Woman abducted while on jog in Memphis - Official Part Two

Type - victim is Eliza^ Fletcher

Thanks, OP!

So he'd been in prison for kidnapping a woman before? These types certainly never learn from prison, do they?

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Why didn’t the cops do anything with the reports that came in leading up to this event.

Is the media asking them questions and holding them accountable?

At age 16, kidnapped a man in 2000 at gun point and threw him into a trunk for two hours, stopping at an ATM to force him to draw money. The man yelled when he saw a security person and Abston fled but was caught and sentenced to about 24 years. He got out in July 2020.

This was in the older thread but here is a YouTube of a quick police interview on Friday early afternoon. Some concerns raise about a similarity between the suspect and some complaints from the university women’s x country running team nearby. Cop brushed it off. Again, this was Friday when not nearly as much was known in public about suspect etc.

[quote] Cop brushed it off

Memphis PD is the envy of the crime fighting world

They struggled to even get the right description out there. Blue. Shorts, purple shorts, brown hair, blonde hair - even when there were surveillance photos.

I assume the search areas are based on his cell phone pings from that morning after she was abducted?

Eliza... Elise... Oy.

Searches have resumed today in multiple parks / forested areas and waterways around Memphis. Arrested suspect is not talking.

RIP poor lady

Will BLM bail him out?

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Hiring in Tennessee is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're going to get.

[Quote] Hiring in Tennessee is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're going to get.

Is this comment racially motivated?

[quote] Will BLM bail him out?

Why would they, racist Matt-facto? Do they support criminality? I don’t think so. They oppose police brutality against black oeople.

[quote]Why would they, racist Matt-facto

Didn't Matt try to claim that he was POC because he was a Jew and scream racist at everyone? I find this hilarious but then he's batshit crazy and changes his screeching fits and MO to fit whatever narrative he wants on whatever day he wants. So he's actually the racist now?

“Mfs always see my folks and be on some wats up with pookie wats up wit wild like they really f*** wit a n**** but don’t f*** wit no n**** I been gone all this time and have a FB page MF if u f*** with me u would’ve made sure I was straight fym get tf out of here with that bs been doin this shyt by my mfn self I’m screaming F*** u n**** and b****** keep the same energy wen they free me..”

A real wordsmith, isn't he?

Seems to me that black men are attacking white women at a greater rate than white men attacking black women. Why isn’t that being discusses?

In case you didn't notice, white women occur at a higher rate in the population than black women...

In case you didn’t notice black men occur at a lower rate in the population than white men.

The victim was in recovery? Running provides a natural high. Runners can be obsessive about running. The victim had probably ran at that time regularly without an issue. I wouldn't recommend anyone run alone that time of day but don't think that it is strange that she did.

The suspect is a creep. Usually when a crime is committed and the suspect picked up, neighbors are in disbelief. His neighbors will be surprised if he didn't do it.

Neighbors already pegged him as a creep. Offering females a hundred bucks for sex - with no success supposedly. I guess he thought he had a lot of sex (with women at least) to catch up on if he was arrested by 16 and came out at 36. So he got violent.

He looks soulless.

[quote] Didn't Matt try to claim that he was POC because he was a Jew

We have two Matt trolls. The one you’re referring to is ugly Anscher.

The much more active troll on here is Matt-facto, who likes to call herself “Defacto.” That specimen is a greasy wop and a self-hating gay rightwinger. She hates black people and she hates her own sexuality, so she hates yours too.

Bonus points — she’s extremely fug.

It wasn’t clear from the husband’s social media if both of them were in recovery, or just him for alcoholism.

Nobody wants this entitled "official" part 2. Fuck off we will continue to post on the other thread. Bye bye bitch!

R26 did you just call someone a "greasy wop" whilst complaining that they're racist? Oh my sides!

I hope her incredibly wealthy family pays some thug in prison for some jail justice Dahmer style. What a fucking wretched piece of shit this guy is. Poor woman.

The resemblance

Is uncanny.

Is that really DEFUCTO?

He should've been kept in prison.

See ya r28. You won’t be missed!

Body found

Looks likely it is her

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Daily mail once again has the best detail

Found in a wooded area 100 years from the brother’s apartment block.

Yards*

Daily mail does not have the best anything. Get real.

That fucking animal should've never been released from prison.

Here the uncle of this cleotha monster speaks out against his family:

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“Isaac added: 'My whole f***ing family's wacky,' he said. 'They always have been. They're not beloved to me because they're nuts. It's the truth. Go check the police records for the Abstons.

'You'll find they're all perpetrators of something. My wife's son stayed locked up. Mario is arrested now for drugs and carrying a gun. And Cleo, I'm 100 percent sure he had something to do with her abduction. “

Why did he do it?

He wasn't aware of her financial status?

Ha R46, I think I like this uncle. I just love the word "wacky" for starters.

Apparently the mother of the murderer and the brother picked up on drug charges has gone into hiding.

He was certainly busy after getting out of jail the first time. From CNN:

“Three additional charges were added for Abston since his arrest Saturday, according to Shelby County Jail Records. Those charges include identity theft, theft of property $1000 or less and fraudulent use/illegal possession of a credit or debit card $1000 or less, records show.

The newly filed charges Abston are not related to Fletcher's abduction, according to an affidavit obtained by CNN affiliate WHBQ. The new charges are connected to a Thursday theft report filed by a woman who reported that someone was using her CashApp card and Wisley Card at gas stations without her knowledge.”

Smart of them R49, if I were her family I'd already be hiring some thugs to rough them up.

I hope the jailers are peeing and shitting in his food.

Tennessee has the death penalty, but executions were put on hold through 2022 pending an investigation of the type of drugs used in lethal injections. They now have 5 death warrants waiting, the highest in the US. This POS will be #6.

I’m glad if it had to go this way that they found her quickly before some deal could be made that would spare his life in exchange for revealing where le dumped her body.

He certainly isn’t a criminal mastermind. What a complete loser. How sad two children lost their mother because this creep got an urge and was stupid enough to think he wouldn’t get caught. I’d flip the switch myself.

This is the person that was taken away from her children, her family and her students...

Was a sweet lady.

You cannot hide or fake that kind of genuine goofy sweetness ^^

Just horrible how cruel life can be-

Those children are so young they won’t even have real memories of her. And her family will have to live with knowing this gross POS raped and beat her to death.

It must have been hard for the family as some apparently attended the court hearing. He turned and started at them. I will try and link it.

OK, but are we ever going to find out why she didn't know how to smile like a normal person?

I don’t know if it was caught on this particular clip. It does show though the appointed attorney asking for a gag order on future proceedings.

This clip shows more and the part where he stares over at the family.

Wow I forgot about the Nancy Grace angle. What will she deem this monster? Is the devil dancing tonight?

Tot Mom is already taken.

[quote] You cannot hide or fake that kind of genuine goofy sweetness ^^

Mary ...

I figure someone somewhere is trying to peg this on liberal crime policy but there are no liberals in Tennessee.

There might be low funds for the police department, though. Fewer cops on patrol, less training, lower pay.

It's more the court right? Why did he get out early? or at all?

Probably eligible for parole. Also, he was under 18 when he did the prior kidnapping. Sounds like he was prosecuted as an adult, but him being under 18 was probably a mitigating sentencing factor.

It's fucking crazy that he went right back to doing what he was doing. His criminal thought process was not stopped at all.

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^ Police charge accused.

Now that her body has been identified, has his $500,000 bond been revoked?

I think the judge said it would be revoked. if prosecution files a motion worthy the new charges. A paperwork thing with the judge basically. The guy is a monster. Committing violent crimes by the age of 12 apparently. I used to be opposed to the death penalty having grown up somewhere that has never had it - but with someone like this I feel differently obviously.

*With the new charges not worthy (typo)

She was raped. her pants were found elsewhere...that fucking shack where her body was found is just awful...how can anyone live there?

I wonder if the criminal thought process of someone like this can be stopped or not r70. I really am not sure. Some reform, some learned the life of crime and some people are just evil. A bad seed maybe? Combine with a single digit IQ.

I just saw the location now.

1666

This is pretty detailed and might be a little much for some fyi. Interesting that at least some of her clothing was found in a garbage bag right nearby vs the McDonald’s talked about the other day.

According to one of these articles that Cleo guy kept propositioning women for sex. He even said he’d give them $100. No one wanted to fuck him! So he just abducted, raped and killed her. So sad. He needs to be put down.

How sad. I hate the death penalty but I'm certain rare cases, it's almost needed. What's the point of keeping this guy alive for another 40 yrs or more. He was just released and jumped to committing the worst crime you can. Just rid the world of this garbage.

Bad seed.

A very sad outcome. I had hoped she would be alive.

The suspect is a deviant and criminal but had no prior history of murder.

I guess we'll get the details, which will likely show a painful death.

We need craigslist back . With craigslist horny bastards like him would easily find cumdumps looking for bbc.

Cleotha?

It bugs me that the public defender had barely been assigned and she was asking for a gag order on all future proceedings. Apparently she will be filing an official motion to do so. I think that is wrong for these high profile cases to be doing that. They tried with the murdaugh case as well. You can always find jurors who will consider all evidence and not be influence by media. It’s become a knee jerk reaction by these defence lawyers now to try and prevent the trial from being public.

R86 exactly. Or why couldn’t he have just driven to whatever part of Memphis has hookers on a corner and used his hundred bucks there. Instead of going violent on someone.

I dunno. Seeing footage of the victim dragged into the car of the last individual who saw her alive is damning evidence.

Guilty. AF.

R89, well, he's obviously very stupid and brainless.

To all who thought the husband was involved, don't you feel foolish now?

Well, do you?

Some are still suggesting he might have been involved or paid off her killer, R92.

Yeah - a lot of people rely so much on the stats about these killings but in a city with high crime and abduction rates like Memphis, it should never have been such a strong assumption.

Why was he released early (I’ve heard by 2-4 years) and doesn’t that mean he should have had a parole officer?

R92? No. The spouse is usually responsible.

Are you fapping because "a black" did this?

The suspect offered to pay for sex, this is inappropriate and creepy but he didn't assault the women he approached. He has no prior history of murder.

That is what confuses.

But the footage of the victim being abducted is a slam dunk. He did this. Why is irrelevant.

I’m sure it’s well swept under the rug now but the campus x country women’s team complained about a line guy in a dark suv harassing the runners on their early morning practices. He definitely seemed to shift his ambitions to doing something by force.

Lone^ guy

There was a rape charge when he was a minor. Before the abduction of the lawyer. He was extremely young at the time.

His life of crime - including rape while a minor started at 12. This one gives more detail.

This is the official part 2. That other one is a racists mess.

One gossip site, who will remain unnamed, is reporting that the killer was the drug dealer to the husband and that the husband owed him money. Also reporting that the husband was having an affair with the nanny. Just saying...

This is to random of an attack and I think something else will come out to connect this guy to this family in someway.

Agree r102

R103 what do you mean random? Many crimes are opportunistic and I can totally see this fucker spotting a woman running alone and deciding he's going to rape/kill her.

I believe in coincidences, but his last kidnapping victim worked with her family’s attorney? That’s QUITE a coincidence.

The yard ape was wearing shower shoes. How could it have been planned?

He had been in jail so long he didn’t understand the basics about public security cameras and his vehicle / phone gps tracking him. That and a likely low IQ.

I doubt they’d go this far in a statement if there was still a cloud of suspicion over the husband.

Kemper Durand died of pneumonia ten years ago. Why go after a niece of Mike Keeney—one of thirty-five attorneys at Lewis Thomason's Memphis office—when he had absolutely nothing to do with the Durand case?

And if you had a grudge, wouldn't you plan what to do? This guy clearly acted on the spur of the moment. I don't think he intended to kill Eliza. But she didn't capitulate at all, like Durand did (until he yelled for help).

No one’s going to kidnap the niece of their dead victim’s coworker for revenge. Sounds completely ridiculous.

R103 he did not get paid after raping and offing the wife.

I'm very much a paranoid person who sees conspiracies everywhere but why this guy raped and murdered is irrelevant.

He is guilty and will be lucky to escape the electric chair

Tennessee has the electric chair as a means of execution - it was last used in 2009. Interestingly enough, it was built out of wood from the state's former gallows used in hangings. Death row inmates can choose the electric chair over lethal injection, but there is still a lot of controversy about using it.

I wonder why a method could not be used similar to defibrillating a patient in the hospital. The inmate could be sedated, strapped to a table, and then the shock could be delivered via paddles, only with much greater strength than that used in defibrillation. Larger and correctly placed paddles should get the job done in one or two strikes.

Everyone who ran into the guy say he's a lowlife

If you scroll down a little bit in this article there is a creepy video a reporter took walking around the perimeter of the house where she was found. Filmed shortly after law enforcement left and took the tape down.

r5, those kinds of complaints from women tend to get dismissed socially and ultimately brushed off for various reasons that all boil down to misogyny.

r21 - Learn to spell before you racebait.

r28 was right, this thread sucks.

[quote] I hate the death penalty but I'm certain rare cases, it's almost needed.

There is the reasoning that has contributed to making modern society so anarchic. Nobody likes the death penalty, any more than they like euthanizing rabid dogs. It's just an occasional unpleasant necessity.

R28/r118 do get over yourself and just head back to your other one. We know you.

I’ve been having nightmares about Eliza’s murder. I was awakened and startled by seeing that last photo of her on her 4am jog. I see that photo and I wake up horrified. I can’t seem to figure out how and why her body was found on the back steps of that broken down house? I first heard her body was found in a “wooded area’.

Now, reports are saying she was found on or near the doorsteps? How would she have ended up there? Was she alive for a brief moment and was trying to get help? I realize the police shouldn’t give away too much details. But there’s so many discrepancies based on news reports. I just hope that asshole gets the death penalty and in a way, even liberal states should allow in some instances of heinous crimes that the perp should be sentenced and put down in a speedy manner.

* Reference the tool box killers*

R121 I totally hear you on this. I think of times when I’ve come back from an evening walk a little too late and it becomes dark quickly or am out walking usually busy parkland/trail areas near me and realize there has been a lull in foot traffic and I am very alone. That’s different from jogging at 4am, but those moments of danger can sneak up on any of us at any time without meaning to have them happen. And despite all the heiress stuff the media loves to mention, she was so .. ordinary. Like anyone.

Details are a little hard to piece together. I thought maybe she was killed in those first few minutes they mention after she was and tied but I shudder to think it wasn’t until later. The trial will be public likely - even though the public defender on day one tried to gag order the whole thing. I feel the need to know how this all happened.

Abducted* not tied ^

Elizabeth Taylor IS Cleotha!

Any updates?

Woman here. Shit like this scares the crap out of me. I remember bike riding once on a dirt road that ran parallel to a canal. A guy in a truck started following very closely behind me. He then sped up and blocked access to the street. Either I veer left and go into canal or right and ride through high grass and trees. Luckily I got away. Was never so scared in my life. He didn't say anything, but will never forget to look on his face and knew he was up to no good. This happened on sunny afternoon. Told my bf (ex) at the time and said he probably wanted to get to know me and I was overreacting. Screw him. I bought mace. It's a scary world and it pisses me the complaints were not taken seriously. Poor woman.

Mace is good but there are also other last ditch defense items a woman might consider

Mind you this happened in the mid 90's. Luckily more options for self defense nowadays.

R126 What a terrible experience. I’m glad you escaped. A man just attempted to abduct a woman in broad daylight in Chicago‘s West Loop. The increased video/security cams are making it easier for police to catch these creeps, but unfortunately doesn’t do much to deter the crime in the first place.

R121/r122 stop being such a coward. Learn how to protect and defend yourself and live your life. Hopefully you don’t have any loved ones that need you to protect them. They would be doomed.

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R60

I'd stare right back, and maybe draw my finger across my throat and point at him.

Gunshot wound to the head, blunt force trauma AND fentanyl in her system? Overkill…

Think he tried to drug her and she kept fighting?

R133 That’s what everyone is thinking, he drugged her to subdue her. I can’t imagine how much she suffered at the end.

Fry his ass!

R60 I would stare right back and fan a bunch of bills, point to the prison guard, and laugh, knowing that motherfucker is about to get some Chris Scarver justice.