I am in downtown Detroit and they are displaying the Gloryhole Pride Flag everywhere

It's ugly as fuck. The original flag was perfect. You can't please everyone.

All I see are the extraneous letters driving a wedge through the original pride flag. Very telling.

What's between the light blue and the black? Is that poo?

Isn't the white for pedos, oh, excuse me. MAPs? Or is that the pale pink and pale blue?

OP, it's straight male billionaires with autogynephilia who have created the Trans Industry. But blaming women for the harms men cause, is par for the course.

Martine Rothblatt: A Founding Father of the Transgender Empire

r4 No, it's clear they've taken a chapter out from radical feminists.

It’s not only straight white billionaires, there are a shit ton of rich white gay men on that list too, R4. Enough with the revisionism.

Sorry, but women are responsible for this. This is because too many women were given leadership roles in gay rights organizations. Women are obsessed with accommodating people. It’s basically all they can do. This Gloryhole Pride flag is a triumph in illustrating how a woman’s mind works.

You meant to say MTFs, right? Because they're not women, thanks.

Datalounge is 99% white gay male “progressive”, 58, and pro-trans. I think women play a role, but not to the degree of white gay men (and straight men).

I'm not saying that there isn't some truth in that, R8. Some women are responsible but so are some gay men.

Is it the overall drop in testosterone that has made gay men too impotent to stand up to this trans ideology?

I still see gay men speaking out against it and against the MAP encroachment and enabling.

These efforts to rename or redo significant symbols or names is very foolish. Reminds me of how they renamed Lakeshore Drive in Chicago to Du Sable Drive (after the black Frenchman who discovered America). Everyone still calls it Lakeshore Drive. And they renamed Boystown as Northalsted. But everyone still calls it Boystown.

The flag is literally showing intersectionalists shoving their exhausting asses into proceedings. This is "queer" community B.S.

"Overall drop in testosterone responsible for gay men not standing up for themselves."

Please. This attitude is why gay men shoot themselves in the foot every time. Isn't this the same old prejudice of gay men hating everything feminine -- and therefore themselves?

R4 is a right-wing piece of shit and of course, links to the fucking Federalist.

Rightwing or not, it’s correct.

Oh, I forgot. With you everything is okay, no matter what, as long as it's anti-trans.

I am anti-trans, and knowing who’s behind the trans movement is important.

[quote] his attitude is why gay men shoot themselves in the foot every time. Isn't this the same old prejudice of gay men hating everything feminine

The drop in testosterone isn't just confined to gay men - it is men in general where they are seeing that phenomenon. Retract your claws.

1982: multicolored handkerchiefs.

2022: multicolored Pride flag.

We need something that is just GAY. Something that doesn’t cater to skin color or gender identity. Just GAY. Don’t we deserve that? All this black brown black brown women women trans black black black injustice equity black black womyn BS makes me give zero fucks about any of it.

R13 It’s Queer Corp doing everything they can to make their non-profits profitable

[quote] Isn't this the same old prejudice of gay men hating everything feminine -- and therefore themselves?

You are an idiot and a cunt.

You're in downtown Detroit OP? Is this a call for help? If you type in your coordinates we'll send help.

I like “Gloryhole Pride Flag,” OP. I’ll be stealing that.

But this exact ugly Pride Flag was created by a white gay man from Portland! who is now "they/them" or something...

He gets money for it too.

Was he gay or a “queer”?

[quote] This Gloryhole Pride flag is a triumph in illustrating how a woman’s mind works.

r8 Oh yes this is such a woman's face.

[quote] The Progress Pride flag was developed in 2018 by non-binary American artist and designer [bold]Daniel Quasar[/bold] (who uses xe/xyr pronouns). "My name is Daniel Quasar and I am a queer non-binary celestial object having a human experience." "Daniel Quasar is a multi-disciplinary designer, artist, and musician out of Portland, OR."

That really sucks. ^ What a desecration to the original Pride flag. This generation of people are disgusting.

The new flag BLOWS. It's terrible.

The old flag is perfect. It's a rainbow. By the very nature of a rainbow, it already includes everyone.

The new flag BLOWS. And it's UGLY.

Different Pride flags, their origins and meanings:

And such "basic straight women with no brain" like Lululemon represents are merely following (very late on the bandwagon) the latest "what's right, dictated by the progressive ppl on the right side of history" like this "Gay Star News" very much pushing "XE" in front of our eyes and promoting this Gloryhole Pride Flag back in 2018:

[quote] Daniel Quasar is based in Portland, Oregon, US. Quasar identifies as a ‘queer non-binary demiguy’ and prefers xe/xem/xyr pronouns, reports LGBTQ Nation. [bold]Xe[/bold] created the flag

I call it the Division Flag, as it represents the TQs driving a wedge into the rainbow flag that was designed to represent all equally, and forcing their priority onto the rest of us.

Just your regular reminder, R21, that Lesbians are GAY women.

You know, GAY, as in same sex attracted. As in HOMOSEXUAL.

Trans Women AREN'T Women!

People can call themselves whatever they want today. Men are women. Lesbians are gay.

[quote] Disruptions and Diversions

[quote] I remember a number of such episodes in the early days of the Gay Liberation Front, in the fall of 1969. Women we had never seen before would come in and deliver tirades against the GLF men; they would say that not only were gay men more sexist or more male chauvinist than straight men, but men in GLF were among the worst of all. These charges were unfair and untrue, for GLF had always been in solidarity with women's liberation, and women had played leading roles in GLF from the beginning — but such charges had a certain demoralizing effect. Some of the men felt that rather than acting against our oppressors — for example, picketing the Village Voice — or publishing the first gay liberation paper, Come Out! — instead we should turn our attention inward to confront the enemy which was: Ourselves!

[quote] At the first gay conference at Rutgers in 1970, the major panel on the last day was disrupted by a group of women who demanded that all proceedings come to a halt. They charged that the panel was “elitist” and “sexist” (although half of the panelists were women); their main ostensible grievance was that on a table in the hall, provided for leaflets and free literature, were copies of Gay newspaper, in which they had found a reproduction of a beautiful, lush, reclining female nude, painted in the style of classic romanticism. This, they charged, was designed to titillate men, and was degrading to women. Overlooked was the fact that the picture illustrated an article written by a lesbian, and that it was unlikely the editors of Gay had intended to convert their male readers to heterosexuality.

[quote] The conference organizers were cruelly attacked, apparently for the sin of not having policed and censored the free literature table. It was a senseless, abusive, and thuggish disruption; the main organizer of the conference was reduced to tears, and the women as well as the men on the panel were moved to call the disrupters “fascists”, an epithet that was not unjustified. For the most specious of reasons, a beautiful and mellow gay conference — one of the very first — had been turned into a nightmare.

[quote] There was the first international gay liberation conference in Edinburgh, where women discovered evidence of “sexism” and demanded that the conference change its focus from legislative reform to “confronting sexism”. Laws, they argued, only affected men, and therefore it was sexist to concentrate upon things like repealing sodomy statutes. A majority of the men went along with this demand, and that was the end of an internationally coordinated campaign to change the laws. It's amazing it should be considered trivial that after two millennia, homosexual men are still criminals.

[quote] A certain pattern emerges. The people in power do not like movements for social change. When such movements are in their infancy, they will try to destroy or divert them. When movements have grown large and viable, then they will try to render them innocuous through co-optation.

of Women's Declaration International, the primary organizaiton behind Get The L Out... an excerpt from a book by one of it's founders :

[quote] People can call themselves whatever they want today. Men are women. Lesbians are gay.

Wait. What? You don't think lesbians are gay?

R38, to be frank ALL those causes - civil rights, environmental, peace, gay rights - were led my mostly very sexist males. Maybe you had to be there to appreciate the openly misogynistic crap going on.

Lesbians are lesbians.