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Trans woman raped 14 times in men’s prison finally released after suing state twice

A Black trans women who alleged she was sexually assaulted more than 14 times while incarcerated in a men’s prison has been freed.

Ashley Diamond was released from a Georgia, US prison on 1 August and will serve the remainder of her 12-year sentence on parole.

Diamond was sentenced on burglary charges in 2012 after attempting to pawn a saw stolen by her then-boyfriend, according to the Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) which represented her along with the Southern Poverty Law Center.

She has sued Georgia twice over the abusive conditions she faced while in prison – in 2015, which resulted in the Georgia Department of Corrections (GDC) being rebuked by a federal court and the US Department of Justice for its treatment of trans people.

In December 2020, Diamond filed a lawsuit against the Department of Corrections for a second time, after alleging it failed to protect her from sexual assault and did not provide her with adequate healthcare while she was in prison.

The 44-year-old said she is “elated to be released” but “still damaged” by her time in prison and “worried” about the people she left behind.

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by Anonymousreply 102September 3, 2022 7:14 PM

😐

by Anonymousreply 1August 31, 2022 2:24 AM

This seems to be an undercover argument for allowing trans women in female prisons.

She seems rather vivacious, considering past events.

by Anonymousreply 2August 31, 2022 2:35 AM

What was he in for?

Hmmmmm?

by Anonymousreply 3August 31, 2022 2:38 AM

Which prison? Are they taking new applicants?

by Anonymousreply 4August 31, 2022 2:42 AM

So that he or men like him can rape 14 times other women in women's prison, then?

by Anonymousreply 5August 31, 2022 2:47 AM

Yes, keep posting here, shitheads. The rest of us can block you so much easier when your bigotry is on full display.

by Anonymousreply 6August 31, 2022 2:55 AM

He should have been put into isolation with other inmates that are vulnerable to population.

by Anonymousreply 7August 31, 2022 2:56 AM

Correction: He should have been put into isolation with other inmates that are from vulnerable populations.

by Anonymousreply 8August 31, 2022 2:57 AM

So a man was raped in male prison. Sounds like a male violence problem that men need to sort out amongst themselves.

by Anonymousreply 9August 31, 2022 2:59 AM

Trying to pawn a saw? Had it once belonged to Paul Bunyan?

by Anonymousreply 10August 31, 2022 2:59 AM

What about all the flaming gay men or straight twinks who are raped? They don't get justice?

by Anonymousreply 11August 31, 2022 3:11 AM

[QUOTE]Diamond was sentenced on burglary charges in 2012 after attempting to pawn a saw stolen by her then-boyfriend,

Never mind the trans angle to the story. TWELVE years for this? There are people serving less time for manslaughter across the U.S.

by Anonymousreply 12August 31, 2022 3:11 AM

If you do the crime, you do the time

by Anonymousreply 13August 31, 2022 3:12 AM

What's she complaining about? Were they ugly?

by Anonymousreply 14August 31, 2022 3:14 AM

R11 No one...anywhere...is saying anything like that.

How small and hateful a brain do you have to have in order to think that rescuing one victim automatically means a huge number of other victims are somehow NOT saved?

Do you think cops can only jail one bad guy at a time? Do you think the world's hospitals can only heal one patient at a time? Do you think if the fat lady in front of you at Wegman's gets to the eclairs first, the others on the table will all disappear in black magic?

by Anonymousreply 15August 31, 2022 3:18 AM

R12 there's no way we are getting the full story on charges and sentence. Perhaps he was on parole at the time and I think there's some info left out.

Regardless, this seems like another hustle. My understanding is that rape happens in prison. I find it disgusting, but it's a fact of prison life. Will this set a precedent now for all inmates raped in that state? Doubt it. Seems like political factors freed this guy.

by Anonymousreply 16August 31, 2022 3:18 AM

Yeah.

This thread is a perfect example as to why I’m pretty much over this forum.

by Anonymousreply 17August 31, 2022 3:24 AM

R16 Ever since PREA, reported rapes in Georgia prisons (as in most states) have plummeted drastically. It still happens occasionally, but it's a lot harder these days and the penalties for inmates and administrators are much more severe. An inmate who is raped while in state custody now has many more legal avenues to sue for a transfer, or just to sue for money from the negligent system. Prisons known to be hotbeds of un-investigated rapes can also lose funding. A transfer or an early release can occur if the inmate has a strong enough case to involve state or federal authorities, and this one sounds like a doozy.

I find it disgusting that you know nothing about this inmate's story or circumstances, and yet you mis-gender her, propose that she's some sort of deeper criminal, and shrug off her repeated rapes as just something that happens in prison.

Your understanding of prison is warped, outdated, and full of shit.

by Anonymousreply 18August 31, 2022 3:25 AM

Why are so many trans in jail?

by Anonymousreply 19August 31, 2022 3:27 AM

It’s great how the trans movement never protects truly vulnerable trans women like this one but whimsy angry white men with sick fetishes for dressing up like little girls are indulged.

by Anonymousreply 20August 31, 2022 3:28 AM

R19 Generally speaking, it's because so many trans people are desperately poor and live on the fringes of society. Many of them have no social support or family, and have to resort to sex work to earn a living. Many are also school dropouts, teen runaways, or victims of severe childhood abuse.

Poverty. Lack of social capital or supports. Lack of education. Undiagnosed or untreated emotional trauma. Rejection or abuse by caregivers, and a general feeling of rejection from the broader society.

It's a pretty potent and predictable recipe for criminal behavior.

by Anonymousreply 21August 31, 2022 3:32 AM

R18 I just googled him and like I said he was arrested on parole violations after being released for robbery. That was in 2019. It was at that point, he said he was raped 14 times. Primarily the lawsuit he won wasn't for rapes that occurred but for refusing him hormone treatments.

by Anonymousreply 22August 31, 2022 3:44 AM

"So many trans in jail" are not there for stealing. "Poverty" doesn't make anyone commit repeated rapes, violent assaults, attempted murders and real murders - real danger to the society and normal people. The majority of "poor" people - whether hardworking or lazy or grifting or exhausted, smart or low IQ, decent or gross - are not beastly violent criminals.

by Anonymousreply 23August 31, 2022 3:45 AM

R21 ❤️ I can certainly appreciate educated people like you

by Anonymousreply 24August 31, 2022 3:49 AM

How does this differ from the thousands of men who DON'T have dysphoria who get raped multiple times in prison? I don't see them being released on parole.

by Anonymousreply 25August 31, 2022 3:52 AM

Pawnasaw sounds like a town in Wisconsin.

by Anonymousreply 26August 31, 2022 4:07 AM

R15 Nobody cares about men being raped. Get real here. People joke about male rape in prison all the time. This person being a trans woman is benefiting from the double standard that men aren't truly victims of sexual abuse but only women are. Would they free her if she identified as her biological sex and was just an effeminate gay man?

by Anonymousreply 27August 31, 2022 4:11 AM

R12, black and Georgia.

by Anonymousreply 28August 31, 2022 4:12 AM

R3 has a reading comprehension problem.

R12 doesn’t. R12 is right — this sentence is utterly insane. And frankly, even if everything r22 says is true, the sentence is still insane.

by Anonymousreply 29August 31, 2022 4:19 AM

He. Him. His.

by Anonymousreply 30August 31, 2022 4:23 AM

R30 is Stink. Stank. Stunk.

by Anonymousreply 31August 31, 2022 7:50 PM

[quote] A Black trans women who alleged she was sexually assaulted more than 14 times

See how they left “alleged” out of the headline? Pink News, ladies and gentlemen.

by Anonymousreply 32August 31, 2022 8:17 PM

There was an SVU episode about this very thing.

by Anonymousreply 33August 31, 2022 8:49 PM

Only 14?

by Anonymousreply 34August 31, 2022 8:50 PM

Stealing private property should be punished severely.

He seems like a thug. No sympathy.

by Anonymousreply 35August 31, 2022 8:59 PM

I’m okay with having trans prisons, or more practical, trans wings. That should solve the problem.

by Anonymousreply 36August 31, 2022 9:02 PM

Ya'll need Jesus.

Or thorazine.

by Anonymousreply 37August 31, 2022 9:05 PM

Don’t smaller, weaker men routinely get violated in prison? Don’t drop the soap? It’s less to do with being transgender and more to do with BEING IN FUCKING JAIL!!

by Anonymousreply 38August 31, 2022 10:17 PM

Humblebrag

by Anonymousreply 39September 1, 2022 12:06 AM

Who doesn't get raped in prison?

by Anonymousreply 40September 1, 2022 12:29 AM

Gay especially effeminate men are at a higher risk of being raped in prison. Yet nobody cares and simply jokes about it and says we'll love prison. As if we want to be violently raped. Will this case even help bring awareness to all the homophobia and sexual violation that gay inmates deal with? I'm skeptical

by Anonymousreply 41September 1, 2022 12:43 AM

Documentary on prison rape.

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by Anonymousreply 42September 1, 2022 1:24 PM

Just bc a trans dude has been raped in prison, that’s no reason to move all trans to women's prisons.

If there is a risk of violence in the men's institutions, deal with it there. Don’t just transfer the risk over to the women's prisons, which haven’t incurred the risk.

by Anonymousreply 43September 1, 2022 2:09 PM

[quote] My understanding is that rape happens in prison. I find it disgusting, but it's a fact of prison life.

It's not a "fact of life", it's a human rights violation. The fact that you're so blase about it makes *you* disgusting.

by Anonymousreply 44September 1, 2022 2:21 PM

[quote]Trans woman raped 14 times in men’s prison

Good.

by Anonymousreply 45September 1, 2022 2:25 PM

[quote]I find it disgusting that you know nothing about this inmate's story or circumstances, and yet you mis-gender her

This man states he was sexually assaulted multiple times while incarcerated and YOUR first gripe is that he was “misgendered”?

This why male-on-male sexual violence will never be adequately addressed.

by Anonymousreply 46September 1, 2022 2:31 PM

Yes incomparably more sane men (aka non-trans) - gay, effeminate, weaker, or just those who met stronger enemies - get raped in men's prisons.

So transfer them all to women's? Are these sane non-trans men who got raped (including lots of gays) what now, women? Not men? Gay men are not men but women? Wtf?

Yes human rights violation that needs to be dealth with within men's prisons. What happens there do not belong in women's prisons (& vice versa). Of course female criminals are shit too. They assault each other. Within their spaces. Women's prisons.

by Anonymousreply 47September 1, 2022 2:43 PM

Georgia you say? Fourteen times? I’m listening.

by Anonymousreply 48September 1, 2022 2:48 PM

I thought that was one of the 'perks' of prison. All those sweaty mens just cooped up like tigers wanting to hunt. Bring it on baby!

by Anonymousreply 49September 1, 2022 2:54 PM

For R149

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by Anonymousreply 50September 1, 2022 3:51 PM

14 times isn't rape, that's a booty call.

by Anonymousreply 51September 1, 2022 3:54 PM

If it's real he probably enjoyed it. If, as I suspect, it's fake, then it's obviously a transparent attempt to force men in women's spaces. It will begin under the guise that gay men will feel safer there and then will quickly move onto women's prisons being full-scale rape factories. The incarceration of women needs to be abolished altogether and the gay men who think they're women need to stop their perpetual gaslighting on behalf of straight men who think they're women.

by Anonymousreply 52September 1, 2022 7:42 PM

R52 Gay men don't want to be women nor want to be around women. Plus women in prisons could beat up some fem twink with no fighting skills.

by Anonymousreply 53September 1, 2022 7:46 PM

I don’t like how he’s looking at the camera.

He should at least pretend to be demure.

by Anonymousreply 54September 1, 2022 7:50 PM

R52 = completely unhinged cunt

by Anonymousreply 55September 1, 2022 7:57 PM

Why do so many black men transition? The rate must be so much higher than for white guys, proportionally. Ive yet to come across a black man that truly passes for a woman.

by Anonymousreply 56September 1, 2022 8:01 PM

[quote]Gay men don't want to be women

That's obviously untrue, as evidence by how many gay men seem to be angry with women on this website, and seem to believe that they would actually make better women if they had just been born that way. That's one of the key fuels of gay misogyny.

by Anonymousreply 57September 1, 2022 8:02 PM

Side effect of a very macho subculture, R56.

Absolutely no room for an effeminate male. You must actually be a woman.

On the flip side, most autogynophiles who transition in middle age seem to be white.

by Anonymousreply 58September 1, 2022 8:04 PM

R57 I don't where you got the conclusion. It's absolutely delusional and gynocentric. If gay men are supposedly angry with women here it's because many straight women post on here. Not because they hate them. And if they were angry with women. Why the hell would they want to be one? I think it's female entitlement that gay men don't like and we call it out as we see fit because unlike straight men we don't have any sexual attraction to women and don't have any reason to please them.

by Anonymousreply 59September 1, 2022 8:08 PM

I hope she learned her lesson that crime does not pay. Of course being black, crime is second nature, they have a criminal gene in their physical constitution.

by Anonymousreply 60September 1, 2022 8:12 PM

[quote]gynocentric

Not a word. Most gay men have a deep resentment for women who they see as being free to have sex with straight men and be as feminine as they want. Both gay and straight men who transition pose an equal threat to women, the latter is usually more immediate and physical, but the former is arguably the greater danger socially.

by Anonymousreply 61September 1, 2022 8:21 PM

DLers, myself included…

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by Anonymousreply 62September 1, 2022 8:23 PM

[italic]"Most transwomen were gay bottoms (or vers) before transitioning and are attracted to men"[/italic]

And the thread was created by a pro-trans DLer!

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by Anonymousreply 63September 1, 2022 8:27 PM

If I were a woman sent to a men's prison and I could disguise myself seamlessly as a dude. I would definitely to that.... Just sayin'

by Anonymousreply 64September 1, 2022 8:27 PM

[quote]r2 She seems rather vivacious, considering past events.

I thought she pawned a stolen saw.

by Anonymousreply 65September 1, 2022 8:35 PM

R61 Stop this homophobic nonsense. I never wanted to be a woman because 1) I understand women are oppressed more, they have periods, they get pregnant, they are physically weaker and are trained to be followers to social trends. And 2) I love everything about being a man and would never want to be a woman. I love my mom, grandma, sisters, female relatives and friends.

Your view is female-centric. The world does not revolve around women. But I take it you're a political lesbian who wants to create divides. You're not good. Give it up.

by Anonymousreply 66September 1, 2022 8:39 PM

Men are physically stronger, have a higher social position, are allowed to be individualistic and don't have to worry about pregnancy or menstruation. Most gay men worship masculinity and want to look like a muscular stud. Only femmes and straight men worship femininity and would want to be women. Most gay men don't.

by Anonymousreply 67September 1, 2022 8:42 PM

Unfortunately, male-on-male rape happens all the time in prisons and the victims are overwhelmingly not trans-identified.

by Anonymousreply 68September 1, 2022 8:47 PM

Gynocentric is a word.

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by Anonymousreply 69September 1, 2022 8:52 PM

Meanwhile, gay victims of rape in prison, straight victims of rape in prison and females who are raped by trans-prisoners just have to put up with that shit.

by Anonymousreply 70September 2, 2022 12:44 AM

R70 I'll tell you the same thing I told the last dumbass who said it that way.

NO ONE IS SAYING GAY MEN HAVE TO PUT UP WITH RAPE! NO ONE IS IGNORING GAY MEN BEING RAPED! This one rape victim getting justice does NOT mean all the others get thrown to the wolves.

What the FUCK is wrong with you cunts that you think this way? Are you really this full of hate toward trans people that you think when one of them gets rescued, everyone else out there gets forcibly hurt?

by Anonymousreply 71September 2, 2022 12:48 AM

Man in a wig found a way to game the system.

by Anonymousreply 72September 2, 2022 12:52 AM

When you go through a thread like this and block all the racists and bigots, you realize just how dead Data Lounge becomes.

This place really is a cesspit of hatemongers who hide it behind gossip about Meghan Markle and Julia Child.

by Anonymousreply 73September 2, 2022 12:56 AM

[quote] I just googled him and like I said he was arrested on parole violations after being released for robbery. That was in 2019.

I attended an event this person spoke at in 2018. So she went back to prison right after?

Whatever. Anyway, at the event, which was specifically about violence against trans people in jail, the law that they wanted passed was that (if memory serves) guards had to report rape they witnessed or knew about to their superiors. In the movie that the showed ahead of the panel of speakers, the Fort Lauderdale (maybe Broward County) police had said that they had created a little wing for transwomen, since they had so many and they could help each other while serving their time.

That's all I got.

by Anonymousreply 74September 2, 2022 12:58 AM

R74 There's already a law on the books requiring guards to report any rape they witness or learn about indirectly. It's been a law for nearly 20 years.

But DL seems to think this human being deserves to be raped 14 times.

by Anonymousreply 75September 2, 2022 1:00 AM

[Quote] Poverty" doesn't make anyone commit repeated rapes, violent assaults, attempted murders and real murders - real danger to the society and normal people. The majority of "poor" people - whether hardworking or lazy or grifting or exhausted, smart or low IQ, decent or gross - are not beastly violent criminals.

Actually, severe poverty actually does cause violence particularly if that’s what you have been exposed to. It’s a vicious cycle

by Anonymousreply 76September 2, 2022 1:02 AM

R75, let me see if I can find the documentary they showed at the speakers' panel. ( don't recall exactly what the law was that they wanted, so pardon me if I am mis-remembering.

One of the things she talked about was that she had written to all the LGBTQ orgs from prison to ask if they could help her, and no one responded. She then figured out how to file her own lawsuit against the GA prison system, and that Southern Poverty Law--the lawyers from SPL read all the incoming lawsuits against the prison system in Georgia--happened to see it on the docket, and contacted her to help.

by Anonymousreply 77September 2, 2022 1:03 AM

Sadly, trans people are discriminated against severely in the job market so many have to turn to sex work to survive. Because sex work is illegal, they are forced into the underbelly of society—crime and violence abound.

Then they get sent to jail, mainly for being poor

by Anonymousreply 78September 2, 2022 1:04 AM

R78 Can't overlook the racial angle, either.

Even amongst trans women, you can guess who's more likely to be stopped by a cop. You can guess who's more likely to be denied bail after being picked up for solicitation. You can guess whose murder is likely to go unsolved.

by Anonymousreply 79September 2, 2022 1:10 AM

This was the trailer to the documentary I mentioned above.

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by Anonymousreply 80September 2, 2022 1:11 AM

[quote]I'll tell you the same thing I told the last dumbass who said it that way.

[quote]NO ONE IS SAYING GAY MEN HAVE TO PUT UP WITH RAPE! NO ONE IS IGNORING GAY MEN BEING RAPED! This one rape victim getting justice does NOT mean all the others get thrown to the wolves.

[quote]What the FUCK is wrong with you cunts that you think this way? Are you really this full of hate toward trans people that you think when one of them gets rescued, everyone else out there gets forcibly hurt?

Calm the fuck down - you're making yourself look crazy.

by Anonymousreply 81September 2, 2022 1:35 AM

OK. She look-a-like a man

by Anonymousreply 82September 2, 2022 1:48 AM

Who gets 12 years for stealing a saw?

by Anonymousreply 83September 2, 2022 1:51 AM

This whole story smells of bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 84September 2, 2022 1:53 AM

Can "she" be impregnated by all those sodomies? Because that's what happened to women prisoners in a women's prison when a trans "woman" was brought in to live with them. Rape and pregnancy. It's happened several times since these trannies were rehoused with real women.

KEEP THEM OUT OF WOMEN'S PRISONS. Female prisoners might sexually assault each other , but they cannot impregnate each other. One less thing to worry about, but it's a BIG thing.

by Anonymousreply 85September 2, 2022 2:26 AM

Protect real, biological, authentic, once-baby-girl women from these lunatic dick-havers. Is that asking to much of the men in charge of our society? Don't put a feather-covered fox in a hen house!

by Anonymousreply 86September 2, 2022 2:29 AM

Question: How common is it for men, ordinary male adults, to be "raped" by other male adults in prison? Don't the small men or cute men get it more often?

FYI, it isn't rape if there's no vagina involved. Sexual assault is more generalized and blander, but sodomy is the right word for penis -in- anus "sex". Men ,including trans "women," never have to fear forced pregnancy like real women must.

by Anonymousreply 87September 2, 2022 2:44 AM

R74 yes, he went back to prison in 2019 for parole violation ( another robbery). It was then that he claimed 14 rapes. It seems they were unsubstantiated and perhaps a tool used to get out because in prison he was denied hormone treatment. I'm not saying he wasn't raped because I have no idea what happened. My issue is with special treatment based on being trans. If he gets released over their failure to provide hormone treatment and rape claims, then why shouldn't all men who are sexually assaulted or not treated for health issues? It's all political and that's wrong. Period.

by Anonymousreply 88September 2, 2022 3:24 AM

I'd like to see an examination of the number of men raped in the same prison system. This did not happen solely because she was a trans woman. It happened because she was a victim like a lot of other men.

by Anonymousreply 89September 2, 2022 4:04 AM

Pink News.

Sure. Next!

by Anonymousreply 90September 2, 2022 5:38 AM

R61 you think most gay men have a deep resentment for women? I think while most gay men are probably jealous that women can get hot straight guys, they mostly idolise women. It’s the straight men who resent women.

by Anonymousreply 91September 2, 2022 10:38 AM

I hardly think of women at all, tbh

by Anonymousreply 92September 2, 2022 10:47 AM

So....the men went up into the man. In prison. How shocking.

Nothing to see here.

by Anonymousreply 93September 2, 2022 11:16 AM

[quote] I am not exaggerating the feminist position, and urge everyone to read Carol Hanisch's article, “Men's Liberation”, from the Redstockings anthology, Feminist Revolution; it is most instructive. Hanisch writes in a very clear, succinct, and straightforward manner; there is never any doubt what she is saying. The essence of her argument is that men's liberation groups are a reactionary development; that it is absurd to imagine that men are oppressed by the prevailing sex-roles, because all men profit from the oppression of all women; that therefore men have nothing to be liberated from. When she gets to homosexuality, Hanisch has this to say:

[quote] “Men's liberationists always bring up ‘confronting their own feelings about men’ by which they mean homosexuality. Male homosexuality is an extension of the reactionary club) meaning both group and weapon). The growth of gay liberation carries contempt for women to the ultimate: total segregation. The desire of men to ‘explore their homosexuality’ really means encouraging the possibility of homosexuality as a reaction against feminist demands. This is the reason the movement for “gay rights” received much more support only after women's liberation became a mass movement.”

[quote] The prejudice against male homosexuality contained in Kate Millett's highly influential book, Sexual Politics, is worse than that in Carol Hanisch's article, but it is more insidious. Millett's style is muddled and affected, and her bigotry emerges more in little digs and innuendoes than in direct statement.

[quote] To Millett, there is nothing positive about male relationships; they are simply power relationships. Either more powerful males exert dominance over weaker males, degrading them to the status of females, and deriving a peculiar satisfaction from bullyism; or males gang together to consolidate their power over women.

[quote] In Millett's world, men do not really like each other; it is only the sexual politics of the patriarchy that makes them spend so much time together.

[quote] Millett extends the term, “men's house culture”, referring to an institution in some primitive societies, to apply to all men's associations. She tosses in the Nazis, underworld thugs, Norman Mailer's U.S. Army, and some primitive sadism, in such a way as to imply that all men's groups are somehow fascistic in character.

[quote] Millett's hostility towards male friendship comes out most clearly in her chapter on D.H. Lawrence, a treatment that can fairly be described as vicious. The tenderest moments in Lawrence's novels, his attempts to describe the need men have for deep male friendship and male love, receive only ridicule and contempt from her pen. Her plot synopses are grotesque, both for their inaccuracies and for the animus that pervades them. If anyone thinks I am being overly harsh, I suggest a simple test. Read her chapter on D.H. Lawrence, especially her synopsis of Women in Love. Read Women in Love — a wonderful novel — and then draw your own conclusions.

[quote] At this point, to go through more feminist writers would involve mostly repetition, for the same themes occur over and over. Phyllis Chessler, in her book, Women and Madness, also puts forward the thesis that male homosexuality is an expression of misogyny. She also links male homosexuality to militarism and ridicules the “‘glorious’ tradition” of male homosexuality.

[quote] Susan Brownmiller in Against Our Will blurs together voluntary homosexual acts and homosexual rape; it appears that to her, both are equally horrible.

[quote] Shulamith Firestone's book, The Dialectic of Sex, contains many nasty little digs against male homosexuality. Firestone accepts the Freudian Oedipal complex theory on the aetiology of male homosexuality. She also holds the extraordinary notion that men cannot be erotic objects, and that the female body is intrinsically more aesthetic.

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by Anonymousreply 94September 2, 2022 11:20 AM

[quote] A curious double standard exists whereby feminists see all-female groups, publications, etc. as a necessary part of their movement, but would deny men a similar privilege. Again we are grateful to Carol Hanisch for providing us with a clear rationale for this double standard. According to Hanisch, men's groups exist in order for men to consolidate their power over women. She writes: “They are a breading ground for updating male supremacist theory and strategy for ‘handling’ the growing feminist movement.” Hanisch justifies the feminist double standard with this remarkable sentence: “All-male groups are more of the same segregation that women's liberation all-female groups exist to put an end to.”

[quote] Some — though not all — of the feminist writers are so bent on eliminating what they see as “segregation”, that they would abolish one-sex groupings altogether, as well as all sexual divisions. If they had their way, there would not exist any one-sex spheres whatever. Needless to say, this would mean the eradication of homosexuality. An extreme representative of this viewpoint is Shulamith Firestone, who looks forward to a future where every institution segregating the sexes would be destroyed, and even the gestation of human embryos would take place in machines rather than in the wombs of women. Everything would be homogenized. There would be total and uniform heterosociality; if homosexual couplings did occur, it would be on a random and arbitrary basis.

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by Anonymousreply 95September 2, 2022 11:20 AM

[quote] yes, he went back to prison in 2019 for parole violation ( another robbery). It was then that he claimed 14 rapes. It seems they were unsubstantiated and perhaps a tool used to get out because in prison he was denied hormone treatment. I'm not saying he wasn't raped because I have no idea what happened. My issue is with special treatment based on being trans. If he gets released over their failure to provide hormone treatment and rape claims, then why shouldn't all men who are sexually assaulted or not treated for health issues?

When I saw her/him at that event in 2018, she/he talked about the rapes then, so it wasn't made up afterwards. I don't recall if it was included in the documentary that they showed, but she/he spoke about it during her allotted time.

Also, the issue wasn't just that he was raped, but that the guards had orchestrated it, watched it, and did nothing to stop it. In the video and documentary, they talked about possible ways to make prison safer for trans and normal male inmates. Absolutely no one mentioned putting them with women. That is a new phenomenon. One prison official talked about dedicated a small block or room to those most vulnerable--but not solitary confinement.

by Anonymousreply 96September 2, 2022 11:46 AM

Horrible. I am the one who jokes sometimes about trans on this site, but they should really protect this people in prison. The state can not just leave more vulnerable prisoners to mercy of the raping animals.

by Anonymousreply 97September 2, 2022 11:49 AM

R94 R95 We're not reading that phone book

by Anonymousreply 98September 3, 2022 6:50 PM

Trans, the center of the universe.

by Anonymousreply 99September 3, 2022 6:58 PM

Because no men are ever raped in prison by other men.

Of course, it must all be about the trans person.

by Anonymousreply 100September 3, 2022 7:11 PM

She probably sold her ass for a Snickers bar.

by Anonymousreply 101September 3, 2022 7:14 PM

R100 Well, this article certainly is.

What's next? Bitching about all those cats in hats who did NOT get a Dr. Seuss book about their day?

by Anonymousreply 102September 3, 2022 7:14 PM
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