Queen Elizabeth is DEAD TO ME

OMG 😱

Is it true?

OFFICIAL

Her flag is lowered.

God can’t save the Queen

RIP, Name. ❤️🌹🇬🇧

CNN is reporting it.

DEAD!

Mame☝️. Crying.

BBC just reported.

As someone said, with the black screen

Curtain up! Light the lights!

I have goosebumps

She'll no doubt have a huge funeral and there will also be the coronation of King Charles.

I didn't think I cared but my tearing up would think otherwise. Respect to her.

From Winston Churchill to Trussie

One of the easier "what's on their iPod" considerations.

Did I mention I made her? She never would have been the queen if I hadn't been around. The story is that I... yada yada yada...

Sad news somehow even if she's 96. RIP

End of an era.

Is Anderson Cooper crying 😢

Posting on the gates of Buckingham Palace. She died this afternoon.

Damn. RIP, Your Majesty.

This is the official thread

OP Used the correct format

Although “The Queen is fine, she sends her love” would also have been acceptable

May her memory be a blessing.

I can't believe this happened to me.

Where is the SCREAM video?

Goodbye, Comforter in Chief.

RuPaul killed her.

[quote] One of the easier "what's on their iPod" considerations.

I can’t wait to hear Morrissey’s classy reaction. He wasn’t much of a fan

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I figured it out. It feels like one more major change in the world, one more loss. And it's been such a funky few years, she's been one of the few constants.

They added the King and Queen Consort will remain at Balmoral tonight.

Shocking news. 25 years after Diana’s funeral…and she’ll have to endure the same overly sentimental histrionic displays she bristled against back then.

Sad day for all you American DL monarchists.

Holy shit! The news report I’m listening to just referred to the King and the Queen Consort…it just doesn’t seem real.

[quote]Shocking news.

She was 96.

BBC just said something to the effect of "QEII was a modest and humble servant....unlike more vainglorious members of her family"

Shade! Shade!

Well, we knew it was coming. I'm not really sad.

I don't know if I can get used to hearing God Save the King.

I had the interesting experience of working as assistant to one of the editors (yes, there are more than one) of the HQ release "Finding Freedom". I thought you guys - especially the Crown sympathizers - might like to know that while the British Royal Family does occasionally come across rather poorly in the book, there were also definitely bits that, while verified to be true by numerous sources, were in the end kept from the finished draft. This was done mostly at the behest of one of our senior editors, who in addition to being quite old is also conservative.

For instance, it was left out that one of the main reasons Prince Harry and Meghan Markle left the U.K. is the noxious stench that fires from QEII's practically decomposing cunt. There is absolutely no way to remove it (the smell) from any room she's entered. This is one reason Miss Markle wanted to use air fresheners in St. George's Chapel at Windsor the day of her wedding. The Prince had warned Markle what it was like to live with this fetid, all-pervading stink but she had no idea it could be so bad. Ultimately, she felt it was best to raise her child away from the toxic reek, which court doctors still do not understand.

Anyway, ask me any questions if you like. My contract with the publisher's up.

One doesn't have to be a monarchist, R34, just soeone inereted in and attuned to history.

I am putting on the Sex Pistols now.

What an amazing life she lived. Wow.

I’m not a fan of the monarchy but it’s definitely the end of an era. Growing up in Canada she’s been such a huge part of everyday life. Her face is everywhere. Now would be a good time to do away with the royal family.

R41 One doesn't have to be a monarchist for what? For it to be a sad day? I am interested and attuned to history, but it's not a sad day for me because the Queen of England died. I figure it is for the many Queen-lovers here, though.

R13 Thank you Captain Obvious.

[quote]r43 What an amazing life she lived. Wow.

Amazingly PROFITABLE.

Another One Bites The Dust

Side Chicks of the world unite!

Wikipedia updated(google search is hasn't caught up yet)

Even Queen Elizabeth II doesn't deserve better than a tired "dead to me" thread.

God Save the King.

Lovely cover.

[quote] I am putting on the Sex Pistols now.

My Way?

What did she die from?

Amen.

Meghan weighs in.

by god if I have to die to get to Philip’s juicy dick

Ah, and the pisspot prisspot "dead to me threads are soooooo tired" poster has, like polio, reared its ugly head again.

Major Johnny: CALL ME!

Let’s lift a glass 🥂 Well Done Betty

Just think: Some group of small q queens are 'Betty-Screaming' as I type

Predictions for the next two celebrity/public figure deaths-Jimmy Carter and Melanie Trump.

Archewell was READY and put up an "In Loving Memory homepage incredibly quickly - within minutes of the news, apparently

R31, you just figured out why you shed a tear? Umm… are you dead inside?

Perhaps if you stopped associating with all of your nasty, trolling, cunt friends from a certain website that has now been taken down, you’d be even more surprised to find out, that perhaps you are a real human being, after all.

It's going to be a small funeral, that's all she wanted. Cremation and Harry and Meghan will dump her ashes off Malibu then go surfing with their friends.

A statement from His Majesty the King:

She probably took one look at Liz Truss and was like “No, fuck this, I’m done.”

You know, when Philip died last year, I figured it was only a matter of time.

[quote]The Widowhood Effect is the increase in the probability of a person dying during a relatively short period of time after their long-time spouse has died. The pattern indicates a sharp increase in risk of death for the widower particularly, but not exclusively, in the three months after the death of their spouse.

She lasted longer than the odds would have otherwise predicted.

RIP - she was the last British Monarch who actually mattered.

The Queen is dead. Long Live the King, Charles Kartrashian.

That double rainbow...

Fear not!

Is Charles the King automatically, without ceremony?

First they ended the Jerry Lewis Telethon, and now THIS!

I don't even know who I AM anymore!

R73 He's king immediately.

Yes, r73. He is already King. Camilla is already Queen, and William and Kate are already Prince and Princess of Wales

R73 yes. The Coronation is just a formality

….and Meghan is nothing

Trussie is live saying she served only the plainest English Breakfast tea with not a dropper of anything funny or untoward

Actually William and Kate are Duke and Duchess of Cornwall. Charles has to invest William as the Prince of Wales

Duchess of Sussex is practicing her casket dance.

Met with the new PM TWO DAYS AGO. That is the kind of devotion to duty that most people can't even comprehend anymore.

Not quite, r77. The Coronation is more than a formailty. He becomes Anointed by God, to whom he vows to serve the country for his whole life, at the Coronation. Considered very sacred. It's not nothing. To the Queen, her Coronation Oath was everything.

I'd say "She had a hot ass but couldn't live forever" but I don't think she ever had a hot ass.

King Charles III

[quote]What did she die from?

[quote]—Rose

One was working on an oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico, you dullard!

Philip was hot. And arguably an ass.

She's not only merely dead, she's really most sincerely dead.

She will be missed, not everyones cup of tea. She did have a great sense of duty and a wicked sense of humour.

The UK is officially, royally FUCKED. Following the loathsome Liz Truss becoming PM, the sole beacon of decency and stability kicks it only days later. For all the US’s faults, we can talk comfort in the fact we aren’t the UK!

A great lady. Symbol and icon of the Constitutional Monarchy that evolved into the most stable national gov’t in world history. She absolutely devoted herself to this idea, system and nation for more than 70 years. No small feat.

[quote]Philip was hot.

People here are crazy

Isn’t Chuck supposed to taking a different regnal name?

Young Philip

The Queen may have broken that tradition by taking her own name for her Regnal name, t94, so there's speculation is that Charles will follow suit.

I had heard that, too, R94. Something about Charles being reminiscent of the English Civil War.

I'm awaiting the installation of that FABULOUS 'tampon', Camilla!

It's not speculation R96. Do keep up.

Who will represent the US at the funeral?

I blame Johnson and Truss for making her get out of bed.

Meghan must feel terrible being trapped in England after her 3 year campaign against the Royal Family

So now will we start hearing all the suppressed tales of coke orgies?

R100 Dr. Jill is already getting her funeral outfit ready.

You would have thought the Royal family was the Ku Klux Klan the way she went on

Maybe Meghan will defenester.

Has Morrissey weighed in yet?

2/10, r40.

[quote] Even Queen Elizabeth II doesn't deserve better than a tired "dead to me" thread.

???? "DEAD TO ME" is the highest tribute Datalounge can offer upon the death of someone noteworthy! It is totally respectful.

As I type Queen Margrethe, who is celebrating her 50th anniversary on the Danish throne this week, is spilling cigarette ashes and screaming up and down the corridors of the palace at Marselisborg.

[quote]On 10 September, the Queen and the royal family will appear on the balcony at Christian IX's Palace at Amalienborg, following the changing of the guard at noon, where large crowds of well-wishers are expected to gather to cheer her. Margrethe will take part in a carriage procession to Copenhagen City Hall for an official lunch and another balcony appearance. The Queen will attend a gala performance in her honour at the Royal Theatre in Copenhagen.

[quote]On 11 September, Queen Margrethe will attend a special thanksgiving service at Church of Our Lady – Copenhagen Cathedral. At midday, a luncheon will be held on the Royal Yacht Dannebrog. In the evening, the Queen will host a gala dinner at Christiansborg Palace, which will be attended by the royal family, foreign guests and Danish dignitaries.

[quote]On 23 September, the Queen will hold a soirée for the Government, the Danish Parliament and Danish members of the European Parliament in the Great Hall at Christiansborg Palace.

“Do we know if she died of natural causes?”

William and Kate now referred to as Duke and Duchess of Cornwall and Cambridge on royal.gov.

Good for her

Sssshhhh, R106.

She doesn't know that the first new appellation she'll receive post-coronation is "Tupa Dirishani."

She'll think it's a fitting honor, in accordance with her African heritage and a sign she'll be Queen of the African Commonwealth."

It actually is Swahili for "Throw it out the window."

It would be nice if the Meghan loons could stay in their own lane instead of ranting and raving on this thread.

My husband - and I, also, to be honest as I always am - believe that Lilibet Sr's demise was caused by her concern for our mistreatment.

Harry's only just fucking got there?!

Hope the uk DEPORTS that cu$t meghan.

At least she didn't have the indignity of bookending her reign with Winston Churchill and Boris Johnson. There would've been no greater metaphor for the decline of Great Britain than seeing those two names side-by-side.

The moped rental shop at the airport was closed so Harry was delayed.

Susan Dey at the podium of 10 Downing makes it Official

Sour Jake Tapper fucks up and he's not even on air yet.

God Bless the Queen.

His plane was late, and then it circled around for some reason, r117. I think there must have been weather delays, at least on landing.

One mustn't assume that MeGAIN actually has anything approaching human feelings.

[quote]I don't think she ever had a hot ass

She was very pretty when she was younger.

r124 That must be a grand canyon sized family rift at this point that he couldn't get on the plane with the rest of them given she was likely already dead by the point the main royal flight took off.

R127 yes its very sad.

r100 President Biden and his wife will represent the US at her funeral. It will be an official State Funeral, one of the largest in the past century, if not the largest and most-watched, ever.

How long before Dame Helen Mirren plays Charles ?

I wonder if Kate stayed because they knew and she broke the news to George?

Westminster Abbey just posted this lovely painting of her

[quote]She'll no doubt have a huge funeral and there will also be the coronation of King Charles.

Is that supposed to be a parody of the most idiotic, most obvious post imaginable? I certainly hope so, but I doubt it.

And P.S., as you apparently are not aware, his name will not necessarily be King Charles.

It's already been announced that he is King Charles III, r133.

R132- She looks like a BULLFIGHTER

No more Queens of England for all of us here. It will only be Kings for the rest of our days.

An important message from the cast of Miserable Lesbians.....

It’s pretty good if you go out with the whole world loving 🥰 you even if they don’t love Royalty, per se

[quote] No more Queens of England for all of us here. It will only be Kings for the rest of our days.

Don’t be too sure about that.

Somebody do a Larry King thread

I don’t think QE was “very pretty” when younger, but she was pleasant-looking, dignified, well-dressed, bejewelled.

has anyone asked Meghan how she's doing?

Will William now become the Prince of Wales as well?

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Because we all needed to know this.

Who gets Duke of Edinburgh? Surely, he won't give it to Andy.

The one thing I legitimately hope that without her mother to please, Anne allows herself a makeover. She's looked like Charles in drag for too long.

Apparently, after she's gone, the title of Princess Royal will pass to Charlotte, under the law, any man who sleeps with the Princess Royal before marriage is guilty of high treason and is to be executed.

[quote]I don’t think QE was “very pretty” when younger

Did you ever see her in person, r141?

Never complain, never explain

Eventually, R143.

The timing will be balanced between William needing to feel ready and not postpone it too long, and the desire to toss Wales the recognition, for solidarity's sake.

The original plan in the event of a Balmoral death was for the Q to be in state at Holyrood, which also was a good political move. Is that still on?

Charles will become King, and here in the US a Pretender, Court Jester is attempting a return to power. His comedic act has attracted millions of devoted fans.

Great story!

Never forget...

The White House releases a very classy statement.

great stories...

[quote]Met with the new PM TWO DAYS AGO. That is the kind of devotion to duty that most people can't even comprehend anymore.

It was probably meeting with the outgoing one that did her in.

r152 STOP sliding the thread with irrelevancies. This is a thread about the death of HM THE QUEEN.

The Queen was no beauty and lacked Margaret’s innate charm or her mother’s wit. She definitely lucked out with Philip.

I tell you that trussbag is the absolute kiss of death 💀

Lady C claiming in new video that she's hearing the the Royal family are blaming the "acute stress" from Harry and Meghan in the last few days for the Queen's rapid deterioration. Who are her sources that she is making all these announcements, down to the exact minute the Queen actually died?

She lucked out with Philip's monster dongage, too. That man was hotness personified in his youth.

Lady C is full of shit. So she's breaking news every paper and channel in the land isn't? Come on, she's Barnum and you're suckered. Jesus.

Damn. Prime Minister Sarah Palin is thrust into dealing with this on her FIRST DAY in the gig? Poor thing. I almost feel sorry for her. Almost.

I think this is the proper take.

Spark one for Her Royal *High*ness one last time.

I guess sausage fingers is taking over.

Lady C probably does have the goods, as distasteful as it is that she released such information. I am sure she serves as a useful tool for someone in those circles to share their views on Harry and Meghan.

R150, get help.

Her immense collection of purses will be distributed amongst Britain's gay men so they can defend themselves against attackers.

(152) Trump also kept her waiting, the clip shows her looking at her watch while awaiting the Dump.

R165, please send me your pin number so we can marry.

In America, consort means quite a different thing Camilla

R153 - well, the statement is TOO LONG. There are some good sentences. Also, the press secretary is a clod. I watched her live press conference and I heard her say, NO JOKE, "our hearts go out to the Queen and the Royal Family."

Can we have her stuff?

Harry and Meghan basically abused her toward the end of her life, all merely in order to drum up interest in them and make money. They refused the opportunity to meet with her despite being in Europe for days. They were monstrous to her and it wouldn't surprise me if the family partly blamed them for adding to her final burden.

I’m devastated. Been crying since I heard the news

Who will cover up for Prince Andrew now?

Did she die in the nude with a blonde wig on?

Are we to assume Meghan accompanied Harry to Balmoral? AWK-ward.

I can’t believe there are nutjobs on here trying to make this about Harry and Meghan. You people need serious counseling or Jesus or something. Can’t you keep you crazy hate out just one BRF thread?

Phrased with your usual tastelessness, OP. Thanks.

You're right. We should remember all they did in her last years. It speaks volumes.

Harry arrived without Meghan, r180, but you just KNOW she's DESPERATELY trying to find a way to get up there STAT in order to be able to keep his family from talking sense to him while he's alone with them.

Did she die on the toilet like Judy?

R171, rather too long, yes, but a good statement overall. The misplaced "not only" toward the end was annoying, but most people won't notice that. Writers for the president of the US should have perfect command of syntax.

The main channels in the UK are just rolling news, interviewing incoherent dimwits outside Balmoral and Buckingham Palace. None of them have anything interesting to say, they just want to be on TV.

We will never have another queen like her

Oprah, Gayle & Tyler are enroute on Tyler’s jet to meghansplain condescendingly to the British people

I'm quite sad about the old gal's death. But, in true DL fashion, just had a laugh at Meghan's expense: Now, they'll never get the picture of the Queen and Lili that they've been desperate for! Maybe they'll just thrust the kid into the coffin for a quick photo op.

I’m no fan of that inbred twit family (except for Harry), but the Queen was an icon and a decent person. It’s a sad day.

r187 the coverage has just begun, they have no visuals yet to do stories on so it will be endless jabbering for the next 24 hours, until the Queen's coffin is brought to Holyroodhouse and Charles addresses the nation.

Her photo from two days ago was a tell-tale sign and anyone could’ve made a bet she was gonna go. The ‘motting’ on her hands is a sign the heart isn’t pumping enough blood around the body to keep proper circulation. She was already in the process or dying when this photo was taken— she looks kind of creepy in her two final shots.

England is about to head into it’s flop era.

How utterly wonderfully symbolic is Harry arriving after the Queen's death is announced. Always missing the mark, Harry.

Several questions emerge around the Sussexes: will they return to using their HRHs now that the person who told them they couldn't is dead?

Harry is now 5th in line, his children (now HRHs themselves), his children 6th and 7th. Will this bring Harry's efforts in his court case any benefits?

Will the family go on grey-rocking him?

And how uncannily scaring the comment yesterday that with the Harkles' luck, HM would die the next day and spoil their WellChild event!

The funeral is ten days from now. One expects that Meghan will have to fly home to be with the children, leaving Harry to do the funereal honours.

William and Kate are now TRH The Duke and Duchess of Cornwall AND Cambridge, and William is now heir to the revenues of the Duchy of Cornwall.

Has anyone heard from Omid Scabies today?

The Queen and Charlotte are my favourite Royals. The rest, including Charles, William, Harry and Meg can go away.

As a co grandparent with King Charles will Thomas Markle be invited to the funeral? Is their protocol?

Lady C had all the details on Diana, and published them, and was laughed at for doing so. Time proved her assertions correct. Doubt she has the same depth of contacts now, but she clearly in certain circles (or peripheries thereof) and still privy to certain information and/or used by a tool by those classes. She may be a spectacle, camp, distasteful, what have you - but, yes, what she posted is probably true.

R193, that's bruising. Could be anything from a simple bump of a 96-year old hand, to bleeding from in IV in a 96-year old hand. It predicts nothing. Sorry, doc.

R189 is here to provide the racism

Don’t mean to be crude, but does Lady C really have a dick?

Yes and she still has one

Prince William will become Prince of Wales after the coronation, pending a ceremony at a fancy old castle in Wales.

The Dukedom of Edinburgh is set to be bestowed on Prince Edward.

Charlotte won't automatically become Princess Royal after Anne dies. They don't always use the title. Anne was in her thirties when she was given the title, and is still typically known as Princess Anne.

I see harry didnt make it in time to her bedside. I hope he gets a good gut punch of grief, and reflects on his actions

So no family was with her when she died. I thought Andrew was there with her, but no.

William must must have pulled the plug on her before he got there.

So do they have to change all the currency with her likeness on it? And there are a bunch of offices that say things like "HER Majesty's ___ " -- I guess those have to change too, unless Chuck isn't worried about his pronouns.

How many countries still have her on their stamps and currency?

Charles already sat for his currency portrait, R207.

^ That part will be endlessly tiresome, better just to drop the whole thing and call it a day!

[quote]Who will cover up for Prince Andrew now?

No one…Charles and William aren’t fans.

[quote]The ‘motting’ on her hands is a sign the heart isn’t pumping enough blood around the body to keep proper circulation. She was already in the process or dying when this photo was taken— she looks kind of creepy in her two final shots.

The mottling on her hands were visible in the video she did with Paddington Bear.

R205 - Yes, there were. Charles and Camilla were already in Scotland and got to Balmoral in the morning. Anne was also in Scotland and arrived quickly. If the Queen died in the afternoon, it was likely that those three, and even William, Edward, Sophie, and Andrew got there in time, although she probably wasn't conscious.

The world is trulycoming to an end. I find the news hard to believe, even if she was 96 and in poor health. Really sad today. Goodbye, Your Majesty.

r209 So what's the process for changing it--do they just gradually work the new stuff into circulation?

I know it sounds goulash, but I am curious as to what happened. Do we know for a fact that no members of the family weren’t there? I thought Charles was close by. I wonder if she went downhill all of a sudden—like minutes. Did she collapse, or have a heart attack? It definitely caught the family off guard.

Damn, I’m a noosy body.

Are the Meghan "jokes" supposed to be funny?

I don't know for sure, R214.

Imagine the seamstresses pulling out all that gold thread from those enormous EIIR workings on the red velvet curtains at Covent Garden.

In better economic times, I guess they would just have ordered new curtains with new embroidery CIIIR.

I'm being only faintly ironic: I've always loved those curtains, and those idiotic cherubs holding up the lights on the balconies.

Omg GHOULISH, not goulash ^.

R216, the Klan Grannies have never been funny

r193, All old people get that if they are on blood thinners and had had an iv put in their hand. By all accounts she was fine on that day.

IT IS NOT CLEAR ANY OF THEM MADE IT TO HER BEDSIDE while she was alive. Is the official time of death published?

It's been a long time since the monarchy changed hands-- I should know, since I was born the same year the previous King died. So things like currency--well, it's a very different world these days. People use things like cash and stamps a lot less often.

QAnon freaks say it's no coincidence that the Queen died 1776 days after the first Q drop!

lingering effects of Covid got her. She was robust before idiot Charles brought it into the Palace.

[quote] I am curious as to what happened

She was fighting an oil rig fire in the Gulf of Mexico.

R222 It said, "This afternoon." Charles, Camilla, and Anne were already in Scotland and got there in the morning. The other four may or may not have gotten there before she actually breathed her last.

Phew. I was worried there for a second.

So the Ginger Dimwit hadn’t even landed in Scotland yet when the family put out the official statement saying she had died? That’s a statement in itself. Good for them.

She had a hot ass but she couldn't live forever.

Zoo in on her hands in this photo and you’ll see the bruising was there before yesterday…

Has Fergie commented yet?

[Quote]She was very pretty when she was younger

She absolutely wasn't. Total plain Jane for all of her life. Cf picture below. Noteworthy how totally upstaged she is by the man in the background (her husband, I guess).

So how did TMZ miss getting out in front of this one?

Gotta love all the Dataloungers pre-emptively complaining that Meghan is going to make this about her. She doesn't have to - she already has Datalounge for that.

R229 - Right. He landed 15 minutes after they announced.

It says something that they didn't wait for his arrival to do so. - it shows they barely consider him part of the family. I don't even know why he bothered - he had to know he'd get no private speech with her, and the others would treat him like a leper. I suppose it was the optics, but even those didn't turn out well.

Will idiot Charles take proper care of all the horsies, the corgis and Seamus the Irish wolfhound? One does worry about the dollfaces.

Smeg was too busy briefing the sewage squad, r234.

She was quite pretty, but it often didn't show in photos, because they didn't show how beautiful her skin and colouring were. And she had a very appealing figure, with a small waist and quite respectable bosom.

She was very pretty and she had an INCREDIBLE figure.

R235 Blame the DM, not DL. Last night Meghan's mouthpiece was splashed all over the front pages about how William was to blame for it all and had crossed certain lines and wasn't prepared to unpack all that . . .

Who do you think Omid Scobie got those orders and the narrative from? Paddington Bear?

Harry and Meghan have poisoned the Queen's last couple of years of life, thoughtlessly, deliberately, cynically, and cruelly.

They are part of this narrative because that narrative begs the question of how the family is going to handle them now that the Queen's restraining hand is gone.

The Maul says Anne was at Balmoral all along, so she wasn't alone.

[quote]She was very pretty and she had an INCREDIBLE figure.

When someone broke into her bedroom -- in the 1980's? - he saw her in her nightgown and commented that she still had a girlish figure. The 1950's style she wore as a young woman really did show her off well.

Ring ring

Harry: Hello.

William: Harry, it's time. Gran's dying. Get yourself to Balmoral immediately. And don't bring that cunt.

R215 Your typo was my first laugh on this sad day.

I’m glad Anne was with her at the end, by far her best child.

Dan Wooton on GB News is reporting that there are rumours she fell, which might explain the sudden turn from looking reasonably good with Truss to suddenly gone.

Actually, goulash might join the DL style guide.

I’m a little disappointed Charles didn’t show some flair and pick an odd regnal name.

Some nice photos of young QEII

R240 She was pretty for a member of the inbred BRF. In the real world she was mannish.

[Quote]She was quite pretty, but it often didn't show in photos

So how would you know? Did you live with her when she was younger? Also, good skin doesn't make anyone attractive by itself, which is why children can be ugly. Looking at that Yemeni photo, I can see her features, her mouth, her nose, and they look ugly regarless of the coloring I try to give them in my mind, sorry.

[quote]God can’t save the Queen

Leave me out of this

Just over 25 years to the date of Princess Diana's death (Aug. 31, 1997.)

She was lovely looking. A very pretty woman. Begone with you, Marklestan at r253!

I was watching the BBC News online all day and when the grayscale BBC News logo flashed on the screen and God Save the Queen started playing, I did get a little teary.

I don’t think the Queen was ever pretty, nor did she need to be. She wouldn’t give a flying corgi about what us common folk thought of her looks. Pretty meant nothing when it came to her and insisting (against the evidence all can see) that it did misunderstands her.

R253 - Jesus, what's your problem? Beautiful skin is a physical asset just like a nice nose or white teeth. People meeting her for the first time in person described by being stunned at what Dame Margot Fonteyn described as, "the beauty and delicacy of the Queen's complexion".

Christ, even as an old woman you can see how beautiful her skin was.

I wouldn’t be surprised if William insisted he wouldn’t share a plane with Harry, and so Harry had to wait for the plane to return to his location after it ferried the rest up to Balmoral. Will has his father’s pettiness but has been better at hiding it so far.

For the love of god, she was never "very pretty" nor did she have a great body. She was short and short waisted.

But she was pleasant looking enough and the contrast of her blue eyes with her dark hair was attractive.

Has Charles announced his regnal name yet, R250? I'm rooting for Mordred or Guy.

My brother met her and said she was prettier in person.

I’m curious r260. I wouldn’t be surprised. Was Harry in London or Frogmore Cottage? If he was in Frogmore, that’s exactly near William, and yes, William probably vetoed it. If he was in London, it’s a different story.

Im sure the RAF has more than one plane

Harry no longer rents/owns or stays at Frogmore.

I love the morons sitting behind a computer in Sheboygan telling everyone about the travel arrangements of the BRF. You don’t know what Williams vetoed. Stop being dense.

Get ready for the [italic]endless[/italic] documentaries, discussions, etc.

R256, but it was reported they just stayed there this week and recently renewed their lease.

There was that line by the Duke of Windsor in The Crown : You don't always know where you stand in the Family but by God, you always know when you're out.

Something like that.

Here's a great little story about the Royal family and a visit to Canada.

Joan and the Queen. Go to 00:32.

Canadian officials are referencing Charles as King Charles III today.

Is the title correct/temporary?

I was OK until they mentioned on the UK radio station I'm listening to (Boom Radio) that at least one of her corgis were with her when she died.

😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

Yes, Clarence House and the BBC confirmed it...after Liz Truss called him that in her speech.

Check out the Google doodle marking her death.......

Yes, R273.

Johnnie and Joan really did have a good rapport at R272, it is too bad it ended so badly between them.

I'm going to miss her.

When my mom died at 90 in 2018, odd as it sounds I was somewhat comforted that Queen Elizabeth was still on this side of Eternity; since I was 4 years old and saw her coronation pics in the World Book encyclopedia I thought "This lady looks like Mama!" And the older they grew, the similarities continued.

My sister from Texas texted me, "Our Auntie Elizabeth made her transition. Nicely done; RIP queen! I was just at the grocery store thinking another one ascends to the "earbob" section of the pearly gates."

I responded "And don't forget their omnipresent "pocketbook," never "purse"! Shades of Mama and Great-Aunt Eva."

Oh yeah there's gon' be an earbob- & pocketbook-lady party in the Great Hereafter/Thereafter!

She looked like my favorite aunt, r279.

Would anyone mind if I wear my blackamoor brooch to the funeral??

It would be nice if the Meghan loons could stay in their own lane instead of ranting and raving on this thread.

not a chance, the klan grannies and mm psychos stink up everything

Oh and, r79, my aunt was an Anglophile and was in London for Elizabeth's coronation.

Fuuuuuuuuck! Mickey, where are we going to live?

^ r279

The Prime Minister is a terrible speaker.

[quote]This is the official thread

[quote]OP Used the correct format

[quote]Although “The Queen is fine, she sends her love” would also have been acceptable

Get fucked you Aspie freak.

If those bastards had just given me a couple more days I would have delivered a real barn-burner!

Is it ridiculous that I'm sad? I'm an American, was never a Royal watcher, and certainly didn't "care" about any of it. Just feels big, monumental. Crazy to think she was queen my entire 50 years - and 20 years prior.

She was comforting

R262 Yes. He's going with the expected: Charles III.

I was born the year she became queen. I remember my mother once said when FDR died that he'd been the only president she'd known.

It *is* big and monumental, r289, and it isn't ridiculous to feel sad.

This is so surreal. I mean, we all knew it was coming but it's still strange.

I have to wonder if this is going to accelerate Jamaica leaving the Commonwealth. Judging by the reception that Will and Kate got, there’s a lot of support for the idea.

R260 Last night the headlines were about Omid Scobie pointing a finger at William as being at fault for the rift. Omid Scobie is the Sussex mouthpiece. It follows on Meghan threatening the BRF with more dirt in the CUT interview, and a few months after Harry said he was protecting the Queen by making sure she had the right sort of people around her.

If William doesn't want to be in the same room with Harry today, I'd hardly call that petty.

Harry and his wife have been attacking William, Kate, Charles, and the Queen for two years. And as recently as last night.

The fact that they let Harry through the gates of Balmoral is remarkable.

They still use Times Roman font and two spaces after a period? I thought they were modernizing the monarchy?

^^Oops. That was in reference to King Charles' official, printed statement.

She was the fifth Golden Girl.

R298, I noticed the superscript / smaller-sized font for the "8th of September" part. That's actually more modern in that Microsoft Word does that, automatically. I turned my automatic stuff off for MS Word because I prefer to not have the superscript and small-size font.

But what's wrong with Times Roman?

What American could pull a big and substantial cross-section of Americans together in mourning upon their passing? Not an ex-president the way things are now.

r301 I can't think of any American who could do that to the American public.

I assume DL has addressed the Carnegie Mellon professor and the whole Black Twitter thing

No idea what you’re talking about r303.

yes, there's a thread about it. completely without class that woman.

sorry, link

R302/R303: Dolly Parton. Maybe?

I must have them blocked, r306, I only see replies the the original post. I’m sure they’re a piece of shit, though.

R300 Times Roman has been updated to Times New Roman which is thinner and has less embellishments or tails on some letters. Even so, a more modern looking serif font would be Didot, which is very clean.

I love Didot as much as the next person but it's very mid-century.

Bring back Baby Teeth!

Whoa, there was a rainbow over Buckingham Palace today.

Yes, r312, I got a bit verklempt over that.

A *double* rainbow, r312.

To summarise responses for those who can’t be arsed reading through every thread:

“Queen” jokes vis a vis Charles, Edward and George

Kate and Meghan rifling through the Crown Jewels

This reminds me of when my grandma died - I’m crying and scared

As an American…

Philip had a big dick

Charlotte plotting meme

The rainbows and the rain - a sign?

What about the notes, coins and stamps??

Philip had a big dick

She’s the only queen I’ve ever known

Betty / Big Liz / HRH / Her Royal Majesty

As an American…

Princess Anne should have been queen

She didn’t “pass”, she “died

Philip had a big dick

Who knows why Harry was late, but in my feverish imagination he had a big meltdown over the whole situation and Meghan had to calm his hysterical ass down. One thing’s for sure, he should have made a beeline to Balmoral as soon as they landed in the UK the other day.

Bone cancer.

That's why Harry made such a shit-fuss about making sure "she had the right people around her," and almost gave the privacy of the queen away in an ego move. Among all the family's reactions to the news of her illness, his was the only one that said, "IMPOSSIBLE! I'LL SAVE HER!"

She was receiving treatments but it progressed quickly, or seemed to, as in older patients the pains can be considered arthritis or discomfort of age. It is possible that this type of osteosarcoma disadvantaged a failing immune system. The COVID and the strain of family and national work also were understood to have played a role, but her demeanor was upbeat and her mind clear. The surprising smiles and engagement with people showed a resolve to enjoy every minute, or seem to. She went to Balmoral for maximum privacy and it was the season.

Thanks, R309. I didn't realize Times Roman and Times New Roman were that different. Didot looks nice. I also like Garamond.

For sans serif, I like Futura. I like the lower case "a" in Futura.

Harry was late because of some kind of drama with Meghan. Initially M and H's rep announced H and M would be traveling to Balmoral together. Then H left alone.

You know some fabulous drama took place before he left.

That monsteous Oprah interview and the fucking covid vaccines killed her and her husband. And all because fucking shithole China who spread its plague all over the world. Without the fucking pandemic she and her husband could have lived another 5 years!!!!

I'm devastated now.

R321, are you out of your mind? What the fuck are you talking about with that anti-science bullshit. Truth Social is hanging on by a thread, feel free to take advantage!

Royal Family (1969)

"The Queen is dead, lads."--Morrissey

😻 Loved Her !

R280/R283, that is incredible! I'm sure your favorite aunt had amazing memories of that day. What a cool story for your family to savor all these years hence.

R320 Exactly, that’s what I picture.

So Twitter (I know, I know) is saying that the queen had some sort of medical emergency in the morning when she woke up. Any other rumors out there? This wouldn’t surprise me, I think the family was unprepared for this. Maybe they were told she had several months to live, but the scramble to get to Balmoral supports the medical emergency rumor.

She was a bad girl. May she rest in hell where all evil wenches belong.

[quote]So Twitter (I know, I know) is saying that the queen had some sort of medical emergency in the morning when she woke up.

She went into labor, r328.

R173, yes, I’m sure the only reason the Queen died is because she had an uppity black daughter in law. I’m sure her husband of seventy years had absolutely nothing to do with it, she probably considered him very insignificant compared to Meghan. And who can blame her? Apparently Meghan is the most important person in the entire UK, since she is to blame for every single bad thing that happens there.

R193, thank you for mentioning this. Several of my relatives died with noticeable mottling, I didn’t know the significance of it.

[quote]I love Didot as much as the next person but it's very mid-century.

Mid nineteenth century, I assume you mean.

R225, I’ve wondered about that. Covid can have vascular effects.

Lady Colin said today that HM had a blood cancer and that she knew this for some time.

It has been announced HM will go to a castle near Edinburgh and then she will lie in state and have a small service before her body travels to London by train.

👸 Have the "QE2 Official Memorial Keepsakes" hit the shelves yet?

Earlier today we were quoting the endlessly credible Lady C as saying she had bone cancer.

So can we assume tomorrow Lady C will say she had rickets or repressed false memory syndrome?

Fuck. Who takes Lady C seriously? She's a carnival freak.

I’m just remembering that one stay in the hospital a year or so ago. I wonder if that’s when she was diagnosed. Other than that, I can’t think of a time where she was hospitalized, unlike her husband actually, who was hospitalized quite a few times.

[quote]Earlier today we were quoting the endlessly credible Lady C as saying she had bone cancer.

Bone cancer is a blood cancer. Cancer of the bone marrow. Perhaps she did have leukemia as some had guessed, but it could have been any other type like multiple myeloma, etc.

Lady C claims that she has been repeatedly using bone-related idioms when speaking of the Queen's health recently, by way of hinting that the Queen had bone cancer. I don't watch her regularly, so can't say whether this is true, nor has the Queen's cause of death been revealed by anyone else.

There will never be a formal announcement about her illness.

So young!

Of course not, R341, but those in the know will speak more freely to journalists (though still anonymously) now that she has died.

I wonder if she ever gave her Royal Family Order to Bea and Eugenie or to Lady Louise. It's a badge made of diamonds surrounding a miniature portrait of Elizabeth II against a background of chartreuse silk.

Camilla and Kate received it. Sarah York and Princess Michael never did.

So had she already died before William, Andrew, Edward and Sophie arrived?

🤔 I may be making a wild assumption here, but I'm guessing that the simple fact that she was 96 years old may have been a factor.

[quote] So had she already died before William, Andrew, Edward and Sophie arrived?

Thank, God. She was spared Andrew begging one final grift

Kate and Meghan didn’t show because they already knew she was dead.

I wonder if she knew that the end was very near when she met with new new prime minister?

Her designer just lost a very lucrative customer and I’m assuming a good friend.

R344 The Orders are given in recognition of service to the monarchy. As the York girls have never represented the monarchy, and are private citizens, they would not have been given the Orders to wear.

The Rt Rev Dr Iain Greenshields, 68, stayed with the Queen at Balmoral after being invited to perform a sermon at Braemar and Crathie Parish Church, the church where Her Majesty worshipped while at the castle in Scotland.

Greenshields, a Kirk minister and moderator of the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland, had dinner on Saturday evening and lunch on Sunday afternoon with the Queen, the Prince of Wales and the Princess Royal. He told The Times: “It was a fantastic visit. Her memory was absolutely amazing and she was really full of fun.

“It came as a great shock to me when I heard she was gravely ill because she was in amazingly good form over the weekend.

“She was the life and soul of things. She was speaking very personally to me about her time there way back when she was a child, she was talking about her horses from the past, naming them from 40 years ago, people’s names and places. She was quite remarkable.

v“We were talking about Ukraine and the situation there and her sadness at what she was seeing happening.

“She was talking about church affairs, she was very apprised of everything going on in the Church of Scotland, which would put a lot of our members to shame, she probably knew a lot more than the average member. It was only a few days ago, I can’t believe it.”

The previous weekend, the Very Rev Dr Martin Fair, 58, who has been minister at Arbroath St Andrews for 30 years, stayed as her guest at Balmoral.

He said: “I found her to be bright and in very good spirits, so I was sad to hear the announcement about her deterioration. We were in her sitting room and in the dining room as part of a family gathering — it was a privilege to be part of it.

“She was absolutely switched on about everything, current affairs and historical memories. She was on very good form.

Vicodin makes me quite jolly as well.

Are the pubs full of grown men crying in their beer?

On CBC this afternoon the journalist referred to someone calling The Queen "Elizabeth the Great", but I haven't heard or seen this anywhere else.

This is the first time since his timely death that I've actually missed boozy contrarian Christopher Hitchens. He would have been entertaining for about two or three minutes holding forth acidulously on tv.

Is that lovable queen from CNN live from the rambles?

I’m sad that we lost a decent human being. They are in very short supply these days and she was gracious and mannered.

RIP.

So touching to see the thousands gathered in the rain in front of Buckingham Palace, expressing their grief through the taking of grinning selfies.

A big part of me wonders if in the next ten years we’ll be reading a thread which states that the Monarchy is DEAD to ME. Inertia may carry Charles for a few years, but he’s not his mother

........

I saw a Paul McCartney interview from years ago where he said as a boy GE and all this friends thought The Queen was a hottie with a tiny waist and a great rack. Imagine how many pasty british boys performed self abuse to The Queen's rack. Perhaps they will seed a garden in remembrance to Her Majesty's fuckability.

Meghan’s assistant was heard today saying: “He'll be coming to London when he gets his leave and you's sitting there waiting for him just like a spider!”

r359 Probably not. Barring something surprising happening I doubt Charles is going to be popular. But there's about 7000 issues ahead of republicanism for British voters so the monarchy will just shuffle on for a few decades yet at least. Doubt it'll be the same type of monarchy though. The gold coaches and expensive ceremonies are likely getting a cut back now the old girl is gone and people question them more.

Does Camilla inherit Queen Elizabeth's ladies in waiting?

Elizabeth is dead, r364, their wait is over.

Just want to say that wasn’t bruising on her hands. The entire hand was purple, including the fingers. Fingers don’t bruise.

This looks more like the circulation to her hands shutting down.

Thank you, doctor.

Tell us what you know about the autopsy.

Well, I hope she’s not in the hands of a punch of pervy coroners

I wonder if King Charles can still get it up?

There’s got to be a lot of pressure, being the Royal Undertaker.

Charles has his mother’s collection of beheading axes now.

You just know they're taking selfies, r368!

I don't understand the people outside of the palace. What are they expecting to happen? Go home. Go to bed.

R369 Camilla can always still sit on his face

It's a major historical event, r372. They want to be a part of it.

Prediction: squabble with Andrew and Harry over wearing uniforms/Vigil of the Princes.

I thought Harry gave up the whole thing?

^ no backsies

What are your memories of the Queen? My mother was British-born and my aunt used to send us packages full of things you couldn't easily get in America in the 60s and 70s: Quality Street toffees, Cadbury chocolates, shortbread, Beano comic books for me, and stacks of newspapers. I loved reading about the Queen, young Prince Charles, Princess Anne. So my favorite Queen is circa-1970 Queen, with the flowery hats.

R374 or they missed out on the mass hysteria of August 1997 and want some shots for the Gram.

R379 Haha yes. Is the Queen getting as many flowers as Diana?

Yummy!

Are Harry & Meghan considered commoners now? Or somewhere in between?

Commoner than most, though not as common as most Tweeters.

I'm still waiting to find out what is in this for me. Even after the divorce, I was still regarded as the Queen's favourite daughter-in-law, so I know "Mama" must have provided for me in her will.

I was out this morning in Australia. I wore black today (also changed my screensaver to black) and so many other people were out wearing black today. I live in a very diverse area, and was actually nice to see so many people coming out together with a shared sense of mourning. If anything good comes out of this, it's good to recognize that people of all kinds of backgrounds love and respect the Queen.

Wow I am commenting to nm this thread

The Queen is dead!

And we will not see another like her for many generations.

Thank you, Ma'am!

Well done, Ma'am!

You will be sorely missed, Ma'am!

The Queen is dead!

Long live the King!

A 96 year old dropped dead. Wow so shocking.

[quote]A 96 year old dropped dead. Wow so shocking.

A clueless nobody just posted on DL. Shocking.

For a basically plain woman, she did okay in life.

I wonder what she’ll be buried in, what personal jewelry she specified, etc.

Will there be open casket viewing for the public? It would raise a lot for charity, certainly.

It’s going to be very weird when they all go out on the balcony for the 1st time in 70 or 80 yrs without her.

R390 The British Royal Family don’t do caskets, open or otherwise.

[quote]A big part of me wonders if in the next ten years we’ll be reading a thread which states that the Monarchy is DEAD to ME. Inertia may carry Charles for a few years, but he’s not his mother

Just try to enjoy NYC life, dear. We'll be fine.

R392,

What was that thing Philip, Charles, Charles Spencer, William, and Harry walked behind in September 1997? That flag draped thong billions of people saw with their own eyes?

The Monarchy is like a wheel without its steel axle, for sure. But King Charles seems like he was “literally” made for the part and should be able to carry on somewhat smoothly.

He doesn’t seem like the douche he once was!

He is still a douche but he’s a grandpapa now and people look kinder on that.

Charles hasn't got the range.

Can he, alone, make Camilla Queen? 👸

[quote]For a basically plain woman, she did okay in life.

I'm going to assume this was meant to be funny.

I hope they don't end up in Montecito with those two shitasses.

[quote]What happens to the Queen's dogs? Monarch is survived by four of her beloved pets - which will likely end up with her 'favorite' son Andrew or members of the royal family's longtime staff

Honestly, I think Barbados was the last straw.

R394 that “flag draped thong”, as you cutely called it, was a coffin, not a casket. There is a difference - JFGI.

One less queen on DL.

It was a casket.

So Harry left already. Must have been hellish for him getting frozen out

[quote] What was that thing Philip, Charles, Charles Spencer, William, and Harry walked behind in September 1997?

The remains of a woman with Borderline Personality Disorder and a few auto parts embedded in her body?

[quote] So Harry left already. Must have been hellish for him getting frozen out

He's probably worried because Meghan told him that the next time she sees him he had better have that emerald tiara she was eyeing up before her wedding.

R394, she may travel thru the streets of London on a gun carriage?

We knew this day was coming but now that it’s here I can’t

R399 If he grabs her by the pussy she officially becomes his queen

Are you ready for the new bank notes?

Can you just see Princess Ann sitting with a tall glass of piss & vinegar as she X’s out all who have crossed her or the Queen

R413 Those ears are fake. No one would have ok’d that.

Nothing like American television to make a mocking carnival of the old traditions of a royal death.

The ABC morning show is particularly appalling. Right down to hateful phony Robin Whoozits donning a black shiny-satin-lapel tux coat and burbling like she belongs there in front of the palace.

A slideshow of the Queen through the years.

If Harry and Meghan are watching Charles' reception outside BP by cheering smiling teary crowds of people of ALL colours, they may perhaps be rethinking their assumptions about the wisdom of flouncing out and thinking they can best this sort of thing with cheap celebrity and whingeing.

Those predicting the death of the monarchy with the death of QEII may also be pulled up short by the response to the new King.

R405 It is probably even more hellish for Harry, upon seeing his father's reception at BP, to realise he's about to publish a memoir trashing said King and shitting on his grandmother's legacy, and how, in light of this turn of events, that memoir and any more "dirt" from Meghan and Omid are going to play on the world stage.

Charles greeting crowds out of Buckingham Palace.

I also watched Charles greeting the crowds outside the Palace. He appeared to be a very relatable guy, and the crowds were embracing their new King who just lost his beloved Mother. The Brits are already giving Charles their love and support.

R419 not to mention the reception they’ll be getting in the UK during the next week or ten days. They won’t be able to show their faces in public apart from the ceremonial aspects of official mourning. I wonder if the crowds will refrain from booing them out of respect for HM or do so to show their anger with H&M.

There’s no way back for them now. They will be seen, correctly, as having shown incredible disrespect to his grandmother during her final days.

R421, the best tribute to the Queen would be to give Charles a chance to prove himself. Most decent people will.

R423 Well said.

Watching them enter BP on foot in black, looking so small but steady, and move slowly through the courtyard was emblematic of how fantastic the BRF are at optics.

No one should underestimate the hold the monarchy still has on Britain, and why the Windsors continue. And, Charles has behind him now an extremely popular relatively youthful and hugely popular Prince and Princess of Wales with a very attractive young family.

Harry and Meghan got it so wrong, that it beggars description. They could have been part of all this, as well as their children.

It’s 2022. Get rid of the monarchy. What is this “royal blood” they speak of. We’re all the same

[quote] “The British Funeral Seating Charts” by Hasbro

LMAO

[quote] What is this “royal blood” they speak of.

Apparently, some old Greeks and Krauts.

We got into trouble with them there Krauties not so long ago.....

Do you have any racist jokes, R427? Or women? How about fags? Call me! You're hilarious!

'Lizard Liz dead': Villagers round on chip shop owner who celebrated Queen Elizabeth's death

Jacki Pickett, who runs Jaki Fish and Chip Shop in Scotland, was pelted with eggs after spraying champagne and dancing at the news

She's fucked tho: The National Federation of Fish Friers (NFFF) confirmed they had revoked Ms Pickett's membership from their organisation.

I get not everybody likes monarchy or any of it, but I cannot understand why people choose to behave so badly and disrespectfully. Just shut up for awhile. It's OK, sometimes, to shut up. When most people seem to care, what guides you to believe the fact you don't really matters to anybody? What makes you think suddenly you have the capacity to influence anything, considering your track record to date?

[quote]He appeared to be a very relatable guy

Indeed. Who among us doesn't spend time having conversations with plants.

Wow... William is Prince of Wales.

R432- Ya. That was a shocker. And then he said 'and Harry and what's-her-name can kiss it'.

[quote]Can you just see Princess Ann

It's AnnE to you, bitches.

^ LOL, did he ever.

"And to my other son and his wife, elsewhere, truth bombs. Anyway."

Whoa and LOL!

King Charles has just rattled off the new titles bestowed upon William.

Then, with his other son, the King deliberately avoids referring to them as the Duke and Duchess of Sussex and calls them plain old Harry and Meghan.

Turn the oven to OFF. The Sussexes are done.

Man, don't give me drag queens. Spare me the most skilled of diplomatic rhetoric dipped in acid.

Those Windsors invented, and perfected, the rhetorical stiletto. That was fatal.

LOL @ Turn the oven to OFF. The Sussexes are done.

Also from another thread: it's the Royal equivalent of Bye, Felicia.

Della, R436: at least at the funeral we'll know it's po-face, not grief.

Shame on Della and anyone else gleefully twisting Charles’ words to make it seem like he took an opportunity to take a passive aggressive snipe at his youngest son. Here is what Charles said VERBATIM. Note that he referred to both of his children and daughters-in-law by their first names. However, he also made it a point to identify William and Catherine’s automatically designated new titles.

[quote]As my Heir, William now assumes the Scottish titles which have meant so much to me. He succeeds me as Duke of Cornwall and takes on the responsibilities for the Duchy of Cornwall which I have undertaken for more than five decades. Today, I am proud to create him Prince of Wales, Tywysog Cymru, the country whose title I have been so greatly privileged to bear during so much of my life and duty. With Catherine beside him, our new Prince and Princess of Wales will, I know, continue to inspire and lead our national conversations, helping to bring the marginal to the centre ground where vital help can be given. I want also to express my love for Harry and Meghan as they continue to build their lives overseas.

If you don't know a bolt-on when you see it, OK.

". I want also to express my love for Harry and Meghan as they continue to build their lives overseas."

Chilly.

There was nothing chilly about it. Some of you really need to see someone over this odd obsession. One woman, shouldn’t take up that much space in your brains.

Is anyone watching the service in St Paul’s Cathedral? Is there another thread?

I don't think there was anything wrong or cold with Charles' statement about Harry and Meghan.

R442- Take your own advice dear and please refrain from scolding others like a scowling schoolmarm.

R444- It wasn't in our reality but it probably was in H&M's.

Well, on the official website for the Royal Family, Charles and Camilla have been removed from the section dedicated to those who aren’t the monarch, and Harry and Meghan have been bumped up.

I know the LGBT community is full of so many people victimized by their parents (raises hand), but the way some of you want to believe Harry and Meghan are loathed by their own family…it’s just sad…and a bit sociopathic.

R442, you say that every time. Doesn't the brick wall hurt?

Ya big loser.

r439, I stand by my post at r436.

Yes, he called William and Catherine William and Catherine.

What's significant is that it was in the context of announcing William's new titles.

He immediately refers afterwards to another son; a son and daughter in-law that also have a style- Duke and Duchess, but instead of referring to them with that style, he calls them "Harry and Meghan".

If you don't think that was deliberate, may I interest you in buying some rare, artisanal cheese I harvested from the Moon?

R447- Meghan is loathed and they just can't trust Harry not to record their private conversations.

Della/R449 while flights of angels are invoked by interest people, an influx of life's don't counts are grieving here. Don't sweat it. They don't count anywhere.

R449- Subtle yet deliberate, I agree.

Della, I know you aren’t dumb.

Charles identified William and Kate’s NEW titles. Harry and Meghan will remain the Sussexes, so there is nothing to clarify.

It really is the heir and the spare.

I always thought Della was smarter than this, but oh well. It’s kind of disappointing, like finding out there’s no Santa.

Santa doesn't do public housing.

I believe people are speaking of how Harry and Meghan will take what he said, not how he meant it. I honestly believe they will take this as a slight and an insult because that is what they do with everything the trf does or doesn't do. At least I was.

I thought he said it because he had to say something or else.

R457-; Did he mention Edward getting the title that Prince Philip wanted him to have?

Is it now the House of Mountbatten-Windsor?

R453 I agree that he was diplomatic and humanized his family by using their names instead of titles with the exception of declaring that his heir has now had a change in title, this was not a slight towards Harry and I’m not sure how people can misconstrue this.

Also, does William move into Clarence House now?

How fares Lady Louise Windsor? DL needs to know.

Reports today said CH may become an HQ for Charles' charities, having been earmarked for Harry. Or mothballed until a need arises. CH is not an official residence of an heir to the throne.

Googling around for information on the holdings of the Duchy of Cornwall, I came acroey'ss this scan of a 1969 article speculating which minor royal from the Continent a 20-year-old Charles would marry. No mention of Camilla at all, but I guess they didn't meet until a few years later. Great picture of a dorky Charles with Anne wearing a fabulous Mod dress in the background.

Seriously, Anne. Consult the gays of Knightsbridge. They'll turn you into a fashion icon.

If they need someone to stay at Clarence House for a few months until they settle its future, I'm available.

I just thought I'd read that William et al were planning on moving out of Kensington Palace anyway.

[quote] Watching them enter BP on foot in black, looking so small but steady, and move slowly through the courtyard was emblematic of how fantastic the BRF are at optics.

I don't think Charles and Camilla looked steady. Camilla looked stooped over and I think Charles did, too.

I’m sure they both have already nipped into the gin.

Johnny!

Too bad King Charles didn't remove the stick from his ass before recording his first address as King. My god, the constipation of his voice quality.

Charles only took Clarence House for sentimental reasons. He was close to The Queen Mother and it was her former residence.

Oh he's always sounded like that, r471, even when he was a teenager. Had you never heard his actual voice before, or seen Josh O'Connor play him on "The Crown"?

[quote] Is it now the House of Mountbatten-Windsor?

There were agreements worked out that it is supposed to be before the Queen died, but Charles as the King is now free to do whatever he likes (he need not abide by his mother's ishes). What usually happens is that a queen regnant is the last of a dynasty (unless her sister takes over from her), and the person who succeeds her represents a new dynastic name: so Elizabeth I was the last of the House of Tudor, and Anne was the last of the House of Stuart, and Victoria was the last of Hanover. Charles could decide he wants to start a new dynasty named after his father's family and be the House of Mountbatten; but technically the agreement put in place now is for him to be the start of the house of Windsor-Mountbatten, which is a continuation of the last dynasty.

[quote] Too bad King Charles didn't remove the stick from his ass before recording his first address as King. My god, the constipation of his voice quality.

I forgot about his voice. Even QE had a more relaxed-sounding voice than he did. The 2 sons (W&H) also don't sound so stilted.

[quote]Too bad King Charles didn't remove the stick from his ass before recording his first address as King. My god, the constipation of his voice quality.

I will say, having just watched it, that I detected no shading of the Sussex's. Indeed, his mention of them was quite a bit warmer than I expected.

Who gets to christen Cunard's new MS Queen Anne, I wonder. Lilibet did the Queen Mary and current Queen Elizabeth (at the time, the president of Cunard observed that she was the only person there who'd been present for the christening of all of Cunard's ships of that name, having been there when her mother did the first, and then doing the QEII herself), and Camilla did the Queen Victoria. I mean, I guess it defaults to Camilla, but they should consider letting Kate do it.

Charles’s mention of Harry and Meghan was perfect. They can’t claim they weren’t acknowledged. They can’t claim it wasn’t warm, at least on the surface. But it was a statement of fact that they have a new life in America and that’s that.

Certainly an eventful trip for the Sussexes, perhaps not in the way they envisioned. Are they both sticking around until the funeral? As someone on here posted, that’s going to be awkward if they can’t bolt.

I guess this thread is now going to be all Harry and Meghan, all the time. Good a time as any to leave.

Bye.

The transcript of the paragraph where the princes and spouses and titles were mentioned ran to eight lines of print. Seven of ‘em about the Cambridges.

^As the new King just sent a pointed message to the public about Harry and Meghan, they are fair game on this thread.

Charles made his family situation clear to the press and public: no, he will not try to bring Harry and Meghzn back, as rumours have suggested; they are te out, and out for good. Charles sugar-coated it with what I am sure was sincere-ish fatherly love as far as Harry goes, and by doing so, endures that if the two go on trashing the King his wife, and his brother, it will be the Sussexes who will look bad.

He conferred new stardom on William and Kate, making his little addendum about the Sussexes sound like a P.S., which it was. He's left them their worthless titles, their kids are HRHs - so they can't bitch that they were pumished unfairly.

But those symbold mean something BIG in Britain, far less in America.

It's on a par with his mother's "recollections may vary".

The old dog was capable of learning new tricks from Mum. This is the same man who wanted to issue a point by point rebuttal after the Oprah interview, but was restrained by the Queen.

Anyone who thinks that the Sussexes were anything but, at a minimum, bitter hearing this, is naive. I'm sure they were livid about the comparison with William and Kate, especially given that Charles' little by-the-by to them was tacked onto the far bigger news of Charles creating William Prince of Wales immediately.

No one in the family or the court or the government would miss the coded message.

The week that the Sussexes had counted on to up their status and celebrity glitter has, instead, been ruinous for them.

They never see the next move coming.

I wonder what Netflix is thinking.

^above post was meant for R478.

The crazy has official arrived.

VOTN and others: William and Kate (the new "Waleses") are staying at KP, they have a lavish apartment and offices there, they've already indicated they will be keeping that as their London touchdown until William is King. They also have their Norfolk bolthole, and now Adelaide House at Windsor for them main pad as they kids are going to school there now during the week.

Charles has said previously he'd move into BP once he's King, and evacuate Clarence House. CH will now become offices perhaps, until such time as Prince George perhaps want so use it as his residence years from now. Or more likely, a place for a widowed Queen Camilla to live our her days after CIII's passing. These spots can be converted back and forth from living quarters to offices easily.

I agree, Della / r436.

That was the kind of throw away line you write when your PR people tell you that you have to say…something. There was so much more that he could have added, things along the lines of: England will always welcome them blah blah blah. As Meghan said…the quiet is part of the song and the quiet in his speech was rather…loud.

Yup r482… every thread devolves into a discussion of the Sussexes. I have no love for them but they are certainly receiving the attention that people in this thread claim they so desperately want.

[quote]I just thought I'd read that William et al were planning on moving out of Kensington Palace anyway.

Which is funny because just a few short years ago they promised to make Kensington their home in exchange for millions in needed repairs paid for by the people.

Spot on, r480. Spot on.

As usual with these things, what Charles didn’t say means as much as what he did say.

I'm guilty of feeding the Sussex beast. They are fun to parody, for sure. Truth be told they are just garden variety fools, typical of their generation. Most of my evil doing is to agitate her trolls who come here to disrupt a gay board calling us faggots and other garbage their sacred totem would surely reject. I loathe the hypocrisy of her and it and them, so I do my bit to agitate them. They're low class scum anyway, it isn't that hard.

R436 Love the rhetorical stiletto bit, Della.

And leave us not forget the significance of "rebuild their lives overseas" to Harry's court case against the UK government to get Judicial Review of the Home Office's decisions on his security when "visiting" Britain.

I want a tee-shirt with Recollections May Vary on the front - a tote bag would be even better. Anyone seen them out there?

Further wondering if Charles, in wielding that stiletto this afternoon, was hoping to persuade both Sussexes to skip the funeral, the way they skipped the rest of the Jubly - or at least, Meghan.

Why the fuck she'd show her face there with egg on her face there after this week's shambolic showing and Charles' Fare Thee Well, with every single person in the Abbey grinning privately, is beyond me.

Everyone screamed the Queen should take the titles, Charles should take the titles . . . but the two suavely went one better: they left the Sussexes with titles that are increasingly worthless in America, tattered window dressing instead of Proof of Significance. And wait till the new Prince and Princess of Wales visit America.

I suppose if Harry gets mean enough in the memoir, there's always the Line of Succession avenue.

When I complained about the old tyme look of Charles written announcement posted to Buck House gate and use of Times Roman font and double space after periods, I had no idea that King Felipe's official condolence letter would be such a visual travesty. ALL CAPS with full paragraph justification? It.looks like this announcement just came off the telex machine from 1985. At least they use a sans serif font.

R488 - As often mentioned here, everything in these circles is communicated in code:

We are delighted to invite you and your wife to participate in activities celebrating Her Majesty's Platinum Jubilee, and no hard feelings about those interviews and mean things you said about me, your father, your brother, and your sister-in-law.

Second row, middle.

What? Oh, no, sorry, no balcony this time out.

I think CIII's reference to H&M was ok. What's he gonna say? My heir with all the titles and the beautiful wife and children blah blah duty...and then my second son belligerent man-baby and goblin wife constantly throwing toys out of pram blah blah but I still love them even though they are exhausting dum-dums?

R486 Kensington Palace remains their LONDON HOME.

They did not MOVE OUT of it. They took a school year place nearer to the Queen, their kids' school, and her family. Adelaide Cottage wasn't renovated or built for them. It was move in ready.

They probably knew the Queen wasn't going to last much longer and with Charles and Camilla now officially at BP and Clarence House, they could cover the base at Windsor.

The understanding wasn't that KP would be their home for the rest of their lives. It was until such time as Charles acceded to the throne and/or William did, making other arrangements necessary.

It remains their HOME IN LONDON.

Remember there was talk about them actually moving into Windsor? Maybe they're going up the road after all.

They cringiest part of CIII's speech was the last line - the quote from Hamlet. Really? You go with Hamlet? Shakespeare ok, but Hamlet no. Esp. since that line was said to the dead Ophelia. After a touching personal closing to his Mum, the words of a bitter and stagnated young prince to his suicidal girlfriend?

R494 loves the look of block CAPS, like King Felipe!

R491, agree that the form of that letter was awful. ALL CAPS and justified on the right as well as left. But what's wrong with a with serifs font? Have you seen the documentary "Helvetica"? King Felipe's letter looks like Helvetica.

R493 - Yes, exactly. We mostly agree with you, I think. It was a superb way of hinting that those issues had not gone unnoticed, and the exile of the two was the result.

Because that's what it is: an announcement of exile.

[quote]r424 Harry and Meghan got it so wrong, that it beggars description. They could have been part of all this, as well as their children.

They didn’t want to raise their kids in that racist household, swimming in Blackamoor pins and questions about what color their mixed race children would be.

It’s sad that you yourself would apparently sell your soul (and own kids) just for some wealth and glamour.

I LIKED FELIPE'S STYLE!

I've said that for years OP

"It didn't have to be this way" should be inscribed on MM's tombstone.

[quote] R467 I just thought I'd read that William et al were planning on moving out of Kensington Palace anyway.

[quote]r486 Which is funny because just a few short years ago they promised to make Kensington their home in exchange for millions in needed repairs paid for by the people.

Grifters gonna grift. It’s in the blood.

R148, what a lovely montage of the late Queen. Thanks for sharing them with us!

Sadly we don't have the Queen anymore but at least we still have Shirley Jones.

She of the curtsying tits.

Thank you r500…royalist queens are majorly deluded by the BRF.

Sorry, but after thinking this through a bit more, I am not siding with Della's perspective.

Why should Charles elaborate further on Harry & Meghan, when he, as a father, is clearly disappointed that his own youngest son has estranged himself, and continues to do so? Wouldn't ANY father take the same tack? This is like me being pissed that my family forgot to send me a fake invite to a summer BBQ where everyone still lives back home, when I'd clearly stated I was not coming back home that summer. Such 'ceremony' craved to be read by folks now thinking this was 'deep shade' is not appropriate and not in the Royal custom either.

As has been stated, new titles weren't being bestowed upon the Sussexes, so mentioning their existing titles all over again would sound pointless and very forced. Throwing out a "you're always welcome back here at Buckingham" would be criticized for being disingenuous, and ACTUALLY shady. He said he loved them, and wishes them well in their new life 'abroad', which connotes adventures, travels and essentially positive things, but a clear fatherly tone that he wished they would come home, but accepts their decision. It was very well stated.

Outside of that, a father is not expected to pretend he isn't disappointed when their kids move 10,000 miles away, not even the King. So yeah, some basic Dad vibes is all there is to it. I don't blame him one bit.

The TIMES:

As a princess, the future Queen would often slip unnoticed into the stalls of a West End theatre to watch a play. Things naturally became more difficult after her accession but The Stage optimistically told readers in 1952 that if the Queen wished to pay an informal visit to a theatre London playgoers should pretend not to notice and allow her an evening off. She once told François Hollande, the French president, that as a girl she had wanted to be an actress (this was eight years before her double-act with Paddington). Hollande suggested that in a way she already was. “Yes,” the Queen conceded. “But always the same role.”

The Queen met many actors, several of whom have played her. One of the most memorable was Prunella Scales, in A Question of Attribution, Alan Bennett’s play about Anthony Blunt, the Surveyor of the Queen’s Pictures and Russian spy. The women met afterwards and Scales gave a curtsy. “I expect you think I should be doing that to you,” the Queen said.

Sometimes Her Majesty had to pull rank on Another Majesty. At a concert in 1982 to mark the centenary of the Royal College of Music, the Queen Mother was heard to hiss “Who do you think you are?” as her daughter elbowed her way past to take the plum seat. “The Queen, Mummy, the Queen,” her daughter replied pointedly.

The Queen’s first prime minister was born 101 years before her last. Reflecting on her longevity for an American audience, the academic Matt Glassman pointed out that she had reigned for almost 30 per cent of US history. “The Brits think 100 miles is a long distance,” he said. “Americans think 100 years is a long time.” Our American friends, though fond of the monarchy, don’t always get it. At a reception in Washington after the war, President Truman introduced Princess Elizabeth to his mother-in-law, who told the future Queen: “I’m so glad your father was re-elected.”

It's so difficult to know what to believe these days.

[quote]It's so difficult to know what to believe these days.

It's really quite simple. If Trump said it, don't believe it.

I've been wanting to mention, in case no one else mentioned it, but a BBC newscaster stated on yesterday that Charles the II was the Queen's forebear. She is not descended from Charles II. He had no legitimate children. She is descended from Elizabeth Stuart, daughter of James I and aunt of Charles II. Please correct me if there was any provable illegitimate descent directly from him to her.

R366 then how come McConnell isn't dead? He always has blue hands. Maybe because he is one of Satan's children and can't die. He is one of the undead I guess.

I believe you're correct, R513—Elizabeth was not directly descended from any of Charles II offspring.

However, four of her grandchildren are: William and Harry (through their mother) from both Henry FitzRoy and Charles Lennox, and the two York girls (again through their mother) from Charles Lennox, Anne Lennard, and the Duke of Monmouth.

End of Days

Like sand through the hour glass.

[quote]Like sands through the hourglass — so flowed the outrage from “Days of Our Lives” fans Friday.

Tell me about it.

Well, a corollary, but the abrupt demise of HRM QEII has (ironically) FORCEFULLY brought home to me the reminder of what a great, GREAT group the SMITHS were (ARE):

[quote] According to MentalFloss, the queen had a lead-lined oak casket designed more than 30 years ago. Princess Diana was buried in a 540-pound lead-lined coffin, per MentalFloss. Why include lead lining? It impedes moisture from entering the casket, which slows decomposition.

(SOME GIRLS ARE *BIGGER* THAN OTHERS...)

Sunny's View

[quote]According to MentalFloss, the queen had a lead-lined oak casket designed more than 30 years ago. Princess Diana was buried in a 540-pound lead-lined coffin, per MentalFloss. Why include lead lining? It impedes moisture from entering the casket, which slows decomposition.

Okay, we're not burying Superman.

The idea is that anyone digging them up and opening the lead-lined coffins will get lead poisoning as punishment.

540 lbs.? Are they kidding? Aren’t there only six pallbearers? That’s nearly 100 lbs. each they’re carrying!

“HRM”, R319?

Lady Colin explained there is a news black-out of sorts that prevents the public from learning about all that's going on behind the scenes.

For instance, no photographers following the queen's body to the mortuary where she's been enbalmed, no photos of the arrival of her coffin, etc.

One would think the foreign press could give a flip, but so far nothing.

^MISSED. Teehee...R519

There are rumors that Diana is not buried on that island in the lake at Althorp. She is actually in the family vault, but the family put it about that she's on the island (which nobody can access) so that tourists won't haunt the Spencer vault.

[R465] "I'm going down in history, Pats, as the woman who put Princess Anne in a Vivienne Westwood basque"

👸 Elizabeth was indeed The Royal Queen of England, but yesterday it felt as though the entire world lost their Queen, and we all share in your sorrow.

Any word from foreign royals? Daisy of Denmark will be the next to go, I think.

“Royal Queen of England”? I’m loving these titles that some of you just pull out of your arse.

R531, did it seem as though, on her last appearance on the balcony, that she looked a bit wistful?

It feels as though we all lost our dear Nana. A shared sorrow indeed.

[quote]They cringiest part of CIII's speech was the last line - the quote from Hamlet. Really? You go with Hamlet? Shakespeare ok, but Hamlet no. Esp. since that line was said to the dead Ophelia. After a touching personal closing to his Mum, the words of a bitter and stagnated young prince to his suicidal girlfriend? r496

The line, "Good night, sweet prince,/And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest." is said by Horatio over Hamlet's corpse in the last act of the play. I doubt r496 has ever read a word of Shakespeare

^ Yes, "sweet Prince" re Hamlet, the man who has brought about the deaths of at least 8 people during the play, including his own mother. Sweet indeeed, poor 'misunderstood' boy...LOL. Shakespeare was NO FOOL and someone not to be cited carelessly. He was smarter than EVERYONE else...

Where are Meghan and Harry? Are they still in England at some hotel?

^We'll never know. Muriel, in one of her little drunken furies, DELETED the thread that was keeping us abreast (erm) of their doings in this tense, troubled, time.

Thinking of this sweet lady today for some reason. She's about the Queen's age.

If it's true she had bone cancer that's a no win situation. Where did you find this info?

Yum!

[quote] They didn’t want to raise their kids in that racist household, swimming in Blackamoor pins

Oh FFS, Mary.

Even just the one at a lunch was certainly offensive and upsetting. Even so, that one instance did not mean they were "swimming in Blackamoor pins"--what a ridiculous overstatement. You only hurt your own case with such rhetoric.

R148 pic is definition of “horse face”

R498 I haven't seen Helvetica but it sounds interesting. Nothing wrong with serif fonts for printed material, just my preference is sans serif nowadays since neatly everything is digital.

[quote] Where are Meghan and Harry? Are they still in England at some hotel?

They still have Frogmore Cottage available, I think.

IS BILL TAYLOR A DISTANT COUSIN OF FELIPE JUAN PABLO ALFONSO DE TODOS LOS SANTOS DE BORBÓN Y GRECIA?

Christ, Camilla look like she was on an all night bender today.

Not to put a hex on the woman, but I think Charles will definitely outlive Camilla. Her heavy smoking over the years is taking its toll.

^And you, sirrah. I suppose would look like fresh peaches and acteam after being up likely for going on 48 hours at 75 as your mother in law the Queen dies, your husband becomes King, you're already in the public sight as never before, and your husband be ones head of state, head of the family, has to write several speeches, sign the Accession papers, start travelling to rack of the capitals of the other three nations in GB, dressed in black, whilst the monumental task of overseeing the biggest state funeral in our lifetimes . . . And remaining calm and dignified and holding her grief-stricken husband together.

A bender? She probably has't slept since Thursday morning when the axe finally fell.

Are you, like, attached to Planet Earth? How the fuck did you expect her to look?!

Have you any idea of the shit going on behind the scenes?!

Pssst, don’t mention this aloud,

DIANA HAD MORE FLOWERS 💐

Recall The Crown... it's entirely possible she was embalmed at Balmoral, with mobile equipment. I know they make so much shit it up but that seems easily done to assure her privacy. In any event, they've kept the photos of Diana suppressed for twenty-five years... photos of the Queen's body would be useless.

What they're doing is removing the flowers from the forecourt at Buckingham Palace and other locations each day. At BP, for example, there's a place designated in Green Park, across the road.

To Della's point yesterday re the indication the Harkles have got what they wanted - which is out - from The Telegraph today:

While William flew up at his father’s behest – for constitutional as well as familial reasons – The Telegraph has learnt that Harry was not summoned, but took the decision to travel to Scotland after Buckingham Palace announced that the Queen was under medical supervision following doctors’ concerns.

I see Major Johnny over the King's shoulder at the Accession Council. Perhaps Camilla's just tired.

Major Johnny seems to be a feature of the reign. Now thank we all our God.

The Accession Council looks a bit like one of those occasions where the royals go home and laugh after about the things that go wrong.

There's this outsized document to be signed and two copies, on a table too small for both copies and the fountain pens and the inkwells and Charles, Camilla and William, signing, are all grimacing and trying to figure out how to write around the inkwells. It's awkward and comic. The kind of thing the Queen was said to love.

King Charles in probably appalled by the quality of those mountains of cheap flowers wrapped in cellophane. And petroleum based candles in plastic holders. Huge carbon footprint. But it's the thought that counts so nobody would ever say anything.

[quote]But it's the thought that counts

It's the thought that stinks.

One thing I note is Charles' preferred car is not the newer Rolls but rather one of the really old ones. He's been seen twice - arriving from Balmoral and today from St. James' Palace to BP - and both times it's the old(est?) one... - the1978 Rolls Royce Phantom VI.

Still a bit of Edwardian in him.

Is anyone else just waiting for hot 🥵 Kate to kill it in all black!

R559 It will be tough beating her own major slaughtering of it at Philip's funeral . . .

Yes, r559.

It’s going to be like a McQueen runway

Does the treasure mountain of jewels include any magnificent black opals and black pearls?

I'm watching the Accession Council on YouTube. Queen Consort Camilla looks like shit warmed over, no doubt beyond exhausted by the events of the last two days. Mitigated somewhat by a few moments viewing of our delectable Johnno.

Maybe Stella could stitch up some black dazzle for Rotty

I hope George & Anal represent America. I just love the way she walks and brings it.

I doubt the Clooneys will be there. When it comes to significant occasions typically the royal family only invites people who contribute to national life or, even more radically, who they actually know.

She shows up!

O.K., wipe away your tears people, Mum was awesome, but Fashion Week has just move over to England

She owned a McDonald's in Oxfordshire

God, does this mean I have to learn a new version of the national anthem? I just mastered the last one, at the cost of great distress to myself.

R570. I knew it wasn’t a Pizza Exoress.

I can't wait to see what inappropriate, ill-fitting mess Meghan rolls up in for the funeral. You know she's screeching at whatever poor assistant still works for her to get her something better than Kate.

Please do not create a continuation thread on this one when it is closed.

We have enough Elizabeth and Charles threads floating about.

That you are in no way obligated to click on

Show us on the doll where these threads have hurt you, R574.

Why are gay men and old women in America so interested in the British royal family? I'm a gay American man but I'm asking because I'm not really interested. The fascination with them on DL is very interesting and perplexing to me. There are English people in my family far less interested in the royals than some American gay men. No offense meant.

R577 It’s because you are so butch, you should really be on a lead.

You're interested enough to post in this thread that you aren't interested, r577.

R579 I can be interested in the thread and the replies, and the jokes. Without being interested in the monarchy. Thanks for your concern, though.

R578 Sorry you were triggered.

It looks like Muriel deleted the Harry thread. He did say the 1st amendment was bonkers. I guess Muriel agrees.

No point in making a thread about this but Meghan is on TV right now at Windsor, holding Harry's hand and doing her bizarre hip-swaying walk.

It's stomach-turning to see that no-account whore inserting herself into all this. She should say, "I've got to take care of my kids", and go back to America.

[quote]I can be interested in the thread and the replies, and the jokes. Without being interested in the monarchy.

The thread and jokes are *about* the monarchy, r580. I assume you have no interest in...say....plastic hip joints. Would you participate in a thread about plastic hip joints? Would jokes about plastic hip joints interest you? Sorry, but your "Why are gay men and old women...?" question is condescending and generalizing. The fact that you can't understand that historical figures are of interest to people says more about you than it does about them.

No possible way is Megs going to miss any opportunity to get in front of a camera and play the dutiful wife, clutching at and supporting her grieving husband.

She's been lingering for much longer whenever she's shaking a black person's hand.

For the love of Satan Meghan, restrain your eyes from seeking out the cameras.

I gotta admit, I got teary when I saw them come out together. Hope it holds. I just wish the Queen got to see it.

LOL @Della / R588. As if, eh?

Not sure why they're giving H & M this kind of cover. They certainly don't deserve it.

Ironically, r577 is also:

[quote]R41 One doesn't have to be a monarchist for what? For it to be a sad day? I am interested and attuned to history, but it's not a sad day for me because the Queen of England died. I figure it is for the many Queen-lovers here, though.

The Royals - the late Queen, the King, William and Kate - amount to far more than Harry and that glorified streetwalker.

R593 was for R591.

The desire to be magnanimous is in direct proportion to the amount of power and security one has.

If the reports are correct that William initiated the joint walk-a-about with the Sussexes, William's enhanced position is part of this.

Della, R595: BBC just reported the same thing. The invitation to the Sussexes came through Kensington Palace, which is the new Prince and Princess of Wales.

God, I admire their guts, enduring those two for appearances sake.

It is so much more than they deserve.

It sounds like the climate of Harry and William has changed. The BBC said that there may be a role for Harry and Meghan - helping with some of the Commonwealth countries. And that they are good at it. Quit a thaw. And good for William for being the grownup.

And this looks like Archie and Lilibet were surely be Prince and Princess. Win, win.

I think that was talking head speculation. The rule is you can't be a money maker and a royal.

I bet the appearance of the four was Kate's idea.

I disagree that they are good at it, R597. William and Kate had much more rapport with the people they met.

They were good at it? Meghan bitched about every trip they had to go on.