PINOCCHIO

PiWOKEcchio.

The Blue Fairy scares me.

I didn't realize Italy was so multicultural in the early 1800s.

Also, it will suck.

My guess is that in five years, the kid who plays Pinocchio will be insufferable, either starring in a sitcom or as a Disney pop-star.

[quote] I didn't realize Italy was so multicultural in the early 1800s.

It is, when we RE-WRITE HISTORY!

What is wrong with a theatrical release of the original animated film?

None of these live action remakes have had any magic to them.

Not one.

This one actually looks pretty good R7.

Also, it doesn't hurt that Tom Hanks is in it.

I think it'll bring in a ton of money.

Why does this look good?

It will bomb

I looked at the IMDB. I know why. ^

It's a nice mix of reality and CGI R9.

Probably more graphically appealing than any other version of Pinocchio done before it.

It's a feast for the eyes.

Big hit. Not a HUGE hit, but a big hit nonetheless.

Love the black Blue Fairy. Why do all fairies need to be white?

The script was written by Simon Farnaby who plays Julian on Ghosts and also wrote the Paddington films

Ouch, the CGI when Pinocchio is hopping down the street.. lighting wrong, no shadow..

R7 I agree, EXCEPT for Alice in Wonderland (2010)

I don't think anyone will notice, R15.

Unless you're a CGI expert.

[quote]I have a feeling it's going to crack $1Billion and break many records.

[quote]I think it'll bring in a ton of money.

[quote]Big hit. Not a HUGE hit, but a big hit nonetheless.

Apparently people missed that this is going exclusively to Disney Plus.

This trailer is the definition of nightmare fuel

Tom Hanks on Disney Plus?

What is this world coming to???

I found Pinocchio's performance to be rather forced and wooden.

***BUH DUMP BUMP! CHHH***

Two Pinocchio films this year

looks awful... including the Blue Fairy.

And I am finally sick of Hank's schtick. I don't see the character, just him.

Finocchio.

[quote] This trailer is the definition of nightmare fuel

What does this mean?

Go woke, go broke

A black Blue Fairy? Dr. Jordan Peterson is going to have a heart attack over this film.

another Pinocchio scheduled for release in December 2022

R28 just watched the trailer: Looks beautiful!

It premieres on Disney+ The same day as theaters so no billion dollar box office for it. Folks will just watch at home. And yes that’s money but it doesn’t count towards box office totals.

A black fairy in Pinocchio. Are we allowed to call it blackwashing?

Jk, I know the answer. Troll, Nazi etc...

It’s always so good to see the 13% represented so throughly and it’s being done in such a subtle way. Superb.

It's very dark. Meaning, no matter how high I turned the brightness up on my laptop I couldn't see a damn thing.

Data did it better.

[quote]I didn't realize Italy was so multicultural in the early 1800s.

I know, R3!! [bold]I mean, that Fox (and a cat sidekick) waling around on their hind legs wearing clothes and talking... in early 1800's Italy?!?![/bold]

I seriously doubt that's historically accurate to Italy in the early 1800s. It's just terrible!! I don't think talking Foxes were allowed to even wear top hats in Europe back then, let alone a full outfit with a cape!!

It's woke-ism gone mad.

All these Disney live-action remakes have been unnecessary and soulless cash grabs using big Hollywood celebrities to pique interest. Instead of making more faithful adaptations of the source material which would be different, they simply retell the animated adaptation. The Broadway musical adaptations by Disney show more creativity and deviation from the original animated films.

Will Pinocchio be a trans woman of color?

I’m a real boy now!

Elliot^.

In the new film, Pleasure Island is a leather bar where Pinocchio tries to seduce the human boys into sleeping with a wooden puppet.

Have the Qanon loons commented yet?

Have they included the songs?

There was a stage version done at UK’s National Theatre that had giant puppets as the human characters, and expanded the song score. Looked fascinating, but didn’t progress any further.

R13 They’re not. The Absinthe Fairy is green.

Is Tom Hanks morphing into Leo McKern?

With Cynthia Erivo as the Black -- sorry, the Blue Fairy.

[quote]With Cynthia Erivo as the Black -- sorry, the Blue Fairy.

How hilarious you are.

I'm just glad the classic story of Pinocchio is about TRANSformation...

[quote]where Pinocchio tries to seduce the human boys into sleeping with a wooden puppet.

So, he lies a little tells the truth a little. Lies a lot. Tells the truth a little. Lies a lot. Tells the truth.

LOL 48. I remember screaming "tell the truth, tell a lie! Tell the truth! Tell a lie! Tell a lie!" Ended up in the ER with a bad case of anal splinters.

The original animated film is a work of art. The early Walt era movies were basically crafted to test the limits of animation. They weren't made completely for-profit but to prove animation as a legitimate art medium. They looked like moving paintings. Fantasia and Pinocchio even weren't box office hits and Disney struggled to recover their losses. Dumbo and Bambi were more successful but Walt Disney's visions were always very ambitious. Alice in Wonderland and Sleeping Beauty both flopped and took a decade to become cult classics. Imagine if Fantasia was a success, animation in America would probably be more like Japan, Italy or France where animated films for mature audiences are normalized.

All that is true, R50, but Disney's first animated feature-length film, "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs," was an enormous success.

Seems like they are missing out not releasing this in theaters.

It's gettig bad reviews.

I wonder why?

The trailer linked to at R53 is indeed pretty terrible. I saw another one that featured Pinocchio much more prominently. See below.

That said, I don't understand the comment that this trailer features "what looks to be a female version of Pinocchio." We only get a glimpse of him at the every end of the trailer, and he doesn't look female to me. Nor does he look to be female in the other trailer.

It was cute. Nothing memorable. Hanks doesn't have much screentime. The animation was not bad - I specifically looked for shadows and they did not miss even one.

Does Tom Hanks have to be in everything?

I’m watching it as I write….love it so far

[quote] Does Tom Hanks have to be in everything?

HA!

I was just asking this the other day.

Give some other actors a chance, for fuck's sake!!!

R58 Yeah really

R57 I'm watching Pinocchio as I'm vacuuming

Such a creepy story. Even as a kid I thought it was weird.

R5 Italians in the 1800s were brown skinned. They didn’t look like what many look like today.

Also, Italy had black people in it.

Also, this movie doesn’t have many black people at all. The Fairy is just that, a Fairy, not an Italian native. Besides her I don’t recall many black people at all.

Tom Hanks is perfect casting for GePEDO

The Qloon has poked its head out of the cave.

It was pretty good. I generally like this story though, about learning to do the right thing. The blue fairy's wings were out of this world.

I liked it a lot. Surprisingly because I hate almost every live action remake. “Beauty and the Beast” was shit. and I loved the animated film. Same with The Lion King, Cinderella, etc.

The Jungle Book was pretty good.

I personally hated Alice in Wonderland.

This one was good although too watered down.

[quote] Italians in the 1800s were brown skinned. They didn’t look like what many look like today.

God what an ignorant statement. They magically just "changed" to lighter skin in a few generations?

Italians today are the same as100 years ago.

R67 nope. All the white people from other parts of Europe have colonized Italy and made it whiter and blonder than it ever was. Italians always had dark features

Old photos of Italians from the early 1900s/late 1800s

Yup if even a curmudgeon like me wants you see it, the film will surely make a billion.

[quote] All the white people from other parts of Europe have colonized Italy and made it whiter and blonder than it ever was. Italians always had dark features

Interesting.

I think the same thing is done in Mexico.

Most Mexicans I see nowdays are very fair skinned.

And now that many are inter-marrying with white Americans, I think that Mexicans will become even whiter.

Think FROY. He's a good example of this.

An interesting book is Long Island Italians

It has many photos of Italian immigrants who migrated to NY many years ago. Most of them look Arab or Mexican.

This has some photos of 1800s Italians also.

One last link.

I am always blown away by the whitewashing and watering down of Italian history in both Italy and America these days.

R5 black people were in Italy in the 1800s. And African Americans used to go there in the 1800s.

Jiminy Cricket will now be played by a moth but you motherfuckers better pretend he's a fucking cricket!

[[[Spoiler]]]

Pinocchio escapes Stromboli's cage by lying, lying, lying, and lying some more until his nose grows long enough to reach a keyring hanging on the wall. Salvation through deceit is the moral of this new Pinocchio, who doesn't turn into a real boy at the end because what's inside is all that really matters, which turns out to be as much deceit as needed to gain what he wanted. His lying becomes a super-power. Lovely moral, isn't it?

My favorite movie as a boy. Haven't seen the original since then. I think I will re-watch it first.

Is it just a coincidence that it's Tom Hanks who's playing Geppetto?

There’s a huge editing jump from Pinocchio being with the fox and then next scene he’s on Stromboli’s stage. It feels like a scene or two ended up on the cutting room floor.

The ongoing obsession over whether Italians actually qualify as "white" is the most insane topic on DL, where insane topics are the norm.

Just for the record my grandfather was born in Italy in the 1890s and he didn't have dark skin, nor did his relatives, and I'm so sick of this bullshit.

R70 You literally have a picture there of a blond child so what is your point?

Does Wendy Williams play Pinocchio? She has the legs for it.

R85 he does change to a real boy in the end. Rewatch it. It’s subtle. Watch his legs and arms as he’s walking away

Next up, a remake of The Sword In The Stone with TOM HANKS as Merlin...then a remake of Cinderella with TOM HANKS as the evil stepmother, then a remake of Bambi with TOM HANKS as Thumper, then...

Tom’s talk-singing is awful.

The "Italians are not white" trolls are likely fat townie incels from a flyover county.

What remakes has Tom Hanks been in for Disney that are making you all go on and on about him being in everything?

I was forced to watch this a few days ago and i was happy that it wasn’t nearly as sad as the original. Probably because these live-action movies lack the heart and soul of the originals. At any rate, I was happy and I didn’t even mind Cynthia Erivo‘s presence as much as I usually do.

She was in like 3 minutes. I don’t even see most people mentioning her but on here. Definitely not a Little Mermaid situation

[quote]What remakes has Tom Hanks been in for Disney that are making you all go on and on about him being in everything?

Speaking for myself, I was joking that he WILL be in everything for Disney, since he is generally in so many films (not just Disney). He even PLAYED Walt Disney.

Can't be worse than Pauly Shore's Pinocchio.

[quote]All the white people from other parts of Europe have colonized Italy and made it whiter and blonder than it ever was. Italians always had dark features

No matter how many times you keep repeating such ignorant statements, they are not true. First of all, "white people" have not "colonized" Italy over the years, and anyway, are you trying to say that darker-skinned people haven't done the same thing? And, of course, norther Italians have historically been much fairer than southern Italians.

R102 if you want to remain ignorant, that’s on you. Most Italians looked Arab. They didn’t look white outside of some Northern towns.

It's why northern italians hate southern italians. Lazy mixed race people.

[quote]If you want to remain ignorant, that’s on you. Most Italians looked Arab. They didn’t look white outside of some Northern towns.

So you keep insisting this is true, and that it changed because (you think) ONLY fairer-skinned, fairer-haired people moved to Italy and intermarried with the natives over the decades? Do you know how stupid that makes you sound?

According to you, how far back do we have to go to a time when "most Italians looked Arab?" Because, for example, in photographs of Verdi and Puccini from the late 19th and early 20th century, they certainly don't look dark-skinned or "Arab." And you can't get much more Italian than Verdi and Puccini.

[quote] And, of course, norther Italians have historically been much fairer than southern Italians.

That's because Northern Italians inter-married with Northern Europeans, and Southern Italians inter-married with Middle Easterners and North Africans.

It only had to do with proximity and geography.

DUH.

[quote] It's why northern italians hate southern italians. Lazy mixed race people.

Actually, that's just ignorant racism, pretty typical of the Italian peninsula.

White = good. Dark = bad.

*yawn*

Verdi was from Parma, very high up North of Italy.

Puccini was from Lucca, also high up North in Italy.

“ They didn’t look white outside of some Northern towns.”

Clearly you didn’t read where I said the high North was where the whiter Italians were.

Also, the white Italians still had a very specific look to them. They didn’t look like many of the people who are “Italian” today. They had dark eyes with specific features, typically a very specific nose. Italian noses is something we’ve said on here and you wanted to argue that also. Your arguments don’t change history.

OP, I see your feeling was misleading.

Why does the fairy got to be blue? I mean. Blue = depressed, what are they trying to say?

Maybe it would have been more successful had they remade "The Erotic Adventures of Pinocchio" from 1971.

"It's Not His Nose That Grows!"

Not with Tom Hanks R110. Jesus, not with Tom Hanks….

Um, in Northern climates in Europe with little sun much of the year, people had fairer skin, and in more southerly climates, with more sun, generally people had darker skin. It doesn't make them negores, that is a different race. Nor does it mean they intermarried with negroes, since then they would look more like negores, and they don't, they look like darker-skinner Europeans.

*negroes

*skinned (sorry, I can't type)

They looked like Arabs.

White people don’t turn dark brown.

My father was Belgian and he was darker-skinned than my mother, who was half Italian, or her father, who was full Italian and had blue eyes and reddish blond hair, and was from Naples.

R117 cool. Photos?

R118 Sure, when you post photos of your family.

This thread is about MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

Belgium is filled with non-white men too. Just they’re a small population.

This man and his family are from Belgium.

Another one from Belgium.

All these posters with 1950s attitudes about what constitutes whiteness need to head to the nearest grease fire.

R121 Interesting, except my parents and I have all done DNA tests and we're all totally European. Not that it matters. But your assertions are tiresome and innacurate.

[quote]Another one from Belgium.

Noice.

DL thinks everyone south of France is black.