Princess Victoria of Hesse & By Rhine

"of Hesse and by Rhine"

What kind of ridiculous name title is that? Why is the word "by" inserted?

"She's the great-grandmother of Prince Charles, through her oldest daughter Alice, Princess Andrew of Greece" - NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

She's the GRANDMOTHER of Prince Charles, through her oldest daughter Alice, Princess Andrew of Greece

Looks inbred.

" by Rhine"

I believe this is a geographical reference to a particular area adjacent to Hesse. Her father was the Grand Duke of "Hesse" and the Grand Duke of "by Rhine" hence the name "Hesse and by Rhine".

"7. She was an accomplished artist and sculpted the statue of Queen Victoria at Kensington Palace."

I think it was Princess Louise, Duchess of Argyll who sculpted the statue of Queen Victoria at Kensington Palace.

Her eldest daughter was Alice, Princess of Greece. the mother of Prince Philip. Her eldest son was George, 2nd Marquess of Milford Haven.

R2 Charles got her close together beady eyes with eyebags and her nose.

R2 She’s Prince Charles’ great-grandmother and Prince Philip’s grandmother. OP is right.

R7 - You are right. I did not read OP close enough. I was getting Charles & Philip mixed up in my mind. SORRY!

Louise, Duchess of Argyll, was said to have had a child by a palace servant.

Victoria looks like she doesn't know what planet she's on in this picture.

R3 beat me to it.

Take away the title, along with the crown and fancy jewelry, she looks like an extra from DELIVERANCE…

She was Queen Victoria's granddaughter, making Prince Philip Queen Victoria's great-great grandson.

But Queen Elizabeth II is also Queen VIctoria's great-great granddaughter.

Just how closely related were Philip and Elizabeth?

^ Well, let's see, not only were Elizabeth and Philip mum and dad to the Windsor kids (Charles, Anne, Andrew and Edward) they were also their distant cousins 🤔

I always thought Charles resembled Queen Victoria, and now I know it's because both his parents were her descendants. That's a fun fact for the day!

That explains Charles’s odd appearance. Incest.

Fuggo family. Most of them got the heavy coarse features that Victoria had.

^ That's why the started marrying commoners, their family tree needed a few branches 🙄

Queen Margrethe of Denmark insisted that her sons marry foreign women for some reason…I wonder if she was concerned about genetics.

Few branches? They needed a forest.

You don't understand Jon Davis' cartoon creations' eyes until you consider they all look like Queen Victoria's eyes.

Vag of death!

A very interesting, old fashioned face.

Reading about her and her family on Wikipedia, the most unusual fact I saw was that Earl Mountbatten of Burma had a long relationship with Shirley MacLaine!

^ Shirl is well hung? Who knew.

R1 Re: “of Hesse and by Rhine” - I think it just translates awkwardly in English from the German - “Hessen und bei Rhein”. Apparently that makes sense, sounds right in German, but sounds wrong in English. They lost considerable territory to Prussia at the Congress of Vienna when they were still known as “Hesse-Darmstadt”. With the loss of territory, they did manage to gain a small bit of territory by the Rhine, and the reigning grand duke changed the name of the duchy to reflect the new territory acquired by the Rhine.

Elizabeth and Philip were cousins in two separate ways.

By their common descent from from Queen Victoria, aka the Grandmother of Europe, they were third cousins.

By their common descent from Christian IX of Denmark, aka the Father-in-Law of Europe, they were second cousins once removed.

They had other ancestors in common but those are the primary direct relationships. King George VI and The Queen Mum had objections to their daughter's insistence on marrying Phillip but the familial relationship wasn't among them.

@r23, "the most unusual fact I saw was that Earl Mountbatten of Burma had a long relationship with Shirley MacLaine! "

In which century or was it all of them? 🤔

"See you in the 23rd, Louis" 😉

At least he could get Shirley MacLaine her goddamned crème brûlée when she asked for it!

Did she carry the hemophilia gene?

"And whenever they needed sour cream, they brought out fresh and had her look at it."

There’s some song or film in which someone mentions her by title, I was always struck by the distinctive, rich-sounding name as a child.

I looked up "stinkeye" in the OED and it was just this picture.

R29, it appears Princess Victoria, Marchioness of Milford Haven, did not carry the hemophilia gene. Her two sons lived to adulthood. Her daughters did not appear to be carriers: one, Princess Alice, was the mother of Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh (who did not have it), and nor did it appear in the offspring of Prince Philip's four sisters. Of course, two of Princess Victoria's sisters, the Czarina Alexandra and Irene, Princess Henry of Prussia, were carriers (a third sister, Ella, had no children, so we don't know if she was a carrier). Some of daughters of Czarina Alexandra appear to have been carriers, according to their DNA. Princess Victoria's brother, Frederick, died of hemophilia, age 3.

R12 & R14 & R26

Christian IX of Denmark-George I of Greece (aka William of Denmark-Andrew of Greece-Philip of Greece

Christian IX of Denmark-Alexandra of Demark (Queen of the UK)-George V-George VI-Elizabeth II

[quote]the most unusual fact I saw was that Earl Mountbatten of Burma had a long relationship with Shirley MacLaine!

Was it Shirley from another life or Shirley Shirley?

R3- They’re ALL inbred.