Duke and Duchess of Sussex ‘uninvited’ to state reception at Buckingham Palace

A source close to Prince Harry said the decision was made without his intervention and that he was prepared to wear whatever his grandmother had made plans for.

One Royal source has been quoted as saying: “Common sense has prevailed.

“It was a ludicrous situation given the Duke of Sussex has served his country and is a highly respected member of the armed forces with everything he has done for veterans.

“It is important that the Queen’s grandchildren are all made to feel welcome and comfortable as they grieve their beloved grandmother together.”

At the state funeral on Monday, both Prince Andrew and Prince Harry will be in morning dress.

This is really getting petty now. JFC. One unfortunate plane crash if Willy continues to insist the entire family flies together, and guess who is in the lineup?

Good

You can't trust these two around world leaders and dignitaries. They're always working an angle like they were at the Lion King premiere. I wouldn't put it past them to try to buttonhole Biden himself in order to gain some entree into American politics etc or something advantageous to their plans to make money off their titles.

It’s funny that Charles insists it was his beneficent decision to allow Harry to wear the uniform tomorrow, without mentioning that he was likely the one who banned Harry from wearing it in the first place.

How much do you want to bet Andrew will be there? Uncanny how he just manages to pop in!

I think the Palace staff is making all of these ridiculous decisions, and not Charles himself.

Just looking at how they deal with the pen situation and the tiny desk situation, tells me that it's "amateur hour" with these people.

They seem completely clueless, judging from how decisions are made, and then reversed.

I'll bet this one will be reversed, as well.

You have goddamned idiots running the show, now that the Queen is dead.

let's hope it was worth the $7M they got for the interview with Oprah which aired perceived family problems in public.

This entire fucked up family seems to spend most of its time leaking information against each other to the papers.

There's been a shit ton of communication fuck ups this past week.

King Chuck's Team needs to get it together.

He’s getting so, SO BALD. It’s sad, really.

Why does Harry have those red dots that cokeheads get as their septum collapses?

Because he doesn't, r12

I would not be walking 5 paces behind anyone. If my brother is heir and I get little to nothing, I would have struck out on my own from day one. Harry should have left them a long time ago.

Harry left but wanted it both ways.

Another royal fuck-up.

[quote] There's been a shit ton of communication fuck ups this past week.

[quote] King Chuck's Team needs to get it together.

Exactly. HORRIBLE communication.

All of these disinvites makes Charles and his Administrative Staff look bad.

Really bad.

Ouch. That's gotta hurt the Sussexes if this report is correct that they're to be excluded from that reception even if his cousins are excluded, too.

That's the place to see, and be seen, 2nd only to the funeral itself.

Harry and Meghan have finally learned not to react to things. And they are starting to look good. Uninvited? That’s ridiculous. You don’t uninvited anyone from anything. You just accept your mistake and smile and accommodate. Pull up a few extra chairs. I don’t care if it’s a BBQ or a state dinner.

I love how much information gets spilled about the behind the scenes unfairness the Sussexes face...

... every time they're involved with anything.

Because Harry and Meaghan leak everything.

Imagine what an absolute disaster this reception is going to be if Charles’s staff can’t even arrange a simple document signing ceremony…

Exactly.

I'm not a fan of the Sussexes but "uninviting them" is stupid. Makes the Crown/Charles look weak, petty and foolish.

I wonder if any of the 100 employees Charles just fired is responsible for work to set up and staff this reception? Har har har

They are welcome to oversee the coat check if they are not otherwise engaged.

[quote] That's the place to see, and be seen, 2nd only to the funeral itself.

That was my first thought, Della!

It's going to be the party of the century!

Well, sort of. Since it's a funeral.

But seriously, Anyone who is anyone is going to be there.

[quote] I wonder if any of the 100 employees Charles just fired is responsible for work to set up and staff this reception? Har har har

Good point.

Some here are blaming Harry and Meghan for leaking this, but it could very well be some disgruntled staff who were sacked, that could be leaking this information.

The palace courtiers and administrators are the ones making all of these decisions, and they are well known to be a petty bunch.

My sense is that the King and Prince William are open to a reconciliation — all of the news that has come out so far supports that conclusion, much to the Klan Grannies’ chagrin — and I think that’s great. I look forward to seeing if Harry and Meghan can behave. Everyone loves a good reconciliation.

The palace staff, however, are probably not on board with any of it. The question is whether Charles is in charge or not.

Liberal uses of "sources" and "appears to" are open to interpretation. The source (Harry and Meghan) is almost always reported by Omid Scobie who has been making, and deleting statements from "sources" all week.

Imagine these two creeping around world leaders and dignitaries.....

I wonder if one of the fired employees is the one who sent Harry and Meghan the invitations. I agree there’s no take-backs for party invitations!

Do you really think the palace would leak this? Because the firm, a. Actually really likes Harry and Meghan and want them to be understood as victims, b. Like the public knowing of their ineptitude; or c. want their internal squabbles publicized, but only in this one instance?

OR ... this perfectly fits one former member's PR game for the last five years. And she doesn't know when to stop.

Is it true that Harry inherited much his mother’s estate seeing that William is provided for by the Crown?

[quote] The question is whether Charles is in charge or not

Charles in charge Of our days and our nights…

Harry's mother had no estate. The Spencers were broke. The only money she had was from her divorce settlement with Charles.

The Markles should not be invited to the state reception, so it's good they were univited or never invited in the first place. They are not working royals.

The Markle kids should NOT be named prince and princess and definitely not HRH.

Harry should be told to not have his book published and not air family laundry in public; otherwise, he is unwelcome in the family forever.

Markle should be told to end her podcasts and not air family laundry in public; otherwise, she is unwelcome in the family forever.

Harry needs to get a goddamn haircut. He looks like shit.

As noted earlier, they ALL fucking leak like a sieve. All of them. Fingers pointing every which way.

R28, I know right? So scary!!! It’s best to instead surround world leaders with Andrew who pays for underage sex slaves. So much more dignified!

This whole story sounds like a) The Telegraph stirring shit and guess what, hating Harry and Meghan sells their paper. And b), if true, then the BRF staffers are the ones who are creating the drama and keeping it alive.

Wouldn't it be something if one of the sacked is part of the kitchen staff working this gig and dumps some e. coli into the starter? What a shit show! Dignitaries in Depends!

[quote] Ouch. That's gotta hurt the Sussexes if this report is correct that they're to be excluded from that reception even if his cousins are excluded, too

Pfft! The Sussexes are beyond being hurt by the petty foolishness of the BRF. I don't even think the King or the Prince of Wales are behind most of this nonsense. It is all those administrative nobodies that run the BRF.

There is only so much foolishness anyone will tolerate before they are done. If they flew back to CA tonight everyone would lose their minds. So they're prepared to make it through Monday and then they will be truly done.

So they're not invited then? Maybe they were afraid of diplomatic incidents with La Markle who would be thrilled to repeat anything anybody told her. She has no content for her stupid podcast. You're supposed to keep your mouth shut at events like this. She notoriously can't.

As for the criticism of the Palace, they've been running this whole show and so far they've pulled off the impossible from an organizational point of view. It's been magnificent.

Right now, it’s leaks from every which way that these two weren’t invited and don’t belong. If the reception goes well and includes these two, there will be leaks from every direction about how it was a genius idea of Charles’s…no, William’s…no, Kate’s…no, Fergie’s…no, Sophie’s…no, Meghan’s…to have them there.

Regardless of what is happening with this state event, if the news is correct that the Waleses and the Sussexes had dinner together this week, it’s a pretty clear sign that William and Harry have rounded a corner.

[quote] The Markles should not be invited to the state reception, so it's good they were univited or never invited in the first place. They are not working royals.

"The Markles" are the Mountbatten-Windsors. What is your surname? Oh, nevermind, we don't know you.

Well get a load of Her Royal Highness, the Queen of CUNTS at R34!

Acting like she's actually SOMEBODY.

Have there been any leaks that don't involve Harry and Meghan? And how hard it's been for them or how noble they've been or how well they're dealing with it all or how much worse Andrew is than they are?

[quote] So they're not invited then? Maybe they were afraid of diplomatic incidents with La Markle who would be thrilled to repeat anything anybody told her.

Rofl!

You just reminded me of the Linda Tripp and Monica Lewinsky skit on SNL.

I can just imagine Meghan leaning in to record the world leaders for her Netflix special!

[quote] Have there been any leaks that don't involve Harry and Meghan?

The conflicting leaks about whether Charles or William deserved the credit for the “Fab Four” walkabout earlier this week? The conflicting leaks about whether Charles or William deserved the credit back when the ax finally fell on Andrew and he settled his lawsuit? There is going to be a LOT of drama going forward between the King and Prince of Wales, apart from anything to do with Harry and Meghan.

I'm calling it. The Sussexes will be at that reception.

The distinction between PH and his cousins, of course, is that he's the son of the King, they're nieces and nephews.

I think KC will sigh, cave-in, and invite Prince Harry and Markle even if he sees it as unnecessary and it's a small thorn in his butt cheek.

I also think he wants to help the Sussexes. I think he sees their "brand" (ugh) is precarious and no better place to help is them being seen at that reception.

Of course, he'll make both of them submit to a full-probe, no-body-cavity-excluded body search; a shakedown to end all shakedowns, to check for body cams and mics.

I just made that last sentence up outta thin air cuz I had fun typing it.

Markle cannot shut the fuck up. You don't invited big mouth gossips like her to events where you can stir up diplomatic incidents.

Yeah, because she's SO FUCKING POWERFUL. Lucky for her this is an event where everyone discusses their state secrets! Give it a rest.

They aren't working royals, have made it perfectly clear they don't want to be, so why do they even want to be invited to the state dinner?

[quote] I also think he wants to help the Sussexes. I think he sees their "brand" (ugh) is precarious and no better place to help is them being seen at that reception.

Their “brand” is monetizing the monarchy. If weak Chuck wants to continue to receive bundles of $$$$$$ and assist his offspring in the corruption of the BRF, then this action speaks volumes in itself.

Someone within that Place staff is really working overtime to sabotage them and provoke some kind of reaction. It is not unsusal, in fact expected that Charles would delegate to staff the arrangement for all the events. But after allowing Andrew his uniform which was stripped in disgrace, Charles had to personally intervene for Harry. Now this. IF it is true, which I doubt. Harry and Meghan are in the same position Beatrice, Eugenie, Zara Phillips, Peter Phillips, etc. are in. Like their cousins they are not working Royals. However, unlike their cousins, Harry's father is the King. And the King can decide to do whatever. But if he is hosting a state reception, my guess is that Princess Anne, and Edward, Sophie and William and Katherine will be the only Royals in attendance. No Andrew, and no cousins. Now some asshole journalist from Murdoch and friends is asking who will attend. Is told no Harry and Meghan aren't on the list. How else would the media now if not being told by someone working in the Palace. Harry and Meghan were right about the viciousness and backstabbing. Those leakers are still at it. lies, distortions and telling tales.

But you... you're uninvited!

Meghan Duchess of Suckdick's participation will go something like this:

Poor Kate once again has to take one for the team. She can’t attend functions she should attend because they don’t want the other wife in attendance.

THE DAILY MAIL

"We've been treated like commoners!"

Harry & Meghan have claimed since they returned to The United Kingdom.

Does anyone know where I can see the pic of “ghoulish” Meghan behind King Charles? I think I missed that.

Ah r24, the cunt that keeps on cunting you never disappoint.

R58 the photo is linked at R28, but I'll link it again.

A photo is a snapshot of a moment in time. Is there video footage of Meghan somehow eyeing a camera kilometers away and continually mugging for it? You people are such twats, that's how these rags sell every time.

Do we have anyone's word for it but the Sussexes' own that they ever were invited?

Didn’t they use the same uninvited excuse at the Jubilee?

Watch Meghan say that nobody from the BRF came to Archie and Lilibet’s Autumn Equinox party.

They aren't the ones who said they were invited, r61.

Despite what a lot of people on these threads have been saying, Harry and Meghan have been mostly quiet. Harry's representative commented about the wearing of the uniform, but no one except vague "sources" are credited for this particular story.

Someone who knows more can correct me if I'm wrong, but it was Yahoo News who reported that they had been invited, then a few hours later, it was announced they were uninvited.

I can't find a single thing where Harry, Meghan, or anyone from the Palace has commented officially on this.

How do you even take back an invite? “You are hereby uninvited…”

It’s a good call. That pair are probably recording ever single interaction and ready to spin them into tabloid fodder for their podcasts and tell about books.

This is the Sussex MO. They have Scobie leak some piece of totally false intel that they *want* to happen. They're invited to the state dinner, they're invited to Balmoral, etc. Then the palace is basically forced to issue a statement saying they are NOT actually invited to this or that. Then it's reported in the press as "the beleaguered duke and duchess have been uninvited! Excluded! Is this racism at work?!?"

Anyone who falls for this again and again, I've got a bridge to sell you.

Ask yourself: when it comes to leaks, who leaks most in favour of the Sussexes?

Ask yourself: if there was confusion and a mistake made, would the Palace admit it was a mistake or up drawbridge and deny?

R66 it does smell a lot like the Sussexes are on their way to Balmoral.

If they were never invited, the Palace’s response would have been, “Only working royals were invited to attend.” Instead, in response to claims about being invited and then unintended, the Palace stated that only working royals will be attending. Someone clearly fucked up here and I don’t think Harry and Meghan are making it up. It’s of a piece with the poor execution of a lot of Charles’s duties this week.

[quote]The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are expected to attend a high-profile reception at Buckingham Palace with heads of state from around the world, Yahoo News UK understands, despite original plans that only working royals would be invited.

I feel like the most plausible explanation here is that Yahoo News UK either lied or completely boffed it, and then the Telegraph ran with the mistake and has now turned it into "omg uninvited!" when they were almost certainly not invited at all. Receptions with heads of state rarely include the extended family.

This Yahoo story comes from Kate Buck, who is a veteran news editor, and the "Meghan planted this because she is evil incarnate" crowd will have to convince me that someone like Kate Buck could be tricked by a "Scobie" or some other low-level PR flack.

[quote]I don’t think Harry and Meghan are making it up

Harry and Meghan haven't said anything.

He should get a buzzcut. Or is that considered not done for balding men within his social group?

They were never invited. This was just Omid Scobie (Meghan's mouthpiece) putting out a tweet and saying it in hopes of getting them one.

You can't be uninvited to something you were never invited to.

"Yahoo News UK understands that senior family members, including Harry and Meghan, have been invited."

understands means somebody says.

Who could that be?

If Yahoo UK published that claim based on Omid Scobie's tweet and nothing else, especially after Scobie screwed up so badly in an interview a couple of days ago and got basic facts about the funeral wrong, I will be shocked.

I will also be the first to say that should be a firing offense. No one should be stupid enough to take this Scobie person's word about anything. They've been nothing but a liability to the Sussexes and their continued alliance is shocking.

But that's a new media standard these days. You report on others' reporting and if it crashed and burns you report on that. If it's out there, it's usable. Risible but that's where we are.

The Telegraph also reported on the “uninviting,” it wasn’t just Scobie.

If this really all started with a Scobie tweet, that's all you need to know.

The Telegraph was careful to say "uninvited" in quotes, but you're right, they do say "The couple received an invitation earlier this week" which implies they confirmed an invitation was sent.

They also say in their article that they spoke with royal aides and palace staff. That means this didn't just come from Scobie.

The Telegraph would have happily published a story showing Scobie had made this all up if that's what happened, but they didn't, and they seem to be confirming an invite was sent, which makes this even more confusing.

First report, Telegraph, [bold]15 September, 8:20 pm :[/bold]

All “working members” of the Royal family are expected to attend, leaving questions over the presence of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex and the Duke of York.

The Prince and Princess of Wales will be on hand to accept condolences, as will the Princess Royal and the Earl and Countess of Wessex.

Scobie: [bold]9:48 AM · Sep 16, 2022[/bold] ·Twitter for iPhone

𝐋𝐀𝐓𝐄𝐒𝐓: On Sunday, King Charles will host world leaders, diplomats and international royals at a historic state reception at Buckingham Palace on the eve of the Queen’s funeral. Senior royal family members, including Duke and Duchess of Sussex, have been invited to join.

Telegraph, [bold]16 September 2022, 9:45pm: [/bold] (my italics, The Telegraph's entire and exact wording on the matter:)

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex [italic]appear[/italic] to have been uninvited to a state reception hosted by the King and Queen at Buckingham Palace on Sunday evening.

The couple received an invitation to the grand event for world leaders and foreign royals earlier this week but are thought unlikely to attend after palace officials insisted it was for working members of the Royal family only. [italic]unsourced, unattributed [/italic]

It remained unclear on Friday night why they had received an invitation for an occasion that [italic]Royal aides insisted [italic] they were not expected to attend.

Sources close to them appeared baffled, while [italic] palace aides continued to insist that they were not invited and were not expected to show up. [/italic]

Scobie: [bold]5:59 AM · Sep 17, 2022 [/bold]Twitter for iPhone:

UPDATE: A Palace spokesperson has reiterated this morning that Sunday’s state reception is “for working royals only”. No further comment or guidance on why the Sussexes were invited (and now seemingly uninvited).

Nobody is attributing the assertion non-working members of the Royal Family were invited. The original official line was working members of the royal family. The Telegraph only quotes denials they were ever invited. I can't see the inference the Telegraph is confirming an invitation was sent.

Sorry for the formatting fuck up.

Just because something is unattributed doesn’t mean it’s unsourced. The Telegraph states the below line as a fact, not “rumored” or “someone on Twitter says” -

[quote] The couple received an invitation to the grand event for world leaders and foreign royals earlier this week but are thought unlikely to attend after palace officials insisted it was for working members of the Royal family only.

Good effort though!

It's fun to toy with the guest list!

Dear, the source could be Scobie. And who feeds him?

R66 makes a lot more sense than squinting to read the tea leaves but we'll have to wait for the Maul to get to the bottom of it. And it will.

Myself, Maya Angelou makes a lot of sense too: when someone shows you who they are, believe them.

[quote]this is an event where everyone discusses their state secrets!

I'm ready!

They treat us like the "poor country cousins!"

R80, the phrases "The couple received an invitation" and "The couple received an invitation earlier this week" are both in the Telegraph article. No one is inferring, we're reading what's been said.

If they had no confirmation about the invitation, they would have said "it was reported that the couple received an invitation" or "it was thought that the couple received an invitation."

The Telegraph didn't use a Scobie tweet as their only source. They said they spoke to palace and royal aides.

This isn’t a palace screw up. This reeks of Meghan’s PR. They did the same thing with her going to Balmoral. They were never invited and they were pissed so made up this story for the media. She is a lunatic.

The palace doesn't issue the invites to state events. It's the Foreign Office.

If this all happened because of a Scobie tweet, The Telegraph would have said so. Everyone jumped all over Scobie the other day for their stupid comments about the funeral, and they'd jump all over him for this, too.

Ok, if it's that important to be wrong, be wrong.

Palace spokesman confirms that Duke and Duchess of Sussex are indeed welcome to attend Sunday's reception and state dinner; regrettably though, the only remaining seats are at the "kids' table."

While this is all fodder for everyone who wants to see the Sussexes punished over and over, I think the reason they’re not attending is that their children are en route (or have recently arrived) in the UK.

It doesn’t have to be a Scooby tweet. It could be MM or her PR.

Why at this point? Funeral's in three days and then they turn around and go home. If the kids are coming, surely they're already here?

Thanks r59! It is a bit Morticia Adams

Funny how there is a created distinction between working royals and nonworking royals. Besides the monarch, most people see all of the royals as non working. So there are fancy dress royals and formal dress royals based on how many Tesco's ribbons are cut irrespective of military service?

Scotland, RUN!

I wonder if some of this is caused by some pro-Andrew person on the staff who is trying to get him invited to things he wants to go to. Since Harry and Andrew seem to be dealt with on equal terms, if Harry goes to something or does something, in many cases Andrew does the same.

Andrew has never accepted any of the punishments he has received, he is very bitter about them and very entitled. He thinks the whole matter should be dismissed and he should go on with his life completely undisrupted and unpunished. He doesn’t see he’s done anything wrong or that he should be sorry in any way. All he sees is, I want to wear a fancy dress uniform, I want to go to every event and be fussed over as a BRF member like I used to. I don’t want anything to change in my day to day life. He’s a narcissist.

And if Andrew is allowed to wear his uniform, the public asks, why not Harry as well. If Andrew is invited to some event, the public asks, why not Harry as well. The public are the ones that don’t care overly about protocol, they’re the ones that peer pressure the palace into doing things that are not traditional or are out of the ordinary.

Meanwhile, a lot of staffers know they’re about to lose their jobs and must feel very betrayed and bitter. They have nothing to lose. Charles was an idiot to announce they would be sacked right before the funeral. A lot can go wrong. It’s not impossible for some to have become bitter and angry enough to do something to embarrass Charles or the BRF. This isn’t the nineteenth century. People aren’t necessarily going to accept being dismissed after years of faithful service without wanting to get back somehow. Some may be leaking info to the media for money too. They would get a big payout right before losing their jobs.

The Harkles haven't been quiet. They've been feeding shit nonstop to Scoobie DumDum.

[quote] Guests will be greeted by Royals including the Prince and Princess of Wales, the Princess Royal and the Earl and Countess of Wessex.

I’m chopped liver, how are you?

"Your presence is unrequested."

Having them there would be a complete distraction because they can't be trusted to behave, try to score content for Netflix or run to bff Gayle five minutes after.

How many times have we seen Scobie mysteriously allude to something these two have been invited to and they weren't invited at all, merely using something Scobie said to fish for clicks and possibly an invitation.

R97, the public doesn't give a shit about Harry and couldn't care less if Andrew can do something he can't (which isn't even the case). At least Andrew hasn't set out to deliberately destroy his family, like Harry has.

R103, the public has been inundating Twitter with hundreds of thousands of tweets defending H & M and accusing the BRF of racism for days. If you haven’t noticed that, you haven’t been paying attention.

God knows what else they’ve done, I read a few days ago that some were writing the Palace to complain about H & M’s treatment. That may not be what the British press wants to report, but it’s probably why Harry is now supposed to wear his uniform to the vigil. Or did you think Charles just changed his mind with no public pressure whatsoever, for no reason?

The RF seems very unorganized - constantly inviting, then uninviting.

Twitter is not real life. It’s not even a top 5 social media platform. Most of it is bots and Meghan has notoriously employed bots. Anything on twitter should be taken with a massive grain of salt.

You always know when someone writes, "It is understood that..." that something bad just happened or is about to happen.

[quote]Meghan has notoriously employed bots

Do you have a link for this or is this another one of those things that you're just assuming, but demanding we all believe as unimpeachable fact?

You can't come, son. It's a company dinner and we're serving Company Casserole.

I don't believe they were ever invited.

The history of H&M regarding the RF is filled with all kinds of stories that were "released" and then proved untrue. These started when MM first connected with Harry.

It's a shitty way to treat your future in-laws.

And they are still doing it.

R104, who gives a shit what some ignorant moron idiots twat on Twitter? The British public couldn't care less about Meghan and Harry and we certainly don't want them - who have betrayed and attacked our country - to represent our country at a state dinner for foreign dignitaries.

Gaslit again. It’s working wonders. To quantify, can I see a raise of hands of those who believe the Sussexes were invited in the first place?

An excellent example of why Blowers of Sunshine Up Your Ass BS PR is effective in establishing a false narrative that incessantly positions the S’s as victims of a racist, heinous firm run by black-hearted men in gray whose only objective is to destroy the 5’s forever.

To refresh, they were “invited” to Balmoral to visit with Harry’s beloved ailing grandmother this summer, but they turned down the invite and the last chance for H to be with his “grannie”. They were “invited” to attend the post-service reception and Platinum Jubilee luncheon with the other cousins and relatives but they “turned down” these invites. They were “invited” to Obama’s 60th birthday bash but they chose a staycation instead to celebrate Sparkle’s same-day birthday with just their family and a few friends. They were “invited” ad nauseam.

The template reads as follows: They were invited to an important event (fill in the blank) but they had to turn it down because of (pick one) conflicting schedules, insufficient security, personal preferences, etc.

The BRF haven’t wavered from the original statement that the reception, like the luncheon today, would be attended by WORKING ROYALS. But all it takes for the astoundingly naive is a Sparkle text to Scooby-do and the narrative is established: They’re invited! Wait, no they’re not! Alas. they’re been “victimized” over and over by the toppermost leader of the very firm they bowed and curtsied to just a few days ago.

I’d ask for anyone to make it make sense but I won’t because there is no logic or rationale involved. It’s madness wrapped in a greedy heart inside a personally-signed banana skin.

R105, Harry and Meghan were not invited to this. Why would they be? It's not their position to represent the state at a function for foreign heads of state and government.

R108, the claim that Meghan has employed bots is at least as realistic as claiming that Twitter represents British public opinion.

[quote] This is the Sussex MO. They have Scobie leak some piece of totally false intel that they *want* to happen... Then it's reported in the press as "the beleaguered duke and duchess have been uninvited! Excluded! Is this racism at work?!?"

Just like that "invite" to present Best Picture at the Oscars was pulled. Same pattern.

Dinner on Sunday

We're all excited!

And mainly because

You're not invited.

R112: hand - I do not believe they were ever invited. That would have been cleared at the highest level. It would not have been fucked up. Anything involving those around BP and you hear this:

Who types, "at a historic?"

It's "at an historic."

Scobie needs to be fired.

What is it with DL and narcissism? Almost every thread on any subject, someone gets labelled as a narcissist.

They were never invited. They’re shit and count for nothing, zero, nada, zed in terms of public life in the UK. Everyone seems to know this but them.

They said they wanted a more private life. Let’s hope the RF helps them achieve one.

"She does voiceovers, you know"

R57 Meghan looks like Morticia Addams. She must be furious she didn't get that role.

Charles and William have been greeting and chatting to people waiting in those 16 hour long queues to see the Queen's coffin. Sophie and Edward are greeting people at Buck House. The popularity of the Royal family is stunning. Who knew?

All Meghan's trolls claiming la Markle is more popular than the Royal family are looking particularly stupid now.

Seth Meyers was talking about John Kelly's comment to Trump that if Trump wasn't careful people would be pissing on his grave. Seth: if you think that line to see the Queen's coffin is long, wait till you see the one for Trump's grave.

r117. It depends on the writer/speaker. The difference between "an historic", an istoric, and "a historic" a Historic, is an aspirated H. If you pronounce the H, it is a historic. If someone writes "a historic", you can assume they speak a proper English.

But you might be an orney bugga,

[quote]It’s not impossible for some to have become bitter and angry enough to do something to embarrass Charles or the BRF.

It won't surprise me if, during the middle of the funeral, a recording comes from under the casket with a banging sound and muffled screams of "Let me out! I was just taking a nap!"

Harry is the King's son and should be invited. End of controversy. Let the global celebrity press have a feast on it. Who the fuck cares.

Back, meet pedal.

I know you're all on the edge of your seat about this: I'm shifting my prediction at r47. The amateur bookie in me is now making it even odds.

Pure speculation on my part (and, why single myself out for that?) but, if KC floated the notion of inviting the Sussexes to Princess Anne and the P & P of Wales, I've got to believe they've pushed back, even if he's the King and he can have his way.

Not out of animosity, but out of sheer, "Oh Christ, here's another thing we have to be mindful of while we're hosting this thing."

The Prince and Princess of Wales, at this reception, are making their debut to world leaders. The focus, therefore, should only be on them. Alone.

Pretty sure the focus should be on the Queen, because it’s a reception in her honor, not Baldie and Rapunzel.

R126 Meghan, the world leaders want to meet the future Royals. That means you're out of it.

This is plainly working members of the royal family stuff but it's realms and Commonwealth. If they weren't invited to this they weren't invited to the world leaders event tomorrow. Today is more important to the crown because today's guests are part of it.

The idea they were ever invited seems less and less like and feels more and more like the uniform pressure tactic.

How can you keep getting fooled by these fake stories, R125?

Yeah, r4. You can just see these two greeting the dignitaries ....

Harry: Hey, Megs, you go talk to Biden over there in the corner and I'll chat up Jamaican PM over there. No money deals from the Jamaicans but looks good to be seen.

Meghan: ....oh great idea honey. But make sure the cameraman catches us ok? Don't screw it up. Big bucks in it for us remember? And avoid Chuckie and his bride. If they see the cameraman we'll get the boot out of here and maybe out of London, maybe even the U.K. so don't mess this up. Kate is also sniffing around and watching us.

Harry: Who's the cameraman?

Because I'm willfully consenting to, and enjoying, being manipulated by gossip on a world-wide scale.

That's why.

And no, I haven't parked my critical thinking skills at the keyboard. I can weigh credibility, or a lack thereof. I know, on a very real level, ALL of this is bullshit, including my own.

But, it sure is fun!

my r131 is in reply to r129

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Charles never would have asked the Foreign Office to invite Harry and Meghan. Harry would never have expected it. And while I've made it clear that I think Meghan is terrible at PR and not any brighter than Harry is, I don't think she would have been stupid enough to try to weasel an invite for them by having Scobie tweet about it, hoping it would lead to an invitation.

I also don't believe all this happened JUST because of Scobie's stupid fucking tweet. I think The Telegraph and the Daily Mail would have both said so if that were the case, and personally, I would have appreciated it if they had, because the sooner the Sussexes get rid of that fucking moron, the better for them. Why they still use Scobie is beyond me.

[quote] Pretty sure the focus should be on the Queen, because it’s a reception in her honor, not Baldie and Rapunzel.

Sure, Jan. By all means, cling to that lofty, correct notion.

But if you think that they don't realize that that reception doesn't include an opportune time for introducing the new P& P of Wales, their debut, in that milieu, then I've got some rare cheese I harvested from the Moon I'd like to sell to you.

Apparently this event is choreographed by the Foreign Office not the Palace. And the Foreign Office doesn't want big mouth Meghan there potentially repeating anything she hears on her tacky podcast. Diplomatic incidents.

The obsession with tearing down Harry and Meghan is beyond me. But if this royal sniping is true, it's odd to me though, since King Charles now has an opportunity to untie the family and improve the public perception. I hope he does take advantage of that.

Why should Charles have to do anything? The Harkles have shown no contrition or apologized for the dozens of lies they told or the sleaze they've slung.

R137 if you had relatives who run to Oprah and every other gossip to bitch about you and wash the dirty laundry in public, what would you do? They should have had enough brains to keep their traps shut. But Meghan's too fucking jealous of Kate. She can't control it.

Here's some photos of the event

The Royals = The Kardashians

Why should Harry be invited to a reception for foreign heads of state, r124? He does not represent the British state, the British government or the British people and thus had absolutely no place at an event that concerns Britain's foreign relations.

Did Haz and Megsie slip in disguised as servers?

[quote] The couple received an invitation to the grand event for world leaders and foreign royals earlier this week but are thought unlikely to attend after palace officials insisted it was for working members of the Royal family only. unsourced, unattributed

[quote] It remained unclear on Friday night why they had received an invitation for an occasion that Royal aides insisted they were not expected to attend.

This REEKS of Palace Staffers trying to exclude the Sussexes, and not Charles.

Now that the Queen is dead, they think they're in charge and calling the shots.

Charles needs to show them who's the real boss, and over ride them.

I suppose it depends what is the purpose of the event. If the purpose of the event is so that heads of state can express condolences to the Royal Family, then it is not out of order to have non-working royals attend. That's all. If it is some kind of diplomacy event with agendas, it should ONLY be Charles and the Queen Consort, and no other "working royals". But is NOT a diplomatic event with policy agendas, is it?

r144 He's no riding anything love.

[quote] If the purpose of the event is so that heads of state can express condolences to the Royal Family, then it is not out of order to have non-working royals attend.

That would have to include all the Queen's grandchildren then. They are all due condolences as members of the RF.

But you don't see Peter, Zara, Beatrice, Eugenie, Louise and James pounding the "Me Me Me Me" drum.

I'd read rumors James, Edward and Sophie's kid, was autistic. He's now standing vigil at his Grandmother's coffin. An autistic boy couldn't handle that. So that rumor's false.

It doesn't matter what the British public thinks of Harry and Meghan.

Charles MUST extend the olive branch to them, for the sake of keeping the Commonwealth together.

He doesn't realize that Meghan can play a big part in this.

Many of these Commonwealth nations are majority black, and Charles would be stupid to not use Meghan to reach out to these countries to keep them in the union.

These people are watching the BRF's treatment of her.

They already see the BRF as a symbol of colonization and theft.

Meghan could be the key to reaching out to them, and keeping them in the Commonwealth.

But the British press would rather demonize Meghan and Harry, and exclude and punish them.

That's so short-sighted.

Meghan and Harry are EXACTLY what the BRF needs in this day and age, to be the "new face" of the BRF. They can gain access to places and people that many of the other BRF members cannot.

Charles needs to reach out to them and get them back into the fold.

R147 I didn't see Harry and Megs pounding any drum either. Link????

R149 are you Meghan's new publicist?

[quote] "Your presence is unrequested."

Haha R100.

For reasons which are well known to them.

By the way the grand kids are doing the vigil now. Live stream:

Not only that R147, merely 17 days ago, Meghan Markle was threatening the BRF via the press:

[quote] “It’s interesting, I’ve never had to sign anything that restricts me from talking. I can talk about my whole experience and make a choice not to.” Why doesn’t she talk? “Still healing,” she responds.

[quote] “I think forgiveness is really important [for the BRF]. It takes a lot more energy to not forgive,” she says wisely. “But it takes a lot of effort to forgive. I’ve really made an active effort, especially knowing that I can say anything,” she says, her voice full of meaning. And then she is silent. She breathes in and smiles and breathes out and says, [bold]“I have a lot to say until I don’t. Do you like that? Sometimes, as they say, the silent part is still part of the song.[/bold]

With the repeated lies (documented even in court), slander of the family, demands, haggling for opportunities (Bob Iger, anyone?) and work-shy appearances, the Royal Family and British Government would be [bold] insane [/bold] to have them in the company of diplomats and Heads of State.

No, R151.

But I have worked in that field before, and I know what the BRF needs at this point in time.

IF Charles were smart, he would use Meghan and Harry to his advantage.

Make them goodwill ambassadors to reach out to Commonwealth nations which are made up of majority non-white people.

They will respond to Meghan favorably, and this will translate to a positive outcome for Charles.

But for some stupid reason, the "Palace Officials" and the British public would rather see Meghan punished and vilified.

This will do nothing to help the BRF advance its interests around the world.

But hey, I guess it'll make the racists feel better about themselves, and let them think that they are "winning" this war against Meghan.

As I said before, it's very short-sighted.

The British people do not like Meg and Harry. Their approval ratings are in toilet.

All the rest of this shit is just noise

R155 I don't believe Meghan wants that life. If she did that's what they could have done. She wants to make money off of being a Duchess and being in the RF that isn't going to happen.

R149 and R155 - that would be true if the Sussexes hadn't been disloyal, spreading lies, arranging tell-all books, podcasts, documentaries. They've proven they cannot be trusted - even to the point that most think they're are wired to record conversations.

*most think they are wired...

Also, they said they wanted half-in half-out - the Queen said no - so they're out.

[quote] IF Charles were smart, he would use Meghan and Harry to his advantage.

No. Absolutely not.

Harry and Meghan are divisive and bring drama and trauma everywhere. Britain. The UN. Spotify. Netflix. Uvalde. Even the crew of Suits (pre-Harry). Hollywood.

If Charles is wise, he will keep the duo far from the monarchy and grey-rock their antics. They will never be satisfied and will continually drown those around them with their grifting and unethical behavior. There is absolutely no need to inflict them upon others. We saw a small sampling of this in their tours in Oz, Morocco and South Africa. Their inflammatory antics required diplomats and other royals to follow up and assuage the chaos they left in the aftermath of said tours.

Being Markled has become part of the English lexicon for a reason.

[quote] I don't believe Meghan wants that life. If she did that's what they could have done. She wants to make money off of being a Duchess and being in the RF that isn't going to happen.

There IS a way to do both, and make it mutually beneficial for both parties.

As I said, IF Charles were smart.

The Queen may not have wanted BRF members to monetize the monarchy, but I don't think Charles is opposed to it.

He has accepted bags of cash from Saudis, for fuck's sake!!

Spread some of that wealth around!

He can use Meghan for his own interests, and Meghan can make money from it. It's a WIN-WIN for both parties!!

Charles will receive much goodwill by embracing Harry and Meghan, and Meghan will get her fame and fortune.

It's how the world works today, in this age of social media.

Charles needs an influencer on his team, and Harry and Meghan ARE those people.

It's a perfect match, if only Charles would understand the medium.

[quote] that would be true if the Sussexes hadn't been disloyal, spreading lies, arranging tell-all books, podcasts, documentaries. They've proven they cannot be trusted - even to the point that most think they're are wired to record conversations.

This is the perfect opportunity for a re-start.

Both sides said and did things to hurt the other side.

Let bygones be bygones, and work together for a mutually beneficial outcome.

For fuck's sake, they should hire me and I'll hammer out the details.

For a hefty fee, of course.

It's obvious what happened here. Harry and Meghan still don't understand that leaving means leaving and no they are not equal to Will and Kate . They don't like the non working royal treatment at all and really wanted to go to this working royal gig to up their status . So they had their pet poodle put out the information that they are attending this event too , hoping that Charles would cave and just let them attend because denying it after the fact would look bad .

Who deploys someone they can't trust?

I suppose R155 worked in the field once but it doesn't sound like she's very good at it. Perhaps that explains the past tense.

Yes, great idea. r161. On paper. In reality, I would say by KC 'hoisting' his PR apparatus with hers and hoping for the best is a nightmare scenario. But most importantly, even if it were to "go well" the real risk is that over time (and I say over a decade or two), the BRF standing in public opinion will be as low as the Kardashians.

That is the risk with playing wiht the likes of Markle. He can do it. But he throw away the monarchy along with it.

Take your pick.

[quote] He has accepted bags of cash from Saudis, for fuck's sake!! Spread some of that wealth around!

R161 advises monetizing the monarchy openly and grifting.

R161 advocates for such openly corrupt practices and makes repeated claims they’d like to be involved in such practices.

Likely R161 is part of Donald Trump’s entourage.

Corruption is King! (according to R161)

[quote]He has accepted bags of cash from Saudis, for fuck's sake!!

Be precise with your compelling arguments. Or do they collapse once precision is required?

R155 The nonwhite people of the Commonwealth country of South Africa told Meghan in essence to fuck off for her lies that a non-existent actor told her they danced in the streets for her wedding like they did for Mandela’s release. What makes you think Commonwealth countries would welcome her? The Canadians were happy to see them depart and the Australians don’t want to see them again.

R166 The bags of cash were donations to The Prince’s Trust, monies used to assist mostly nonwhite students in the UK and Commonwealth.

Not quite the same things as books and podcasts and tv series trashing your family and running down the institution that made you famous.

If Harry didn’t belong to the lucky sperm club, he’d be lucky to get a job cutting meat at Tesco.

[quote] the BRF standing in public opinion will be as low as the Kardashians.

If the Kardashians were that unpopular, they wouldn't be billionaires.

The BRF will never be popular with everyone.

But by using Harry and Meghan to their advantage, they could become MORE popular.

This is a critical point that could make or break the monarchy.

More infighting? BAD. Reconciliation? Good. Getting along with each other and working together? Best.

And as nasty as you are R165, I do understand where you're coming from.

But you're very out of touch with today's world.

Influencers make their livings today by monetizing THEMSELVES.

This isn't grift or corruption. It's self-promotion.

And it's no different from the monarchy opening up tours of the castle, or a gift shop, or anything else like that.

Except, it's done on a much larger scale, through social media, with a much larger audience.

And it makes a LOT more money than the old school way that you are used to, R165.

Something tells me that you will never accept this new way that the world works, but people like you get left behind.

Influencing and social media is where it's at today. And if everyone else is making millions this way, then why not the BRF?

Prince Harry, the Duke of Sussex Prince Harry’s popularity among the British public has fallen in recent years, , with only 11% saying he is their favourite member of the Royal Family, and the way he is perceived may help to explain why. While people are most likely to describe him as modern (25%), almost as many say that he is out of touch with ordinary people (22%). On the other hand, one in 5 (20%) say he has a lot of personality.

Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex Similarly to her husband, the Duchess of Sussex has seen her popularity in the UK decline over the years with only 6% now choosing her as their favourite royal. This is reflected in the characteristics the public applies to her. Britons are most likely to say Meghan is out of touch with ordinary people (24%) while a similar proportion say she is more style than substance (23%). On the other hand, 18% describe her as modern, and 14% that she is concerned about discrimination and injustice in society. Again, many do not have a clear image of her, with 16% choosing none of the options and 11% saying they don’t know.

Since she can't be Kate, she'd like to destroy Kate.

If allowed, Meghan would destroy the BRF - or at least make them all seem like fools. Like the Kardashians. Well actually, worse. The K's aren't in a position to wreck their country's reputation. (uh Trump's already done that but that's irrelevant -- why make matters worse when it's so easy to just gray rock the Harkles to protect the BRF, as much as humanly possible)

John Kani is a South African actor and director who’s well known for playing T’Chaka in Captain America and Black Panther. He also appeared in The Lion King, where he lent his voice to the popular monkey Rafiki. Kani disputed Markle’s story. “I have never met Meghan Markle. This seems like something of a faux pas by her. I have never met the Duchess at all. I am the only South African member of the cast and I did not attend the premiere in London,” he told the British newspaper MailOnline.

[quote] The nonwhite people of the Commonwealth country of South Africa told Meghan in essence to fuck off for her lies that a non-existent actor told her they danced in the streets for her wedding like they did for Mandela’s release. What makes you think Commonwealth countries would welcome her?

Ahh, but you see, THIS is why Meghan also needs the BRF.

By working with THEIR handlers, Meghan will have the discipline she desperately needs.

Meghan says and does very stupid things. But so do Charles, and William, and the others.

The difference is that the BRF has their Palace Staff to "fix" things for them.

Meghan needs good p.r. people like the Buckingham Palace handlers, and not some amateur like Omid Scobie.

What was that going to make or break again, expert?

Canadians were happy to have them here at first, R162, but after it was discovered that they expected Canadians to pay for their security people were happy to see them go. That was at the beginning of covid, just as people began losing their jobs and having to shut their businesses, paying for Harry and Meghan thru the pandemic would have been a disaster for the government.

[quote] Influencing and social media is where it's at today. And if everyone else is making millions this way, then why not the BRF?

Because they SERVE as governmental functionaries in Britain.

They:

1) Are not Business people

2) Do not Function solely to make $$$$$$

3) Have a duty as Head of State to serve people.

4) Are NOT “Influencers” (can’t believe this has to be stated)

Jesus, R169, everything is NOT all about the Benjamins. Some things transcend money.

Perhaps educate yourself on the workings of the British government.

Speaking of being “short-sighted”, R169, take a look in the mirror.

[quote]I think KC will sigh, cave-in, and invite Prince Harry and Markle even if he sees it as unnecessary and it's a small thorn in his butt cheek.

I don’t think so this time, Della. And for two reasons…1) it seems like every time Harry wants something he leaks to the media. It’s blackmail and sooner or later you need to put a foot down and this is as good a time as any because 2) Meghan doesn’t have a filter. Just using an absurd example…what if the president of Iran is seen talking to the German delegation? Will that get put out there? I could see KC3 wanting to make guests comfortable and that would mean excluding the people who blab.

[quote]Influencing and social media is where it's at today. And if everyone else is making millions this way, then why not the BRF?

This tells you everything you need to know about the value of this advice. She doesn't understand anything about who she's advising.

The tonsure is quite something.

Has he taken the sacraments?

I trust R174 does not consider themself to be an “influencer”

Because they’re not influencing anyone here to do anything but rebut every ridiculous thing they say.

I really like the term "Working Royals". I would like to think of them hitched up like plow horses to some gigantic hay wagon, fully decked out in their best, pulling their treasure trove of belongings around London. Then they would stop and the brainless royalists would rush to them when they stopped to give them buckets of mashed sumptuous food, and wine. Then King Tampon would get back up on the haywagon and snap his whip over their heads for them to begin their journey around London.

There would be a "non-working royal remora", like the Montecito kids that would have cleanup duty behind them to scrape the shit off the road.

The Americans would love it. I know I would.

R169 is also the author of these gems, elsewhere: "She can choke on the Kohinoor diamond, for all I care. Kate will always be a rotten cunt.” And “Well then the painter really DID capture their true essence. Because that could sum up Barack and Michelle's entire eight years in the White House. She's a bitch. There. I said it.” “And Klan Grannies are fingering themselves as op types!”

R175 What you refuse to see is the fact that Meghan refuses to be handled. She wants to do what she wants when she wants to, and she wants to make money off anything she does

[quote] They: 1) Are not Business people 2) Do not Function solely to make $$$$$$ 3) Have a duty as Head of State to serve people. 4) Are NOT “Influencers” (can’t believe this has to be stated)

[quote] Jesus, R169, everything is NOT all about the Benjamins. Some things transcend money.

I think you're the one who is being naive, if you think that's what the BRF is all about.

For starters, think about how they acquired all their wealth in the first place. It was most certainly NOT through benevolent means.

Most of it was through ill-gotten gains.

And they are still monetizing the monarchy, albeit through more subtle means today.

But make no mistake, they are STILL a money-making enterprise.

Just look at Charles' personal wealth.

That wasn't made and/or acquired by being a "government functionary."

So you're the one who is being unrealistic.

^ Troll.

While I admire your vehemence, r169, and I agree that it's a new world, let's take a look at the old world's actual record.

Markle was a mid 30s, divorced, "C" List actor on a 3rd or 4th tier cable series with not many moves left.

She and the Prince laid eyes on each other, and other body parts, fell in love, got married.

I never shared the popular opinion of her that she was to be vilified because she set her cap on the Prince and snagged him.

Instead, I thought, "this is interesting, let's see how they play their cards" and I had in mind exactly what you've listed for them as what could be their roles as working Royals.

All that stuff you've listed as to why they would be good for the Monarchy? Everybody knew that, except them, back then.

They blew it.

In retrospect, I was correct when I pointed out back then that the NY City "A List" Celebrity Trash Show-Folk Baby Shower was a mistake. It revealed that she saw the job of Royal as being a "celebrity" and not, and correctly, seeing that as a Royal, mere celebrity is beneath you, and that, once in a while, for a charity Gala or premier, if you must, you mingle with them.

I feel sorry for Markle because, Prince Harry , as a male, will be forgiven before she will be.

Why feel sorry for her? Hoist on her own petard.

R186 seems to miss the fact that no-one else here thinks they make any sense.

But keep posting the same drivel, now updated to say that the royals are all thieves and exploiters.

Not a great argument as to why H&M should start working for them, either, but I guess you go with what you’ve got when you don’t have much to start with.

They were NEVER invited. They don't work as Royals anymore so why would they be invited?

I’m sorry they are being slighted (esp Harry) but is it really being slighted or just the way it plays out for non-working Royals?

LOL by all means, set Harry and Meghan loose to represent the RF. That worked out so well before. Why would Charles want them doing anything for an institution that they have both trashed for the past three years? Then there would be the bad PR of the staff constantly quitting because Megdusa can't control herself.

Meghan and Harry sure seem to have abandoned their kids, don't they. Such attentive parents. They're just accessories to get publicity. I'm thinking there really is no reason for them to be named Prince and Princess. They are both US citizens, US residents and Lilibet was born here. We don't have titles in this country. Why would Charles give them titles if they don't live in the UK? Maybe if they moved back to the UK, they could get them. But sitting out in LaLaLand?

[quote] LOL by all means, set Harry and Meghan loose to represent the RF. That worked out so well before.

Oh, please.

They've done it before and they have done just fine.

[quote] And they are still monetizing the monarchy, albeit through more subtle means today.

Perhaps this is true. But [bold] subtle[/bold] is the key word here. Not claiming the BRF are saints.

However, the point still stands: the BRF have a duty to serve. What you are advocating is for an open display of aggregating monies: corruption.

We are seeing the US government devolve in real time as a result of open corruption.

Your insistence on denying Markle’s - and Harry’s - unethical behavior leads me to believe you are:

1) Openly Corrupt

2) Delusional

3) A Troll as others suggest

All three of those options, R186, explain why you project and accuse others of being “short-sighted”, “unrealistic”, etc.

Again self-knowledge does not seem to be a trait Harry, Meghan or their advocates (like yourself) share.

Once again: MIRROR.

R193 you forget that Harry and Meghan were actually working royals previously, and they received warm welcomes everywhere they went.

Here in New Zealand...

Meghan addressing women's suffrage in New Zealand.

R197 that was years ago. Since then, the couple has demonstrated vile behavior.

Now, (as in this week), this the the reception they are receiving

Harry and Meghan in Fiji.

They would NOT have been invited to this "STATE" reception. They are no longer working royals.

Scooby Doo, the Sussex mouthpiece, announced it so it must be true. They probably wanted to go so bad but the BRF didn't take the bait.

^And she ran away from her duty at a Fijian market; angering her sponsors and upsetting her staff.

So much for Markle on tours. She’s “repugnant”.

In Australia...

Who is the idiot posting old photos of Harry and Meghan on their tour? They're over.

And Meghan was even popular in the UK, especially with young people.

No one cares about the old haters who only see her race.

The BRF needs to focus on reaching a younger and more diverse audience.

Exactly r203. Meghan was warmly welcomed as Harry's bride, in Britain and mostly the Anglophone countries of the Commonwealth. He was a popular young fellow and everyone was happy for him. Then they showed us their true characters and since then they have been greatly disliked everywhere.

In Morocco.

Scobie is spamming the DL.

Ah, The Telegraph solves the mystery: an old, pre-flounce list.

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex were invited to a state reception at Buckingham Palace in error, The Telegraph understands.

The couple received a formal invitation to the event for world leaders and foreign royals early last week and had no reason to believe they were not expected to go.

However, palace aides subsequently declared that only working members of the Royal family would attend, causing notable confusion.

The Sussexes were eventually said to have been informed on Friday night that there had been a mix-up and that they were not actually invited to what has been described as an “official state event”.

Whether or not the message was received appeared in dispute.

However, the couple are not expected to attend.

It is thought a mistake may have been made when invitations were sent to the original list of working royals drawn up as part of plans made in advance of the Queen’s death, before the Sussexes moved to the US.

Now that the landscape has shifted, the prospect of the couple standing shoulder to shoulder with the King, Queen Consort and Prince and Princess of Wales as they welcomed heads of state from across the globe appeared, to some, inconceivable.

While all members of the Royal family have determined to put on a united front during the mourning period in honour of the late Queen, personal relationships are understood to be at an all time low.

The palace reception is a formal occasion for all presidents and prime ministers, foreign royals, governors-general and ambassadors who have travelled to London for the funeral on Monday.

At Royal Albert Hall.

And no, R208.

Not spamming.

Just showing that Harry and Meghan are perfectly capable of being working royals again.

They did it before, and they were good at it.

But some of you are acting as though they're completely incapable and unfit for doing the job.

Which is absolutely untrue.

The creepiest thing about Meghan is that she has the face and voice of a 40 year old woman, but everything about her screams 12 year old girl. From the reference to the Little Mermaid, the desperation to be validated and have a voice, crying the no one protected her or asked if she was okay, needing to constantly hold hands, the fits and tantrums when she doesn't get her way, the immature idealism about changing the world, the way long handwritten letters to express her deepest feelings to family and friends. It's weird and honestly a little triggering because something must have happened to stunt her emotional growth so badly, right?

"The Telegraph understands" being the only believable part of that, r209.

Meghan's publicist: that was all before she trashed the Royal family and the Brits to Oprah, telling stupidly easy to verify lies. She's finished.

So what's the truth then, R212?

[quote]King Charles now has an opportunity to untie the family

Except leave Fergie tied up.

R205 It is too bad she had to blow it all up.

The Times: However, the pictures of them arriving separately at Balmoral the day the Queen died indicated the bad blood between them. Behind the scenes, those close to the brothers confirm there has been “no meaningful rapprochement” despite the pair seeing more of each other over the past week than in the two-and-half years since the Sussexes departed these shores.

Both joined the royal family at a Buckingham Palace dinner on Tuesday night after the Queen’s coffin returned to the capital, but it is understood there have been no cups of tea at their neighbouring Windsor homes and the lines of communication have been mostly through their aides.

...

The Sussexes had thought they would be at Buckingham Palace on Sunday night, alongside the King and Queen Consort, who will host a reception for foreign heads of state and overseas guests attending the funeral, expected to be one of the grandest state events held at the Palace. It is understood the Sussexes were asked to the event, but their invitations were later “rescinded”, with the Palace clarifying that the event was for “working members of the royal family” only.

Whether the brothers even want to be reconciled is doubtful. As a friend of Harry’s says, “the world wants them to reconcile” but “it is very hard to make any personal decisions” with the added public weight of “how does it look?” every time they are together.

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A friend of the Sussexes says: “They are very sensitive to how everything is happening and very much see the bigger picture, not just from a personal point of view but from the family’s point of view. Meghan is not afraid of throwing in a hand grenade here and there, but there are no toys being thrown out of the pram now. Their view is ‘Lets get on and do it — we’ll be where we need to be and we won’t be where we don’t need to be’.”

So, not only were they formally invited (sorry Klan Grannies), but also the staff member issuing the invitations was so inept they didn’t catch the error before the invitations went out, and then the Palace thought the best way to resolve the issue was to awkwardly uninvite them, about the tackiest thing someone can do, and which now has blown up into a public issue. Just a total clusterfuck all around.

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[QUOTE]Charles MUST extend the olive branch to them, for the sake of keeping the Commonwealth together.

[QUOTE]He doesn't realize that Meghan can play a big part in this.

[QUOTE]But I have worked in that field before, and I know what the BRF needs at this point in time.

[QUOTE]If Charles were smart, he would use Meghan and Harry to his advantage.

You are awfully uninformed for someone who works "in the field." Or have you forgotten how shabbily she treated the hosts of the Commonwealth countries she has visited.

1) Throwing a cup of tea in the direction of the help at Admiralty House in Australia.

2) Complaining that the couple didn't get the entire house to themselves instead of a measly wing of the grand home.

3) Refusing to appear at a marketplace run by women in Fiji after they had been waiting in the heat to perhaps meet or glimpse her. The reason? She saw a banner for a UN program and threw a fit. She had been rejected as a UN goodwill ambassador for some program.

4) The now infamous 'Nobody asks how I'm doing" interview just a few hours after and not to far from where she met girls who suffered traumatic rapes. An impoverished Commonwealth nation with some of the lowest living standards on the continent and a problem with stray landmines that kill and mutilate. This is where she chose the Megxit kick off.

5) Derisively referring to the couple's accommodation in South Africa as a "housing unit" when in fact aerial views showed it's a sprawling mansion.

6) The housing unit staff provided a faulty space heater that nearly annihilated Archie even though he and the nanny were far away and there was no fire.

7) Compared her importance and popularity in South Africa t Nelson Mandela

(Note that 6 and 7 dismayed many South Africans who took to Twitter, negative Meghan trending ensued.)

Yeah, she would be a model Commonwealth ambassador in Bizzaro World.

Harry is THE BEST thing that the British Royal Family has going for it, right now.

Whether they want to admit it or not.

The Queen was most beloved before she died.

Now Harry is the most relatable, out of the entire family.

So King Chuck's staff is actually total unqualified and send out invitations according to an old list of working royals? How dumb is this? They couldn't check if H and M were welcome before they send out the invitation? Even dumber and idiotic to then uninvite them?

But sure, M and H are vindictive cunts who hate the RF, but inviting and them uninviting them and making it public was not a malicious move.

Harry’s approval rating is 11%

Meghan’s is half that.

What part of R221’s ass is he pulling that out of?

I see what's going on. The Sussexes did what they wanted when TQ was alive figuring that when Charles was King he'd be worried about his popularity and be forced to reconcile so he'd look like a loving father and king. Now the Sussex realize that might not be the case at all, that Charles popularity is fine and he doesn't need them, and they're freaking out.

This reign is going to be hilarious to watch, judging by what’s occurred so far.

I don't believe that, R223.

If the Daily Fail and all the other tabloid rags in the UK didn't poison the public about Harry and Meghan, the British people would see what a GEM Harry really is.

I cannot see any other "working royal" member of the BRF doing this with kids.

Only Harry. He's so much like his mother, in this regard.

That video was from 2016. But, yes, that's the Harry who used to be and was quite popular. Then. That's not the man he has become..

Oh, I see, the Oprah interview was just misinterpreted. The flowers by at Prince Philip's funeral was just spun. Thank you, R226, for explaining people just don't understand.

[quote]it is understood there have been no cups of tea

It would have been a lunch of rattling teacups.

Additionally, on hearing about Meghan in Australia, al teacups have been safely locked away.

R226, your arguments are getting you nowhere.

Just like the Harkles.

I think all of us can relate to having our allowances cut off when we're 38.

[quote] It would have been a lunch of rattling teacups.

The image of this makes me giggle.

R226 It's obvious you desperately want the Sussexes to be working royals again.

R226, we can see what Harry is like through his own words and actions. He is a piece of shit.

Wow, they must really want to go to this thing. They're frosted. So awkward and embarrassing. They should be firmly told yeah, no.

Hey Uncle Haz and Auntie Meg:

R2 raises a good point.

Take Dimwit and his spawn out of the line of succession.

R5, the Queen would have insisted Dimwit couldn't wear his uniform to Prince Philip's funeral. To save his feelings, none of those who usually wear uniforms did either.

R46, as far as Andrew and the lawsuit, that was the Queen's decision. She wanted it done and him handled so Charles would not have to deal with it later. Charles, in turn, appointed Bea as Counsellor of State, to keep him in line and to take care of him by elevating his daughter.

The legislation governing Counsellor of State elevated Beatrice. First four in line (of majority), plus sovereign's spouse.

R211 Meghan's a borderline. Borderlines remain adolescents their whole lives. They're a total pain in the ass.

H&M are just filler gossip while we wait for the State event and funeral. Actually, that's what they've always been. Salacious filler gossip between glamorous royal events.

I think Canadians were not at all happy to have the Harckles on Canadian soil. Not at all not from the beginning of the stay in B.C. The security issue was just icing on the cake and served to galvanize politicians to do something. I do not recall any kind of "Oh great, Meghan and Harry are moving to Canada!!"

Ah, no.

Jesus, Harry's hair @OP is giving me the willies. I don't know the name for it, but when I see mammal hair with that pattern, I get the same feeling as when I see lotus pods, or clumps of insect eggs.

May as well shave it at this point.

There would have been much less drama if Harry and Meghan had been met at the airport and immediately rushed off to a hospital and placed in drug induced comas. A statement could have been issued that the Sussexes are too overwrought with guilt for all the pain they caused Her late Majesty and Prince Philip that they will be unable to appear in public. Send them back to California after the funeral and once placed in their own comfy beds, then bring them out of their comas.

They are suffering humiliations....but, it's by their own doing. Not much sympathy from me. It's a different reign now...and grievances are showing.

[quote]Regardless of what is happening with this state event, if the news is correct that the Waleses and the Sussexes had dinner together this week, it’s a pretty clear sign that William and Harry have rounded a corner.

R41. No, they have not rounded a corner. It was a Windsor family dinner with many family members attending. It was not a dinner with only Will, Kate, Harry and Markle.

That reference to the "Fab Four" for the Cambridges and Sussexes is fucking dumb and inappropriate a hell.

They were nauseatingly the Fab Four for about five minutes. Markle wasn't there long enough and didn't do any work to be considered 'fab' anything

I think I've been watching this drama and expecting some sort of closure to occur. But it's going to drag on until all parties are dead. Twenty years from now Harry will still be bitching about uniforms at Wills coronation, Meghan will still be giving hard down by interviews to women's magazines. The Montecito kids will be smacking their gum on some new tiktok platform and bragging about their titles while simultaenously slamming the UK. There's not an end to this story. Just a question of how long everyone's individual interest will last in the ongoing saga.

Harry and Meghan will be divorced within a year.

I'll give it five years....tops.

[quote] Harry and Meghan will be divorced within a year.

Then my death will have been worth it.

Keep an eye on Viscount Severn....He looks like he could be the first openly gay Royal....

Why do you think, R252?

I posted this on the other thread but it belongs here, too.

The Foreign Office issues the invitations and they screwed them up. it's not the palace that issues the invitations. The Danish Princess Mary was invited to the Queen's funeral but they've now uninvited her because they messed up the invitations and she was never supposed to be invited.

The same probably happened to a number of people, including the Sussexes and this state reception.

Queen Margarethe is a widow so she'll need a plus one - maybe her son and not daughter-in-law? Ex-King and Queen of Greece (she's Margarethe's sister) will no doubt be there as they have lived in London since they were kicked out of Greece and are very close to the English royals.

If any royal would slap H&M without hesitation it would be Queen Margarethe. She's six feet of "Don't Fuck With Me".

I don't think he's gay, R252.

He looks like any other 15 year old boy.

If you hadn't mentioned him, I would never have even known that he existed.

I thought that Edward and Sophie only had one child - Lady Louise.

That said, he is clearly the best looking of the eight grandchildren, thanks to Sophie.

The Foreign Office messed up the invite list. That doesn't mean KC has any obligation to have the Sussexes at what's essentially a diplomatic event, not a social event or a family event. Even if one credits the "The Family Must Reunite With H&M" narrative, which is fatuous, reuniting as a family does not require having these two at a diplomatic event on behalf of the government and the nation, really, that's not being attended by RF members who aren't working-Royal status.

In addition to being asinine, all the comments on this thread about "what wonderful diplomatic assets" H&M would be, ignore the point that these two CHOSE to give up that status. You can't do it part-time and merch off it the rest of the year. That violates the RF's position of neutrality, and also is the very definition of public corruption. I'm sure even now KC would let them come back--but they'd have to give up all the celebrity merching and all their personal causes and celeb-whoring to work for The Firm. They can't have both. It's not gonna happen and it shouldn't happen. They don't belong at this event, and that is not to punish them. It's because they don't belong there.

[quote]f the Daily Fail and all the other tabloid rags in the UK didn't poison the public about Harry and Meghan

Harry and Meghan poisoned the public about Harry and Meghan, with their blatant lies and constant scheming.

But... isn't attending the funeral 'working'? It's all a show, and they are performing- just like the others.

It's grotesque the way Charles, Willz, and the family that's been on the front lines doing their jobs, are being bullied and extorted by tabloids and Twitt-iots about H&M during a week that should be about the Queen and the funereal ceremonies.

R252 Fuck off away from here with your judging and labelling of a 14 year old child.

Viscount Severn always looks like he just got cursed out and slapped. Even as a young child it seemed like he was carrying the weight of the world on his shoulders, even though his parents seem fairly loving and attentive.

R248 But William isn't ging to let him wear one

R250 Only if Meghan finds a better husband , meaning one with more money . Which is not very likely because she's aging out of the trophy wife age bracket . And Harry is never going to do it because it would mean he has to admit he made a mistake .

Once again, Harry and Meghan have been treated like absolute shit by the BRF and by Buckingham Palace cronies.

They should just leave the UK behind, and never return. It doesn't make sense for them to keep trying.

Harry is doing his duty to his grandmother this one last time.

After this, he should consider himself without a family, and just break off from them permanently and completely.

He has his own life now. He needs to focus on his family. His REAL family.

"They should just leave the UK behind, and never return." - We totally agree!

“Harry is doing his duty to his grandmother this one last time.”

Having spent roughly 15 minutes with her in the last three years and refusing repeated invitations to visit her up until the week she died, R265

R262, I couldn't decide if R252 was desperate for validation by proxy, pervy or both, but agree: yuck.

You know how Harry could have done his duty by his grandmother? By not going through with the ghastly interview with Oprah while his granfather was dying in the hospital.

You know guys, everyone who stayed away from the gossip rags this week only saw a grandson rushing to his grandmother's death bed. A grandson and his wife greeting people waiting outside Windsor castle, a grandson and his wife attending several ceremonies and services without any occurrences or special treatment. And they saw a grandson grieving and publishing a heartfelt last message to his grandmother.

Do you guys ever wonder who comes up with all these leaks, stories and intrigues? Maybe someone just makes up all these stories to get clicks and sell newspapers bc just seeing a grieving grandson is not scandalous enough. You always have to add drama, lies and betrayals to sell shitty newspapers. Harry unhappy about his uniform, Harry not invited to share the same plane, H+M humiliated and not invited to state event, Harry allowed to wear his uniform but now unhappy about removal of QE2 insignia, H+M negotiate before willing to appear with W+K, Kate looked perfect but Meghan's sleeves were too short and totally inappropriate, Meghan needed H to open her car door but Kate is an independent woman, totally inappropriate of M+H to hold hands, bla bla bla bla bla........

If I had to deal with this bs on a daily basis, I would also get the fuck out of this country asap.

[quote]In addition to being asinine, all the comments on this thread about "what wonderful diplomatic assets" H&M would be, ignore the point that these two CHOSE to give up that status.

And building on you, R258, let's not forget then they ran their mouths. From The Times, this morning:

"Yet in withdrawing the offer to the Sussexes, the so-called men in grey suits may also have been mindful that the increasingly politicised nature of some of their recent interventions – from encouraging people to vote in America to the Duke’s comments on gun control – may not sit with with the non-partisan nature of the gathering.

The snub will be a blow, however, not only to Harry as fifth-in-line to the throne and the King’s son, but also the Duchess, who – post-Megxit – has tried to reposition herself as global powerhouse, on a par with Michelle Obama, the former First Lady.

Having been tipped as a potential future Democratic presidential nominee, last October, the mother of two, 41, wrote a letter to Nancy Pelosi, the House Speaker, and Chuck Schumer, the Senate Majority Leader, advocating for paid family leave. She would therefore have delighted in pressing the flesh with President Biden (not least after she managed to swerve former President Trump’s state visit in June 2019 after giving birth to Archie, having previously described him as “misogynistic” and “divisive”.)"

So between the opportunism and the indiscretion, they've wrecked their ability to participate in many functions of the monarchy. Which appears to matter to them only to the extent it generates publicity for their own interests anyway.

R271. Wait, they encouraged people to vote and are for gun control. These are their crimes?

Let us not forget that King Charles engaged in a highly tawdry affair with a married woman and was never stripped of his ability to wear his military garb at funerals. How is his behavior not worse than Megan talking about Kate making her cry and Harry mentioning that someone in his family asked if he kids will look black?

R271, anyone who wasn't following the gossip rags (i.e. the media) would have paid little attention to Harry and his wife. They are truly inconsequential in the scheme of things here, about as relevant to the general public as Beatrice and her husband, Peter Philips or Lady Louise. Harry is only of slightly more interest because of his father and brother, not because of anything intrinsic to himself.

"Do you guys ever wonder who comes up with all these leaks, stories and intrigues?" - No, because it's a well-known fact who comes up with them: Omid Scobie.

You don't understand, R271, or you wouldn't have opened with pearl clutching morality and what abouts on who hurt whose feelings.

Chief among the responsibilities of monarchies is to avoid taking partisan stands. They have both taken partisan stands on policy issues in the United States. Where you are right is that they are inconsequential. Peter Phillips, Princess Beatrice and Lady Louise will not be at the reception for world leaders tonight. They will be at the funeral, as members of the family, and so will the Sussexes.

Harry and Meghan need to go back to the US, stop using their titles and get jobs. And stop pretending to be the Alternative Royal Family.

The paps got pics of Saint Doria out and about in LA without any grandchildren in tow so Meghan the Mother Who Flew to Uvalde Because She's a Mother for Photo OPs is such a Devoted Mother she has dumped her kids on the nannies for 3 weeks.

[quote] The paps got pics of Saint Doria out and about in LA without any grandchildren in tow so Meghan the Mother Who Flew to Uvalde Because She's a Mother for Photo OPs is such a Devoted Mother she has dumped her kids on the nannies for 3 weeks.

Doria never really raised Meghan either, so why should she start now?

She seems like an odd lady, to be honest.

The racist truth comes out eventually.

How many Pulitzers has The Grio won? I'm losing track.

[quote] She would therefore have delighted in pressing the flesh with President Biden (not least after she managed to swerve former President Trump’s state visit in June 2019 after giving birth to Archie, having previously described him as “misogynistic” and “divisive”.)"

Oooo love the burn that the Times slipped in there :)

Oh I'm a dope - I thought she said that about Biden... but in any case, Harry's first amendment crack was a pretty big faux pas. Not even sure the UN speech, however poorly attended, is good form - who made him the UK rep in the US? That's what it feels like to me - and I think it would to most people.

I agree with R272. King Charles is a hypocritical ass.

TRF just look like a bunch of bullies here. They make everything Harry and Megan said in that interview look justified because of their bullying behavior now.

It's so cute that you imagine the Harkles have any moral high ground to stand on.

[quote]Wait, they encouraged people to vote and are for gun control. These are their crimes?

You either play by the rules, or you're out. It's not complicated.

Harry and Markle are loose cannons: running to Oprah, Gayle King, even fucking Dax Shepard to spill their guts, trash their relatives and tell flagrant lies. Heads of state of dozens of countries are present at the reception. So Markle was supposed to show up with her wire to record conversations? M15 wouldn't let her anywhere near them.

Jesus fuck, give it a rest. You royal family defenders sound like soap fans defending your fave characters lol.

Thanks for dropping by and your great contribution, R285, lol.

Your work here is done R285. Now go and chide social media.

[quote] You either play by the rules, or you're out. It's not complicated.

Then the whole BRF should be OUT.

R288 ahh bless…

[quote] There's been a shit ton of communication

R10 Do you want the place to communicate using your kind of vocabulary?

[169] I live in Sussex. The Duke and Duchess have only ever spent 6 hours in my county. It’s obvious now, all she ever wanted was a quick way in to the A list in America. She has no interest in the people of Sussex (not important enough for her to be seen on the world stage) only the title that has opened doors for her to make money. This has NOTHING to do with racism. We would have been proud to have a vibrant young black woman representing us and working for us. Neither of them is interested in the work that should go with the title. I, like many in Sussex, do not want them bearing the title of our County. Remove it.

[quote] I, like many in Sussex, do not want them bearing the title of our County. Remove it.

Yes, remove it. Someone on here dubbed her "the Duchess of Overseas" and I think that would be perfect.

Weep, Klan whores! Harry and Meghan have been restored to their rightful place and are walking just behind Bald and his housewife!

That's right r293, Harry and Meghan's place is behind William and Kate. This is simply keeping with protocol, as protocol is always kept. Are you approving of protocol, now?

This a gay forum, r262 - saying that someone might come out as gay one day (though I don't really see on what basis) is not "judging".

No but it's kind of pathetic.

[293] They haven’t been restored. It’s the correct protocol. Even after all the nasty shit he has caused, he has a right to be at his grandmother’s funeral. He is there as a grandchild of the late Queen. Note the order, Queens children behind the coffin in order of age/seniority with their wife/husband, hence Andrew on his own. Next the grandchildren in order of seniority with their wives/husbands. This is The Duchess of Sussex’ rightful position in the BRF. Not the centre of attention or the leading star and for once shutting the fuck up.

Just saw pictures from the event. It was an obvious rebranding of the Royal Family, presenting the Wales' for the first time to foreign cash.

Of COURSE, Harry and Meghan weren't invited.

The future Queen of England was RADIANT!

[quote] Here’s How Harry & Meghan Found Out They Were ‘Uninvited’ to the Queen’s Pre-Funeral Reception

A total surprise. Prince Harry and Meghan Markle were uninvited to the Queen’s pre-funeral reception. The last-minute decision was something that they found out along with the public.

According to a report from the UK’s Telegraph, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex were uninvited to a reception held by King Charles II and Queen Consort Camilla, for world leaders and foreign royals. The outlet reported that only working British royals are welcome. However, according to Page Six, a royal source revealed that “Harry and Meghan actually got the invitation and no-one has actually told them they are uninvited.”

Another source told the outlet, “I’m told they only found out they were uninvited by reading press reports.”

"A source" - Meghan.

"Another source" - Omid.

How long after they're back in California until the leak whining really ramps up? Won't take until the end of the week, surely?

Meghan's on the phone to Gayle King even as we speak.

There was nothing in it for MM at the reception anyway as nobody present would dream of appearing on her podcast, nor could anyone provide her with voiceover work.

Charlie boy just can't help himself passing over the black guy. Yet Meghan and Harry were lying? 😂

I doubt that any of the royal staff is black. Why is Meghan allowed to humiliate the monarchy. Time to arrange another car accident.

Yet there are numerous instances of Charles with black and brown members of the public, not just the one strange clip you found.

R304, here's Charles stepping in to help a black woman when her own father was unavailable.

R307 OPTICS. He knew fools like you would lap it up.

Lap what up, r308? The fact that she had no friends and only one relative at her wedding?

[quote]R304], here's Charles stepping in to help a black woman when her own father was unavailable

Then she turned around and shit all over him and his family. Patterns repeat themselves.

I don’t blame Harry at all for wanting out, but the way he and Meghan justified it is gross and clearly they plan on continuing on with the same strategy.

Oh please - as if that means anything, when you have this many people clamoring for your attention at the same time. Just the thought of having to do this kind of thing is making me stressed out.

(R311 was meant for r304)

Ha the proof is posted and the Klan Grannies are scrambling to claim that this is not true. Ha!

Yet, yesterday Meghan sang "God save the King" at least twice.

I remember after The Dutchess made the comments about fat ass Trump he sharted back "I didn't know she was nasty". So she was right on all accounts.

And she looked fucking fabulous doing it r314! Best dressed. Diana Ross a la Mahogany

True R316.

I did think that the gloves were ill-fitting.

Ill-fitting how, r317? I think it tied everything together. Was it too long?

They should have been more snug on her hands and forearms, R318.

The gloves looked loose and a bit wrinkly on her.

She was actually singing “God save the Ring”, R314.

Personally, I think long gloves should fit like this.

And short gloves should fit like this.

This article spells it all out

We already know all that R323 but its grim to see it summarized in print.

Only dominatrices wear long black gloves. She must have been popular back in her yachting days.

So, r323, you do know that the person who wrote this lengthy diatribe against Meghan also linked, on her Twitter, to right wing propaganda describing Biden sleepy Joe; is a pro Brexiter; retweets people like Piers Morgan and leaders of the Conservative Party; and is an admirer of Trump? You DO know that the the person who wrote this article is a proud bigot? But I'm not surprised as this just keeps proving my point that racists and bigots will always be the ones against Meghan

Meghan is full of shit, r326. That's why millions of ordinary people who aren't racists or bigots are against her.

Gotta love the simple-minded attitude of "if you agree with somebody on one thing, it follows that you must agree with them on everything."

People on the right, the left, and in the center dislike whiners and liars... and Meghan is both.

grow up, r326. I come from a mixed family and can't stand Meghan.

[quote]You DO know that the the person who wrote this article is a proud bigot?

That's a very serious assertion, R326. What evidence or links can you provide to back it up? Sincere question. Calling someone a bigot when that person can be identified, that's a very serious accusation.

R330 go to the bitch's Twitter page

Thank you for your substantive reply.

R330, a bigot is someone who can't stand people with different views and opposes them solely on the grounds of what they think and who they are. Just like you, in other words.

By that definition, R333, just like us.

R328 ok, so you disagree with her on Biden, on Brexit and xenophobia, on conservative politics, on Trump, etc. but because she hates Meghan enough u write an article for a conservative rag against Meghan, she's not a bigot? Ha! She's more of a bigot than you're willing to admit, honey!

Kara Kennedy is definitely conservative. It matters (as everyone on here well knows) because the Meghan Markle hate is pushed by conservative tabloid and news outlets as part of their overall culture wars agenda.

Here's one of her far-right culture wars pieces against a liberal politician and "trans ideology" even though trans has nothing to do with the issue she's writing about.

This is why MM hater loons love that article, and have been spamming it on ALL the MM threads. It's rightwing trolling. It's ALWAYS rightwing trolling.

[quote]Kara Kennedy Retweeted | The Spectator World | @TheSpectator | Sep 19 | "Apparently, Sleepy Joe and his wife Jill were late, messing up the perfectly planned order of entrance to Westminster Abbey."

There's some other Spectator culture wars stuff, "Americans use last names for first names!" nonsense, and she's a huge fangirl for Rees-Mogg

Here's the totally not rightwing Kara Kennedy sympathizing with Trump for the raid

Harry and Meghan are assholes r338, regardless of anything Kara Kennedy says or doesn't say.

If you scroll back, she's got TONS of tweets about how much she hates Meghan, including RTs of small accounts insulting her. It stops at Sept 1st, probably because she had this article coming out and was hoping she could look unbiased.

You'll note all the MM hater loons call her "unbiased," all the Twitter MM hater loons say it's "unbiased," but she's not unbiased. It's a rightwing culture wars hit piece from some lady with a hard-on for far right politicians and who already hated Meghan because of it.

Ridiculous. I can't believe you stupid bitches spammed us with links to that piece of shit article. Grow up.

Awwww Klan Grannies get exposed again as they follow right wing bigoted figures who also have an extreme, irrational hatred of Meghan, but no it's not about race.

Boy a couple of blocks and the air clears, as well as eight of the last eleven replies.

But they're not the loons....

Is it just me or does that tweet read as flippant humor poking fun at Trump?

The Spectator which used to be edited by Boris Johnson, is a very snobbish High Tory outlet. Trump is too tacky to be anything but the object of contempt.

So Meghan is leaking to Gayle King again, is she? Yeah, best way to improve family relations is to get some big mouth gossip/wannabe journalist acting as your go-between.

R344 I thought you said Oprah and Gayle were distancing themselves from the Sussexes. Now Gayle is being fed info from Meghan? Wow, you are so obsessed with Meghan.

[quote] You DO know that the the person who wrote this article is a proud bigot?

The minute I read R323, I knew that person was a hard core racist/monarchist/right-winger.

Maybe Meghan can get a job on CBS This Morning? Like Jenna Bush has on Today Show? Meghan can be their Hollywood/Royal anchor, giving in-depth analyses of polo matches.

[quote] Maybe Meghan can get a job on CBS This Morning? Like Jenna Bush has on Today Show? Meghan can be their Hollywood/Royal anchor

That would be fun.

I would love to see her be really catty and bitchy towards the BRF, the way that their attack dogs from the Daily Fail are catty and bitchy towards her.

And I'd love to have her get to the bottom of that ugly tranny "Lady" Colin Campbell's gender. Is IT a man, woman, or beast?

I say the latter.

Meghan also needs to do investigative journalism to find out where "Lady" Colin got his/her/its "SONS" from, and how much they cost.

Any segment MeGain did would be all about HER and whatever slights she's endured that day. She's one giant, walking grievance.

The latest fuck up by Buckingham Palace:

[quote] Denmark’s Crown Princess Mary mistakenly invited to Queen Elizabeth’s funeral

The Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office has offered its “profound apologies” to the Danish royal family after inviting Crown Princess Mary to Queen Elizabeth’s funeral by mistake.

Official invites were sent to current heads of state, allowing each to bring one guest.

The Danish Royals confirmed Princess Mary's attendance on Sept13, writing: “HM The Queen and the Crown Prince Couple (will be) present at the State Funeral of Queen Elizabeth II.”

But Princess Mary, 50, was conspicuous by her absence at Westminster Abbey on Monday.

The Foreign Office on Tuesday admitted that a “regrettable error” had been made, which was blamed on the pressure of having to “send out many invitations within a short space of time”.

A spokesman said: “The FCDO has passed on their profound apologies to the Danish Royal Household through the Danish embassy.”

It came as the Foreign Office found itself at the heart of a mammoth last-minute operation, unprecedented in scale, with civil servants forced to coordinate the arrival in London of up to 500 heads of state and dignitaries.

More than 300 additional staff were seconded to the department, with the combination of security, protocol and logistics described as the most extensive piece of short-term planning it had faced since Winston Churchill's state funeral in 1965.

Aside from the practical elements of getting the foreign royals, prime ministers, presidents and governors-general to the capital, the Government also had to pull off the diplomatic masterstroke of keeping certain leaders at a suitable distance.

Ambassadors from North Korea, Nicaragua and Iran were invited, as well as South Korean president Yoon Suk-yeol and Isaac Herzog, the president of Israel, who recently suggested that Iran was leading the global “dark forces of hate”.

Current heads of state invited to the funeral were told they could bring one guest.

In the event, Queen Margrethe of Denmark, who ascended the throne on the death of her father, King Frederick IX, on January 14 1972, attended with her son, Crown Prince Frederik.

The pair were given front row seats in Westminster Abbey, directly opposite the King and Queen Consort.

Australian-born Princess Mary, who married Prince Frederik in 2004, met the late Queen on several occasions.

A Foreign Office source suggested that in the chaos of the moment, an error was made in suggesting that the guest of Queen Margrethe was also invited to bring a guest.

However, questions remain over why other royal families, including the Dutch, Spanish and Jordanians, had at least three guests each.

Denmark's Royal House told local news outlet BT: “There has been a regrettable error in the invitation from the British Foreign Office's protocol.

“It is thus only the Queen and the Crown Prince who, from the Danish side, will participate in Queen Elizabeth II's state funeral on Monday.”

Queen Margrethe, 82, enjoyed such a close relationship with the late Queen that she was one of few outside her immediate family who called her Lilibet.

She was among the first foreign royals to pay tribute to Her Majesty and struggled to hold back tears when she saw her coffin on Monday.

Both queens are great-great granddaughters of Queen Victoria and Margrethe said in a recent interview with ITV News that they shared great affection for one another.

“When I was growing up, I hoped I wouldn't be as young as that when my father died,” she said.

“It made an enormous impression on me. The fact that she was dedicating her life. I understood what that meant. This is for life. That is the whole point of my life. And I know she sees that too.”

I keep reading that Meghan and Harry stayed at Frogmore Cottage during the last two weeks. I thought they rented it out to Eugenie and her husband?

[quote] Royal Expert Claims Harry’s Seat Behind Charles at Queen’s Funeral Was an “Honor,” Not a “Snub”

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle’s place in the second row at the Queen’s funeral has caused speculation that the couple were snubbed—especially since Prince William and Kate Middleton were seated in the front row along with Zara Tindall and her husband Mike Tindall.

But royal historian Gareth Russell says that Harry and Meghan’s place directly behind the King was actually a “sign of favor,” not a snub.

“That’s the etiquette. If you know what the etiquette is, it actually is a place of honor,” he told Us Weekly. “To be the one behind the king is actually a sign of favor. What they seem to have done with this etiquette though is not prioritize [Prince William] or Harry.”

Harry and Meghan sat in the second row, next to Princess Beatrice and her husband Edoardo Mapelli Mozzi, and behind King Charles and Queen Consort Camilla (who were in the front row with Princess Anne, Princess Anne’s husband Sir Timothy Laurence, Prince Andrew, Prince Edward, and Prince Edward’s wife Sophie). Meanwhile, William and Kate were across the aisle in the first row with their kids plus Mike and Zara. Here’s a bird’s-eye view:

“The King’s major concern has been to give a place of honor to his sister and for the older roles to be relaxed,” Gareth explained. “So we saw for the first time a female member of the royal family marching behind the coffin. What we were seeing really was a time for the queen’s children rather than necessarily a focus on the grandchildren.”

“Giving Princess Anne her rightful place in the 21st century in monarchy [shows that] she really is her brother’s confidant,” he added. “She is hugely admired in Britain for her charitable work, and we’ve seen that she is someone who’s dealing with great heartbreak at her mother’s passing. But I don’t think there was necessarily a priority about William and Harry.”

I think Meghan is a few screws loose, but some of you all seriously are obsessed. Take a day off. You don't need to fixate on and rehash everything that's ever happened. Wait till she puts herself back in the news and discuss that.

Does Meg do anal?🧐

R345, Oprah has distanced herself from that interview. Gayle is still too dumb to understand.

R348 Lady C - like Meghan - is a white passing black person. They should understand each other.

[quote] R348 Lady C - like Meghan - is a white passing black person. They should understand each other.

Maybe that's why "Lady" (and I use that term loosely) Colin hates Meghan.

Meghan achieved what Colin could never - marrying a Prince of the British Royal Family.

In fact, that's why most of her haters, hate her.

Buckingham Palace has become increasingly inept and uncharacteristically stupid, since the Queen died.

What's going on?

Chuckie take the reigns!!

The gaffe over the Danish invitations was committed by the Foreign Office. I don't understand why some countries got more invitations. The Jordanians sent their crown prince in addition to the king and queen. Spain had their royal couple and the disgraced former king and Sophia. The Netherlands sent the king and queen and crown princess. Why do the other royal houses get only two spots?

The Queen is cousins with many European Royals. It was a family affair.

I’d be surprise if anyone is actually jealous of Megs marrying Hazbeen at this point.

He looks terrible, can’t make a decent living, even with all his connections and money. He is lacking big dick energy and looks pussy-whipped. That’s clit-shrinking for most women

And, I think the money is running out

R363 - Even if Charles were still giving them the approximately 2M to run their household and cover their expenses as he did when they were working royals, they'd still be running out of money. They have to pay a lot of people: PR, lawyers, household staff, gardeners, security, managers, accountants, Archwell staff, not to mention the mortgage, upkeep, property taxes, and utilities at Palicio Prefabricado. That's a mind- boggling amount of money.

Money's been running short at Mudslide Mansion for quite a while.

Of course it will run out, Harry and Meghan aren't making the British taxpayers pay for their expenses

Harry was cute in his late teens/early 20's. Now he has that pointy chin with corn nibblet teeth and the fuzzy hair to cover the bald spot plus being PWed is never a good look.

I was surprised the King and Queen of Jordan showed up with their son - presumably approved by the Foreign Office. Maybe to strengthen their line of succession as Queen Noor's son has been stirring shit. Juan Carlos and Sophia appear to have been an embarrassment - nobody wanted them.

[quote] He looks terrible, can’t make a decent living, even with all his connections and money. He is lacking big dick energy and looks pussy-whipped. That’s clit-shrinking for most women

Funny how women are always blathering on about being strong and independent, yet they still rely on MEN to provide the money to support them.

R369 I expect him to carry his weight. He doesn’t look like he even does that.

He’s a dud.

R370 my man ain't no dud in bed though. Look at those moves, those are the gyrations of a good fuck.

Oh, hell yes R371.

No doubt, Harry can throw down a mean fuck.

William looks like he would be terrible in bed.

I’m sure W & H are more than competent in bed.

r372 10 years ago that may have interested me but he is a turn off now.

What's happened to his hair over the years (besides disappearing)? As a youth is was straight with usual texture. Now it's like steel wool. I don't know anyone who's had that happen at such a young age. Later when folks go gray, the gray hairs can be coarser.

Gingers smell bad. They smell sour like milk that's gone off. They sweat a lot too. Occasionally there's a beautiful woman who's a redhead but it's very rare. And you can count on the fingers of one hand redheaded men who are attractive. They almost always have ferret faces. Harry sure does. Close-set, beady eyes, weird noses.

[quote] The Netherlands sent the king and queen and crown princess.

Crown Princess? Princess Beatrix accompanied her son and daughter-in-law. I doubt she was an add-on and was likely invited along with the WA and Maxima because Beatrix was Queen of the Netherlands for many years, and after the King of Norway was probably the closest of all foreign royals to both Elizabeth and Philip.

Juan Carlos and Sophia while no longer the King and Queen of Spain, are still recognized as monarchs and would account for their invitation and attendance. The former King and Queen of the Belgians were also invited, but health problems were an issue.

[quote] Juan Carlos and Sophia while no longer the King and Queen of Spain, are still recognized as monarchs and would account for their invitation and attendance. The former King and Queen of the Belgians were also invited, but health problems were an issue.

I thought that the Spanish King and his parents were invited because both Juan Carlos and King Felipe are related to Elizabeth?

Like first cousins, or something.

So it would make sense that they were both invited.

R378 Not first, cousins, no. Distant cousins to Elizabeth, yes to the second or third degree. Juan Carlos' wife, Sophia is the daughter of Prince Philip's first cousin. Sophia's mother was actually a British princess for about a year until the Titles Deprivation Act.

Philip was a prince of Greece and Denmark, so Charles is descended from the Danish royal family too. In fact, the Greeks still refer to their former royal family as the Glücksburgs.

The Norwegian King had the closest familiar link to the Queen through his grandmother Queen Maud who was born as Princess Maud of Wales , the daughter of Edward VII and Queen Alexandra

R375, the identical phenom happened to the hair of Rafael Nadal. It's ghastly.

[quote]The gaffe over the Danish invitations was committed by the Foreign Office.

The Foreign Office also sent out invitations to the state reception that this thread was originally about. I'd bet there were more mistaken invitations that we didn't hear about.

r375 I figured he teased up his hair to cover the balding