Far-right Italian leader Giorgia Meloni blasted for posting rape video

Right Wingers in the US and Europe are becoming quite brazen.

There really is nothing too low for them.

It's like they really enjoy rolling in the mud, like the pigs that they are.

What's worse, is that voters are lapping up all this hatred.

So where is the video ?

Meloni? Does she have a weird-shaped head reminiscent of that of Bert of Bert and Ernie fame?

Is she related to Giogio Moroder?

She'll probably be the next leader of Italy.

It's weird how Italians lean towards fascism.

Even the ones in this country are some of Trump's biggest supporters.

[quote] It's weird how Italians lean towards fascism.

Should we tell her, rest of DL?

It does seem they veer between corrupt oligarchy, anarchy, and fascism. It's like they are always trying to live out Aristotle's Politics. Stop doing that, Italy! Come up with a semi-decent government and stop dicking around all the time.

Although I guess you mainly just ignore government and do your own thing, anyway.

[quote]"One cannot remain silent in the face of this atrocious episode of sexual violence against a Ukrainian woman carried out in daytime in Piacenza by an asylum seeker,"

Good for her!

I truly hope the Fratelli d'Italia win. As they have in local elections.

Of course the American "progressives" would love nothing more than to see Italy turned into a shithole.

[quote]It does seem they veer between corrupt oligarchy, anarchy, and fascism. It's like they are always trying to live out Aristotle's Politics. Stop doing that, Italy! Come up with a semi-decent government and stop dicking around all the time.

Yeah, Italy really needs to learn from Americans!

Yes, obviously that is the dream of every American "progressive," r8. We won't rest until Italy becomes a shithole!

[quote] Of course the American "progressives" would love nothing more than to see Italy turned into a shithole.

I hate to break it to you dear, but Italy was always a shit hole.

Don't let the pretty statues and good food fool you.

[quote]It does seem they veer between corrupt oligarchy, anarchy, and fascism.

You know nothing about Italy. Nothing.

The country, the society, has been surprisingly stable since the 1970s. More so than the US. That's for sure.

Well not these days, r9. that much is true, but honestly was Belusconi any better than Trump? And honestly, have you ever had a good government, like, ever?

R11 I lived there for over 30 years. And not in an expat bubble. Lived, worked, speak the language fluently. I know the country.

You don't.

Great, r14. Good for you. Did you find the government sensible and intelligent or ridiculous and corrupt?

[quote]And honestly, have you ever had a good government, like, ever?

Let's see: Italy has a social safety net, well regarded universal health care, free higher education....I could go on and on.

What I want to know is why is the US so fucking backwards?

The fuck is wrong with you r2? Go back to 4chan.

American progressives aren't thinking about Ital, r8. Do get over yourself, dear.

In a word, the South r16. The fucking civil war. It's a whole goddamn thing, and we can never get over it. Jesus Fuck with these people, but here we are. The absolute terror that any black person will not live and die in misery is such a damn trauma for these fuckers. Oh well.

You are fabulously corrupt though, aren't you Italy? Do you think you aren't?

[quote]Did you find the government sensible and intelligent or ridiculous and corrupt?

Corruption? The US, the MOST corrupt country in the world, the country that has legalized corruption (known as lobbies) is an embarrassment.

(BTW: To list above, let me add extensive public transportation.)

[quote]And honestly, have you ever had a good government, like, ever?

You don't have lobbies? You don't have rich assholes secretly running everything? If not, well, I salute you, or would if I believed you. And that's before we get into the whole mafia thing. What was that road, the one in Naples that took a ridiculous amount of time cause of all the corrupt shit? Am I wrong about that? There's definitely some shit in southern Italy. Come on, there totally is.

The term "de facto" originated on the Italian peninsula. R8 is the sock to Italy's boot stamping on a face.

We are crazed gun nuts r20, that is true. But that actually isn't a function of national government. It's crazed gun nuts that pretty much control government at the local level, and always, invariably vote gun nut. That is true.

Crimes by immigrants must never be an issue

no, I'm not quite right about that. Gun Nuts control the entire Republican Party, at every level of government. Being a gun nut is definitely job one for every Republican politician. That much is true.

[quote]What was that road, the one in Naples that took a ridiculous amount of time cause of all the corrupt shit?

LOL.

Tell us, do you know anything about the saga of the 2nd Avenue Subway?

Italians are animals.

Wild, violent, animals who lack any sort of humanity. They'll get the government they deserve.

[quote] The brutal attack of Nigerian vendor Alika Ogorchukwu was reportedly filmed by onlookers without any apparent attempt to intervene physically

Police in Italy arrested an Italian man in the slaying of a Nigerian vendor whose brutal beating death on a busy beach town thoroughfare was filmed by onlookers without any apparent attempt to intervene physically.

Video footage of the attack has circulated widely on Italian news websites and social media, eliciting outrage as Italy enters a parliamentary election campaign in which the right-wing coalition has already made immigration an issue.

“The murder of Alika Ogorchukwu is dismaying,’’ Enrico Letta, a former premier and the head of the left-wing Democratic Party, wrote Saturday on Twitter, naming the vendor who died Friday. “Unheard of ferocity. Widespread indifference. There can be no justification.”

Right-wing leader Matteo Salvini, who is making security a plank of his campaign, also expressed outrage over the death, saying “security has no color and ... needs to return to being a right.”

Ogorchukwu, 39, was selling goods Friday on the main street of Civitanova Marche, a beach town on the Adriatic Sea, when his attacker grabbed the vendor's crutch and struck him down, according to police. Video shows the assailant wrestling the victim onto his back on the pavement as he fought back, eventually subduing Ogorchukwu with the weight of his body.

"The aggressor went after the victim, first hitting him with a crutch. He made him fall to the ground, then he finished, causing the death, striking repeatedly with his bare hands,' police investigator Matteo Luconi told a press conference.

He later told Italian news channel Sky TG24 that onlookers called police, who responded after the suspect had fled and attempted to administer aid to the victim. An autopsy will determine if the death was provoked by blows, suffocation or another cause.

Police used street cameras to track the assailant's movements and detained a man identified as Filippo Claudio Giuseppe Ferlazzo, 32. He was being held on suspicion of murder and theft for allegedly taking the victim’s phone.

Luconi said the assailant lashed out after the vendor made “insistent” requests for pocket change. Police were questioning witnesses and viewing videos of the attack. They said the suspect has made no statement.

Ogorchukwu, who was married with two children, resorted to selling goods on the street after he was struck by a car and lost his job as a laborer due to his injuries, said Daniel Amanza, who runs the ACSIM association for immigrants in the Marche region's Macerata province.

Amanza gave a different version of what happened, saying the attacker became infuriated when Ogorchukwu told the man's companion she was beautiful.

“This compliment killed him,’’ Amanza told The Associated Press.

“The tragic fact is that there were many people nearby. They filmed, saying ‘Stop,’ but no one moved to separate them,’’ Amanza said.

Macerata was the site of a 2018 shooting spree targeting African immigrants that wounded six people. Luca Traini, 31, was sentenced to 12 years in prison for the shootings, which Italy’s highest court confirmed qualified as a hate crime.

Civitanova Marche's mayor, Fabrizio Ciarapica, met with members of the Nigerian community after hundreds demonstrated on Saturday.

“My condemnation is not only for the (crime) but it is also for the indifference,' Ciarapica told Sky. ”This is something that has shocked citizens."

Former Premier Matteo Renzi, who heads his own small party, called out political leaders for “instrumentalizing” the attack.

“I am horrified by this electoral climate,″ he said on social media. ”A father was killed in an atrocious and racist way while passersby took video without stopping the aggressor. And instead of reflecting on what we are becoming, politicians argue and instrumentalize.”

[quote]We are crazed gun nuts [R20], that is true. But that actually isn't a function of national government.

What a fool you are.

R27 You know why that was so shocking in Italy? Because it was so rare.

A weekend in Chicago won't even equal 10 years in Italy.

This Meloni bitch is exactly the type that riles up the wild masses in Italy (see R27), much like how Donald Trump does for MAGATS and insurrectionists.

They're cut from the same cloth.

Trump hasn't only emboldened hatred and violence in our own country.

He has made it acceptable all over the world.

No, it is actually at the state level, mostly, r28. You may not know this, but it really is. Foreigners might not understand this dynamic, but most states are completely gun nut states and so if you can't get guns in your own state, you can generally go to a neighboring state and buy them there. It's a whole thing.

R30 No, you are wrong.

You know nothing about Italy. It is NOT the US.

so you think she has no chance r32. Well, hope not. LePen did pretty well, although obviously didn't win. Maybe Europe can hold back the madness awhile longer. That would be great. You didn't do so well in the 20th century, but maybe the 21st is different.

If it depicts a real crime situation that seriously needs redressing, why the outrage at seeing it?

If it’s so terrible for the viewers’ sensibility, imagine the real horror that happened to the rape victim

R33 My town in Italy is governed by the Brothers of Italy. A town that historically voted left. For 70 years voted left without interruption. The mayor just won reelection.

You might want to ask Italians why they have abandoned the left.

[quote] If it depicts a real crime situation that seriously needs redressing, why the outrage at seeing it?

You DO realize that the percentage of rapists in Italy, is probably 99% native Italian and 1% immigrant.

Yet the right wing would have you believe that immigrants are taking Italian jobs away, and causing all the crime, and raping all the women.

Fucking idiots.

Rapes happen everywhere in Italy, by people of all races. Mainly white European. Mainly Italian, in Italy.

But keep pretending that it's all dark immigrants. Keep scapegoating them. Keep killing them at random.

That's exactly what evil right-wing leaders want you to do.

If I found out that a politician was propagating a video of my rape to get more votes I wouldn’t react very sanely. I’ll just leave it at that.

I'm asking right now r35. Why do you think that is? Immigration, I'm guessing, but is that it?

Please cite sources

[quote] You DO realize that the percentage of rapists in Italy, is probably 99% native Italian and 1% immigrant.

[quote] You didn't do so well in the 20th century, but maybe the 21st is different.

The 21st century is when even everything changes.

love a captain jack harkness reference, always. Oh, sex on a stick.

R36 Is typical. More mass immigration.

Sorry, but we don't want to become France.

Gee, why is Sweden now the gun violence capital of Europe?

Ya think it's because the SWEDES have suddenly become violent?

Sweden is the gun violence capital? Shit, that is actually shocking. (Yeah, I know, compared to the US it's probably nothing, but still, even within Europe, Sweden? Seriously?)

R43 It's the Europe R36 wants.

This is precisely why Italy has never been, and never will be a first-tier European country.

They're so uncivilized.

Some woke poster is spewing shit. 52% of rapes in Rome are committed by immigrants. It's 59% in Milan.

Fuck these African economic migrants. We don't want them in Europe. Most of them are Muzzies, too. They stink as well.

These illegal immigrants should be sent back to the hellholes from which they came.

r46 you can't just make statistics up. Where are you getting those numbers from? I've only seen those numbers in Breitbart, not exactly noted for the accuracy of its research, and it claims it got those numbers from the Italian Ministry of the Interior. The head of the ministry of the interior is noted anti-immigrant, Matteo Salvini, who has said many times that he would like every single non-Italian to be expelled from Italy, so, again, I would question any statistics he "compiles" ie, pulls out of his ass. In any objective study of rape, compiled by professionals without an axe to grind, the results are always the same. The majority of rapes are perpetrated by someone who knows the victim personally - often a friend or family member. The number of rapes in Italy has remained more or less steady (between 4 and 5.000 a year) starting long before the arrival of large numbers of immigrants. I wouldn't doubt that immigrants rape out of proportion to their numbers in the population, because of poverty, anger, mental health issues related to separation from family and native language, frustration at inability to meet people of the opposite sex, etc - but that doesn't mean that they commit the majority.

[quote] “The murder of Alika Ogorchukwu is dismaying,’’ Enrico Letta, a former premier and the head of the left-wing Democratic Party, wrote Saturday on Twitter, naming the vendor who died Friday. “Unheard of ferocity. Widespread indifference. There can be no justification.”

A politician can use the murder of a Nigerian, but the use of a Guinean raping a Ukrainian draws outrage. People don’t want anything to disrupt the flow of migrants from Africa to Europe.

I think the outrage was the posting of the VIDEO, not the use of the STORY, r49. I think there are lots of reasons for people to want to stop or slow the flow of immigrants coming across the Mediterranean, not least the dangerous conditions of the crossings, and the hostile reception waiting on the other side. I don't think there are hordes of people from any political party in Italy or elsewhere in Europe who see these migrations as a good thing. But absent a total blockade of the Mediterranean, checking every single boat with warships, it is very difficult to stop the flow completely - and then you have to divide the people of Italy into those who believe in treating people in awful circumstances humanely and those who don't. The far right parties don't have a solution - they just want their followers to keep parroting their party line that all crime and all problems in the country stem from the immigrants -that without them, Italy would be a paradise without crime and without economic problems.

R50, Italy only has to target making successful attempts to enter illegally very rare, and not target achieving zero cases. Yes, the people of Italy will be divided between those who want to do the right thing by preventing the migrants from entering the country and so preventing any crimes the migrants may commit and those who only care about the migrants and not at all about what harm any of the migrants may inflict, but what can you do?

[quote] I wouldn't doubt that immigrants rape out of proportion to their numbers in the population, because of poverty, anger, mental health issues related to separation from family and native language, frustration at inability to meet people of the opposite sex, etc - but that doesn't mean that they commit the majority.

35.5% of prisoners in Italian jails are immigrants. The number is even higher if you include Italian citizens of a foreign background. So they do cause a wildly disproportionate number of crimes.

Do you read the Italian papers and crime reports? I do. Have you ever lived there? I have.

[quote]The far right parties don't have a solution - they just want their followers to keep parroting their party line that all crime and all problems in the country stem from the immigrants

All problems? No one is saying that.

Giorgia may be fascist, but on this matter she is telling the truth that liberals are covering up. Immigrants from extremely patriarchal and misogynist cultures are attacking and raping women in Western Europe and the authorities are impotent because of fear of being seen as Islamophobic and racist.

A black Somali feminist Ayan Hirsi Ali is warning of the same horrible trend.

Also.

[quote] Giorgia may be fascist, but on this matter she is telling the truth that liberals are covering up. Immigrants from extremely patriarchal and misogynist cultures are attacking and raping women in Western Europe

Yeah, because white European men never rape women.

Rofl.

Give me a fucking break, you stupid cunt.

I don’t know anything about her, but reposting a video doesn’t bother me. I’m sure these immigrants are destructive parasites, and if I were Italian I probably wouldn’t want them ruining my neighborhood either.

Calling you a cunt would be an insult for cunt R55.

There is a big difference between random assault from some maniac and 1500 idiots attacking 500 women who dared to go out alone in New Year's eve night.

And yes, white Europeans are far less likely to commit sexual assaults, particularly mass rapes than men from more misogynist cultures, cultures that genitally mutilate women and where it is expected that women will be closed at home and not go out without male relatives and with fully covered body and where the women going out at night is seen as prey asking to be raped.

But if you had at least cunt in your head instead of void you would understand that. Too bad your cunt is in your asshole where you are receiving cumdumps, try to remove it in your head.

European men my have many faults, but, at least in last centuries it is not costume to gang rape women on public protests.

Also.

In Sweden, though foreign born men make 20% of population they commit almost 50% of rapes. Most of them are from Middle East/North Africa and the rest of Africa.

According to the researchers, Swedish-born offenders with Swedish-born parents accounted for 40.8% of the offenders. But, strikingly, almost half of the offenders were born outside of Sweden (47.7%). Of those foreign-born offenders, 34.5% were from the Middle East/North Africa, with 19.1% hailing from the rest of Africa. As a percentage of all convicted perpetrators, therefore, 16.4% were foreign-born individuals from the Middle East/North Africa, and 9.1% were foreign-born individuals from Africa (excluding North Africa).

How far does this signify over-representation? On the basis of population records kept by the official agency Statistics Sweden (SCB), approximately 20% (19.7%) of the Swedish population are foreign-born individuals. Among those convicted of rape and perpetrated rape, the foreign-born account for 47.7% of those convicted — so they are over-represented by a factor of 2.4.

I have a female friend from Italy who told me how cities in Italy, where they were walking freely at all time of day, have become very dangerous for women after dark, because of Middle eastern and African immigrants.

Bologna, once the communist center of Italy, now votes for right, because people are sick of left impotence.

The article at R60 was not written of some white supremacist, but by mentioned Somali woman.

Why don't you learn English, stupid cunt at R57.

You sound like an illiterate animal.

Because intelligent people can understand my English. You were too busy being fucked by your father to develop your abilities of reading comprehension.

Your English sounds poor too, your daddy should have let you talk more instead of just pushing his cock in your mouth all the time.

You are just frustrated R63, because nobody wants to fuck you since your daddy became impotent.

Sounds like she framed the crime as "DANGEROUS DIRTY BLACK AFRICAN refugee on WHITE" crime. But it was also REFUGEE ON REFUGEE crime. Both are refugees.

Perhaps the European Right should do this: Accept 40 million WHITE Ukrainian refugees as permanent residents in EU states, and then send 40 million DARKIE & TOWELHEAD folks to Ukraine to do the best they can.

But one refugee is rapist and the other is not. Also, Ukrainian refugees are women, children and old people, since men are forced to stay home and fight in the war.

While African "refugees" are almost all young males. Makes you wonder what happened to women, children and old people..

It's not that she used the rape politically that has them foaming at the mouth, it's that it highlighted that it was a black immigrant that did it. I'm sorry but the way Europe has covered up the violence toward women brought into these countries by the misogynistic immigrants from Africa and the Middle East is disgusting. Women who were formerly safely ensconced in the most progressive continent on the planet now have to worry every single day about being attacked in the streets by these cretins and then having that crime covered up for political correctness. Fuck that shit.

[quote] More so than the US. That's for sure.

Sure Jan. Berlusconi was Trump before Trump was Trump.

Meanwhile Italian politics are so tumultuous, there’s a new government almost every year — 69 since World War Two as opposed to (for instance) 29 in the UK in the same period. So stable!

There really are differences among populations that are due to genetics. We blame it on socioeconomics and racism, but we are ignoring a harsh reality.

Her name means melons.....how bizarre.

Italians have been so fucking sexually aggressive with women especially foreign women. Melons should worry about her men raping and assaulting foreign women.

How long will it take before it penetrates your thick skulls that everyone KNOWS that Britain/Sweden/Italy have always had some men who have been a threat to women (rapists, etc.), but that voluntarily importing people who will do more of the same is totally unnecessary?

The Italian government can't deport its native citizens who commit these crimes. What they do have power over is the presence of foreign men in their country.

Pitiful nation. With a history of being surrender monkeys. Like France. Lots of great contributions to culture and science, but questionable in terms of morality and ethics.

Amen r74.

R74 Italian Men ate by far the most harrowing and specially voracious men in Europe. Their reputation precedes them. Italians have moved all over the world. How were the men perceived in those countries? Italy also has a big culture of harassment against women. Melon I should be brave and address that. Get rid of the Harvey Whalesteins in Italy first Meloni.

[quote]Pitiful nation. With a history of being surrender monkeys. Like France. Lots of great contributions to culture and science, but questionable in terms of morality and ethics.

Ya gotta love Americans preaching to other countries about "morality and ethics" of all things.

What on earth are you talking abouT?

[quote]Italians have been so fucking sexually aggressive with women especially foreign women.

[quote]Italian Men are by far the most harrowing and specially voracious men in Europe.

[quote]Italians have been so fucking sexually aggressive with women especially foreign women.

So you people just make shit up.

That's all you've got: bullshit.

Who TF rapes a 55 year old woman? And in daylight on the street? A savage African. These types do it it to their own in their countries of origin as well. Next up: machete attacks.

[Quote]you can't just make statistics up

They are legitimate governmental statistics which you have acknowledged but refuse to accept. Too woke for facts.

White Europeans using rape to foment genocide? Why, I never!

"The RapeWaffen Division channel is a white supremacist channel that openly promotes rape and murder as part of the quest for race war."

[quote] Italian Men ate by far the most harrowing and specially voracious men in Europe. Their reputation precedes them. Italians have moved all over the world. How were the men perceived in those countries? Italy also has a big culture of harassment against women.

You don't believe this, R78?

SNL even did an entire skit about how sexually aggressive their men are, towards women.

So you need to shut the fuck up.

This is how Americans view Italians.

R80 Nice try.

The most dangerous places for women are black and brown:

India, Syria, Somalia, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Democratic Republic of Congo, Yemen, Nigeria...

Yeah, but keep trying to make it about "white supremacy". Don't let facts get in your way.

[quote]SNL even did an entire skit about how sexually aggressive their men are, towards women.

LOL.

(you can't make this shit up)

R5, Italy has ten million political parties and a new government every week.

R81 Idiot I have family in Italy,have visited there multiple times and know the situation there! You don't know what the fuck you are talking about. I've been to the Greek Islands during vacation season and once again that Italian male style is extremely aggressive towards women. Not in a comical way but in a creepy way. Add to that the chauvinism of the men there is too much. You have no idea what women are up against there compared to other countrues. Then you have the mother love on top of that. Where the mother spoils the male child so much no woman could compete or compare with that.

[quote] Italian Men ate by far the most harrowing and specially voracious men in Europe. Their reputation precedes them.

Oh, dear. And their big dicks precede them.

R85 is a hysterical dyke.

R85 doesn’t even have a passport. They haven’t been anywhere outside of their mother’s basement.

[Quote]Italian Men ate by far the most harrowing and specially voracious men in Europe.

Oh, hon, don't go to the Balkans.

Awwww, looks like the European right-wing Fascist NAZI is butt hurt that the truth is being told about Europeans.

Tought shit, cunt!

Why don't you despicable pigs go and start another World War? You did so well with the first two.

Fucking animals.

And you have the nerve to criticize others.

Rape has been part of the human condition since we became sentient. And looking at the animal kingdom, it's ubiquitous there, but sex is dangerous for all participants, as the females of many species eat their mates after the deed! It has been used in ALL cultures as a tool of war and conquest, it has been a way of establishing male dominance over women who were getting too uppity, it has been a way of propagating future workers (masters impregnating slaves), and at getting at women who were unavailable due to higher social or economic castes. It is UNIVERSAL in all cultures within marriage - when wives would not willingly have sex, men would and will rape their wives. All this talk about what is natural to x, y, or z culture is ridiculous. In the 20th century, particularly the late 20th century, women have been more vocal about it, and in lots of countries have worked on codifying laws and also getting law enforcement to take it seriously. Before that, it was more a case of families doing their best to defend or protect the women of their families. That is still the case in most of the "brown and black" nations mentioned above. Rape is still deplored, but it is not considered so much a matter of laws and police as that a family that did not do its job of protecting its own women In most cultures in most ages in most parts of the parts of the world, men have rarely suffered full repercussions for it. In many cultures, including our own, women have been blamed for it - and not just in the past. ("She dressed too provocatively, that's why it happened, who could blame him".).

Before we get too high and mighty about "white people" not doing it, let's just be clear. The reason that EVERY black person in the US whose family dates to before the civil war has some percentage of white blood, is because there was white upon black rape in virtually every slave-holding situation. The reason that in all of central and south America, all the people are a mix of Spanish or Portuguese and natives, is white upon native rape.

It's a sign of weak intellectual argument to say that OTHER people are doing it - that our own people don't do it. The reality is that rape is still ubiquitous and not something done only by non-natives of the country.

52% of rapes in Rome are committed by immigrants. 59% of rapes in Milan are committed by immigrants.

The great majority are Africans. These are the facts. No amount of deflection can erase them.

[quote]Italy has ten million political parties and a new government every week.

Ok. And tell us what that actually means to the lives of Italians. To the social order. Explain it to us.

Meanwhile in the US in the last 30 years the gap between rich and poor has become obscene, still no effective gun laws, still no universal health care, shithole crime-ridden cities only nice if you're rich, absurd levels of student debt that exist no where else in the world. And on and on.

But tell us how Italy's government has so woefully failed its people.

[quote]by an asylum seeker from Guinea

You’d think this pertinent info would have made the headline.

[quote]The reason that EVERY black person in the US whose family dates to before the civil war has some percentage of white blood, is because there was white upon black rape in virtually every slave-holding situation.

Oh when will the 1700s stop being so racist and violent!

R91, you are far too smart for the right-wing Fascist Nazis posting on this thread.

Your reasoning and logic is perfect, but don't expect this brain dead animals to be able to comprehend what you're saying.

r92, if you are so sure of your statistics, publish the SOURCE or link it. An article quoting the interior minister is NOT a source. If there are statistics compiled by the government, they should be in an official publication put out by the government. Show us THAT. If you cannot link to that, then forgive us, but we're going to take your "facts" with a huge grain of salt.

[quote] But tell us how Italy's government has so woefully failed its people.

Remember when Italy couldn't even bury its Covid dead, and people were left with the rotting corpses of family members stuck in their homes, because their government couldn't even pick up the bodies?

Who is saying it's only one group doing it? The point of this thread is that European countries are DE-EMPHASIZING the fact that immigrants from Africa and the Middle East are committing a disproportionate number of these rapes due to the fact that they come from very misogynistic countries and religions. They are protecting black and brown immigrant men at the cost of native women. That's the problem and it's a huge one.

Women, again, get the shit end of the stick. As with the trans lunacy here in the US, if it takes the right wing to show it for what it is, so be it. In this situation, the facts are the facts and the progressives in both the US and Europe have chosen to stop being the party based in reality, facts, and truth. When you start denying the actual numbers, you lose.

[quote]An article quoting the interior minister is NOT a source.

The interior minister of Italy is a woman, Luciana Lamorgese. Of the left under the government of Conte and Draghi.

But yeah, I'm sure she's lying.

[Quote]if you are so sure of your statistics, publish the SOURCE

Who do you think you're kidding? Non puoi parlare una fottuta lingua tranne l'inglese perché sei un americano insipido.

[quote] the facts are the facts and the progressives in both the US and Europe have chosen to stop being the party based in reality, facts, and truth. When you start denying the actual numbers, you lose

Funny how you mention "facts" repeatedly, yet you have presented even one FACT to support your argument.

You're a right-wing lying pig. Just like all the others.

All you spew is hate and rhetoric, designed to divide people and turn them against each other.

You're a charlatan. Just like all the other right-wing fascist NAZIS.

I don’t care. I never liked them, so…

Someone needs to blow up this Meloni bitch's car, a la "The Godfather."

Same for that French Nazi, Marie Le Pen.

I’m sick of both the hypocritical right wing and the hypocritical left wing. Both are highly indifferent towards violence unless they can use it to support their agenda,

The right squawks when immigrants in Europe commit crimes (which the left downplay or seek to hide). The left squawks when racist or right wing extremist crimes are committed (which the right downplays).

Both groups are highly tolerant of violence committed by their own kind.

[quote]Both groups are highly tolerant of violence committed by their own kind.

The Fratelli d'Italia are tolerant of "violence committed by their own kind"?

What? You know nothing about them.

[quote]Someone needs to blow up this Meloni bitch's car

Spoken like a true American "progressive".

We have these same problems with immigrants from Africa in Spain. Spain, Italy and Greece are taking the biggest blows from this invasion for obvious reasons. I bloody loathe it. Almost 1M illegal immigrants in Spain.

[quote] We have these same problems with immigrants from Africa in Spain. Spain, Italy and Greece are taking the biggest blows from this invasion for obvious reasons.

Yeah, the same reasons that invaders from Africa - you know, the MOORS - invaded Spain, over 500 years ago.

Are you people brain dead?

This has been going on for centuries. It's not new.

Yet you act like it's a recent phenomenon.

Idiots.

R109, were those groups welcomed with open arms? The idiot is looking back at you in the mirror.

Why are posters even defending immigrants from a regions where execution of homosexuals are legal and women are second-class citizens who have to cover themselves all the time? Is it a surprise that such backwards traditions ingrain misogyny and violence that leads to acts like rape? If people are humanists, they would help the countries the immigrants are coming from to change their culture instead of making a developed countries regress by taking them in.

R111, it's because gay men hate women more than they hate homophobes, especially the straight male homophobes that they lust after.