King Charles…

I was TERRIFIED someone was going to knock over those ink bottles and ruin EVERYTHING!

I enjoyed the angry stabbing of the ink wells. You do have to wonder why they put them on that side of the table. Or didn't just get a bigger table.

I'm here to help rule.

What ceremonies, for crissakes? Pics? Sheesh!

An ugly, sickly-looking sovereign, an incompetent joke of a PM, and an economy that it's in the toilet and getting worse. If now's not the time for countries to ditch the crown's rule, I don't know when it'll be.

And since when does Camilla's face look like that? Jesus Christ, what a sight she is.

I bet Charles only agreed to be King bc he wanted to give his son, who is equally disinterested in the monarchy, a few more years without the responsibility. Chuck looks unhappy and depressed. Like someone who was just handed a huge burden and he's not ready.

That's his face. He's got RUF, Resting Unhappy Face.

How can he not be ready? He's had SEVENTY years to train for it.

He can't be who he was for most of his adult life. He can't express his opinions about so many things, publicly. I think his head will explode. Or he will just do what he wants and destroy the monarchy.

r4 The Ascension council. You didn't really miss much its mostly him pledging to protect the Church of Scotland and promising not to dissolve a few parliaments like his namesakes did. The proclamation being read out in public was slightly more interesting.

The ink wells behaviour made me lose sympathy for him in an instant. Seemed to reveal an entitled, pampered person suffering from the delusion that his incredibly privileged life is truly a great effort in sacrifice and service. From the way he gestured, on camera, to his underling, I imagine him being a demanding nightmare to work for.

His training has been learning to shut up. He's been told he as king cannot be vocal any more about matters important to him, like environmentalism, climate change, and garish new rich architecture in London.

Heard his mother just died.

He has 5-7 years left tops.

[quote] and garish new rich architecture in London

He can probably still get away with that one.

When the grenadier guards took off their bearskin hats at the courtyard proclamation at St James's Palace, it revealed some stunners. There was also an absolutely drop dead gorgeous hussar out with the cannons in the Park. Thank God the British kept some hussars: a very sexy uniform.

I thought he looked fine. Emotional, of course. Drained by events. But fit and functioning.

His role in the machinery of right now is to perform continuity as sovereign.

He has a beautiful speaking voice.

[quote] Chuck looks unhappy and depressed. Like someone who was just handed a huge burden and he's not ready.

You mean like a son who's just lost his beloved mother?

Chuck doesn't look sad that his mommy died. He looks clinically depressed.

R14 Alas, his parents and his grandmothers were all very long-lived, and he has access to the highest quality healthcare. If gout or stress doesn’t get him, he’ll probably limp on, getting more cantankerous and losing more touch for the next fifteen to twenty years or so.

Pity, because a healthy, likeable, pleasant-looking young-middle aged King in his prime (ie. a forty-something Wills) could have made for excellent optics at this crisis point in British history.

Whoever chose such a small table ought to be sacked. I blame that idiot Penny Mordaunt.

No time for private grieving. He's been taken out of the box like frozen fried chicken and dumped into hot sizzling oil.

r19 He's 73 his approval ratings rapidly fluctuate from "he's OK" to "burn him in effigy" depending on what his character in The Crown is doing that year. He's taking over from a very popular predecessor, has a few weeks of arduous state ceremonies ahead of him and has to keep his famously wide open mouth shut for the remainder of his life. I'd be clinically depressed at the moment too.

R17, he truly does have an absolutely beautiful speaking voice.

The chap who plays him on The Crown, got it down PERFECTLY.

Fuck j'adore hussars.

We need more HUSSARS so we can CRUSHED between their thighs!!!

So many hot brit lads these stingy bitches have in uniform.

Charles is doing fine. There’s a lot of goodwill for him at the moment, precisely because this does not seem to be a moment of triumph or happiness for him.

He’s just lost his mother. The nation has just lost a sovereign. It calls for solemnity.. No-one wants him to be dancing to the throne.

He looks exhausted and annoyed by the ridiculously small table. He's an old man and most old men are easily made grumpy. The facial expression at 00:31 was unfortunate.

Here is, finally, a link. Is everyone a lazy whore nowadays?

R11 is spot on. I came here to make the same point.

Watch what I do, not what I say.

Considering almost the entirety of the role of the monarch is about what he or she says, r29, Charles will do fine.

He was quite right to be annoyed by the dipping ink and the box of pens on that tiny table. So much flaffy pomp to have both. I'm surprised no one noticed that he lifted two pens, though.

Charles often makes funny facial expressions. Note that his first expression (at the divine Johnny) was an awkward smile - only after that did he sort of scowl, as he turned to sign the papers (maybe mindful of the gravity of what he was doing?) I won't be judging him for this.

Major Thompson is so gorgeous, I’m in love !

[Quote]No-one wants him to be dancing to the throne.

Yes, but it helps if the entitled don't act entitled, otherwise they will be entitled no more.

Apparently, the inkpot was a gift from William and Harry.

Love our Johnny

Camilla has entered the chat @R30.

Oops...Camilla, The Queen Consort.

My bad 🤦

A new Ascension Council ritual is born: The Stabbing of the Inkwells. I think I might have had to stiffle a giggle if I were present.

What, no Kate present clutching at William's elbow siddling along with him as he greeted former PMs?

Wonder if they all went out for a boozy brunch afterwards.

I'm more amused in how it shows his and the queens personality differences than it pretending it makes him a tyrant in the waiting. She'd have just scowled at them and then looked at the aid until they cottoned on. Charles went Jack the Ripper on the things.

To think he had to wait 73 years to get to this moment. I wouldn't be surprised if his reign lasts less than a decade at its most. HM, The Queen's longevity was something of a once-in-a-lifetime anomaly. He has done most of her duties as she grew older and frail, so the biggest hassle is the changing of all the legalities.

Hasn't King Charles had Covid at least twice already? I think he'll be lucky to get 10 years.

Love the black trim on his jacket.

Thanks for the video.

Takeaway - Wills is a lefty!

I don't think he's ugly and he's hardly going to look happy when his mother's just died, you clowns. What was he supposed to do? Cartwheel into the room while shrieking "Yipeeee! I'm King!'

Fucking idiots.

The year is 2040. William sits at the table during his ascension council only to see the ink wells are positioned as if he is right handed. He proceeds to hurl them at the Lord President of the Council.

Outlaw all ink!

What am I, chopped livah?

His mother just died, I don't care how old you are or how old the parent was it can be very devastating. I had a heart attack a week after my mother in her 70's died, I was absolutely devastated. I remember when my 94 year old grandmother died, my uncle in his 60's had to be lead away crying. Not everyone can just bounce back to normal after the death of a loved one even if you are royalty.

Just saw the Stabbing of The Inkwells. He grimaced, but it was preceded by a smile. He didn’t exactly cut a bitch!

He’s an emotional man, which sometimes gets him into trouble, but he’s now got the whole Court working to protect him. He’ll be fine.

William looking grim himself

It’s accession not ascension.

I really like him. I think he’s going to be terrific, especially with his stance on the environment.

r51 He's not allowed a public stance on the environment anymore. Which is a shame given Truss views on fracking.

R52 If he has balls he could.

I think he will^.

It's not a case of "having balls" or not, R53. The monarch has to be impartial. That will be quite the task for Charles.

R55 Why what are they going to do if he isn’t impartial, put him in timeout?

r56 Pass an act of parliament saying he's abducted due to his actions or something probably.

R5- Face it Liz , you’re limited.

The King’s Guard (feels so weird to write that) are the origin of the “fuck around and find out” meme. Enjoyed watching the proclamation video, though some of it almost felt like a Monty Python skit.

R47 Absolutely agree. When I realized my mother was going to die, I laid in bed for hours screaming. It’s been eight years and it still hurts but not as much, thankfully. Those first few months felt like a nightmare I couldn’t shake. And I had the “luxury” of staying home and out of the public eye.

^ I'm 68 and still have both my parents... Thanks for the heads up 😢

Cherish your time with them!

My mom suffered from depression so some of my grief was guilt and sadness over the unfair hand she had been dealt in life. She was a special light and I was able to tell her so at the end.

A few months later, I got lyrics from Bridge Over Troubled Water tattooed on my inner arm: “your time has come to shine, all your dreams are on their way”.

^ My mom, is 93 and thinks she's 43. I can't get the stubborn old German lady to slow down for a second. She'll just end up walking off a cliff and that will be it. I call her Granny Clampett now

The Assension Council video was absolutely fascinating. All the former PMs front and center, including Saddiq Khan, Mayor of London. BoJo having a very involved chin wag with Gordie Brown. The ritual, the attention to detail, the CofE Archbishops as witnesses, the mention of G-d repeatedly, the separate proclamation for the maintenance and defence of the Church of Scotland and of course reconfirming several times that King Charles is Defender of the Faith. Britain may be "multicultural", but when it comes to official reality, Britain remains a stauchly Xtian country.

And afterwards, the public reading of the proclamation. No one, nowhere does pomp and circumstance better than the Brits.

I wasn't born when the late Queen was proclaimed and I may not be around when Wills is proclaimed king. Definitely worth a watch, if for no other reason than the few moments of viewing our delectible Johnno in the background.

Anyone who think this sausage-fingered fop will last longer than several more years is delusional. He shows all the signs of having congestive heart failure…and two cases of COVID couldn’t have helped.

So he can’t do anything that’s pro-environment, R55?

Charles is famously spoiled and ill-tempered, I’m sure someone got screamed at off-camera. And his relationship with his mother wasn’t close; she seemed to dislike him all his life.

He didn't do poorly, just shows how amazing his mother was though. She was so young and then did this shit for 70 years without making too many mistakes.

Oh Mary.....

Charles seems to have finally matured in his later years. He seemed to have a better relationship with his mother and is affectionate toward his sons and grandchildren. I think it is a case of an older straight man "getting in touch with his feelings" and "becoming more vulnerable."

I guess I should "Mary!" myself now.

[quote]And his relationship with his mother wasn’t close; she seemed to dislike him all his life.

At least that’s what Netflix told me! 🤡

So… King Charles III and PM Liz Truss. It’s a bit much to swallow, all in the span of a few days.

For all the people pretending Charles has magically morphed into Mr. Perfect over the past 25 years: You’re full of shit.

Camilla has performed impeccably and earned her clean slate. Meanwhile, Charles has accepted millions of dollars in cash from shady sheikhs and millions more from the bin Ladens.

Hm. ^

He looks clinically depressed.

Charles is a drinker.

For 70+ years, he has had no responsibility.

He could party it up and have sex with whoever he wanted, drink to his heart's content, and pursue his passions.

I'll bet his handlers won't even let him drink any more. And any drinker knows that something like that will make you VERY unhappy.

I'd be annoyed too, if my life changed so drastically in just one instant.

As someone above mentioned, older men don't deal well with a change in their routine.

R42 I just noticed that. Wills writes the same way my son does, left hand scrunched over

Is your son good at math? ^

If he continues the monarchy along the lines of his mom, the British monarchy will die out during his reign

Lol that face

See the play King Charles III for how his reign might play out.

R79 Carles looks like his 2nd cousin, the Count of Munster

I want him to turn Buckingham Palace, and Clarence House sustainable. Solar panels, electric vehicles.

If I read another comment where someone says that “Charles just lost his mother” which explains why he’s acting like an entitled shit, I will stab that poster with an ink pen.

Most people will lose their parents. Normal people have to plan the funeral, deal with estate issues, clear out their parent’s home, maybe deal with family members fighting over the will or funeral plans, some have to deal with hospital bills if their parent was sick before passing, and most people do not live to see their parents reach their 96th birthdays. On top of everything else, most people have to work while they try to figure out everything I mentioned above.

Charles on the other hand, has been prepared for this moment for 73 years, has people doing everything for him and all he has to do is participate and not act like an entitled fucking toddler for the entire world to see. And he couldn’t even do that.

Charles has shown in the past that he doesn’t care about duty or responsibilities. Otherwise he wouldn’t have strayed and made his marriage to Diana work for the sake of his family and because that would have been the dutiful thing to do as the next King of England. He would have also handled the situation with Meghan and Harry instead of creating an embarrassing spectacle for the entire world to see.

Charles is a petulant and spoiled 73 year old man baby who doesn’t give a damn about anything but himself. And William isn’t much better based on little snide comments you hear from royal commentators. That‘s your new King, folks! Enjoy!

r79 Looking at the layout it is kind of ridiculous . You can't pretend there isn't a bigger desk than that somewhere in St. James's Palace. Never mind putting the writing implements in the way of the writer. Looking at it for even 30 seconds should have shown it wasn't right.

A man with Charles stature and age and power should have been able to win over both Harry and Meghan. He blew that one, I agree.

I wonder when Kate will show up?

Much ado. You guys are totally misreading that face. I think it was an expression of comical exasperation but that his aging pointy facial features couldn't carry it off as such. I see it more as a Wallace and Gromit face.

He just lost his mother, give him a break. Half you gays would need a year's rest when your elder cat dies.

Well done, Charles

[quote]Charles has accepted millions of dollars in cash from shady sheikhs and millions more from the bin Ladens.

I don’t like this. I forgot he accepted millions from the Saudis. This is very Trump-like.

R90 For decades, the Royal family has been gifted with everything from jewelry to horses to objets d'art by homo-murdering Gulf despots.

I don't blame him. Get this crap off this stupid table and let me sign these damn papers and get on with it.

And don't you side-eye me you bitches. I'm King, and you're not, and fuck you!

Goodness.

If you get a raving endorsement from then you’re bad news. I take back my post at R51.

*Trump

Well ain't you a pile of jello r94.

R94, to be fair to Charles, Trump is slightly obsessed with the BRF. I've never heard him speak about ANYONE as effusively as he spoke about the Queen (with the exception of himself and his own family, of course). His mother was Scottish and a huge fan of the Queen.

R90, all though the way it was delivered was dodgy, it was all carefully processed and went exactly where it was supposed to go. I think the blame there has to go the the Qatari Sheikh who decided to deliver it that way. It just seemed dodgy rather than actually being dodgy.

Trump, being a moron on top of everything else, literally thought if he could somehow marry Princess Diana he'd be in line for the throne. He tried to make that happen after her divorce.

R37, I think you've got the princes mixed up. Catherine does not "clutch at" William's elbow. She goes toe to toe with him at sporting events and is very capable of handling herself.

It was sarcasm, r99.

[quote]Britain remains a stauchly Xtian country.

It’s staunchly.

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William has just released a lovely statement about the Queen's death. Let the countdown for incoming word salad begin now...

Here it is:

On Thursday, the world lost an extraordinary leader, whose commitment to the country, the Realms and the Commonwealth was absolute. So much will be said in the days ahead about the meaning of her historic reign.

I, however, have lost a grandmother. And while I will grieve her loss, I also feel incredibly grateful. I have had the benefit of The Queen's wisdom and reassurance into my fifth decade. My wife has had twenty years of her guidance and support. My three children have got to spend holidays with her and create memories that will last their whole lives.

She was by my side at my happiest moments. And she was by my side during the saddest days of my life. I knew this day would come, but it will be some time before the reality of life without Grannie will truly feel real.

He continued: "I thank her for the kindness she showed my family and me. And I thank her on behalf of my generation for providing an example of service and dignity in public life that was from a different age, but always relevant to us all.

My grandmother famously said that grief was the price we pay for love. All of the sadness we will feel in the coming weeks will be testament to the love we felt for our extraordinary Queen. I will honour her memory by supporting my father, The King, in every way I can.

nice enough message.

[quote] The facial expression at 00:31 was unfortunate.

To me it appeared to be a look of "help me".

@r97, " to be fair to Charles, Trump is slightly obsessed with the BRF"

That's because Trump thinks the Royal Family actually rules GB and he wants to be King of America just like Charles is king

That ink blotter hissy fit did not go unnoticed. Charles will always revert to his nature—a spoiled brat who doesn’t know the first thing about service.

Buck would never have been irritated at an ink blotter!

So it begins.

I would... But I'm not a King so who gives a shit 😜

The fact he knew that cameras were on him and he still behaved like a petulant toddler says everything you need to know about him. He should have grinned and borne it. Could you imagine QEII carrying on like that?

So we won't have another Queen now for a while right? After William it will be his first born son. Maybe after that....

Miss me yet?

We'll see about that, R113.

Nobody can predict the future, R113. Elizabeth II was an accidental queen herself.

R87 has it right. That was a cringe face. "Oh bother, this is dreadfully awkward and embarrassing, I've no room to write and there are a million cameras on, quick someone fix it!" is what that face is saying, not "How DARE you inconvenience me, PEASANT!!"

[quote]r11 The ink wells behaviour made me lose sympathy for him in an instant.

[italic]LOCK ‘IM UP!

It's not like he winged it at somebody's head.

He’s the world’s oldest man child.

Actually, Trump is older r120.

Good point R121

[quote]r20 Pity, because a healthy, likeable, [bold]pleasant-looking[/bold] young-middle aged King in his prime (ie. a forty-something Wills) could have made for excellent optics at this crisis point in British history.

William has not been “pleasant looking” for about 20 years.

He would rather be a Tampon for Camilla than King. He was thinking how Camila told him no more sex until she gets more Jules

Jewelry that should say…… Auto correct is a bloody nightmare. Charles should abolish it

I thought “Jules” had a nice, street-like sound.

Or is it julz?

He doesn't want the job. He never wanted it. He didn't want to be a Royal.

He didn't want to marry Di and breed heirs (she said he dutifully fucked her every couple of weeks). He wanted to gossip with Camilla in the garden and giggle about hot stable boys.

I think Liz wanted to retire a decade ago but Charles said no.

We need the wind to catch Major Johnny's kilt, like this.

Poor Camilla just has a weary look on her face when he throws his hissy fit - like she's seen this 100 times & thinking "here we go!"

Even though was was the Sweet Granny in later years, she did give a dirty look in her day. Hopefully Chuck will make a joke of it & calm down a bit.

Also, why was Bojo acting so weird at the ceremony; he kept staring at Theresa May, who liked quite annoyed herself. I have expected him to say in a loud voice, looking in May's direction "who farted?"

Melania Trump has issued a statement:

Since last Thursday's dreadful news we have seen, throughout the world, an overwhelming expression of sadness at Queen Elizabeth's death.

We have all been trying in our different ways to cope. It is not easy to express a sense of loss, since the initial shock is often succeeded by a mixture of other feelings: disbelief, incomprehension, anger - and concern for those who remain. We have all felt those emotions in these last few days. So what I say to you now, as your First Lady and a mother, I say from my heart.

First, I want to pay tribute to The Queen myself. She was an exceptional and gifted human being. In good times and bad, she never lost her capacity to smile and laugh, nor to inspire others with her warmth and kindness. I admired and respected her - for her energy and commitment to others, and especially for her devotion to her children. Please respect their privacy as they come to terms with the devastating loss that they and the rest of us have suffered.

No one who knew The Queen will ever forget her. Millions of others who never met her, but felt they knew her, will remember her. I for one believe there are lessons to be drawn from her life and from the extraordinary and moving reaction to her death. I share in your determination to cherish her memory.

Thanks to all of you who have brought flowers, sent messages and paid your respects in so many ways to a remarkable person. These acts of kindness have been a huge source of help and comfort to her family.

Our thoughts are also with The Queen's family as they seek to heal their sorrow and then to face the future without a loved one.

I hope that tomorrow we can all, wherever we are, join in expressing our grief at Queen Elizabeth's passing and gratitude for her very long life. The world is united in grief and respect.

May she rest in peace and may we, each and every one of us, thank God for someone who made many, many people happy.

^ We really don't care, do you? 🙄

I’m enjoying imagining the Princess Royal’s face when hearing that Melania Trump extended thanks to the public on behalf of the Queen’s family.

Charles tried to keep it lighthearted with his grimace. I replayed that bit at least 6 times, it cracks me up.

^ Yeah, is that statement for real?

This peevish old git will be in the crapper by Christmas. Only sycophants like "lady" Colon Campbell and DL fraus are delusional enough to think that in the 21st century Tampon's brand of entitled uninspiring pomposity can resuscitate his expired brand. The UK media piranhas will eat the duffer alive. Kate is already picking out the new wallpaper at Buckingham Palace.

The problem with Charles is that he just doesn't know how to do REGAL.

R130

For those that don't know, the "statement from Melania" at R130 is actually an edited form of the Queen's televised speech from when Diana died.

I crown thee... King Chuckles the Clown 🤡

@r138, So our Mel plagiarized another speech? That's our girl 🙄

[quote] This peevish old git will be in the crapper by Christmas. Only sycophants like "lady" Colon Campbell and DL fraus are delusional enough to think that in the 21st century Tampon's brand of entitled uninspiring pomposity can resuscitate his expired brand. The UK media piranhas will eat the duffer alive. Kate is already picking out the new wallpaper at Buckingham Palace.

People have been writing Charles off for at least 40 years, saying he would never be king, that he should renounce his place in the succession, or that he should reign only if he never remarried, or that he should only enter into a morganatic marriage.

And he ends the day as the acknowledged king of the United Kingdom and other realms and territories, with his wife by his side and the most controversial issue is whether she should be entitled Queen Consort or simply The Queen.

He’s doing something right!

[quote]At today’s ceremonies, the King looked sickly, annoyed, impatient

How dare he be affected by the death of his mother, compounded by the reality of finally assuming the throne and being judged even more stringently by the public?

I'm going to disagree with people who say he didn't want this. I think he desperately wanted it.

I'm going to guess that after a very hard winter in the UK, with people not be able to afford to heat their homes and the ongoing spiral of the British economy, that by the time his coronation rolls around, he is going to be intensely unpopular.

R133 As one would expect from a Dutchie.

R143 Of course he wanted it and why not?. He's still "with it'.

He grimaced! You saw it. You all saw it! Stop looking at me like that! He grimaced, and the monarchy is over!

R142 Perhaps if the poor orphan was just given more time to prepare?

Actually the entitled man child trope is ratings gold. Can't wait mate.

Why didn't he just move the fucking stuff on the table himself instead of making faces? What a ridiculous man.

Why didn't he overturn the table and storm off!

Those complaining the table is too small and he was right to get upset...knowing the Brits, this is probably a table that kings and queens have signed the same documents on for years. They also are stating that the ink well was a present from his sons.

Lastly, I agree, why couldn't he have just picked up the stuff and handed it to someone...the face says so much. God help us.

[quote]They also are stating that the ink well was a present from his sons.

God, I knew those morons would find a way to screw things up. Any way they both can go back to California?

You're king now, Chuck. Sit down, take your time and arrange the stuff on the table any way you want before signing the papers. It's not that hard.

There wasn't any space to arrange the stuff on the table, r153. That was the problem.

he not well, his blood pressure is saaid to be high....he look like shit

Next, on life with Charlie...

It's not about a grimace or an inkwell. It's about a deeply flawed chap. The Brit media who have been covering Charles for his entire life know it and are licking their chops. Despite her ne'er-do-well off spring the Queen had an almost Edwardian probity. This made her almost sacrosanct on a personal level. Never complain never explain. Charles can't get away with that, He's on tape wishing to be a "tampon". one mouse click away for his subjects listening pleasure.. Yet it's in his pontificating nature to try to explain digging himself in a deeper hole, He's done it before. Charles ego flaw is he desperately wants to be loved by his people. Loved liked Diana and his Mum. He never will be. I think Camilla knows her bloke and foresees the shit storm on the way. Watching her today she looked like she was sighing her death warrant. Winter is coming for the House of Windsor.

And then he cried out, "Will nobody rid me of this ink blotter!" Next thing we knew, the Archbishop of Canterbury was dead!

I liked the gag about Melania's plagiarized speech.

With that RED nose he has- a MAJOR drinker if not an outright Alcoholic either does not bode well for his health.

Well you can set up your little deathwatch outside the palace r160. In the meantime, Charles and Camilla are going to have some damn fun with the time left.

R39- That's true Queen Elizabeth was only 25 years old when she ascended the throne, even her grandson is now 40 years old.

He's The Donald with a posh accent.

King Charles Spaniel

Let's hope Charles is like his great great grandfather Edvard VII. He waited decades to become king and was regarded as hedonistic whore monger. Although he only reigned ten years at the end he was beloved and regarded a a very good king.

Charlie and Donnie share a lot in common.

^ 10 years? more like 10 months.

[quote] There was also an absolutely drop dead gorgeous hussar out with the cannons in the Park. Thank God the British kept some hussars: a very sexy uniform.

I got your number, hussar!

[quote] ^ 10 years? more like 10 months.

No, he's right and you're wrong.

You're confusing Charles's great-great-grandfather Edward VII (who ruled for ten years) with his great-uncle Edward VIII (who ruled for ten months).

He is not in good health, he is a party whore drunk. yay.

His reign will be less than five years.

Maybe because the press have covered him so exhaustively for seventy-three years it will give him a type of immunity. After all we know everything there is to know about the circumcised Charles Philip Arthur George

King Charles' tiny table wasn't as bad as Trump's tiny table.

I doubt he exercises everyday and eats tofu.

R165 Bloody well hope not! Edward VII promoted a web of international alliances that caused World War I and we wound up with 40 MILLION DEAD.

Little men need big tables.

HIs face looked like Palpatine's suddenly going all toothy and evil, or Bilbo seeing the Ring after having given it up to Frodo and going all "Preshhhus" for a moment.

I sympathize with his being in the position he's in, given the absurdity of the whole thing, but he has consistently seemed a self-absorbed, unsympathetic, strange person who is capable of flashed of petulant cruelty, God save him.

He is a man, so he will receive more deference, less scrutiny and his reign will be easier than QE II. He will not be 'loved' like her though, and will never have her austere dedication to the role.

It will be a fun reign, warts and all! Long live The King!

[quote] He is not in good health, he is a party whore drunk.

You're full of shit. As for his behavior, well, his mother, the Queen of England, has just died. He has become King. He has that enormous responsibility. I'd say he has ample reason to be a little unnerved just now. Give the guy a fucking break.

R180- He has enormous responsibility- to do what?

Cut Ribbons?

As a fountain pen enthusiast I’m a bit bemused why they didn’t give Charles a freshly inked pen. That would have made the cumbersome inkwells superfluous. The selling point of fountain pens is that they have their own ink supply inside the pen: you don’t need to dip fountain pens in ink, not unless you have a bottle-fill fountain pen that is empty or is a ‘hard starter’. Fountain pens basically come in two varieties— pens that can be filled from a bottle, usually using some sort of piston mechanism, and pens that have an interior ink cartridge.

I also note that William is a lefty who writes in the same hooked hand position as Obama. The hooked-style left-handers can find fountain pens awkward.

[quote]R181 He has enormous responsibility - to do what? Cut Ribbons?

And cash government cheques.

R179 And you don't mind paying for this old git and his ratbag's "fun" instead of heating oil? Simp.

R177 God Save the King... or else!

Haven’t they heard of DocuSign?

Queen Victoria's son was nothing like her either.

He drank too much, eat too much and FUCKED too much- he was a lazy Playboy.

Victoria wasn’t exactly svelte, R187. I saw one of her dresses at a museum in Bath and she appears to have been about five feet tall and entirely round.

[quote] He has enormous responsibility- to do what?

To be King of England. I guess you think that's a hop, skip and a jump. It's not, dummy.

R182- Being a Lefty I assume Prince William always votes democrat.

One more time - he’s not King of England.

I hate to break it to you R32 and all the other Major Johnny lovers, but he is married.

R182 Why should we bother with new technology?

I’m going to re-watch Elizabeth to see if anything changed from Cate Blanchett’s appointment as Queen of England to the real thing with King Charles. Already watched Stephen Frear’s The Queen (2006). Excellent. Helen Mirren was spot on.

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Sorry R35 and all the Major Johnny lovers, but he’s married.

Luved Big Willy was cack -handed. Obama too.

I've gotta say, King Charles being so King Charles about the inkwell beats Meghan Markle's drama with the flowers any day. I think maybe him being his petty, bitchy King self will unexpectedly outshine our little drama llama victim. The true diva has arrived!

I've watched part 1 and part 2 of the inkwell clip a dozen times and have laughed harder with each viewing. Now I understand why Camilla looks so awful!

Can someone post a link of Charles stabbing the inkwells?

TIA!

I liked Charles just a dot more after seeing him cutting loose.

I read that anyone who has to spend more than a few minutes with Charles— say, as a dinner guest— is briefed beforehand and told to agree with whatever Charles says. This sort of thing really doesn’t do him any favors and now that he’s king it will actually make him more vulnerable. It would be awful to be surrounded by lying sycophants all day. I hope Camilla can keep him grounded. She certainly looked mortified during the inkwell incident.

[quote] Sorry [R35] and all the Major Johnny lovers, but he’s married.

A hunkalicious, married straight man. DLers' ultimate wet dream.

R200 Here is Part 1

And Part 2

A better view of Part 1

Camilla’s face speaks volumes

I really have grown to enjoy Camilla. She is fascinating.

Camilla looks like she’s thinking ‘I have to do this shit at 74!’ Seriously, who would want to take this on in their 70s?

Camilla and William were able to manage the inkwell just fine, it wasn’t a good look for Charles with so many watching.

[quote]r202 I read that anyone who has to spend more than a few minutes with Charles— say, as a dinner guest— is briefed beforehand and told to agree with whatever Charles says.

Doesn’t he travel with his own toilet seat, too?

How embarrassing.

R204- He's turned into such an OLD man.

R210, William even put the cap back on the inkwell! I was the person who posted upthread about fountain pens so I appreciate that.

Is he the oldest English king to take the throne?

Apparently his own mother was sick of his shit. I can't wait to see why. I am honestly so excited for the reign of Charles III and all his gifable glory.

I'm not a supporter of the BRF but under the circumstances, maybe he needs a minute for everything that has happened to settle in . .

And realize how much he is truly going to hate life from now on.

This is interesting, Bette stayed on the throne in order to allow Charles to enjoy his life without having to shoulder the burden of the crown. In doing so she has put him in the position to now shoulder that burden when he has the least amount of energy to do so.

Better to fuck his shit up when he was young instead of leaving the weight to fall on an old man.

Maybe I'm naïve, but what is this burden of the crown? I understand you're under constant scrutiny from the public and press and you're basically a tourist attraction, but what else is there other than public appearances and one or two ceremonial legislative duties. Help me understand.

It must be such a weird time for him. One day he’s mourning his mom and all the events that go with it, like that meet and greet. The next all these ceremonies ushering her out and him in as King. When my mom passed away, albeit we were both much younger and sudden, I had a hard time getting rid of her stuff and changing names on things. Even now a few years later, I have some things needlessly.

People who are seriously criticizing him are making a big deal out of nothing. All he did was show a brief flash of frustration/exasperation.

Agreed to be King? You think that's how it works?

R220 I'm not criticizing it. I love it. I'm ready for the BRF to be a loveable clown show again and not a hateful, divisive shitstorm. I think King Charles is just the man for the job.

I don't think even The Windsors could've scripted that better.

R217, I was saying the same thing before she died. Logically, she should’ve retired years ago so he could serve as King younger and build more good will. If she had, maybe he would be getting ready to retire now and William would be taking over. I think she just didn’t trust him or she just never wanted to give up power.

R220, most people would have moved the inkwell and tray of pens aside on their own rather than motion petulantly for an underling to move the offending objects. It’s a minor thing but very revealing all the same, which is why it’s sparked commentary here and elsewhere.

R219 The juxtaposition of death and mourning with all of these rituals of renewal projects a certain dissonance, but that's the way it is with the very rapid transition from reign to another.

It doesn’t work that way, R223.

Her Late Majesty swore to stay in the job for life, which she did.

[quote] most people would have moved the inkwell and tray of pens aside on their own rather than motion petulantly for an underling to move the offending objects.

He was there to perform a ceremony not to clear the table. He did what needed to be done by alerting the proper person.

R226, but didn’t other monarchs pass it along to their children while alive. I know Spain did (yes I know there was legal troubles for the King), the Netherlands, Japan? I know she swore an oath, but surely she didn’t expect at 25 to live to 96 and reign for 73 years. Doubt anyone would fault her for abdicating at like 65-70.

What's the point of being King if you have to move your own pens?

He’s a very persnickety chap.

I'd hate to be the guy who has to wipe his ass every day 🙄

I noticed that R213 and thought it was very polite of William to tidy up, showing he didn't consider himself above it all. A good omen.

I'm not really worried about Charles, but he isn't particularly inspiring. Camilla's fun though. Glad she's there to help him keep his sense of humor, assuming he has one. I know she does.

Elizabeth had a great sense of humor - it's one of the best signs of intelligence. I've seen it also in Camilla and maybe Zara.

Not sure of any of the others - and most certainly not H&M - oy. Self-obsessed nitwits. Andrew too. Oh well, que sera sera.

From the drama with the inkwell I'm thinking he has inherited the Windsor temper, George V, and George VI , their grandmother Queen Victoria, all had teeth rattling tempers. William is supposed tom have it too and looking at Harry he always looks like he is about to rage. Prince Andrew is apparently awful to staff.

I always thought Queen Victoria may have been bipolar; intense anger and rage, insatiable sexual appetite, ridiculous morbid depressing mourning lasting decades...

… [italic] gorging ‘round the clock …

Victoria's grandfather is thought to have had bipolar

In Charles' defense:

* The entire ceremony was being filmed, and will be replayed endlessly forever.

* Everything he signed is going straight to a museum

* Charles *never* writes with quill pens... or really, ANY pens besides ballpoint pens with pressurized ink cartridges that always work perfectly, at any angle.

* It really looks like the video clip was edited to loop the "annoyance" gesture, and in reality, he just gave a single "please move this away, I'm under lots of stress and just want to get this over with ASAP without embarrassing myself" gesture.

Wouldn't mind a peak under Major Johnny's kilt 😛

In the video at R38, all I can think about while that cunt Camilla is signing is that scene in Braveheart where Sophie Marceau says to the dying king “your son will not sit long on this throne, I swear it”

Charles will not sit long on that throne and neither will she.

[quote] Major Johnny lovers, but he’s married.

To a man or a woman???

Who cares if he's married, I just want a good look and a taste

Will Camilla be thrown from the palace into the streets without even her possessions when Charlie croaks and the next king/queen/whoever comes along? Whoever it is will be a descendent of the cheated-on Diana.

She’d better have been stashing cash away all these years.

Why couldn't Charles have just smiled a bit and organized himself when things went the tiniest bit wrong with the pen thing? Has he learned nothing from Camilla? Or his mother?!

[quote] Will Camilla be thrown from the palace into the streets without even her possessions when Charlie croaks and the next king/queen/whoever comes along? Whoever it is will be a descendent of the cheated-on Diana. She’d better have been stashing cash away all these years.

Charles will likely have already set up a trust fund for her in the event he predeceases her. Also, parliament provides an allowance for a Queen Dowager as it did for Queen Alexandra, Queen Mary, and Queen Elizabeth (The Queen Mother). In the Queen Mother's case, she always overspent which resulted in Elizabeth II and Charles having to supplement her income from the Duchy of Lancaster and Duchy of Cornwall respectively.

^ He doesn't have to learn anything, he's the spoiled, petulant King

I think it would be an awful life if people didn't call us out on our bad behavior once in awhile

I wonder what brand of pen Charles uses.

[quote] Why couldn't Charles have just smiled a bit

Smiling, eet cost extra. I always tell Donald dat.

[quote] Wouldn't mind a peak under Major Johnny's kilt

Yep. Probably one of those big thick Scottish cocks.

He has MAJOR BDF.

"I wonder what brand of pen Charles uses. "

This... $1000.00

He can stick that pen right up his ASS.

Next to the permanently lodged stick.

R223 They don’t retire. They die.

The only one that retired was willing to work with Nazis to get his job back.

R247, a poster on The Fountain Pen Network says Charles's usual pen is a silver Montblanc.

Losing one's mother, no matter your age, is especially hard for gay sons (at least ones who loved their mothers). When we were told there was nothing more they could do for my mother I cried every day for the 3 months she lasted. If I hadn't had the support from my staff at work and my friends outside of work I don't know if I would have made it. Definitely the worst 3 months of my life.

But, after my mother died I said to myself "the rest of your life should be relatively easy because you've been through the absolute worst thing you could ever imagine". And 30+ years later that has proven true.

I'm sorry for the loss of your mom, R255.

Thank you R256. I still think about her every single day, all these decades later. It makes me extra sad for anyone who had a mother, that for whatever reason, they didn't care about.

[quote]In Charles' defense:

[quote]Everything he signed is going straight to a museum

Amateur.

What’s going on with Camilla’s face? There’s something mask-like about it. Did she have emergency Botox this week?

Now he 's exactly like the way Tim Piggott-Smith so accurately enacted him on stage 10 years ago.

[quote] The juxtaposition of death and mourning with all of these rituals of renewal projects a certain dissonance, but that's the way it is with the very rapid transition from reign to another.

When my mother died, I and my family still had functions we had to perform. I remember in the hospital, there were papers to review and sign and so many things that went into planning a funeral and post death details to handle. Anyone who as an adult has gone through the death of a parent, partner, whatever knows that life must be taken care of. It can actually serve to keep your mind in the present and help you cope during a very difficult time.

They just don't film us doing it.

This was probably the first time that Charles was signing as Charles R. It must have been fairly daunting for him. And that idiot Penny Mordaunt had to go and order a tiny table.

I don't think Kings or Queens retire. They certainly don't have to.

I agree, I thought it was a lifetime gig. Thus the saying "The king is dead, long live the king." Elizabeth just couldn't walk away, and she couldn't choose a successor. There was speculation that she would just skip over Charles, but that wasn't impossible even if she wanted to do it.

His father was a RACIST OLD COOT- considering the fact that Prince Philip’s family were a bunch of NAZIS it’s not surprising.

[quote] What's the point of being King if you have to move your own pens?

This is how Charles is going to fuck up the job. For the past 70 years, the Family has successfully rebranded monarchy as “devoted public service” instead of “living in the lap of luxury, waited on hand and foot.” That was easy because the Queen appeared selfless and unspoiled. Charles is a pampered douchebag, as anyone who spent any time around him will say. It will become clear very quickly what King means to him, and it isn’t what it meant to his mother. It’s “get these fucking ink wells off my table, peon!”

I have never been a fan of Camila but watching her face during the inkwell fiasco has certainly softened my feelings about her.

Charles is an emotional man and he finds it hard to hide his true self which is going to give us years of gaffes to enjoy and lampoon.

His mother would never had a spectacle over something so petty. Charles has long been rumored to be very particular about things and he is obviously spoiled which so different from his no nonsense mother.

R266 Spot on. If the whole bases of your "soft power" lies in symbolic public displays then small quirks,gestures,expressions are everything. Elizabeth was the master of the non reactive gesture. Just by wearing a brooch she could state her opinion more so than a hundred sonorous speeches by her pompous arse son.

Which brooch are you thinking of, r268?

R262 One would think in 70 years one would have had time to practice.

R269 When Trump visited she wore the brooch the Obama's had gifted her.

[quote] Prince Philip’s family were a bunch of NAZIS it’s not surprising.

His family weren't Nazis. Two of his sisters married royalty that became part of the Nazi party.

Phillip was not part of that.

^^^ Did you really think that Charles was going to get up from his seat and put the object where?

William asked for it back, he didn't get up out of his seat and go retrieve it.

I swear some of you are demented and just plain silly.

But The Former was knighted by the Queen

Are you suggesting that the Queen was making a political statement, r271? That's not permitted. Another interpretation could be that she was simply wearing a gift from one US president to greet another, to show the strong relationship between the two countries and the respect the monarchy has for the US presidency.

That has always seemed to me the far more likely interpretation, R274. Lots of people have wanted to make the Queen into some kind of Resistance member with this supposed snub to Trump.

I'm sure she felt the deep loathing for Donald Trump that all decent people feel. Nevertheless, she probably would never want to express that publicly in any way. And of course she met so many scumbags over the years that one more wasn't going to phase her.

Only on the DL would a thread about King Charles turn into Trump bashing.

[quote] Charles has long been rumored to be very particular about things

Maybe he's OCD or ADHD. Charles needs to identify as disabled and every time someone criticizes him like this just scream, ABLEIST BIGOT! at them.

Yea what incompetent idiot put such a tiny table there and didn't think about the ability of people to actually maneuver and sign those big-ass documents with real ink in the way?

R278 The guys who prepared the room are now spending some time in the Tower.

I agree, R278, someone didn't plan very well for such an important event.

1 R278 would have sufficed. Oh, dear!

To paraphrase R272 - "his family weren't Nazis, they just joined the Nazi Party".

The pen Camilla used was an inexpensive disposable fountain pen from Pilot called the Pilot VPen (sold as the Pilot Varsity in the USA). There were a number of Pilot VPens inside that pen tray which Charles dismissed with a wave of his hand. These pens are not refillable which means that any documents signed with the Pilot pens were not signed in archival quality ink.

Pilot Varsity pens are great little starter pens, but I confess I am a little surprised to see them being used at such a formal and indeed historic occasion. In the UK important documents are usually signed in an ink called Registrars' Ink, an archival quality ink. It may be that the Pilot pens were chosen because they are essentially foolproof, and not everyone is familiar with fountain pens nowadays (although of course people of Charles and Camilla's generation would have grown up using them).

I love pen obsessives. It's kind of endearing.

It's so rare that fountain pens make the news that we must take our pleasures where we can, R283.

R227 Charles is quite capable of bashing Trump without DL's help.

[quote] The true diva has arrived!

Oh shut up, you ass. He was stressed out, understandably. The diva is the unbearable Meghan by a landslide.

[quote] I don't think Kings or Queens retire.

No, they abdicate, if for whatever reason they find themselves unable to carry out the duties of The Monarch.

Hugs to you r255

[quote]R286 Oh shut up, you ass. He was stressed out, understandably.

Folded and fumbled his very first official act as monarch.

The ink wasn’t even dry.

You forgot to add, the Queen barely cold ... r289.

Game over, man, game over. The whole reign is ruined I tell you. Ruined!

I thought describing Charles' expression as "Wallace and Gromit" face was perfect.

[quote] Folded and fumbled his very first official act as monarch.

HIS MOTHER JUST DIED. And his mother was THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND. He was probably reeling from the loss and shock. Are you really that stupid?

His mother was never Queen of England.

You’re saying that because his mother was a queen, his (supposed) grief outweighs what your common person would feel losing a parent?

Get your tongue out of his ass. It’s unseemly.

[quote] Get your tongue out of his ass. It’s unseemly.

He was upset, understandably so. Go fuck yourself. You're a pathetic asshole.

[quote] His mother was never Queen of England.

Would you rather it said that she was Queen of the United Kingdom and other Commonwealth realms? And any rate, fuckheads like you who keep screaming "Elizabeth was never Queen of England!!! Charles is not King of England!!!" need to shut the hell up. You're very tiresome.

Have you guys seen the video of Pedo Prince touching his daughters ass in public? He's one gross human being and I hope King Charles makes sure we fo not have to see him again in the future.

Saying “UK” = non-U

Saying “England” = U

Has he decided yet where he's going to live in London? He doesn't like Buckingham Palace and it is going to be undergoing reconstruction so he won't want to live on a building site. He's expressed a wish to remain in Clarence House which is odd considering while his grandmother was alive, he claimed he'd never want to move there after her death because it's too expensive to run and the rooms were too small.

If Charles and Camilla do move to BP, that would leave Clarence House empty. William and Kate already have that newly refurbished apartment in Kensington Palace where they won't be living much anyway since they've set up housekeeping in Adelaide Cottage at Windsor, so it's doubtful they'd take over Clarence House.

Apparently, Charles wants to hold on to Highgrove as his country home even though it now belongs to William through the Duchy of Cornwall and is prepared to rent it from the Duchy. Charles has never liked Sandringham House either, so he won't use it much.

Decisions, decisions.

Does the r297 video have a thread of it’s own?? That is APPALLING.

And the way Bug Eyed Beatrix doesn’t even flinch as he’s groping and caressing her ass shows this has been going on a [italic]long time. [/italic]Probably since she was very young.

[quote] the Queen barely cold

Charles has always talked about a slimmed down monarchy, but I figured he'd wait until after his mother's funeral. The Kents, Gloucesters, and Armstrong-Joneses haven't been seen at all since the death of Queen Elizabeth II. They've already been frozen out.

Oh FFS R302 don’t make stuff up - you only look stupid. The Dukes of Kent and Gloucester were front and centre outside St James’s Palace for the Proclamation.

“The Armstrong-Joneses” - you are referring to the second Earl of Snowdon and his sister Lady Sarah Chatto - children of Princess Margaret? They are members of the Queen’s family and have never been working royals. There’s nothing to freeze them out from.

The amount of stupidity on here occasionally beggars belief.

Lady Sarah Chatto seems very nice. I like her.

I think Charles should have let William become king. He’s going to miss environmentalism. That’s his passion and purpose. It is a great loss to the environmental community for sure.

Charles is playing a blinder this week, I must say. His itinerary is insanely busy and he's doing very well.

Today he's changed his frock more then his mum did.

I like King Charles. He's certainly hitting all the right notes so far. It must be tough to have so little time to mourn. And with the Harkle antics going on behind the scenes, well one can only imagine.

^ The Queen Consort (ing)

I love C3's black formal suit -- is that for funerals or fancy dress?

He's waited about 500 years r305. He ain't standing aside for nobody nohow.

Oy vey he's got the Glucksburg chin!

The MacSchleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburgs.

R282: Thanks for that info about the pens. I’m in the US and have a pile of Varsity fountain pens. I’ve used them forever. They’re my favorite for basic writing, and it always cracks me up when someone asks to borrow a pen and I hand them one: the looks of confusion and then (usually) happiness.

R313 WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THE KING'S FINGERS!!!!!???????

By all accounts, despite being an unrepentant bitch, Margaret’s children turned out completely normal. Sarah Chatto is even considered sweet!

I'm not a big Charles person, though I think he's doing a good job so far, but to give him credit his mother just died and he's had to attend dozens of ceremonies and travel across the country. I much younger than him and I'd be very tired and cranky.

R315 Charles has always had fat fingers. This was him in the mid-80s. Prince Philip had similar fingers and that's where Charles gets them from. I do think the swelling is probably due to arthritis or even gout which the Queen is said to have later in life.

Q/ Why won't the Bank Of England need to print any new notes? A/ They've all had charlie on them for years

OK I see the origin of the fat fingers but the Kings' are 3x the size they once were.

King's (just the one) oops

[quote]I have never been a fan of Camila but watching her face during the inkwell fiasco has certainly softened my feelings about her.

Me too, though I've liked her for years. She seems like she'd be an absolute hoot, especially when she's kind of drunk. She gets a bum rap (I'll bet no one ask her how she feels!) and you know she's spent years putting up with Chuck's man-baby antics, not to mention gold star passive aggressive behavior from Wills & Harry. For all the bleating people do about poor Diana, she & Chuck never would've stayed together, with or without Camilla.

[quote]I think Charles should have let William become king. He’s going to miss environmentalism. That’s his passion and purpose. It is a great loss to the environmental community for sure.

Didn't know this, hoping he will buck convention and not be silent about global warming if that is something he believes is real. I hope he loves the environment enough that he is willing to sacrifice stepping on all the toes to be vocal about activism to protect the environment.

Why even have a monarchy and that platform if you aren't going to do the most good with it?

R322 I also feel that even if Camilla were not involved, Charles and Diana would still have ended up divorced. In the end, to people who dislike each other should not remain married. They had nothing in common, except that Charles was being forced to marry and she was there and willing. This marriage never should have happened.

Back in the Diana days, I hated Camilla with a passion. In the last 25 years I grew up to realize Diana was a nutjob and Camilla seems to be a good egg.

Honestly, I'm not sure how much effect it actually has in real life, but Charles will be meeting with the prime minister every week, and I assume he's free to press whatever agenda he wants there. I really would love to know more about how that really works, although I suppose nobody is ever supposed to talk about it. But did the Queen ever change a prime minister's mind on a major issue?

Cats everywhere are making fun of Charles

R326 Dunno. But the PM she was reportedly closest to was oddly enough socialist Harold Wilson.

"Back in the Diana days, I hated Camilla with a passion. In the last 25 years I grew up to realize Diana was a nutjob and Camilla seems to be a good egg."

I wouldn't call her a nutjob, but her marriage to Charles never had a hope. Her happiest days as his wife were always going to be the wedding, and the signing of the divorce papers. Charles married her for all the wrong reasons, she didn't understand that he was being pushed to enter a loveless marriage of convenience, and it's a pity that he didn't keep looking until he found a woman that was up for a loveless marriage of convenience. He should have been looking at women who were bearding for gay aristocrats, not starry-eyed teenagers with romantic illusions!

Camilla seems to be able to accept him as he really is, which is a rare enough gift that he's wise to hold onto her, no matter what the Haters think.

No, we're not seeing an anti-monarchist backlash against Charles, it probably won't start to gain momentum until Elizabeth is laid to rest.

And it'll get serious when talks about the budget for Charles's coronation begin.

Honestly, I know he probably won't be that popular and there will be various moaning and groaning, but I think it would take a lot to actually make Britain decide to upend their constitution and great rid of the monarchy. It's symbolic, but it's also pretty intertwined. I suspect absolutely nothing dramatic will happen, in this reign or the next or the next.

The Queen had 96 years with not one gaffe. This guy couldn’t make it past 48 hours.

And despite the absolute hysterics going on about that r332, it seriously won't matter in the slightest.

knowing how longevity runs in his family, I give him 15-20 years max on the throne. Prince George most likely won't be King until he's in his sixties if Charles and William both live and reign as long as Elizabeth did.

She had a few gaffes, r332. She recovered nicely though.

Well damn, r334, DL betting had him at 10 tops, so I guess things are looking up for Chuck already.

The last circumcised king.

wait, what r337? are you an Eton boy?

Elizabeth had the biggest gaffe of all with her complete misreading of Diana's death.

He came back to Buckingham Palace and he gets out of the car and shakes all the people's hands. All I could think of, he's going to get Covid and die and William will be king.

Wow, you are committed r340, and probably should be.

Datalounge people , check this out- the so called Good Old Days

The pen Charles used was a pen with a screw on cap. And I noticed he put that pen in his pocket when he was finished. Probably a Mont Blanc.

I truly can’t understand how Elizabeth raised her children so badly. She apps had no concern about the future of England if she allowed to heir to become such an asshole.

QE2 didn’t raise her children; she had staff for that.

^ She had a Cruise Director for that.

Elizabeth didn’t have time to raise her children. Philip tried to do what he could, but somehow the only child who managed to turn out decent is Anne.

Epic

🤣😂

[quote]r347 Elizabeth didn’t have time to raise her children.

Well, she was a Welfare Mom, busy sucking at the teat of the public coffers.

R344 Nothing wrong with Anne. Shame she wasn't first born. Edward turned himself around and Charles is Charles, not the best but could be worse

Charlie's MacToast

It's barely weird to hear King Charles and I am already normalizing Will and Kate as Prince and Princess of Wales. Doesn't take long, does it?. Of course the incessant media coverage helps.

[quote] Elizabeth had the biggest gaffe of all with her complete misreading of Diana's death.

Yes, that was a very low point in her time on the throne.

After watching how bitchy he was just signing the documents, I'm already not liking Charles. I can't stand his voice.

I thought that the facial redness & sausage fingers was temporary, but now it seems permanent.

I thought once of her sons was fathered by a horse breeder or something. That’s not embarrassing?

R343, apparently Charles prefers to use his own pen. I haven't had a close look at the pen but other fountain pen enthusiasts concur that it's a Montblanc.

Andrew is the one rumored to be Porchie’s son.

And the fact that the changing of the monarch has been a tradition for at least a millennium, r352. British history is full of Edward the IIIs and William the IVs, it's an expected thing.

Yes, it is embarrassing that you thought that, r354.

It's embarrassing that there is still any monarchy in the modern age.

Why haven't we seen Princess Pushy aka Princess Michael of Kunt? She always claimed to be very close to Queen Elizabeth, although the late Queen is said to have disliked her. Princess Michael got along much better with Charles. You'd think she would have made sure she was seen at his proclamation with her husband and the Duke and Duchess of Gloucester.

Maybe Charles banished her to the "colonies"?

[Quote]knowing how longevity runs in his family, I give him 15-20 years max on the throne. Prince George most likely won't be King until he's in his sixties if Charles and William both live and reign as long as Elizabeth did.

If Charles really lives another 20 years, William will also be in his sixties. So we currently have a 73yo King and the next two Kings will also be senior citizens when they become king. I really hate this. Would have been nice to get someone younger. William is 40 now and in his prime. WTH isn't he the new King?

Because that’s not the way that it works, R360, and hasn’t for over 1000 years.

Charles looks terrible. If he lives another five years I'll be surprised.

Seriously, I expect Charles to die or abdicate "for reasons of health" within the next 5-10 years. He looks sickly and older than his years right now, and that's with all the anti-monarchists being polite until Elizabeth is laid to rest. Once he starts facing real problems, he may really start to fade.

William will be reiging by fifty, either as king for real, or an official or unofficial regent.

[Quote]Because that’s not the way that it works, [R360], and hasn’t for over 1000 years.

Old white men everywhere. Stop complaining! It's always been like that and always will be.

That makes no sense, R364 - what do you mean?

I think r364 meant to use quotation marks:

[quote] Old white men everywhere. “Stop complaining! It's always been like that and always will be.” I'm seriously sick of this.

I think you're right, R366. It seems that proper punctuation has also been added to the list of things that now constitute "white supremacy".

R364 Why are you people so fucking obsessed with race? It’s You have turned being white into a sin, which is stupid beyond all reason.

Charles has the skin tone he has for the same reason you do…DNA. Holding it against him is IDENTICAL to forcing black people to the back of a bus because of their DNA.

The monarchy is hereditary. That is the fucking point of it. Wouldn’t matter if Charles dropped dead next week & William the week after that. There is ALWAYS a monarch and it moves down the line in a strictly regulated line.

Would you like to go and tell King Letsie of Lesotho that he’s only on the throne because he’s black? No, because that kind of racism isn’t fashionable anymore so you’ve directed it at white people instead. Bigotry is bigotry and you Americans have turned it into an art form.

Melania has also announced that in honor of the late queen, she will do Corgis shows in London, rather than donkey shows in Tijuana.

Exactly, R368.

[quote] It's embarrassing that there is still any monarchy in the modern age.

As if modern republics excel in competency, transparency and stability.

Kenya explains it:

I think Charles is going to do the dirty work (trim the deadwood). He has already said he is going to do this. He will do this so that hopefully William and George will have a problem free reign. I think there is another reason for this also. Many in the UK are living paycheck to paycheck and having tons of royals living off their dime is not a good optic.

R373- Yet the LOWER classes in the UK love the Royal Family.

Quick question—who is actually living off of the sovereign grant/government? Is it basically the older royals? I’m just wondering where Charles will slim down the monarchy… I think Harry and Meghan aren’t supported by it (although pops probably pays their bills out of his own pocket), but where else? A lot of these older royals are in their 80s—is he really going to toss them out? The look won’t be too good (although they are probably wealthy on their own). After the oldsters, there aren’t that many left.

The BRF needs a deep bench of working royals. Tescoes don’t open them themselves you know.

Camilla is watching Charles every move. Just a minute ago at church she pointed where to look.

NO. I think all us Americans shud vote on getting the monarchy out. Our goverment is the bestest

R378, put down the crack pipe.

R379 = so far behind he thinks he's first.

R376 they don't open Tescos. They open hospital wings. Queen Mary: "we are never tired and we all love hospitals."

[quote] It's embarrassing that there is still any monarchy in the modern age.

Why is it embarrassing? It's just a symbol of the nation in the form of a person with traditions. Most nations and even smaller entities have symbols and traditions. Even down to tribes and families.

The US has tons of symbols and traditions that serve to unify a people - or serve the purpose of unifying. Damn even sports teams have this.

Obviously for a nation that has been doing this a long time and whose present government grew out of a real monarchy there are legalities and more traditions involved.

People mostly love this. They enjoy it and they like how it makes them feel about their country, their tribe, their sports team.

Stop trying to trample down human nature. What are you some Marxist who prefers the tradition of squelching individuality, personal rights, and indulging in the tradition of imprisoning and murdering dissenters?

I am actually enjoying the Queen and UK attackers being schooled by real history and reality rather than their revisionist history. Especially the faux-academics showing their ignornace.

A French friend who became an American citizen was amused by the process. He said they try to convince you that America has a history and Americans are Special. They have an inferiority complex basically and overcompensate for the lack of real history. The only people as jingoistic as Americans were German Nazis. That strain of borderline hysterical "patriotism" terrifies quite rightly the rest of the world. USA!USA!USA! The only acceptable form of overt patriotism is at football matches. Soccer for you.

The fact is, after a few generations, the odds of your great-great-grandchild being in line for the throne (if you belong to an aggressively upwardly-mobile family) is almost equal to the odds of Prince William's son's great-great-grandchild. The BRF is known for marrying royals off to semi-commoners, in no small part to improve its own bloodlines with new DNA.

In theory, Meghan's kids are in line for the throne. A war & some nasty terrorist attacks could put one of them at their own coronation ceremony someday. Today's BRF carries so little of King George III's DNA, I doubt whether even Prince William's percentage could be precisely represented as a 16-bit floating point number (10-bit mantissa, 5-bit exponent, 1 sign bit).

It's kind of like how the House of Lords used to be, pre-Blair. Lords were generally white & wealthy, but it was about as close to a body of randomly-selected non-politicians as any western democracy has ever HAD. When the Internet was new, Commons had Lords advising them, because a few Lords actually WORKED for (or started & ran) "dotcom" companies because they had lives that existed outside of politics, while PMs in Commons were all professional politicians who were clueless about "teh Int3rweb5"

[quote] You didn't really miss much its mostly him pledging to protect the Church of Scotland

But St Giles is Church of Scotland and it’s Presbyterian, not Anglican. He’s not the head of the Presbyterian church. They don’t recognize humans as head of church.

R385 yes - Charles had to vow he would support the Church of Scotland's independence.

That poor chap. How many services did he already attend since the Queen died?

He is needed for the opening of a new BOX.

The only people - the ONLY people - who can’t see the point of monarchy in the “modern age” don’t understand it. Simple as that. There are a fair few republicans, even in the UK, but they argue from a position of understanding it but preferring a different system.

Every single nation has a Head of State, for a good reason. In America, the Head of State is also the political leader. To stop any chance of an tyrannical dictatorship taking over the USA has established a system designed (as far as possible) to prevent that…not least of which involves only two possible terms for one individual. Fine…it works well but is not perfect, as no system of government has yet to be.

In the UK we have separated the roles of political leader and Head of State. The HoS represents the people who elect the government of the day. The two institutions legally able to inflict violence upon us (under certain circumstances) - the police and the armed forces - do nor swear allegiance to the elected government, but to the Crown (aka the monarch aka the HoS aka the people). This preserves democracy in the most fundamental way by standing between a potentially tyrannical government and the people.

Having an an unchanging HoS when governments change provides an unmatched opportunity for continuing national identity. The country can come together to celebrate or mourn as one nations, undivided by political differences because it’s not the government that anyone’s looking to then.

We can also watch our history in action. The rituals, the pomp and the ceremonies have been handed down for centuries. The new King signed the proclamations in a hall that Elizabeth I signed hers in. How sad to have so little appreciation of history that you don’t think that matters.

Monarchy works. The most politically stable countries in the world are constitutional monarchies. The French desperately regretted disposing of theirs and tried, unsuccessfully, to re establish it. There’s a not insignificant Monarchist movement there today.

So, really, try reading up on these subjects before you live down to the world’s expectation of ignorant, arrogant Americans, eh?

R388 The British have a truly rare ability to laugh at themselves…basically unheard of in the US. That’s all that Monty Python sketch shows. It’s not a documentary 🙄

R359 Retired last month.

Just in time.

[quote]In theory, Meghan's kids are in line for the throne.

They're 6th and 7th and don't you forget it!

Charles continues to have massive tantrums over fountain pens:

Pens seem to be his kryptonite.

Thank you, R389, for that very edifying post. I think I had that sense of its place in the UK but you put that very clearly.

If William wants to hasten his ascent to the throne, he’ll let his children loose in Buckingham Palace with inkwells and pens. There’s no way His Majesty would survive the ordeal.

[quote]R393 Pens seem to be his kryptonite.

Also the deep mysteries of what day it is.

70 years of “training” and he can’t handle writing with a stray pen (?)

The public deserves a refund.

How many billions of pounds have been spent and they can't get a pen that works?

[quote]He has 5-7 years left tops.

Sorry to disappoint you, but both his parents lived to their late 90s. His grandmother even longer. He could be around for another 30 years.

I give Chaz III 10 -12 yrs in throne then he will let William have it.

The ill-tempered chap didn't even wait for his wife to finish signing the book. He just left her there and waltzed off without her.

The Queen was known for enjoying a prank…as well as for being thrifty. She must’ve spent her final months ensuring discarded ink pens were collected and distributed for all the ceremonial signing ceremonies Charles would have to attend.

[quote] How many services did he already attend since the Queen died?

Hasn’t set foot in a Catholic Church, I can tell you that!

[quote]Monarchy works.

Imagine believing this in 2022. Good grief.

What, R404, you don’t believe Charles was ordained by God to lead the UK (due to the purity of his bloodline?)

I don’t have to imagine it, R404 - it’s a fact.

R405 Supporters of monarchy don’t have to believe that and largely don’t. Nice try, you clueless cretin.

But, as we should all be very careful to remember…Americans who don’t understand their own history, let alone anyone else’s, are THE people to consult on constitutional matters.

🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

Hmmm, it's quite a difference saying "monarchy works" versus what R405 "ordained by God" and "purity of bloodline" and if you don't know it, no one can help you.

Americans always know best, R406. Even when they don’t, which is most of the time.

I'm the one who substituted the leaky fountain pen. Hahahahahaha.

R389 very well explained. Unfortunately, Americans have no fucking idea how our government works so understanding another governmental system is beyond their educational level.

There's also of course the problem of cultural cringe. Americans are so provincial, largely because our country is so isolated from the rest of the world. They don't learn other languages, don't go to other countries. Our news programs only cover stories in other countries if they're at war and the US is somehow involved.

[quote]Monarchy works.

Except for when it comes to finding working pens and signing crucial documents and stuff, yes, it works magnificently!

The pen scenarios make me think he is a tad OCD. I think the chap means well overall. I hope it all works out for him . I feel for him dealing with the awful son and daughter in law , as well as his brother . Exile the only answer for them

Yesterday I lost it when I couldn't open a trash bag. And I wasn't half a polite as CIII with this pen. Don't you queens pretend you don't lose it doing the most mundane things. It's human when tired and under stress.

"I can't bare this bloody thing" = "I don't want to be King"

Now that he's King, do you think he's going to start making some of his family call him Your Majesty and Sir in private?

The wives of the Dukes of Gloucester and of Kent were required to call Elizabeth II Ma'am. So, did Princess Michael of Kent. When they were alive, Sir Angus Ogilvy (husband of Princess Alexandra) and Lord Snowdon (husband of Princess Margaret) also had to call her Ma'am even in private. The spouses of her grandchildren had to call her Ma'am.

Margaret Rhodes who was a first cousin to the Queen and Princess Margaret said in an interview that when King George VI was still Duke of York, she addressed him as Uncle Bertie. When he became king, she had to call him Sir at all times and her aunt as Ma'am. When the Queen Mother was widowed, she was allowed to call her Aunt Elizabeth again in private, but when she became one of her aunt's ladies in waiting in the 90s, she had start calling her Ma'am again.

Charles is 73. He's got to be physically and emotionally exhausted with everything he's required to do during this period when he would probably prefer to be sitting at home with a whisky and contemplating how his life has been turned upside down.

If he’s not up for the job (or for handling a pen) (or even knowing the date), give it to someone who is instead of dumping 40 million pounds on his head annually.

[quote] Victoria wasn’t exactly svelte, [R187]. I saw one of her dresses at a museum in Bath and she appears to have been about five feet tall and entirely round.

She wasn't always fat. She was thinner when she was younger. Remember, she reigned for sixty years: her weight changed during that time, as most people's do one way or the other.

And they say Americans are fat.

Honestly, I’m LMAO. Between the pens, him firing staff in record time, and telling world leaders to take a bus to the Queen’s funeral, it’s clear the man gives zero fucks. Camilla’s ‘I need a stiff drink’ expression also kills me. It’s all right out of The Windsors, but the real thing is proving to be just as entertaining, if not more.

R420 Did he really tell world leaders to take a bus? I'm with you, his reign is going to be hysterical.

R421, indirectly, but pretty much. I think they reversed course now. Just the thought of heads of state on coach buses has me dying.

Maybe heads of state should just skip it.

Is that the kind of “slimming down” he’d like?

I’m getting a newfound respect and some sympathy for Camilla. He can’t be easy to live with. He literally shoved a leaking pen in her hand. She seems more like his babysitter/mother than wife.

God, I haven't laughed this hard in a long time. He really did pick his mother. That has been said a lot over the years. And Diana also needed a mother so that didn't work. When the queen became queen, she had to push him away at too young an age. That is probably why he is so weird. I liked the queen but KC is pretty amusing. I can't wait for the comedy shows to mock him.

Very many years ago when the only pressure Charles had was a loveless marriage and a mistress he should have married, gossip emerged about his petulant rage. He was staying in some grand house, but the bedroom window wouldn't open or close properly, so in rage he smashed it.

I agree it's the little things in life which cause us rage: big things we expect, but when tiny functions hold us up it's incensing. And of course pricelessly comical. It's just C3's bad luck it was caught on camera for the ages. The truth will out!

This is a man who when taking long foreign tours demands his own bed travels with him to be constructed in situ. C3's time at the top should be a lively watch indeed.

Charles and Diana are what you get when two children emotionally neglected by their parents collide as adults. Each party wants a nurturing all-forgiving parental figure who will take the pain away and make everything better. Camilla is this maternal figure for Charles but as she has no doubt discovered, nothing she does is ever enough.

I can't find a single photo of Charles and Camilla showing any kind of physical affection, or even a warm glance. Just the occasional giggle, like two old girlfriends.

r410 how about the Middle East? I'm sure those folks would gladly give up their ruling families.

Stop with your nonsense.

R428, I get friend vibes rather than intimacy vibes from their photos together, but then Charles is such an odd and unattractive character that he has never given off a sexual vibe to me even when he was younger.

R389- If anyone says ANYTHING that you Brits perceive as being in any way derogatory about the Royal 👑 Family you people get EXTREMELY huffy.

You don’t have ANY sense of humor in that case.

I'm truly shocked that Charles already had 100 employees at Clarence House. 100 fucking people working for the Prince of Wales. That's insane. Why would anyone need that many people? Get him a chauffeur, a chef, two housekeeper, a secretary and security. That's all he should be entitled to.

To be fair, he will now need a King's Keeper of the Royal Fountain Pens. High risk position.

One of Charles's flunkies should keep a box of Sharpie pens on hand at all times.

[quote] 'm truly shocked that Charles already had 100 employees at Clarence House. 100 fucking people working for the Prince of Wales. That's insane.

I imagine some of them were to service the building which is not a modern 4 bedroom ranch house. I imagine there is a kitchen to run. Imagine he had staff there.

Clarence House isn't just a residence, it's also a business office. A lot of the staff are clerical.

I would imagine Charles and Camilla are more like brother and sister than husband and wife after all these years. I never paid them much attention, but it’s been kind interesting seeing their dynamic. She is very motherly and he’s domineering. Whether she was in the picture or not, I doubt he and Diana would’ve lasted. I still believe Diana was deceived, she may have entered the marriage wanting to be Queen, but she probably didn’t bargain on the completely loveless marriage. In retrospect, the divorce would’ve been a good thing in the long term. I’m sure she never expected him to be crowned at 73. She was still young when they divorced, she could’ve made a great life for herself had she lived. She wouldn’t had to deal with crotchety Charles. I always thought Camilla was a strong, tough woman, but marrying Charles to play mother hen has changed that feeling. I actually think Diana was the stronger and tougher of the two.

But psycho, too, R437.

She wasn’t psycho, r438, that phrase is thrown around without any understanding of what it means. She was very troubled, no doubt, but she wasn’t psycho.

Yes, she had mental issues, but all the psycho, narc, BPD, bipolar labels that get thrown around on this board for various people are ridiculous. You can’t make a clinical diagnosis of people through media.

R439 You say potato, I say po-tah-tow.

Which I pronounce as “psycho” which we both know is not medically correct.

But this is a gossip site, not the ICD-10-CM Diagnostic Coding Manual.

I worked years ago for a Professor of Psychiatry who was a close colleague of the psychiatrist Diana went to but never bothered taking the advice of. She was diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder. Borderlines are incurable if they won't take the therapist's counsel and she didn't. So she ran to astrologers, fortune tellers, psychics, etc. Lot of good that did her. Meghan appears to be a borderline as well. So Harry married his Mummy and like his Mummy, he has now fallen prey to quacks.

Doria's got Harry "tapping" to soothe his idiocy. Is it working?

It is bullshit that you can't diagnose someone over the media. If you observe someone long enough you can because these people always exhibit the same traits. They refused to say what was wrong with trump and they knew he was narcissistic/psychopathic. It would have helped to have been educated about that kind of mental illness. We will be paying for trump for a very long time.

[quote] I'm truly shocked that Charles already had 100 employees at Clarence House.

Why are they shutting that house down rather than offering it to Harry and Meghan? If they were given a decent place (Frogmore Cottage really was the straw that broke the camel’s back) they’d probably spend half the year there.

Well, for one thing, they quit their jobs...

R445 Um, because they no longer live in the UK and aren’t working members of the Royal Family. You may have read that the “half in, half out” idea didn’t fly, either.

Put it together yourself. They don’t live there and they don’t work there and they aren’t getting the deal they want in order to make money.

It’s like low-income housing. You have to qualify to move in.

[quote] Yesterday I lost it when I couldn't open a trash bag. And I wasn't half a polite as CIII with this pen. Don't you queens pretend you don't lose it doing the most mundane things. It's human when tired and under stress.

MARY!

Perhaps T**** could send over a box of Sharpies to Charles.

The real reason by Charles was cringing.

Charles undoubtedly found a lot of pillowy comfort burying his face in Camilla's ample bosom throughout the decades. I can see it now, Charles coming up for air long enough to announce that he is "arriving".

Here is a cute shot of Charles at about age 8 with the face of a 35 yr old. Lol cute but not your average looking kid with that watermelon!

I've been thinking about this for days. God save King Charlie.

Long Live the King!

[quote]R447 Put it together yourself. They don’t live there and they don’t work there

But they’re family.

As the head of the family now, Charles should be making every effort to bring his sons and grandchildren back together.

Giving Harry and Meghan Clarence House would go a long way to healing the rift, and he would see more of them all.

Harry and Meghan don't want Clarence House. She wants to shoot her mouth off in California, get billions and merch her kids. Anyway the only interesting thing she's ever done in her life was marry into the Royal family so all she can get paid to do is bitch about them. Try going on TV to bitch about your relatives and you'll see how fond they are of you.

I thinks she’s starting to see, r456, that it’s not as easy as she thinks it is.

Weird to think that as recently as two years ago, all the people in the picture at R452 were alive.

[quote] Weird to think that as recently as two years ago, all the people in the picture at [R452] were alive.

It's an old photo with just 4 people. Two of the people died in their 90s. The other two are alive and well in their 70s. It's not like it's a photo of 8 people and a sniper or serial killer is picking them off, one by one.

Wait-y Katie looks like shit.

The skinnier she is the more old and haggard she looks.

Yes Megsy!

Yes she looked absolutely ghastly, R460.

Shocking!

Sure in 70 years his Mum had many leaky pens but knew how to behave like a Monarch but then Charles is not his Mum.

Princess Anne looks like she's genuinely grieving.

^ She's passing a stone.

I need to concentrate on my charities!!

I am reminded of Nigel's frustration over the miniature bread and large cold cuts. "It's a complete catastrophe."

I think Charles is ok with pedos as long as they stay under the radar.

[quote]r463 [italic] “The Princess of Wales was a vision of ethereal beauty” [italic]

I think that’s going a bit far. She’s good looking (for an Englishwoman) and well groomed, with nice clothes. But she’s basically just tall and even featured. Which is fine - more than fine - but it’s not beauty.

R424 She is a smart cookie, especially keeping her own house, where she retreated to today…without Charles. He went to Highgrove.

"Wait-y Katie looks like shit. The skinnier she is the more old and haggard she looks."

Most of the royals look as haggard as hell, Charles most of all. Many people his age look vital, but he looks elderly and collapsed.

The major royal ladies all look haggard, they're grieving and/or under stress because their whole world changed with a few hours warning, and while I agree that Kate needs to eat a couple of sandwiches I think she's going to get even thinner in the near future. Some people react to stress by eating less, and here she is with a new job, hew home, new politics, and the same old damn family feuds to deal with.

Years ago, I read that by the time Elizabeth dies Charles will be so old that he'll only be king for a little bit and then William will have a nice long reign.

So tragic he and Harry lost their mother.

Just remember, the same hypocritical, stick-up-their-asses BRF that hated Diana for getting press and going her own way also hate Meghan.

"Giving Harry and Meghan Clarence House would go a long way to healing the rift, and he would see more of them all."

I doubt the public would stand for Harry and Meg being given a mansion at the public's expense, there's no way they can pay for the upkeep on a place like that on their own dime, and Charles won't want to admit that he's supporting his useless and hostile son in luxury. So I really don't see how they can get the place, unless those two drop their pretense of independence and try to become working royals again.

And I don't think the public would be having that, either.

R474, you have absolutely no clue about what you're talking about.

Well, la dee fuckin’ da. I guess that settles it.

R455 What's the point in giving them Clarence House? They're never going to move back here.

I hope Kate gave Megs the frosty welcome she deserved.

I doubt Catherine has said a word to her. I would be very careful, knowing Sparkles' crap PR routinely feed America's crap media. It must have been soothing having the Susseces at the family dinner after the viewing...not really

It’s Prince Harry’s birthday today, so I wonder if we’ll see another walkabout or brother reunion.

But also, interestingly, the DM says that the previously worked-out schedule for this mourning period includes today as a day of reflection for King Charles, which he’s supposed to spend alone. He dropped Cam off last night at her house and went back to Highgrove by himself.

R479 True, if Kate said anything wrong, Megs would probably be feverishly texting the details to the press.

I bet the dreadful Omid Scobie is wanking furiously at the prospect of new gossip.

Good gawd but I love the Royals!

[Quote] So I really don't see how they can get the place, unless those two drop their pretense of independence and try to become working royals again.

Why do people think they're unhappy in California and want to move back? They now live in one of the most beautiful places in the world. Sunny weather, beautiful beaches and a friendly community. They have a lot of independence and Harry inherited a lot of money from Diana. Why would anyone changed this life to move back to a shitty country like the UK and live behind the walls of the Palace? Intrusive British press following you everywhere, your kids will be constantly harassed and followed and you exchange your independence and freedom for a golden cage.

I still think they've made the right decision. Who really wants do deal with a dysfunctional family like the BRF and the British press on a daily basis?

[quote]I still think they've made the right decision. Who really wants do deal with a dysfunctional family like the BRF and the British press on a daily basis?

Fine. Renounce the titles, stop the victim grifting, stop having your PR company shove your lives down everyone's throats on the daily, stop spreading lies, and go off to do what you said you were going to do, which was to create a private life for yourselves and your children.

It's all what the world want from these two losers.

Harry and Meghan would never make good working royals because they don't understand the concept of duty.

FFS, R83. Clue yourself in before you spew such ignorance again.

What “decision” do you think they made? The NEVER wanted to leave Britain or the BRF. They could not have been clearer in that presumptuous manifesto published on their website. They wanted to spend half their time in Britain being royal and half their time in America making money from that royal status. They were told “no” because this would violate the LAW and went against everything the monarchy stands for.

This ehole “they escaped the evil royals for a life of freedom” is a fantasy invented as damage limitation after they were told to fuck off and was believed by idiotic Americans.

It’s also AGAINST THE LAW for photographers to follow celebrities in the UK. Does America have such laws?

And the UK isn’t shitty, you bigoted xenophobe. At least we can send our kids to school without being frightened of them being shot in the head. At least we don’t make people sell their homes to pay for cancer treatment etc. etc.

R483 I don't think for a minute Meghan is unhappy in California. I don't think she ever wanted to live in England, which is fair enough, she's not from here and probably felt homesick.

But I can't see why Harry would want to live there permanently. He's not from there and has family and friends here. I don't just mean Charles and William (we know there's no love lost there) but he has lots of other family. He could have spent more time with his grandmother, who was clearly ill and towards the end of her life, but it's not like he could just pop over for a quick visit.

Their children would not be harrassed in the UK, as the media must follow certain rules. Notice William and Kate's children are never photographed when it hasn't been pre-arranged with the press. For example, their first day at their new school recently. You can look and look, but you won't find candid shots of them at any other time. The same would apply to Archie and Lilibet if they lived here.

But if they hate it here so much and hate the Royal Family so much, then they should renounce their titles (after all, why be a Duke and Duchess if you hate the BRF?) and truly live an independent life.

[Quote]They were told “no” because this would violate the LAW and went against everything the monarchy stands for.

It's also the 21th century and people want to live different lives. If Harry didn't want to spend all his time in the UK attending cocktail parties and cutting ribbons, why is this so bad? Why not make accommodations and let him live 6 months in the US and 6 months in the UK? Some of the Scandinavian royals made accommodations for their younger royals. Times are changing and the monarchy has to change also. If this is against the law, then change the law. I don't get why it had to be all or nothing. They could have just cut his salary or allowance. I doubt many people would have cared whether he was a full time or part time royal if they had kept this quiet.

I don't understand why they think they need titles in CA. We don't do titles here. Royalty means diddly-squat in this country. It's all pretty amusing.

^Maybe they don't want the titles. It seems the press is more obsessed with the title issue.

^ BS. Headlines have been changed because she objected to being called "Meghan Markle". Had to be "Duchess of Sussex".

R485, unlike who? Charles? Andrew?

Because they want to believe that, R483. Someone actually posted that once the kids get older, they’ll want to live in the UK. As if rich California raised kids will want that. They’ll be driving their Ferraris, hitting the beach and surfing all day; probably partying all night. H&M handled their exit badly, but I don’t think the thought behind it was wrong. However, you can’t be a part time Royal and expect the perk$. Rules are rules and they know this which is why they wanted to leave in the first place. They should’ve just shut their mouths when they moved, plain and simple. This way they still have strong ties to the family, can travel back and forth and everyone is happy. That’s where massive egos got in the way.

To me other than the money and maybe status, there is nothing enticing about being in the Royal family. No privacy, dealing with the public, mostly boring duties, stodgy traditions. I think all the women who turned down William and Harry had the right idea. They also came from money, so they got everything without the chains that comes with being in the Royal family. I’d rather marry Richard Branson’s son than William. The thing with Meghan is that she seems to love the attention and didn’t have those kind of options, which is why it’s kind of puzzling she wanted to leave. Plus, she married the former spare, much better position long term. Perks without all responsibilities to come. As for Harry, nobody really knows what he’s thinking. He could be homesick or he might love the hell out of living in California. Overall, I think their kids will have a more fun, carefree childhood than if they stayed in the UK.

Where to start, R488? Where to start with such stunning ignorance?

Firstly, the UK is a constitutional monarchy. This is a system of government. The rules for how the monarch, who is there to serve the people not enrich themselves, is laid out in laws that go back 400 years to the reformation. They are unelected so may not use their position to make money or campaign politically. To engage in either of those behaviours would cause a constitutional crisis and, almost certainly, end the monarchy because of a massive violation of the bond of trust between monarch, elected government and the people.

And if you think all they do is attend cocktail parties and shake hands then you are a moron. The monarch is the living embodiment of the British constitution. As head of state s/he represents the nation on the world stage, heads up hundreds of charities and organisations, awards hard work, valour and achievement with royal recognition on behalf of the nation, prosecutes all crime, heads up the armed forces…who pledge their allegiance to him/her, and so on.

But hell, you think that some bit part actress and her airheaded husband should have all the laws changed for them because the £2m given, free and gratis along with a house, paid for wardrobe (£1m in the first year), staff and 24/7 security wasn’t enough for them? How ridiculous.

Harry and his wife are absolutely within their rights to want a different kind of life. Sure. It’s the only one either of them will ever get and they are entitled to want to live it their way. Nothing wrong with that.

But they need to fuck off and do that then without deliberately trying to hurt an institution that means a lot to the UK, without the lies and snarks and sharing of private family information. They need to have the humility and sense to understand that the ONLY reason either of these clueless, brainless, talentless plonkers can make money from Netlfix and Spotify is because of their association with the BRF. No one would give a shit about them otherwise. If Markle was so fucking amazing how come she couldn’t even get her boring arse on the The Wendy Show before she met Harry?

As I read somewhere else (in relation to her) the other day - “What a difference a Prince makes”. Indeed.

Hope that’s clearer for,you.

^Did not really read all of this, but Harry is not the monarch. He's the spare and instead of making some modest accommodations and adjusting to modern times, they lost him and his family.

Then you”re an idiot, R495.

The royal family - inlcluding Harry - REPRESENT THE MONARCH, because s/he can’t be everywhere at once. The bows and curtseys Markle got were for the monarch, not her.

We are glad we lost Harry…his biggest crime wasinflicting that malevolent cunt on us, and we’re glad we saw beyond the PR to who he really is.

Sorry if I used too many long words for you, by the way. I do try to dumb down for Americans, but there’s only so far I can go.

I think that Meghan and Harry could certainly have been able to live in California part time, after all, some European royals do live elsewhere—if they didn’t force the hand of the BRF. Negotiations were ongoing but they decided to leak that they wanted different roles to the press. And that’s where the problems started. They should have just kept everything private until all the details were worked out. After they did that, everything exploded.

[quote]He could have spent more time with his grandmother,

He was invited to visit Balmoral in August and he refused, the little imp.

I don't want to see any crocodile tears from him at the funeral.

[Quote]Sorry if I used too many long words for you, by the way. I do try to dumb down for Americans, but there’s only so far I can go.

You don't seem to get that people just don't care anymore about your traditions. If younger people only want to work part time for this dysfunctional family, make some fucking accommodations. It really is that simple. The Scandinavians did just that for their younger Royals.

R495, you realize that a growing number of people want to abolish the monarchy. Now they’ll be under even more scrutiny. While I think sketchy behavior goes on behind the scenes, no doubt Charles laid out money for that CA house, they can’t be funding H&M while they live in another country making their own millions. They would expect security to be provided in CA that the UK taxpayers would be paying for no doubt. How is that tenable? 6 months in and 6 months living in a completely different country, who wouldn’t want that? So when George is King he can do 6 months in the UK and and 6 months in some other country? Ridiculous. I read Sophie and Edward wanted to be pt years ago and were told no. Rules are rules. You bend for one, you bend for all. They should’ve stayed or just accepted that’s the way it is. They want to have their cake and eat it too.

[Quote]He was invited to visit Balmoral in August and he refused, the little imp.

Not everyone can just drop everything to spend some time with a 96yo grandmother. Maybe he already had work commitments. He also has two young children back in California. I certainly couldn't just take a week off to spend time with my grandparents....even if they were dying. It's just not possible financially.

There's no point in bending yourselves in to pretzels trying to defend Harry and Meghan's behaviour over the years. They are both despicable, mentally disordered, selfish nobody's riding the coat tails of their former Royal aura. They are laughably incompetent on the world stage.

R501 = Shige in "Tokyo Story"

R501 and R499 is La Markle’s publicist. The spinning is hilarious! The “work part time” thing is/was a cover for MONETIZING THE MONARCHY. The duo wanted $$$$$$ and heaps of it....based on their titles and adjacency to the monarch.

Out and out corruption. We’ve seen this with politicians - and perhaps some of those in the monarchy w/o being so flagrant.

But Harry and Meghan are like The Trump Dynasty: greedy, lying, shifty, egocentric morons who demand EVERYTHING from everyone. Money. Attention. Status. Pity(as they are all continual “victims” whilst abusing everyone in their path). Deference. Rule-breakers (no laws or previous guards apply to them, oh no. They are Very Very Important People (VVIPs as the duo asserts. Ha!)

The sooner they are shut down, the better.

R496 You Brits are arrogant, idiot cunts. Fuck you all.

What "work" does Harry do? Flip burgers at the Montecito In-N-Out Burger?

[quite] [R496] You Brits are arrogant, idiot cunts. Fuck you all.

And you, my fellow American, are an unfortunate caricature of the American populace.

To those outside the US, I apologize for the ignorant, clueless, stupidity that some of our American brethren demonstrate.

We are seriously devolving....as R505 clearly reveals.

Well, I for one, DID make the time to visit with Her Majesty.

Harry and Meghan who don't have jobs couldn't go visit Harry's dying Granny? She managed to hop a private jet for a ghoulish photo op in Uvalde, Texas - a place where nobody knew who the fuck she was.

They do have jobs. They're running a charity, hosting a podcast etc. You may not like what they're doing, but they still work and have jobs.

Like Donald, he wants the job but resents being made to do it.

R510 don't be ridiculous

[quote] They do have jobs. They're running a charity, hosting a podcast etc.

You mean Archewell? The charity whose online presence is infrequently updated? And asserts control over the information from anyone who provides it? They claim legal dominance and ownership of any info proffered by anonymous internet viewers.

R510 are you also referring to the Spotify podcast? They required over [bold]two years [/bold] to pump out more than one podcast? My neighbor got a series up and running in four days.

The Harckles have time - and energy - for miscellaneous, inappropriate photo-ops in cemeteries and sites of school shootings [bold] and[/bold] can sue multiple entities out the wazoo, yet can’t make a series of podcasts in the space of years?

The math is not mathing. Make it make sense.

[quote] Like Donald, he wants the job but resents being made to do it.

Yes. Many similarities between Harry/Megs and Trump. Sociopaths.

I never understood Meghan and Harry's business model. They wanted to get rich while simultaneously running charities? Sounds very Trumpian to me.

[quote]R480 The previously worked-out schedule for this mourning period includes today as a day of reflection for King Charles, which he’s supposed to spend alone.

He can spend it pondering the mechanics of pen usage. Though really, it would be better if someone helped him with that.

[quote]R484 [Harry and Meghan] are just so basic; no discernible talent

Do you think ANY of the BRF are especially talented in ANY way?? They’re not even dazzlingly beautiful, which is how ordinarily lackluster people have traditionally gained attention and power.

Do you think without their family name and incalculable funds the Windsors would have blazed paths in ANY field? No. Big Liz would have been a housewife, or a secretary at best.

I suppose everyone would prefer a youthful, vibrant new monarch. Oh, well...

Charles is supposedly hosting the foreign royals (most of them are related to him) on Sunday at the Palace.

Why couldn't the monarchy give them part-time status? Besides all the other valid reasons stated, simply put, why would they want to? Harry and Meghan are loathed in the U.K. Their poll numbers are abysmal. The two are also whiny jackasses who never pass up an opportunity to play the victim.

Besides, as you stated, they're sooooo happy in California, right? They're sooooo successful, right? Why would they want a part-time situation when they have the world at their fingertips? I mean, it's not like they've burned even more bridges on the other side of the pond and lived beyond their means to the point their funds are almost dry, right? So, why would they even want to return to the evil monarchy that held them hostage and nearly drove them to suicide? Right???

R518 But where would they get one of those? This family doesn't do "vibrant."

Happy in California? Really? All these two do is find things to bitch and whine about. They are NEVER happy.

Because they're not meant to do "vibrant", r521, or exciting, funky, cool, sassy. Their job is to be dignified and respectful.

[Quote]Besides, as you stated, they're sooooo happy in California, right?

They asked for part time status BEFORE they left the RF and moved to CA, dumbass. There is no indication they're unhappy with their current situation and want to move back to the UK. This discussion started when someone suggested Chuck should give them Clarence House as a way to lure them back to the UK.

Asking for part-time status is in effect leaving the royal family, r524, and they were in Canada when they did that and have remained domiciled outside of the UK ever since.

Was it ever revealed which Russian billionaire's luxury complex they were staying at?

They demanded part-time status and then quit in a fit of pique by globally posting their manifesto with no warning when they did not get the answer they wanted. Presumably, they thought they could force the BRF's hand. Wrong. You cannot deign to express respect for the sovereignty of the Crown and then disrespect it when you do not get your way.

[quote]R523 Because they're not meant to do "vibrant" or exciting, funky, cool, sassy. Their job is to be dignified and respectful.

aka, reside in a living tomb.

Their job, in Marklese, is to make people "feel seen". Catherine, William, Anne, Sophie - they are not showy about it and, yes, they do overawe people, but they are not just in it for attention and adulation.

It's Edward and Wallis Simpson all over again.

We didn't like American divorcees marrying into the Royal Family back then and we still don't like it now.

Aka behave like a head of state, r527.

The part H&M hated about being a working royal was that "duty" part.

His fingers are so swollen and gross looking…

Edward and Sophie originally wanted to work & make money outside of the royal family. Edward's ideas didn't have much potential. I think he wanted to be an actor. Sophie was into something like public relations. They didn't make as much money as they had hoped and then settled into what they're doing now.

Are there threads about various seasons of The Crown? I’ve only started watching this week. The search function is a mess, showing many dental threads when I search The Crown

[quote] Edward and Sophie originally wanted to work & make money outside of the royal family. Edward's ideas didn't have much potential. I think he wanted to be an actor. Sophie was into something like public relations. They didn't make as much money as they had hoped and then settled into what they're doing now.

It wasn't so much about the money, but rather that Sophie made very indiscreet remarks about the royal family to a fake sheik who was actually a reporter.

Yeah, Sophie got totally screwed over by Murdoch's gutter press. And Meghan whines? Sophie ran her own public relations office before she met Edward. She's probably the most intelligent royal. She and Edward had to give up on their hopes to work outside the royal family which is why Meghan and Harry were refused by the Queen. It doesn't work.

R535, yes, the documentary I saw about E&S said that Sophie made some "out of school" statements about the royal family. IIRC, it wasn't even that bad (totally predictable), but the point was that you're not supposed to talk about what goes on behind closed doors.

Sophie is a good English and Welsh white gell. She is the right kind. Good breeding, good schools. Spent time on the continent and in Australia. Good skier. Not some American mongrel with a nose job who wants to rile up the darkies, eh? Pretend she’s one of them so she can be what they call “awake,” wot? Sophie can stalk and shoot a 14 rack in woolens and wellies in a light rain. Doesn’t mind not wearing makeup, doesn’t have to get done up like a tart. God I miss Diana

What?

Notice it wasn’t until the queen was dead that Murdoch media started gushing that Sophie was Elizabeth’s “rock.”

One never heard a peep about one, prior to the royal death. Sounds like a so-called PR blitz to me.

One might think perhaps a certain PR person might be looking to raise one’s status in the media. The Murdoch family is from Australia. Not unusual to think perhaps one who previously lived and worked in Australian doing so-called PR might have made friends with a certain ….. Australian media family.

That’s not really true, R540. I remember reading a lomg time ago that they were very close, and spent lots of time together in the Windsor archives because they were both fascinated with history.

I’ve never heard such a thing.

R542 So? I have. Here’s a Hello article from 2 years ago. No idea if it’s true but proves that the “close to Sophie” narrative wasn’t invented this week. I’ve reac similar elsewhere over the years.

I can't think why the Queen would have been closed to Edward's wife.

Right, because no woman is ever close to her mother-in-law.

🙄

Sophie has long been regarded as a safe pair of hands to the Queen: empathetic, a good listener, a sense of humor, and most importantly, discreet. IOW, Meghan’s polar opposite.

Over the years, HM told Sophie a lot. None of which was reported to Omid Scobie.

You’re overreaching, R540.

Rangers fans go all out.

I saw this on Twitter.

^ Ew, what’s next, a Precious Moments figurine?

You think you can’t already get one on Amazon, r550?

The Duke &Duchess of Sussex -along with Prince Andrew- will not be among the guests at the state event, which is being hosted by King Charles III on Sunday.

"Why couldn't the monarchy give them part-time status?"

I'm sure it would have been do-able, if Harry and Meg hadn't wanted to spend the other part of their time financially exploiting their royal status. If they'd just wanted to spend their time off living quietly in California, I doubt that would have been a problem, but licensing "Sussex Royal" crap and merching clothes they wore for official engagements was ever going to be part of their lives as working royals.

Sophie has been close to the Queen since her daughter was born. Everybody who even vaguely follows the royal family knows that. Only the Megsters' fangurls in the US don't. And the Megster's problem wasn't that she was biracial - if she hadn't been biracial she would never have received approval to marry Harry - it's because she's a tacky, divorced D list American actress past her sell-by date with a dodgy past. Had Harry married a black Brit, she wouldn't have had a problem. Megster's a typical Ugly American who thinks she can lecture the world with all the wisdom she acquired in Hollywood.

r515 i hate to break it to you but rich folks that start charities all use them to enrich themselves in one way or another.

Sophie and The Queen were friends. Friendships can form within a family, despite the odds.

Thank god we have r538 to sing the praises of a middle class white woman, historically they tend to be so overlooked.

R557 I feel sure you got lost in cyberspace while you were trying to post your hatred of white women on Lipstick Alley.

I’m not a fan of Meghan, but fuck, the anti-Americanism with some of these Brits shows she never had a chance. While I think she got away with a lot as a biracial woman, a fully black woman, Brit or not, would never have been readily accepted.

[quote] i hate to break it to you but rich folks that start charities all use them to enrich themselves in one way or another.

That's a very cynical thing to say.

R559 The Marchioness of Bath is black, half Nigerian, half English and she doesn't have a problem. But she's not an obnoxious American starlet desperate for publicity.

No r558 I'm just observant and intelligent. I'd be happy to hear you explain why my statement is incorrect.

R561, half black being the word, same as Meghan. Also this is HARRY we’re talking about, not some low level adjunct. I can’t even imagine the uproar had he married a 100% black woman. 😳

R563 Emma, Marchioness of Bath actually looks black, Meghan doesn't. When you don't look black, you don't get hit with racism growing up, now do you.

R510 Archewell is not a charity. It’s a foundation. Huge difference. Their most recent financial reports shows a pittance was given to charity. Legally, they can pocket 95% of their donations for “overhead.”

Have their accounts been published? I'm curious how much they're paying lawyers and publicists. Must be a fortune.

Well, Harry was taught by the biggest money-grubbing grifters in the world, after all. The BRF.

R564, I just looked her up, she looks Filipino to me. Mixed for sure. Neither she nor Meghan look like Viola Davis. Also, the pictures I saw of her.... she’d never be accepted as Harry’s wife. She seems like an attention seeker.

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R488 You bring the Scandinavian houses into play. Let’s see here. Sweden’s king took away the HRH’s of his five non-direct line grandchildren and declared they were private citizens. His younger daughter lives in America, but her husband refused all titles and lives as a private citizen. She goes to Sweden here and there to carry out some duties but isn’t monetizing her status. As a matter of fact, she’s pretty much a housewife.

Norway’s princess lost her HRH and cannot use her princess title. She’s the nutbag who cavorts with the “shaman” from Sacramento.

The Danish queen’s second son is active military, a brigadier general who is Denmark’s military attache to France. He gets to use his HRH.

And which path should the Harkles take, pray tell? No one in Scandinavia does the half-in half-out thing.

[quote] I just looked her up, she looks Filipino to me.

Mmmm, no.

She looks mixed at best, R571. She does not look like this.

R563 Low-level adjunct? Do you know how laughable that is? Here’s a pic of the low-level adjunct’s shabby suburban bungalow.

The “anti-Americanism”? Are you mentally ill? Have you seen the extreme bigotry aimed at our country this week by completely ignorant, uneducated Americans? Some of us have had enough.

Emma Weymouth, the woman at R571 has a white mother. I saw a documentary about Weymouth and her husband. They were living in a Downton Abbey situation (house needs to generate money). Weymouth's father in law is a real asshole. He lives on the property as do Emma and her husband (son of the asshole).

[quote]r574 Have you seen the extreme bigotry aimed at our country this week by completely ignorant, uneducated Americans? Some of us have had enough.

Oh, dear. Well, don’t join a radical online incel group!

Breathe.

The Baths are well known because of Longleat and the 7th Marquess being a complete nutter. The 8th Marquess has a bit of a tragic history with his first fiancée and business partner being killed in the same accident, They are a very interesting bunch.

You people should just shut up! You have no idea what it's like to be slightly black with a father-in-law who refuses give me unlimited access to his money and possessions. Until you do, just shut up!

Has Charles found a pen that doesn’t send him into conniptions yet?

R573, that’s lovely, but who cares? Harry is globally known and in line to the throne, how can you compare the two with a straight face. Plus, the wife is mixed and looks it.

R574, I’ve been on this board a long time and these BRF threads are definitely more anti American than the other way around. Read your own posts and the ‘Are you American’ troll. This is after all an American board. You need to chill out.

R577 here. I misremembered. It was a terrorist attack they were killed in. I had it in my head it was a building collapse which I suppose it was in a way.

R589 it seems that you have an issue with “the wife” being ‘mixed’ and looking it. Your bias is showing.

This isn’t an American board. It’s just that the majority of posters are American.

And a minority of them were triggered when it was pointed out that while the USA gets two representatives at the funeral, Commonwealth realms get up to 14.

Now go back to watching Downton Abbey and The Crown and picking through the pages of your dog-eared copy of Finding Freedom - then come back to lecture us on the British Monarchy and the Commonwealth.

Because, as always, you know best.

Weymouth’s FIL died two years ago. She’s the boss lady now.

No Sweetie, R582, it’s you that keeps insisting that she is a black woman and would be accepted without issue had she married Harry, which is BS. So let’s not get it twisted. And yes, it’a mostly Americans here (except for a lot of these threads) because it’s an American founded and operated board. It certainly isn’t a Royal forum. I can tell you that most Americans don’t give enough of a shit about the monarchy and all the boring traditions to lecture anyone about. Your haughty and bullying attitude is why Meghan gets a lot sympathy, especially from younger people.

God, this racial stuff is so boring. Can we go back to Chuck being an ill-tempered cunt?

The Duchess of Overseas will pull some kind of stunt during the State dinner Sunday since she's not invited.

She looks black. Meghan looks Jewish. In fact when there were first pictures of her with Harry I never suspected she was half-black, I figured she was a Hollywood Jewish Princess with a rich Daddy.

^ perfect Klan Granny comment, both racist and anti-Semitic

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Charles "military service" was also a joke. He captained a minelayer but was too stupid to pass the navigation tests. A captain who couldn't steer the ship. Does not bode well.

R584 this is not an American board. This is a board for gay men and the occasional lesbian. This is not a board for black women throwing hissy fits about their passing for white Kween Meghan.

I'm getting bored with anything Sussex now. I didn't like them, but now I just don't care. I think there's a lot of people that feel like me.

R591 Bugger off.

R591, a gay AMERICAN board. If you read other threads, you’ll know the majority want you and the endless Sussex threads gone. Hence, why Muriel has started deleting all the BRF threads the past few days.

American board, huh? I was posting on this board while I lived in France for years and years. Did Muriel's predecessor block Europeans from posting? I think not. Especially considering the world wide web was invented by an Englishman and his crew working at CERN.

[quote] Weymouth’s FIL died two years ago. She’s the boss lady now.

Good for her and her husband. The FIL had a putrid personality, really stifling.

[quote] Their most recent financial reports shows a pittance was given to charity.

Link to the financials, please

R584 let’s just pretend for a moment that this is an American board (not sure how you define that but, whatever) does that mean that you expect non-American posters to be held to a different standard? Most of us are used to making allowances for Americans so I thought it best to check, Sweetie.

Watched William and Kate working the crowd today. BOFFO BO ! A true 21st century act. King Tampon and his Rottweiler can not effectively market the Windsor brand. The PTB will ring down the curtain on them just like they did with Pope Benedict when his tea cups weren't selling. Charlie will probably use darling Camilla's health as an excuse to shuffle off. Noticed at the ceremony yesterday she started to go bobble head Katherine Hepburn like and the cameras cut away quickly. Give them 36 months tops.Kate is already picking out the new wall paper for Buck House.

Kate looks like she has wasted away in that first picture - hopefully the picture is just distorted. Alarming even for her.

He has to call out Andrew on the sickening public molestation or ALL his credibility is shot.

Doesn’t he have [italic]advisors??

R601, like with his surrogate father, Lord Mountbatten, Charles doesn’t care about sexual predators in his inner circle. He’s really an unlikeable character.