'Trans, non-binary couple say coming out of the ‘cis, het closet’ brightened their relationship'
As far as I can tell, they're just a hetero couple, but I couldn't parse this with any surety.
[quote]Mina says this process of talking so much about “feelings and things” help hir start to analyse things ze was thinking about hir gender.
Yes, one of them has blue hair, to no one's surprise.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 92 | August 26, 2022 4:06 PM
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Because just being straight doesn't make you "special".
by Anonymous | reply 2 | August 23, 2022 12:43 AM
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And yet no value ascribed to cosmetic dentistry.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | August 23, 2022 12:47 AM
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I would love to see a scientific study on why so many trans/non-binary people color their hair - far more than in the general population.
My own feeling is that it's because so many of them are needy for attention and will do whatever it takes to get it.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | August 23, 2022 12:47 AM
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A bunch of mumbo jumbo concocted when they came to the realization that they are both really bad in bed.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | August 23, 2022 12:47 AM
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r3 if that's true, then they don't count. they're just poor victims of the toxic masculinity in the gay community.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | August 23, 2022 12:48 AM
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I took a phone survey today and was asked whether I "identified as" man, woman, non-binary, or something else/prefer not to answer. For god's sake.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | August 23, 2022 12:49 AM
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[quote]They continue: “Our kids both identify as queer, [they] never had to come out because they can just think it through. It’s a safe space.”
Tragic.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | August 23, 2022 12:49 AM
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r5 they've really ruined it for everyone else... and so much more.,
you can't wear a collar anymore without someone thinking you're an otherkin either.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | August 23, 2022 12:50 AM
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Talking about feelings and things is always a bad idea.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | August 23, 2022 12:50 AM
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r12 the fraus and lesbians like to obsess on it because they've been booted from everywhere else... it's their version of porn.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 13 | August 23, 2022 12:53 AM
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[quote]I would love to see a scientific study on why so many trans/non-binary people color their hair - far more than in the general population.
I imagine it's connected to the obsession with anime, where so many characters have Crayola-colored hair.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | August 23, 2022 1:28 AM
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So many words in that article and not a single clear thought among them.
I feel sorry for the women married to these men. And they stay because they love them and have children - but man, the boundaries shifting and all the bullshit has to be a fucking lot to take.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | August 23, 2022 1:36 AM
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Pinkness is such a piece of shit. I don’t know why they just don’t rebrand as trans news. They have a trans section ide tidied in the website menu but no gay, lesbian, or bi section.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | August 23, 2022 1:45 AM
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That article gave me an aneurysm. I'm going to sue.
To whom do I serve the papers? Pink or the author?
by Anonymous | reply 19 | August 23, 2022 1:50 AM
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Does the taller one have a smurf bush too?
by Anonymous | reply 20 | August 23, 2022 2:06 AM
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I'd rather they go by they/them than ze and hir. They were married as a traditional catholic heterosexual couple in 94. And they seem to have a completely tumblrized perspective of what it means to be gay or trans. I just don't know what to make of these two. It's obvious they're both on the autism spectrum, and they mistake the discomfort in their bodies and society for gender dysphoria. The female changed after the male. Very common. Females are incredible at adapting to changes in order to keep their males. They both watch anime and are into furry communities.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | August 23, 2022 2:11 AM
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They both look like women. Are they lesbians?
by Anonymous | reply 22 | August 23, 2022 2:12 AM
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I thought they were both lesbians too
by Anonymous | reply 23 | August 23, 2022 2:12 AM
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Wait, there's a biological male in that photo?
JFC.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | August 23, 2022 2:28 AM
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More tedious straight people desperate to be special. Well, speshul they certainly are. Fucking retards. Or should that be zetards?
And fuck pinknews, fucking traitors to gay people.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | August 23, 2022 2:38 AM
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Poor kids. Being raised in this sick tranny cult is really going to fuck them up for life.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | August 23, 2022 2:41 AM
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r1 Are you blind? The longhaired one has an unmistakable manface.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | August 23, 2022 2:46 AM
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What in the world. I stopped reading at "ze". Never was good at foreign languages. Too old to learn this one now.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | August 23, 2022 2:55 AM
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Yeah R27, you're right. I took a much closer look and the long-haired one is a man. these people are so weird.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | August 23, 2022 2:55 AM
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When being hipster douchebags simply won’t do.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | August 23, 2022 3:03 AM
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the long haired one looks like Sarah Huckabee Sanders after a crash diet.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | August 23, 2022 4:31 AM
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R24 The article says they were married in a Catholic ceremony in 1994. So I'm guessing they weren't lesbians then. I know it's hard, but one of them does have a prominent brow bone.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | August 23, 2022 4:41 AM
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[quote]I imagine it's connected to the obsession with anime, where so many characters have Crayola-colored hair.
I bet this does play a part, actually. Are there a lot of anime characters with no obvious gender? Maybe a lot of these non-binary types just don't want to grow up and would rather read comic books all day.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | August 23, 2022 5:31 AM
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[quote] I would love to see a scientific study on why so many trans/non-binary people color their hair - far more than in the general population.
Which comes first? The blue dye or the tran shit?
Maybe it's something in the dye. The FDA needs to get on this stat.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | August 23, 2022 5:58 AM
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An attractive bartender with a low cut top-boobs on full display- was chatting with my wife and I. She told us she was non-binary Pan. I said like Peter? Like you're a Fairy? Then she explained pansexual- so she fucks everyone... no thanks.. We then stated our boundaries as monogamous homosexual women...people are cray cray but I know how to confuse them too!
by Anonymous | reply 36 | August 23, 2022 6:11 AM
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The hair color in my experience is actually totally separate. I have anime obsessed friends who are really straight edge, and they just wear wigs (& don’t dye their hair) for their costumes. Then I have my other, what I call “punk” friends who are really into music, mostly rock/alt/punk and love changing their hair color and style every season. Those friends are really into holidays…like Halloween & Christmas, sometimes they match their hair to the season, and their makeup too.
Oddly, in my experience it’s the anime kids who don’t do a lot of makeup, hair color, tattoos or piercings. IDK if that’s just my set of friends?
I have a question, and I am not being sarcastic. If this couple uses ze and hir, why do they use the standard version of “we” and “our?” If this couple isn’t comfortable with the generic pronoun “they,” I don’t see how “we” and “our” are different!
Just really curious how the changing pronouns thing works. Why it’s only for some pronouns, but not all.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | August 23, 2022 6:49 AM
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from the article ——- “It was like, ‘it’s the same person. This is the same person that I married. Ze’ve just changed hir gender. It’s not important. GENDER ISN’T IMPORTANT TO ME.” (caps mine)
and yet ——-
“The couple began talking more about their relationship and sexualities, opening up the relationship to explore their identities.
Mina says this process of talking so much about “feelings and things” help hir start to analyse things ze was thinking about hir gender.
“I initially started looking at myself as kind of gender-fluid, although my understanding now is that it wasn’t,” Mina says. “It was probably a non-binary identity and that gradually shifted to me coming out as trans at the end of November 2015.”
Ze continues: “It seemed to be like dominoes: Raven’s sexuality, open relationship, so much more conversation about sexuality, that led to reading and considering ideas of gender and then eventually Raven came out as non-binary a couple of years behind.”
Raven tells PinkNews they identify as genderqueer and always found questioning their gender “really confusing”. They say throwing away the shackles of gender has helped their entire family feel more comfortable talking to each other about their journeys.”
I swear it is like this for every profile I read.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | August 23, 2022 6:58 AM
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They can't simply acknowledge that gender stereotypes are stupid and restrictive and nobody fully embodies them. Instead, all this psychotic nonsense.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | August 23, 2022 7:17 AM
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Dateless wonders say what now?
by Anonymous | reply 40 | August 23, 2022 7:37 AM
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Met in 94 and married 5 years later? What the fuck? They both look only between 30 and 40 years of age. Are they some otherworldly fairies or something? Someone explain this.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | August 23, 2022 8:07 AM
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[Quote] It's obvious they're both on the autism spectrum, and they mistake the discomfort in their bodies and society for gender dysphoria.
R21 hits the nail on the head. I’m a college professor, and this is true for the vast majority of my students who declare themselves to be trans.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | August 23, 2022 8:23 AM
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I don’t know many things with absolute certainty in life, but I do know that you should never place much stock in the opinion of…someone with blue hair.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | August 23, 2022 8:30 AM
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[quote]I would love to see a scientific study on why so many trans/non-binary people color their hair - far more than in the general population.
There isn't a single person I know in real life or on any of the YT channels I watch who has dyed their hair bright colors and is also nonbinary or trans. Yet, I would never say that "no trans people dye their hair," because I know the difference between facts and observational bias.
You very clearly do not know the difference.
Saying you want a scientific study about something you just made up is insane.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | August 23, 2022 8:33 AM
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[quote]I’m a college professor
Yes, many college professors post on anti-trans troll threads on Datalounge at 4:00AM.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | August 23, 2022 8:34 AM
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"Raven" is a female woman
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 46 | August 23, 2022 8:44 AM
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Of course that hideous blue hair and overall appearance horror cannot mask her female face either.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | August 23, 2022 8:48 AM
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"Mina" is male and from reading the article has turned his penis into a vagina.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 48 | August 23, 2022 8:49 AM
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Okay I thought about it and I guess they could have met when they were in their mid teens and married later on. It's unusual nowadays but possible.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | August 23, 2022 8:49 AM
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Its funny while gay couples now embracing heteronormativity by getting married , having kids , moving to the suburbs and sharing their wholesome lifestyle on Instagram while the cis-het hijack the LGBTQIAwhatever movement to validate their narcissism.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | August 23, 2022 8:54 AM
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They are not even normal cishets" but those ridden with all kind of mental illness. And most of those ugly dyed hair ones are not even "cis".
by Anonymous | reply 51 | August 23, 2022 9:02 AM
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Just found Mina and Raven's house on Google Earth.
I'd expect a tidier front garden to be honest.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | August 23, 2022 9:24 AM
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[quote]I'd expect a tidier front garden to be honest.
And is that dyed blue as well?
by Anonymous | reply 53 | August 23, 2022 9:36 AM
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Terminally boring non-entities latch onto a fad in a desperate attempt to make themselves seem interesting. Fail.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | August 23, 2022 10:17 AM
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[quote]There isn't a single person I know in real life or on any of the YT channels I watch who has dyed their hair bright colors and is also nonbinary or trans.
And therefore it doesn't exist? I see it constantly, and I live in Portland which has a huge trans and nonbinary population.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | August 23, 2022 3:20 PM
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Non-binary=leaning into the ugly
by Anonymous | reply 56 | August 23, 2022 3:23 PM
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Definitely barf worthy, but then I’m sure I am to them as well. I love the hair color theory! Lol…here’s an upside: we LGBTs get more tribe members, more political clout, & more protection.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | August 23, 2022 3:31 PM
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Plus an association with freaks and weirdos! Bonus, R58.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | August 23, 2022 3:33 PM
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The correct term for a man and woman swapping gender identities is a “Freaky Friday” but Urban Dictionary keeps rejecting my submission.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | August 23, 2022 3:34 PM
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So a straight woman married to a straight male cross dresser/fetishist.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | August 23, 2022 3:37 PM
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Someone recently posted that now “queer just means you watch Naruto and don’t bathe” and I thought that was great.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | August 23, 2022 3:37 PM
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So Raven planned to be a counselor but had to drop out of the program. She now is a "life coach" - ie an untrained counselor with no oversight...
by Anonymous | reply 63 | August 23, 2022 3:45 PM
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My friend Julie told them to switch genders.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | August 23, 2022 3:49 PM
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She told them "It's no big deal and everyone will love you for it."
by Anonymous | reply 65 | August 23, 2022 3:50 PM
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I do so appreciate it when even the retarded of our society can find true love.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | August 23, 2022 3:52 PM
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[quote]So Raven planned to be a counselor but had to drop out of the program. She now is a "life coach" - ie an untrained counselor with no oversight...
She charges actual money to tell you about LGBTQ stuff while you walk around a park with her.
She's like that awful Saira Rao who you pay to come to eat dinner at your house and tell you how racist you are.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 67 | August 23, 2022 3:56 PM
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They're cheapening gay experiences.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | August 23, 2022 3:58 PM
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They have gagged me with their "spoons"!
by Anonymous | reply 69 | August 23, 2022 4:23 PM
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R58 That’s not the upside you think it is, it’s the petard that’ll be used to hoist us.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | August 23, 2022 5:42 PM
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[quote] “It was like, ‘it’s the same person. This is the same person that I married. Ze’ve just changed hir gender. It’s not important. GENDER ISN’T IMPORTANT TO ME.” (caps mine)
Because it's a meaningless big fat nothing burger.
Which is why we all should pay it no never mind.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | August 23, 2022 5:44 PM
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Pink News is really just the pits. In what possible universe are these two plonkers in any way newsworthy?
by Anonymous | reply 72 | August 23, 2022 6:02 PM
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“They continue: “Our kids both identify as queer, [they] never had to come out because they can just think it through. It’s a safe space.””
But of course.
Reading that shit and the various alternative pronouns you’d think it was an Onion article.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | August 23, 2022 6:08 PM
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R73 Pinknews basically is The Onion at this point.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | August 23, 2022 6:40 PM
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A heterosexual couple, how brave!!!
by Anonymous | reply 75 | August 23, 2022 6:46 PM
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[quote]What's "hir"?
The stringy mess that accumulates in the shower plug.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | August 23, 2022 7:14 PM
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These are just straight white couple swimming in word salads and labels. They were married in a Catholic Church and together biologically conceived their own children. They can travel to the most conservative country in the world and their marriage will still be recognized. The can book hotel room with double bed in Saudi Arabia or Russia anxiety free. They can publicly present themselves as a married couple without need to explain or argue with strangers. And nobody will question the "real" parents of their children.
As much as I cant stand these 2 narcissist I hate even more the gays who enabled them.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | August 24, 2022 12:46 PM
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We are swimming in cunts.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | August 24, 2022 12:54 PM
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These people are exactly why I won't accept the queer label. I grew up in the 70s and 80s, and had queer used as a hateful slur against me from elementary school on. Any random breeder couple opting into the LGBTQ++++++++++++++ umbrella, makes that umbrella useless to me. Gays and Lesbians don't need to be associated with cosplaying heteros.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | August 25, 2022 11:34 PM
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I don’t care who they fuck or what they use to fuck them, but they are too old for Manic Panic.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | August 25, 2022 11:37 PM
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Are these librarians in Texas?
by Anonymous | reply 82 | August 26, 2022 12:08 AM
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And then there is the trans mommy and the trans daddy and the trans child runway model
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 83 | August 26, 2022 1:50 AM
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The link at R83 is outrageous. Gays and lesbians have been accused of “recruiting” children but the TQ cult is actually doing it. The trans movement is dangerous and predatory, and must be stopped.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 84 | August 26, 2022 2:22 AM
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Isn't the one in the pink shirt the gay nightlife guy accused of misconduct?
by Anonymous | reply 85 | August 26, 2022 3:03 AM
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Careful, r84. You're gonna fuck around and get this thread deleted too.
God forbid we be seen speaking out against this filth and show we're also against what's been going on with kids lately under the guise of "gay rights" by the TQ cult. Otherwise, they may actually see it's not gays, lesbians, and bisexuals primarily pushing it which will likely put a stop to the madness.
No. We must also go down with the clown ship.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | August 26, 2022 3:19 AM
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Both fucking ugly and looks like a dyke couple. Ultimately, who fucking cares about their dumb horseshit titles. These queers are obnoxious and dying for attention. Enough already nobody gives any fucks about this shit. It's like 10 year olds are in charge and they are trying to make everybody speak pig Latin.
by Anonymous | reply 87 | August 26, 2022 3:24 AM
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Very sad that those two tranny freaks @ R83 who transed their own kid also banned the bio father from seeing him....based on trumped up charges of child abuse. What a fucked up world. THEY are the ones who should have their parental rights stripped away.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | August 26, 2022 3:26 AM
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That fugly boy is not model material---male or female.
by Anonymous | reply 89 | August 26, 2022 3:28 AM
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I'm sorry, but that kid in R83 is not attractive at all.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | August 26, 2022 5:46 AM
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Still good enough for the New York Fashion Week pervs
by Anonymous | reply 91 | August 26, 2022 5:51 AM
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What the hell...the wife has short hair? and the husband has long hair? That is fucking wackiness the likes of which I've never seen! If they were smart, they'd take their queerness to NYC and open a rival restaurant to HAGS, let them have a Telly/Camille stare off and see who can out non-hetero couple the other ones. At least Telly and his chick don't have kids.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | August 26, 2022 4:06 PM
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