Just because I'm in the mood

I only drink High Point on a Tuesday morning.

she's terrifying. How did this ghoul ever got dick I wonder.

Lauren Bacall's High Point commercials are among my favorite things. And, yes R2, even when casually hawking coffee, she comes across as terrifying.

And this rich cah-lah!

And flayvah!

You can practically see the smudges on the lens from the Vaseline, for crying out loud.

It's the coffee of the year!

I think I'll watch THE FAN tonite. is it really bad ? or so bad it's good ?

We can ascertain from her awkward, perfunctory mug-cradling that she never suffered from fibro.

The Fan is definitely so bad it's good territory. Of course you have to buy that hunky Michael Biehn is in a murderous lust for our crone-ish heroine, Miss Bacall.

R7. Do it! I wouldn’t call it “bad”, just campy and silly- plus you get to see a lot of circa 1980 NYC.

She just rattles her lines off, no pause until supping from the mug. Ham!

I read Michael Craig's memoir recently (good read). When he arrived on the set of APPOINTMENT WITH DEATH her welcome was "Why did they have to fly you from England ? anyone here could have played your part ". LOL. why bother saying Hello and how nice to see you?

R7 Just so you know, she brings you hearts, not diamonds, accompanied of course with flava!

"When he arrived on the set of APPOINTMENT WITH DEATH her welcome was "Why did they have to fly you from England ? anyone here could have played your part ".

Some of these old Hollywood types were absolutely toxic. Katharine Hepburn was another

Because we ALWAYS want to know what hot beverages a foghorn drinks.

Oh shit ! manners !

Wait? High Point was both instant and decaffeinated? [barf!]

Miss Bacall, how could you?

R14, to whom was that addressed?

The Dakota ain't cheap

[quote]Wait? High Point was both instant and decaffeinated? [barf!] Miss Bacall, how could you?

Because I'm quite active enough, thank you!

[quote] How did this ghoul ever got dick I wonder.

She knew how to whistle. You know how to whistle don’t you?

OK, watching THE FAN now, I like it , you can't take your eyes off of her, the rehearsal scenes are fab, but the guy is really bad. He's ruining the movie. Why didn't they fire him right after the first dailies ? and he's too young, This part screams for Tab Hunter

Michael Craig as per R12. R18

I felt The Fan was a poor man's Eyes of Laura Mars.

The most fascinating thing about that particular High Point commercial to me is always the interior of the Rolls Royce. Did anyone really have a table with a little lamp on it in their Rolls Royce back in those days, or was that just the conceit of this commercial? Where did the lamp plug in? Wouldn't it have made more sense and been safer to bring the coffee in a thermos rather than in a hot pot, since she's the only one drinking it?

Also, why is she wearing a silver lamé jumpsuit if she's going to have to change into her costume when she gets to the theater?

I love that back then (@1980) you could imagine a Broadway actress as the height of glamour.

They need to bring these commercials back, starring Patti Lupone this time. It would start with her onstage screaming at a photographing audience member, "HOW DARE YOU! HOW DARE YOU!" Then it would segue to Patti backstage in her dressing room: "Let's face it, caffeine can make you tense! That's why I should instead only drink High Point!"

same R25, the lamp kills me

I love her apartment. The terrace !!!

I meant in the movie

From a comment at r29’s link:

“On a different historical note, IMDB states that The Fan premiered on May 15, 1981. The Center for Disease Control website states that in June 5, 1981, the first reporting on what would be known as AIDS appeared in the Mortality and Mortality Weekly Report. The Fan is the very last look at Broadway before everything changed forever.”

Ms Bacall was mostly known for her work on screen.

HEARTS NOT DIAMONDS!!!

Did Dr. Seuss or the animators that work for him use latter era Bacall as their model for the Grinch. She looks just like him!

Proctor & Gamble product - so her coffee commercials aired endlessly during P&G soaps

[quote] Did Dr. Seuss or the animators that work for him use latter era Bacall as their model for the Grinch. She looks just like him!

Haha! Ginch-like creature.

[quote] Also, why is she wearing a silver lamé jumpsuit

Because she's LAUREN BACALL and you're NOT

IF YOU LIKE SALLY ROSS IN NEVER SAY NEVER , YOU'LL ALSO PROBABLY ENJOY GARY THE GORILLA PASSING A KIDNEY STONE

THE FAN tries, and fails to be too many things. A Bacall tribute (no excuse for the disaster "heart, not diamonds" fiasco. Lauren Bacall could do better than that. It's not even professional). A reflection on fame and pop culture, Applause meets opening night, meets the eyes of laura mars, and a gay movie. The relationship between the two leads doesn't make sense. could have been a good movie, and even a classic, if they had cast Michelle Pfeiffer as the stalker.

"heart, not diamonds"

Sung by someone with the voice of Moe Szyslak.

I recently read Humphrey Bogart fought demons, namely his desire for COCK. Inquiring minds want to know, do you think Lauren rimmed Hump?

I love The Fan, and while it is a definite curio, it’s clearly not high art. If I remember the story correctly, Michael Biehn said that he tried to give Lauren a bouquet of flowers when he came to the set on the first day of shooting, and she wouldn’t accept them and I don’t think she even spoke to him outside of filming.

He was quite naive to think a notorious cunt like Betty would accept a treacly gift like that, but her dismissive behavior of him otherwise is still unprofessional IMO. When they filmed their fight scene at the end of the movie, he accidentally hurt her, which only furthered her wrath.

Bogart when young confessed to his friends that he wanted cock so much he almost comitted suicide. He had a very interesting relationship with Leslie Howard, that needs to be explored. Calling him babe, and all sort of homoerotic jokes, even in films, like STAND-IN. He called his daughter Leslie Howard Bogart for crying out loud. Even Cary Grant didn't call his daughter Randolph Scott Grant

Bogart, even at his most ragged, was a very sexy man. The thought of him getting dicked down is hot.

R41 I wanted our relationship IRL to reflects our characters' . I wanted to help a young actor give his best. I'm generous like that. Anyone I ever worked with will tell you. (just don't ask my hairdresser though, poor girl is nuts)

R41 damn that’s great stuff. She probably only did the film for money and took it out on Biehn, so to speak. She came to like the film years later, or so she says. I love The Fan, and enjoyed it for what it was. Her cunty behavior is legendary. It’s little wonder she lost the Oscar.

R45 she lost the oscar because Binoche was a Weinstein girl. It was so scandalous, that they gave her an honorary oscar for nothing to make up for it.

Mille grazie, OP! That might be my favorite of her High Point ads, because of the exorbitant detail of the little lamp table with its variety of cookies, the suggestion of an actual noisy, garishly lit street outside rather than back projection or whatever, and the odd pauses and repetitiveness in her dialogue (suggestive of multiple decaf-addled takes?).

My pleasure dear R47, I'm glad you 're enjoying this thread

R45 it was a studio film and there was an ostensible financial motive for her agreeing to star in the film, but she also said the original screenplay was quite different and the film that they ended up making was not what she'd signed up for.

Now that I'm thinking about it, I can't remember if she refused to accept the flowers from Biehn, or if he saw her throwing them in the trash after he gave them to her. It was something along those lines. I'll have to go back and re-watch the interview (it's on the Blu-ray release of the film that came out a few years ago). He was still quite gracious about the whole thing in the interview from what I recall.

I would have loved to have been in the audience of "Applause!" the night that Ethel Merman was here and gasped "Jesus Christ!" when Bacall began to sing. That story is up there with the legend of Joey Luft singing along to "Everything's coming up Roses" when Judy took him to see "Gypsy" which caused Ethel to fight the giggles on stage because she knew who it was.

The movie is obviouslty built around her life and career, and for the first time, she was the center of it. It was the first and last "Bacall movie" and it flopped. She must have been devastated; I think that's why she tried to distance herself from it. She couldn't have been better, but the truth is, she was not interesting enough to carry a movie all by herself. She needed a heavyweight partner, be it bogart, Monroe or Peck.

R50 " BETTY, PICK A NOTE !"

R46 if it wasn’t Binoche that year, someone else would’ve beat Bacall anyway. TEP won nine Oscars that year. Clearly a lot of love for it. Weinstein didn’t hold a gun to voters heads forcing them to vote for it.

R49 oh yeah I had forgotten the thing about the script changing. Still shitty behavior on Bacall’s part. She probably didn’t see Biehn on her level of celebrity anyway. She probably would’ve kept Jim Garners flowers her other male co star from the film. Or maybe not. Cunt.

R46 Bacall had won everything, she was the absolute favorite that year, no question, even Binoche aknowledged that she was so sure to lose to her, that she didn't even prepare a speech. Weinstein did it, you know how he worked the AA business

Betty has inspired a new generation of coffee lovers

R54 Glenn Close won everything too for the Wife, before losing the Oscar. And she’s not the cunt Bacall was. Weinsteins promotion muscling or whatever there was of it didn’t yield Oscar gold everytime (Gangs Of NY). I think if voters feel manipulated they ain’t gonna vote for your film and it can backfire. It’s a secret ballot. If they were industry friends of Weinstein and if he tried to strong arm them into voting for one of his films over another, when his film lost they can lie and say oh I voted for your film Harvey! He has no way of knowing. Its more of a coincidence than anything some of his films went on to win.

R25, I've had some experience with luxury cars (used to work a small antique auto show) and the table and lamp are in fact quite believable. Rolls Royce in particular offered a great deal of customized interior work. While I doubt the car was Bacall's, it wouldn't have been out of the question for an actress of her era - who might be reading a script with a costar or doing other social business en route to a set or theater - to have a back seat compartment that doubled as a small office or parlor of sorts.

My favorite vintage car interior feature was a limousine belonging to the Fanny Farmer candy heiress, that had spring-loaded boxes of chocolates concealed between the seats. They were filled every day and the little paper cups that you'd normally see in the box were Art Deco aluminum designs. Too bad the candy was shit.

"Deep, rich cullaah".

On the cutting room floor were the takes in which the limo hit a pothole and Betty scalded her lap and cursed like a sailor in her native accent.

It speaks volumes that the two plays Lauren did got film versions with other actors: "Goodbye Charlie" (the source for "Switch") with Debbie Reynolds and "Cactus Flower" with Ingrid Bergman. At least Lauren got to do "Applause!" for TV even if it is pretty bad and indicates that it's one of the worst Tony winning musicals ever.

[quote]I would have loved to have been in the audience of "Applause!" the night that Ethel Merman was here and gasped "Jesus Christ!" when Bacall began to sing.

Lee Roy Reams, who was there with Ethel, told that story in one of the Facebook theater discussion groups and said the show was "Woman of the Year," and that Ethel's reaction was indeed "Jesus Christ!"

Ethel was doing "Hello, Dolly" at the same time Bacall was appearing in "Applause."

R42 I suspect Bogie sucked a cock or two during his time in the Navy.

Why was she such a cunt? She had EVERYTHING, even a goddamned Dakota apartment!

Which of you DL cunts wrote this article??

R62 in all seriousness, it is a valid and interesting question. She came across as affable at times and didn’t seem totally cold blooded, but there was a definite mean streak in her, especially in her later years. She really seemed to have a chip on her shoulder, but I don’t know why.

Director extraordinaire David DeCoteau is a fan of The Fan.

She sang bass in the church choir.

R66 I think you mean the synagogue

R62 R64, when you love someone, and that someone loves you too, and you're life partners, and that person dies, you resent the entire world to be alive when he's not.

It's [bold]DEGAFFINATED[/bold]

[quote]Why was she such a cunt?

I love the story about the sassy gay waiter who wasn't having it when she complained about getting a "bad potato" with her dinner order.

R68 that will inevitably happen to one of the parties in every spouse/partner relationship that has occurred and will ever occur on this planet—if you’re lucky enough to even have one. I’m sure Bogart’s death devastated her, but that’s not a valid reason for being a mean bitch to everyone for the next 50 years of your life. If that was the singular root of her sourness, she was not a very emotionally mature person and didn’t learn much in her life.

I know little about the way she treated others.

R71 my beloved died 20 nyars ago but I'm still taking it out on everybody alive, and will for ever. Can I be affable and charming ? in spades. Do I behave like a sociopath and a motherfucking asshole on wheels ? Fuck yeah ! after what i've been through, y'all can take it. And will too

No, we'll just avoid you like the plague, r73.

R73 = Betty writing us from 1977

That old drunk queen Truman Capote told Andy Warhol that he exchanged blowjobs with Bogart. I wonder Capote ever told hambone Bacall that while drunk and high on Quaaludes at Studio 54.

It wasn't just Bogart - it was everything. She was part of an aesthetic that peaked with Crawford and Hepburn and it's not a surprise that she was good friends with the latter. After Bogart no one knew what to do with her, herself included. Film Noir was over and Monroe's curves and Taylor's eyes were the new gold standard - not some hard-boiled chick who looked like she had more angles than the Empire State Building. I think she had genuine feelings for Sinatra and admitted as much...but that blew up. Robards was a disaster from Day 1 and probably where she actually learned a lot of her abusive behavior (he was evidently one mean, truly embittered fuck). The meanness probably came from feeling that she'd missed out on opportunities that were, ironically, really never there at all to begin with. I never heard she was difficult when she was younger - she seemed to have a pretty good reputation into the 60s.

That said, she put in some good performances in some top-notch films and as time passed I found I always preferred her look to that of her more-or-less contemporaries. Curves sag, angles don't, and her Mrs. Hubbard in Murder in the Orient Express is a great illustration of how to completely explain a character by uttering the final line of their dialogue.

Bogart being gay? Sure.

Bogart blowing Capote? Yeah, right after Daffy Duck.

Capote telling Bacall Bogart blew him? Unlikely, since there was never the headline: "CAPOTE HOSPITALIZED FOR REMOVAL OF HIGH-HEELED SHOE".

R78 I would pay serious money for footage of 5’9” Betty punting that troll across a room