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'Trans, non-binary couple say coming out of the ‘cis, het closet’ brightened their relationship'

As far as I can tell, they're just a hetero couple, but I couldn't parse this with any surety.

[quote]Mina says this process of talking so much about “feelings and things” help hir start to analyse things ze was thinking about hir gender.

Yes, one of them has blue hair, to no one's surprise.

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by Anonymousreply 92August 26, 2022 4:06 PM

Which one is the dude?

by Anonymousreply 1August 23, 2022 12:42 AM

Because just being straight doesn't make you "special".

by Anonymousreply 2August 23, 2022 12:43 AM

These are lesbians

by Anonymousreply 3August 23, 2022 12:44 AM

And yet no value ascribed to cosmetic dentistry.

by Anonymousreply 4August 23, 2022 12:47 AM

I would love to see a scientific study on why so many trans/non-binary people color their hair - far more than in the general population.

My own feeling is that it's because so many of them are needy for attention and will do whatever it takes to get it.

by Anonymousreply 5August 23, 2022 12:47 AM

A bunch of mumbo jumbo concocted when they came to the realization that they are both really bad in bed.

by Anonymousreply 6August 23, 2022 12:47 AM

r3 if that's true, then they don't count. they're just poor victims of the toxic masculinity in the gay community.

by Anonymousreply 7August 23, 2022 12:48 AM

I took a phone survey today and was asked whether I "identified as" man, woman, non-binary, or something else/prefer not to answer. For god's sake.

by Anonymousreply 8August 23, 2022 12:49 AM

[quote]They continue: “Our kids both identify as queer, [they] never had to come out because they can just think it through. It’s a safe space.”

Tragic.

by Anonymousreply 9August 23, 2022 12:49 AM

r5 they've really ruined it for everyone else... and so much more.,

you can't wear a collar anymore without someone thinking you're an otherkin either.

by Anonymousreply 10August 23, 2022 12:50 AM

Talking about feelings and things is always a bad idea.

by Anonymousreply 11August 23, 2022 12:50 AM

who

gives

a

flying

fuck?

by Anonymousreply 12August 23, 2022 12:51 AM

r12 the fraus and lesbians like to obsess on it because they've been booted from everywhere else... it's their version of porn.

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by Anonymousreply 13August 23, 2022 12:53 AM

Exhausting.

by Anonymousreply 14August 23, 2022 1:16 AM

[quote]I would love to see a scientific study on why so many trans/non-binary people color their hair - far more than in the general population.

I imagine it's connected to the obsession with anime, where so many characters have Crayola-colored hair.

by Anonymousreply 15August 23, 2022 1:28 AM

So many words in that article and not a single clear thought among them.

I feel sorry for the women married to these men. And they stay because they love them and have children - but man, the boundaries shifting and all the bullshit has to be a fucking lot to take.

by Anonymousreply 16August 23, 2022 1:36 AM

Really stupid.

by Anonymousreply 17August 23, 2022 1:40 AM

Pinkness is such a piece of shit. I don’t know why they just don’t rebrand as trans news. They have a trans section ide tidied in the website menu but no gay, lesbian, or bi section.

by Anonymousreply 18August 23, 2022 1:45 AM

That article gave me an aneurysm. I'm going to sue.

To whom do I serve the papers? Pink or the author?

by Anonymousreply 19August 23, 2022 1:50 AM

Does the taller one have a smurf bush too?

by Anonymousreply 20August 23, 2022 2:06 AM

I'd rather they go by they/them than ze and hir. They were married as a traditional catholic heterosexual couple in 94. And they seem to have a completely tumblrized perspective of what it means to be gay or trans. I just don't know what to make of these two. It's obvious they're both on the autism spectrum, and they mistake the discomfort in their bodies and society for gender dysphoria. The female changed after the male. Very common. Females are incredible at adapting to changes in order to keep their males. They both watch anime and are into furry communities.

by Anonymousreply 21August 23, 2022 2:11 AM

They both look like women. Are they lesbians?

by Anonymousreply 22August 23, 2022 2:12 AM

I thought they were both lesbians too

by Anonymousreply 23August 23, 2022 2:12 AM

Wait, there's a biological male in that photo?

JFC.

by Anonymousreply 24August 23, 2022 2:28 AM

More tedious straight people desperate to be special. Well, speshul they certainly are. Fucking retards. Or should that be zetards?

And fuck pinknews, fucking traitors to gay people.

by Anonymousreply 25August 23, 2022 2:38 AM

Poor kids. Being raised in this sick tranny cult is really going to fuck them up for life.

by Anonymousreply 26August 23, 2022 2:41 AM

r1 Are you blind? The longhaired one has an unmistakable manface.

by Anonymousreply 27August 23, 2022 2:46 AM

Poisonous creatures

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by Anonymousreply 28August 23, 2022 2:49 AM

What in the world. I stopped reading at "ze". Never was good at foreign languages. Too old to learn this one now.

by Anonymousreply 29August 23, 2022 2:55 AM

Yeah R27, you're right. I took a much closer look and the long-haired one is a man. these people are so weird.

by Anonymousreply 30August 23, 2022 2:55 AM

When being hipster douchebags simply won’t do.

by Anonymousreply 31August 23, 2022 3:03 AM

the long haired one looks like Sarah Huckabee Sanders after a crash diet.

by Anonymousreply 32August 23, 2022 4:31 AM

R24 The article says they were married in a Catholic ceremony in 1994. So I'm guessing they weren't lesbians then. I know it's hard, but one of them does have a prominent brow bone.

by Anonymousreply 33August 23, 2022 4:41 AM

[quote]I imagine it's connected to the obsession with anime, where so many characters have Crayola-colored hair.

I bet this does play a part, actually. Are there a lot of anime characters with no obvious gender? Maybe a lot of these non-binary types just don't want to grow up and would rather read comic books all day.

by Anonymousreply 34August 23, 2022 5:31 AM

[quote] I would love to see a scientific study on why so many trans/non-binary people color their hair - far more than in the general population.

Which comes first? The blue dye or the tran shit?

Maybe it's something in the dye. The FDA needs to get on this stat.

by Anonymousreply 35August 23, 2022 5:58 AM

An attractive bartender with a low cut top-boobs on full display- was chatting with my wife and I. She told us she was non-binary Pan. I said like Peter? Like you're a Fairy? Then she explained pansexual- so she fucks everyone... no thanks.. We then stated our boundaries as monogamous homosexual women...people are cray cray but I know how to confuse them too!

by Anonymousreply 36August 23, 2022 6:11 AM

The hair color in my experience is actually totally separate. I have anime obsessed friends who are really straight edge, and they just wear wigs (& don’t dye their hair) for their costumes. Then I have my other, what I call “punk” friends who are really into music, mostly rock/alt/punk and love changing their hair color and style every season. Those friends are really into holidays…like Halloween & Christmas, sometimes they match their hair to the season, and their makeup too.

Oddly, in my experience it’s the anime kids who don’t do a lot of makeup, hair color, tattoos or piercings. IDK if that’s just my set of friends?

I have a question, and I am not being sarcastic. If this couple uses ze and hir, why do they use the standard version of “we” and “our?” If this couple isn’t comfortable with the generic pronoun “they,” I don’t see how “we” and “our” are different!

Just really curious how the changing pronouns thing works. Why it’s only for some pronouns, but not all.

by Anonymousreply 37August 23, 2022 6:49 AM

from the article ——- “It was like, ‘it’s the same person. This is the same person that I married. Ze’ve just changed hir gender. It’s not important. GENDER ISN’T IMPORTANT TO ME.” (caps mine)

and yet ——-

“The couple began talking more about their relationship and sexualities, opening up the relationship to explore their identities.

Mina says this process of talking so much about “feelings and things” help hir start to analyse things ze was thinking about hir gender.

“I initially started looking at myself as kind of gender-fluid, although my understanding now is that it wasn’t,” Mina says. “It was probably a non-binary identity and that gradually shifted to me coming out as trans at the end of November 2015.”

Ze continues: “It seemed to be like dominoes: Raven’s sexuality, open relationship, so much more conversation about sexuality, that led to reading and considering ideas of gender and then eventually Raven came out as non-binary a couple of years behind.”

Raven tells PinkNews they identify as genderqueer and always found questioning their gender “really confusing”. They say throwing away the shackles of gender has helped their entire family feel more comfortable talking to each other about their journeys.”

I swear it is like this for every profile I read.

by Anonymousreply 38August 23, 2022 6:58 AM

They can't simply acknowledge that gender stereotypes are stupid and restrictive and nobody fully embodies them. Instead, all this psychotic nonsense.

by Anonymousreply 39August 23, 2022 7:17 AM

Dateless wonders say what now?

by Anonymousreply 40August 23, 2022 7:37 AM

Met in 94 and married 5 years later? What the fuck? They both look only between 30 and 40 years of age. Are they some otherworldly fairies or something? Someone explain this.

by Anonymousreply 41August 23, 2022 8:07 AM

[Quote] It's obvious they're both on the autism spectrum, and they mistake the discomfort in their bodies and society for gender dysphoria.

R21 hits the nail on the head. I’m a college professor, and this is true for the vast majority of my students who declare themselves to be trans.

by Anonymousreply 42August 23, 2022 8:23 AM

I don’t know many things with absolute certainty in life, but I do know that you should never place much stock in the opinion of…someone with blue hair.

by Anonymousreply 43August 23, 2022 8:30 AM

[quote]I would love to see a scientific study on why so many trans/non-binary people color their hair - far more than in the general population.

There isn't a single person I know in real life or on any of the YT channels I watch who has dyed their hair bright colors and is also nonbinary or trans. Yet, I would never say that "no trans people dye their hair," because I know the difference between facts and observational bias.

You very clearly do not know the difference.

Saying you want a scientific study about something you just made up is insane.

by Anonymousreply 44August 23, 2022 8:33 AM

[quote]I’m a college professor

Yes, many college professors post on anti-trans troll threads on Datalounge at 4:00AM.

by Anonymousreply 45August 23, 2022 8:34 AM

"Raven" is a female woman

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by Anonymousreply 46August 23, 2022 8:44 AM

Of course that hideous blue hair and overall appearance horror cannot mask her female face either.

by Anonymousreply 47August 23, 2022 8:48 AM

"Mina" is male and from reading the article has turned his penis into a vagina.

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by Anonymousreply 48August 23, 2022 8:49 AM

Okay I thought about it and I guess they could have met when they were in their mid teens and married later on. It's unusual nowadays but possible.

by Anonymousreply 49August 23, 2022 8:49 AM

Its funny while gay couples now embracing heteronormativity by getting married , having kids , moving to the suburbs and sharing their wholesome lifestyle on Instagram while the cis-het hijack the LGBTQIAwhatever movement to validate their narcissism.

by Anonymousreply 50August 23, 2022 8:54 AM

They are not even normal cishets" but those ridden with all kind of mental illness. And most of those ugly dyed hair ones are not even "cis".

by Anonymousreply 51August 23, 2022 9:02 AM

Just found Mina and Raven's house on Google Earth.

I'd expect a tidier front garden to be honest.

by Anonymousreply 52August 23, 2022 9:24 AM

[quote]I'd expect a tidier front garden to be honest.

And is that dyed blue as well?

by Anonymousreply 53August 23, 2022 9:36 AM

Terminally boring non-entities latch onto a fad in a desperate attempt to make themselves seem interesting. Fail.

by Anonymousreply 54August 23, 2022 10:17 AM

[quote]There isn't a single person I know in real life or on any of the YT channels I watch who has dyed their hair bright colors and is also nonbinary or trans.

And therefore it doesn't exist? I see it constantly, and I live in Portland which has a huge trans and nonbinary population.

by Anonymousreply 55August 23, 2022 3:20 PM

Non-binary=leaning into the ugly

by Anonymousreply 56August 23, 2022 3:23 PM

Anyway.....I'm tired.

by Anonymousreply 57August 23, 2022 3:30 PM

Definitely barf worthy, but then I’m sure I am to them as well. I love the hair color theory! Lol…here’s an upside: we LGBTs get more tribe members, more political clout, & more protection.

by Anonymousreply 58August 23, 2022 3:31 PM

Plus an association with freaks and weirdos! Bonus, R58.

by Anonymousreply 59August 23, 2022 3:33 PM

The correct term for a man and woman swapping gender identities is a “Freaky Friday” but Urban Dictionary keeps rejecting my submission.

by Anonymousreply 60August 23, 2022 3:34 PM

So a straight woman married to a straight male cross dresser/fetishist.

by Anonymousreply 61August 23, 2022 3:37 PM

Someone recently posted that now “queer just means you watch Naruto and don’t bathe” and I thought that was great.

by Anonymousreply 62August 23, 2022 3:37 PM

So Raven planned to be a counselor but had to drop out of the program. She now is a "life coach" - ie an untrained counselor with no oversight...

by Anonymousreply 63August 23, 2022 3:45 PM

My friend Julie told them to switch genders.

by Anonymousreply 64August 23, 2022 3:49 PM

She told them "It's no big deal and everyone will love you for it."

by Anonymousreply 65August 23, 2022 3:50 PM

I do so appreciate it when even the retarded of our society can find true love.

by Anonymousreply 66August 23, 2022 3:52 PM

[quote]So Raven planned to be a counselor but had to drop out of the program. She now is a "life coach" - ie an untrained counselor with no oversight...

She charges actual money to tell you about LGBTQ stuff while you walk around a park with her.

She's like that awful Saira Rao who you pay to come to eat dinner at your house and tell you how racist you are.

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by Anonymousreply 67August 23, 2022 3:56 PM

They're cheapening gay experiences.

by Anonymousreply 68August 23, 2022 3:58 PM

They have gagged me with their "spoons"!

by Anonymousreply 69August 23, 2022 4:23 PM

R58 That’s not the upside you think it is, it’s the petard that’ll be used to hoist us.

by Anonymousreply 70August 23, 2022 5:42 PM

[quote] “It was like, ‘it’s the same person. This is the same person that I married. Ze’ve just changed hir gender. It’s not important. GENDER ISN’T IMPORTANT TO ME.” (caps mine)

Because it's a meaningless big fat nothing burger.

Which is why we all should pay it no never mind.

by Anonymousreply 71August 23, 2022 5:44 PM

Pink News is really just the pits. In what possible universe are these two plonkers in any way newsworthy?

by Anonymousreply 72August 23, 2022 6:02 PM

“They continue: “Our kids both identify as queer, [they] never had to come out because they can just think it through. It’s a safe space.””

But of course.

Reading that shit and the various alternative pronouns you’d think it was an Onion article.

by Anonymousreply 73August 23, 2022 6:08 PM

R73 Pinknews basically is The Onion at this point.

by Anonymousreply 74August 23, 2022 6:40 PM

A heterosexual couple, how brave!!!

by Anonymousreply 75August 23, 2022 6:46 PM

What's "hir"?

by Anonymousreply 76August 23, 2022 6:50 PM

[quote]What's "hir"?

The stringy mess that accumulates in the shower plug.

by Anonymousreply 77August 23, 2022 7:14 PM

These are just straight white couple swimming in word salads and labels. They were married in a Catholic Church and together biologically conceived their own children. They can travel to the most conservative country in the world and their marriage will still be recognized. The can book hotel room with double bed in Saudi Arabia or Russia anxiety free. They can publicly present themselves as a married couple without need to explain or argue with strangers. And nobody will question the "real" parents of their children.

As much as I cant stand these 2 narcissist I hate even more the gays who enabled them.

by Anonymousreply 78August 24, 2022 12:46 PM

We are swimming in cunts.

by Anonymousreply 79August 24, 2022 12:54 PM

These people are exactly why I won't accept the queer label. I grew up in the 70s and 80s, and had queer used as a hateful slur against me from elementary school on. Any random breeder couple opting into the LGBTQ++++++++++++++ umbrella, makes that umbrella useless to me. Gays and Lesbians don't need to be associated with cosplaying heteros.

by Anonymousreply 80August 25, 2022 11:34 PM

I don’t care who they fuck or what they use to fuck them, but they are too old for Manic Panic.

by Anonymousreply 81August 25, 2022 11:37 PM

Are these librarians in Texas?

by Anonymousreply 82August 26, 2022 12:08 AM

And then there is the trans mommy and the trans daddy and the trans child runway model

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by Anonymousreply 83August 26, 2022 1:50 AM

The link at R83 is outrageous. Gays and lesbians have been accused of “recruiting” children but the TQ cult is actually doing it. The trans movement is dangerous and predatory, and must be stopped.

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by Anonymousreply 84August 26, 2022 2:22 AM

Isn't the one in the pink shirt the gay nightlife guy accused of misconduct?

by Anonymousreply 85August 26, 2022 3:03 AM

Careful, r84. You're gonna fuck around and get this thread deleted too.

God forbid we be seen speaking out against this filth and show we're also against what's been going on with kids lately under the guise of "gay rights" by the TQ cult. Otherwise, they may actually see it's not gays, lesbians, and bisexuals primarily pushing it which will likely put a stop to the madness.

No. We must also go down with the clown ship.

by Anonymousreply 86August 26, 2022 3:19 AM

Both fucking ugly and looks like a dyke couple. Ultimately, who fucking cares about their dumb horseshit titles. These queers are obnoxious and dying for attention. Enough already nobody gives any fucks about this shit. It's like 10 year olds are in charge and they are trying to make everybody speak pig Latin.

by Anonymousreply 87August 26, 2022 3:24 AM

Very sad that those two tranny freaks @ R83 who transed their own kid also banned the bio father from seeing him....based on trumped up charges of child abuse. What a fucked up world. THEY are the ones who should have their parental rights stripped away.

by Anonymousreply 88August 26, 2022 3:26 AM

That fugly boy is not model material---male or female.

by Anonymousreply 89August 26, 2022 3:28 AM

I'm sorry, but that kid in R83 is not attractive at all.

by Anonymousreply 90August 26, 2022 5:46 AM

Still good enough for the New York Fashion Week pervs

by Anonymousreply 91August 26, 2022 5:51 AM

What the hell...the wife has short hair? and the husband has long hair? That is fucking wackiness the likes of which I've never seen! If they were smart, they'd take their queerness to NYC and open a rival restaurant to HAGS, let them have a Telly/Camille stare off and see who can out non-hetero couple the other ones. At least Telly and his chick don't have kids.

by Anonymousreply 92August 26, 2022 4:06 PM
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