Queen Elizabeth II Cause of Death

I doubt if the Royals will comment beyond 'natural causes' so speculate away.

Someone floated the idea that it was post-COVID complications, something to do with the clotting disorders that can follow in the wake of the disease.

Are they positive it wasn’t, I don’t know, MURDER?

She’s old! She stopped breathing! End of story.

Fentanyl overdose.

Autoerotic asphyxiation, of course.

Vaccine-induced peripheral cyanosis - just take a look at her blue hands.

Takotsubo cardiomyopathy (broken-heart syndrome). The bitch granddaughter-in-law killed her and her husband.

I agree with what some others have stated, that the Queen and her family have known for sometime this was coming. I don’t think there was any disease as such, just a winding down for lack of a better phrase. I think all efforts were put into “propping her up” so to speak to get her thru the events of the last year. The bruised hands, the bloodshot eye, those are common in the elderly coming to the end. I saw it in my mother. At the end, as my mother’s doctor explained to me, the body starts to cascade, starts to shut down. I think that’s what happened Thursday morning - her care team noticed the change in her vitals and knew this was it. The cascade from onset can be quick, a few hours, or it could be a day or two. With my mother, similar to HM, she was lively, animated, chatty on the Tuesday with her siblings coming for a last visit to say goodbye. By Wednesday afternoon, she was in and out of consciousness but still lucid when awake. By Thursday morning she slipped into that deep sleep, and passed around 1PM that afternoon. Like one of my aunt’s remarked after, given how animated, chatty she was just 2 days before, “the candle always burns brightest before it burns itself out”.

The Queen was old, her body wore out, she was ready to go, bless her heart.

She was just 96-years-old. Definitely foul play.

peripheral vascular disease.

She will be missed.

[quote]Queen Elizabeth II Cause of Death

This veiled threat killed the Queen!

[quote]“I think forgiveness is really important. It takes a lot more energy to not forgive,” she says wisely. “But it takes a lot of effort to forgive. I’ve really made an active effort, especially knowing that I can say anything,” she says, her voice full of meaning. And then she is silent. She breathes in and smiles and breathes out and says, “I have a lot to say until I don’t. Do you like that? Sometimes, as they say, the silent part is still part of the song.”

No idea what happened.

Full blown AIDS.

Lady C stated the Queen had bone cancer. That could explain her mobility problems and “discomfort.”

Bone cancer, especially in the spine or long bones, would have long ago left her unable to walk. The pain is unbearable unless fully sedated. Also bone cancer is usually a result of another cancer metastasizing

I'd just say being 96, but then again, that's not necessarily always a factor. Just the expected reason.

This is why it's easy to get away with murdering the elderly. People will just say "they were old." I wonder how many "elder deaths" were actually homicides by greedy heirs looking for an inheritance or insurance payout.

My favorite pic of her late Majesty at R13!

r18 Lady C specified that it was "the less painful" of two variants of Bone cancer. I don't know what that means, but since you know a bit about bone cancer, does that ring a bell? Do you know to what she could be referring?

Still Powerful

Hip bone? After a fall after tripping over the dogs, I guess. Then the corgis killed her.

[quote] The bruised hands,

That’s not bruising, R9. Both hands, including the fingers, are purple. That’s cyanosis, the circulation to her extremities shutting down.

Maybe DTs

[quote] She was just 96-years-old. Definitely foul play.

Exactly! She wasn't even a hundred yet. I had whiskies older than that.

R24, I'm an ICU nurse and hadn't seen that picture before. That doesn't look like cyanosis to me, cyanosis is the pale blue tinge that you see when tissues are temporarily short of oxygen. That looks more like bruising, or worse... what we call "mottling". "Mottling" is what you see when the tissues are so deprived of oxygen that cells actually start to *die*, which does mean that the body is about to shut down.

It might just be bruising, possibly from repeated IV starts or blood draws, because you don't usually see the mottling I'm referring to on people who are still up and walking. Usually you see it when a person is in the ICU on a ventilator and other means of extreme life support.

Lady Colin Campbell indicated it was some form of bone cancer.

Lady C. C. is not a reliable source of information.

Lady Colin Campbell should focus on her shenis and STFU.

I'd like to think she caught a glimpse of the huge cock under Major Johnny Thompson's kilt...and she just exploded into a million little stars twinkling forever in the horny DL sky...

Clearly something insidious struck down this vital and strong 96 year old in her prime.

When is Mitch The Blue Pawed Turtle going to die?

Dare we whisper the possibility of monkeypox?

[quote] I agree with what some others have stated, that the Queen and her family have known for sometime this was coming.

Ya think?

I'm glad that Buckingham Palace released the message that essentially said the queen is going to die soon. If they hadn't it would have been more of a shock.

I think it was a sikmple case of CHF Congestive Heart Failure. I think this also caused breathing diffculties, etc. "Mobility issues" was a catch all designed not to alarm us. If they'd told us she had aweak heart and problems breathing (which are linked) we'd have been relentless with our handicapping the last day. This way, she quietly slipped away. ON TV today someone said that they never expected her to return from Sandringham. That is what she wanted.

I defintitely don't think it was death by misadventure as the British would say.

[quote]This way, she quietly slipped away. ON TV today someone said that they never expected her to return from Sandringham.

That's quite shocking because she died at Balmoral Castle - about 450 miles north of Sandringham.

OMG, that means someone moved the body, and quite a long way too!

Monkey Pox

OMG, I wonder if they used Major Johnny Thompson as a "honey pot" to lure her to Scotland.

Because, I would follow that big Scot honey pot anywhere...

^ OMG, just look at the size of his sporan!

R41 Thompson does have the better legs

She was fighting an oil rig fire in the gulf Rose.

As others have pointed out, in the photos from Tuesday, her fingers were blue a clear sign off peripheral cyanosis which means a lack of oxygenated blood flowing to the extremities. Given how noticeable it is in the photos and added to that her swollen legs I would suggest the Queen was undergoing pallative care. The lack of oxygenated blood likely would explain why the Queen was very fatigued in recent days & it's likely she died of a massive stroke due to lack of oxygenated blood to the brain.

That Truss woman, obviously.

A dying woman with no oxygen flowing to her extremities kept up her state duties to the bitter end, having dinner with visitors, even formally asking a new PM to form a government? That's hardcore.

It's too bad she couldn't hang on for another 4 or 5 years, maybe make it to 100 or 75 years on the throne. And of course spare the ghastly experience of seeing more of Horsemilla Cuntwhore the hideous.

R47 Yeah she was still smiling right up til the end, even with purple fingers. Bless her.

I meant they said they never expected her to return from Balmoral.

Her doctor warned her a midday gang banging would be too much for her heart but the Queen could not go without.

Has Gil Grissom been to the scene yet?

We're on it!

Have the palace staff recovered any massage tables or disco lighting?

[quote] Are they positive it wasn’t, I don’t know, MURDER?

I'm due to visit a niece who lives in in Aberdeen, Scotland, which is right near Balmoral--I promise to get to the bottom of this!

I guess that personally I didn't read into the British news coverage and the Royals' communications that the Queen was being seen as that much closer to the end than I'd thought about. I started to wonder if they were trying to prepare the media public when the BBC covered the Jubilee goings-on this past summer and editorialized that we were witnessing the Queen essentially saying goodbye and a close to her participation part in British royal history. But then the other day when they broadcast that her family members were rushing to her residence to be with her, that's I guess when it really sank in for me and many others that this was it. What helped make it seem so weirdly unreal still, was those photos of her meeting the new Prime Minister just a couple of days before, and the fact that she...she just seemed, as so many have said...so constant, so always dependably "there." Then Thursday weather- and news-wise turned out to be as royally gloomy, sad and somber, as her celebrations and few appearances during this past summer's Jubilee Weekend seemed so joyful, happy and sunny. It was as if, her pending end notwithstanding, even in these last few months she willed herself to remain in place for her subjects and family for the Jubilee celebration and then to usher in one more new Prime Minister. She really appeared to be a very strong-willed person. RIP.

That photo at r43 makes it clear Maj. Johnny must not be a very tall man, because the queen is tiny, but he does not loom over her quite so much.

The bruising on the hands: On blood thinners? Many of the over 80 set sport similar markings

You just know they propped her up with the best medical care for years. Space age stuff...

Classy as ever

Blue patch near her shoulder too.

Autopsy report: The most aggressive grade chondrosarcoma which metastasized in the lungs, exacerbated by the booster jab and covid infection. Her one-way flight to the hereafter had been booked when the pandemic began.

RIP, your majesty.

I think R37 is on to something. The swollen ankles and feet are usually a pretty good indication that the heart is losing its ability to pump, and at her age with a weakened heart she probably suffered from atrial fibrillation for which she would be on blood thinners for stroke prophylaxis. That would explain the severe bruising on her hands from any blood work or IVs.

25 years later, Diana’s deathbed curse finally caught up with Liz. Who knew it would happen so soon. Tragic.

Liz Truss. Nivichok. Royal underwear.

There’s only one Liz in charge now.

R62, the doctor regularly checks my friend’s 90 year old mother for swelling in the ankles and feet. It’s an obvious sign of congestive heart failure.

Lady C was the first to tell us that the Queen had died, long before they announced it. That makes me inclined to believe she has good sources—probably a Lady-in-Waiting or close aide.

Lady C might have been referring to leukemia

[quote]That Truss woman, obviously.

Exactly uses a hernia medical-device for a surname?

She's almost as bad as that Thatcher cunt!

[quote]Queen Elizabeth II Cause of Death

Club drugs?

Huffing?

Pillow over the face by Camilla Parker-Bowles?

My first reaction was that it seemed awfully sudden, especially given how she was able to receive the new PM on Tuesday. R9, however, seems to offer a credible scenario.

I want my cutlet....mmmummmmmmm..ehhh

She seemed poised on camera. I can picture her doing a cooking show.

r24, that looks like the heebie jeebies that Mitch McConnell has

Two things piqued my curiosity: The queen's physician was a gastroenterologist. That's unusual for a specialist to be her GP. So she must have had some difficulties with her GI tract either upper or lower or both. Second thing: I have noticed that she has been losing weight very gradually in the past two years. Especially the past year. THey have tried to camoflauge this but it was noticeable. So this brings me to speculate about whether or not she did have some form of cancer and there was nothing much they could do about it. Certainly chemo or surgery once she hit her 90's was prohibitive. She could have also had Congestive Heart Failure as well, but I think Cancer is always a possibility. I am also curious about what some of you were saying about COVID's after effects. Can someone elaborate?

^ Congestive heart failure would have caused swelling and puffiness. I wondered about cancer too but the weight loss did not seem that drastic, ie skeletal. Amazing she was standing not 48 hours prior.

Her hands were discolored in the video with Paddington back in July. Just zoom in on her hands at the below link.

I would have preferred the Queen any day over Charles and Horsemillla, but she wasn't going to live forever. Although, a few more years to at least 100 would have been nice.

Congestive heart failure, surrounded by doctors, doesn't kill you in 2 years. Only poor, fat, old people die of CHF this fast these days.

She knew she was near the end. I believe those last few pictures of her meeting the new PM, old and frail, her wrinkled hands ravaged by numerous recent needle pokes with no efforts made to conceal them from the camera, still beaming to welcome the future with joy and optimism, was her farewell to the world.

[quote]She seemed poised on camera. I can picture her doing a cooking show.

She certainly had the wardrobe for it!

R79 you are SO wrong. I have had several family members with CHF and what you say is completely false. My own mother who was not fat had it for several years. She had a pacemaker, then later with the advances in technology she had a defibrillator implanted. She had breathing difficulties towards the end as well. Shortness of breath and arrythmia are symptoms, and their is a "wasting effect" over time.

R79 said CHF doesn’t kill most people IN TWO YEARS. Sounds like your mother’s experience confirms this.

Heartbreak ---> covid ---> bone cancer ---> lung cancer ---> hypoxemia ---> hypoxia ---> kidney failure ---> multiple organ system failure ---> death

[quote] Are they positive it wasn’t, I don’t know, MURDER?

I was barely involved!

She was clearly pushing herself to get through the first audience with the new PM--she had known that was coming for weeks, and she was probably focused on this being her one last big duty to get through. Maybe even the doctors knew this and helped her push through it. Once she was done, she could let herself die.

She probably stroked out.

Well she was way too fat for it to be anorexia!

She started going downhill when they made her stop drinking.

I think Lea Michelle had something to do with it...that fuckin' bitch!

I wonder how it works in heaven, does she get to see and communicate with past kings and queens like Queen Victoria etc?

Yes, R91, we're organizing a celestial coke orgy even as I type!

I can't believe people in 2022 still believe in a heaven. It's the epitome of what's wrong with this world. Magical thinking and believing bullshit with no proof.

Haters gonna hate @R93.

She died in Scotland. Nicola Sturgeon. Think about it.

My mother was diagnosed with it and had CHF for about 7-8 years. Maybe longer but undiagnosed. Periodically she would get an irregular heartbeat. She'd have episodes of shortness of breath associated with it. I don't know where you get 2 years as the period of the Queen's illness. For all we know she may have been treated for any number of things, even a mild stroke, or Heart problem without them announcing it to anyone.

[quote] Autoerotic asphyxiation, of course.

Apparently when the cause of David Carradine's death was announced, she turned to Philip and started singing "When you gotta go, that's the way to go!" from BYE BYE BIRDIE (her favorite musical, of course).

Lady C is a very reliable source of information.

R18 She said the lesser form of bone cancer. Leukemia? Her hands look like she’s had IV’s not CHF.

If there's one thing Lady Colin Campbell knows everything about, it's oncology.

R100 She has connections. Don’t be ignorant. She didn’t diagnose it.

r101, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I would just love to sell you....

If there's one thing Lady Colin Campbell knows about it's how to tuck her shenis between her legs.

Not cancer.

The Reverend who was with her last weekend. Claims she was chatty , joking an asking about the Ukraine. WTF happened to cause her death in 24 hours?. Reminds me of when they found Pope John Paul. One suspects skull duggery!

[quote] I can't believe people in 2022 still believe in a heaven. It's the epitome of what's wrong with this world. Magical thinking and believing bullshit with no proof. R93

I'm an atheist but I don't mock people for having religious views. Live and let live, Mary.

R106, the damage that religion has done to this world speaks for itself. I'll live and let live when they do...and our side doesn't have a body count.

r107 Oh please do just start another thread on this topic.

We could use one more.

Ketamine overdose.

Why would they lie about the health of a 96 year old woman? Her health doesn't exactly impact the financial health of Britain or anything really.

Lady Colin had a birth deformity which she described as kind of a fused vagina. Something like that or maybe fused labia. She did not have male equipment. But because of it her family raised her or at least dressed her as a boy. When she came of age her grandmother took her to a doctor and paid for what it seems was a relatively simple operation to fix it. She talks about it in one of her youtube videos.

Why is her death such a state secret? Sheesh, just give the bloody cause already. It’ll put everyone at ease.

I started counting 2 years when there were sporadic announcements of the Queen's health problems, around the start of the pandemic.

She started going downhill a couple of years ago. If you look back at the Covid speech at the beginning of the pandemic, she looked magnificent for a woman in her early 90’s. There was news that she was advised to stop drinking to build her strength for the jubilee, so she was probably on medication so she couldn’t drink. Then came gradual weight loss which suddenly increased. It all point to some form of cancer.

As others have mentioned, once you get to a very old age, chemo etc is pointless, you have to die of something. You can be ill but get bursts of energy, enough to do a little, which sounds very much how the Queen was in her final weeks. Decisions on if she would attend jubilee events were made at the last hour.

Spontaneous human combustion.

It was the lesser form of bone cancer.

Camilla has early parkinsons, and Charles suffers from edema. Short reigns are the norm anyway. Anything over two decades was always considered exceptional.

At the Queen's extreme age, it was always a question of what took her first: sheer age or the cancer. So it would have been lightly managed. However, it was completely right for Lady Colin Campbell to allege that the stress of the last 3 years may have weakened her and induced it. It certainly poisoned her last years. That being the Andrew circus, and Harry & MM circus. Campbell claims that the absolute killer was MM's lies of racism – this directly hit at the Queen's work in building Commonwealth diplomacy which was a passion for her and to which she had devoted a lifetime too.

Even in her self-focus and selfishness, clearly MM had no comprehension of the scale of this, and the commitment, and perhaps even SHE would not have peddled such a lie had she understood the ramifications of it. The fact Harry didn't stop her, knowing his grandmother's work, highlights his own stupidity, deep ingratitude, gross selfishiness, and the reality he is in MM's thrawl.

Will they eventually say the official cause of her death orillness? or they don’t rally have too?

Didn't the Queen's father, George VI, die of lung cancer but at the time of his 1952 death the official cause was given as a heart attack. The truth came out some years later.

Lady C seems to be or have been, what is now called "intersex."

Does Lady C's Manpussy stink?

R93 You must be fun at parties.

Lady C

I've been getting treated for cancer for quite a while. To me, she has the appearance with someone with cancer. There's a look that patients develop near the end. I think her that the discoloration of her hands was due a bad attempt to insert an IV line. It's happened to me and I've had huge bruises on my hands from a bad jab. I don't think we'll ever know for sure.

Cholera.

Clearly she died in childbirth. The father is Boris Johnson and the child is retarded and will be kept locked in a turret at Balmoral Castle for the duration of its life.

I believe she may have had inoperable cancer, but who knows… cancer is very slow moving in the elderly because their metabolism has slowed down quite a bit. It’s obvious I guess that she didn’t have chemotherapy. This is why sudden weight loss is troubling in the elderly. Yes, they don’t eat as much but they also have a slow metabolism, so weight loss should be gradual. Didn’t her husband die of bladder cancer? I think he had it treated, right? He was hospitalized a number of times, whereas she was only hospitalized once that we know of.

R123, apologies, I didn’t see your post until after I posted. I want to send you best wishes and my hope that you are recovering and well. Cancer is so tough, I can’t imagine what you’re going through.

[quote]The father is Boris Johnson and the child is retarded and will be kept locked in a turret at Balmoral Castle for the duration of its life.

Golly! So like Muriel then?

My uncle was 95 when he died. The Christmas before his death, he indicated that he wanted me to come see him...which was a little unusual, as I'm not that close to him. He wasn't sick, always seemed to be alert and in good health, but he did slow down a bit in his last two years. Then, he was in the hospital. I think he was just ready to go. Having enough of life at an advanced age is a good reason to go.

When her father died, he was in his 50's. Technically maybe he did die of a heart attack, but he was terminal with lung cancer.

Her father died of the speedball of opioids and amphetamines his doctor gave him to make sure his death was first reported in the respectable morning Times instead the the cheesy afternoon tabloids. His doctor confirmed this years later before he died.

R131 that was her grandfather.

Oh right, r132, I stand corrected.

They’ll probably just say she died of the same thing Philip did — old age.

R131 Incorrect. That wasn’t George VI, Queen Elizabeth’s father. It was George V.

I've had those red things in my eyes before. Looks worse than it feels. Can be caused by blowing your nose too hard. Sometimes, no apparent cause.

Catch up, r135.

Horsemilla has parkinsons? Too bad it isnt fast spreading cancer.

Her heart failed. it is obvious.

The usual

The legal death certificate requires a medical cause of death. WTF was listed? "Old Age" is not acceptable.

She died of over stimulation. You know, at a certain age you cant keep putting peanut butter on your nipples for the dogs to lick off.

"Old age" it was. And Philip's occupation was listed as "Queen's husband," lol.

[quote]Lady Colin had a birth deformity which she described as kind of a fused vagina. Something like that or maybe fused labia. She did not have male equipment. But because of it her family raised her or at least dressed her as a boy. When she came of age her grandmother took her to a doctor and paid for what it seems was a relatively simple operation to fix it. She talks about it in one of her youtube videos.

Oh yes, a rare birth deformity that caused her to be raised as a boy.

Just the way all beauty pageant contestants were forced to have breast implants after an unfortunate car accident.

R144 Her labia was fused. Her parents wanted a male child and even forced her to take male hormones.

Oh yes, as one did with one's child in that era.

And that also explains why she alone knows everything that goes on in the royal household.

Caitlyn had to pay for her "fused labia".

Her grandad George V was murdered by his doctor with an injection of cocaine and morphine. Wouldn't be surprised if Lilibet got the " Windsor Nudge".

At the time of the death of George V, the publication of afternoon/evening newspapers were considered less respectable and somewhat tabloid-like, in contrast to the staid long-established morning newspapers.

On the evening of January 20, 1936, Queen Mary made the decision and told the King's personal physician Lord Dawson of Penn that he should "not prolong the King's life unnecessarily", which the doctor understood to mean that he should end it.

According to Dawson's notes released in 1986, Dawson then administered the lethal dose of drugs, peace had descended upon the King within 15 minutes and 25 minutes later, he was dead. With the whole business transacted before midnight, which allowed the preferred newspaper "The Times" to break the news of the King's death in its morning edition.

From the physician's notes: “The determination of the time of death of the King’s body had another object in view, viz the importance of the death receiving its first announcement in the morning papers rather than the less appropriate field of the evening journals.”

The whole newspaper business aside - I'd be glad for the comfort of a little morphine or other injections myself when the time comes.

^Bugger off.

^ George V had a poor disposition at the best of times, but he was seriously injured in several horseback riding accidents, the worst of which was in 1915.

By January 20, 1936, he was 70 years old and had lived with chronic pain for decades - he was ready.

And so were those around him - I'm quite sure.

Yes r151 I recall reading that when inspecting troops during WW1, there was on incident where the horse he had been riding threw him off and partially rolled on him.

And the drug combo assisting his "peace" was actually heroin and cocaine. Medical grade of course.

R123, all the best to you.

R123 I hope you are on the mend X

Medical grade cocaine and heroin sounds awesome.

The Queen was very sick already in July. This breaks my heart, yet again.

[quote]"However, the Queen personally intervened to prevent an official image being taken, apparently advising the couple that she had a bloodshot eye and did not want to feature in any pictures for public consumption."

Be hard to find a photo of me without bloodshot eyes

I sometimes wonder how Horsemilla can even manage to stand up straight considering she must have just been drinking.

Considering Charles' temperament,

I'm beginning to think Camilla doesn't drink nearly enough

Myb friend is a doctor. He said, the briuses on the Queen's hands were probably from blood thinners. Couple that with them telling her to stop drinking alcohol and I'm of the opinion she had congestive heart failure arrythmia and probably died of a stroke. As he told me, "Better to die of a stroke than live after one at her age. She would have been incapacitated and it would have caused a crisis .

Only poor, old people, living in solitary desolation get stroked out and severe disability. The Queen was surrounded by good doctors 24/7, they could treat her right away. World leaders are not the hoi polloi.

r160 a stroke is a stroke. Even rich old people have them.

Yes, any people can have stroke, but not every person get severely disabled or drop dead from it, factually speaking.

But even rich people can r162

I knew a woman who looked like this back in my hometown, and the doctors said it was because she stopped breathing.

But fat chance they become bed-ridden invalids like lonely, fat, poor old people. QEII didn't die from stroke!

Fountain pen in her jugular..

There were whispers of a royal intervention, so to speak, with Meghan tasked with the part of reciting ‘Please, God, I’m only 96’, which reportedly backfired spectacularly.

An acute form of leukemia is my guess.

Her death was not unexpected but the suddenness and timing of it caught them by surprise. Reportedly she was receiving treatment but her age, especially, was against her.

It was not Leukemia. Stoppit.

"Only poor, old people, living in solitary desolation get stroked out and severe disability."

Oh bullshit! I'm an ICU nurse, and strokes can hit anyone who's unlucky enough, even if they seem to be in excellent health, and although medical interventions are better they can still leave people disabled even if they get treatment as fast as possible.

Modern medical science can only do so much for a large hemorrhagic stroke, for instance, and if the bruising on Her Majesty's hands was really due to "blood thinners", that is the kind of stroke she would have been likely to have. And I agree, if she'd had a large hemorrhagic stroke, better not to survive it.

Testing

She died unexpectedly after a sudden stroke while suffering terminal bone cancer.

Actually, if she'd been declining and was on blood thinners (atrial fibrillation is common in the elderly and requires "blood-thinners"), it's entirely possible that she was gradually failing... and then had a major stroke. That would explain why the family spent the last few months being ready to move fast, and still hardly any of them were able to get to Balmoral in time to say goodbye.

I'm glad Anne was there. She's been exemplary through all of this.

R93 what’s wrong with the world Is people like you who are spiritually dead and think they know all there is to know.

IF one does not believe in heaven, one will stand no chance at all of going there. It's a proven fact. It's like believing in fairies.

People all over the world have different spiritual beliefs about death and afterlife. We don't need to attack each other for not believing the same shizz.

She had a form of bone cancer

"A bone condition"

The queen was 96, she lived a long life, but obviously wasn't going to live forever. Geez, Anne is 72, a senior citizen herself, some people don't even make it to her age. So no need to act like a 96 year old dying is some tragedy.

r175...proven fact ? PROVE IT....and I say that as a Catholic.

Princess Charlotte, while reaching for the pillow, whispered in the ear of her sleeping great grandmother, “time to move it along toots!”

Look. She was ready to go.She knew in her heart she would not come back from Balmoral. When you get to a certain point, you know. She got through the Jubilee and that was the end of it for her. She said, in effect, "Well, that's a wrap!"

[quote]Lady Colin Campbell claims the Queen’s condition was brought about in part by the ‘tremendous stress’ she has been subjected to over the last three years.

So, it [bold]was[/bold] Meghan's fault, then?

Meghan was back in the UK. Just having her in the same country was enough to kill her.

One has endured the early death of one's father, an abdication, a war, the blitz, Wallis Simpson, fifteen prime ministers, Margaret, Diana, Fergie, Camilla, Mrs Thatcher, Tampongate, Dockyard Doris, Mr Trump, and a pedophilic son, but Meghan Markle, no, that's just far too much for one to bare.

^ Dubonnet .

It’s a shame that she couldn’t enjoy a drink in her final months, especially given she was dying anyway.

If Elizabeth was subjected to horrific stress in her last year's, it's more likely to be because of Andrew's disgrace than Harry's idiocy. Her favorite son has been rejected by the public and his siblings, and she couldn't fix things for him.

A doting mother takes that sort of thing to heart, but a grandson marrying badly - not so much. She was a very patient woman, she knew the divorce would happen soon enough, no need to fuss...

Lady C's full of shit. Family drama and external bullshit don't induce asmuch stress in the elderly as one would think.She was definitely missing Phillip, but even there they had begun the task of "distancing" to dull the reality of his absence. She missed talking to him, I'm sure, missed the sound of his voice. Missed coordinating schedules, etc. but as for family drama, elderly folk reach a certain point where they "let go" of things. They care, but they have little energy to spend on things. Even Andrew. No one knows better than she did, how often Andrew made a mess others had to clean up. She'd probably get upset in the moment, but she'd not dwell on it, get exercised by it and waste precious energy on it.

The butler did it!

R189 This old racist tranny been paying his rent by kissing Lilibets arse for the last 30 years. Yet he couldn't get off he withered tranny arse and que up to pay homage to his purported "diety". Bad actor rather.

If Lady C were as connected as he/she makes out he/she is, he/she'd be invited to the funeral

DL should like Lady C, she loathes Meghan Markle

Lady C loathes Meghan Markle because she's jealous that she only married a minor aristocrat, and for less than a year, but Meghan bagged an heir to the throne. Meghan has everything Lady C has always wanted, including a real vagina and two X chromosomes. Lady C's only rebuttal is to turn on the snobbery and chastise Meaghan's every royal etiquette faux pas. Lady C did the same thing to Diana, out of jealousy

Say what you want, but Lady C broke the news of the Queen's passing before ANY NEWS SOURCE! She got a connection somewhere, alright!

Not that it wasn't obvious the second it was mentioned in parliament that she was ill or anything. lady C is full of shit.

There was an embargo on releasing her death until a certain time, lots of people knew, Lady C found out - probably through connections in the press- but she went ahead and announced it because she believed the embargo did not apply to her because she isn't officially press. While it's true she's not press, if she had any integrity she wouldn't have released it until it had been officially made public. She likes to have people think she has inside information but I bet it's press connections.

No one of any repute would be talking to Lady C. It's the equivalent of talking to Kitty Kelley.

I think Andrew and Harry both caused her a lot of stress, but because Harry was engaged in an active campaign campaign to discredit, commercialise, and politicise, the institution, he put her life’s work in more danger and would have caused considerably more stress.

Silly old tranny doesn't address why, if she's so well-connected to the Royal family, she didn't get invited to The Queen's Funeral.

[quote]Say what you want, but Lady C broke the news of the Queen's passing before ANY NEWS SOURCE! She got a connection somewhere, alright!

She said the Queen died at 2:37pm but she didn't die until about 4:30pm. She also said the family was waiting for Harry and Meghan to arrive to make the announcement, but that's obviously not true: Meghan wasn't coming by then, and they announced before Harry got there.

She doesn't have any connections. Stop being gullible.

How lucky for us that this thread is chock full of medical specialists and comedians.

Has Princess Margaret's daughter not heard of eyebrow pencil?

I have eyebrows enough for the whole family, R203!

Queen's cause of death may be revealed next week after royal mourning period ends

The registration of deaths in Scotland is compulsory in accordance with the Registration of Births, Deaths and Marriages (Scotland) Act of 1965.

This act states that "the death of every person dying in Scotland" must be registered.

This includes the submission of a death certificate to a registrar, which must be done within seven days of the death occurring.

If the Queen had died in England, there would be no requirement to release an official cause of death because the Registration Act of 1836 does not apply to monarchs.

In Scotland, doctors must report all deaths which are "sudden, suspicious, accidental or unexplained" to the Crown Office.

Her cirrhosis and syphilis finally caught up with her.

It didn't involve daggers, by any chance, did it?

Rough sex with my Johnny! Jealous, bitches?

SHE WAS 96...there is no strange circumstances. You act like she was 36 and died suddenly, hence the curiosity to know what caused it, but shes not, SHE WAS 96.

R209, we’re just being nosy. We all saw the queen deteriorate over the last year and have speculated on what caused it (something did, it was more than just advanced age). We just want to know.

Inquiring minds want to know, and it's perfectly legal to inquire about it.

I really don’t like the idea of a frail 96 year old carrying around the nuclear football.

[quote] If Elizabeth was subjected to horrific stress in her last year's, it's more likely to be because of Andrew's disgrace than Harry's idiocy.

Why would it had to have been only one or the other? It's actually likely it would have been both.

Are you serious R96 or just an idiot?

I doubt if it was stress. She actually seemed very happy in photos we’ve seen publicly over the last year. And I don’t think she was faking it, since she’s normally very reserved.

^ look at me still talking about her in the present tense.

I have seen this personally, in my family. My uncle was a druggie and a loser with lots of drama in his life. My grandmother used to agonize and worry and bend over backwards paying for lawyers, giving him $$ to "help him get on his feet." Then, something happened when she reached her mid 70's. She said "fuck it." Not literally, but she let go. She finally decided there was nothing else she could do, or wanted to do and she just let it go. She was basically a happy person, and she had a full life with five other kids, and grandchildren. No, she was not wealthy. She had enough to live on, but no way was she wealthy. Elderly people reach some kind of "plateau." They don't agonize or stress the way we do.

R199 I think the loss of Prince Philip was a major blow that she never recovered and that precipitated her decline in health. That being said, I think the Andrew and Sussex drama expedited her demise. I think she might have last another year or so had things been better. Allegedly, by the end the Queen was ignoring Harry's calls because she just didn't want to deal with him anymore.

I don't think the Queen died because of stress. I think she died because she was ninety-six.

Her heart stopped. Her kidneys stopped. She stopped eating. She stopped drinking. She stopped talking. She stopped peeing. She stopped. It was a total system failure.

R219 Yes she was 96 and really at 96 a bowel movement can be deadly BUT the Queen was remarkably fit until until Prince Philip died. There is very little doubt that the death of Philip with the added stress of all the family drama that brought on her rapid failing health.

It was Phillip killed her. Yea, the loss of him. She gave not two shits about family drama. There was always family drama. Her mother was an ace shit stirrer. But Phillip was constant. Steadfast. Her strength and Stay. And the loss of him undid the poor thing.

I'm guessing strength of will kept her going til after the jubilee, it was years of planning and a lot of money. She really was amazing

SIDS, no doubt.

"She gave not two shits about family drama. There was always family drama."

Seriously, the people who think that Andrew or Harry hastened her demise forget that she'd been a girl when her uncle abdicated for a trash woman and the monarchy tottered, and that she'd spent the sixty years since dealing with family alcoholism, bad behavior, engagement and divorce drama, Why would one more grandson marrying badly bother her? Okay, maybe Andrew being disgraced hurt, but by all accounts she didn't see what the fuss was about, royal men all use high-end prostitutes.

But I would really like to know the cause of death, because I'm a nosy bitch, and because she went so suddenly at the end that most of the family missed a chance to say goodbye. Two days after meeting the new PM something happened that was clearly going to be fatal and they called the family in, and whatever the fatal issue was it took her away before the family could get there.

I heard she died and I hang gliding accident

I agree r225. Something happened to REALLY hasten her death. They were not prepared—I totally get it, she was smiling and doing her job on Tuesday, so not surprising it caught everyone by surprise. I am guessing a massive stroke, but honestly, it’s only a guess. So I guess in Acotland they have to reveal the cause of death? Even if it’s the sovereign?

^because Prince Charles was there in the vicinity already, I bet the docs said 2-3 months. Maybe even 6 months. But the end was a total shock the family was not prepared for.

Or was it something like "Dark Victory", on TCM last night? A huge decline was evident to me, especially after Prince Philip said happy trails. I do think there's a time when we (senior Baby Boomers here) just know, instinctively, that the party is over, much like animals do. It seemed sudden, but I think she had accomplished what she deemed possible at that point, and simply truly realized that her work here was done.

See "Nothing in the Dark", a Twilight Zone episode with Robert Redford for one explanation of this phenomenon; I've see it played out again & again with my dear late mother, & other friends & family members.

A white Fiat Uno.

Charles was nearby and Anne was right there on site at Balmoral with her husband. So clearly they knew she was failing. Have any of you been around a dying person. Their system starts shutting down. And when it does, for example if you ever had to deal with hospice, it can take hours or a few days. I think that's where they were. They were at that point.

It took a whole lot to get her ready to meet the new PM. She was already looking grey ish under all the make up which tells me that her heart and lungs were not working very efficiently. I think it was cardio-pulmonary in nature. Now, IMO I'm curious about Charles and Anne being there. Clearly the RF didn't want to alarm the world.

They didn't want to give anything away, IMO. If everyone had gone to Balmoral it would have alerted the emdia and the government. I think they just wanted her to go quietly and she did. But much faster than expected. Which happens. I have sat there watching for what seemed like hours, and then at some point the person plateaus and goes very f ast. Once Charles realized that this was it, he called Edward, William Andrew and Harry.

They got her capping stone on fairly quickly. I guess it has been ready for a long time, just missing the final year. I really like her choice to be buried with her parents and sister (not on the stone)

Anyone know why Margaret was cremated? So she could fit in there?

She was only 96 and had her whole life ahead of her!

She was 96, and had kept going to do her duty, as she saw it, until the very end. Many old people do this, and then very suddenly they instinctively know that they are done.

I watched it happen with my own mother. Her health was failing, but she kept going to see her first great-grandchild. Then she kept going to see my nephew get married, knowing that her presence there meant the world to him. She celebrated the wedding, had a wonderful time, looked great and was interested in chatting to everyone there. And the day after the wedding, she ate very little. And then she stopped eating entirely. She dies of pneumonia less than 3 weeks after the wedding.

I think the Queen kept going through covid, firstly because she gave her “we will meet again” speech and actually meant it. When she could get out in public meeting people again, she did, and seemed to enjoy it. And then she kept going because the jubilee was around the corner. And then she knew that a new PM was due to come into office.

However, her physical strength was ebbing away. What would her life have been like if she had limped on for a year or two? She has been used to an active life and an important role. Increasing decrepitude would have been a sad end to that.

She was a 96 year-old devoutly religious lady, and was probably convinced that she would be reunited with her husband in the afterlife. I think she had had enough, and sensed that she had no strength left, so she arranged to go to the home she loved best, and where she felt most free, to have one last summer of family visits, picnics and scenic views. And then that was coming to an end.

We may never know, but I bet her appetite was failing, and that’s why her family was taken by surprise. When an elderrly person stops eating or drinking, things can go wrong very quickly.

Its too bad she could not hang on till 100, like her mother did or even Philip who was just a month shy of 100. Of course, most people wish he had kicked it 20 years ago. But at least 4 more years of Elizabeth would have ment 4 less years of Charles, a good thing and Horsemilla, a great thing!

Remember when Diana used to call Csmila up at all hours, once telling her she'd hired a hitman and he was in her garden? Lol no one remembers what a camp bitch Di could be.

There’s a certain dignity in seeing ‘old age’ stated simply, on a death certificate, as cause of death in a person of advanced years. In many cases, however, medics go over board to cover themselves with a long list which can include, for example, ‘depression’ and ‘alcoholism’ as secondary causes after three or four other medical conditions. This can create unnecessary distress among relatives. One of my colleagues refers to the more detailed as listing ‘everything including what they last had for breakfast’. Was it a gin and Dubonnet cocktail your majesty?

Camilla will f art like a horsebwhen she dies.

"Remember when Diana used to call Csmila up at all hours, once telling her she'd hired a hitman and he was in her garden?"

Did she call Camilla and growl "IS THIS THE COCKSUCKER RESIDENCE"?

If she didn't, what a missed opportunity!

R233 - from what I've read, Margaret did indeed choose to be cremated so she could fit in the chapel. She loved her father and wanted to be laid to rest with him, and she considered Frogmore - where she was due to be buried - "gloomy". Cremation seems a bit unbecoming for a royal, actually! I'm surprised she chose that.

[quote] Cremation seems a bit unbecoming for a royal, actually!

Princess Louise, daughter of Queen Victoria was cremated following her death at Kensington Palace in 1939. Coincidentally, Louise was the previous resident of Margaret's apartment 1A. Louise's apartment was so large it was divided into to two. (Apartment 1 housed Princess Marina, Duchess of Kent.)

[quote]Anyone know why Margaret was cremated?

She loved smoking so much she made it her final destiny.

She knew that, given the way she drank, they’d just have to light a match

I suspect it was a botched abortion that did her in.

R[123], I'm sorry, and I hope you recover soon.🙏

It's ironic that Margaret, who has the reputation of being quite punctilious about how non-royals should deal with her, did many things that royals tend not to do: be cremated, have an affair/affairs, divorce... She also wanted to marry a divorcé but backed out when told it would lead to her losing her privileged lifestyle (not much of a love story!)

^ I should clarify that I described her affair(s) as unusual because she was a woman and conducted it semi-publicly.

She also sunbathed with her tits out

R225: “Okay, maybe Andrew being disgraced hurt, but by all accounts she didn't see what the fuss was about, royal men all use high-end prostitutes.”

Any links etc you can provide to back up that “..by all accounts she didn’t see what the fuss was about”? I highly doubt there are like you say, and this sounds much more like your opinion being stated like a fact. While I agree the queen has seen her share of scandals come and go, in no universe would the queen, a devout conservative woman, would have that slip in the wrong company al over the place for it to get out there. Please do prove me wrong with a reliable source though.

Also, I highly doubt that a woman nearing the end of her 70 year reign wouldn’t have cared about the future of the monarchy she spent her whole life protecting, when her grandson made allegations of racism. Especially when they have been trying desperately to hold the commonwealth together and avoid so many Caribbean countries and others from screaming “colonialism” and declaring themselves republics. In terms of the real future of the monarchy, it makes the Diana stuff look like child’s play.

I think she simply died of a broken heart after her beloved husband Philip died.

R251 the funny thing about that was in public she had never been seen smiling and laughing so much as after the official mourning period for Philip ended. Maybe just a brave face but it was noted at the time how cheerful she had been looking. Perhaps she was thinking about her own passing and trying to set an example about moving forward.

It seemed to me that the real decline began after she contracted COVID from Charles in February. She commented later on a zoom call (vs a live visit somewhere) that the fatigue remaining after COVID is very difficult. Suddenly events in early spring started getting cancelled left right and centre, then came the cane, then the noticeable weight loss. Getting COVID at 96 - even a mild case- would be difficult to overcome, especially with other health issues that would have likely been there already by that age.

They did know something. The few weeks running up to her passing there were reports that Charles was going there every day in the morning. And he had that heartbroken look he had in the photo of his visit(s) to Philip.

[quote]You act like she was 36 and died suddenly, hence the curiosity to know what caused it,

I'd still like to know.

R253, I forgot about that. But yes, that would indicate something was happening.

[quote]She also sunbathed with her tits out

Margaret was a pioneer!

R256 don't forget us!

So the royals are a bunch of boobs and dicks.

Nor me, R257!

I checked CNN this morning, September 26th. And the Queen remains dead.

Prussic acid

[quote] Someone floated the idea that it was post-COVID complications

Was it Charles who gave her that?

Couldn’t he wait? We were told over and over how at risk the elderly were.

That's what they want you to think, R260...

In solidarity, I did my last Christmas message with no bra.

I hope R149 is right. My dad died last month (lung cancer). He was in hospice on a ton of morphine and he just slipped away very quickly and quietly. No real struggles or problems. We should all be so lucky.

Queen Elizabeth might have died from inhaling the same stuff! One never can be so sure as it's a Brit thingie.

The official cause of death has been announced and - surprise - the Queen died of "old age". WTF?

The official cause of death has been announced and - surprise - the Queen died of "old age". WTF?

I seem to remember "old age" appearing on Philip and the Queen Mother's death certificates as well, R267.

So long as you're over a certain age and your doctor signs off on it, deaths in Britain can be registered as being "of old age".

I wonder how that "1510 hours" detail will be explained away by "Lady" Colin Campbell, who was adamant that the Queen died at 2.37 p.m. Not a huge difference but still.

That shade of blue in R267 suited her.

If HM died after 3pm did Charles make it to see her?

Old age that took every one of her family member by surprise. All of them said it was unexpected and unpredicted. Yes, old age.

SHE WAS 96

R272, wasn’t he there in the morning?

Charles killed her with the Covid.

This was when she knew she was dying soon.

[quote]In a statement, the Queen Elizabeth II announced that it was her “most sincere wish that, when the time comes, Camilla will be known as Queen Consort as she continues her own loyal service.” It was the first time the Queen had acknowledged Camilla's role in the monarchy in this way.

Camilla's face is screaming out for a laser or chemical peel, maximum strength.

Told ya I was hard core.

[quote]r232 Once Charles realized that this was it, he called Edward, William, Andrew and Harry.

And Kate Middleton, who declined to attend.

In the interest of all our collective health, and to preserve any dignity she may have left, please don’t post pics of Horsemilla’s weather beaten FACE, r277

Do you really think they'd put anything else but old age? These people get special considerations, we'll never know the truth.

R277, what a keen and deeply profound observation. YOu look at a 96 yr old woman and say "she knew she'd be dying soon..." No. Shit.

Who is this "Kate Middleton?"

`^^ she's the daughter of a trolly dolly who got lucky.

I think she wanted to make it through the Jubilee. Philip was her "strength and stay", and when he died she was left adrift. My parents were the same way. My mother died first, she had an aneurysm rupture in her sleep. My dad died about 10 months later.

I'm glad she made it to the UK's first ever Platinum Jubilee. Sounds cheesy, but that (along with the UK being the runner-up in Eurovision a few weeks earlier) made it feel as though there was finally something to celebrate after two years of COVID.

Like the Romanovs sewing jewels into their corsets as a backup plan, Big Liz was known to secret a lot of larger gemstones in her vadge. I think this started with foreign gifts she didn’t want to declare?

Anyway, this may have caused internal problems, later on.

"Camilla's face is screaming out for a laser or chemical peel, maximum strength."

I know a weatherbeaten old horsewoman, and she said that after the peels or other skin treatments, the skin is much more prone to sun damage. And she'll be damned if she'll stay out of the sun, maybe Camilla is the same.

Camilla is/was a smoker. Come to think of it, so was Catherine Wales until she and William married and were trying to start a family. And the ALL drink. Camilla certainly does. And English "cuisine" is a heart attack waiting to happen. So they all had unhealthy habits. Although I believe Catherine and William have reformed.

Had the woman never heard of sunblock? (Not that there was much to preserve.)

Pftt.... Catherine, Princess of Wales

Kate Middle class is her name

Today, September 30, in the year of Our Lord, 2022, I can still confirm that Queen Elizabeth II is still dead.

I wonder if in Heaven the Queen not only gets to be with Philip again, but does she also get to communicate with other royals like her parents and others like Queen Victoria etc.

Didn't she contract COVID last year? I'm betting she had lingering after effects that impacted her overall health and precipitated her decline.

^^ yes, she had been sick with COVID. Charles infected her. Twice, I think.