BREAKING: Catherine, the Princess of Wales Will Presumably Inherit the Queen's $110 Million Jewelry Collection!!!

Prince William's wife is expected to inherit the late monarch's pricey jewelry collection — set to be worth a whopping $110 million. The 300 personal pieces belong to the Queen and not the Crown, an important distinction.

In July, sources told RadarOnline.com, "She's been focusing on her beloved pieces and who deserves what.

"The whispers are that she's made some last-minute changes to her will that'll be a shocking surprise for her heirs."

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OP’s sentence should read “Megan Markle will get ‘nothing of value,’ for reasons that are well known to her!”

Well, if that little bitch ever wants to travel to India again and not have them spit in her food, she better give that one jewel back to them.

I really hope that is true. That is a real slap in the face to Megan. Pretty funny.

Told you one was hardcore!

It may be worth 110 million but she can't really sell any of the pieces.

Why would any moron think that Megham expected the Queen’s jewels?

Because this is the woman who had the brass neck to demand the Vladimir Tiara!

[Quote]Meghan Markle Will Get 'Nothing Of Value'

Ah, excuse me.

I think that was obvious given that they left the RF, but what about Camilla and Sophie? If they don’t get anything that would seem like a bigger slap in the face to me.

Cammie must be livid. But then again, Kate has three children who are in the line of succession, while Camilla does not.

Don't trust them royals

Well the Queen had 550 Leonardo da Vinci drawings, she could give each family member a score of them and still have many left over for the Royal Collection.

Camilla has access to all the crown jewels she doesn't need them. Besides, maybe the queen wanted to leave all her jewels in the family. Camilla has kids and grandkids and maybe she didn't want them to go to another family.

You know Camilla’s going to be making off with anything and everything that isn’t nailed down.

But did Kate finger his own daughters ass in public. No. Go check twitter. It's been proven as genuine footage. Prince Andrew is seen running his hand down her back then going into her crack. On camera. Ewwwwwwwwwwwww. But Meghan!!!!!!

You know George can't wait to prance around in those tiaras!

She can choke on the Kohinoor diamond, for all I care.

Kate will always be a rotten cunt.

Lady Louise Windsor was the Queen's favourite grandchild. It could go to her.

Catherine wouldn’t be able to pay the staggering inheritance tax on $100 million worth of jewelry.

The jewels will pass from sovereign (Elizabeth) to sovereign (Charles) and he will let Camilla and Catherine (and perhaps Anne and Sophie) borrow pieces. Any personal gifts from The Queen are likely to be smaller and of less consequence.

Meghan gets nothing, that’s probably true though.

Further, the Crown has legal tax exempt status, meaning her estate and beneficiaries will not be subject to income tax, capital gains tax, estate tax, or inheritance tax.

Ladies and gentlemen, Gary Janetti has entered the chat at R18.

[quote]In 2022 the Duchy of Cornwall's assets are worth a combined £1.7bn, and they made profits of around £47m between them.

If she has to pay an inheritance tax, I think, she can afford it now.

I don't believe this story. The Queen adored Harry, and anything given to Meghan will eventually go to Archie and Lilibet. It's not like there isn't plenty to go around.

IIRC only sovereign to sovereign bequests are not taxed. Everyone else might be another matter.

Estate of the Princess Margaret had to pay death duties.

Will Catherine now be called Birdy?

R26, which is why Linley was selling his tired bussy- along with the tacky auctions.

[quote]The Queen adored Harry, and anything given to Meghan will eventually go to Archie and Lilibet

Yet, she must have been terribly disappointed when he went in one of world's most watched shows to talk shit about his family because he wanted money in time when his grandfather was dying. Would have cooled the most fervent love.

I'm too lazy to look at old threads but what is the big deal with MM wanting to borrow the Vladimir Tiara for basically 1 day for her wedding.

R29 60 Minutes?

Does this mean that Camilla has to ask Catherine if she can borrow a tiara???

No, seriously, it makes no sense to leave he jewel vault to a woman who could still file for divorce and marry someone else. The bulk of the jewels would kid have to be left to Charles abd/or William, both to ensure continuity and to avoid taxes.

Supposedly a book of photos of tiaras was sent to Meghan and in it was a photo of the Greville emerald tiara that Eugenie intended to wear on her wedding. Meghan wanted the emeralds (Greville, NOT the Vladimir, which was never presented as an option) and blew a fit because she wanted it.

The ACTUAL tiaragate story was later revealed to be about the Queen Mary diadem which was actually selected for the ceremony. Meghan brought her hairdresser to the palace to try it on and demanded The Queen’s dresser to fetch the tiara from the vault. The loyal dresser explained that she was off duty, had left the palace, and would not be returning that day, and besides which ‘tiara hair rehearsals’ were never part of the deal. Meghan pouted and summoned Harry who blasted the dresser on the phone barking “what Meghan wants MEGHAN GETS” but The Queen’s dresser Angela still refused, and reported the incident to The Queen who replied “Meghan can’t get whatever she wants.”

For R30

r34 Thanks. I just read of how the Angela Kelly woman mentioned in the article is incredibly close to the Queen and would be allowed to stay at her grace-and-favour home near Windsor Castle following the monarch's death. I think the Harkles overplayed their hand with someone who had too much influence with HM.

Kate won't get all of it. The Queen would have left pieces to Anne and Camilla. There would be pieces for her niece too. And I'm sure all the granddaughters would get something.

This is tosh and shows a typical American misunderstanding. The jewels – those owned by the state, and those owned by the family – are inherited by the sovereign, for his wife, and the wife of the heir to the sovereign, to be worn in their working roles. Other members of the family occasionally BORROW them for state occasions. The family has always taken a very line in this. There was never a chance in hell of Meghan being given them, whether she'd been loved up or not. So the article is tripe.

This has nothing to do with Meghan OP and everything to do with Kate's future role. I also doubt she will personally own these items because the Queen knows that divorce is always an option now and the RF would never allow the Queen's personal jewels to leave the Windsor family. I'm sure use has been granted to Kate but not ownership in her own right, probably hold the jewels in a trust and made Kate the one that can use them but if she leaves or dies it passes to another family member (likely George for his future wife).

If this was about anything besides Kate's future role as Queen, then Lizz would have spread these around to the other females in the family who I'm sure she loved more as actual blood relatives. But it's not about that, it's just about Kate's station. OP is doing too much.

R37 still doesn't understand

[quote]The 300 personal pieces belong to the Queen and not the Crown, an important distinction.

I believe the Queen was certain in the heart of her heart that Catherine will continue to uphold and carry on with the business and duties of the BRF until the day she dies.

I'm glad for her. She will probably appreciate it more than others could. She could give me sone of it, if the amount is too much to handle. For Princess Catherine, I'd find a way to cope with some of the Queen's jewelry.

No way is ownership an entire jewelry collection being handed to Kate. And MM is completely irrelevant to disposition of this family swag. This is made up for the "Heathers" mean-girl stan factions to gobble down like candy corn.

Big fucking deal. This is no different than an employee getting to use the company car.

Should Kate get divorced from William or die, there’s a zero percent chance a single piece of the collection would go to anyone outside the Mountbatten-Windsor family.

Can Kate loan some of them to her mother?

Asking for a friend.

Kate looks stunning in the big pieces

[quote]Cammie must be livid. But then again, Kate has three children who are in the line of succession, while Camilla does not.

Camilla is never given credit for the old school loyalist she is. Even if it were a possibility that she would inherit some of the queen’s jewelry, I doubt she would ever expect it or even care if she hadn’t.

r45 I agree, once Camilla stepped into the role of Charles' wife she really hasn't made a step out of place. She might have actually been the right woman to be his spouse from the beginning. Though I think if they had gotten married in the 70s they'd be divorced today.

When can the media stop referring to Camilla as the Queen Consort? Is there really anyone that is going to confuse her with her mother. Obviously, if they are talking about King Charles showing up someone with the Queen, they don't mean his mother's dead body. I hope this cumbersome Queen Consort crap ends after they burry Liz.

The Queen was of very sound mind,...up to the end. Good.

Nonsense.

Meghan is getting a beautiful ring that Her Maj fished out of a box of Cracker Jacks.

Well...Meghan has Harry's jewels.

This is bunk, the Queen likely already made arrangements for her personal jewels so whomever she gave them to didn’t have to pay inheritance tax. And there are women in the family beyond Kate and Meghan, like Margaret’s daughter and Edward’s wife. Both of them were much closer to the Queen than Kate.

I wonder if Meghan is every upset that Harry gave away his mother's ring to William for Kate' proposal?

Highly unlikely . The jewelry is going to Charles who'll loan stuff to family members just like it was done until now .

True or not, these articles surely have Megs seething. She has failed at every level.

She married Harry, and had his kids, so that's TWO wins, r53.

r53 Meghan was not expecting the Queen's jewels, especially as the newest female member married into the family. Please stop with the outlandish takes.

I love the MEGHAN WILL GET NOTHING! pot-stirring nonsense. How about Margot Robbie, what will she get?

The British are clearly circling the drain with this Meghan insanity.

r55, people like r53 will never stop. They have a weird hatred of MM and will start, believe, and perpetuate any rumor that puts her in a bad light. It's disturbing.

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The only thing I'm curious about is whether the Queen had a written will like us commoners or if things passed are down to living Royals like based on tradition.

And none for Gretchen Wieners, bye!

That's why I don't trust this news, r11. Camilla and Sophie would almost certainly get something, possibly Anne and Lady Sophie Chatto as well. The entire thing being handed to Kate doesn't make much sense.

R57

Yes British royals including monarchs have wills; they just aren't made public.

Thus we won't know exact contents of Elizabeth II's last will and testament.

I’m sure Camilla will get a lovely diamond studded collar to wear at state occasions for her role as the Royal Rottweiler. MM is a conniving no class bitch who is a disgrace and out for whatever she can get. When Kate is queen, watch her teach MM a lesson on who is in charge here.

Is there a blackamoor brooch Meghan could have?

[quote]The entire thing being handed to Kate doesn't make much sense.

It's not handed to Kate. It's bequeated to the reigning monarch. i.e. Charles III. He will bequeath it in turn to William V. (Any transfer of items NOT from monarch to monarch incur death duties. )

Everyone entitled to wear some as part of *OFFICIAL* royal duties, takes loans of it.

This is what we’re dealing with…

She was a very bossy little girl..^^

r49 I carry them in my handbag. They are in my possession at all times

A hand-bag?

Charles- to lose one parent maybe regarded as a misfortune, to lose both, looks like carelessness.

The Queen knew that if she gave her personal collection to Cam or Charles, they would never loan them to Kate and others. Or they would be so grumpy and nagging that no one would bother to ask. But if Kate got the stuff, she would be more generous and thoughtful, and would share the treasure around.

Goddamn, Kate is not getting them. They’d go to William first. The jewels will not leave the bloodline. Who drafted this story, that retard Scooby?

If only Megs hadn't adopted that rescue beagle. She could've mothered the Royal Corgis, and turned the priceless jewels from their collars into a beautiful necklace to wear to the Montecito Farmer's Market.

I just don't trust radaronline with this.

Elizabeth II would have wanted the major pieces in her collection to go to the Crown (or to Charles and Camilla directly) so Camilla can wear them as Queen, not Catherine.

The Queen knew no one should be allowed to outshine whoever was the queen in terms of jewels--she was always clear there was a hierarchy about that.

Bullshit article

How is the late Queen’s corpse dressed? A simple shroud?

Meghan already has jewelry that were gifts from The Queen , along with pieces Harry inherited from Diana.

I don't believe this. I think people speculate and it ends up on the internet as fact. I won't believe anything until the reading of the will

There is no Reading of the Will you idiot It's sealed for 90 years. You'll be dead.

Why would the Queen leave it to Kate when she could leave it to blood relatives like her sister, granddaughters or nieces? Or as someone up thread stated to the Crown.

What sense does that make?

r64 do you know how many young girls in the history of the world have pretended to be royalty?

Just Meghan?

Was hoping against hope that the Klan Grannies of Datalounge would collectively stroke out from the events of this week.

Unlucky us.

I gave Meghan a tiara.

And to Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex, I bequeath my nursery space heater, as I heard hers wasn't working.

I wouldn't be surprised if Kate has a mysterious accident involving stairs.

I find the idea of the Queen leaving her jewelry to Kate bizarre. Sure, she might leave her a few token keepsakes, but not the whole thing.

I find it much more reasonable to think that she'd leave it all to William who could let Kate borrow any of it, but would keep control of them for Charlotte. After the Diana fiasco, keeping it in the family makes much more sense.

The Queen probably suspected that leaving it to Charles, he would gift it to Camilla anyway. She likely has her own estate plan that has nothing to do with Charles, as she has two children of her own. Leaving it to Charles would be essentially giving it away to Camilla's children.

I'm also surprised she wouldn't leave anything for Eugenie and Beatrice - I mean, they are legitimate daughters of her favorite son. Even being royal princesses, it must be sad to be the royal family's Meg from Family Guy.

As for Harry and Meg, she left them nothing...for reasons known to them.

I wonder Anne is fuming about this.

I just want to see Meghan curtesy to Kate.

It wouldn't have mattered who Harry married, Kate as the wife of the next King was always going to get the jewels. Just as George's wife will inherit the jewels when she becomes Queen.

R85, why would Anne fume over jewelry, when there are stables that need mucking out?

And I think the whole idea is bullshit anyway, the Queen would never leave the bulk of her personally owned jewelry to anyone but Charles or William. And if it was William than the message delivered is a big F.U. to Charles and Cam, but well. Cam gets the use of the jewels for as long as Charles lives no matter what. I wonder how long she's had her eye on the aquamarine parue? She loves big gaudy jewels in light cool colors...

At night Kate creeps out onto the Buckingham Palace balcony and cosplays Evita.

Rachel is going to get drunk and repeatedly smash a Vodka bottle into a framed portrait of Kate while wailing hysterically ala Twin Peaks.

R90, humor escapes you. Don't try again, dear.

[quote] Why would the Queen leave it to Kate when she could leave it to blood relatives like her sister,

Because her sister is DEAD! Lo, these twenty years!

R92 Does the Crown know the Queen’s sister is dead?

Highly unlikely bulk of HM Queen Elizabeth II's personal jewels are going to the Princess of Wales, or any one member of BRF. With death duties at or over 40% of assessed value few can afford the tax hit.

As others have said by law sovereign to sovereign transfers of wealth at death escape death duties. Thus is seems highly likely HM King Charles III will cop the lot or most, which is understandable.

Wiser bit of wealth planning would have been to give away bits over years as gifts, which the late monarch may have done.

Glimpse at estate of The Princess Margaret provides some insight.

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I think they’re really going to need a good forensic accountant to go over the Royal books.

I have some lovely brooches that I would be happy to bequeath to Meghan.

Sparkle is not just “any moron” R8.

Radar Online, OP? Seriously?

R96, it’s funny you said that. The New York Times just dropped an article examine Charles’ sketchy business practices while managing the Duchy of Cornwall.

Charles will die from exhaustion soon as he looks so worse for wear and so poorly now.

Unlikely. They would be subject to tax...a lot of tax. It will go to Charles and Kate can "borrow" pieces from time to time. Property that is passed from sovereign to sovereign is tax-free.

Meghan will inherit the earrings still attached to the cardboard.

Meghan will sue for her share of the jewelry, because......racism.

Meghan will inherit one's corgis' wet food and snacks. One hopes that she would enjoy them immensely.

A generous gift card to Claire's is awaiting Megs upon her return to the magical kingdom of Montecito.

I imagine an ironclad set of trust funds for Archie and Lilibet - and maybe Lilibet could get some jewelry when she turns 25 or something? But whatever goes to Harry/Meghan or their kids would forever be out of the family. Whatever goes to William/Catherine would then go to Charlotte (or the boys) and stay in the family.

The thing about Meghan is she'll use the money (or sell the jewelry for money) and use it to hurt the family. Don't give your enemies assets to use against you!

[quote]True or not, these articles surely have Megs seething. She has failed at every level.

Guess she didn't realize that exploiting and trashing the British royal family on American television wouldn't endear her to her grandmother-in-law. Now she and Harry are left with no royal titles and Lilibet as their child's name.

Stewardship of family assets and heirlooms has to be taught very early. Meghan has shown she has no respect for them: forcing Harry to sell Phillip's guns may have been symbolic of liberal American politics, but it showed that they cannot inherit anything of value.

Truly, the guns could be displayed and never used in a study in the style of another American upstart I'm sure she loves, the great Ralph Lauren. That seems like her style- using the real thing to mimic the reproduction.

I expect that maybe the granddaughters will each receive an item of jewellery, Sarah Chatto would also be included along with Sophie. The rest will stay with the crown/Charles.

R91 Your gaping asshole escapes you.

The famous tiaras seem to be only used these days for State Dinners and the yearly Diplomatic Reception.

Back during the 1950s, when the Royals would attend those charity movie premieres, the Queen, the Queen Mother, and Princess Margaret would not only each wear a tiara, but beautiful furs as well.

Obviously, the wearing of fur has fallen away, but consider that Kate did not wear a tiara recently to either the James Bond or Top Gun premieres.

In modern times wearing a tiara to a movie premiere looks over the top. I’m glad furs are out as well. So tacky.

Would like to see Meghan make an appearance on Pawn Stars. Trying to unload some cheap trinkets.

There is nothing shocking about this. QE wanted to keep these jewels in the main line of succession. They're jewels for a Queen, not a Duchess, and they weren't meant to be divided equally as a family inheritance when most of the Queen's great-grandchildren will marry commoners. Anne isn't the type to care about jewels and she wasn't leaving these treasures to be inherited by commoner offspring of her other children's children.

So that naturally left the heirs in Charles's line. Meghan will never be Queen, and Camilla will be Queen only briefly, 20 years tops, and she'll be as haggard as ever in those years. She's also more than a bit tainted as we all know. The crown jewels will suffice for her.

Catherine has decades to wear these jewels as Princess of Wales and eventually Queen herself, and she'll look good in them too.

Can actual breaking news include the word presumably in the headline?

Hate to burst your bubble. You bitter queens on Megan are over thinking it. Even if she was a perfect angel and never pulled Harry away from the Monarchy, she's still just the wife of the spare. They usually don't split up the wealth that way. It all goes in one lump sum to the next gen who will be king and queen, not evenly dispersed among all the spawn.

She'll get a nice Zircon.

The Queen knew that if Megan was given jewelry, before her body was cold in the ground a year she would be hawking “official” royal reproductions on QVC.

Well, if that little bitch ever wants to travel to India again and not have them spit in her food, she better give that one jewel back to them.

Pakistan, Iran, and Afghanistan would like a say in the matter.

I'm holding off judgement until Oh-Mad Scabies pipes up with "Meghan was deeply touched by the thoughtful bequest gifted to her by her late Majesty".

Why would that controlling histrionic bitch Meagan get anything?

Of course I presume that Elizbeth left the bulk of the collection to Charles and Will, possibly in a trust with restrictions on it to keep Camilla from walking off with the Greville collection.

But if Elizabeth had left a few big pieces to her favorite family members, when would we find out what Sophie or Catherine got? Announcement? Coronation ball?

Would Anne get any jewels? Does Anne even wear jewels?

She likes to wear military uniforms to state occasions, like she did yesterday. I love her for that.

Probably no announcement. Once they've been worn and photographed we'll know.

Charles was good friends with Joan Rivers and has a lot of Joan's line from QVC. Those jewels now belong personally to Camilla. She's doing okay.

I assumed that Anne got the horse stables in Kentucky and they’ll set up a nice warm stall for her to retire there?

Margaret's kids had to auction most of her jewels to pay taxes. Many were gifts from Queen Mary. Since the BRF have always been sketchy with these sorts of things, they might have been bought back by The Queen.

LMAO, if they belonged to Queen Mary, Queen Elizabeth II merely paid for items stolen (through coercion) decades earlier!

BTW, I've met Linley and he is an entitled, bitchy queen that spends money like water. He even lost his bespoke furniture company.

As others have aptly noted, the inheritance has as much to do with keeping heirlooms in the family (and tax liability) as much as anything but love the picture of Kate looking like "I'm a rich bitch!" while Meghan has this "whaaaaaa?" look on her face.

No one will ever know how much Harry was left by The Queen, but hopefully it is a trust that can't be touched by Meghan.

The Queen has a bunch of other grandchildren not to mention Princess Margaret's kids who were largely raised by her, to leave things to. No way is Meghan getting more than Zara, Peter, their kids, Lady Louise and James are getting. The Queen barely knew Meghan and what she knew about her was negative.

Why would she give anything to Meghan? She was not fond of her personally (as she was of her three granddaughters, her daughter, and Sophie Wessex), nor does Meghan serve an important constitutional position in the UK as do Catherine (as Princess of Wales) and Camilla (as the Queen).

I still think this story is bullshit, though. Most of the jewels will be given either to the Crown or to Charles and Camilla, with the expectation that they go next to William and Catherine.

Has anyone noticed how the DailyMail is darkening Meagan's features and skin color in their pictures to make her look really black?

R135 really? Usually Meghan does that herself with makeup to try to look black. But she always forgets to do her hands, neck and shoulders.

Are you sure it's not just the lighting in Buckingham Palace, Bob? I recall your impressing upon us about your private visit there.

No one cares about jewelry anymore because no one goes out anymore. They will sit in a vault forever until they get passed down to the next in line.

R138 - speaking from piss-poor people's perspectives.

Most of the Queen's jewels will be left to the Crown. Charles will let Camilla and Catherine wear them.

OK, it's Radar which is hardly reliable, but how does a presumption of an inheritance qualify as "BREAKING"? Secondly, many of the jewels owned by the Queen will go to consort to consort -- they're not (as much as I have read) left to an individual as many are all tied up under the rubric of "crown jewels" (as opposed to Crown Jewels which form part of the coronation regalia). I know that once an item is loaned to another person, the recipient receives it for life, though I think tiaras for weddings might be an exception. I will say that the Vladimir Tiara is certainly the one *I* would have asked for!

There's a great bit by "HMQ" in Alan Bennett's [italic]A Question of Attribution[/italic] when, informed that she owns a priceless collection of paintings she replies, "Doubly so. One can't put a price on them and even if one could one wouldn't be allowed to sell them."

Yes, Princess of Wales just wore the piece she inherited from the Queen. So stunning.

^. That was rather quick..

It's poet to see William and Catherine elevated to Prince & Princess of Wales and the attribution of wealth that comes with their new stature.

It's poetic because there's Meghan caught in London, with just enough clothes to get through the originally planned vanity-tour, probably phoning frantically to her Montecito minions to hire a private jet to get her entire wardrobe over asap, all under the unrelenting watchful eye of the British media; hahahaha... she can't even throw the crockery!

Meghan has got to be feeling scared as shit. She no doubt didn't realize the love the British public had for the Royal family. All her points of reference are Hollywood. All those heads of state heading to London for the funeral. Golly, the Queen's bigger than Meghan's idol Angelina Jolie! Who knew?

r144 again, what I meant to say before wandering off track was; its kind of poetic to have Meghan reluctantly planted in London to essentially witness, unflinchingly, her sister-in-law be elevated to the absolute zenith of global social stature, and unimaginable wealth.

Oh please, enough with this MM nonsense.

If it wants saying surely one or more members of BRF have firmly and politely told the Duchess of Sussex now is not the time, and this is not the place for any antics. This likely went for the Prince Henry as well, so they're sorted.

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are probably hugely aware if they blow this, that will be final nail in coffin. HM will send them packing back to USA and whatever bridges that remained will be burned.

Queens, the source of this 'scoop' is Radar Online.

That's not even on the level of 'my friend with a bike'.

Meghan's been leaking nonstop to Scobie doo. All his "sources" are Meghan Markle.

Fictional or factual, it's always fun to have a laugh at the Duchess of Montecito's expense.

hahahahahahahahahaha

We'll probably never know exactly who gets what. I'm pretty sure whenever a member of the Royal Family dies their will is sealed from the public for 50 to 100 years or more.

The Queen may have been a public figure but like many public figures she led a very discreet and private life behind closed doors.

Meghan markle the skank with the stank.

I know making up narratives is part of the fun of royal gossip on DL, but the facts speak for themselves. We can no longer link to the Daily Mail, but even they published photos of Charles waiting for his mother’s body to arrive at Buckingham Palace…with Harry and Meghan (and nobody else at that moment) standing right behind him.

Yes, the Sussexes have done a lot of damage these past few years, but rather than leaning into their various grievances, all parties are making an effort to come together…at least for the next few weeks. I know it’s not as entertaining as a lot of the fictional narratives, but it is what it is.

[quote]possibly in a trust with restrictions on it to keep Camilla from walking off with the Greville collection.

LOL she's the one you really need to watch out for. She will have direct access as queen. Guarantee some go missing after a while. Then magically appear when she's doing some public event, paparazzi calling it out then Charles backing her up to cover the crime.

trash you in-laws for profit on national TV and you get what you deserve Meghan

[quote] Yes, Princess of Wales just wore the piece she inherited from the Queen.

The report I read was that the Queen had given the pearls to Catherine.

Sounded like the gift was given while the Queen was still alive.

I doubt anyone has been raiding the jewelry vaults this early.

They sell tiaras at Walmart. Can't she just go and buy one of those?

Will Meghan get any of the late Queen's jewelry?

Camilla can fit the entire collection up her cunt. And extra room for the Greville collection up her arse.

No tiaras? Damn!

[quote]The Queen’s private jewellery collection is reported to hold 46 necklaces, 34 pairs of earrings, 15 rings, 14 watches, five pendants and 98 of her signature brooches.

Meghan can raid the Queen's tomb and nick her wedding ring and her pearl earrings, for all I care.

So, the Princess of Wales is getting the lion's share of the loot?

Good for her. She will wear it well.

Expert... she's the PR flack for a trade association. This is one occasion Lady C might even know more.

[quote]The Queen has a bunch of other grandchildren not to mention Princess Margaret's kids who were largely raised by her

The Queen raised Princess Margaret's kids? The Queen barely raised her own kids.

How do you figure the Queen raised Princess Margaret's kids? I've never heard this accusation before.

That's rubbish. Have read many times Princess Margaret was a good mother. The Queen was close to SAJ in particular and very good about including those two children in family events, particularly at Balmoral and on Britannia.

David and Sarah were born just after Andrew and Edward when the Queen was settled enough in her job to be a more hands on mother. The antics of Princess Margaret and Tony created enormous conflict, they fought constantly and their kids were frequently shipped off to the Queen and the Queen Mum. I had a Swiss colleague years ago who had been the au pair of the Queen's Chaplain at Windsor. In addition to telling me the prepubescent Andrew was always trying to stick his hands up her skirt, she said David and Sarah were always with Andrew and Edward and Sarah in particular was very sweet.

R165, what is the source for the claim that Margaret's kids were "frequently shipped off to the Queen and the Queen Mum?' And don't say your Swiss colleague the au pair. Not buying it.

[quote]How do you figure the Queen raised Princess Margaret's kids? I've never heard this accusation before.

I love that you referred to it as an accusation!

My former Swiss colleague Claire, au pair to the Queen's Chaplain. Take it up with her. She lives in Lausanne.

I'm sure the other girls in the immediate family (at least the blood relatives) will receive some pieces as well.

Also, I would think Kate would receive the pieces that the Queen wore for official functions, and the more historically important pieces.

[quote] In addition to telling me the prepubescent Andrew was always trying to stick his hands up her skirt, she said David and Sarah were always with Andrew and Edward and Sarah in particular was very sweet.

I love that bit of intel. Edward was sweet! I wanted to think well of him but reports have been iffy about his ill-fated filming career (and even worse, military endeavor). I love him and Sophie - and their kids. And if the boy is autistic, I wish they'd be open about it because it would advance the cause of neuro-atypical and disabled children and adults, in general.

BUT... the hand up the skirt by Andrew? That's "conduct disorder" Which often is seen in anti-social pd or sociopathy. And his arrogance and reported tantrums - he really is a lout. (and a gift to Meghan - for all her determined efforts, there's someone more despised in the family!)

[quote]How do you figure the Queen raised Princess Margaret's kids? I've never heard this accusation before.

It's definitely one of the milder ones.

Can she leave a bauble directly to Lilibet?

Isn't it odd Harry and Meghan don't parade their kids around to get attention? I'm assuming they're both cross-eyed which is why there are no full face photos. Archie sure was.

Please, please, stop referring to her as Kate Middleton.

Thank you r165, that's interesting.

MM only carried out one engagement with HM the Queen and the Queen gave her jewels then. IIRC it was MM's first official outing. What a traitor to encourage Dumbo to leave a situation with such a generous "Colonel in Chief" and jointly go on Oprah with all their BS (while Prince Philip was gravely ill in hospital at 99 years of age), and Dumbo to go on that Oprah mental health series AND Dax Shepard to criticize his own father and grandparents. Despicable. No doubt Archie and Lili will be raised to be ungrateful and entitled too. Anything given to H and M stands a good chance of only being appreciated for merching opportunities

The Queen gave Meghan the pearl and diamond earrings that she just wore, not "jewels". A pair of earrings.

She does have some nice things from Diana, many of which have not been worn yet at least in public..

Trust, she has lots of expensive jewelry from her boo.

"Trust, she has lots of expensive jewelry from her boo."

Then why does she never wear any jewels during public appearances, except her wedding set?

I wonder if Harry doesn't trust Megan to wear his mother's jewelry or if he already gave it to Cate to keep it safe?

[quote]R21 Meghan gets nothing, that’s probably true though.

That would be vindictive, tacky and shortsighted. M is still a mother of Big Liz’s grandchildren. Hopefully she made plans that recognizes all family members in an effort to avoid further public drama.

[quote]R51 I wonder if Meghan is every upset that Harry gave away his mother's ring to William for Kate's proposal?

If William continues to act like an asshole, Harry should ask for it back.

[Quote] r87 George's wife will inherit the jewels when she becomes Queen.

George’s [italic]wife??[/italic]

Really, I wouldn’t bet on that.

"M is still a mother of Big Liz’s grandchildren."

Great-grandchildren. And sometimes, when people are over 90, they are oddly uninterested in new great-grandchildren. By that time, it's just more screaming babies and the parents acting like nobody had ever reproduced before.

^^ Thank you. I forget how “young” Charles is. It’s visually like he’s the same generation as his mom (!) and I kind of slot them together.

Yes, great grandchildren.

[R166] Margaret and Tony dumping their kids with the Queen at Buckingham Palace has been well documented over the years. It has been mentioned in books and TV documentaries. Lady Anne Glenconner was a lifelong friend of Princess Margaret and served as her Lady In Waiting, she was also a Maid Of Honour at the queens coronation. She talks about it in her recent book and has discussed it many time over the years on TV.

Do your research before accusing people of making up stories.

Seriously, though really, why hasn't Megs been wearing Di's jewels???? Any theories?

The best revenge is how plain Megs looks in all these videos and photos next to Kate! Kate looks like the movie star Megs so desperately wanted to become!

Megs must be seriously regretting everything! The power dynamic has shifted so abruptly. She once had the chance to get close to the real power couple--Kate and Will. Now, they despise her so she will always be held at a distance. This will harm her status, her future status, her marriage, her kids' futures, and any future deals she thought she had lined up. She seriously misjudged. Game over.

Why did Megan even bother to marry Harry if she was going to blow all her chances?

Diana had a fabulous aquamarine and pearl bracelet to go with the ring. Meghan hasn't worn that yet.

I do think that Harry was a loving brother, and obviously wanted (or the advisors) the sapphire figuring William would have many more choices as a future King.

Hey R191 I don't understand that last sentence. What do you mean about the sapphire?

Diana's engagement ring, you idiot. It was Harry's.

But what does this mean: "I do think that Harry was a loving brother, and obviously wanted (or the advisors) the sapphire figuring William would have many more choices as a future King." ???????

That Harry exchanged the wedding ring for the. Cartier watch. Are you retarted?

More like 110 BILLION

R195 are you illiterate?

R190 because she had the wrong idea what royalty was all about . She saw it as a qick way to super celebrity, money and jewelry . Glittering parties with tiaras and high profile guests , jetting around the world in private jets . She knew she would never get there as an actress on a minor cable show . So she went in with the wrong ideas and Harry never corrected her because he was afraid she'd dump him like his previous girlfriends did once they turned 25 and realized they really didn't want to spend their lives babysitting a spoiled adult toddler .

Harry’s g/fs dumped him because none of them wanted to be part of the royal machine. They aren’t allowed to talk about it too openly but everyone knows being a royal is a hard life despite the luxury. I am sure Harry was forthright with Meghan about this and she probably told him they could stick around for a bit and then leave for America as soon as they had enough excuses for why sticking around was untenable.

I have this image of Meghan skulking around the royal family, keeping score of all slights real and imagined, as she built her case for the press. Harry’s family was going to be trashed by her publicly no matter what they did. And of course Harry had no problem with that which is shameful.

Intolerable not untenable

Is this Diana's "fabulous" aquamarine and pearl bracelet?

Aquamarines aren't a good color for Meg.

What is being noticed, commented upon and in some cases getting people fed up is constant hand holding of d and dss of Sussex. It's like the two cannot move unless they are holding hands together.

Even yesterday as RF prepared to enter Westminster behind the Queen's coffin there was Harry and Megan holding hands. Once inside they stopped (thank god), but still.

They do say Prince Harry is terrified that his duchess will bolt and not attend anything leaving him on his own. Weak as water!

I think the bracelet is gorgeous, I agree with r191. There's hardly anyone this would look bad on. Maybe if you had whatever the wrist version of "cankles" is.

THis is Radar. It is absurd to think with the Queen's personal collection that the Queen, who adored Sophie, and who was also very close to Zara Phillips would leave them nothing from her jewelry collection. Especially knowing that there are Crown jewels Catherine is entitled to. Of course she will leave something of importance to Catherine. But Radar is shit stirring and is always dependably inaccurate. I am so sick and tired of the tabloid need to pit Catherine and Meghan against one another and insist on stirring conflict where none exists. There are definitely points of conflict between brothers but to highlight and amplify them and add to it is disgusting to me. After five fucking years of Trump and a pandemic, I am so damned tired of this kind of shit. It's exhausting. The Right and the MAGAts thrive on that kind of shit. I do not thrive on grievances.

R106..for the win..Claire's LMAO

Any illusions (or delusions) British young women had about marrying into the Windsor family were cured after Diana, Princess of Wales fiasco. That sad tale of woe and misery confirmed what many insiders knew all along; the Windsor family is one of the most dysfunctional in Britain. Just look at the divorce rates within BRF for a star

Cate Middleton set her cap for the Prince William not long after clapping eyes upon him at university. The Prince's friends laughed up their sleeves at prospect of a daughter of an airline hostess becoming future queen, but Catherine Middleton was not put off.

As that relationship began to cloy it was made quite clear by sitting down both Prince William and Catherine Middleton that if they married it was for their lives. Having just been through it with Diana and Sarah, the Queen, Prince Charles and rest of BRF weren't going down that rabbit hole again.

This was part of the big reason the Prince William and Catherine Middleton had that big break-up. Love won in the end, so there you are.

All this being said Catherine Middleton knows failure of her marriage is not an option. She went after Prince William and having won that prize she damn well better make things work.

All this and more went for the Markle woman. In part because everyone knows Prince Harry is quite simply an emotional basket case. This is one of several reasons his previous girlfriends bolted when things became too heavy. Carrying on with PH was one thing, but to be saddled with him until death quite another. Again more so with history of the "Warring Waleses" failed marriage of too recent memory.

George will have a wife, you can bet on that. He will do his royal duty, no matter what.

R207 wife??????!!!??!!!!

All the gay kings had wives, no?

We'll see if he produces an heir or not!

[quote] super celebrity, money and jewelry . Glittering parties with tiaras and high profile guests , jetting around the world in private jets .

Doesn’t she have all that though? Plus a Montecito mansion with Oprah as a neighbor? She got everything she wanted, on her terms as far as I can tell. (She doesn’t care what Brits think or whether she’s popular there.)

Oprah sold that house. The Happy, handholdres won't be able to get any more pics of them rolling up to Oprah's gates anymore. Maybe they can fly by private jet to Hawaii & stage a pap fiesta there.

I thought Oprah sold her Montecito digs.

Trying to avoid the neighbors?

But per the article below, O was only there since 2021.

Okay, so now she has Jennifer Aniston for a neighbor instead of Oprah.

Oprah still has an incredible house in Montecito that she's had for years. This sale was not her main house.

Ellen has flipped several houses in Montecito. She left Portia still locked in an attic once.

So, will M make a play for Brad Pitt when he comes to visit Jen?

Could M take on Angie?

Who would you bet on?

F&F for the KlanGranny trolls

Oprah's house.

Harry and Meghan holding hands is an example of the physical and emotional freedom they now enjoy, a luxury the rest of the BRF has sold along with their souls

. They are husband and wife: close and loving.

Suck it, klan grannies. Your lives are as frigid and emotional a wasteland as the Windsors’. Meanwhile H&M live in wealthy luxury on the sunny and idyllic coast of California, in an enclave so beautiful and exclusive that Vivien Leigh and Laurence Olivier chose to marry there, while JFK & Jackie selected it for their honeymoon.

Enjoy your rain!

Is it OK if I take that crown as a little souvenir?

Great cunty choice of photographs in OP.

R220 See that’s the deal, Meghan never wanted to live in rainy dreary gray London. A California mansion is what she wanted and she got it. You have to give her credit for that. Yeah, the British press hates her but guess what? She doesn’t give a shit about that either.

Duchess of Sussex wanted to borrow something from MET museum's costume collection, they turned her down.

[quote] Are you retarted?

I never say this but OH DEAR.

R220

JFK and Jackie honeymooned in Acapulco.

Yes, R220, Meg got the California mansion she wanted... and if only she'd been able to earn enough money to afford it!

I think the odds are good that Charles will quietly float them 24/7 security and enough of a living allowance to keep the place - not enough to live like billionaires, but enough to keep them quiet and out of the British taxpayer's hair. Can you imagine being Charles this week, all the relatives coming at him with their hands out, and subtly threatening various embarrassment if he doesn't cough up, and Harry and Andrew having dinner together to discuss the gentle art of squeezing money out of Charles? No wonder the man looks deflated, and older than his years.

R220 makes it up as she goes along, R227.

It’s a result of the lobotomy.

JFK and Jackie took an extended honeymoon and stayed in Acapulco and Santa Barbara.

[quote]r227 JFK and Jackie honeymooned in Acapulco.

GOOGLE:

[italic]People also ask: Where did JFK go on his honeymoon?

The John F. Kennedys honeymooned at the San Ysidro Ranch in Santa Barbara, California.

[quote]r228 Can you imagine being Charles this week, all the relatives coming at him with their hands out…

And THE PENS!

Yes, after Acapulco.

So what? It’s still their honeymoon.

I already posted they took an extended honeymoon to both spots.

Couples who had stayed at, got married at or honeymooned at the San Ysidro Ranch:

Jack and Jackie Kennedy - infidelities

JLo and Marc Anthony - divorced

GOOP and Chris Martin - divorced

Sandra Bullock and Jesse James - divorced

Danny Moder and hussy Julia “Hello Vera” Roberts

Katherine Schwarzenegger and gold digging homophobe Chris Pratt

Plus Vivien Leigh and Laurence Olivier, as noted above.

[quote] [italic]They could not have picked a more idyllic venue—one of the prettiest parts of the state, overlooking the untarnished Pacific coastline, among gentle bluffs covered with ancient pines, where the sound of waves was broken only by the cries of gulls.

"Doesn’t she have all that though? "

MM has a house and a name, but she has no idea how to be a great lady.

Initial flurry of interest that welcomed Prince Harry and MM to USA has subsided. They will now need to keep the PR machine going if they are to remain relevant in a society that loses interest quickly otherwise.

Prince Harry's tittle-tattle book due for release should kick up things PR wise again, at cost of pretty much burning whatever bridges are left between the Duke of Sussex and his family (if we're to believe content).

Harry can make a LOT more money by using the book to leverage an allowance out of King Charles, than he'd ever make from the book itself.

Yes but he can't speak Meghan's "Truth".

R239

Believe word for that is "extortion".

Among royalty, R241, the word is "discussion".

[quote]R238 MM has a house and a name, but she has no idea how to be a great lady.

Does she want to be one? Why? It’s a very antiquated job title. For old people.

R220 just to confirm, you are saying that the Harkles have an amazingly beautiful and fulfilling life because they live in a town where Laurence Olivier and Vivienne Leigh honeymooned EIGHTY-TWO YEARS AGO??

That’s the best that you can do?

Darling, I’m embarrassed for you.

Montecito is beautiful. That why it's filled with so many wealthy people, as primary or secondary homes. Oprah's is magnificent.

"[R238] MM has a house and a name, but she has no idea how to be a great lady."

I don't think she wants to be a Great Lady, I think she wants to be a modern celebrity. And while I'm no fan of hers I don't fault her for that, why should she want to be a Great Lady in this day and age?

It's not like her husband is a gentleman, and he doesnt' want a Lady-with-a-capital-L for a wife.

MM has a house and a name, but she has no idea how to be happy.

And never will. (that's NPD for you)

r228 living in a fantasy land. Charles has been running the show for a couple of years as the Queen's health deteriorated. He had the financial things planned well in advance. Given his temper, I doubt anyone is bothering him about money. Allowances are likely still being paid and everyone knows where they stand with the King and his money. If they don't I'm sure his people sent them a memo.

No one, not Andrew or Harry, are plotting to blackmail the King. All of them are dependent on Charles in one way or another. You hurt him and you will be official cut off from the family. No one has asked for that or will go that route. Thinking such things would even happen is madness. Charles is a terror, no one is trying to go toe to toe with him. HIs siblings know how to handle him and his sons are smart enough to keep a healthy distance.

Please stop with your Tumblr tales.

Didn't Harry just pledge his loyalty to his father, in that statement he published where he spelled grannie 'granny'?

But he's too stupid to avoid going up against Charles, it appears. Oprah? Was that where he said Charles was 'trapped' and part of a series of genetic passing-down of misery or mental illness or whatever? That was a diss to both Charles and the Queen. WTF??

And now, the book will appear in November. I want it to. Penguin needs its payback. The only alternative is Charles paying off Penguin, but would that even be accepted? This is a hot time to go for it -- with the Queen's death in the news -- and I think Penguin know that. Next year, we won't give a shit and Harry and his Harridan. They'll be a faint memory like Johnny and Amber, and she'll be pulling Madonna-like stunts to try to get the attention back, and Harry will still be looking for his green crayon (copyright H G Tudor)

* Next year we won't give a shit ABOUT Harry and his Harridan.

Oh, please. You tired queens will be posting about Harry and Meghan until DL shuts down or you drop dead.

Why don't you go back to your Target vs Walmart and 'I need a new sofa' threads?

R239 you have hit the nail on the head! Harry may say to PaPa' "I wasn't myself. I was taking meds for depression and seeing a shrink and the book does not reflect how I feel now. I am so much better. And I realized how much I love and miss all of you and the good life we had and I want my kids to experience life with their cousins and their grandpapa and Uncle William and Aunt Catherine. Trouble is, if I kill the book I'll be in breach and I will lose millions. it will be very difficult. Can you help at all? " I'm sure Papa doesn't want any more shit right now. He wants to pull everyone together, make peace and deal with The Job. Image is everything. If Charles puts a foot wrong or the Crown is embroiled in too much controversy, he knows the Monarchy itself will be in r uins. (He's probably been moving his fortune around for years.) I think Harry can offer peace, reconciliation and support....if papa helps.

[quote]Laurence Olivier and Vivienne Leigh honeymooned

Not only that, they exchanged wedding vows at midnight there. And JFK and Jackie spent part of their honeymoon there.

But muliple large wildfires over the years, and a massive mudslide in January 2018 in which Oprah slid on her butt all the way down to the beach make the area less appealing.

Plus Ellen.

You’re not quite getting it, are you, R254?

I'm making fun of it.

PH and MM deal with Spotify is worth an estimated $25 million USD. This on top of the $15 million (if have that number correct), they got from Oprah first time around. How much more money do these two need that Prince Harry feels need to write a scorch the earth book?

Forgot link...

I thought they received nothing for the Oprah interview? In any case, they need big money to live the way they do. Security alone is a fortune, house maintenance and taxes, etc.

[quote] Please, please, stop referring to her as Kate Middleton.

Oh for God's sake, unclench.

People still referred to Diana as "Lady Di" years and years after she became Princess of Wales: she's referred to such in the Pet Shop Boys's "Dreaming of the Queen," which was released more than a decade after her wedding.

Stand corrected, they got zilch for the Oprah interview...

I thought so. Thanks.

[quote]Yeah, the British press hates her but guess what? She doesn’t give a shit about that either.

So, genius, all those lawsuits care just a hobby?

No R369 you unclench. If you’re going to get involved in threads about the British Royal Family, which is built around titles and styles, then maybe back off if it’s all too hard for you.

The Princess of Wales hasn’t been “Kate Middleton” for ten years. She was never “Duchess Kate” or “Princess Kate” or even “Princess Catherine”. She’s the Princess of Wales.

Why do you Americans always expect everything to be dumbed down to accommodate your obliviousness?

R389? Are you The Oracle?

[quote]R264 The Princess of Wales hasn’t been “Kate Middleton” for ten years. She was never “Duchess Kate” or “Princess Kate” or even “Princess Catherine”. She’s the Princess of Wales.

Why don’t we indulge her? Because as Americans we’re not boot lickers who bow and scrape as she changes titles like scarves. She’s Kate Middleton, first, last and always - sorry.

Just be grateful we discuss the dumb cunt at all.

The title of Princess of Wales should have been retired and never used again after Diana.

Link r17? You sound deeply disturbed.

You sound very clever, R266.

Doors to manual!

The Princess of Wales is THE GEM by herself. Stunning beauty!

Kate is 'gem in the monarchy's crown' as she channels Diana greeting crowds at Sandringham

Ms Hayter told 9Honey: "Her hand is very warm and her grip was very strong – her face is so radiant.

"She's so caring and her attitude toward other people... she just likes to make sure everyone is happy. She's absolutely gorgeous."

So witty, R270!

Honey, they've been laughing about it for years.

Trolly Dolly Spawn Made Good

And who, r273, is now laughing?

Having recently found out their children are now a prince and princess you'd think Prince Harry and the Markle woman would be grateful. But no, they obviously intend to wage a scorched earth campaign to have their sprogs get the HRH as well.

Harry should not publish any book. It could only hurt everyone.

Harry has a right to publicsh a book. But if he would just exercise some judgement and maturity it would go a long way. If he wrote about his growing up royal and said wonderfully positive, intimate and endearing things about Granny , The Queen, and about Grandpa, Phillip that would be enthusiastically received. If he wrote about his parents and the things they did together it would be well received. There is no need for a memoir to be negative and ugly.

We as an audience are always ready to learn more intimate details about the RF, and it would put them in a sympathetic light. It's possible. For instance. We all know Anne loves horses. Suppose we learned how she went to some posh ball then came home and stayed up all night, sleeping in the barn waiting for a foal to be born. Not that that would feature in Harry's story but it's an example of some intimate private thing no one knows.

Maybe Charles loves to cook. Maybe Diana used to go hiking with the boys. We have only snapshots, but we have no fully drawn portrait of the family from a member of the family. If we want scandal and negativity read the tabloids. Read the authors who relish that crap. but a personal memoir could be something nice. And it would sell. You may say no it won't, but it would.

When it comes to jewels, I CANNOT WAIT to see what the royal family wears to the coronation!

Right now, they have to be tasteful and restrained, only a few jewels and no colored stones, but they'll need to go hog wild at the coronation! Go full Queen Mary, bitches, pile on the necklaces and stomachers and medals!

And what WILL Camilla wear to go with the Kohinoor? The whole Greville collection?

“Thank God I’m not the type of woman who looks vulgar in diamonds”.

I hope Camilla makes it to the Coronation. BEcause she is a total nervous wreck right now.

[quote]Harry has a right to publicsh a book.

I couldn't have schaid it better myschelf!

R181b but the Royals aren't concerned about the little brown ones

[quote]I think Harry can offer peace, reconciliation and support....if papa helps.

As long as he is attached to Human Chaos Machine Markle - and honestly probably also if he's not attached to her - Harry can offer no such thing.

I agree R281, she doesn’t look right. I know she broke her toe or something, but her face looks like she’s in turmoil. I don’t think she’s eating because her face looks bony now, I realize she’s a smoker and all but it seems the flush of outdoorsy/country aristo health that she always had is gone.

Well of course Camilla is stressed right now, what with becoming queen and needing to do more Charles-minding than ever, he crush of events on, and she's in pain from wearing fucking high heels with a broken toe. Of course she's going to look strained.

I hope she gets her normal robustness back, but nothing is guaranteed at 75.

Its a strain at 75 to have to keep calm & carry on in public. Especially when any misstep or remark will be telegraphed by the Markles & Co.

How soon till the NYT starts slut shaming Camilla, the real murderer of Precious Di? Any bets

I think Camilla is stuck. She was in love with her husband and he was fucking around on her. So to get even, she started fucking Charles again. He's got to bore her silly. She was stuck though because he was obsessed with her. I bet she never wanted to marry him.

I do wonder about that, R288. She is very much a mother/babysitter figure to him and Charles gives every sign of being extremely high maintenance. I wonder the same thing about the Sussexes, tbh. Markle is a piece of work but Harry seems as thin-skinned and in need of constant careful tending as his dad. He also seems a lot less interesting in terms of conversational skills, interests etc. than Charles. Meg is probably bored rigid.

I think partnership, duty and service, mixed with a healthy sense of humour, are probably the key ingredients to what drives her.

Partnership is important. Having someone to share the extraordinary experiences that the King has had over the last almost two decades has, I am sure, made the role much more enjoyable. I often saw how humour would help them get through long days — this might just be sharing a joke in a snatched moment between engagements or making the fifth photo opportunity of the day a little more jolly simply because they were doing it together. Then, at the end of the day, the chance to discuss what had happened on the way home also helped them to decompress. This modus operandi will without doubt help the King to discharge his duties in this next chapter.

In many ways the King and Queen Consort are like so many other happily married couples. They go for walks with their rescue dogs, they share a love of reading and classical music, and they spend as much time with their children and grandchildren as they can. But unlike others of a similar age, the King and Queen Consort are about to enter a new chapter of their public life at a time when many of us will have been retired for several years.

Nevertheless, in this next phase it will be the Queen Consort’s loyal service, her love for her husband and an innate understanding of what it means to serve the institution that will carry her on. It could perhaps even see her emerge with the respect and affection from the nation that, after so many years, she thoroughly deserves.

LOL!!!!!!! What Horsemilla Cuntwhore the hideous deserves is to be removed from public site sooner than later, so that the public is not subjected to the ghastly site of that creature!

Bravo r290, well said.

Put the pipe down R291.

Camilla looks like she's absolutely horrified to be Queen. Much rather be living in the country and being left alone by the media. Living with Charles has to be annoying as shit. Andrew Parker-Bowles looked like a lot more fun. He married again after their divorce but his second wife passed away a few years ago.

R290, (Queen) MARY!

Has Fergie been seen anywhere near the mourners?

Is Charles keeping his beloved Highgrove property or does that now belong to William?

HIghgrove is owned by the Duchy of Cornwall, as such is the Prince of Wales, Duke of Cornwall and Cambridge already. In time Prince George, and future male heirs who become dukes of Cornwall will inherit the place.

Remains to be seen where HM will live as an official residence. Currently the king and queen are remaining at Clarence House while renovations are underway at BP. Even when latter is complete odds are HM won't make Buckingham Palace his home, more like a room above shop so to speak.

My guess is the king will work out something with Prince of Wales to pay rent and remain at Highgrove. HM truly loves the place and has put so much into it, cannot imagine him leaving.

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Do we have any pictures of the interiors at Highgrove?

[quote]r289 Camilla is very much a mother/babysitter figure to him and Charles gives every sign of being extremely high maintenance.

For all the (misguided) comparisons between Meghan Markle and That Simpson Woman… does’t the above sound very much like the strained dynamic between Wallis + Edward?

Not much, apparently. Tons of interior shots of say Clarence House and other properties.

Another...

[quote]R297 Remains to be seen where HM will live as an official residence.

H+M currently reside in Montecito. Rumor has it Charles is arranging Clarence House for them, though.

R296

No, don't believe Sarah Ferguson has been on walkabout or anywhere near mourners.

SF attended funerals of both Diana, Princess of Wales. and The Queen Mother, and will do so again for Elizabeth II, but otherwise she is sidelined. Other than being with PA and her daughters at Balmoral as seen in news media pictures observing floral tributes, Sarah, the Duchess of York has no role or anything else to do.

For those wondering HM did right, proper and usual thing by having Duchy of Cornwall buy Highgrove. As such property is part of a trust which is treated quite differently for estate tax purposes for a start.

American equal not a trust would be LLC or some other form of corporation ownership. Ivana Trump's UES home was owned by a corporation, not the lady herself.

She and Andrw toured the flowers at Windsor yesterday.

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BP won't be complete until 2027 for $500 million, including a new roof. Other than ceremonial occasions, I can't image grouchy Charles wanting to deal with that. A man that travels wirh his entire bedroom? He's staying put at Clarence House.

-Has Fergie been seen anywhere near the mourners? (Quote)

No R296 they couldn't get her away from the buffet table and the Hennessy

He will live at Clarence House and work in offices at Buckingham Palace and hoold receptions there for state occasions. His country retreat will remain at Highgrove. I think we can look forward to William inheriting the use of the Sandringham Estate. Period. Anmer Hall is on the estate. So maybe they will just give it to his charge. Right now, Sophie and Edward live on the Windsor Great Estate at Bagshot. or WTF it's called. I think they will move. Now there was also talk about William being asked to just move his household into Windsor Castle. I don't know if that's true or if he is even willing to do that. It may be he will take over St. James Palace in London, and continue using Anmer Hall as a retreat. It was a gift to him from The Queen. And if Edward is elevated to Duke of Edinburgh will he change the home he has lived in for 20 years? Andrew is still ensconced on the Windsor Estate. I don't think either William or Edward wants to be anywhere near him.

^ I never heard so much bosh.

Charles is not giving up Sandringham, Or Balmoral. It's his right as King and owner

R312 I'm not saying he would truly give it up, but I am saying maybe he will delegate it to another working Royal.

Edward has a150 year lease on Bagshot. Why would they move?

This is reportedly Edward's house in Windsor. Nice! Huge place, but much more livable than a palace or castle.

Meghan will be selling Christmas Cards door-to-door this year.

It should have gone to Princess Anne, not Kate the Useless.

[quote]Edward has a 150 year lease on Bagshot.

And after that, what?

If Charles is going to remain at Clarence House, why did he give notice to the staff there? Is he planning to sweep the floors himself and learn how to operate a tea bag?

They sure move around a lot.

R319, it has nothing to do with cleaning. If Charles had 31 private secretaries, just imagine TQ. I'm sure he is obligated to much of her staff.

R139, I am piss pour by their standards. But I don't think they aristocracy dies the whole formal jewel super formal functions as they used to. I think it is frowned upon by the class police who don't want that kind of wealth rubbed in their faces. Feels like a more casual royal era not a wear a 3 million dollar tiara to a ball thing.

"...the aristocracy does the ..."

-sorry, sipping heavily tonight

Kate won’t know what to do with the brooches!

She'll know. The pearl and diamond brooch was the size of a breastplate.

R210 I think turkey basters are available in England.

A picture that convey beauty and resplendence. Another piece inherited from the Queen. Stunning!

She's so very regal. 👑

[quote]r 327 Another piece inherited from the Queen. Stunning!

Ick. That particular diamond clasp worn at the front is very Dynasty (or something) in design. I’m not a fan of this one : (‘

That Queen had so much shit she could erase the debt of several countries! Article I read two days ago said Queen's jewelry will be distributed amonth her family members.

She has grown into a handsome woman.

[quote]Edward has a 150 year lease on Bagshot.

[quote]And after that, what?

He'll get his security deposit back, Rose!

Charlotte looked so pretty with the hat and the horseshoe broche, I’ve read it was a gift of the Queen.

Charlotte and George were very well behaved today. They sat through two religious ceremonies, and all the marching and the slow cars enough to make you puke. When I was little I got car sick all the time. My stomach got queasy just looking at them.

R333: My Little Diamonds.

Ya gotta start some place.

Diamonds in the daytime are vulgar.

I can’t stop going back to that awful diamond clasp @ r327

What era is that? Edwardian?

^^ I see it was crafted in the 1970s or 80s. No wonder I got such a dated, DYNASTY vibe from it, at first.

[quote][italic] The necklace was made from pearls which “were reportedly a gift from the Japanese government, possibly acquired during the 1970s, when she made a state visit to that nation,” according to The Court Jeweller.

This is clearly a BS article. I don’t doubt that The new Princess of Wales and Princess Charlotte will get some choice items . But Queen Camilla, Princess Anne, The Countess of Wessex, grandchildren and great grandchildren, Lady Sarah Chatto, and others are sure to benefit as well.

AND Meghan, r339. She and Liz had a special bond.

[quote] Diamonds in the daytime are vulgar.

Exceptions were made for engagement rings and ear studs. A diamond clasp at the back for pearl necklaces worn in daytime was also considered appropriate. Royalty has given themselves permission to be vulgar for over a hundred years by wearing diamonds in brooches in daytime.

R337 The Queen wore the necklace only a few times. She lent it to Anne and Diana numerous times. Kate has probably worn it the most.

Much too flashy for a funeral, and the style is fug.

Why didn't anybody ask me if I wanted any of the jewels? Or how I felt about it?

[quote] . A diamond clasp at the back for pearl necklaces worn in daytime was also considered appropriate.

Phew! I'd hate to think I had been inappropriate all this time. Bu then I had a clued-in mother. I love my pearls.

Catherine must have been driven to distraction yesterday protecting her children from the Succubus at the funerals. Thank goodness she had help from Camilla and Sophie Wessex.

How did Camilla break her h̶o̶o̶f̶ toe?

The death stare from Sophie tellls a thousand, nasty words.

Sophie looks like a weathered cunt.

It’s like looking in a mirror isn’t it R349?

The Queen Mum finally gave a ton of jewels back to the Queen when she died but she hung on to them until then. The old girl also had a fabulous personal jewel collection, much of that went to Charles and is now worn by Camz. That big emerald cut engagement ring used to be the Queen Mum's.

Kate has most of Diana's stuff, at least the pieces that matter. Obviously she has the famous engagement ring. The lover's knot tiara (a wedding gift from the Queen) that became so iconic on Diana is now worn by Kate, along with some other pieces. Those earrings she wore to the funeral on Monday were Diana's. I don't know about the rest of Diana's personal collection. Dipshit gave the wife Diana's watch and a bracelet I recognise as well as that honking big aquamarine ring. I don't know if the brothers have ever ironed that one out. I'm sure Dipshit would rather have the money now and William's certainly got that.

The Dipshit and his wife tried to blackmail the royal family into giving them HALF of the money from Prince of Wales' inheritance, the revenues (and responsibilities for) the Duchy of Cornwall. I'm surprised William doesn't just punch him in the face whenever he sees him. As for the Dipshit's wife, she's so tacky. She still wears the Cartier slave bracelet that her ex-husband Trevor gave her for their wedding. Every day. Classy girl, just like it said on her license plate.

The temperature must've been 100 degrees below zero in the Rolls Royce that took Sophie and Meghan from BP to the Abbey.

Somebody had the bite the bullet and deal with 'that woman.' I'm glad Sophie was up to it. Catherine should never have to deal with that monster again. Or if she must be in the same space, there should be people shielding her.

Better still, get a fucking divorce, Harry, even if not to save yourself - to save your ex-family.

Sophie deserves the Duchess of Edinburgh title alone for dealing with (and likely icing) Megz for the funeral .

Oh please. Wessex and Sussex are two of a kind.

Sophie is an even worse grifter.

Hunny Charles and Anne know exactly what the Queen had. Why do you think he and Camilla ran up to Balmoral "to rest and grive." They will decide who gets what.

Sophie’s an aged, peroxided yacht girl who posed topless for the world to gape at.

Who the hell is she to judge anyone?

Link please ^

The peroxide bottle, at least, I trust we can all accept as [italic]de rigueur?

Is that Prince Andrew lifting her shirt too? So grainy and long ago no one cares. Not even Sophie.

[quote]R361 So grainy and long ago no one cares. Not even Sophie.

Now of course if that pic was of Meg, the klan grannies would be up in arms forever. But because it’s Sophie baring her breasts on a yacht - no problem.

(Oh, and of course there’s no racism at play here. No one would ever think that. So remember, just because it’s okay for a white girl to do this, that in no way implies she has any kind of race advantage. Don’t even think it!)

I figured Sophie was lez, being married to Edward. She seems manly.

Well, those brazenly flaunted TITS aren’t manly!

You know, Sophie and the Queen allegedly "became close" after Sophie's mother died of cancer. But then she tried to insinuate herself between Anne and Queen Elizabeth and Anne isn't particularly insecure on that score so she sort of let it g o, but She's keepoing a real close eye on Sophie.

R366 sure she is, Meghan.

Oh ffs. I am sure there was plenty of QEII to go around. No need for menopausal women to fight over mama.

The Duke of Kent's wife is also named Katharine. I think she was unable to attend the services. She is 89. It was also moving to see the old Duke of Kent shuffling along. He will be 87 in a couple of weeks.

They split up a long time ago. Never divorced though. Their daughter was easily the most beautiful woman in the royal family. Don't know what she looks like now though - she must be 60 now.

This one, r370?

She was beautiful. Wonder what she looks like now. She must have been at the Queen's funeral.

She was. She's pushing one side of sixty. She looked great... for sixty.

One thing about the royal women, if they get work done, it isn't much. I'm inclined to vote none at all with most of them. Anne, Camilla, Sophie, even Kate is starting to do some in her forties early sagging.

Here’s Lady Helen Taylor and her son - she’s looking good. And no cosmetic surgery, I suspect.

She also has great style - she was Armani’s muse for ten years.

Another article and pics.

Taylor looks like a boring Celt. Not beautiful in any way but cute in her young days and attractive as a well preserved older woman.

Most truly English looking women are boring - same with the Irish. They rarely age very well. The beauties usually have some other genes in the mix like Italian or Greek or Spanish.

And you, of course, R376, have a face that launched a thousand ships, right?

I would classify Helen Taylor as attractive rather than beautiful, but maybe she is tall and has model proportions. And for a member of the BRF she is stunning since she resembles none of them.

Her mother the Duchess of Kent was beautiful when young. Luckily Helen got her looks from her ma and not her pa who looks like a bird of prey.

I've always thought praying mantis myself.

Reminds me of Goldie Hawn.

[quote]R366 You know, Sophie and the Queen allegedly "became close" after Sophie's mother died of cancer

Is this code for pussy lapping?

Sophie's got quite big tits.

The Duke of Kent looks like a newborn baby bird with no feathers, gross. I hope now with the reign of King Charles we will see the boring Kent and Gloucester families retired away.

This isn’t a criticism, but there’s a channel on YouTube that shows clips of the royals at various events, and one was a meet-and-greet William and Kate had with Windsor Castle staffers who supported their walk about during the mourning period.

One thing I noticed was that Kate looked completely exhausted and uninterested in one more public event. She tried to maintain a smile and engage in small talk, but it was the first time I ever saw seeming unengaged and dismissive (in the beginning of the clip William says something to her and she reacts like she wasn’t in the mood for any BS).

The BRF has lost 5 senior royals to carry out engagements in less than 2 years (Elizabeth, Philip, Andrew, Harry, Meghan). Even though there’s been talk about Charles wanting a slimmed down roster of working royals, all the load can’t be put on William and Kate.

I think sidelining the York sisters will be rethought, and Peter and Zara Phillips will be offered titles so they can help feel the gap as well.

Why would Peter Phillips and Zara Tindall want to be ennobled and start working for the royal family when they are both independently wealthy through their own efforts? The King will never give them titles while talking about slimming down the royal family. And they’d be taking a massive pay cut if they became reimbursed for expenses by Uncle Charles. Beatrice and Eugenie are both married with young children - why would they want to do it? It’s not a life of untold riches unless you’re the monarch or the heir - you get a grace & favour residence (all the above have their own houses) and handouts from the monarch. Per diem - wow!

It’s a nice idea R385 but it’s not founded in reality.

[quote]hold the jewels in a trust and made Kate the one that can use them but if she leaves or dies it passes to another family member (likely George for his future wife).

For his wife...yeah, sure.

R385 Could you post the link to the video?

Here you go, R388.

[QUOTE] Kate has most of Diana's stuff, at least the pieces that matter. Obviously she has the famous engagement ring. The lover's knot tiara (a wedding gift from the Queen) that became so iconic on Diana is now worn by Kate, along with some other pieces. Those earrings she wore to the funeral on Monday were Diana's.

Just a little correction: The Lover’s Knot Tiara wasn’t given to Diana. It was loaned to her. Just as it’s been loaned to Kate.

The earrings worn by Kate at the funeral were the Queen’s, not Diana’s. Diana owned a similar pair, called the Collingwood earrings, but the ones Kate wore were a gift to Elizabeth from the ruler of Bahrain.

They should bring good looking young men like James , the Viscount Severn , and Samuel and Arthur Chatto into the fold as working royals. People want to see fresh, young things to feel uplifted.

Will's bulge is always distracting.

[quote]Sophie’s an aged, peroxided yacht girl who posed topless for the world to gape at. Who the hell is she to judge anyone?

I'm one of those who doesn't care that Sophie gave an importune interview early in her royal career, or was seen topless, or that Fergie had her toes sucked or that Kate was seen topless or any of it.

But that's also why I'm irritated at the Meghan hate, which seems to come from people who have excused everything else, including Andrew's Epstein problem. It's also why I was particularly irritated at Sophie's dismissive attitude about Meghan in a 2020 interview, and the idea that she's enraged by Meghan's mere presence these days. I mean, Sophie was treated so badly that Edward begged the tabloids to back off, you'd think she would understand, but apparently not.

r361, it was a DJ named Chris Tarrant. that she was dating at the time. The pictures were something like 12 years old already when the tabloids published them.

Sophie was on the path to becoming another Fergie until she got put in her place early on in her relationship.

By “people” you mean “you”, R391?

Who is the man with Sophie in r360?

Someone tell r397 to read r394.

[quote]I'm one of those who doesn't care that Sophie gave an importune interview early in her royal career, or was seen topless, or that Fergie had her toes sucked or that Kate was seen topless or any of it.

[quote]But that's also why I'm irritated at the Meghan hate, which seems to come from people who have excused everything else

Those incidents are all 'one and done'. Lessons were learned.

In the Harkles case, and specifically Meghan's case, its just an ongoing metastatic problem with malicious intent.

Okay. Will he be getting any of that jewelry. I never saw this - he is cute and will be a handful.

Fergie was an embarrassment during, and after her marriage.

[quote]Fergie was an embarrassment during, and after her marriage.

That's right; and as such she was removed from representing TRF in any manner. One and Done.

All the failures are the ones who try to make it about themselves instead of the job.

"But that's also why I'm irritated at the Meghan hate, which seems to come from people who have excused everything else"

"Those incidents are all 'one and done'. Lessons were learned."

What's so massively entertaining about the Harkles is that they seem incapable of learning from their mistakes. I don't hate them, well, maybe I despise Harry for being a spoiled idiot who expects the spoiling ton continue even though he's "on his own", mainly I'm entertained by the idiocy-fueled trainwreck.

PS: Meghan had her topless photo release, as with the other ladies, it generated a week's interest and that was that. Frankly, nobody is that interested in these ladies' boobs.

As for slimming down the monarchy, I think Charles has the right idea. Have a core group representing the monarchy, people that the public knows well and has known all their lives. Ann, she's a grump but a good old stick, Ed and Sophie have put in their time haven't they, and aren't Will and Katie's kids coming along beautifully? And did you see her dress yesterday? Everyone said last week that Queen Elizabeth was see as the Nation's Gran, or the Commonwealth's Granny, and by maintaining a comparatively small, well-known group, Charles can maintain the illusion that the Royals are part of everyone's family.

I'm not British, but I don't think the various sisters, cousins, aunts, Glousters, and Kents, inspire that sort of feeling.

I don't know how stories like this gain traction. Most of the Queen's collection will go directly to Charles, as its steward. She may have left a few pieces personally to Kate, Sophie, Anne, Bea, Eugenie, Lady Louise, Zara, and perhaps some great-granddaughters, but the idea that Kate would "inherit" so much of it isn't the way this stuff is done. The heir gets the lot and then loans or doles it out. There is no way that the Queen left Kate, personally, in her own right, the bulk of her personal collection.

Kate and Camilla will certainly be wearing a great deal of it.

But Kate left the huge bulk of it? Bypassing the blood princesses, Lady Louise, Sarah Chatto, Sophie . . .

This is a bullshit story.

^Not to mention the Queen's only daughter, Anne, The Princess Royal.

Anne has a daughter and several granddaughters. It's not feasible the Queen would leave so much to the married in, future Queen or not, and skip over Anne and her children and grandchildren.

As a future Queen, Kate will be able to wear lots of things from the personal collection, and, as they sat in the fullness of time, eventually wear what Camilla is wearing, including things left by the Queen Mother from the Greville bequest.

I'd like to see Kate in Queen Alexandra's Fringe Tiara at the coronation, as I'm quite sick of seeing her in the Cambridge Lover's knot one.

Needless to say, Meghan Markle and Lilibet Diana will get nothing. Meghan can go around parading those tiny pearl and diamond earrings for the rest of her life.

I just want to live long enough to see Kate emerge in the Vladimir emerald tiara so we can hear Meghan screaming all the way to Jupiter.

That's assuming they ever let the Vladimir out of the box again.

That's all right, the Cambridge emeralds will do for the coronation.

R407, I think Anne would rather have the queens horses than any damn jewelry!

And is this necklace "The Cambridge Emeralds", or does that include the Vladimir Tiara tricked out with emeralds and other jewels? Because the Princess of Wales is NOT wearing the Vladimir Tiara to Charles's coronation, neither Katherine nor Camilla will wear any big jewels that were Queen Elizabeth's personal favorites. That would be tasteless on many levels.

Queen Mary and Queen Alexandra immediately wore their predecessors big pieces after their wearer died.

Queen Mary and Queen Alexandra weren't live-streaming the coronation to every bitch in the world who has internet access.

R407 I’ll leave it to the Tiara Troll to correct me but I’m pretty sure that tiaras aren’t worn to the Coronation - coronets are.

[quote]but if she leaves or dies it passes to another family member (likely George for his future wife).

LOL

If R411 is correct, this is the coronet the Princess of Wales will have to wear to the coronation.

Well, maybe she'll get to wear a proper tiara to the afterparty, to make up for having to wear this ugly thing while the whole planet is watching Camilla have the Koohinoor planted on her head!

Tiaras are worn throughout as they are jewellery. Coronets are donned after the crowning. Women derive their right to wear a coronet through their husband in most cases. If you look at the picture from the royal box you can just make out Princess Margaret's tiara in front of the coronet. QM wears the circlet from her own crown. As a crowned Queen she's apart. PM wore the Cartier halo that day, which KM wore on her wedding day. See slide 12 at link.

You can just make out the Cartier Halo and coronet on PM in this picture, obviously after the crowning, back at BP.

^That's the way it works.

But wearing them doesn't mean they owned them.

Doesn't a new Parliamentary session open in early November? If there's a state opening along with it, it will be the first time Charles opens it in his own right, rather representing the Queen.

If so, I think it will be very formal, with white gowns for the ladies with family orders and tiaras. So we may expect some sightings of Camilla and Kate in New Stuff.

Thusly.

Wow, are there a lot of horsed-faced hags in that group.

Faces don't matter under that tonne of bling. Who can see the faces when blinded by that shit?

And you have to know that the light in that place is gem sparkle heaven.

[quote]R417 Wow, are there a lot of horsed-faced hags in that group.

I know! And then when they finally rope a genuine beauty into the family (Meghan) they scare her off.

Stupid.

Anne has already been given some major pieces in her lifetime. A Greek-style diamond tiara is hers now, which was once Philip's mother's. Zara wore it at her own wedding. Anne also has a few smaller tiaras that were handed down to her by the Queen when she came of age. It's alleged she will also inherit her mother's engagement ring, which was made from diamonds taken from another of Princess Andrew's tiaras (Philip's mother).

Uhh, Meghan at R419, you left willingly.

That thing at R413 IS ugly.

There’s a lot of ‘coronation chickens’ in the photo at r415.

Kate to be handed 'lion's share' of Queen's jewellery but Camilla 'gets first choice'

From her side, royal expert Katie Nicholl told Entertainment Tonight: “There is a hierarchy in all of this.

“The Queen Consort, really, gets first choice of the Queen's jewellery. And after that is Princess of Wales, of course, Kate.

“The Duchess of Sussex, I'm sure, will come in for some jewellery at some point, but she is much further down the pecking order.”

Megsy Baby will get next to nothing! hahahaha

If Queen Consort ever gives Meg anything from the jewel vault, it'll be the gift of something hideous that she knows the Harlkkes can't afford to pay the taxes on.

There will, of course, be no loans.

Fuck the government's plans. I'm going to be there for the bling.

Why would their be loans in any case. Unless one is a working royal. I'm sure TQ has left something to all her grandchildren and great grandchildren.

The royal ladies will wear tiaras, after Camilla is crowned they will don coronets. They wear both at the same time.

Catherine’s coronet as spouse of the heir will consist of crosses and fleur d lys alternating, with a single crowned arch.

R416, you raise an interesting point. Both the big annual diplomatic reception (tails and tiaras) and the opening of Parliament are ahead this fall. Does slimmed down monarchy extend to the dress code? Will the King be in a suit with some medals and the Garter, the crown on the pillow before him as was done for EIIR when it got too heavy to wear (no idea if he can even wear the imperial state crown prior to coronation... probably not?)? Will the Wales be there? Will it be coach and horses or cars? A more business like approach?

Why does this remind me of little girls playing dressup? Or playing with Barbie dolls

[quote]Why does this remind me of little girls playing dressup? Or playing with Barbie dolls

I suspect because you have no sense of history, how you got where you are, nor understanding of the order of business of the United Kingdom and Commonwealth.

I like it when they drag out the major league sparklers.

We don't see them enough.

Lots of videos on Youtube of The Queen, Princess Margaret and the Queen Mother attending gala movie premieres dressed to the nines. Receiving lines with actors, etc.

Beautiful tiaras, necklaces, furs, etc.

I understand the disappearance of the furs, but seeing all those great jewelry pieces is fun.

[quote]Will it be coach and horses or cars?

If Charles wants to modernize things, this would be a good place to start.

One of the Queen's subversive old age fuck-yous was a return to wearing furs. Not often, but in her later years, she wore them again.

^ In real fur. Anything made for her in later life, sez the Goog, was faux fur.

Is that old hag Camilla actually going to become “Queen”, or will she always be referred to as Queen Consort??

all the sovereign queens wear fur. Queen Margrethe has a gray one, and (former) Queen Beatrix has a black one.

[quote]R437 Is that old hag Camilla actually going to become “Queen”, or will she always be referred to as Queen Consort??

Whatever she technically becomes, she’s currently the crown’s biggest embarrassment behind Andrew.

I can’t believe her cold, blatant whorishness gets so rewarded. It just shows you how sleazy that family, and their entire system, truly is.

Did it suddenly get Puritan in here?

I'll just put this here rather than start another thread.

The stone is in place in St. George's Chapel, Windsor...

Did anyone see Princess Anne's press release about her wreath? Or the Wales'?

How do they get 4 coffins and an urn in to that tiny space? Are the coffins laid one on top of the other? Ewww!

[quote] First picture of Queen Elizabeth II’s ledger stone

Maybe her ghost will rise up and crack Camilla’s craggy head with it.

R443, they aren't "buried", but in an underground vault. There's plenty of room.

It's weird having people "buried" under the floor of a building. Have they never heard of a cemetery?

[quote]It's weird having people "buried" under the floor of a building. Have they never heard of a cemetery?

Cemeteries are vandalized. The Monarchy is controversial. The public can pay their respects at Windsor chapel under supervision beginning September 29th.

[quote] I’ll leave it to the Tiara Troll to correct me but I’m pretty sure that tiaras aren’t worn to the Coronation - coronets are.

I'm not the Tiara Troll, but tiaras ARE worn to coronations. Queen Victoria's coronation was the last that did not feature tiaras. Edward VII ordered that tiaras be worn for his coronation. Several peeresses and one princess complained later that it "was like wearing two hats". Tiaras were worn at the coronations of George V, George VI, and Elizabeth II. Charles has promised changes to the pageantry of his own coronation, so tiaras may or may not be a thing.

the stone covers a staircase, underneath is a crypt

Thanks. Been already mentioned how many times?

Horsemilla is already 75, we can certainly hope that longevity isn't in her family and that she kicks it soon sparing us having to see the hideous monstrosity for too many more years to come. The were cancer rumors a few years back, which sadly turned out not to be true, but we can always hope.

Sure. Crowds are just clamoring to dig up and ravish Big Liz.

(said no one ever)

R448 I would find hilarious if KC requires tiaras and then doesn’t let Megan borrow one for his coronation.

I'm sure Elton could lend her one.

"Both the big annual diplomatic reception (tails and tiaras) and the opening of Parliament are ahead this fall. Does slimmed down monarchy extend to the dress code?"

Since this fall Charles won't be crowned and he'll still be mourning the loss of his mum, it would be appropriate for him to dress down. Crown on a pillow, black cars, black uniform, black or purple velvet cape if he must wear an ermine-trimmed cape, that sort of thing. Camilla can wear the white dress, if white dresses are somehow mandatory.

[quote]r455 Camilla can wear the white dress, if white dresses are somehow mandatory.

Surely the height of irony.

I want to see the staircase and crypt under the stone.

Wishing cancer on someone is the lowest of lows R451.

[quote]I want to see the staircase and crypt under the stone.

Understandable, I do too, but of course Queen Elizabeth ll and her Family should be left with at least a shred of privacy and dignity away from the glare of the media.

I don’t know anything about crypts, but are the coffins interred into the ground or into the wall? Or are they just resting above ground sealed in a monument? Or just on the ground like in the picture below?

I think Henry VIII is in the crypt under St. George Chapel. Among others.

I know they can be accessed. Someone gave the queen a piece of collar bone that flew off during a beheading centuries ago (the family kept it all those years) and she was happy to accept and said it would be added to the coffin.

R451 Not that you're misogynist or anything like that, you know one of those types who thinks women who don't age well should be killed, right/

Ok R458, she should croak of a massive heart attack or stroke! Is that better?

Camilla has grown on me over the years. She's not our lovely Diana, long gone these many years now. She's just Camilla and she's all right.

Cammy's funny and smart, she drinks and smokes and reads and still kept her own house (and uses it). She has a good time and cares about her charities. Charles has been transformed since he married her, they should have let him wed her from the beginning. William's made his peace her.

Seems to be just the ever-infantile Harry and his wife who have some issue with Cammy. They're in the 40's, you'd think they'd have grown up by now.

Cammy is a hideous monstrosity, good for Harry and Meghan!!

It's not just Harry and Meghan that have an issue with the dried up whore.

[quote] I would find hilarious if KC requires tiaras and then doesn’t let Megan borrow one for his coronation.

Hahaha. Well, anything can be rented these days.

Hey, Meghan! Jealous, bitch?

The Duchess of Cambridge paid tribute to her husband’s late mother by wearing the Lover’s Knot tiara previously owned by Princess Diana.

Meghan doesn't have an authentic issue with Camilla. Her issue is an insipid, fatuous fantasy about Di, the corollary of which dictates that she behave like a Di sugar about Camilla.

[quote] The title of Princess of Wales should have been retired and never used again after Diana.

The heir apparent of the monarch has been called the Prince of Wales, and his wife the Princess of Wales, since the 14th century--600 years before Diana was even born.

Diana is just one of the eleven women to have held that title since Joan of Kent.

There is no point in trying to educated the clueless, R471 - they’ve seen The Crown and read Finding Freedom - they know best.

[quote] The Queen gave Meghan the pearl and diamond earrings that she just wore, not "jewels". A pair of earrings.

Last time I checked, pearls and diamonds were considered jewels.

Not if they're microscopic chips.

Just give sMEGs some tiara, and embed some listening device in it, so the BRF can anticipate and counterattack each of the Harkles' strike.

That's a brilliant idea, r475! They'll never do it but they should. Sometimes they do hair and tiara hours in advance.

Kate doesn’t present a responsible image to the women of her island by promoting anorexia.

Kate presents a responsible image to the women of Great Britain by promoting good health and regular exercise.

Good health includes eating. Both she and Wills’ mistress Rose Hanbury gave it up.

R479, you're a waste of life.

Well R479 sure didn't give it up. She weighs in at 400 lb.

And you still can’t spell “Marchioness of Cholmondeley”, can you, R479?

By all means, keep peddling Giles Corin’s lie, which he immediately retracted.

Charlotte already got a diamond horseshoe brooch that once belonged to the Queen Mother. Just a little bauble for a child, nothing more than a handful of exquisite quality diamonds. It probably took all of Meghan's willpower not to claw it off Charlotte's coat dress. Apparently Earl Spencer told William he would give Charlotte the famous Spencer tiara, presumably when she turns 18, I assume as a lifetime loan. It will be worn by her and associated with her. She's going to do alright for herself in the jewelry department.

Who cares about the Spencer Tiara? I can order it from Etsy for @39.75!!!

[quote]Apparently Earl Spencer told William he would give Charlotte the famous Spencer tiara, presumably when she turns 18,

Do straight men talk about things like that?

All that money could help the common British taxpayer right about now. What a family of grifters. Those jewels should be sold and the money given to the people.

And with a 6-year-old? Is he grooming her?

^^ Re:

[quote] Apparently Earl Spencer told William he would give Charlotte the famous Spencer tiara, presumably when she turns 18,

[quote]Do straight men talk about things like that?

I'm not sure I believe Spencer would give that tiara away. He still has a young daughter named for Diana., who I assume would want it for her wedding.

Wow, I take back my comment. Still seems odd though, as the BRF have so many tiaras.

Earl Spencer has four daughters and only one iconic tiara. Who the hell wants to be in that position? He may have decided Diana's granddaughter should have it. She outranks his daughters, after all.

The tiara would normally go to the son, the future Earl. He wouldn't be deciding on any daughters. Stays in the family.

[quote] Apparently Earl Spencer told William he would give Charlotte the famous Spencer tiara, presumably when she turns 18,

The earl makes many promises that he never keeps.

[quote] Earl Spencer has four daughters and only one iconic tiara.

Two tiaras plus a diamond necklace that can be converted to a small tiara.

True, but poster said iconic tiara.

[quote] The Princess of Wales hasn’t been “Kate Middleton” for ten years. She was never “Duchess Kate” or “Princess Kate” or even “Princess Catherine”. She’s the Princess of Wales.

I'll make a special point to always refer to her as "Kate Middleton" from now on, just to bother you.

She is Kate Middleton. Everyone knows who we’re talking about. It’s not our job to keep relearning names for her. Dealing with that mess is for palace flunkies.

[quote] I'll make a special point to always refer to her as "Kate Middleton" from now on, just to bother you.

The daughter of the trolley dolly whore is an acceptable alternative.

R495 - I can already tell that you’re dumb American trash - I don’t need an ongoing reminder. But whatever floats your tiny little boat.

Earl Spencer would NEVER give that tiara away, not in a million years. That sounds like utter bullshit. First of all, it’s priceless due to its provenance. Second, he makes money off of it in the form of exhibitions. He’s not letting that golden goose go, especially when Princess Charlotte will have access to countless tiaras.

R489 His daughter’s name is Charlotte Diana, while William’s daughter is Charlotte Elizabeth Diana. However, Earl Spencer’s daughter is several years older.

He has his own daughte, named Charlotte Diana,

Why Princess Diana never wore this Spencer Honeysuckle tiara?

R483 Link, please, to proof that Earl Spencer told Princess Charlotte that he would give her the Spencer tiara (he has several daughters himself and presumably granddaughters at some point - why the fuck would he give it to the kid who's going to have access to jewels galore?!).

And since that tiny brooch could barely be seen on camera, and it is very hard to tell the quality of small diamonds, how the fuck do you know they were of "exquisite quality", which means colorless with top notch clarity?!

A great deal of vintage jewellery was made with not top-notch quality diamonds. If you take a look at antique jewellery and Art Deco things from the 1920a-1930s, you will find a wide range of quality in diamonds.

I'd like to know how someone looking at a brooch that size on camera could tell the quality of those diamonds.

Most trained jewellers would need to see it in person with a 10x loupe.

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^Kate and William receive a rapturous reception in Wales today.

That story is total bullshit. There is no such protocol, and if there were, Diana was the youngest of three sisters who ALSO have grandchildren now, born before Charlotte.

The Spencer tiara didn't "belong" to her a s her granddaughter has less claim in age than Jane's or Sarah's.

Oh the old "anonymous sources" bit.

It's a French publication that clearly hasn't the slightest idea what it's talking about.

The Spencer tiara stays within the Spencer family. If any granddaughter gets it, it will be that of Louis, Lord Althorp, the heir to the earldom.

Right, they're going to pass on the piece to the Windsors and the Earl's own daughters and granddaughters can whistle for it.

He may on occasion loan the piece to her, e.g., at her wedding in a nod to Diana, but not because thete is any protocol about who gets it "for life".

Charlotte is a Windsor and a Cambridge far more than a Spencer. She's far more likely to be wearing the Cambridge Lover's Knot tiara than any other.

^blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

This isn't important... yet it is... how people just make nonsense up and put it out there. "I heard". "Apparently"... it's crazy the amount of junk information on the internet.

Whenever I see the byline is from "Vogue", I automatically know the article is bullshit

And we care what you think, why R508?

[quote]Per diem - wow!

Where was my per diem?

I would have loved to see Meghan try to bully The Duke of Kent.

The Duke of Kent looks like he melted.

They should have added the D of K in with the queen's service. He's been farting dust for 10 years.

She’s always the Duchess of Doolittle to me.

R499 Earl Spencer is flat broke. He's desperate to get tourists into Althorp to fix his roof. No way he's giving anything away. He also owes a shitload of alimony to all his ex-wives.

R509 This is DL. No one cares what anyone THINKS.

Including what you think.

R508 is right: it's a shite publication quoting an anonymous source about something that on its face lacks any logic whatsoever.

There's a big fight at Vogue between Ghanian Diva Edward Enninfull and Anna Wintour. My money's on Wintour.

Spencer was worth 100M L ten years ago. He's not flat broke.

He might be worth that much in property and things, but I'll bet he doesn't have much ready cash. I visited Althorp when his father was alive, and the maintenance on that place must be insane.

Everything is shit if it doesn’t fit your narrative, right R508 and R516?

The vast majority of QEII's personal jewelry will stay in the direct line to the throne and they'll go to Charles. He will decide who gets the loan of what and when. When he dies the pieces will go directly to William. This is the way it has been done for a very long time.

Regarding her jewels, she owned one piece (the Cullinan III & IV brooch) that is worth over $50 million dollars.

Fucking hell look at the size of those rocks.

Granny's chips!

Granddaddy’s now.

How long before Camilla gets to wear the Cullinan rocks???

I actually hope she doesn't break them out for the coronation, they'd be lost in all the bling on display, and wearing the Cullinans AND the Koohinoor would be too much even for Queen Mary!

Of course Charles himself gets the ultimate bling, the Culinan I or "Star of Africa", the largest diamond in the world!

It's in the scepter carried by the British monarch, and it's the size of a fucking tennis ball. It makes the Koohinoor look like a rhinestone.

I think once you hit 100 carats plus, nothing looks like a rhinestone.

R524 the Grannie in question was Queen Mary (Queen Elizabeth II’s grandmother) not Queen Elizabeth II.

@ r525 it looks like Queen Mary has a plank through her head.

Earl Spencer is poor? What? He should have married an American heiress.

That's bullshit. He's loaded by any measure.

[quote]r529 it looks like Queen Mary has a plank through her head @ r525

She always comes across as a bitter, avaricious old crow.

Always?

She looks rather stately to me.

That's and adorable photo @ 533!

How do you know, R531? He may be asset rich but cash poor.

"His father, who died in 1992, left £88m in his will, but much of that was tied up in the 8,500-acre Althorp estate and its art treasures. There is other wealth."

I'll take that ^ as abn indicator over somebody's "I'll bet he doesn't have much ready cash. "

@ r537 looks.like the old queen was having a little tipple with her tea!

Back in the 80s, the former Earl Spencer and Countess Raine sold millions of dollars in irreplaceable artwork, books and furniture. If I can find one of the many articles from the time, I will post.

As I said previously, not much ready cash when you are maintaining a lifestyle and estate like Althrop.

And the Countess had taste for shit. When you see a room she redecorated while touring the house, you know right away. Even her portrait is tacky.

We'll have to wait for the next podcast, I guess, for something interesting to snark about. I wonder how MM will relate Margaret Cho's Asian-American experience back to herself?

I think it's entirely possible that Spencer has spent all the liquid assets and more, on his lifestyle and divorces. Sure, he's kept the estate, but some or all of the the family treasures may be held in trusts that keep him from hawking them.

If Charlotte wants to wear her grandmother's family tiara, she's going to have to rent it.

Nothing is held in trusts, Spencer can sell whatever he wants. And did, a couple years ago- maybe $25 million worth of art to pay for the most current renovations and whatever else.

Well, Charlotte can buy it with her weekly allowance. God knows the family has more money than it can ever spend. .

It's not a "narrative" it's the fucking obvious truth.

Yeah, Earl Spencer is telling shitike that to French VOGUE about a kid be barely knows, te a protocol that doesn't exist, and a kid who ISN'T the "first granddaughter" and that oddly bypasses his own son and heir and HIS granddaughters.

It was even written in bullshit prose and the moment you saw the phrase "an anonymous source" and gave it five seconds of rational thought that would have been clear.

Except to you.

Don't like to spoil the fact based speculation that Spencer's broke, but aristocrats sell things all the time. In 2010 the Duke of Devonshire (net worth about 800M pounds) did a sale of the contents from the attic at Chatsworthn and made a cool 6M.

Ever heard of Francesco Guardi? Didn't think so. One of his paintings from the 1760s sold for "a record price of £26.7 million ($43 million) at Sotheby’s in London. Painted in the mid-1760s, the canvas was passed down to through generations of the Guinness family, which offered it at auction." The Guinesses are worth about 850M pounds.

Aristrocratic money often tied up in trusts. It protects the capital from tax. One thing any rich person will tell you is don't spend the capital. That's not really a big secret. So if somebody like Spencer sells some painting or holds an auction, it's most likely either an opportunity to make some money or gain some liquidity without fucking with the plans to manage and protect the capital.

Guardi sale

Trusts

I don't get why art is so ridiculously overpriced.

It's like any commodity... the less of it there is that's regarded as valuable, the more people with too much money will pay to possess it.

You and I are plebs mate. r551. I like a bit of Constable, why pay millions when a copy is twenty quid on the market?

Daisy of Denmark is slimming down... (linking to the cesspit in the next post): Queen Margrethe of Denmark has stripped four of her grandchildren of their royal titles, the Danish royal household has announced.

The monarch, 82, has removed prince and princess as well as 'His/Her Highness' titles from Nikolai, 23, Felix, 20, Henrik, 13, and Athena, ten.

A statement on Wednesday said Queen Margrethe hopes the move will allow the siblings to 'shape their own lives without being limited by the special considerations and duties’ that a formal affiliation with the Danish Royal Family involves.

The children of Prince Joachim, her second son, will be known instead by His Excellency Count of Monpezat or Her Excellency Countess of Monpezat starting on January 1, 2023.

The siblings, who are currently seventh through tenth in the line to the throne, will maintain their places in the order of succession.

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R548, the examples you give are of families that have real money. The Spencers (Diana's father and stepmother) sold almost 20 percent of the contents of Althorp , and at bargain basement prices.

Links, please. Times Rich List has him at 100m a decade ago. If it's important top you to have him broke, fine.

R556, have you got 100 million anything?

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There was an interesting series on PBS. An American woman who married the heir to the Earl of Sandwich visited various stately homes and discussed with the Duke and Earl owners of said estates how they manage to pay for upkeep on their estates. They're all cash poor and desperate to make a buck. The Earl of Carnavon was absolutely thrilled Highclere Castle was used to double as Downton Abbey but most of the aristos are living with leaky roofs. The upkeep on these stately homes is through the leaky roof.

[quote]Meghan Markle Will Get 'Nothing Of Value'

No so, she's getting all the Hummel Figurines that Prince George doesn't want.

I want them all.

The day I visited Althorp was interesting, as it was me and my partner and 2 other women- pretty much a private tour. This was before the major Di mania. There was a little makeshift gift shop in one of the stables with postcards and odds and ends.

The rooms you couldn't go in had short wooden gates ( like doggy doors). The docent was lovely and throwing a little shade Raine Spencer's way. When we got to one room, Earl Spencer was sitting there watching TV. He must have been bored (no Countess) and came over to chat.

One thing she mentioned when I commented on the double windows was that the utility bills were 100k pounds a year- and this was the early 80s.

Near the end of the tour, she had us wait in the entry hall and came back with signed photos for all of us which was a nice surprise.

A tender little smile.