder than words.

Harry’s actions regarding his grandparents tell the entire story.

R18 Exactly. The LSA crowd likes to think that Harry is always mistreated, but in fact, he is treated like all the other grandchildren. He is not the heir, he is now in fact 5th in line. He is not any more special than any of the other royal grandchildren.

[quote][R18] Exactly. The LSA crowd likes to think that Harry is always mistreated, but in fact, he is treated like all the other grandchildren. He is not the heir, he is now in fact 5th in line. He is not any more special than any of the other royal grandchildren.

???!?!??!!!

He is the King's son. He is the brother to the future King.

The other royal grandchildren are the King's nephews and nieces and cousins to the future king.

Harry is, as the son of the king, more special than his cousins. That's the point of a hereditary monarchy.

He's more special than his cousins in relation to the father whom he hates, but he is not more special than his cousins in relation to their grandmother, r66. This is their grandmother's funeral.

Why should Charles be compassionate to another man’s son, especially after that bastard has proven himself untrustworthy if not downright traitorous?

[quote]The PM and LOTO were informed during the budget debate in the House of Commons.

Untrue. The Queen didn't die until 4:30 in the afternoon, and the PM was notified by note a few hours earlier, about the time the statement about doctors being concerned about the Queen's health was released. That was about 1:15pm, if I recall.

We later learned that she was told the Queen's death was imminent before she even went into Parliament that day. A practice run for Operation London Bridge was cancelled the night before (Wednesday night) and the PM et al. thought it was because of the statement and other business happening on Thursday morning, but it appears people already knew the Queen was gravely ill by then.

It makes the lack of notification of a lot of people (not just Harry) a little odd.

[quote]Untrue. The Queen didn't die until 4:30 in the afternoon, and the PM was notified by note a few hours earlier, about the time the statement about doctors being concerned about the Queen's health was released. That was about 1:15pm, if I recall.

Do you honestly believe the Queen was still alive when the PM and LOTO were given the notices during their budget debate and the BBC went into live broadcast mode?

They waited for the family to arrive in Balmoral and the official announcement was then made.

If you think they lied about the Queen's time of death and that she didn't die at around 4:30pm as was announced, that's your prerogative.

Whatever the time, it appears that Harry & Megs will leave the UK with fresh grievances, possibly over the timing and likely many more other things we don't know now, but they're likely saving up for THE BOOK. But considering the wall to wall coverage, the public may be tired of these stories & don't really want to hear a bunch of whining about "they didn't make room for me on the private jet so I had to get my OWN private jet (says the guy who lectures everyone about their global footprint)"

I read a Mail article where one of her Bowes-Lyon cousins was interviewed and he said that they heard at about 3 p.m. "on the grapevine" (presumably the family grapevine, i.e. whichever Bowes-Lyon cousin is closest to whichever Windsor) that the Queen was dead. I'm not buying this story from Harry's people.

I know the PM has to be told quickly as the Queen was Head of State but her role was largely ceremonial. What would happen if they waited an hour?

They knew Harry would have taken selfie's as she lay dying.

[quote]It makes the lack of notification of a lot of people (not just Harry) a little odd.

But he was notified…why do you think he did the mad dash up there? A free lunch? She died while he was in the air and was notified when he landed.

[quote]I know the PM has to be told quickly as the Queen was Head of State but her role was largely ceremonial. What would happen if they waited an hour?

Because Charles would immediately become king and the handover process would kick in.

I don't think there's a huge conspiracy to cover up the Queen's death, it's just clear that she had died several hours before the official announcement and that the family knew and flew to Scotland for that reason.

So while I think it's likely and probable that Harry was only told by *Charles* just before "Harry, I'm so sorry, the official announcement is imminent", there is no way Harry wouldn't have known from another source that the Queen had died.

So the headline is true but the spirit of the story is not.

The only person Harry should be mad at in all of this is his wretched wife.

[quote]I don’t know how much of this is true

You don’t say, r34.

If Harry had been told before all the heads of government of the Commonwealth countries were told, Meghan would have been on the phone to Gayle King to give her a scoop. When you've shown you can't be trusted, you won't be trusted. Harry has nobody to blame but his wife.

It’s obvious to anyone with eyes and ears that Charles doesn’t WANT Harry there, and needling Harry into leaving the country was the best thing for his “modern, slimmed down monarchy”. But he needs Harry there for the funeral, and for his coronation, to look like a halfway decent father and keep the dusky-hued ex-colonialists onside. Hence all this nonsense about flights and uniforms and vigils and accidental invitations. He’s responding entirely to public reaction.

I wouldn’t trust the Royal Family to do anything. They’re beyond petty and useless and it’s unstatesmanlike. Not to mention the courtiers and advisors seem to consist of ex-Deloittes MBAs.

Leave it to the military to organise everything, they’ve all been fab this past week.

[quote]It’s obvious to anyone with eyes and ears that Charles doesn’t WANT Harry there, and needling Harry into leaving the country was the best thing for his “modern, slimmed down monarchy”. But he needs Harry there for the funeral, and for his coronation, to look like a halfway decent father and keep the dusky-hued ex-colonialists onside. Hence all this nonsense about flights and uniforms and vigils and accidental invitations. He’s responding entirely to public reaction.

Charles and William are frustrated at Harry and his desire for a one foot in one foot out role - he can't be a celebrity dishing the dirty and expect to be a "full" royal.

Harry not being allowed to wear his uniform and not allowed to salute is bullshit and seems like a punishment.

Either way this family sounds horrible all around. Just cold people. The royals in other houses don’t have half the drama because they actually love each other and don’t use the press against each other.

I mean damn, the Queen had to step in at one point to stop William and Harry’s Pr trolls from throwing stones at each other, meanwhile Charles has always been willing to use his sons or throw them under the bus for his own gain.

The Queen is the worst type of boss. Unless a situation involves her son being questing for fucking a sex trafficked woman, the Queen wouldn’t get involved. Her fear of conflict causes a power vaccine where it counts which creates openings for all this drama.

Charles line of the family is the worst. All three men are cunts. All their wives are versions of Regina George. Camilla bullying Diana. Kate letting that stupid story of Meghan bullying Charlotte (come on now). Meghan always playing innocent to everything.

All of these people are horrible sounding humans.

[quote] and keep the dusky-hued ex-colonialists onside.

Give me a fucking break.

Maybe they wanted to avoid "mysterious" leaks... like ..... this one? Who knows exactly when Charles called him outside themselves? Palace sources my ass..

Harry is so entitled he still want to be treated the 3rd on the line after spilling the beans trying to look like a victim. I think they thought they would be treated better becouse, if not, they would be "forced" to tell the world about it.

How exactly have Meghan and Harry shown love to his family? At least William invited him on the WA. Not a peep about Harry going out of his way to show a kindness to William.

Meghan's been leaking like a sieve: they were invited then uninvited, Harry's furious about this, that and the other, Meghan wrote Charles a letter and demanded he meet with her instead of meeting with the Crowned Heads of Europe, the Middle East and Japan. The woman cannot shut the fuck up.

I love how all week we’ve heard every negative leak imaginable about Harry and Meghan and not one of you Cambridge fans accuse William or Kate of leaking. But a story like this comes out and you assume it’s Harry and Meghan.

It sounds like the RF’s staff leak more than anyone else. So many negative “leaks” against Harry and Meghan have been pushed this week. Not a peep about anyone else in an intimate setting. It reeks of a hot job or just fantasy.

Think about it. Why haven’t these sources that know ever action or outburst from H&M ever tell us how anyone else in the family is thinking or feeling these past 10 days? It’s because they are making up most of these stories. Take an outcome, insert a negative narrative, then pretend to be a secrete insider.

R88 all the leaks and trash are coming from La Markle - and what was that weird square shape showing through her dress at Windsor?

Just more ammo for Harry & Megan to play their victim cards. I'm sure this is what these two refer to behind closed doors as "JACKPOT!" I'm sure something very big will be made of something that is very nothing.

I'd just like to know one nice thing Meghan has done for the BRF. Just one time she went out of her way and did something kind for them.

And just what are those lovey-dovey Royal houses, R83? Is it the Swedish king with his penchant for sex parties with strippers? Is it Danish royals with Marie and Joachim saying they have been exiled to France? Or is it Mette-Marit who used to be a big friend of Jeffrey Epstein? Is it Spanish former king who had to abdicate and fled the country after a series of financial scandals and who actually had been asked to stay away from the ERII funeral because of all this unpleasantness? Or the current Spanish queen who fights with her mother in law in public, is reviled by her people and uses plastic surgery to erase her natural facial features and model herself on Queen Rania? Or is it Saudi Royal family with Mohammed bin Salman having half his family arrested, including his own mother?

I think this a courtier leak. It doesn’t paint Harry in a good light: fussing over his ghastly wife, holding up the plane; and lays out why Charles couldn’t let Harry know in advance.

I didn't say he wasn't notified, r76.

[quote] I'd just like to know one nice thing Meghan has done for the BRF. Just one time she went out of her way and did something kind for them.

I told little Charlotte how inappropriate her stockings were for my wedding and that she had to change them.

So THERE, smartypants!

Charlotte cries whenever she sees a picture of Meghan. She has a fit when she sees her in person.

I think it was possible Harry was not told by another member of the family that the Queen had died until he spoke with his father. Even Eugenie and Jack blanked him at the Committal Service today when he tried to speak to them. AFAIK, they were the last in the family who spoke with him with any frequency.

HIs grandma was 96 and lost her husband of 70+ years not too long ago. She was always dying. Just a matter of time and was going to be sooner rather than later. And how did DLers know The Queen was in really poor health for awhile but Harry didn't? There's been threads forever about it.

He's a complete awful person for not going to see her when invited. He can't whine now. He's also nobody special anymore but just one of the many grandkids.

For many years after William and Harry were born, the idea of "an heir and a spare" was mentioned constantly in the press. Perhaps this lead Harry to believe he and William were equals. Certainly they were closer to being equals until William had children, after which Harry moved down the pecking order.

You can't help but see the parallels between Harry and Princess Margaret and the course their lives took when they came to accept their diminished relevance.

Who knows what to believe with these news stories?

1. The Queen was 96 and frail. That was obvious in June at the Jubilee.

2. Her children needed to be informed first.

3. Stories of a family rift -- especially after all that has gone on with Harry and Meghan -- sell newspapers and increase hits to a website.

4. Harry and Meghan are grandstanding narcissists and whiners, but cut her some slack. She's an American, who was brought up differently from her husband, his family, and even Kate Middleton. I saw her smile at little Charlotte today. She looked lovely at every event. And she appeared very sweet with the crowds of well-wishers at Windsor last Saturday.

5. The family too, understandably, may be wary around them and they around the family. H?M didn't pull punches. And it's the first time a member of that family (since his mother's infamous talk) has talked about the private side of their lives. In some ways he's betrayed them.

6. Some of Meghan's criticisms of royal life may have been on the mark. She was never going to fit in the role of dutiful royal wife who unveils plaques. They could have guided her in some of the roles. She's American and had no connections there apart from her husband.

[quote] 2. Her children needed to be informed first.

The new monarch needs to be informed first, but he was there.

Then the PM needs to be informed given the monarch's unique constitutional position.

Then the other children.

King Charles Told Prince Harry of Queen Elizabeth’s Death Five Minutes Before It Happened.

This article sums up the Harry dilemma

Surely Harry is not so dumb that he cannot understand why? Besides what exactly is the problem? Other relatives may have only been told ten minutes before or three minutes before. What is the issue? He is marinading in self pity and victimhood.

I think you are confused about the invitation to visit r17 It came earlier in the summer not just a few days before she died.

r22 So much heat but no light from you. Moat people are intelligent enough to figure out Harry can't be trusted with delicate information. You are very aggressive calling everyone an asshole. You definitely have an agenda.

r55 Harry reeks of entitlement. A total brat and manchild.

🐔 Keep fucking that chicken .....

r94…I quoted you where you, quite literally, said he wasn’t notified…

This is you ⬇️

[quote] It makes the lack of notification of a lot of people (not just Harry) a little odd.

R103, thank goodness Freeman is starting to realize Meghan is "a bit of a numpty."

Well, duh… did Harry think Charles will send out a group text on whatsapp?

R110. But she still found the service underwhelming and similar to those of her relatives. You can always rely on the Guardian.

Charles and William are MONSTERS.

They will bring about the end of the monarchy.

The Guardian's an extreme lefty publication and anti-royalist. Always has been.

Thanks for chiming in, Meghan at R113.

Meghan and Harry leaked to their mouthpieces that Charles had invited them to come to Balmoral to stay with the Queen prior to their foray playing ersatz Royals. They refused and were proud to do so because the Foreign Office won't pay their security. Now, of course, it looks like Bitch and Bitchette just couldn't be bothered to visit Granny. Assholes.

Harry and Meghan are winning this P.R. war.

[quote] King Charles’ Rep Just Responded to Rumors Harry Was ‘The Last to Know’ About the Queen’s Death

Finding out together. Prince Harry and Queen Elizabeth’s death is a hot topic after it was revealed when he learned about his grandmother’s passing. A rep for King Charles III revealed when Harry found out after reports came out that he found out about Her Majesty’s death five minutes before the public.

According to the Telegraph, Prince Harry was en route to see his grandmother when King Charles called him on the plane to inform him about her death on September 8, 2022. The news outlet also reported that the Duke of Sussex only found out about her death five minutes before the public and was “the last to know” of her death before the information was released to everyone else. The Palace doesn’t usually comment on speculation like this, but in a rare move, King Charles III’s spokesperson responded to the rumors. They told the Daily Mail on September 18, 2022, that “the public was only informed after every family member had been informed.”

The whole world outside of a few DL posters is on Meghan’s side. She’s the Princess of Hearts.

Nobody fucking cares about Harry and his golddigger. Stick with Real Housewives, Megaloon.

To first call the RF racist and then use one of the racists' intimate family nicknames for their child's name shows the astonishing lack of game these two have. I wonder if it was Meghan's idea. It seems like the sort of skinwalker stunt she'd pull.

Then they couldn't be bothered to visit the holder of this nickname after she'd missed half of her own Jubilee. Using the name was just branding.

[quote]Is there anyway we can make them stay in England? Don’t we have enough spoiled ass rich kids already? Does Canada want them back? Everybody seems to like Italy right now.

Seconded. I love the UK but we need a FILTH-esque acronym for their trash who keep washing up here.

R100. Nobody likes Markle because she's a whiney, ungrateful liar. Has nothing to do with race or anything else. She is a trouble-making liar who set out to aggrandize herself at everyone else's expense.

Markle is just plain unlikeable. Even if she laid low this week or smiled at Charlotte. BFD. Markle is poison. Charles and company should have nothing to do with her. It's useless to try and get along with her. When Harry's book come out, the two of them with be bomb-throwing liars for all the world to see. Why bother with them? H&M are bottomless pits who will never be happy.

[quote] Prince Harry appeared 'traumatized' at Queen Elizabeth II's funeral while seated behind King Charles III

At the late Queen Elizabeth II's funeral on Monday, one member of the royal family in particular seemed to be overcome with emotion: Prince Harry.

"Harry just looked traumatized," Shannon Felton Spence, a royal expert, told Fox News Digital.

The late monarch's grandson sat next to wife Meghan Markle at the funeral. The couple was seated in the second row directly behind King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla.

According to Spence, the seating arrangement at the funeral was also very telling regarding the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.

"Harry and Meghan really surprised me because it means they’ll be in every photo," Spence continued, noting their placement directly behind the new king. "But I guess it makes sense since they clearly did the arrangement by succession."

The new king led the procession into Westminster Abbey, followed by the rest of the royal family.

He walked with other members of the royal family, including his sister Anne, Princess Royal, and his brothers Prince Andrew, Duke of York and Prince Edward, Earl of Wessex.

His children William, Prince of Wales, and Prince Harry, who walked close together, also followed their grandmother's coffin along with their cousin Peter Phillips, Anne's son.

After conflicting reports on whether they would be in attendance, Harry and Meghan ultimately did not attend Sunday evening's Buckingham Palace reception.

"They wanted to be there," Spence said. "I imagine the weight of what they gave up when they resigned from their jobs as working royals is very heavy this weekend. Remember, they wanted to have both. They wanted to be able to capitalize on a celebrity brand and be ‘financially independent’ while also still serving The Crown. And the queen said no. That’s not how it works. You are in or you are out. And this is pretty indicative of their strategy over the last two years. They leak to the press to try and force the issue. And the only time I recall it working was with the question of Prince Harry’s ability to wear uniform to the vigil on Saturday night."

I don't think the Sussexes were treated poorly at all. They may have a strained relationship, but the BRF still included them. Which is more than you can say for how Meghan treated her own family. Even though her father did exactly what she's done--get herself papped and air dirty laundry to the press.

R100 “She was never going to fit in the role of dutiful royal wife who unveils plaques.”

Then she shouldn’t have applied for the job. She has an overinflated sense of her capacities and thought she could change an institution that is thousands of years old.

“They could have guided her in some of the roles.”

THEY TRIED. She refused all help.

^^and tried to make changes about two months before getting mad and flouncing out. Yeah, that’s some committed activism there. She’s a real Angela Davis, that Markle.

[quote][R110]. But she still found the service underwhelming and similar to those of her relatives. You can always rely on the Guardian.

For all the pomp and grandeur, the service was underwhelming.

It was a funeral for The Person Who Was Head Of The Church Of England and not an actual person. Where Diana's funeral had the famous eulogy from her brother, there was nothing about Elizabeth, the wife, mother, grandmother, stateswoman, ambassador, diplomat, corgi lover.

Thank god it wasn’t like Diana’s. That one was embarrassing, especially the dishonest and hypocritical eulogy.

When Diana was in depth of her troubles and needed a bolt hole, her brother now Earl Spencer denied request to return to childhood home, the Spencer estate.

Once Diana was dead however we heard a totally different story. As if butter wouldn't melt in his mouth Earl Spencer was the caring, loving and protective brother.

Windsor-Mountbatten family may not win any prizes, but the Spencer clan wasn't (or isn't) that far behind. Like his father Earl Spencer has gone through a few wives for a start.

And he also claimed that the Spencer family would be involved in Harry’s and William’s upbringing in order to carry on the brilliant parenting Diana provided (right!). I think the Spencers hardly saw then.

I'm going to paste my post in another royal vs Markle thread, because it belongs here as well:

The British Royal Family is dull and not a single member radiates even the tiniest modicum of intelligence or wit. Imagine a nation with a proud history of literary and scientific achievements being mesmerized by the doings of a family all of whose members would be hard put to pass a high school equivalency exam without special tutors. The sad history of nations with a monarchy is that at some time in their past, they bought into the mythology that GOD had deigned that members of a special family would be given unique powers of diplomacy, military skill, outstanding religious piety, and superior leadership qualities and that those powers would be passed along to future generations in their BLOOD. (I'm guessing they thing this will happen genetically, although this designation preceded our modern understanding of genetics). Look up the concept of the "Divine Right of Kings" if you think I'm joking. I think Meghan Markle is a breath of fresh air in this doltish family which revels in its notion of its own supremacy. She's more honest about what motivates her (fame and publicity) than they are, but the entire monarchical publicity machine is in fact designed to do exactly the same thing for members of the royal family - planting stories in magazines and newspapers, granting carefully scripted interviews showing the royal palaces and gardens at their finest, etc, so I find their disdain for her particularly hypocritical, and the British people, if they buy into this anti-Markle bullshit, to be incapable of objective analysis of the situation.

Meghan Markle does not say that she's in it for fame and publicity, she says she's in it to change the world and make a difference, etc.

Also, learn the difference between "deign" and "ordain".

R131, a constitutional monarchy is the exact opposite of the Divine Right of Kings, which you most certainly haven't looked up and have no clue what it means.

The biggest irony of the many in your ridiculous post is that it is Markle who thinks that just because she - through marriage into this family - has the title of Duchess that we should be listening to her and according her status. She's the one who seems to think that her American children should be known as prince and princess as a birthright. In contrast, the ones you dismiss as dolts understand that they have an important constitutional role and they have to work hard and do their duty to gain in order to gain and maintain the respect of the people so they can represent us as a nation.

R127, it was a funeral service for the head of state and head of the Church of England. The private family internment would have had the eulogies and speeches about Elizabeth, the wife, mother, grandmother, corgi lover.

R131. Are you posting from the 16th century? Are these insights you’ve just come to? I think you will find most of the world came to these conclusions centuries ago, including the British Parliament, which disavowed divine right monarchy centuries ago.

Monarchy survives because it provides a link with tradition and a nonpartisan way of choosing a head of state. Being monarch does not require or imply exceptional intelligence and, although you may have just discovered that fact, British people have mocked the intelligence of their monarchs for centuries. And being exciting is the last thing you want in a monarch. The last thing the monarchy needs is someone who draws attention to herself, as Diana or Meghan have done. The monarch simply needs to show up to represent the country in a dignified and respectable way, not dazzle us with her juggling or her squatting ability. That’s why the Queen, despite having a drab public personality was so beloved and respected.

The respect and enthusiasm shown for the Queen had nothing to do with what people thought of her star quality or her intelligence, which were irrelevant to her job, and everything to do with how she did her job and to the fact that she had been part of public life for almost a century. That kind of continuity is something a republic can’t offer. Everyone knows the Queen was just an ordinary human belong, but fate had made her part of people’s lives for decades and she had earned their respect.

Does it make any sense that an occasion seems more special because it is attended by a First Lady? No. She’s not necessarily a star or particularly intelligent nor did anyone choose her in her own right. The way British people feel about monarchs is not some bizarre aberration.

Whatever you think of the system you can’t argue with its success to date. Can you imagine the death of the German or Italian president, or even a US president evoking this kind of response?

William doesn't resemble him r40 but Harry absolutely does. Charles and Harry are two spoilt selfish peas in a pod.

Caption this.

Anyone dumb enough to think Markle is honest has several screws loose. She's so obviously personality disordered you can see it from space.

From Guardian opinion piece linked in R103:

"Harry has looked like the human embodiment of Britain mid-Brexit, leaving the organisation and then expressing outrage that he can’t enjoy the privileges of belonging to it."

"Does Harry ever wonder if he successfully made the point he was trying to make to his family? Towards the end of the Queen’s funeral, it looked as if he might.

As he got up from his seat and moved to the aisle, he looked towards his brother and seemed to be seeking eye contact. He didn’t get it. A stern-faced William walked right in front of him, and Harry took a further step back to make room for William’s children.

Because that’s what he was born to do, and he can never escape it, even if he moves halfway across the world.

And then the brothers marched forth, behind another dead woman they loved, next to one another, and ignoring each other."

Spot on!

R138, her supporters claim she’s the “only royal” who cried at the funeral. They’re not too sharp.

Smart King.

I wish Harry would realise it's over. Charles and his brother seem done with him. Let him disappear so we don't have to hear about him anymore.

He can be a pseudo-celebrity like Edward VIII but he'll never be anything more than that.

[quote]Monarchy survives because it provides a...nonpartisan way of choosing a head of state.

I can't believe you wrote that, and I can't believe it got 5 upvotes.

Why can't you believe that, r143? It's true.

[quote]I can't believe you wrote that, and I can't believe it got 5 upvotes.

But it's true.

At the last general election the UK had an abysmal choice between Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn to be Prime Minister.

No one, other than a small group of race obsessed cranks, wants a choice between Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn to be President.

R143. You can’t believe it because you know nothing?

[quote] The sad history of nations with a monarchy is that at some time in their past, they bought into the mythology that GOD had deigned that members of a special family would be given unique powers of diplomacy, military skill, outstanding religious piety, and superior leadership qualities and that those powers would be passed along to future generations in their BLOOD. (I'm guessing they thing this will happen genetically, although this designation preceded our modern understanding of genetics).

[quote] Look up the concept of the "Divine Right of Kings" if you think I'm joking.

The real brains behind all British Royals, were their handlers.

From Walsingham and Sir William who advised Queen Elizabeth I, to The Men in Grey Suits who advised (and managed) Queen Elizabeth II.

The people behind the scenes have always called the shots.

The monarchs were only ever figureheads.

I like him, I do not get the hate. He didn’t want to be a royal, so where’s a guy like him supposed to go? Of course he’ll pal around with celebrities, he’s a celebrity.

Charles will RUE the day!!!

FUCK OFF YOU WHITE TRASH OP.

YOU LOVE THE ROYALS BECAUSE THEY ARE WHITE TRASH LIKE YOU.

F&F EVERY THREAD ABOUT THIS DEAD CUNT

Watching the Brits' universal mourning for the Queen, I wondered what American could die and everybody in the country would be terribly sad. Nobody. Which is the point of having a monarch: a non-partisan figure who represents the country, a focal point for patriotism. Here in the US what passes for patriotism is jingoistic flag-waving. Brits don't do that except at soccer matches against foreign countries.

Michael Beschloss the historian was pointing out that when the United States was created, we didn't want a King or Queen, just an elected government. Which is great on paper but a monarch in a constitutional monarchy can be a strong unifying force in a country which is as divided as ours is now. The disadvantages of being a republic.

[quote] Watching the Brits' universal mourning for the Queen, I wondered what American could die and everybody in the country would be terribly sad.

No one.

No former President, no famous celebrity, no Hollywood actor/actress, no musician.

We have no one to look up to in this country.

That’s modern day^, kween. Not from the past. Not even remotely true.

People were pretty upset when FDR died.

FDR died in 1945. Whose death in 2022 could unite the whole country in grief? Can't think of a single person.

[quote]It was a funeral for The Person Who Was Head Of The Church Of England and not an actual person. Where Diana's funeral had the famous eulogy from her brother, there was nothing about Elizabeth, the wife, mother, grandmother, stateswoman, ambassador, diplomat, corgi lover.

It was exactly the way she would have wanted it. She oversaw the funerals of her father and mother and knew what was appropriate for a monarch.

If she had wanted her dressers to tell cute anecdotes about her love of corgis, or Sir Elton John to once again perform one of rewritten pop hits in the Abbey ("I'm the Queen, / I'm the Queen, / And I'm better than you..." ), she would have made sure that happened. But she wanted a traditional funeral befitting her position as monarch.

I could see Michele Obama, if she maintains essentially what she does - duty, dignity, somewhat of a cipher (in a social media age where everyone shares every little opinion about everything) - being our QEII Queen we would all mourn (hopefully) later on.

She has those qualities.

Gross!!^^^

R257 You think the entire USA would mourn Michelle Obama? What are you on, and can I have some?

Many Americans hate both Obamas and will celebrate when they die. We are an intensely divided country.

A lot of deluded royalists on this thread. To r132 : Deign is frequently used in reference to God's dealings with mankind. Why? Because deign is a verb which has the connotation of a superior being doing something, perhaps reluctantly, for lesser beings. Sorry to burst your pseudointellectual bubble, sweetie.

From religious literature: "God has deigned to call you to perfection, not to mediocrity, by that grace in which you stand, that God who is our good and holy Savior, Jesus Christ, the Son of God, to whom be honor and dominion, now and forever. Amen. --Bl. Jordan of Saxony"

" Only in faith can they discover and admire with joyful gratitude the dignity to which God has deigned to raise marriage and the family, making them a sign and meeting place of the loving covenant between God and man, between Jesus Christ and His bride, the Church"

"God has deigned to put his image and likeness into the clay and spirit of an earth creature. By God’s design and craft, human beings have the capacity to behold and imagine the world, and to give voice to every creature under heaven in praise and wonder."

(And ONE MILLION more examples.)

R160, one deigns TO do something (as illustrated in all of your examples) whereas one ordains THAT something should be so. Here's an example from Cambridge:

[quote] I don't know who came up with the idea, but the city council has ordained that all the local libraries will close on Mondays.

And here's what you said in your first post:

[quote]the mythology that GOD had deigned that members of a special family would be given unique powers

You clearly meant 'ordain'. Your unjustified pride in your truly meagre intelligence is on display yet again. You are one of the most odious posters here.

While the CURRENT excuse for the monarchy is that it provides a non-political head of state, that was not its origin under any objective survey of history. Sure it's very nice to have a representative that can show up for ribbon cuttings and to greet foreign visiting dignitaries, etc, and a person who doesn't need to put aside the needs of the country to do such things, but such a person could be designated by a legislative body, or even a neutral committee, at a much lower cost than several hundreds of millions of pounds a year, maintenance, as well as not needing a country to supply that person with a yacht, dozens of residences, hundreds of paid guards, servants, groundskeepers, and on and on and on. What I saw when I watched the funeral, as dignified as it was, was the cost. That entire event, from the parade of the body around the country on a private train, to the flying in and housing of the entire extended family, the visiting dignitaries, their travel within the country, the hiring of musicians and choirs, the thousands of police and armed forces needed everywhere, the clergymen, the bagpiper surely was in excess of $10,000,000, or perhaps even double That's a lot to spend on a dead person.

Why does it bother you what other countries choose to do, r162?

r161 To make you happy , I will rephrase my original sentence. ".....God had deigned to endow members of a special family with unique powers" Your objection, I feel certain, was not originally about whether "deign" needs to be followed by "to", but I'm happy to pretend that it was

It bothers me because a nation which is dealing with an energy crisis in which half of its citizenry will be unable to afford heating in the upcoming winter is wasting precious resources that could be distributed more fairly on what is essentially a medieval institution.

R164, that was the reason for my objection because every schoolboy knows that, in contemporary English, 'deign' is only ever followed by 'to', whereas 'ordain' can be followed by 'that'. God only knows what you think the reason for my objection was. Silly cunt.

Your poor grasp of punctuation shows us all that you are clearly in need of being corrected by your betters.

Menluvinguy was watching a different funeral because I never saw the Queen's coffin being paraded around the country on a train. It was driven from Balmoral to Edinburgh and flown from Edinburgh to London.

Imagine the arrogance of pontificating on a subject to which you clearly haven't been paying attention!

R162. Everybody knows that the royal family was not apolitical centuries ago. Once again, whom do you think you are educating? We don’t need you to teach us the alphabet. And what is the relevance of this fact to the discussion? How does the fact that Henry VIiI had political views affect what Elizabeth II did? Should the US presidency be abolished because presudehts used to govern as the oppressors of black people? No, it’s totally irrelevant.

We also know that many countries elect a head of state. You do realise that elections are expensive to hold don’t you? In addition, 1) the royal family owns some of its residences in their own right 2) If the royal family were evicted from the palaces, the costs of maintaining them won’t disappear. An elected president would likely occupy some of them and some would need to be maintained as museums. They won’t be demolished or converted to office buildings.

Your objection to the cost of the funeral might make sense if it were held solely for the benefit of the royal family. In fact, it is done almost entirely for the benefit of the people, and, based on the public response, huge sections of the public appreciated it a great deal. I. doubt Charles would have objected to not having to travel around the nation and participate in innumerable ceremonies Most of what we do in countries that are above the subsistence level is strictly speaking unnecessary. A lot of public money is “wasted” on presidential funerals, sporting events, artistic events, celebrations of national holidays, etc. Does your country not spend any money on any of these types of events? I assume you post here about the enormous waste of funds on US presidential funerals?

You're correct that I tuned out of the arrangements at a certain point. Up until 8 days ago, the intent was a train journey on the royal train, as the link below clearly shows.

To all of you saying Charles / the Palace is being petty: As R1 rightly said, you can’t take chances with Harry and Meghan. Knowing a couple of minutes wouldn’t be enough for H&M to put a sappy post on their social medias, Charles waited until the very last moment to give them the heads up.

What else should he have done? Tell them 2h ahead of official communiqué, risking the very real danger of Dimwit and MeAgain to be the first to break the news? Can you really put it past them to break with centuries of tradition, just to get some likes?

r166 Your use of the phrase "corrected by his betters" betrays your notion of your own superiority in all matters. That sort of thinking is a relic of a country which has always rigidly organized people by class, speech and other superficialities and it is abhorrent. I'm on this website at 3 in the morning my time, and if I don't bother to proofread too carefully at that hour, minor mistakes in my posts might be worthy of a DL "oh dear", but nothing more.

I have deliberately been poking the bear here and in similar threads, because I think far too much DL bandwidth has already been devoted to this family. I think I have been clear that I don't believe that they are worth it. I'd like to say that I'm sorry for having offended the worshipers at the throne of the WIndsors - but I'd be lying if I did.

Oh, look, the thread where the nutjobs claim that the monarchy is totally nonpartisan is still going. I guess if you don't read the news stories about Charles trying to influence Parliament and the PM, then it's just like those incidents never happened.

Totally unrelated but let me give you guys another friendly reminder that the MM hater loon trolls are almost all rightwing trolls, just couching their political trolling in culture wars bullshit.

In what way has Charles tried to influence parliament or the PM in a partisan manner as King, r172?

[quote]Even the Prime Minister knew about the Queen's death, before her own grandson.

Because Charles knew that the PM's spouse wouldn't get someone to tweet about it before the official announcement.

The monarchy has evolved. I thought that was a good thing.

Menluvinguy, it’s fine that you have that opinion - that DL is using up too much bandwidth - but “poking the bear” doesn’t solve that perceived problem. There’s plenty of bandwidth. You can block threads you don’t want to see. It’s also fine that you argue your case (and I think you’ve been pretty civil and logical, so good on you), but you’re not going to change my mind. Those two are silly malcontents and shit-stirrers and I’ll never believe otherwise.

I feel so sorry for Harry.

He has really been treated terribly by his father and his brother.

r178 Harry abused his elderly grandparents and has a book coming out threatening so called truth bombs but cant figure out why the family are frosty or stand offish with him?? Surely he cant be that dense?

My hunch is another chapter is being added to his book.

Those Windsors are cuntski.

Watch r173

R179 He is clearly that dense and there are many just like him here on DL.

Look at R182 posting a link dated 2018. Clue: Charles wasn’t King in 2018. R182 missed Charles speech regarding his change of status and how he would conduct himself in the future.

We have others that refuse to see facts concerning Harry and Meghan. It’s never their fault.

Menluvinguy, why do you deign to post on the DL, you pedantic pretentious prick?

R183 you at that dense aren't you? Lol. This video is actually from 2012 and it was BECAUSE Charles wasn't monarch yet (obviously) that it was controversial, as he basically had no right to be writing to politicians to do his bidding. Don't you "get" it?

Charles will balls it up. He wants to be loved like Diana and his Mum and he never will be. He's a cranky old git who will be compelled to meddle in politics which will be the end of him and the Windsors. Best he turn over the car keys to William and Kate. The sooner the better.

His own dad couldn't stand Charles. Thought he was fussy peevish "old git" even when he was young. If Philip had his way Anne would have been the heir not Eeyor.

R185. You’re saying that it is okay to meddle in politics once you become monarch but not before? I think you’re confused.

R188 I think English is your second language.

R188 I'm saying his mother the Queen was the one the PM had to meet regularly to speak about the goings on of the government and not even she got publicly get involved with politics, but the spoiled brat wasn't even king yet and was writing all these ministers to do his bidding

R185 “you at that dense aren't you?”

Oh dear.

The Montecito Sheriff had to drive up to the Olive Garden Mansion to tell Harry to answer his phone when Prince Philip died. The embassy had been trying to reach Harry to notify him.

Her really loves his family, though.

What Yanks think UK is..

What UK is...

What the Royals are to 2022 UK

R196 has been asleep for the past two weeks.

I love the story about Harry wanting Charles and William to meet with him and a mediator. No doubt his chosen mediator would be Gayle King's inamorata Oprah. lol

[quote] The Montecito Sheriff had to drive up to the Olive Garden Mansion to tell Harry to answer his phone when Prince Philip died. The embassy had been trying to reach Harry to notify him.

Wow. Is that true? When my parents were still alive and not even that old, I always kept my phone on in case of emergency for them. Damn. He is all about himself.

^ Did your parents live in a palace surrounded by hundreds of flunkies and dozens of doctors whose only job was to wipe their arse 24/7? Thought not.

R189. I think you’re illiterate in any language.

Oh Harry.

Harry, Harry, Harry.

Cry me a river, Crybaby Clown.

Some rich folks collect cars and art and lovers, but millionaire Harry collect grudges. ROFL I wonder if he sheds crocodile tears during his tantrums over his clothing. Hmm I can easily picture him hurling his body to the ground and pounding his feet and fists, yelling "It's not FAIR! It's not FAIR! It's not FAIR!"

IDEA: Megain can sell videos of her fat crybaby hubby throwing fits! Imagine the money she could rake in for that footage! LOL

Is anyone else counting the hours since the Harkles left Britain to see how long it will take for the burnt orange schemer to announce she's pregnant? Any second now. Or what she calls a pregnancy. Many will doubt her bullshit after last time. LMAO

I don't know if this was posted.

God Save the King! He is doing a damn good job for a man in his seventies who just got saddled with so much grief and responsibility and all while suffering the pain of a selfish, spoiled stupid ass of a son too. What a monarch he'll be! I really like how the Palace has been defending the family again and again since Charles took over. I can't say since H & M started new complaints/criticisms since they really never stop, do they?

R200 Philip went home from the hospital at almost the age of 100. You would think that his grandson would want to be informed of his death. Apparently, Harry didn’t care. Harry also turned down an invitation to visit his frail 96 year old grandmother but his nose is out of joint that he wasn’t given sufficient notice of her death. Hypocrisy, anyone?

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Pungey what is wrong with you? You're so demented that it's sad

1) Who cares

2) All these articles have dubious time frames. We now know that around 10 am Charles and the PM were informed that the Queen's health was rapidly deteriorating. Just before Liz Truss went into the commons, she was told the Queen might not survive the day. At the same time royals were being informed. While Truss was addressing the Commons, a note was past to her and Kier Stammer that the Queen's death was imminent. The Queen died sometime between 2:30 and 4:30 pm as Liz Truss was informed at 4:30 that the Queen was dead and news began spreading to the Commonwealth Realms. The UK public were informed just after 6 pm. Harry was already en route to Balmoral by this point.

3) Harry knew the Queen was dead before he left Frogmore. The reason for his delay was Meghan wanted to come to and Prince Charles allegedly had to tell him it wasn't appropriate.

And why would they tell Harry the Queen was dying? Meghan would have been on the phone within 30 seconds to Gayle King.

[quote] Charles Told Prince Harry of Queen Elizabeth’s Death Five Minutes Before Official Announcement

Translation: Charles is a Dick

We already knew that.

[quote] Philip went home from the hospital at almost the age of 100. You would think that his grandson would want to be informed of his death.

Maybe Philip was the one who asked about the "color" of their baby.

That could be why Harry snubbed him.

Or maybe there was a pandemic going on and he couldn't travel for the funeral.

What can be done with Harry’s hair?

Wasn't it written in several publications that a security officer Diana was having an affair with "died" in a motorcycle accident, and Charles told her about it at the moment their car doors were opened for them at Cannes Film Festival? Barry Mankakee? Does that sound right? Yeah, Charles is a dick! 😂

All babies are PINK.

[quote] All babies are PINK.

Except when they're BLACK.

According to Tom Bowers' Revenge, before Meghan was even pregnant (maybe before they married?), Camilla joked "what if their baby has a red afro?" Harry laughed, but later told Meghan, who was not amused.

That's supposedly the source of "They speculated about what color the baby will be!" Kind of a letdown, huh?

[quote]What can be done with Harry’s hair?

Get a damn haircut. Short on top. He looks like a bum.

In the story above, about the embassy sending the sheriff to inform Harry of Philip’s death, if I was the royal family, I wouldn’t have bothered. I’m sure they left dozens of messages. When the Lazy Prince woke up at noon, he would have seen them and a valuable lesson would have been learned. They (ie the Queen and Charles) kept enabling his shitty behavior. It’ll be delicious to watch when William is king.

[quote]King Charles Told Prince Harry of Queen Elizabeth’s Death Five Minutes Before Official Announcement

Boy, those people know petty.

Apparently, Harry was scrambling and informed Charles five minutes before the news broke of his publishing a tell-all book.

Also, for all those people who still think that Harry is James Hewitt's son...

OP's pic of Harry looks EXACTLY like Philip's profile. That nose is identical.

So Harry was too late to get the flight to Balmoral because his domineering wife wanted to go to even though Charles said it was only family. Sophie Wessex being the only exception given her close relationship with the Queen. So pussywhipped Harry threw a hissy fit because the battle axe couldn't go.

He has only himself to blame. And nobody's going to tell him in advance that the Queen is dying because Meghan would have run to Obie and Gayle King to give them a scoop before the Commonwealth could be told.

Charles invited them to come to Balmoral to visit the Queen before they started their ersatz royal tour and they proudly told Omid they weren't going. Fuckers.

R206 His Majesty's loyal subject.

I thought Harry was waiting for the Queen to die before he’d allow his book to be published. Meghan supposedly had lawyers scrubbing her pre-recorded podcasts to remove any potentially objectionable content.

R150 Meghan isn’t dead yet.

Can Harry and Meghan make a career out of trashing the Royal family? Sooner or later they'll run out of material and they have no other talents to sell.

r210 I think you have some of your times wrong.The british public was not informed just after 6pm that the Queen had died but nearer to 7- around 6.45

R228 I doubt it. How much longer can the public stand the tantrums of a millionaire, and NOT a self-made one at that, born into one of the wealthiest and privileged families in the world?

Inflation is soaring, there’s a housing crisis, a climate disaster, a raging war in Ukraine, etc. We have bigger fish to fry than to worry about a prince’s oversensitivities.

Better than five minutes before it happened.

Did this shithead and his cunt wife go back to the US yet?

I think it was Harry who wanted MM to be there with him, not her wanting to thrust her way in. He's afraid to face his family alone. If it is true that she wrote to KClll asking for a private meeting, it would be for the same reason.

On the day of the Queen’s death I posted some ‘insider information’ but got shouted down and nearly run out of town by the infestation of those who don’t know this is a gossip site. From a reliable contact at one of the U.K. based embassies: death occurred some time after but close to 2.30pm. Government departments and foreign embassies were notified in the ensuing hours, as per protocol. Official public announcement was due to be made at 5.30pm but this was delayed in the hope that Harry would arrive at Balmoral in time for family to be together. All relevant authorities knew about there being a Harry related delay but didn’t know why. As time passed, there was news that he was hiring a private jet and possibly wouldn’t make it on time. With poor weather mid flight causing further delay to his arrival decision was made to go with the 6.30pm announcement. Embassy staff were getting regular updates of Harry’s progress and reason for announcement delay. It was all about the optics of having close family members at Balmoral, together, at the time of the announcement. With this level of contact and communication how could any claim be made that he had not been informed earlier?

"All about the optics" - THIS! They always were, and always will be all about the optic. Therefore, whatever really happens in any situation related to them is always open to speculation.

R234, and you're still not able to explain why Harry had to be at Balmoral in order for the public announcement to be made. Harry's presence at Balmoral is entirely irrelevant to what time the public was officially told. The announcement wasn't even made from Balmoral or from the royal family directly, but by a notice posted outside Buckingham Palace. Which "optics" are you referring to exactly?

R235, there weren't any "optics" to the announcement. It was posted up outside Buckingham Palace and the public heard from the news shows and online media. We didn't even see any members of the royal family that day, aside from some quickly snatched photos of some of them in transit. There was absolutely no expectation from the public that the royal family would have to be together before the Queen's death was publicly announced.