Why is no one talking about Joe Rogan telling his listeners to vote Republican?

Who cares.

They haven't been told to argue about it yet.

I would hope actual Democrats care.

Any of those left around here?

R2, who is "they?"

r3 Why would Dems care? We've known forever now that Rogan's listeners are mainly libertarian douchebros who most likely don't vote at all, let alone vote Democrat.

Do any Democrats actually listen to him?

Joe went full on right wing a few years ago. That's when I stopped listening. Even as it was, I was never a big fan. Caught his show every now and then,

I did used to like the fact that he had such a wide array of guests, from all walks of life, and he remained relatively neutral.

I assume now that's all stopped.

Link to the story?

I think you can google, R8.

Just one month ago on DL:

Rogan is the king of the JAQoff trolls; why would anyone be surprised by this?

He's not a conservative; he's a MAGA fascist.

MAGA fascists are conservatives, R13. Don't try to obfuscate what everyone already knows.

Ugh. More tribal shit. I vote for the candidate, not the party now. I've been thinking about changing my party affiliation from Democrat to independent but I like voting in primaries.

I'm in an area where a lot of local races only have one party fielding a candidate. It's like elections in China.

[quote]Ugh. More tribal shit. I vote for the candidate, not the party now.

What does that have to do with Joe Rogan?

OP, what's the point? His listeners are hypocritical shitheads and all Republicans ever do is prove their glaring hypocrisy on every God damned thing-

-Scream about "socialism," yet most of the top 15 states dependent on handouts are red states

-Scream about abortion, yet how many fucking Republicans have already been caught to have gotten multiple abortions for mistresses

-Scream about being silenced and censorship, yet they're the ones banning books, they're the ones who reject their own RW platforms to stay on "liberal" twitter.

-Scream about the Covid vaccine being about "Big Pharma" making $, but do take Ivermectin because that was apparently made by elves in a mystical forest with unicorn's piss and fairy dust.

-Scream about the sanctity of marriage, yet they're all having affairs and have multiple marriages under their belts

-Scream about celebrities getting involved in politics, yet WTF is Joe Rogan? WTF is his background that makes him qualified to even speak on any subject involving science or politics? If the subject is eating animal nutsacks, telling jokes or MMA fighting, fine.

I could go on, but we all know it's just endless how full of shit Republicans are when it comes to what they say vs what they do. Projection.

We all fucking know that if Obama had so much as taken a paperclip from a confidential document, these motherfuckers would already have prosecuted him.

What's the difference, R13? Do you see the Republican party speaking out against Trump? No, they're endlessly defending that asshole and trying to act like him STEALING confidential documents was nothing,

He's not very smart, not very articulate, and certainly not very interesting. This makes him perfect to lead the idiots who need to follow someone exactly like them.

Well the problem is that there are a lot of idiots who follow him. He has a massive following and they believe everything they hear on his show, even when he frames it as "just asking questions."

The difference with this time is that he wasn't posing a question to some right winger so they could spread their own garbage propaganda, he was issuing a direct order straight from his own mouth: "vote Republican."

If your response to that is "who cares" or, worse, some both sides b.s. about tribalism so you can change the topic, I don't understand you at all.

It was during the Aaron Rogers interview, r8.

Here's the clip. Mostly only rightwingers posted about it online and they're the ones with the clip, sorry.

R20 Baby, if someone is listening to Joe Rogan they were voting Republican from the beginning.

My bad, this is some sockpuppet master attempt at stirring shit.

Rogan is also responsible for the "Zuckerberg admitted that Facebook threw the 2020 election by request of the FBI" bullshit that's been going around lately. As I said in another thread, he's clearly now a clearinghouse for Republican lies and propaganda, which those of us with functioning synapses knew already, but now he can't hide it.

Trump's meltdown this morning about the FBI interfering in the election comes from all the social media bullshit about it started by Rogan (and Zuckerberg).

None of these fucking idiot Deplorables seem to realize that they're getting their information from one billionaire who interviewed another billionaire and then skewed the story to help a third billionaire.

He fug.

Explain to me the difference between Rogan or Rodgers having a political view vs a Kardashian having one? You know the difference? There isn't one. They're all entitled to a political view, but right-wing trash only scream about celebrity political views if they're liberal in nature and they're the only idiots who vote for celebrities without a single qualification to be in political office. Trump couldn't tell you who wrote the constitution when he was running. He could never pass a third grade test on US history, yet millions of morons voted for that swine.

The right-wing have no standards, that's why they give credibility to this meathead podcaster's political views.

Joe Rogan is the Question Troll?

What’s his ethnic background?

Joe Rogan is a manipulative piece of shit. He's clearly a libertarian who supports Republicans. See him moving to TX to avoid taxes on his Spotify contract.

But he's smart enough to bait the left by saying stuff like him faux-supporting Bernie. The BernieBros, of course, fell for it. Last month, he even said "I’m so far away from being a Republican" and "I’m a bleeding heart liberal when it comes to a lot of shit".

Only gullible idiots listen to his podcast.

[quote] What’s his ethnic background?

Asshole/mook.

Aaron looks the same age as Rogan

>But he's smart enough to bait the left by saying stuff like him faux-supporting Bernie.

Faux? Not so.

Some of the reason Trump won in 2016 was the disillusioned Bernie supporters who felt the DNC rigged things for Hillary. Some of them didn't vote in the general election and some of them voted for Trump out of disgust.

Both parties are pretty much in the pockets of corporations, so I see the appeal of Bernie to people who feel their concerns are being ignored.

From Wikipedia:

[quote]Rogan publicly supported Tulsi Gabbard and encouraged her to run for the U.S. presidency in 2020.

What a maroon!

He’s a shit-stirrer. That’s all.

[quote] Rogan publicly supported Tulsi Gabbard and encouraged her to run for the U.S. presidency in 2020.

Russian money?

[quote] >But he's smart enough to bait the left by saying stuff like him faux-supporting Bernie.

[quote]Faux? Not so.

[quote]Some of the reason Trump won in 2016 was the disillusioned Bernie supporters who felt the DNC rigged things for Hillary. Some of them didn't vote in the general election and some of them voted for Trump out of disgust.

[quote]Both parties are pretty much in the pockets of corporations, so I see the appeal of Bernie to people who feel their concerns are being ignored.

So I was right...faux-supporting Bernie, in order to help Trump. Your "reasoning" actually proves my point R32. Looks like you fell for Rogan's lie.

The Democrats rig their primaries.

So, it is not unreasonable to prefer the Republicans.

r15, no, vote on the issues.

The Republican Party is unfortunately not a good governing part at the moment. They have no plans to help anyone everything is objections and taking things away

Who r39 is not: a woman locked in a prison cell with a male rapist who has a "gender identity".

It's like clockwork with R37 posting at the usual time (5AM EST). Which foreign country are you from?

Who R40 is not: a 12-year-old forced to carry her rapist's baby to term even though it has serious consequences for her future ability to bear children (not to mention the psychological scars)—thanks to mainstream Republicans everywhere.

a woman locked in a prison cell with a male rapist who has a "gender identity".

The chances of this happening are slim to none, at best. Yet Republican Party assholes like R40 think it happens every day because of their constant amplification of trivial matters. Also, as if Republicans give a good God damn about prisoners and their cell mates.

He's a fat ugly pig.

Oh, I'm sure Republicans are really concerned about prison life, esp., those for-profit prisons. They're so concerned about the prison population, that they're trying to send people back who thought they were allowed to vote while making sure deplorables who try to vote for their dead relatives, get no prison time.

To answer OP's question: no one who would be surprised or who would disagree with his suggestion listens to this opportunitistic, leather-faced, frogman. So, there was little discussion about him. As there should be, really. His fanbois love that he said it and won't stop listening because anyone points out he said aloud (finally) what we all knew he was subtly telling his listeners. Those who revile him aren't going to start to tune in to hear him say it again/more often.

Meanwhile, Trump and treason and the Republican machine is trying to nullify our votes....

If Joe Rogan said "vote Democrat", now that would be a shock and worth talking about. He's basically a baby Rush Limbaugh and is preaching to an audience that was already voting Republican anyway.

Precisely, R47.

What's the downside? When one has a $100 million dollar contract, Social Security means nothing as does Medicare, so that's nothing to vote for. Preserving the Republicans billionaire tax cuts however is a positive. .

[quote] Rogan is also responsible for the "Zuckerberg admitted that Facebook threw the 2020 election by request of the FBI" bullshit that's been going around lately.

That’s obviously not true. It was Zuckerberg himself who generated the news when he admitted that it was the FBI’s interference that caused Facebook to censor the news about Hunter’s laptop.

No way! Joe knows me! He feels my pain! He may not live in his mom's basement like I do, or have to work for minimum wage like I have to, or fuck a fleshlight like I have to, but HE GETS ME, OK?!? He understands my pain and I will listen to him if I want! DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO OR THINK!

Libertarians are just Republicans who can spell.

Rogan did’t say people should vote Republican because he’s a conservative. He said they should do it specifically because of the issue of Democrats mishandling the response to the pandemic. He’s putting that issue above others,

"Democrats mishandling the response to the pandemic" says the guzzler of horse dewormer.

R53 Which is dumb AF because Trump was THE mishandler.

Rogan’s figured out douchebros have big cocks.

This thread is catnip for the straight women who come to DL solely to post political comments.

Republican response to COVID: "Send your Olds out to die for the Economy! Say goodbye to Meemaw and Peepaw, they've had their time! MONEY 🤑🤑🤑🤑 MONEY!bShit bleach up your poopers! Drink your urine!"

Democratic response: "Vaccines! Masks! Mitigate! Help our healthcare workers! Help your neighbor! Watch out for your elderly neighbor! Watch out for our unvaccinated and immunocompromised! Be a decent human, please!"

Yeah. How could anyone want to vote for those democrats?🤡

Exactly, R58.

By the way, has anyone ever derisively referred to him as "Joe Rogaine"? I myself would never do anything so crass and juvenile, but I can see it appealing to persons of low wit.

Yeah, I don’t get it. There weren’t shutdowns, there were restrictions. Yes, some industries were hit harder. I have hairdresser friends, for example, who suffered. Big corporations made out like bandits, though, and so did Republican politicians and donors. The most any of us had to do was wear a stupid mask, and even that was too much for so-called patriots. Besides killing 600,000 Americans, the other thing Covid did was show how stupid and selfish people are, and how guys like Rogan could exploit that stupidity for his own gain. That’s where we’re at as a society.

Republicans and their corporate puppeteers make more money when their sheep are afraid.

"Vote against your interests so you can Own those 'Libs' who are your brothers, sisters, mom's and dads, sheep!"

"Buy expensive firearms instead of saving for a real emergency or putting it into the stock market, sheep!"

"Don't vote for the party that is offering you clean air, clean water, education for your kids, and ideas to make things safer for you and your family, sheep! You don't want a clean, safe, healthy planet! You want dirty chaos, sheep!"

"You're miserable, aren't you, sheep? Well who's fault is that? No! Don't look over HERE! No, don't look in the mirror! It's THEM, sheep! It's those other people! GET THEM!!!"

*MOMS and dads

I removed that apostrophe,by hand three times. FU autocorrect

[quote]Besides killing 600,000 Americans, the other thing Covid did was show how stupid and selfish people are, and how guys like Rogan could exploit that stupidity for his own gain. That’s where we’re at as a society.

Actually 1.04 million Americans have died of Covid and 6.49 million world wide.

Did someone actually say Joe Rogaine upthread?

I’m embarrassed for you , that is so lame.

I hope you’re a Boomer frau, because that’s just pathetic

[Quote] a woman locked in a prison cell with a male rapist who has a "gender identity".

Suddenly the right gives a shit about prisoners…

He’s wealthy and wants anyone in power who will lower his taxes.

The stupid people who listen to him are at most middle class. Voting for the GOP will only shoot themselves in the foot

[quote] The stupid people who listen to him are at most middle class. Voting for the GOP will only shoot themselves in the foot

In the past, I think people stayed stuck on their positions, no matter the consequences, but we are starting to see some regret show up, like with voters who went along with prosecution reform and who are now greatly regretting the inevitable result of violent criminals being allowed to walk and commit more heinous crimes. Those voters realize, belatedly, that they shot themselves in the foot. We saw in SF, though, that they are starting to accept that they were wrong.

Correct

[quote]Suddenly the right gives a shit about prisoners…

About as genuine as their concern for the Iraqi people, hence the push for war.

"Saddam is killing his own people, so we have to start a war to stop him...so we can kill his own people."

[quote] About as genuine as their concern for the Iraqi people, hence the push for war.

The majority of the country went along with the push for war, so there are millions of people of both parties who share the blame, but let’s recognize that the head of it was the neocons, like Cheney.

If there wasn't enough proof he's a tiresome, Republican propagandist idiot making $ off of even stupider people (no different than how the Kardashians got rich):

"After criticizing Psaki, Joe Rogan talks Press Secretaries: “The only one that was good was that girl, what’s her name? Kayleigh McEnanany .. that lady was a f*cking assassin. That lady was the best ever at that job. She’s the f*cking Michael Jordan of WH Press Secretaries.”"

I don't give a fuck if you HATE Dems, but saying this bullshit shows what a shithead he really and truly is. Are his listeners even capable of being embarrassed listening to him praise someone who was a known liar and nodding along like an empty bobblehead ?

His listeners love that he is a loud ignoramus because they, too, are loud ignoramuses.

[quote] He's a fat ugly pig.

R44 only wants pretty people on the radio.

I don’t know why anyone listens to that ugly and dumb midget, unless they’re Trump voters.

Ugly midgets must be banned from the radio!

He's actually not that loud—just an ignoramus.

[quote]Well the problem is that there are a lot of idiots who follow him. He has a massive following and they believe everything they hear on his show

What exactly do you expect us to do about this?

Who gives a flying fuck what Joe Fucking Rogan says? No one takes him seriously. He funded by a much of far right wing billionaires. Like so many are.

Ignore this roid’d out pansy.

[quote] Who gives a flying fuck what Joe Fucking Rogan says

The OP does.

The OP makes 5 threads per day about the previous president.

R79 MAGA POS (BLOCKED) posting about Michael Bergin nonstop. This troll loves Trump.

R79 may be that waitress with a chronic shoe problem.

Joe Rogan sparks me as a non-voter who always has an opinion on everything. He wants to seem macho because all of his viewers the forever "dude bros” are trumpers

Better question is why is nobody talking about how he said this on the same episode that Miss Aaron Rodgers was on?

He’s playing to his stupid audience because he’s stupid.

R83 a double WGAF.

Everyone who doesn’t agree with me is an evil fascist !!!

Seriously the Left thinks anyone that doesn’t agree with them is a near Nazi. What would happen if we started calling everyone on the Left, Stalinist. It is as ridiculous.

Language has lost all meaning. Everyone is an extremist . Do actually believe everyone who disagrees with you is literally someone in the Nazi Party of Germany?

The complete and utter disregard for words and History makes people like me in the Middle and millions of others go fuck you.

[quote] but let’s recognize that the head of it was the neocons, like Cheney

Whom Datalounge now idolizes.

R86 Bitch you aren’t in the middle , so quit pretending you are not a full blown repig!

Well, the right wing has been calling anyone left of center "Stalinists" forever. And when Democrats call our Republicans for being fascists (or even Nazis) it's not mere name calling: it's because those Republicans show sympathy for modern-day fascists and openly say they want to emulate despots like Orbán in the U.S.

The republican party (and its derivatives) continue to spin off, not just to extremist policy, but into irrationality. And there is absolutely no point in addressing it in media... just need to focus on positive change and health and go on with your life. The Kray Kray will stay... in its corners. Let them be. Don't offer them your air.

Joe Rogan just said that Kayleigh McEnany was the best Press Secretary in history. The "Michael Jordan" of Press Secretaries. There is absolutely no space in that world view for rational discourse. Let him go with love.

R86, why did you even bother posting the same, tired, stupid shit you people always say?

God, you're boring and insufferable and in no way, shape or form have you stated anything intelligent or profound. I know you think you wrote something that was just so "common sense" and if you get called out, it's because we mere mortals are just so "woke" and we can't tolerate a brilliant "centrist" like yourself, but frankly, there's no point in going after your idiocy, because you'll just keep doing it. You're a repetitive idiot who treats right-wing fascism, censorship, voter suppression, anti-choice, Trump being an overall pile of treason, terrorist shit, etc, etc, etc, as if we're disagreeing over how to pay for infrastructure.

You're either lazy or stupid in how you view what's going on in this country.

treasonous*

I'll tell you this in terms you're familiar with, R86: fuck your feelings, snowflake.

BTW, R86 is a UK based, right wing anti-trans troll.

R93, exactly. Meanwhile, Ben Shapiro couldn't even handle an interview with Andrew Neil and walked off. And the aftermath was even uglier when a panel of both right and left journalists just mercilessly mocked him and questioned how

These people are children. They seriously think Tucker Carlson could debate someone like Rachel Maddow? FOX brings on Lara Trump for fuck sake. Who in the hell is looking for her opinion ever? Her husband is a fucking moron, so why would anyone need to hear from her?

This is the panel discussing the Shapiro-Andrew Neil. It's even better than the interview itself. Shapiro is a fucking light-weight.

questioned how Shapiro is considered the intelligent one on the right*

In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is the king.

[quote] They seriously think Tucker Carlson could debate someone like Rachel Maddow?

They used to debate all the time on his old show. He gave her her start in the business.

R98, like when he was a "normal" conservative rather than the pile of shit he is now?

BTW, [R86] is a UK based, right wing anti-trans troll.

No fuckhead I am Australian but good try. Thanks for spewing out your bigoted world view ,made me smile.

Then STFU, R100.

Who in the hell do you think you are acting like we have some rational fucking right-wing in the US? We no longer have that. We use to be able to have simple debates over tax cuts and funding education. We're now dealing with a fucking right-wing party that is anti-democratic and pushing forth a white supremacist/Christian nationalist ideology.

You know less than shit because the Democrats haven't proposed any god damned laws trying to suppress or oppress people. The right-wing is passing censorship laws, creating snitch phone lines to report teachers teaching history of which the RW doesn't approve and making 10yo rape victims escape their state to get help - and they're even trying to stop that. You think that's something that should be up for debate? You think some 18yo who wants to be called "they" is the counter on the left to the police state the right-wing is trying to create? Fuck your "both sides" idiocy.

Australia should go fuck itself just for unleashing that demonic Murdoch family on the world.

And Yahoo Serious.

Go suck Scott Morrison's dick, R100. And jerk off your tiny bogan penis while watching Sky News Australia.

I have no idea about R86, but you sound absolutely nuts, R101.

R86 STFU. JFC. We know you worship Trump and are a fucking MAGAt troll, Boris.

I know I entered a hornets nest when I came in here but I am sick of these circle jerks in which you launch into a tirade about everyone you hate and then everyone else agrees and you think, we all think the same way. We don’t . It is just everyone knows what will happen if you say anything against the latest tirade, so they shut up.

I have been in Datalounge for over 20 years and as a Gay man I don’t give a flying rats ass what you think.

I just think it is sad that is all. But please feel free to comment on my small bogan dick, turns me on that you have no clue,but seem to know everything oh wise ones lol

R103, I said nothing "nuts." People like you dismiss what the Republicans have done because it's far easier than confronting what they have done. The damage they have done. We had a president steal confidential files. This was after he tried to steal an election. This was after his flying monkeys tried to go kill MoC and the VP. this was after he abused his time in office. This was after he was known to have assaulted countless women. This was after countless years of corruption in business.

But by all means, pretend anything I said wasn't accurate and I'm "nuts" for being right-fully angry at the attempt to rationalize or outright dismiss the cruelty, hate and bigotry of the right-wing.

R6, I attempted to listen to a few of his podcast during the CoViD heyday, and I just couldn’t get through them.

I’m not sure he believes any of the BS he prattles on about, but he’s boring AF.

I haven’t a clue why anyone finds him interesting, other than for his obvious pandering for bucks.

He lucked out with Trump having become President. It made him a very wealthy man.

And fuck his rabid devotees. They deserve all the bullshit Rohan and other opportunists serve them.

rightfully*

R103 fuck off , repig trash need to know they are scum on earth!

Does QAaron Rodgers fuck himself with a dildo while watching Joe Rogan podcasts?

People like R86 are losing their shit because

A) Democrats are on a winning streak

B) Republicans are on an epic losing streak

C) Democrats are favored in poll after poll on the Generic Congressional Ballot which is unheard of in a midterm being the party in power

D) Trump is a treasonous scumbag and that is being shown daily now after the FBI search of his house

E) Actual elections since Roe was overturned have seen a swing to Democrats by 5-15 pts and is only going to amplify the more the horrors of the bans on abortion are felt

F) Republicans have nothing to run on, offer no solutions

G) The solutions they do run on are deeply unpopular like ditching SS and Medicare

H) Republican messaging is in disarray after Democrats and Biden have passed meaningful, popular legislation, tightened their messaging, are unified

I) Republicans vote against capping the cost of insulin, against funding health care for sick, dying veterans in a tantrum over nothing, advocate Defunding the FBI (and nullifying their Defend the Police narrative), and shrug at our Top Secrets lying around a high school pool party

J) Voters top concern now is democracy

It has been a brutal 7 weeks for Republicans and a great 7 weeks for Democrats. Dark Brandon has seen is approvals skyrocket into the mid/upper 40s.

So, we get the trolls on DL in absolute meltdown. And we’re loving every fucking minute of it.

I actually thought Joe's stand up was pretty good. But I thought people think of him as I stoner, MMA, bro, Fear Factor kind of guy? So now he has massive ratings so he is connecting with a huge audience. At the end of day though, if someone is going to vote for someone because Joe friggin Rogan told them to, Good Lord we are fucked.

I forced myself through one of his shows because I wanted to hear what his guest had to say- it took me 3 days to finish the hour and a half podcast, because it was so goddamn boring. He says the first stupid shit that pops into his pea brain and is a dud interviewer.

R113 He’s a dim man that makes dim people feel they have someone they can relate to. Nobody with an ounce of intelligence would listen to this piece of shit after hearing him speak.

And yet he is the biggest podcast on earth r114. Go figure

He may be the biggest podcast on earth, R115, but NOT in my basement!

[quote]And yet he is the biggest podcast on earth [R114]. Go figure

And? This world is full of idiots who don’t have two brain cells to rub together.

Right Wing pundit-ism pays better. He's a whore, a sell-out. He spreads lies, misinformation, and hate. And he gets paid for it.

His pussy stinks.

Rogan is a Nazi enabler.

[quote] He's a whore

Oh, R118, he's a bigger whore than the Datalounge Whores!

R71 There was never any stuffing by Kayleigh McEnanany. She would lie through her teeth, prattle on, and bypass any CNN reporters. What was he watching.? Oh, yeah. A blow-up doll. At least be honest about why you think she's an assassin.

R86 See, what you don't understand is that we have NO issue with people who disagree. YOU'RE the cavemen--not us. However, we do take umbrage when cavemen try to restrict our rights.

Are you 12?

BTW, there's no middle here. Either you support Trumplicans or you don't. It's THAT black and white. Gray left the building a long time ago thanks to the former oligarch and his minions.

There is no good reason to vote for this Democratic Party.

Rogan is funded by far right billionaires. He’s doing what they want.

[quote] Gray left the building a long time ago

Rogan has limited knowledge and limited capacity for critical thinking. He's basically a libertarian and wants personal freedom even if it negatively impacts others freedom and safety. His whole schtick is that he's just a regular joe that questions things other regular joes might. The problem is when you allow misinformation to be spread regularly on your show without addressing it, you're part of the problem.

Rogan is a tool for billionaires. Period.

If I were an US citizen I would vote republican because I don't want muslims in the civilized world. Like EW really? Do y'all want to live under islamic rule in 2088?

So, R129, if you were a US citizen in Pennsylvania you'd vote for the Republican for Senate?

You don't want Muslims in the world? What an incredibly stupid, bigoted thing to say.

"Westerners began asking, where are the moderate Muslims. Well, there is none. The concept is absurd. Muslims view this issue differently. You are either a ‘good’ practicing Muslim or a bad wishy-washy Muslim. It’s the latter group that the westerners have misnamed moderate Muslims"

Are you a gullible white woman R131? I am for gay rights and gender equality. Not camel religion.

Are you a frightened, hysterical asshole, R132?

R133 Are you an inbred muslim?

R124

Saving Social Security for all of us. Reducing the federal deficit by decreasing subsidies to private companies which already have record profits and increasing taxes on the very rich (don't even question this: look at the data on fed deficits Repub v Dem administrations since Reagan - you are being lied to). Allowing Americans to pay lower prices for medications (cf: Canada). Improving infrastructure (bridges, highways, power grid). Responding to impact of climate crisis - i.e. clean water (c.f. Mississippi right now). Protecting the right of men to love and marry men, of women to love and marry women. Protecting states ability to let women have control over their own bodies.

On and on. There is a profound difference between the parties. That difference results in higher quality of life for the majority of people. That difference is obscured by the noise and fog of rightwing media, funded my the super-rich who want to break laws and increase wealth by manipulating voters with white fear, Christian nationalism, and tribal greivance.

It's time to move forward.

[quote]Whom Datalounge now idolizes.

No, DL doesn't idolize Cheney. In fact, I loathe her. But she is the perfect example of "My enemy's enemy..." She is our "friend" for ONE purpose alone. Her policies are shit.

The DLers who "idolize" revisionist history where they pretend Trump is no threat or pull the "both sides" bullshit and enable the right-wing fascism taking hold (I'm sure you're one of them), are a bigger threat than Liz Cheney could ever be - and I couldn't hate that woman's views more than I already do.

Cheney is no ally. To me, this is an "infighting is funny" issue where conservatives fight with conservatives. The winner of that fight still remains an enemy of liberal values.

No, progressives don't idealize or idolize Cheney, not at all. We admire her courage in calling out an insurrection when she sees it. We acknowledge and respect her willingness to lose an election on that principle.

And so we are ABLE to think and chew gum at the same time. Able to, in this instance, resist the essentialist irrational tribalism that now characterizes so much of our public sphere. That cause folks who know better (Sen G, for example) to suck at the grievance tit of MAGA and speak in addled incoherent ways about all Dems in order to align with Trumpist lies.

Really, we must begin to think more rationally. Does Cheney assert something that helps, that makes sense? Ok, I agree with her. Does Cheney support rampant crony-capitalism and militarist interventions? Ok, I disagree with her.

See? It's not that hard.

R137, and she and her ilk will be an opponent AFTER we purge the fascists. People are allowed to be conservatives. Trump's trash are not conservatives, they're anti-democratic, racist, bigoted terrorists who need to be thrown out of the country. They have no business being here. They don't believe in democracy. If they weren't white, they'd already be in prison.

I believe in free speech. He can tell people to vote for whomever he wants.

Maybe OP, most people are not totalitarian leftists like yourself.

R140, no one is saying he CAN'T. He's being called out for being a lying sack of shit. The ones who are literally preventing people from voting to the point of creating hundreds of laws across the country would be the GOP itself. The ones legislating censorship is the GOP. DeSantis --the guy this literal dickhead, MMA dwarf is pushing-- is having people arrested for voting because they didn't know they couldn't. Why isn't this "free speech" pile of shit asking "Why didn't DeSantis' govt make it so these people KNEW they couldn't vote? Why did DeSantis reject the will of the voters who feel people who serve their time SHOULD be allowed to vote?" Mr. "Free Speech" doesn't ask that

Rogan is a fucking idiot trying to push lies and pretending he doesn't know that the GOP is the party actually legislating fascistic policy, because he feels he'll be fine in that world and so do you, I guess. You ignore the actual policies of the right to pretend the "left is silencing meeeeeeeeeee."

[quote]There was never any stuffing by Kayleigh McEnanany. She would lie through her teeth, prattle on, and bypass any CNN reporters. What was he watching.? Oh, yeah. A blow-up doll. At least be honest about why you think she's an assassin.

He wants to fuck her.

[quote]And yet he is the biggest podcast on earth

And Kim Kardasian built an empire on a fuck tape and zero talent, what's your point?

Why would it OP? He’s a known Trumper, anti vaxxer and, misogynist asshole. He’s basically Andrew Tate lite. Why would anyone here care what he has to say?

Different Cheney, R136.

[quote] She is our "friend" for ONE purpose alone.

She was never my “friend”, in quotes or not, and she never will be. There’s a big difference between people with integrity and those who would embrace someone like that for political expediency or any other reason. It’s like being in charge of fundraising for a very worthy cause and receiving an offer of a million dollars of support from the Klan. The answer would and should always be no, no matter how much the money is needed.

[quote] Different Cheney, [R136].

You are correct. The referenced Cheney is Dick Cheney.

[quote] Maybe OP, most people are not totalitarian leftists like yourself.

An extra beet for you today, tovarisch!

[quote] R133 Are you an inbred muslim?

I think you got lost on your way to Daily Stormer.

Where did the OP claim Joe Rogan shouldn't have said who to vote for?? Talk about missing the point. The trolls here are complete morons as usual.

What does it say about Democrat chances in 2024? What is the plan? Biden has no chance of winning and we all know it. You can pull a poll to support that he has a chance, but he doesn't. People lie in polls all the time. Democrats will NEVER win as the woke party. You may say everyone who listens to Rogan is an idiot or Nazi. BUT the fact remains they vote. They vote bigly.

A million WWs for R138!

Bravo. And the #TRUTH.

It's not news. He's been a voice for the Repug Party for years.

R143, I never understand these people who point to wealth as a sign of "intelligence."

There are people on YT, IG or Tiktok who are called "influencers" and are making way more money than Neurosurgeons and Astrophysicists.

"Entertainers" have always made the most money off of the masses. It's very rare that actual brilliant people make an obscene amount of money. Most of the wealthiest inherited that wealth.

"High Pitch Eric" from the Howard Stern Show is now making six figures off of cameo while a teacher with a masters can barely make rent.

Rogan is an idiot making money off of bigger idiots. What a disingenuous asshole for complimenting McEnany when everyone knows she lied more than she breathed. He surrounds himself with scared idiots I guess, because no one dared to even challenge him on saying something so stupid - and you don't have to be a Dem or even like Psaki, but it was pathetic when I saw that clip. "Duh, she was an assassin." Yeah, she regularly sent a bullet through basic facts. Being able to lie with impunity doesn't make you an "assassin." It makes you loathsome and without a shred of decency.

I can fight with Liz Cheney, she has limits - as do I. There are lines she won't cross - as do I.

These fucking MAGAts are so brain-dead and just STUPID that I can't/won't fight with them. There's no point to it. They can't comprehend what sane people are talking about.

Donald's bringing back Qanon. How do you even begin to discuss anything with those people? I'd rather fight with Liz Cheney, she's a cunt but at least she's a sane cunt.

The responses from the trolls here reveal they are scared witless. They know the walls are closing in on Republicans and Trump.

The anti-Muslim idiot said what it did to get a rise out of some. It doesn’t believe anything it says.

[quote] This world is full of idiots who don’t have two brain cells to rub together.

Oh, R117! Why can't the rest of the world be as brainy as you and me?

[quote]I am for gay rights and gender equality. Not camel religion.

Voting Republican won't guarantee you any of these.

OP, Rogan can say whatever he likes. You know about free speech, right? Why do you care?

[quote] "High Pitch Eric" from the Howard Stern Show is now making six figures off of cameo

Sure, Jan.

[quote] Well the problem is that there are a lot of idiots who follow him. He has a massive following and they believe everything they hear on his show, even when he frames it as "just asking questions."

Okay, so we’ll jail him or have him fired because he said something we don’t agree with. Okay.

[quote] Why is no one talking about Joe Rogan……

Because I've got more important things, haven't you?

Fake news!

(Russian Spam Bot infiltrate!)

I'm sure somebody somewhere is indeed talking about Joe Rogan, OP. 🙄

[quote] even when he frames it as "just asking questions."

How DARE he ask questions!

Especially uncomfortable ones.

My basic problem is that because Rogan has a large audience , when he allows misinformed comments to remain unchallenged or unresolved, his audience start seeing them as facts or possible truths. Having a syndicated talk show comes with responsibility if you are talking about important matters such as science, politics, and other serious life issues. If you're talking about entertainment and sports, then fine, talk nonsense.

[quote]How DARE he ask questions! Especially uncomfortable ones.

it's not his questions that are an issue, it's that he foolishly accepts any stupid answer at face-value. he has the critical thinking of a four year old.

[quote] My basic problem is that because Rogan has a large audience , when he allows misinformed comments to remain unchallenged or unresolved, his audience start seeing them as facts or possible truths.

Wrong thinking must be punished.

Let's not act like Rogaine is the only misinformation source his moronic fans access. If they miss his podcast, Fucker Carlson, Hannity , Facebook posts, and Alex Jones surely fill in any conspiracy theory gaps.

Rogan is spreading 9/11 “truther” bullshit now.

Ooh, R171, keep it down unless you want to be accused of Orwellian oppression of wrong thinking by our resident troll(s). Joe's just putting alternative ideas out there!

I lost what little respect I had left for Rogan when he was claiming how Ivermectin was a key factor on him recovering from COVID. Science and common sense would indicate it was being healthy was the primary reason.

R171 You must be an avid listener.

Rogan is bald head down, hairy shitty ass up for Repig billionaires.

[quote] hairy shitty ass

Tell us more!

5’ 6”, bald as a baby, gruff, blue collar voice, hair in odd places, exaggerated male swaggering, weekly testosterone injections; you can guess the rest.

I remember seeing Joe Rogan a couple of times on TV doing stand-up and thinking, This guy is a comedian? He wasn't the least bit funny. Not even amusing. Does he actually do comedy tours?

I don't care for him, personally, but he allows a voice to those being censored, silenced, banned by Davos.

Anyone using their platform to counter-balance the Big Tech, Big Pharma, 4th Industrial Revolution propaganda is ok in my book.

[quote]Does he actually do comedy tours?

Apparently so, according to the prattle in the episode I forced myself to endure. Jakob Dylan was the guest and asked him about similarities between stand up bits and songs.

I saw one of Rogan’s taped stand up routines and he repeatedly imitated Sam Kinison’s primal screams throughout his act. It wasn’t an homage, just a blatant ripoff. He did it every time a joke fell flat to fill in the awkward silences.

[quote] My basic problem is that because Rogan has a large audience , when he allows misinformed comments to remain unchallenged or unresolved, his audience start seeing them as facts or possible truths.

Yet another reason America hates the Left - you think people are too damn dumb to do their own research and take everything at face value. You believe they have to be spoonfed the “correct information.” Typical Marxist brainwashing. This is why Democrats are seen as elitist assholes and lose elections. Democrats are the party of believe they science yet they deny biology. This isn’t lost on American voters. That’s why Republicans continue to win elections despite Trump. Americans know the Left is just as insane and cultish.

R183 Wow, the left is the party of cult now? With the Trump MAGA crowd having overtaken the Republican party and looking to eliminate democracy? Go sell crazy someplace else.

This is about Rogan's obvious lack of critical thinking. Even if we're being generous, Rogan at best has average intelligence. He is regularly leaping to the wrong conclusions and making poor judgement calls. It's not about free speech. I don't feel that someone who goes down all these different rabbit holes with lunatic fringe guests should be taken seriously.

Personally I regularly challenge popular thinking and commonly accepted norms, but I know not to make half-baked comments that millions of listeners take at face value. It's like going to the break room at work to get coffee and having to listen to Joe the office temp with questionable intelligence blather on and saying very little of value.

r183, it would be hilarious, were it not proving so destructive. They not only think anyone who thinks differently than them is too stupid to possibly understand their own interests, but they also dismiss the stated interests as not being important or slander the people with the interests with whatever the pejorative du jour may be (transphobe, racist, fascist, deplorable, etc.) The consider themselves the epitome of *diversity* and *inclusivity* and label anyone different from them or who disagrees with them a Domestic Terrorist. The arrogance, projection and lack of self awareness are continuously jaw dropping.

[quote]This is about Rogan's obvious lack of critical thinking. Even if we're being generous, Rogan at best has average intelligence.

It’s taken many years for Rogan’s agents and handlers to groom him for mass appeal. His so-called moderate stance and “I’m just asking questions” schtick is all part of a colossal BS act. He’s always been a sexist, reactionary idiot, and those who witnessed his shock jock days remember how venomous he was. He made Rush Limbaugh look like Oprah in comparison.

r186, I agree he plays dumb a lot, asking questions he knows the answers to and usually already has opinions on. That said, he's still given voice to the silenced majority on issues of Big Pharma/Big Tech vs the human species.

Absolute psycho in R186's link. How does anyone take this angry moron seriously?

R188 I forgot to mention that Rogan was correct about the Bondo mystery ape; he’s living proof of its existence.

The primatologist Joe Rogan attacked:

[quote] Personally I regularly challenge popular thinking and commonly accepted norms, but I know not to make half-baked comments

[quote] the Trump MAGA crowd having overtaken the Republican party and looking to eliminate democracy

Oh, the irony, R184.

R183 30% of Americans believe the world is flat. They've done their research and come up with their own conclusions.

No one objects to people doing their own "research" and holding whatever opinions they choose to have. Suggesting this is just grievance-based obfuscation. But there is something called "common sense"... and situating these "rights" to believe whatever you want regardless of its content in some "political landscape" is why own Public Sphere is full of garbage.

Common sense. It's a thing, eh?

r192, 99% of the world agrees there are only two human sexes, and we have a global, trillion dollar funded push to deny that reality, ban people from social media who state such, have people fired who state such, have them doxxed, physically attacked, have time added on to their prison sentences, deny them bank accounts and other sources of funding, have their children taken from them if they don't submit to agreement that biology is imaginary, etc. This reality denying movement, to the financial benefit of Big Pharma and Big Bio-Tech, is funded and propagandized by the same men who benefit from Pfizer and Moderna stocks soaring, who benefit from breaking the wills and minds of "the people", the same psychopaths who threaten to kill half of their own constituents with fighter jets. This is who you're making common cause with. And, yes, doing one's own research, thinking for oneself is enormously frowned upon by those who insist they are "the science" and that holding views that differ, even slightly, are cause for excommunication.

R193 I pray for your peace of mind.

This one and precious human life should not be wasted.

You can shove your prayers and magical thinking.