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Angelina Jolie v. Brad Pitt: The F.B.I. Lawsuit Revealed

[quote]Back in April, Politico published a short item pertaining to a judge who refused to seal a “Jane Doe” Freedom of Information Act lawsuit. It demanded that the F.B.I. turn over documents related to allegations that the plaintiff’s then-husband “physically and verbally assaulted” her and their children while they were traveling on a private plane “several years ago.” The item speculated—based on the timeline, the details of the incident, and the powerful attorney involved—that this “Jane Doe” was Angelina Jolie, and that the “then-husband” was Brad Pitt. After all, Jolie made similar allegations about Pitt in 2016. Eventually, however, the F.B.I. decided not to press charges.

Having followed their bizarre post-divorce legal battle for some time, I can now confirm that Jolie is indeed the plaintiff in the F.B.I. suit. I can also reveal that the pseudonymous lawsuit is available publically for the first time. On Aug. 9, Jolie amended the complaint, which includes an interesting new detail. Before the F.B.I. announced that Pitt would not be charged with assault on an airplane, the agent investigating the Sept. 2016 incident prepared a statement of probable cause and presented it to the chief of the Criminal Division of the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Los Angeles. (In the amended complaint, Jolie says she learned this from the F.B.I.’s FOIA response last year.)

Was the F.B.I. preparing for the possibility of charging Pitt with a crime? Here’s what I can say after looking into the F.B.I.’s investigation. Jolie told the special agent that Pitt was drinking and had taken her to the back of the plane, according to the agent’s notes at the time. He allegedly grabbed her shoulders and shook her and yelled things like, “You’re fucking up this family.” Later, during this same flight, another physical altercation allegedly took place, and Jolie said she sustained injuries; she gave the agent a photo of her elbow in an attempt to corroborate this. At another point, Jolie says Pitt poured beer on her. (Pitt’s camp has denied any wrongdoing.)

After preparing a statement of probable cause, the F.B.I. agent met with the assistant U.S. attorney. They subsequently agreed that criminal charges would not be pursued, according to the case file. What was their reasoning? Jolie’s amended complaint cites the need for those unredacted records and corroborating evidence, which remain in the agency’s possession.

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by Anonymousreply 540September 7, 2022 12:14 AM

Brad Pitt is OVER.

by Anonymousreply 1August 16, 2022 1:11 AM

Hardly. She's nuts.

by Anonymousreply 2August 16, 2022 1:15 AM

R2, she has her bots with their coordinated Brad smear campaign on twitter and more people believe her than 6 yrs ago. This doesn’t look good for Pitt, FBI was about to arrest him but change their minds in the last min.

R.I.P Brad Pitt’s career..,

by Anonymousreply 3August 16, 2022 1:20 AM

Yikes! This does not sound good, at all!

Off topic, but somewhat relevant…

Pro-tip:

Rinsing your hair with beer after a good shampoo and conditioner, makes your hair set in the most divine manner.

Immediately set it with those old school hair roller the frauen used back in the 60s and 70s. Not the sponge ones. The plastic ones.

Sit under a hairdryer for half an hour, and then leave the hair rollers on for the rest of the day.

Before going out for the evening, sit under the hairdryer for another half hour.

Remove rollers and style accordingly.

The vavoom factor is awesome.

You can do this with Champagne, as well!

by Anonymousreply 4August 16, 2022 1:21 AM

"You're fucking up this family!" I'm laughing my ass off picturing crazed slobbering drunken Pitt screaming and shaking Angelina's bony ass in the back of a moving airplane while their 2 dozen kids wail in the background

by Anonymousreply 5August 16, 2022 1:21 AM

Brad Pitt isnt going anywhere....Jolie on the other hand isnt exactly burning up the cineplex

by Anonymousreply 6August 16, 2022 1:23 AM

So basically he shook her shoulders, yelled you “f*ck up our family “and poured beer over her?

by Anonymousreply 7August 16, 2022 1:25 AM

Marry in haste ,repent in leisure . Im betting Brad regrets meeting that skeletal whore every single day.

by Anonymousreply 8August 16, 2022 1:29 AM

Apparently that was enough to make Maddox start Kung fu fighting Brad in the middle of the flight

by Anonymousreply 9August 16, 2022 1:30 AM

Had their divorce ever been finalized?

by Anonymousreply 10August 16, 2022 1:33 AM

Who keep reposting this article? Third time now.

Pitt has refrained from putting her on blast all these years. She may regret her continuing campaign of lies and inuendo against him.

[quote] FBI was about to arrest him but change their minds in the last min

That is not what it says or means at all. But that is what she wants you to think. SMDH.

by Anonymousreply 11August 16, 2022 1:35 AM

Hollywood loves Brad, that's never changing. Angelina seems like a bitter cunt.

by Anonymousreply 12August 16, 2022 1:37 AM

She's weird.

by Anonymousreply 13August 16, 2022 1:39 AM

Angelina bots on sm want the public to believe Brad bribe the FBI and it is actually working.

by Anonymousreply 14August 16, 2022 1:39 AM

Why the fuck can’t these two just be done with each other?

How long ago did they break up? Like 7 years ago, right?

JFC, give it a rest already.

If she wants justice, she’s not going to get it now, if she wasn’t able to get it then.

That’s how the ball bounces.

When I reported a domestic issue happening in my home, where I had to call the police repeatedly, cops didn’t give one flying fuck about what I reported, or about the history of the perpetrator, which was one riddled with domestic violence issues.

That’s when I learned that 99% of cops just do not give a fuck about women or children who are exposed to abusers. There was no justice, no anything. Even one of the other people in the household, who I was attempting to protect, lied to the officers in one of my repeated attempts to get help, and said that I was lying.

I wasn’t lying. She’s just spent decades covering for someone who she believes she loves.

And the worst part is that abusers all have flying monkeys, who are used to discredit the truth teller.

I’m not saying I know what happened with these two, because I don’t, but what I am saying is that women are almost ALWAYS ignored, discredited, and crucified in one way or another, when they have finally had enough, and attempt to come forward with the truth.

It’s a sad situation for sure, but most people do not give a fuck about domestic violence, and MANY men AND women will 9/10, side with the guy/abuser.

That’s the truth. Almost no one gives a fuck about women or kids, and yes, this also includes cops.

by Anonymousreply 15August 16, 2022 1:40 AM

He's fine. Sounds like a drunk mess, but people hate Angelina enough to blame her for his drinking. I doubt his career is over because she bumped her elbow.

Sounds like a whole lot of nothing. Why are they still arguing about this shit? It's been years

by Anonymousreply 16August 16, 2022 1:40 AM

You lost me at the flying monkey part, R 15

by Anonymousreply 17August 16, 2022 1:43 AM

Why? Did you fly away, little monkey @ R17?

Come back!

I have a big banana for you!

by Anonymousreply 18August 16, 2022 1:45 AM

R16, Angelina is bitter because she wanted to move to England with the kids for her political career and Brad wont let her.

by Anonymousreply 19August 16, 2022 1:50 AM

They're both awful and they deserve one another.

by Anonymousreply 20August 16, 2022 1:50 AM

[quote]Marry in haste ,repent at leisure . Im betting Brad regrets meeting that skeletal whore every single day.

Of course he does!

by Anonymousreply 21August 16, 2022 1:51 AM

Brad’s PR are working overtime…

by Anonymousreply 22August 16, 2022 1:54 AM

They lived together for years, and were only married a short time. I doubt either of their behavior changed that much. He's living his best life producing Oscar winning movies, and she's living in the past.

by Anonymousreply 23August 16, 2022 1:55 AM

[Quote] Angelina is bitter because she wanted to move to England with the kids for her political career and Brad wont let her.

Now, there's something the average divorced mom can relate to. Most women's complaint is about getting their husbands to spend more than a weekend at a time with their kids and this bitch is trying to haul her kids off to the other side of the ocean.

by Anonymousreply 24August 16, 2022 1:58 AM

I bet the media headlines tomorrow will be something along the lines of the FBI was about to arrest Pitt.. Yikes does not look good for him either way.

by Anonymousreply 25August 16, 2022 2:00 AM

Has Brad been canceled yet?

by Anonymousreply 26August 16, 2022 2:04 AM

She is f ing cray cray cray cray

by Anonymousreply 27August 16, 2022 2:05 AM

This has to be pure revenge on her part: It's not about custody at this point. Maddox and Pax are adults, and Zahara will be in five months. Shiloh is 16 and the twins are 14: In just a few more years, they'll all be adults and they can move wherever they want and never see their father again if they want.

by Anonymousreply 28August 16, 2022 2:05 AM

R25 I doubt it. It's not even trending on twitter. You guys (and Angelina apparently) underestimate Brad's PR game.

by Anonymousreply 29August 16, 2022 2:08 AM

R26, we will see tomorrow when more news outlets get their hands on this .

by Anonymousreply 30August 16, 2022 2:09 AM

Never marry and procreate with a toxic narcissist, fellas. Jen Aniston might have been boring and barren, but she never would have pulled this shit.

by Anonymousreply 31August 16, 2022 2:22 AM

R29, it was just leaked a few hours ago…

by Anonymousreply 32August 16, 2022 2:25 AM

Nobody believes her because she is a liar who has been shown to be a liar. I take that back - her flying monkeys believe her.

Her court filings show her to be a liar. I would love to read the depositions of her before the trial. She supposedly fucked up good.

by Anonymousreply 33August 16, 2022 2:28 AM

Angelina on the plane - finally the raw footage.

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by Anonymousreply 34August 16, 2022 2:31 AM

She’s exhaustive and so unlikable.

by Anonymousreply 35August 16, 2022 2:31 AM

Why would the FBI be involved in this? Even if what she says is true, it's a domestic matter local cops usually deal with.

by Anonymousreply 36August 16, 2022 2:32 AM

R33, sadly her bots did a excellent job on their smear campaign because more people on social media/twitter believes her.

by Anonymousreply 37August 16, 2022 2:33 AM

Well, that doesn't sound so bad.

by Anonymousreply 38August 16, 2022 2:34 AM

R37, are you the person who continually acts like Jolie is somehow winning a PR campaign against Pitt? I see this here frequently.

People have a good grasp of both of these people and they know who is the crazy one lying not caring about their children and the one who is keeping his mouth shut not willing to expose his children to this utter crap. Sooner or later he's going to have to talk with the kids about the important of truth and integrity and just let it all out there.

by Anonymousreply 39August 16, 2022 2:36 AM

[quote]They're both awful and they deserve one another.

Not in equal measure. She's way more worse than him. Brad deserves so much better.

Obviously he was right for calling her out for fucking up the family. He couldn't take it any more and snapped.

I bet that was her plan all along. Driving him mad enough so that he would attack her physically so she could act the innocent little angelic victim brutalized by this abusive patriarchal husband and get full custody of all the children and move to London.

She's a conniving evil bitch who knows exactly what she's doing.

by Anonymousreply 40August 16, 2022 2:39 AM

Sounds like they had a bad fight while trapped on a plane together rather than a pattern of abuse in the manner of Shia LaBeouf. Sounds like they should not be together and they're not. Most married people have had bad fights at one point or another. This never needed to be brought to the attention of the public. She's tried her best to destroy him, and that's why she ends up looking worse than he does.

by Anonymousreply 41August 16, 2022 2:42 AM

Whew..dodged a bullet there..

by Anonymousreply 42August 16, 2022 2:45 AM

R40,

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by Anonymousreply 43August 16, 2022 2:46 AM

[quote] Why would the FBI be involved in this?

Maybe because it happened on an airplane.

by Anonymousreply 44August 16, 2022 2:49 AM

Hmmmmm …

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by Anonymousreply 45August 16, 2022 2:52 AM

Why did she file for divorce and not him? They looked miserable together for years before the plug was pulled. It sounds like he was on his last tether, so I’m surprised he wasn’t the initiator. I also can’t believe this is still going on all these years later. Like who cares anymore?

You can bet your ass Brad regrets ever getting involved with her. Think his marriage to Aniston was pretty much done before hooked up with Jolie, but he could’ve done way better.

by Anonymousreply 46August 16, 2022 2:52 AM

If they looked miserable for years, why get married? The marriage was 2 years.

by Anonymousreply 47August 16, 2022 2:55 AM

Statistically (married heteros), I think women are first to file for divorce.

Brad was probably kind of lethargic and just pushing down the problems with alcohol (too lethargic to file first).

by Anonymousreply 48August 16, 2022 2:56 AM

R47, a lot of people predicted when they married it was a last ditch attempt. Seems that was proven correct. There is red carpet footage where you could cut the tension between the two with a knife.

by Anonymousreply 49August 16, 2022 3:02 AM

She is such a vengeful, spiteful, bitter little junkie who seethes with jealousy over the fact that people like and believe Brad. She has shown everyone what a selfish and destructive person she is when she did everything within her power to alienate those children from their father. That takes a very selfish, toxic parent to sink that low.

by Anonymousreply 50August 16, 2022 3:02 AM

Old dried up scorned whore

by Anonymousreply 51August 16, 2022 3:03 AM

She makes GOOP look like June Cleaver

by Anonymousreply 52August 16, 2022 3:03 AM

I forget where I read it (not DL), but it was a reputable publication- that when Angelina bought the DeMille $25 million dollar mansion "so Brad could be close to the kids", she was having a cash crunch so Brad loaned her the money. And here we are, 6 years later.

by Anonymousreply 53August 16, 2022 3:31 AM

Is that the whole story? What happened to the allegation that he punched Maddox?

by Anonymousreply 54August 16, 2022 3:42 AM

^^^ Did not happen.

by Anonymousreply 55August 16, 2022 3:44 AM

So the big hidden "abuse" scandal is he once shook her by the shoulders and yelled at her? That's it? A drunken screaming match between 2 people that hate each other? Jfc, the way Angelina talks about this (and she DEFINITELY talks about it, all this coy hinting over the past few years of abuse and surviving abuse etc., makes it sound like he regularly used her as punching bag).

As many have said, it couldn't be more obvious who AJ is. She's someone who has used her own children as pawns, alienating them from their father with no thought to their wellbeing, an obvious vindictive psycho who will do or say anything to destroy BP. Is Brad some faultless angel? Hell no. He's a dumb asshole who fell for this nutjob and is going to spend the rest of his life paying for it. But of the 2 of them, one is clearly worse and it ain't brad.

by Anonymousreply 56August 16, 2022 7:05 AM

Brad is the winner in any case. People want to work with him, and that says a lot. Ang had her tits and womb ripped out. She's crazy.

by Anonymousreply 57August 16, 2022 7:39 AM

Brad's production company is a big damn deal too. He's not losing favor in Hollywood anytime soon for a woman nobody likes from an incident that was years ago. Everyone already knows they had an incident on the plane. But it wasn't repeated pattern of behavior even with Angelina it doesn't seem. And he has never had anything like that happen before or after with anyone else. All his exes who aren't Angelina seem to still like him quite a bit.

by Anonymousreply 58August 16, 2022 7:48 AM

Prince Harry should take note, that’s his future, FBI lawsuit and all.

by Anonymousreply 59August 16, 2022 8:49 AM

Maybe I come from a really bad family but that incident on the plane would barely register as a blip on the radar at my house back in the day. I thought she has seen real suffering in her travels and UN work, but she’s acting like she’s been sheltered in a 50’s sitcom her whole life. Forgive, forget, move on. Holding grudges is so much worse for everyone than this episode from years ago.

by Anonymousreply 60August 16, 2022 2:32 PM

She probably has early onset osteoporosis, so shaking her by her bones is a big deal.

by Anonymousreply 61August 16, 2022 3:56 PM

I remember when they got together. They were everywhere and so lovey-dovey. It was sickening. Now they hate each other's guts. lol

She reminds me of Amber Heard. Wonder if Ang recorded her fights with Brad too? They're both overrated in looks and talent.

by Anonymousreply 62August 16, 2022 4:15 PM

Angie would never. She wouldn't want to look bad and have a public record of any behavior that is questionable. Her whole image the last 20 years is very calculated. I'm sure she gave as good as she got in their blow outs.

by Anonymousreply 63August 16, 2022 4:28 PM

Amber Heard, Jada Pinkett Smith, and Angie all tipped their hat too much. MeToo was barely on its last legs before these three tried to exploit it to meet their ends.

Through Michelle Williams on the pile too.

by Anonymousreply 64August 16, 2022 4:29 PM

[quote]Brad Pitt is OVER.

But not quite as OVER as Angelina Jolie.

by Anonymousreply 65August 16, 2022 4:31 PM

Oh, Heroina and her bots keep trying to take Brad down but it's not working.

Sorry hon, he's STILL a star and is on top AGAIN with Bullet Train which is doing well at the box office. He won an Academy Award now too for actor as well as best picture.

Get over it.

by Anonymousreply 66August 16, 2022 4:32 PM

He should have thrown that nasty cunt out of the plane while he had the chance.

by Anonymousreply 67August 16, 2022 4:45 PM

Nice try, Angeloonie. Whether you think he is talented or not, Brad is one of the last A-list movie 'S'tars and a highly successful producer to boot. He is swimming in an ocean of cash. More importantly, he makes other people tons of cash. He is going no where. Angie is doing Maleficent sequels and is lucky to have even that. She was a 'camp event' even before she foolishly torpedoed her reputation.

And, for what? Probably because Brad called her out on her behavior. Probably because she could feel him slipping away so she decided she would 'win' by leaving him first. Funny thing is, he probably would have stayed with her for appearances (and for $$$ reasons, let's be real). She sought revenge and ended up digging her own grave.

by Anonymousreply 68August 16, 2022 4:49 PM

[quote]Why the fuck can’t these two just be done with each other?

He's been done with her for a while, I believe. He has kept mostly quiet and didn't counter-attack until the winery lawsuit recently. Even when Jolie went after the judge in their custody case, all Pitt's attorneys did was respond to her attorney's filings, he didn't file a countersuit or anything.

There's just a pattern with Jolie that I think rubs most people the wrong way. She wanted Brad arrested but not by the police, no, by the FBI. They said no. She demanded a second investigation. They said no again. Now she's suing them years later because she didn't get that arrest. She demanded full custody and got scolded by the judge for alienating their kids from their father. She then went after the judge and got the entire case that they'd spent years negotiating and working on thrown out, because she was mad that she couldn't alienate her kids from their dad. Well, I guess she can now, no one is going to stop her.

She goes to domestic abuse conferences and makes it sound like she was regularly beaten and traumatized, when it appears she was shaken and possibly got her elbow bonked.

She sells her part of the winery in a sketchy deal to Russian oligarchs and had Brad buy her the Cecil B. DeMille mansion, yet has bots on Twitter say Brad is a deadbeat dad and doesn't even know the names of "his brown kids."

It's just exhausting. She seems like she's more mad that she isn't getting her way than she is about anything else.

by Anonymousreply 69August 16, 2022 4:51 PM

I don't have too much sympathy for Brad, he CHOSE to marry and have kids with this nutty drug ridden cunt, but he deserves credit for not mudslinging her in the press at all! Seriously, he doesn't acknowledge her in any of his recent interviews, but she brings him up and alludes to him being an "evil abuser" all the time.

by Anonymousreply 70August 16, 2022 4:56 PM

All these cunts accusing men of assault. My ex-wife tried to pull that on me when I finally came out and told her I was gay. It scared the living shit out of me because I had never done any such thing.

by Anonymousreply 71August 16, 2022 4:59 PM

Yes, he doesn't mudsling directly nor does he use any indirect sources to tarnish her reputation. There are never any leaks. He could bury her. Although, truth be told, he would look terrible, too (e.g., why did you have a bunch a kids with a personality-disordered druggie?). No doubt he would want her to stay employable, too, at least until the kids are 18.

by Anonymousreply 72August 16, 2022 5:02 PM

Brad needs to write a autobiography. I had always somewhat followed him, but the Jolie years were crazy. He became a far cry from the aww shucks Midwestern persona he had despite being a huge movie star. They were constantly photographed, always traveling with the child army, it was like a circus. It seemed the opposite of what he wanted. My theory why he stayed is that he knew she would make child custody difficult and he would wait it out until the kids were older. One thing I will say is regardless of AJ, his marriage to JA wouldn’t have lasted. You could tell they were over by the time Friends ended.

by Anonymousreply 73August 16, 2022 5:19 PM

She says here that she was sexual starting from kindergarten (stripping off all her clothes & kissing boys).

At 14, she and her boyfriend were into knife play b/c sex wasn't enough. She stabbed him first.

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by Anonymousreply 74August 16, 2022 5:37 PM

Did he have an affair with Marion Cotillard? Thoughts please.

by Anonymousreply 75August 16, 2022 5:49 PM

I honestly doubt he had an affair. He just seemed unhappy and drinking the pain away. The relationship had issues for awhile. The marriage was some last ditch issue to save the relationship for the kids. A dumb choice.

It's been too long, but I remember reading a few rumors about her sleeping around with other people.

by Anonymousreply 76August 16, 2022 5:55 PM

R75, who knows. That’s around the time real inside gossip was drying up.

by Anonymousreply 77August 16, 2022 6:02 PM

That bag of bones is only 47? I figured she was Brad's age. Girl looking rough.

by Anonymousreply 78August 16, 2022 6:02 PM

She is exhausting.

by Anonymousreply 79August 16, 2022 6:02 PM

I kinda think he did have an affair with Cotillard. That's how he and AJ got together (working on a movie together). I think this is what drove AJ nuts, more than anything. I think she was OK with 3-somes if she got to pick the 3rd party (female), but she wasn't happy when / if Brad did something on his own.

by Anonymousreply 80August 16, 2022 6:08 PM

Brad is freaking 12 yrs older than her??!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 81August 16, 2022 6:13 PM

The first rumors of Brad straying were with Lupita Nyong'o, there was even a photo of Brad and Lupita talking at an event, with Angelina looking peeved. Angie then put out stories about how it was just a cute crush, and even held a birthday party for Lupita, making sure to look happy the whole time.

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by Anonymousreply 82August 16, 2022 6:14 PM

R82, that story sounds so fake it’s laughable.

I think cheating might have happened on both sides, but on the down low with non famous people.

by Anonymousreply 83August 16, 2022 6:42 PM

Brad needs to see what Ewan McGregor did. His kids cut him off until he knocked up Mary Elizabeth Winstead, then they immediately fell back in line.

Brad needs toget with someone new and father another child. Then the kids will come back knowing that there's a new heir in town.

by Anonymousreply 84August 16, 2022 7:06 PM

From tmz

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by Anonymousreply 85August 16, 2022 7:07 PM

There were better articles at the time r83, but I went looking on old DL threads and they're all 404 now, sorry. Celebitchy sucks out loud.

by Anonymousreply 86August 16, 2022 7:08 PM

Can't arrest a global cabal of shit posters!

by Anonymousreply 87August 16, 2022 7:10 PM

R84 Probably. Angie is apparently pretty broke for some reason.

It's a shame since Maddox and Brad used to be close for a time. I don't think there's any hope for Maddox and Pax to fall in line but the bio kids and Zahara probably.

by Anonymousreply 88August 16, 2022 7:10 PM

[quote]Our Brad sources say AJ's had the info for years, and believe she's only filed the FOIA lawsuit to get the press talking about the allegations against Brad again.

[quote]We've obtained documents from the FBI investigation which clearly state that FBI agents met with reps from the U.S. Attorney's Office and state, "It was agreed by all parties that criminal charges in this case would not be pursued due to several factors."

by Anonymousreply 89August 16, 2022 7:10 PM

I wonder how much AJ paid those bots on twitter because all they is smear Brad’s name 24/7 they repeat strong words over and over like Trump use to do with his rallies but with hashtags like #deadbeat #abuser #p3do and Brad’s name attach to it and alll of them have same narrative, it’s a very cleaver brainwash technique that even the blue marks have fell for.

by Anonymousreply 90August 16, 2022 7:27 PM

She’s batshit crazy

by Anonymousreply 91August 16, 2022 7:28 PM

I really can’t stand her now. She’s gross with this ridiculous vendetta. [italic]She’s[/italic] the abusive one.

by Anonymousreply 92August 16, 2022 7:34 PM

I thought Hollywood gave Pitt the Oscar because he was so liked til I saw OUATIH and thought he was amazing, definitely deserving.

Angelina let her career fizzle out even though she's talented too.

by Anonymousreply 93August 16, 2022 8:57 PM

𝑰 𝒘𝒊𝒏, 𝑰 𝒘𝒊𝒏 !

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by Anonymousreply 94August 17, 2022 1:02 AM

I'd say it's the opposite, R22.

What R36 said. Anyone who thinks the FBI is ivolved in this is really an idiot.

by Anonymousreply 95August 17, 2022 1:08 AM

If Angelina is truly borderline, as some allege, I give Brad a pass on losing his shit and shaking her.

by Anonymousreply 96August 17, 2022 1:12 AM

Can't we just drone him?

- Angelina

by Anonymousreply 97August 17, 2022 1:17 AM

I just want to write something about all of this:

I haven’t gone through the rest of this thread. I attempted to go through all the comments on CB, but i couldn’t, for the exact reason why I’m not prepared or ready, to read the rest of the comments on this thread:

It’s just way too painful, & genuinely triggering.

I’m not attempting to live in victimhood. Nor do I speak for other victims of DV, as all I can genuinely do, is speak for myself, but there’s something I want you guys and gals to know…

DV changes one’s outlook on life, in the most foundational and fundamentally of ways.

Where there was once trust, now it is replaced by skepticism, & doubt.

Where there was once joy, is replaced with an inability to truly even trust that one is feeling joy.

Where there was once the hope of love, is now replaced with shades of self recriminations, self loathing, and profound insecurity.

Where there was once hope, is replaced with sarcasm and unresolved anger because society dismissed you and showed you that your version of events that were recanted truthfully, did not matter in the final analysis.

You end up looking at people as potential batterers or enemies.

You end up beating yourself up DAILY, and sometimes even hourly, because you cannot believe you are intelligent and capable enough to do or achieve almost anything, but you didn’t have the wherewithal to identify a domestic batterer, because you were so fucking STUPID, that you actually fell for the bullshit that someone came into your and your family’s life, promising to be good to your mom, to you, and to your family.

When you eventually learn the truth about a batterer, it is life changing and DEVASTATING. FUCK ANY ONE HERE WHO WANTS TO CHALLENGE THIS OR CLAIM DIFFERENTLY.

And that’s the worst part, you guys. The worst part is that people who physically, psychologically, emotionally and mentally abuse others, will NEVER, EVER admit that they did. Even when their ex wives tell you they abused them, even when their children from previous marriages tell you that they went through pure HELL as a result of having an abuser as their father, while explaining that it took them 20 plus years of therapy to get over the damage and abuser wrought, I can almost guarantee you, that a true abuser, will NEVER come clean.

The effects of having a person like this in your life is a total game changer. If you haven’t gone through this, just thank your lucky stars.

Abusers will fuck your world up hardcore.

The moment you notice a red flag, PLEASE, PLEASE, GTFO IMMEDIATELY. There is NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING, worth going through the devastation that domestic violence abusers bring into your life, or the lives of those you love.

They don’t change. They NEVER get help, and they NEVER admit to what they did, nor do they ever feel remorse, because all they do is live in SHAME, and they want YOU to live in shame as well, because this is how they believe they can control you and the shame fuels them with a FALSE sense of power.

I wish this on no one.

I can honestly state that I’m attempting to heal from this, but I’m not sure that I can, nor am I sure that I will ever trust again.

This person ducked over my ENTIRE family. It was really bad, and we all fell for his lies and bullshit, and my mom enabled him and still does.

I’ve been really vulnerable in this post, and genuine. I have nothing more to say.

by Anonymousreply 98August 17, 2022 5:18 AM

tl;dnr

by Anonymousreply 99August 17, 2022 5:26 AM

Honestly, I would probably break up with someone who poured beer on me while I tried to sleep. Assuming he did “pour” it and he didn’t stumble spill some on her.

But to call for Pitt’s arrest for shouting at her, emphatically banging on the ceiling and her whacking elbow as she tried to hold him back as he went to yell at their kids is a stretch. It’s a horrible relationship, they should not have married, but Jolie needs to admit what she wants to do is punish Pitt into perpetuity. It’s gotten beyond her looking after the health of the kids and is all about her ago at this point.

by Anonymousreply 100August 17, 2022 5:31 AM

Holy shit, r98. You sound like a nightmare.

by Anonymousreply 101August 17, 2022 5:35 AM

[quote]When you eventually learn the truth about a batterer, it is life changing and DEVASTATING. FUCK ANY ONE HERE WHO WANTS TO CHALLENGE THIS OR CLAIM DIFFERENTLY.

I fully believe it IS life changing and devastating. And I haven't seen anyone here say otherwise, for what it's worth. But your experience with being abused (because some people ARE abusers) doesn't mean that no one has ever lied about abuse, or that everyone accused or suspected of abuse is guilty of it.

"Abuse is terrible and marks its victims for life"

is not the same statement as

"all accusations of abuse are true"

And before you come for me, I was physically abused to the extent of being hospitalized multiple times as a kid, by my own parent. We were a well thought of family and my parents knew exactly how to cover everything up and portray me as the troubled brat. Instead of leading me to believe any and all accusations, what my experience has done is give me a healthy dose of reality regarding how good some people are at hiding everything about themselves and who they are from the outside world.

by Anonymousreply 102August 17, 2022 5:38 AM

R102 is a troubled brat.

by Anonymousreply 103August 17, 2022 5:39 AM

Odd that Pitt hasn't been publicly linked to anyone long term after the Jolie split. He always struck me as one of those serial monogamist straight dudes.

by Anonymousreply 104August 17, 2022 5:41 AM

R104, he learned his lesson.

by Anonymousreply 105August 17, 2022 5:42 AM

More like he knows any long term partner would be raked over the coals by Jolie and the tabloids.

by Anonymousreply 106August 17, 2022 5:49 AM

See what I mean, guys?

Even when you attempt to explain what happened and how you’re attempting to heal from it, people come for you, because either they, themselves, are abusers, and/or, are in deep denial about the abuse they , themselves suffered, believing that they’re all healed up now, so this makes it OK for them to challenge your own experiences and healing process.

This is why it’s so fucking difficult to heal.

No one will just listen to you, and take your word as face value.

Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt have ZERO to do with my story. I qualified this. Yet because it’s a thread about Jolie vs. Pitt, I’m challenged by not only STANS & PR lackeys, but I’m also challenged by the general status quo.

It’s heartbreaking, because this attitude is pervading therapy, as well as other modalities which claim to be there to help real victims.

Shit, even other victims turn against you.

It’s a trip. But I do get it.

For decades, I myself, was in deep denial about my mom and her abuse towards me. This all eventually lead to her finding an abuser who was even more abusive than she is, and we were all pulled into it, due to our denial about the shit that happened in our own family, before this asshole targeted us.

If these things are not faced head on, they become generational problems.

You MUST get honest about your REALLY SHITTY childhood, or you will not get well.

In a way, I’m luckier than every single person in my family, because at least, I’m willing to call it for what it truly is, and why it happened, rather than sticking my head in the sand and gaslighting myself into oblivion.

Yeah. It hurts like crazy, but I’m not going down without a fucking fight, either.

I’m an AMAZING person, and I’ve ALWAYS deserved better, and I STILL do.

by Anonymousreply 107August 17, 2022 5:53 AM

There are tabloid reports that Brad is afraid for his life because stoli’s 3 former business partners all died in mysterious circumstances.

by Anonymousreply 108August 17, 2022 5:54 AM

This thread has officially gone wackadoo. WTF?

by Anonymousreply 109August 17, 2022 5:55 AM

I want to beat the shit out of r107.

by Anonymousreply 110August 17, 2022 5:57 AM

R107 = Ezra Miller or Jeannette McGillicuddy 2whatever the fuck

by Anonymousreply 111August 17, 2022 5:59 AM

Meanwhile I just saw pictures of Jennifer Aniston vacationing with friends like Jason Bateman and looking great in a bikini

by Anonymousreply 112August 17, 2022 6:00 AM

Brad was raised in the midwest and Angie was raised by a hippy dippy Hollywood set so their style of parenting probably was much different. Not that it makes what Pitt did right, but I can see Jolie letting those kids run wild and Pitt trying to do something about it and her turning them against him and making him out to be the mean one.

by Anonymousreply 113August 17, 2022 6:04 AM

You know she’s sick to death of those ugly kids

by Anonymousreply 114August 17, 2022 6:04 AM

R110, sadly, you’ve spent your entire life beating the shit out of yourself.

There’s a way out… it’s called HONESTY.

by Anonymousreply 115August 17, 2022 6:08 AM

Not a single person has questioned your personal experience, R107 (and your posts implying they have are edging close to what some would call gaslighting). People are disagreeing with your opinion about a couple of famous people none of us know, and whose situation and relationship has nothing to do with your experiences. You are dishonest to characterize this disagreement as anything other than what it is.

I'm 50/50 on you being a troll at this point, there's a strong whiff of the 'Christian mom in the Tim Tebow threads' about you.

by Anonymousreply 116August 17, 2022 6:09 AM

You swayed me r116. It’s a troll.

by Anonymousreply 117August 17, 2022 6:11 AM

BPD from hell.

by Anonymousreply 118August 17, 2022 6:12 AM

Carry on with your faggotry, r107.

by Anonymousreply 119August 17, 2022 6:13 AM

She would be happy to drag those kids all over the world as long as she can. It must be exhausting to live that way. Enjoy your fucking $25 million mansion, cunt.

by Anonymousreply 120August 17, 2022 6:26 AM

My favorite tabloid story about them is that Angelina and Brad got in to a huge fight because he kept love letters he wrote to Jill Schoelen. Around the same time that story came out, I found some weird online post on a web forum claiming to be one of Brad Pitt's exes, in which the poster stated that Angelina Jolie was using psychological warfare to try and destroy the poster's life, and I like to think the poster was Jill Schoelen.

by Anonymousreply 121August 17, 2022 6:29 AM

Well, AJ is totally spoiled, as in spoiled milk. She is still beautiful and famous and wealthy and stylish, but Hollywood is sexist and ageist so she's over. Brad is kind, but over-valued because of his male, blond-boy good looks. Life is unfair. Neither one deserved the wealth or fame, but they both played the game, which was always weighed in Brad's favor. Angie should know. That's why she wanted him and went after him in the first place, though he was already married.

by Anonymousreply 122August 17, 2022 6:51 AM

I never thought she was beautiful.

by Anonymousreply 123August 17, 2022 6:55 AM

In the detailed Rolling Stone report it looks like she was also violent towards him on the plane.

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by Anonymousreply 124August 17, 2022 8:35 AM

Her pussy stinks. What's left.

by Anonymousreply 125August 17, 2022 8:44 AM

[quote]She's someone who has used her own children as pawns, alienating them from their father with no thought to their wellbeing, an obvious vindictive psycho who will do or say anything to destroy BP.

I wonder if a lot of the motivation for these continued leaks about Pitt is this: the kids are older, going to school, leaving home and are no longer under her thumb. Pitt would pay for them to go wherever they want to school, set them up, etc. And because she's losing control of the narrative (yeah, he was kind of a crazy drunk, but he's straightened up & now we have a good time together), she has to remind everyone "WHAT BRAD DID TO MOMMY!!"

by Anonymousreply 126August 17, 2022 8:45 AM

Wait …in the 2016 report it was always claimed Brad hit Maddox but in these recent report Maddox told him off and he was going in his direction but Angelina stop him???

by Anonymousreply 127August 17, 2022 8:56 AM

[quote]Odd that Pitt hasn't been publicly linked to anyone long term after the Jolie split.

He was linked briefly to someone in the tabs, and it was obviously untrue, but what happened is that the Angelina PR machine turned it into "look at desperate sad lying Brad Pitt, claiming he's hooked up with this innocent woman who already has a fiance, because he's so desperate for attention and good PR" and a lot of the online crazies believed it.

by Anonymousreply 128August 17, 2022 9:53 AM

Rolling stone article:

“The fact that both parties had apparent injuries likely complicated the charging decision for investigators.“

by Anonymousreply 129August 17, 2022 10:35 AM

She had a scraped elbow, he had a scratch. He shook her, she had him in a choke hold. Maddox called him a prick and he yelled back at the kid. The FBI isn't going to arrest either one of them in a situation like that.

by Anonymousreply 130August 17, 2022 10:45 AM

Brad should have pulled a johnny Depp and said something about his injury.

by Anonymousreply 131August 17, 2022 11:00 AM

Weird. This is a pro-Pitt source, but it mentions a claim that he also shoved her. That hadn't come up anywhere else.

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by Anonymousreply 132August 17, 2022 11:01 AM

“A source close to Pitt previously told this reporter that the actor engaged in a verbal argument with his oldest son Maddox during the jet ride. “He certainly could have behaved better, but there was no physical abuse (of the teen),” the source said.“

So he really did tell the truth.

by Anonymousreply 133August 17, 2022 11:04 AM

[quote]lawyers for Jolie sent process servers to the SAG Awards in February, hoping to catch Pitt off-guard with a subpoena for Miraval matters at the event. (He did not attend.) This was another example of Jolie trying to create a public scene to exacerbate the situation, according to sources in the know.

She did what now

by Anonymousreply 134August 17, 2022 11:05 AM

Beautiful white trash. Shoving eat other on a private plane from Nice! Hilarious!

Angelina should have married an old European billionaire so she could age gracefully, swanning about in Hermes scarves and hide her claws in leather gloves. LA is merciless to women.

by Anonymousreply 135August 17, 2022 11:08 AM

[quote]Pitt’s legal team believed that Jolie’s attorneys attempted to have their court-approved child psychologist sanctioned by the California Attorney General’s office based on her perception that the doctor had sided with Pitt, concluding that Pitt should have 50/50 custody of the kids.

[quote]Psychologist Stan Katz, who spoke to the Jolie-Pitt minor children for the custody case, is currently under a non-criminal investigation by California Attorney General’s office, per a filing submitted to the Superior Court of California and seen by Page Six.

She's gone after the psychologist, too?

So she demanded the FBI investigate instead of the police, demanded a second investigation, sued the FBI in 2016 for the report, is suing the FBI a second time now, went after the judge in the custody hearing, AND has gone after the psychologist used in the custody hearing.

Unbelievable. Add in the fact that she injured Brad on the plane, too, and the deal she made with the Russian oligarch and I am unable to understand how anyone would be on her side at this point.

by Anonymousreply 136August 17, 2022 11:08 AM

R136, and she gets away with it…

by Anonymousreply 137August 17, 2022 11:09 AM

Wow so he never hit Maddox? After 6 years of Jolie stans saying he beat his brown kid and her implying he did as well? Maddox is also old enough to say he didn't get smacked around too.

Sounds like two assholes got into a fight and the relationship was was dead already. Just admit you were both wrong and this never had to actually be such a big deal. Share custody with him and leave him alone and he'd probably pay you pretty well. He seems more than willing to buy her anything she wants for the kids even while she's being psychopath. She's an idiot.

by Anonymousreply 138August 17, 2022 11:24 AM

It sounds like she thought he was going after Maddox to hit him, which is when she put him in a choke hold to stop him, but Maddox never got hit and we don't even know if that's why Brad was heading for him. And yes, she let people believe Brad hit Maddox.

I keep thinking about her disingenuous comments at the VAWA hearings, the “I can think only of everyone who’s been made to feel powerless by their abusers [and] by a system that fails to protect them" types of comments, which in light of all the complaints and lawsuits she's filed, feels more like she was trying to bolster her own legal claims than anything else. Like she was using VAWA for her own PR and her own legal benefit.

Oh, and this from 2021, where she was lobbying for FBI reform on the issue. Again, seems like a personal vendetta rather than an issue where she cares about other women. How many women in the U.S. who are stuck in a domestic violence situation need "FBI reform"?

[quote]“In her meetings she will talk about the importance of VAWA reauthorization, FBI reforms, judicial training and health equity including non-biased forensic evidence collections,” Jolie’s rep said.

by Anonymousreply 139August 17, 2022 11:32 AM

Yes, R138, everyone has fights with their partner or family from time to time. Imagine the details being leaked to the world.

And how entitled is she thinking this was so fucking important that it was a case for the FBI?

She had/bought all those kids because she doesn't have any friends. Everything about her is a PR stunt. She's fake as fuck.

by Anonymousreply 140August 17, 2022 11:38 AM

It’s because she lives vicariously through traumatised people - orphans, refugees, sexual violence victims - and the further away the better so she can swoop in like Lady Bountiful, roll around in the mud, shed some tears, take notes in her Moleskine and fly out.

How has she advocated for people in her hometown LA? For the homeless, for undocumented workers, for people in shelters, living with HIV/AIDS, for women? That would take accountability through community action and would leave herself open to criticism. And accountability and real change can be easily avoided when your good works revolves around meetings with politicians and writing cheques and visits with specially selected brown people.

by Anonymousreply 141August 17, 2022 11:50 AM

I was coming here to mention that weird "FBI reform" thing myself but I see it's already been mentioned. I remembered it because it appeared as a quote in several articles, but it just seemed so odd at the time. It was like she was listing all the things she cared about with regards to DV and then inserted "FBI reform" in the middle of it for no reason. Now it makes sense.

What always bothered me about the judge being dismissed from the case is that the issue of him having mitigated a case with Brad's business partners came up at the beginning of the custody negotiations and was ruled as not being an issue. Then, when Jolie lost, she suddenly made it an issue again, finding a judge who would agree with her and tossing it out, guaranteeing several more years of litigation. If she cared about the kids she wouldn't be dragging this shit out for years and years.

by Anonymousreply 142August 17, 2022 11:56 AM

Articles about her kids being her careraker:

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by Anonymousreply 143August 17, 2022 11:59 AM

She will on about this until one of them is dead, just liked her mother did to her father.

by Anonymousreply 144August 17, 2022 12:00 PM

More articles of the kids helping her “cope”

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by Anonymousreply 145August 17, 2022 12:00 PM

[quote]Jolie purportedly told FBI officials that Pitt yelled at her, “grabbed her by her head,” shook her, “pushed her into the bathroom wall” and repeatedly punched the ceiling of the plane during an initial outburst about 90 minutes into the private jet flight...Jolie “jumped up” and grabbed Pitt round his neck with her arms, “like in a choke hold”...Pitt purportedly threw himself back, pushing Jolie into the seats behind them, causing injury to her back and elbow, she told investigators.

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by Anonymousreply 146August 17, 2022 12:20 PM

So he never hit or even touched Maddox? Or he was lunging at him because he was going to?

I don’t understand that part.

Did he attempt to hit the boy or not? Why did she infer he did, and why not just say the truth from the beginning?

Pouring beer on her and shoving her against a wall was already enough grounds to break up with him or anyone who pours beer on you. Hitting Maddox or inferring he hit Maddox, didn’t have to become part of the narrative.

It sounds like these two hated each other for years, already. I don’t understand why people in horrible family dynamics stick it out, other than we just get used to it, and have a difficult time imagining we can have something different and eventually feel better without a toxic dynamic.

But I do disagree with allowing people to believe he hit his son.

Whatever. I’m going to stay away from these threads as they do absolutely nothing but trigger me and harm my mental health.

Best of luck to all these people, especially the children.

by Anonymousreply 147August 17, 2022 12:34 PM

Grabbing someone and shaking them is abuse.

I hope Angelina wins. Brad is bad news. Face it, everyone. We never knew Brad Pitt. His movies and his public persona are not HIM.

Get used to the idea now, before all hell breaks loose. It'll be more disappointing if you wait till then.

by Anonymousreply 148August 17, 2022 12:35 PM

Wins what exactly?

Brad sounds awful in the situation, but it didn't seem like something he had done before and hasn't done after. It was an awful fight and totally grounds for divorce, but also something they all should have moved past years ago and they should have co-parented together. Angelina wants those kids to be traumatized by that incident forever.

by Anonymousreply 149August 17, 2022 12:43 PM

[quote]Grabbing someone and shaking them is abuse.

How do you feel about putting someone in a choke hold and scratching them up?

by Anonymousreply 150August 17, 2022 12:44 PM

Love how dumbass Angelina thinks the FBI walk the beat

by Anonymousreply 151August 17, 2022 12:51 PM

“When asked about a “scratch” on Pitt, she replied that it could have been from her, the paperwork states.“

by Anonymousreply 152August 17, 2022 12:57 PM

Still cannot believe that Pussy was that hot. OK. I'm a gay man.so maybe I can't understand.

Was it just the confluence of factors?? How could Brad not have known she not only lived in Cray-Cray town, but was towing a shit show behind her at all times?

by Anonymousreply 153August 17, 2022 1:06 PM

R149, if they’ve had therapy for a year or two, the kids will be fine. They will eventually grow up, get perspective, & if their father wasn’t consistently an asshole to them before or after this isolated incident, they will probably be able to forgive him for the one fuck up, reconcile with him, and move on.

It’s when someone consistently hurts others, and denies it, that makes situations like this way more complex and difficult to move on from. But even then, a person can eventually heal and get better.

He doesn’t strike me as a long term, manipulative batterer. I could be mistaken, but this sounds more like a one off, than pervasive behavior.

It’s not good, but it’s not as horrible as we were initially lead to believe.

by Anonymousreply 154August 17, 2022 1:08 PM

Even his bio kids are born & raised Hollyweird. Their mom is a primary example. She turned out well. Think of all the Hollyweird spawn, then get back to us.

by Anonymousreply 155August 17, 2022 1:15 PM

Brad has never been known as the sharpest knife in the drawer. Procreating with an insane and vindictive woman is exactly something he wouldn't think through. That boring frau Jennifer Aniston must see these articles and laugh her head off, I know I would.

by Anonymousreply 156August 17, 2022 1:19 PM

Angelina has always been a liar since the 90’s and she was finally exposed when she denied the quotes from the Vanity Fair interview and VF return with receipts.

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by Anonymousreply 157August 17, 2022 1:37 PM

R157, holy shit. That's sociopathic.

by Anonymousreply 158August 17, 2022 1:44 PM

[quote] Still cannot believe that Pussy was that hot. OK. I'm a gay man.so maybe I can't understand.

Angelina, in her prime, was one of the most sexually desirable women on earth. She broke up at least two committed relationships. Of course, she's an anorexic crone now, but when she was younger, straight men would have walked over broken glass to be with her.

by Anonymousreply 159August 17, 2022 1:56 PM

I feel like her insane sex appeal was always PR and marketing. She had a man's body with bolt on tits and ugly tattoos.

by Anonymousreply 160August 17, 2022 2:01 PM

I’ve always been Team Brad, but what’s wrong, is wrong. Any way you slice it, it doesn’t make him look good at all. So he was cleared of hitting his son, but now we know he was physical with her, so this doesn’t make it any better. She struck him trying to get him not to confront Maddox, so that doesn’t really count as her physically abusing him. However, it does seem like an isolated incident. That’s always been my issue with AJ, he quit drinking, worked on himself and she is still holding a grudge. Like there are no second chances? Look all the shit Jennifer Garner, Denise Richards, etc.. put up with. Hell Madonna was tied to a chair by SP and still maintains a relationship with him until this day. Doesn’t sound like AJ wanted him back after he got sober, so it’s not like she was scorned.

I’m definitely not excusing his behavior, but he sounds like a man fed up who snapped. You could see she was mainly in the driver’s seat throughout. That relationship was never meant to last. It was lust more than love. She got pregnant really fast, so there is that. Plus he allegedly left his marriage for her (I think his marriage was all but over by the time they got together). So they stayed together largely because of the kids and to save face and they got huge publicity. I’m actually surprised how deranged she is coming off by continuing this drama. She’s like that Alice Eve or whatever her name is. I pegged her as someone who would have moved on, but she is so obsessed with Brad. It’s like she’ll never let him have a moment of peace for the rest of his life.

by Anonymousreply 161August 17, 2022 2:05 PM

She was a hot slut in her Jonny Lee Miller/Billy Bob Thornton era. She was actress every straight, church-going high school and college girl fantasised about making out with.

It all went downhill after she hooked up with Brad, though, because she became a parody of herself. Plus Brad likes his girls skinny, and she managed to lose what little weight she carried on her already minuscule frame.

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by Anonymousreply 162August 17, 2022 2:07 PM

Here's my issue with this- they're in the bathroom having an argument wherein he exclaims, "you're destroying our family." We have no idea what was said or done beforehand.

But we know something happened to lead to the fight. We know Angelina has said or done something that has led Brad to rage that she is destroying their family. And actually they're in the bathroom away from the kids, which is better than I imagined - they're trying to shield the kids.

Brad isn't going to release his side of this fight. All we have is victim Angie, but clearly there is something going on in the family dynamic that is loaded and dramatic.

I hate when one party in a divorce goes on the PR defense, because only the kids suffer. None of us should know this. It doesn't help other women seek justice, unless private plane domestic disputes need reform. And the people having domestic disputes on private planes are not going to abide by laws and rules set by the government anyway.

by Anonymousreply 163August 17, 2022 2:12 PM

Why is the FBI involved in this nonsense?

by Anonymousreply 164August 17, 2022 2:14 PM

American society is very violent and whether it's parents attacking children, children attacking parents, spouses or partners attacking each other, acquaintances attacking acquaintances or strangers attacking strangers, our tendency to just walk past and put it out of our minds is what keeps the problem going. Because people learn they can get away with violently acting out and it escalates from there. I don't know how we solve the problem but it's not working itself out.

by Anonymousreply 165August 17, 2022 2:19 PM

So maddox did not stop talking to Brad because he abused him on the plane but that he believe his mom over his dad and they were away in the bathroom, no eyewitness- so its only Brad and Angelina’s version…

by Anonymousreply 166August 17, 2022 2:19 PM

R166, it sounds like there was already tension with Maddox before the plane episode. It must be really awkward for the bio kids because the adopted ones are so against Brad and don’t seem to have bonded with him at all. They must’ve talked shit about him through the years with the full cooperation from AJ. Thought that of the Kardashians with Kylie and Kendall when they turned against him/her and Khloe would say things to the younger bio daughters.

by Anonymousreply 167August 17, 2022 2:31 PM

[quote]It must be really awkward for the bio kids because the adopted ones are so against Brad and don’t seem to have bonded with him at all.

My guess it isn't that they didn't bond with him - there are early pictures of Brad toting around baby Z that are quite cute. Angie has probably been whispering in their ear for years that they weren't enough - Brad wanted his own *bio* kids, not just someone's sloppy seconds. Maybe once they grow up, get clear of Angie they'll see the situation differently, but I could totally see her poisoning the relationship where that's harder to do with bio kids that he's been engaged with since Day One

by Anonymousreply 168August 17, 2022 2:44 PM

There are recent tabloid reports that Shiloh has also turned against him. One of the stalker stans on twitter found Shilo’s friend on social media acc and shiloh’s signed her painting as “Shiloh Jolie”.

by Anonymousreply 169August 17, 2022 2:55 PM

I wonder if he actually sees his children regularly. He has 50/50 custody of the children, yet we haven't seen him with any of his kids for 6+ years. It's great that he is private, but they never go on vacation or to a restaurant together? He never attends any of their soccer games or brings them to a set when he's filming abroad for months? How does that actually work? I read that the older boys refuse to see him and Zahara only visits (visited) him sporadically after the divorce. The only children he apparently has a relationship with are the younger bio children. It's just very weird that you never see him with any of his kids in public.

Also, Zahara just started college in Atlanta and he did not attend that event either. These are milestones in a child's life and he's obviously excluded from all of these events either by his or their choice. My parents were very proud to drop me of at college and I'm sorry he misses all of theses events.

by Anonymousreply 170August 17, 2022 3:00 PM

Well, what do you expect? Their mom has made this incident her entire reason for living. All she ever talks about in interviews is being abused, all she ever leaks to the press are bits about how the kids hate their father, she's got multiple lawsuits and investigations going against people and the FBI because they didn't do exactly what she wanted. That psychologist and the judge both said she was alienating the kids from their father and told her to stop, and instead, she got worse. She has bots on Twitter saying things like "Brad doesn't even know what his brown kids' names are" and "Brad is an abusive deadbeat dad" and those kids see all that.

Of COURSE those kids are going to think dad is evil. Mom told them so! She's told them so for six years, and I'd say probably for longer than that, given what we now know about the airplane incident.

What she's doing is abusive. You can say "Brad's lost because he put his hands on her" but that was a one-time fuck up, while she's been emotionally abusing those kids for years.

by Anonymousreply 171August 17, 2022 3:02 PM

R170, the paps catch him going to see his kids every so often, and the stalkers who found Shiloh's socials and Brad's niece's socials have seen them hanging out. I'm sure Angelina has insisted that it not be made public.

Personally, I think that's because she wants the public to think he doesn't see his kids and they don't want to see him, but who knows.

by Anonymousreply 172August 17, 2022 3:05 PM

R168, Maddox was always Angelina’s, there was always a weird vibe there too. They other two I could see the poisoning about how she wanted to adopt them, not him. It if he was a raging alcoholic for the last few years of that relationship, I could see them taking her side. The bio kids, it’s tricky because he is a blood tie and when they see him, they see themselves. They’re also younger. But I could only imagine what’s said about their father from every side in the Jolie home. Angelina also seemingly indulges their every whim, so there is that too.

Look at Ronan Farrow. I’m not sure about what to believe about WA, but there was zero interaction with his bio kid, who despises him to this day.

by Anonymousreply 173August 17, 2022 3:05 PM

[quote]She struck him trying to get him not to confront Maddox, so that doesn’t really count as her physically abusing him.

We don't know that, we just know she said that was why she put him in the choke hold and scratched him. As I said earlier, we don't know why Brad was walking toward Maddox. Given how she let the public think Brad hit Maddox when he didn't, I think it's reasonable to question some of her other statements about what went on, too.

by Anonymousreply 174August 17, 2022 3:07 PM

We know Angelina told Pax that Brad never wanted him, it was the same story she told Maddox about Billy Bob Thornton.

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by Anonymousreply 175August 17, 2022 3:09 PM

Earlier this year a judge in Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie’s vicious custody battle ordered Jolie to stop trash talking her ex-husband to her kids.

At the time, the injunction on Jolie, which specified that she was required to tell their children that the “court has determined that not having a relationship with their father is harmful to them,” and that they were “safe with their father,” seemed utterly bizarre.

Now, however, comes a possible explanation. It has emerged that Jolie allegedly told their 15-year-old son Pax that Pitt “never wanted to adopt him,” according to the new issue of Us Weekly magazine. Jolie also allegedly told Pax, described as his mom’s “closest confidant,” that Pitt “was angry” she had gone ahead with it.

by Anonymousreply 176August 17, 2022 3:12 PM

I mean Shiloh was only 8 months and Zahara ‘s a year older..maybe Brad wanted to focus the attention on those babies before taking care of an older adoptee who dont know English.

by Anonymousreply 177August 17, 2022 3:18 PM

The problem is Pax is an arrogant scofflaw. Rules for thee, but not for me, as you can see in this shocking bodycam footage.

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by Anonymousreply 178August 17, 2022 3:26 PM

I think Brad got very, very, very lucky that Angelina didn’t try to pin sex abuse charges against him. He would’ve been completely done with just the allegation. I’m actually surprised she didn’t go there. I do think they’ll be a Maddox and/or Pax tell all interview where they say he was a shit father. He really will never be free of them.

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by Anonymousreply 179August 17, 2022 3:31 PM

Was this FBI stuff released because Angelina is doing press for her new movie?

Pax and Maddox were working with her on the movie, of course.

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by Anonymousreply 180August 17, 2022 3:48 PM

I remember at the time raising my eyebrows when Pitt went on his “I’m getting sober” press tour.

He has quite a PR machine. If he’s admitting to being a drunk, there’s probably something there. He could have just brazened it out.

Jolie is crazy, but we’ve known that for 20 years.

by Anonymousreply 181August 17, 2022 3:50 PM

[Quote] . "The book had an impact on me as it has so many other people," continues Jolie. "It carries themes and questions important to discuss."

Stirring. Really poignant words.

by Anonymousreply 182August 17, 2022 4:48 PM

This crazy bitch admits that she and her then- boyfriend were cutting each other at 14., because sex wasn't enough.

by Anonymousreply 183August 17, 2022 4:51 PM

R183, are you also R74?

by Anonymousreply 184August 17, 2022 4:58 PM

R169 To be fair Shiloh Jolie is a prettier name without the Pitt add and she's a teenage girl (despite Angie's attempts). She does hang out with her cousins.

And Brad WAS close to Maddox before. I don't think he always hated Brad. I think he was told things the last few years before they broke up. Pax on the other hand I think always had issues.

by Anonymousreply 185August 17, 2022 5:00 PM

I think the adoption of Pax is a good example of their dysfunctional marriage. After Angelina leaked to the press that Brad didn’t want to adopt Pax, Brad made sure the full story came out. Apparently they were having major relationship issues and Brad thought the timing of the adoption was terrible and they needed to slow down. Angelina went ahead anyway.

Whatever the story, it is appalling to tell your adopted kid he was unwanted by one of his parents and to leak that to the press is even more so. She is clearly fine with hurting the kids as a byproduct of hurting Brad.

by Anonymousreply 186August 17, 2022 5:15 PM

R182 gets it.

by Anonymousreply 187August 17, 2022 5:26 PM

I don’t think you want the word “pit” on wedding invitations.

- the kid in Father of the Bride

by Anonymousreply 188August 17, 2022 5:28 PM

r167 Nobody fucking CARES about the Kartrashians. Don't bring those scumbags into this thread.

by Anonymousreply 189August 17, 2022 5:42 PM

How do we know Brad doesn't see the kids, at least the ones that are interested. He's got a 2 acre estate with a pool, tennis court and skate park.

Just because he isn't dragging them around The Grove doesn't mean they don't hang out together.

by Anonymousreply 190August 17, 2022 6:18 PM

I'm sure some of them visit him. But isn't it weird that they clearly never leave his compound? It's sad when you can't do normal stuff like picking your kids up from soccer or dance class or just go for ice cream. He doesn't have to drag them to a movie premiere, but why is he hiding them and not doing normal family stuff.

by Anonymousreply 191August 17, 2022 6:33 PM

We have no idea if they "never leave his compound" or not.

With all we know, it's very silly to think he's "hiding them." We all know it's almost certain that Jolie has demanded he not be seen publicly with the kids. He also never mentioned them in interviews, until recently when he talked about Shiloh dancing and was asked about Zahara. They were brief mentions but it was the first time he'd said anything publicly about his kids in years.

This is my own personal tinfoil hat theory but I half wonder if this stupid FBI "revelation" is payback because he actually talked about Shiloh and Zahara publicly, and Jolie didn't want him to, and now she's mad. Remember how mad Angelina was when Shiloh was going to have a tiny role in an Aniston movie, even though she's had the kids working on her movies several times?

by Anonymousreply 192August 17, 2022 6:45 PM

Celebs can hide when they want to. She gets spotted with her kids because she wants to get spotted with her kids.

by Anonymousreply 193August 17, 2022 6:47 PM

Exactly r193. The idea that during his court-appointed weekends Pitt has his kids holed up on his estate, hidden, unable to leave, not doing normal family stuff, simply because you can’t see them on Radar Online, is idiotic.

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by Anonymousreply 195August 18, 2022 12:23 AM

Who is this “everyone,” R195? If you mean “everyone on Celebitchy,” then they were on Angelina’s side (or rather, planted firmly up her ass) forever, first in “AJ vs. JA” and then in “AJ vs. BP.” But other than that, who else has any doubts that St. Angie is a crazy vindictive bitch with delusions of grandeur and a messianic complex?

by Anonymousreply 196August 18, 2022 12:33 AM

Oh, poor Knox got her original face.

by Anonymousreply 197August 18, 2022 12:42 AM

I have never seen Angelina look happier than in that daily mail pics she looks practically gleeful.

She truly believe she has won and sadly she probably did.

by Anonymousreply 198August 18, 2022 12:53 AM

R198, it's a crazy person victory. Medea. Destroyed everything in your children's lives that made them important- your and your partner's reputation and fame and ability to make money with no other connections or education - merely to fuck him over. Those kids are not going to ascend into the business or political world. They can only stay in Hollywood, and she's torched it.

She's insane.

by Anonymousreply 199August 18, 2022 12:56 AM

Angie only fucked herself. At the worst, Brad will continue to produce.

by Anonymousreply 200August 18, 2022 12:59 AM

People underestimate how sick people are of hearing about this, as in most view it as vindictive behavior, and how much the general public dislikes Angelina if you think she won anything.

by Anonymousreply 201August 18, 2022 1:00 AM

His ovation at the Oscars proved that.

by Anonymousreply 202August 18, 2022 1:03 AM

Brad's sources are flooding every outlet (People, TMZ, Page Six, etc.). He's definitely scared.

by Anonymousreply 203August 18, 2022 1:08 AM

R162 vastly overestimating her previous appeal. It was a lot of PR. I knew a lot of straight guys who weren't into her.

by Anonymousreply 204August 18, 2022 1:17 AM

Please, you think Brad is scared of that scarecrow cunt? Sick of her is more like it.

by Anonymousreply 205August 18, 2022 1:23 AM

He has no more power/leverage in the industry now that he’s been revealed as a box office flop who couldnt even save the film without competition in a dead of august.

More will turn on him…

by Anonymousreply 206August 18, 2022 1:27 AM

Angelina was more of a straight woman’s idea of a gorgeous woman. Jennifer Aniston was more of what men went for.

As for Brad, I don’t think this will change anything. Nobody in the industry likes or respects Angelina, read the Sony leaks, so I doubt it’ll tarnish his reputation. It was also years ago. Who really cares anymore, except Angelina and a bunch of freaks on Twitter?

by Anonymousreply 207August 18, 2022 1:34 AM

I think too many people like Brad for him to be cancelled. Most women hate Ang the awful. ow most men find her gag worthy. so, doubt she can raise a fart in a nunnery.

And if he was cancelled, he is so rich, think it would be..Oh well, now I can really be totally private, do whatever the hell I really want, when & with whoever & no one will clock me.

Doesn't sound half bad.

As to the spawn once they are done with college, bye bye child support. Wonder how Ang is going to support her big wokey life then. Her career efoorts have been snooze fests & epic fails.

If spawn behave like shits to him they can find work with Mommy at Wendy's. Bet Ang could warm some burger buns with those screw on tits.

by Anonymousreply 208August 18, 2022 1:35 AM

R206, check out movies produced by his company Plan B. You might want to rethink that post.

by Anonymousreply 209August 18, 2022 1:42 AM

How much money does AJ have? Why is she going so hard after Brad for child support? I thought she was loaded and also just sold her shares of their French winery. This isn't exactly a Britney/KFed situation and she should be able to support her children with child support.

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by Anonymousreply 211August 18, 2022 1:45 AM

I thought Plan B was owned by Pitt and Jennifer Aniston. Do I remember that wrong?

by Anonymousreply 212August 18, 2022 1:54 AM

Again, why is the FBI involved?

by Anonymousreply 213August 18, 2022 1:57 AM

Aniston sold him her share of the production company. He seems to do well in the splits as far as the businesses go, he wanted to do the same with the winery.

by Anonymousreply 214August 18, 2022 1:59 AM

Because the incident happened on a plane. Why do people here ask the same dumb questions over and over?

by Anonymousreply 215August 18, 2022 2:00 AM

R212 Jen was a founder along with Brad Grey. Don't think she had much to do with it and sold her shares with the divorce. Brad Grey moved on to Paramount as CEO (and has since died) and Brad owned it fully and is the CEO.

Brad never had to actually act again to be successful.

by Anonymousreply 216August 18, 2022 2:01 AM

He knew angelina was a giant fucking bitch and he got together with her anyway. He deserves all this drama and everything he gets.

by Anonymousreply 217August 18, 2022 2:15 AM

[quote] Who really cares anymore, except Angelina and a bunch of freaks on Twitter?

Well apparently, with at least 218 posts, several posters on DL.

by Anonymousreply 218August 18, 2022 2:17 AM

[quote] Again, why is the FBI involved?

[quote] Because the incident happened on a plane. Why do people here ask the same dumb questions over and over?

Pretty much answered, in the form of a question, at R44.

by Anonymousreply 219August 18, 2022 2:17 AM

I don't understand the purpose of this lawsuit. Is she going to sue the FBI over its failure to arrest Pitt? What did we, as federal tax payers, do to deserve this?

by Anonymousreply 220August 18, 2022 2:31 AM

[quote] How much money does AJ have? Why is she going so hard after Brad for child support?

Profligate spending.

Six kids, worldwide travel, worldwide residences, body guards, attorney$$$, etc.

According to the Daily Mail article, she used 3 bodyguards to take Knox (son) to Paramount Studio.

Did they really make money from the winery? Sounded like a vanity project, like owning racehorses.

by Anonymousreply 221August 18, 2022 2:36 AM

Slightly off topic, but her cheek and chin implants look ghastly in R195. The chin implant in particular. She probably thinks it sharpens her jawline and prevents waddle neck, but it looks ridiculously large relative to the rest of her face. A few pounds, or twenty, would help.

by Anonymousreply 222August 18, 2022 2:42 AM

My favorite part of the plane "incident" wasn't her elbow owie, or that he may or may not have shaken her, or whatever the fuck went down with creepy Maddox. It was him pouring the beer on her.

That is so fucking perfect. Dame Angelina--always expecting to be seen as the most beautiful, sexy one in the room. The one who is, in her mind, at a higher level of enlightenment, intelligence and station, getting a sweet, sweet old school, delightfully white trash "brewski beanie" on her not so angelic noggin.

I think ALL of her buttons were pushed with that. The Hollywood wild child with her knives, blood vials tattoos and assorted kinks couldn't handle getting a fucking beer (how dreadful!) poured on her. She felt humiliated and she went nuclear. I would normally say well played, Brad. However, as satisfying as that must have felt, he's still paying one hell of a price for it. Six fucking years later....

by Anonymousreply 223August 18, 2022 2:46 AM

She is a nasty piece of work.

by Anonymousreply 224August 18, 2022 2:58 AM

WHEN WILL THE TEARS STOP?

by Anonymousreply 225August 18, 2022 3:30 AM

R69, I’m not picking sides here, because I don’t know what actually happened here, and it’s really none of our business.

But since everyone is taking wild guesses here, I’d say she’s been pretty triggered that her ex was seen doing his press junkets with a big smile on his face, wearing skirts, wearing vibrant, colorful and casual summer ensembles, and just kinda looked carefree and happy for the first time in what has been probably years of misery that people go through when involved in nasty, contentious divorces.

I was actually kinda happy for the guy, and thought that it was a sign that they were both moving on into a better place in each of their lives, while ther kids did the same, as well.

I understand the anger anyone feels, when they were involved with anyone in their lives, whom they felt fucked them or a family member over. There are many legit reasons to have justifiable anger at someone who you feel hurt you, but honestly, that does start to subside after a while. You cannot seethe with anger directed at one person for years on end, because it’s just not a normal way to live, and it really can destroy you.

I’m actually surprised she’s coming out with this shit now, especially when there seem to be some really awesome things happening in her life.

Her daughter just started college, which is an amazing trajectory all on its own, as Zahara won the lottery in a sense, and ended up having a life afforded to her that many kids from her country probably don’t ever get to live.

So why ruin such an awesome moment for yourself and your children, by dragging this back out?

I’ve often wondered if I will ever forgive my mom’s abuser. Last week, I rolled it around in my head, looking at the pros and cons. I don’t know what the outcome will be for this regarding my feelings, but I do know that I’m considering it because a) it becomes less and less relevant to me as the one year anniversary nears, in which I got the fuck out of that mess, and b) he is my mother’s husband, and if I want to see her again, which I do, I’m going to have to make a decision about how that happens, with as little conflict and acrimony as possible.

Family dynamics are very complex, and routinely unjust and even unfair, but as grown ups, we sometimes have to find a way to manage negative emotions and feelings, in order to do what’s best for people we love, like our own kids or our parents.

by Anonymousreply 226August 18, 2022 3:47 AM

r226 Get a blog.

by Anonymousreply 227August 18, 2022 3:54 AM

R227, get a blob!

by Anonymousreply 228August 18, 2022 3:56 AM

Such rapier wit, r228

by Anonymousreply 229August 18, 2022 3:59 AM

Strange, strange chick:

[quote]Rolling Stone magazine had just declared theirs to be America's most dangerous marriage. They famously wore long silver chains with lockets containing each other's blood. They kept a pet rat in a cage in the bedroom. And for their anniversary, Angelina gave Billy Bob a grave plot.

[quote]But as a teenager, her fascination with knives was self-destructive in nature. She talks openly about how she once cut herself to express pain. For Jolie, knives and cutting also had a sexual lure. "I didn't ever feel enough. I didn't feel close enough to another person, I didn't feel alive enough. … Nothing ever felt real and honest enough. And so because I had knives around … early on in my first sexual relationship, I got knives out and had a night where we attacked each other," Jolie said. Jolie says she still has scars from the encounter, but said, "It didn't hurt, it was cold, and it felt so primitive and it felt so honest."

And...she had herself committed to a rubber room because she couldn't stand to be alone when Billy Bob Thornton was going out of town to work on a movie, she made out with her brother at several public events, and she once hired a hitman to kill her.

Brad isn't intelligent enough to have predicted a nasty outcome. He made his bed...

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by Anonymousreply 230August 18, 2022 4:05 AM

She seems autistic in the same way Melania and Kim Kardashian seem autistic. So boring. Even with sex work, sex tapes and slasher sex, just fucking voids.

by Anonymousreply 231August 18, 2022 4:32 AM

R220, the lawsuit is allegedly to get what she thinks is more paperwork they didn't provide to her from the last lawsuit in 2016. She thinks there's some report out there that lays out in detail why they didn't arrest Pitt, and she wants it.

In truth, she's just bringing this all up again to try to ruin his life and maybe fuck with the FBI a little.

by Anonymousreply 232August 18, 2022 4:40 AM

[quote]According to the Daily Mail article, she used 3 bodyguards to take Knox (son) to Paramount Studio.

There weren't any bodyguards on the plane with them during the incident, though? There must have been.

There had to have been bodyguards and assistants on that plane, too, plus any crew that was back there at the time. The FBI would have gotten all their statements, and they still didn't arrest Brad. Hmm, I'll bet that's something the Angie stans on Twitter "accidentally" forget to mention all the time.

by Anonymousreply 233August 18, 2022 4:48 AM

[quote]Because the incident happened on a plane. Why do people here ask the same dumb questions over and over?

People who are disruptive on planes are turned over to local police when they land, we've seen it in hundreds of news articles. The police almost certainly work with the Feds but that could be either the FAA or FBI.

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by Anonymousreply 234August 18, 2022 4:52 AM

[quote] People who are disruptive on planes are turned over to local police when they land, we've seen it in hundreds of news articles.

Yes, I think local police do the initial arrest for practical purposes. There aren't roaming federal agents who make arrests like that.

E.g., this woman who punched a flight attendant (on a plane) was prosecuted in federal court.

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by Anonymousreply 235August 18, 2022 5:03 AM

What does it mean the kid looks like a Columbine kid? Dressed goth and being moody or something?

by Anonymousreply 236August 18, 2022 6:03 AM

Which kid was he referring to? Jolie was wrong to put this stuff out there. Now everyone knows that Pitt referred to him as a columbine kid.

by Anonymousreply 237August 18, 2022 6:09 AM

The winery was not a vanity project. It was Brad's 60/40, purchased for roughly $28 million and worth $165 at their divorce.

The rose, and rose champagne is highly rated.

Brad is not stupid, and stays in his wheelhouse - architecture and booze (other than the Katrina mess, better he should have just donated to charity).

Cunt of all cunts, cut off her chin to spite her face, she sold for what she could get. Had the dumb bitch waited another 10 years- she was most likely looking at a $500 million investment.

by Anonymousreply 238August 18, 2022 6:27 AM

I don't like the Mirval rose.

by Anonymousreply 239August 18, 2022 6:33 AM

I doubt either of them are angels. But I think the public has grown weary of the medias weird obssessive caping for the women in dysfunctional relationships between 2 spoiled and famous straight people. BPD women are not as widely adored as the blue checks on Twitter ( or the op ed writers of the NYT) seem to imagine. Jolie is rich, fairly intelligent,and imo still attractive. She has a life much better than most and would be wise to simply let this drop and go back to her charity work. Pitt will probably be fine but he was dumb to passively allow so many children to be brought into the fray. If Jolie pushes hard enough it will only hurt the sprogs.

by Anonymousreply 240August 18, 2022 6:39 AM

[quote] There had to have been bodyguards and assistants on that plane, too, plus any crew that was back there at the time. The FBI would have gotten all their statements, and they still didn't arrest Brad. Hmm, I'll bet that's something the Angie stans on Twitter "accidentally" forget to mention all the time.

The Rolling Stone article linked above (quoting the newly released material) is Angelina's testimony, which I believe is important to note. It's not a quote from law enforcement or a court filing, it's just what AJ said happened on that plane, and it notably does not include Brad's testimony - or anyone else's - as to what happened.

by Anonymousreply 241August 18, 2022 6:46 AM

I still want to know who the columbine kid was.

by Anonymousreply 242August 18, 2022 6:49 AM

R239, up late Ang? You are in the minority - the first release sold out, and most wine reviewers love it. The Rose Champs is wonderful.

by Anonymousreply 243August 18, 2022 6:50 AM

The truth in these sort of matters is the blame is usually 50/50.

Both parties behaved badly.

When one party takes a holier than thou not my fault, it's usually a tell tale sign of blame to go all around.

Angelina needs to move on and shop for some more kids and Brad can wear more funny outfits.

by Anonymousreply 244August 18, 2022 6:50 AM

R234, they were on a private plane.

by Anonymousreply 245August 18, 2022 6:53 AM

Angelina is a bunny boiler. I'm sure she lured him into marriage planning this all along. Too bad men think with their dicks.

He can enjoy his new Carmel $40 million hideaway. Paid in cash, which is roughly $100 gross.

She will be a broke hag. Angelina is a few steps from Angelynne.

by Anonymousreply 246August 18, 2022 7:03 AM

R239, Mirval rose? Are you shopping at TJ hunty?

by Anonymousreply 247August 18, 2022 7:17 AM

[quote]Jolie said when she asked him what was wrong, he allegedly replied: “That kid looks like a f------ Columbine kid.”

Wonder which one of his kids he was referring to?

by Anonymousreply 248August 18, 2022 7:33 AM

The stereotypical "Columbine kid" was someone in a black trench coat, and considering Angelina's love of trench coats, I'm kind of wondering if he wasn't calling HER a "Columbine kid." I only see her in a black trench in a couple of photos, though. It doesn't make a lot of sense.

I also don't understand why she'd want this out there, but this is the same lady who told Pax that Brad never wanted him, and told Maddox that Billy Bob never wanted him, so she doesn't seem to care much about the kids except to make sure they get a good healthy dose of public trauma.

by Anonymousreply 249August 18, 2022 9:32 AM

Anyone else remember how, about a year ago, there were stories in the gossip columns about how Maddox was asking Billy Bob for "fatherly advice" now that Brad was out of the picture, then those stories almost all disappeared?

I was thinking about that when I read this earlier this year, when Billy Bob wrote a joke in one of his movies about a sad guy "adopting a Chinese baby" out of loneliness.

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by Anonymousreply 250August 18, 2022 9:36 AM

Does Billy have a big dick?

I bet he does, look at that smirk

by Anonymousreply 251August 18, 2022 9:50 AM

In her psycho obsession to try to destroy Brad, it's obvious she really doesn't care if she hurts these kids. That she would go to this much trouble to reveal to the world that a father was concerned about his son's possible darker and troubling side as a teenager tells you what a POS parent and person she is.

Nice that it also finally came out that she was drinking, too. Her version depicting herself as sitting at his feet to calmly try to coax out of him why he was "mad" at his teenage Columbine son is so typical of her. I doubt that whatever was going on with Maddox that concerned Brad was just about his clothes. Who believes Brad, an actor with a creative side, was simply objecting to outre teenage clothing? No this was more than that. He also reportedly - according to Angelina - said to her will you be happy when he kills someone? She was allowing something or some behaviors that Brad felt troubling. Remember she started buying him a knife collection when he 6 cause she thought that was cool. I wonder if he had started cutting like his mother. She even bragged about cutting her teenage boyfriend.

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by Anonymousreply 253August 18, 2022 10:57 AM

I don't see the big deal about the knives. We bought Burke a diy garrote kit for Xmas '96. You gotta let kids be kids.

by Anonymousreply 254August 18, 2022 12:06 PM

I'm sure she hemorrhages money. She has issues with substances She has admitted it & it is well known.. It is costly to have a personal drug shopper/supplier. Angie can't hit the strip shopping for a hit.They have you by the balls lest they spill your using habits.

She has to purchase loads of silence & good PR. Not cheap in her case. Bet she is now at the point of having to pay paps who will show her sympathetically. She also has to pay for people to keep the less sympathetic paps from snapping her. Then, all that showy upkeep on the kids. How much did she have to pay for all that smiling love-up fest at Spellman.

Then her personal bot farm to show how ALL of the world love & support her. Not cheap.

Her spending still hasn't made her loved.

End of the day Brad got the standing ovation at the Oscars. She had to tongue kiss with her brother at the Oscars to get noticed.

by Anonymousreply 255August 18, 2022 12:06 PM

What r194 said, and r190, r192 said.

"But, what about the children? Why isn't Pitt ever shown with the children?" thing is stupid and comes with a tinge of creepiness.

And it's to Pitt's credit he didn't go with Zahara to Spelman. It was her day, not his, and his presence would've been a huge distraction.

Thornton's 3rd or 4th wife publicly stated he has a huge penis.

Jolie is bitter. And, sometimes, life, sexism, aging, hand you good reasons to be bitter. That's what I think all of this is about.

She's sees Pitt, a male hay-shaker hick from Bumfucke, Missouri, rise to be the very A Listiest of A Listers and maintain a position and money (partially due to, at one time, riding her coat tails), while her stardom, and position in Hollywood, has waned.

And to add to the drama, Jolie is the one born with the Hollywood pedigree, the star father, and living and knowing, since a child, "the industry" from the inside out, and now, she's out.

And if anybody denies that males are more valued in Hollywood than females, this situation is your proof.

Jolie has more talent in her little finger than the dull, but beautiful and conventionally appealing Pitt ever will have, but he's a man and he won't be put out to pasture.

Don't get me wrong. I agree that Jolie's behavior since the split is wrong, wrong, wrong. Rational parents try to maintain a good co-parenting relationship and, instead of, to the children, undermining respect for their other parent, they reinforce affection and respect by their children to the other parent.

I believe Jolie has violated that good parenting rule.

Too bad they both didn't see their initial get-together as a series of enjoyable, short-term, drunken, one-night stands (a thing, back in my day, I myself enjoyed) and left it at that.

Nope. They mistook what should have been a fling for marriage and children material.

What a colossal mistake for everybody involved.

by Anonymousreply 256August 18, 2022 12:15 PM

Forgot to add, Pitt has earned, and worked hard for his position. That's not to be begrudged. He took his extraordinary physical gifts and drive and put himself where he is.

In that regard, Pitt is the male JLo, and I have enormous respect for her stardom even more noteworthy for her lack of talent, but damn, what a hell of a performer.

But anybody who denies that he was able to turn the tables on Jolie because he is a man, is in denial about the ingrained sexism and ageism of Hollywood.

by Anonymousreply 257August 18, 2022 12:32 PM

For the last few days, "Brad Pitt" and "Angelina" have been trending on Twitter, and there is a stark difference between what's on this thread, which comes complete with links and proof, and all the strange claims being made on social media. For instance, people are saying Pitt has the same PR company as Johnny Depp, but he doesn't. He's occasionally hired one person Depp has used before, Matthew Hiltzik, and the bots never mention Angelina has ALSO uses a former Johnny Depp PR person, Laura Wasser.

No one on Twitter wants to call these lies out because the bots and the blue check verified accounts are so angry and nasty about it all.

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by Anonymousreply 258August 18, 2022 12:36 PM

Brad hasn't "turned the tables" on Angelina. I confess that I don't even know what it means.

Many people want to fall back on the "rich white privileged" argument when it comes to Brad, but the problem is that Angelina also qualifies. They then have to rely on the sexism argument. However, this is one of the most desired, famous women in the country, with an international reputation and millions of dollars. You cannot convince most people that she's a victim of everyone involved ruling against her because of sexism. You'd have to believe that the FBI agents in both investigations, the child psychologist, and the judge were all unfair to her because they hate women. That's simply not believable.

by Anonymousreply 259August 18, 2022 12:40 PM

R256 I disagree that Angie is actually talented or that much more talented than him. Brad's actually quite good as a character actor. I think he falls flat when he has to do leading man roles though, but those roles are expected of him given his looks. He's also really talented and picking and producing projects, something you can't say for Angelina who hasn't ever directed a decent project despite still doing it over and over again. Angelina also won a Oscar for playing herself. She's basically a nepo baby who used the press to her advantage her whole life.

What's interesting (and why this shit is never ending) about Brad vs Angelina is they both are pretty damn amazing at PR and neither one is going to give in. They'll be fighting each other forever. A shame there are actual kids involved in this.

by Anonymousreply 260August 18, 2022 12:44 PM

[quote]Jolie has more talent in her little finger than the dull, but beautiful and conventionally appealing Pitt ever will have, but he's a man and he won't be put out to pasture.

I have to absolutely disagree on this. Jolie is a personality, not an actress. She's simply not very good as an actor but thrives as a personality. She became popular because of her pedigree and her looks. Once she tried for more lofty roles like in Mighty Heart and Changeling, she faltered. She's perfect for entertainment products like Maleficent or Sky Captain (and I'm probably the only person here who liked that film) but she could never handle a Coen Bros. movie or a Tarantino.

Brad USED to be absolutely terrible in serious movies. Meet Joe Black, Seven Years in Tibet, all blech. He improved. Jolie never did. He also got into producing, which makes a huge difference in how their careers played out.

That doesn't mean she shouldn't have a Hollywood career, and honestly, I'm not sure why we're acting like she doesn't. I don't get why people are saying she's been iced out of Hollywood because of sexism. Since the split she's had Kung Fu Panda, Maleficent, and now Eternals, all franchises that are doing very well.

by Anonymousreply 261August 18, 2022 12:51 PM

I keep hearing that Brad has great PR but I'm not seeing it. His PR has almost no social media presence. Sometimes I think people believe every comment they see online that isn't condemning him to hell is "Brad's great PR machine."

by Anonymousreply 262August 18, 2022 12:53 PM

it’s sad because even though Twitter is not the real world the media gets most of their influence and reaction on there and it seems like so many are mad at Brad and are in Angelina’s side but if go to other social media outlets its a different story…

by Anonymousreply 263August 18, 2022 12:59 PM

You gotta wonder what he did that makes her hate him so much this long after the divorce.

Sure, when the kids were younger, I could see - maybe - that she was trying to protect them or something. But now, this just has the flavor of woman scorned.

How did the nutty chick who kissed her brother and wore a vial of blood for a necklace become so worshipped and admired.

by Anonymousreply 264August 18, 2022 1:09 PM

She wanted to move to the UK with the kids for a top political position and Brad wont let her. Brad being arrested will let her have sole custody but it backfired when the FBI cleared him. I believe it was all planned out because she purchased a rented home weeks before the plane incident.

by Anonymousreply 265August 18, 2022 1:15 PM

She's very similar to Mia Farrow. Angelina will never let this go.

by Anonymousreply 266August 18, 2022 1:31 PM

I just think she’s a seriously fucked up and completely myopic as a lot of fucked up people are. Clearly from her point of view she is the better parent despite the shit she has dragged these kids through and continues to do so. It’s so damaging and so unnecessary.

by Anonymousreply 267August 18, 2022 1:32 PM

I wonder what she will do once all the kids are out of the house. Her whole life and image is BENVEVOLENT MOTHER. The oldest kids are already 14 and a few years away from college. Although I guess she can still control them by having them all work for mommy like Pax and Maddox.

by Anonymousreply 268August 18, 2022 1:35 PM

[Quote]She thinks there's some report out there that lays out in detail why they didn't arrest Pitt, and she wants it.

You guys, she's not a vindictive cunt. Lol. The DM article states she wants the report bc her kids are still traumatized from the incident 6 years later and she's looking for info in the FBI and SPS reports to help her traumatized children.

I think the Columbine kid is either Maddox or Pax. I find both boys creepy. There's just something off with them. Pax also looks ridiculous with his designer clothes and Maddox seems to think he's some stylish hipster or influencer when he's not.

Is Maddox still in college in South Korea? I was impressed that he apparently attended college in South Korea to study Biochemistry. He left college during the pandemic and we haven't heard if he's still enrolled or dropped out. What about Pax? Does he have a job or plans to attend college?

I'm curious if any of those kids will actually graduate and get a degree. 4 years in a new city and environment away from their overbearing mother and the media shitshow is a huge challenge. I really can't see Shiloh or Z attending school for 4 years, focusing on their studies and get a normal job after graduating. It seems like they're all trapped in a giant fake media bubble. I think Maddox already dropped out and is working for his mother.

by Anonymousreply 269August 18, 2022 2:10 PM

R269, to help her traumatized children?

weird because her lawyers also stated the deal with stoli is to help the kids inheritance….

Umm

by Anonymousreply 270August 18, 2022 2:13 PM

I keep reading that Pitt has the sme publicist as Harvey Weinstein. Is that true?

by Anonymousreply 271August 18, 2022 2:17 PM

same*

by Anonymousreply 272August 18, 2022 2:17 PM

R270 Bless her. Everything she does is for THE CHILDREN!!!

And there's zero chance her kids are still traumatized from that incident. If they are, it's because she won't shut up about it. She should just say she's still mad about it. If they are still that upset about this incident it must have been something that was so wildly out of character for Brad that is completely messed with their minds. Meaning they should have also been able to move past it since they know that's not who Brad is, but knowing her they do think that's who Brad is because she's telling them he is.

Columbine Kid has to be Maddox or Pax. No way it was the younger twins or the other two girls.

by Anonymousreply 273August 18, 2022 2:17 PM

Blue check marks are weighing in.

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by Anonymousreply 274August 18, 2022 2:20 PM

It looks like even Entertainment Tonight have turned against him..

What a nightmare for Brad

How will his career recover?

by Anonymousreply 275August 18, 2022 2:20 PM

Twitter is definitely Team Jolie.

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by Anonymousreply 276August 18, 2022 2:21 PM

A writer from GQ magazine were Brad appeared several times in their front cover ? The industry can really used you and spit you out so quick/no loyalty

He really is not in the moment anymore..

by Anonymousreply 277August 18, 2022 2:28 PM

Why can’t Brad leak his version of events? Why does he have to stay quiet?

by Anonymousreply 278August 18, 2022 2:33 PM

[quote]The DM article states she wants the report bc her kids are still traumatized from the incident 6 years later and she's looking for info in the FBI and SPS reports to help her traumatized children.

She already got the report in the 2016 lawsuit, "Lol." She's suing again because she says there's more paperwork out there.

The kids don't need more paperwork to help process their trauma. Come the fuck on.

by Anonymousreply 279August 18, 2022 2:35 PM

Pitt's PR strategy isn't working now. To the casual reader, it comes off as "How DARE she still be upset about this?! This is not good for *me*!" which is not a good look in 2022. He's going to have reveal more Jolie/their relationship and what pissed him off so much in the first place.

He may have to get back together with Aniston at this point as well to distract and get people to ignore all of this. Just kidding (mostly).

by Anonymousreply 280August 18, 2022 2:39 PM

The feminist sex columnist at GQ doesn't have anything to do with the people who decide who's on the cover, r277.

Her tweet is pretty standard for the kinds of tweets you see about this. "We knew CPS was called on him" which doesn't actually mean anything. He was cleared by CPS and the FBI.

If it was anyone else who had CPS called on them and they were cleared, people would be saying so. In this case, because it's a popular topic, and because people on social media are desperate for another Johnny Depp situation to earn them followers and clicks and attention, "CPS was called on him" means "he's beaten all his kids and should be run out of Hollywood permanently and also jailed plus Angelina is an angel and a saint."

by Anonymousreply 281August 18, 2022 2:40 PM

[Quote]It also alleges Jane Doe has filed numerous requests for a copy of the department's investigative file in hopes of 'better understanding the FBI's investigation and obtaining information necessary for her children to receive medical care and trauma counseling.'

[Quote]The filing alleges the woman's children have 'experienced lasting physical and mental trauma' after being 'verbally and physically' assaulted by her then-husband while flying on a private plane.

It's all for the children. They still need counseling and therapy 6 years later.

by Anonymousreply 282August 18, 2022 2:45 PM

Pitt isn't going to do anything that could be even faintly construed as hurting the kids, and that includes leaking information about Jolie doing drugs, being abusive, lying, or anything along those lines.

Also, the social media pitchfork-n-torches brigade learned from the Johnny Depp bots that a pre-emptive strike of claiming the other person has "great PR" makes it really easy to dismiss anything the other person says, because "it's just their PR, they're just lying to save their reputation" is already out there. There's not a lot he can say beyond one carefully worded statement.

by Anonymousreply 283August 18, 2022 2:46 PM

The kids don't need more FBI paperwork to get therapy. For fuck's sake.

I honestly want to know why the kids need over six years' worth of therapy each for an incident which mostly happened in the bathroom of a plane where they couldn't even see what was going on.

by Anonymousreply 284August 18, 2022 2:47 PM

More good press for Brad.

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by Anonymousreply 285August 18, 2022 2:57 PM

[quote]The filing alleges the woman's children have 'experienced lasting physical and mental trauma' after being 'verbally and physically' assaulted by her then-husband while flying on a private plane.

This is almost certainly a lie. None of those children have lasting PHYSICAL trauma from the incident in 2016.

She has filed this lawsuit only so she can say that the kids are still physically and emotionally devastated because of Brad Pitt. She made sure to have social media accounts ready to bolster this claim.

This is probably a reaction to his lawsuit about the Stoli deal.

I shouldn't get emotionally involved in celebrity drama, but I am genuinely worried about these kids. I'm afraid that in a year, Zahara is going to quietly go back to living with mom, that they're going to be well into their 20s and still going with mom in her old gowns to movie premieres, that she's still going to be talking about raising her children as though they were toddlers even when none are under the age of 18 anymore.

by Anonymousreply 286August 18, 2022 3:01 PM

R283, Brad and his PR needs to realize it’s not the 90’s and 00’s anymore. He can’t just explain through the tabloids and ET by sources. People get their information by social media were they don’t even research facts. So many get influenced and brainwashed and it can be dangerous. He really needs to pull a Johnny to win the digital age and leak his version of events.

by Anonymousreply 287August 18, 2022 3:02 PM

The Katrina lawsuit was to be expected. His heart was in the right place but he didn't know enough about the situation to get that involved, and others screwed up with their poor planning and terrible home designs. He's usually quite good about business matters but he very much screwed that one up.

by Anonymousreply 288August 18, 2022 3:03 PM

I don't agree that Brad needs to do some crappy Twitter PR campaign. The last thing he should do is "pull a Johnny Depp" because the comparisons being made to him and Depp are already out there: abusive, using the courts to bully innocent women, etc. Yes, I know it's insane, but it's what's happening. He needs to behave in the exact opposite way as Depp would have. Anything he says against Jolie, even if true, even if proven, is going to be taken as more abuse.

Besides, it's not like people who get their info from tabloids "research their facts" any more than those who get their info from Twitter do. That's not the group of people he needs to convince. Those people are going to believe whatever crazy story they're fed, no matter what.

If he was smart, he'd realize that he fought hard enough for his kids already, and it's over. He should quietly drop the custody case now while it's in limbo anyway, and work with smart business attorneys to get the Stoli situation straightened out without suing Jolie over it. He can stay out of the public eye for six months and come back and no one will remember much of any of this.

by Anonymousreply 289August 18, 2022 3:16 PM

Meanwhile, Jennifer Aniston's probably vacationing on some exotic beach covered in suntan oil and drinking margaritas. She's not saving the world or raising a brood of self-actualized children like Brad and Angelina, but at least she's who she claims to be.

by Anonymousreply 290August 18, 2022 3:22 PM

And R290 Aniston has a circle of good friends, which Jolie lacks.

by Anonymousreply 291August 18, 2022 3:34 PM

Agree w the assessment upthread about Meet Joe Black.

Stink-o!

by Anonymousreply 292August 18, 2022 4:01 PM

Oh no, Twitter is against Brad! That's really meaningful since the majority of public lives and dies by the inane musings of the attention whores of Twitterati. Whatever shall Brad do? /s

Oh, that's right, count all the money he's swimming in and enjoy the love and admiration of his industry.

by Anonymousreply 293August 18, 2022 4:03 PM

I don't undestand the interest in these two or why she keeps dragging this shit out. She just comes across as a spiteful, petty bitch at this point. Her drooling fans are the same fraus who read trashy gossip rags and hate Meghan Markle.

I've seen exactly two films starring each one of them.

Him: Thelma and Louise, that first oceans movie.

Her: Gia and Maleficent.

Impressions for both were meh.

by Anonymousreply 294August 18, 2022 4:54 PM

He said HER kid. why doesn't he say OUR kid?

I know he didn't adopt all of them but aren't you supposed to love them like your own? that's the part i didn't like

by Anonymousreply 295August 18, 2022 4:59 PM

Uh no, R294, her fans LOVE Meghan Markle. They all congregate at Celebitchy, Lainey, and Just Jared to worship their idols. See above where one of her fans linked to a post from that plastic surgery reject, Omid Scobie.

by Anonymousreply 296August 18, 2022 5:10 PM

R295, are you referring to the Daily Mail headline? Who knows why they worded it that way, it doesn't seem to be a direct quote.

by Anonymousreply 297August 18, 2022 5:20 PM

Brad meant that smirking ugly Cambodian kid, who will continue to live with Jolie and be her "helper". He seems to have quickly dropped out of "college" (even with Covid you can enroll and learn via remote learning; he is not doing this).

The other less ugly Asian kid is also glummed onto to this freak for his life as well.

The bio kids and Zahara will be fine.

by Anonymousreply 298August 18, 2022 6:30 PM

[Quote]He said HER kid. why doesn't he say OUR kid?

I thought Pitt adopted all 3 children, no?

My mom also referred to us as "your" children whenever she had an argument with my father. It's just something parents do when they're angry. My parents also often had heated arguments, but my father never shoved my mom no matter how angry he was. Getting physical and pushing and shoving your partner during an argument is a huge red flag and big no so I have mixed feelings about this.

by Anonymousreply 299August 18, 2022 6:33 PM

I fear Angelnino

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by Anonymousreply 300August 18, 2022 6:34 PM

How does the Stoli deal help the kids with their inheritance? If she wasn't so fucking blinded by hate, she would have either sold to Brad or kept her shares. That business is making buckets of money. Where is she going to invest and get a better return?

I'll bet the cunt is running low on money.

by Anonymousreply 301August 18, 2022 6:38 PM

How much did she get for the Stoli deal? She probably needs the cash now and doesn't care about her kids inheritance. She must be pissed that Brad just dropped $40 million on that strange Carmel mansion and her sources are slowly drying up.

by Anonymousreply 302August 18, 2022 6:46 PM

Like her pussy dried up 10 years ago.

by Anonymousreply 303August 18, 2022 6:47 PM

If that helps you.

by Anonymousreply 304August 18, 2022 6:50 PM

The "leaked" reports also document Angelina being violent towards Brad, grabbing him by the head/putting him in a headlock and scratching him. Of course, since we only have her testimony to go on, she frames this violence as in defense of the children, she thought he was headed towards Maddox etc.

So, just to be clear, violence is never OK, except when it is OK because someone says they did it for a good reason. How handy that Angelina's violence will now be excused and Brad's condemned.

Also, R296 is right, the Venn diagram of the Megan Markle Defense league and the Angeloonies is basically a circle.

by Anonymousreply 305August 18, 2022 6:51 PM

Is Brad’s new Carmel mansion strange?

by Anonymousreply 306August 18, 2022 7:19 PM

This ordeal is so messy and hate-fueled. Angelina thinks she’s helping women all over but her rage is taking over. She’s so mad that he’s so popular. She wants to ruin him. They both should be cancelled.

by Anonymousreply 307August 18, 2022 7:27 PM

If a woman managed to put me in a headlock, I’d off myself.

by Anonymousreply 308August 18, 2022 7:27 PM

Brad's new house is fabulous. I'd kill for it.

by Anonymousreply 309August 18, 2022 7:36 PM

[quote] Oh, that's right, count all the money he's swimming in and enjoy the love and admiration of his industry.

Well that's the most important thing!

by Anonymousreply 310August 18, 2022 7:36 PM

Just remember this is all Jolie's version and quotes.

And still she is telling on herself. Her violence, her paranoia. We finally learn she was also drinking. Does anyone not understand how that clouds your perception of events and your memory?

She wants to get at what the kids and other witnesses said and I can't see the FBI giving them to her. That is exactly why investigative files stay sealed from public. To protect those people who gave witness. Future witnesses would be terrified to come forward if everything they told law enforcement was available to vengeful people with an agenda. It's already hard enough to get people to talk.

I love the poster here who think s the world has turned on Pitt because there are people bad mouthing him on twitter. That's some agenda you're pushing. Are you coming here from Celebitchy by any chance?

Most people who side with Pitt aren't crazy stans furiously typing away on twitter.

by Anonymousreply 311August 18, 2022 7:36 PM

I wonder if Brad’s scratches is around his neck? Angelina could have actually killed Brad with that chokehold. BLM stage protest because cops have killed with that technique. She also admitted to the injury and it can be used in the courts..

by Anonymousreply 312August 18, 2022 7:37 PM

r311 I'm not a fan of Jolie or Pitt, dumbass. I hope they destroy each other War of the Roses style. I'm posting those to show the reaction that's going around. You and 98% of this thread are FemaleFirst fraus that have now invaded DL because the forums there now require you to register.

by Anonymousreply 313August 18, 2022 7:42 PM

R313, you're as crazy as Angelina.

by Anonymousreply 314August 18, 2022 7:48 PM

r314 Keep going with your conspiracy theories, you fucking loser. 🤣

by Anonymousreply 315August 18, 2022 7:51 PM

I spy with my little eye a Jolie stan. LOL ^^^

[quote]I wonder if Brad’s scratches is around his neck? Angelina could have actually killed Brad with that chokehold. BLM stage protest because cops have killed with that technique.

I can see it now. Brad Pitt as the George Floyd of Hollywood. Angelia as Derek Chauvin.

by Anonymousreply 316August 18, 2022 7:57 PM

Jesus Christ. These FemaleFirst fuckwads have ruined this thread.

by Anonymousreply 317August 18, 2022 8:01 PM

What is FemaleFurst?

by Anonymousreply 318August 18, 2022 8:09 PM

That idiot is blocked.

by Anonymousreply 319August 18, 2022 8:27 PM

That's the point, R310. That is what is most important to Jolie. She doesn't give two shits about her props, er kids, any more than she cares about her humanitarian causes (photo ops). It's all a façade for getting money and adoration. She pissed what she most wanted away because she couldn't keep the crazy tamped down to a manageable level.

Cash and industry respect are probably also important to Pitt, but he continues to succeed because he has authentic interests that are not dominated by chasing cash or glory. As another posted noted above, he continues to improve his acting. He is genuinely interested in advancing the filming industry. He has friends. He has decades long interests (architecture, wine). In summary, he has an inner life. Jolie has what? An empty hole where her soul should be and a smack habit?

by Anonymousreply 320August 18, 2022 8:54 PM

Much juicier...

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by Anonymousreply 321August 18, 2022 9:12 PM

Brad is far from a saint, and is probably guilty to some degree, but Angie is truly deranged. BPD women make for horrific mothers. It's always been clear that her multiracial adoption, like her activism, has more to do with her image than genuine altruism or maternal instinct. It would be typical of a BPD case to manipulate the boys to take care of/protect/serve mommy, while offloading/projecting her issues onto the girls in some way. Hopefully I'm too cynical, and the children have had some semblance of a decent childhood, but she really doesn't seem healthy.

by Anonymousreply 322August 18, 2022 11:07 PM

As someone else noted on a previous thread, Brad is a Labrador in human former; he’s copped to being a messy drunk, but no one besides twitter loons genuinely believes he’s a cretinous loon like Depp. In the long term, this has to hurt AJ

by Anonymousreply 323August 19, 2022 12:45 AM

I predict she'll have a major meltdown in about 4 years when the kids head off to college and she can't work the Earth mother schtick anymore. She's defined herself by that role since her early 30s when she transitioned from the crazy sexpot thing. Now she's just crazy.

She'll probably always have Pax and Maddox, but the four younger kids would do well to get as far away from her as possible. Especially Shiloh, who's stunning even at 16 and could easily walk into an A-list acting career with just the tiniest bit of effort. Angie is going to fuck up the girl's life if Shiloh lets her.

by Anonymousreply 324August 19, 2022 1:31 AM

What WILL she do with herself in four years--or even two years, really--when the custody thing is a total non-issue and she can take the kids wherever she wants? What will Angie do if some of her kids say "I don't want to go to fucking Africa. I'm going to Coachella with my friends" or "I don't want your old dresses, thanks" or "Dad's really not that bad, and I'm going to work for his production company"?

She's going to lose her damn mind.

by Anonymousreply 325August 19, 2022 1:35 AM

She’ll be in the UK with a top political job.

by Anonymousreply 326August 19, 2022 1:42 AM

Angelina's problem is that Brad has the fans on his side. He's taking it slow because he knows they'll never leave him. Angelina has few fans and engages in lawsuits she can't win.

by Anonymousreply 327August 19, 2022 1:49 AM

She will adopt more kids, of course. I thought she was already shopping Ukraine. More children of color. A physically handicapped one like Mia did might be a vibe, as well. And definitely a trans. kid who has been rejected by a family. More kids, more kids. Why not? Madonna is 60 & has youngish ones. She parades them & get press. Jolie will do the same.

by Anonymousreply 328August 19, 2022 1:50 AM

I found this comment from Dlisted and it’s much more juicy apparently Brad is bi:

“I lived in Vegas for 20 + years so I will share my not so blind Brad Pitt story. I used to be good friends with the manager at Las Vegas’ most popular gay nightclub. Pitt came in with Vin Deisel to the club and got a private room on the second floor. This was around 2009. He railed like a mo fo. Then they asked their guards to leave them alone in the room. So...... 2 rumors here, one that he likes the smashy smashy and secondly he is indeed bi. Believe it or not:)“

by Anonymousreply 329August 19, 2022 1:54 AM

I know the winery was a long term investment for Brad, but I hope when he finally sells it will be for 10 times whatever the cunt got.

by Anonymousreply 330August 19, 2022 1:55 AM

Railed?

by Anonymousreply 331August 19, 2022 1:55 AM

All the gay clubs in Vegas are shit holes- I don't believe that story.

by Anonymousreply 332August 19, 2022 2:01 AM

This has gone nuclear. What's going to happen next?

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by Anonymousreply 333August 19, 2022 2:10 AM

What is "smashy-smashy?"

by Anonymousreply 334August 19, 2022 2:16 AM

Those images of the "injuries" - wtf, why do they look like that? The quality is so poor they look like someone drew them.

She's obviously trying to destroy him. Someone mentioned this upthread but I wonder if the recent photos of him looking chilled and happy on the red carpets for Bullet Train triggered the fuck out of her BPD? If you read the leaked reports (again, solely her OWN testimony is included) with an eye to the whole picture, it just looks like a couple who hated each other getting into a screaming + shoving match. She says one of the injuries she sustained was from Brad attempting to throw her off him when she had him in a headlock! Just sounds like a fucking messy fight to me, and she's trying to turn it, in the public's eyes, into some kind of long-term brutal physical abuse situation.

I don't think it's going to work. Social media (i.e. Twitter) is going to do it's BELIEVE WOMEN!!!!11!! thing but outside of the small bubble most people just see through Jolie and people like her. If she really cared about those children she wouldn't be publicly trying to destroy their dad.

by Anonymousreply 335August 19, 2022 2:25 AM

Is Twitter even that big anymore? Thought it went the way of Facebook, yesterdays SM. As in our of fashion, only for the old folk & the unhip. Thought its all Instagram & Tik Tok now.

by Anonymousreply 336August 19, 2022 2:45 AM

Twitter is where the painfully, self-consciously woke virtue signalers hang out. And i say that as a left wing progressive who cannot fucking stand that crowd. If you look t the stats it's also clearly the lowest-engagement social media platform out there.

by Anonymousreply 337August 19, 2022 2:50 AM

Twitter constitutes a tiny percentage of the population--it's really not a good mirror of reality. Baby Boomers and Gen Z don't use it, so it's grouchy Xers and whiny Millennials--it would be nice if the professional media quit pretending it was more than that.

I've always enjoyed following the travails of Pitt and Jolie--but I gotta say this strikes me as a nothingburger. Everyone knew there was a big fight on the plane, the marriage broke up and Pitt sought treatment. There's really nothing new here that changes the general arc of the narrative.

Hollywood likes Pitt better than Angie and Pitt's fans really aren't going to care about this. Anyone with any kind of life experience knows that break-ups are messy.

At this point, I'm more interested in how the kids do--the bio kids mostly since we've established that Mad and Pax are college drop-outs employed by mom, while Zahara is off to Spellman and will no longer have to be the only Black girl in the room.

Shiloh's kind of the question mark as she's the one who got the genuine movie star looks and it's not clear that Angelina will take well to being outshone by her daughter. Doesn't help that Shiloh looks so much like Pitt.

by Anonymousreply 338August 19, 2022 4:42 AM

Brad Pitt was never the marrying kind to begin with.

By all accounts, he's a bit of a loner.

Getting stuck with Jolie and all those brats was a recipe for disaster. Hope he learned his lesson.

by Anonymousreply 339August 19, 2022 4:50 AM

The Angelina stans have mentioned Maddox have move to NYC and is attending some type of sister University of Yonsei.

by Anonymousreply 340August 19, 2022 4:52 AM

I predict a lot of sanctimonious op eds from outlets like Daily beast and slate & co lecturing us about how we must Love Support and Revere Angie. I agree about Twitter and the media living in a strange bubble. The vast majority of people look at the Angie/ Brad split and see another 2 rich dilettantes who went their separate ways. Shrug, who cares? Except for the gossip value of course. Only in the weird cluster b minds of the twiterati and journalists under about 40 is this an epic battle between the innocent Angie and the monster Brad. It's not possible that the truth might lie somewhere in between. Maybe they're both assholes?Someday someone will write a sociology thesis about the trend of moralism in celeb gossip coverage. And don't tell me it's about concern for abused women because the media doesn't give 2 shits if the woman in question isn't a Hollywood actress.

by Anonymousreply 341August 19, 2022 5:15 AM

The youngest daughter, Vivienne, looks like Amy Sedaris.

Angie has the same cheshire cat grin as Meghan Sussex.

Brad is obviously monumentally stupid to have gotten involved with this well known nutcase. And then having a passel of kids with her to boot. The kids aren't even cute. I just don't feel sorry for him what with him being so stupid.

by Anonymousreply 342August 19, 2022 5:28 AM

Brad is not stupid, enough with that. He followed his dick like most men. Unfortunately, the woman was a crazy viper.

by Anonymousreply 343August 19, 2022 5:43 AM

r343, you don't get to dictate what my opinion should be. This isn't Twitter.

by Anonymousreply 344August 19, 2022 5:47 AM

R344, he has multiple successful businesses worth 100s of millions, and a vast prime real estate portfolio. And you?

by Anonymousreply 345August 19, 2022 5:55 AM

Angelina used to make out with her brother. Brad definitely should have been able to read those warning signs.

by Anonymousreply 346August 19, 2022 6:00 AM

How do you even know her kid isn't in college? Did you call up every college's registrar's office?

by Anonymousreply 347August 19, 2022 6:02 AM

[quote]Photos of Angelina Jolie’s alleged bruises from Brad Pitt during horror flight revealed

It's now a "horror flight"? This is going much better for Angelina than she could have imagined.

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by Anonymousreply 348August 19, 2022 6:25 AM

Horror flight lol

by Anonymousreply 349August 19, 2022 6:36 AM

All that's missing is the blood hounds snappin' at her rear end.

by Anonymousreply 350August 19, 2022 6:41 AM

Christ, Zahara must be so glad to be starting her own life right now.

by Anonymousreply 351August 19, 2022 6:44 AM

When Angelina gave those post-divorce interviews from her new home, dressed in a caftan, whispering about how her vulnerable children are helping her heal, and how she she has 2 kids, a cat, a lizard and a sheep piled into her bed at night, I thought one of those kids she’s co-sleeping with is Maddox.

by Anonymousreply 352August 19, 2022 6:49 AM

She is making a fool of herself. The injuries are hilariously nothing and she caused them to herself.

She shamefully forced the kids to write some kind of journal to say things against their father and probably how "traumatized" it all made them. She sent that to the FBI as if that matters in deciding whether a crime has been committed. Now she has manipulated it so she can publicize what these children said 6 years ago.

I have no idea what she hopes to accomplish with all this except another attempt to destroy Pitt which will also fail.

Parents argue and kids witness it. Who the fuck gets traumatized over it unless someone keeps shoving your face in it and tries to force you to keep re=experiencing it every chance they get. And in the process robs you of the other parent in your life.

All she has is HER statement to the FBI, the FBI's summation of HER statement, the photos SHE took of her little marks - as yet unauthenticated - and the "journal" entries she forced her children to write (which I argue is evidence of Parental Alienation) to try to get their father arrested.

She is really a POS. The FBI must be laughing their asses off at her.

by Anonymousreply 353August 19, 2022 6:52 AM

Kinda interested in seeing his injuries since apparently he had some too

R353 Well, she already got yelled at for parental alienation before

by Anonymousreply 354August 19, 2022 7:19 AM

Can you imagine how much it would suck to be the pilot during that flight? Trying to get from France to L.A. while 2 drunk dipshits go at it. Too bad there were no flight attendants to restrain them with tape or whatever they have to improvise now.

by Anonymousreply 355August 19, 2022 7:24 AM

R347 Oh please, like Angie's PR firm wouldn't let us know? I mean, the big deal that's being made over Spelman (which has a 53 percent admit rate) being an elite school is just cringeworthy.

We don't hear about what the two older boys are doing because they're not doing much. And it's not surprising. Jolie never went to college, I'm not sure she finished high school --there's nothing that indicates that there's been any sort of the discipline needed to do well in school and work independently at the college level.

Say what you wil about Mia, those kids went to school.

by Anonymousreply 356August 19, 2022 8:09 AM

I've posted before that Jon tried to fuck me twice, 5 years apart. Apple, tree.

by Anonymousreply 357August 19, 2022 8:13 AM

[quote]Angelina thinks she’s helping women all over

I'm not so sure she does. I guess I don't know how much of this is self-delusion and how much of it is crass manipulation, but I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't have some level of self-awareness about this. That Cheshire grin on her face yesterday really sealed the deal for me, as far as her doing this entirely out of spite and for no other reason.

Those Xeroxed (or poorly scanned) photos of her injuries just look like bruises she got when Brad fought her off him as she had him in the choke hold.

Why are we only getting the FBI statement from her, and not Brad's or other adults on the plane? I know these supposedly came from FOIA requests but does that mean the media is deliberately not publishing Brad's, or are we actually just getting Angelina's copy of the report that she leaked to the media herself?

by Anonymousreply 358August 19, 2022 10:22 AM

R329, what is "smashy smashy"?

by Anonymousreply 359August 19, 2022 12:03 PM

I don't know what that BI means about "smashy smashy" but I'm assuming "railed" means doing rails of coke.

by Anonymousreply 360August 19, 2022 12:05 PM

New witness statements show Brad Pitt may be the villain of the story

Newly released FBI witness documents reveal Jolie reported Pitt as so drunk and aggressive that his six minor children were too scared “to even go to the bathroom” during the long flight from France to LA, “as they would . . . have to pass [Pitt] to get into the restroom.”

Since the FBI file became public on Wednesday, Pitt hasn’t denied anything Jolie’s alleged therein. His people have only said that Jolie, with the release of these docs, is trying “to inflict the most amount of pain on her ex” — a narrative Pitt’s been peddling for the past six years.

But Jolie isn’t the one who released these FBI docs. It was a Politico reporter who came across them back in April, after stumbling across a Freedom of Information Act request filed by an anonymous Jane Doe against the FBI.

Doe — who, yes, is Jolie — had her lawyer request that the FOIA itself be sealed, to protect her children, but a judge ruled against it. Had it been up to Jolie, these docs would never have come to light.

So, to be clear: Angelina Jolie did not leak these documents — which include two damning photos of injuries she sustained during that flight — in a deliberate attempt to hurt Brad Pitt.

It’s time to reconsider who and what we thought we knew, and why we choose to believe the people we do. We most recently saw it with Amber Heard and Johnny Depp — the more beloved figure, the male movie star, taken at his word, while the woman, more complicated, less likable, is maligned, mocked and sometimes worse.

Ever since Pitt and Jolie split, he’s been portrayed as the hapless good guy. Jolie’s been the villain going scorched earth, the wronged woman gone totally, outer-limits, take-no-prisoners insane.

It was an easy characterization to sell. Jolie, after all, is one who infamously wore a vial of blood, who made out with her brother on the red carpet, who spoke of once hiring a hit man to take her out.

Then there’s Pitt, the nice wholesome boy from the Midwest who just happened to become a global megastar.

But remember: Brad Pitt was such a nice guy that he had no problem demonizing Jennifer Aniston after he left her for Jolie. Aniston, who never really hit him back, who never said a bad word about him, and who let Pitt use her halo effect when he was campaigning for an Oscar in 2019. Aniston, whom Pitt left humiliated in the press — the plain sitcom star who couldn’t stand a chance against the glamazon-sexpot-adoptive-mother-UN-worker-movie-star Jolie.

Nope, that wasn’t enough. Pitt had to double, triple, quadruple down. He called Aniston boring. He blamed her for his issues with pot. He led the public to believe she was a vain, selfish career woman denying him the babies he so longed for.

As Pitt told Parade magazine in 2011, “I was intent on trying to find a movie about an interesting life, but I wasn’t living an interesting life myself. I think that my marriage [to actress Jennifer Aniston] had something to do with it. Trying to pretend the marriage was something that it wasn’t.”

Pitt’s also the same guy who wouldn’t — until Thursday, ahem — fix all those houses he built for Katrina victims — you know, the ones clogged with mold or otherwise in major disrepair.

Yet people still loved him, and love him they will. You can see it already online, people blaming Jolie for this leak, defending Pitt’s actions as surely a one-time thing, an aberrance, and really, not that bad.

His actions are that bad.

Pitt, Jolie says in her witness statement, compared one of their children to “a f—ing Columbine kid,” assaulted her in the bathroom and punched the plane’s ceiling multiple times as two of their children cried outside the bathroom door.

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by Anonymousreply 361August 19, 2022 12:07 PM

‘Crazy’ talk a la Heard

As anyone who has ever lived through domestic violence can attest, this is harrowing stuff. There’s nothing to minimize or excuse here.

When Jolie emerged from the bathroom, she says her children asked if she was OK. Pitt, Jolie says, pushed her as she bent down to hug them, yelling, “No, mommy’s not OK. She’s ruining this family. She’s crazy.”

Crazy. Nothing like that word to dismiss or demonize a troublesome woman. Just ask Amber Heard.

There’s good reason to believe Jolie. All six of their children were witnesses, as were on-board staff. It’s safe to assume they all saw Pitt lunge at son Maddox, as Jolie says here, that they saw Pitt fling Jolie like a rag doll when she attempted to intervene, and that they heard Pitt call her a bitch. That they all saw and heard Pitt stalk up and down the aisle, exploding every half hour or so as he drank and terrorized the children.

Affable Brad Pitt, who got a standing ovation at the Golden Globes a few months later — Hollywood showing all their support, the media following suit, as did tabloids and Twitter, everyone blindly believing there was no way, no possible way, Pitt could have done anything like this

Maybe next time we won’t be so quick to choose sides. Maybe next time we won’t be so quick to demonize the women in these scenarios.

And maybe we’re beginning to wonder if, over the past six years, Brad Pitt hasn’t given us the best performance of his life.

by Anonymousreply 362August 19, 2022 12:08 PM

Doing press for Bullet Train in South Korea. Look how handsome he is. Brad Pitt will never not be good-looking.

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by Anonymousreply 363August 19, 2022 12:14 PM

she put him in a headlock coz he was going after one of the kids, he screamed at them during the flight.

by Anonymousreply 364August 19, 2022 12:14 PM

is that his real hair?

by Anonymousreply 365August 19, 2022 12:15 PM

[quote]New witness statements

There weren't any new witness statements, it's all Jolie's statements and no one else's.

Again, I know we're being told Jolie didn't release these, but why are ONLY her statements in this file? A FOIA request would give you other statements too, not just hers. This really looks like we're getting only her copy of the report with her statements, rather than the entire FOIA file.

by Anonymousreply 366August 19, 2022 12:22 PM

[quote] Newly released FBI witness documents reveal Jolie reported Pitt as so drunk and aggressive that his six minor children were too scared “to even go to the bathroom” during the long flight from France to LA, “as they would . . . have to pass [Pitt] to get into the restroom.”

He probably was drunk and aggressive. She has established over and over he was drunk and aggressive. Brad has not denied being a drunk. That is not the point to me. The point is he no longer drinks, got therapy, had supervised visits with the kids until the court was satisfied he no longer needed to be monitored and six fucking years later we are still hearing about this fucking incident on the plane. She is waging a war against him out of spite and it’s obvious. If the kids can’t “heal” it’s because Angelina won’t let them move the fuck on.

by Anonymousreply 367August 19, 2022 12:22 PM

Ahn-zhay as Minister for the Department of Social Affairs and Citizenship!!

by Anonymousreply 368August 19, 2022 12:25 PM

[quote]There’s good reason to believe Jolie. All six of their children were witnesses, as were on-board staff.

The staff we haven't heard statements from? That staff? The staff you just implied said Brad was abusing those kids, when we don't actually know WHAT they said?

It's so frustrating to see the media deliberately mislead people.

by Anonymousreply 369August 19, 2022 12:27 PM

I guess the Rapper Boy Toy bit a few months ago didn't give her the attention, cred or admiration she wanted. Nor did her dancing with POC at Spellman(taking the attention from Zara, BTW) give her enough. So, onto the next. Empty, souless thing she is.

Wonder who she thinks is flocking to her side. Not men anymore for sure, not with those screw on tits, bitter face, a zillion horrible kids, & a nasty mouth that won't stop.. Not women, who love Brad. Not Hollywood. She & Daddy dearest are the worst advert for the industry. See blood vials around neck & tongue kissing with your biological brother at the Oscars. She was tolerated as long as she could make them dough. She has no cash value anymore. So, guess it's still The hopelessly undateable fraus who are on her side. Hell, she always had them.

She should have waited a bit to stoke this shit up, yet again. Angie, baby, too soon after Amber. Timing is everythng. You are now in the Crazy, Bitter Frau Whose Name Starts with 'A' Bin. Its in the discount basement area in that dark corner to the left of the used cat litter.

by Anonymousreply 370August 19, 2022 12:28 PM

He never denied being a shitty drunk on the plane. the only thing he denied was ever hitting one of his kids, turn out he didn't. And even with all this mess he still didn't lose custody of the kids (and the stupid custody thing is still on going) and at one time the psychologist of those very traumatized children said he should get 50/50 custody. He's not drinking now and it's been 6 years. Angelina was totally right to end the marriage and protect her kids. It's just her behavior after, including parental alienation, is the problem.

My dad had some drunk shitty behavior at times growing up, so I understand it and remember it, but it also doesn't mean I didn't ever want to be around him when he got sober.

by Anonymousreply 371August 19, 2022 12:28 PM

But Jolie isn’t the one who released these FBI docs. It was a Politico reporter who came across them back in April, after stumbling across a Freedom of Information Act request filed by an anonymous Jane Doe against the FBI.

Doe — who, yes, is Jolie — had her lawyer request that the FOIA itself be sealed, to protect her children, but a judge ruled against it. Had it been up to Jolie, these docs would never have come to light.

r361, I take no issue with the rest of your post.

The above, however, doesn't add-up. If the documents already were sealed, that would suit Jolie's purpose. After all, you're stating Jolie is "Jane Doe".

by Anonymousreply 372August 19, 2022 12:32 PM

[quote] But Jolie isn’t the one who released these FBI docs. It was a Politico reporter who came across them back in April, after stumbling across a Freedom of Information Act request filed by an anonymous Jane Doe against the FBI.

Doe — who, yes, is Jolie — had her lawyer request that the FOIA itself be sealed, to protect her children, but a judge ruled against it. Had it been up to Jolie, these docs would never have come to light.

ooops, I meant to set this off in quotes at r372

by Anonymousreply 373August 19, 2022 12:33 PM

She asked that her own FOIA request for the documents, which was part of her lawsuit against the FBI, be sealed.

That's not the same thing as asking for the documents themselves to be sealed.

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by Anonymousreply 374August 19, 2022 12:38 PM

He is a shitty drunk asshole and I know what's it like to live with someone who is fucked up all the time. They are selfish cunts who only think about themselves and nobody else.

He may be sober now but who knows what's he's gonna be like 6 months down the line? You don't know and his PR ain't gonna tell you he fell off the wagon.

When you commit a crime when under the influence, you are still guilty. You can't tell the judge," but I was drunk! I didn't mean it! That's not the real me. I am a good person and love everyone!" You still have to do the time.

by Anonymousreply 375August 19, 2022 1:02 PM

He probably denied hitting the kids coz he doesn't remember doing it coz he was so wasted. Wouldn't surprise me.

That's what they all say...I don't remember doing that. I was drunk, I didn't mean it etc etc etc

by Anonymousreply 376August 19, 2022 1:03 PM

Little Miss "Coz," even Jolie's own statement says he didn't hit the kids.

And he hasn't been convicted of a crime, either, ladies.

by Anonymousreply 377August 19, 2022 1:17 PM

R375 you might have a point if this was 6 years ago. He already did all the shit required of him with the courts and seems to be sober for awhile. And are we are going to act like Angie isn't a recovering drug addict herself.

Apparently there was no crime committed as well.

by Anonymousreply 378August 19, 2022 1:22 PM

Jolie is a heroin addict. I would take a reformed addict over her junkie ass.

by Anonymousreply 379August 19, 2022 3:31 PM

I would pay serious money to see a transcript of just one of their date conversations in the early days.

Comedy gold!

by Anonymousreply 380August 19, 2022 4:00 PM

[quote]How do you even know her kid isn't in college? Did you call up every college's registrar's office?

Well, for one the college is in S Korea and the ugly Cambodian is in Europe serving as an assistant to Mommie Dearest on the film she is currently directing. She has gone on the press saying that the Cambodian has some sort of title and is working on the film.

Hard to be going to college in S Korea and working on a film in Europe at the same time, no?

by Anonymousreply 381August 19, 2022 4:59 PM

^ meant to add that S Korea does not follow the US college schedule. Uni goes from March to Aug-Sept there.

by Anonymousreply 382August 19, 2022 5:01 PM

Maddox is supposedly going to the New York campus of the South Korean school (whose name escapes me) but yes, he and Pax are both working on her current film with her, which obviously means they are not going to college at the moment.

by Anonymousreply 383August 19, 2022 5:02 PM

Hard to believe they've been separated for years, so much has changed in the world

by Anonymousreply 384August 19, 2022 5:33 PM

She said he can drink a whole bottle of vodka and still function, you don't get to be this way overnight. I bet she was putting up with his drunk ass for a long time.

He has also admitted to being able to drink more vodka than a Russian.

I believe that Vegas story about him

by Anonymousreply 385August 19, 2022 6:03 PM

She said...she said...blah blah blah...FBI said no evidence to support prosecution. I believe the FBI over that Cluster B idiot.

by Anonymousreply 386August 19, 2022 6:51 PM

All of these bitches are boring and unlikable.

Wrap it up, already!

by Anonymousreply 387August 19, 2022 6:57 PM

Aniston was classy to support him amid the dv allegations by being photographed embracing him on the red carpet

by Anonymousreply 388August 19, 2022 7:01 PM

Don't think the marriage ended badly. They seemed friendly enough. I'm sure Jen just thought he was a moron for getting involved with Angelina. And Gwyneth supported him too and they were talking to each other saying how much they love each other and she was super glowing about him. Though Gwyneth saying what a wonderful person he was really pissed off Angelina.

by Anonymousreply 389August 19, 2022 7:13 PM

A lot it's been said about this incident, but what isn't said it's what make people like me take sides, that's Brad's version. Angelina is willing to traumatize her kids for years and tell the world about this, no stop, but Brad is just protecting them by not making a scandal, not his version or lies, nothing. I guess his PR is just people not saying anything? Please tell me where I sign for that job.

He is not the parent showing them around like no other kids in the world. He is not the parent who, on her own words, its making their kids take care of her and her mental health issues. King Solomon metaphor apply here perfectly, she is letting the King cut the baby in halt as long as she is right.

by Anonymousreply 390August 19, 2022 7:18 PM

I said on one of these threads, given JA tensing up every time Brad was mentioned in the Friends exit interviews, the marriage was probably long over before it was announced. Does anyone remember they vacationed with CC and a group of other friends a week before they announced the split? It might have actually been after. I was weird. I think Jennifer was more bitter/upset about the narrative being Angelina stole Brad away and B&A sort of went with it and seemingly rubbed in Jennifer’s face. Jennifer seems to have long gotten over it though.

by Anonymousreply 391August 19, 2022 7:28 PM

*it was weird ^

by Anonymousreply 392August 19, 2022 7:31 PM

What is the issue with Brad saying one of their children was like “A f—ing Columbine kid”? He could have been referring to any number of things like dress, demeanor, possible maudlin interests or anti-social behavior. That’s not untypical of what many concerned fathers might say about their children. Don’t we want parents to be on the alert for these kind of signs? As well, Brad comes from a Midwestern middle class family and it’s possible he has different ideas about child-rearing that what AJ experienced in her Hollywood childhood.

by Anonymousreply 393August 19, 2022 8:27 PM

Untypical = Atypical

by Anonymousreply 394August 19, 2022 8:29 PM

R393, one of the sites said that Brad followed the columbine comment up saying he (assuming Maddox) was going to kill someone. I actually think that’s sort of responsible parenting, though he shouldn’t have said it in front of the kids. But how many of these parents ignore warning signs when their kid goes and shoots up a school? That article saying Maddox stayed in his hotel room in NYC and played video games last summer was sort of telling that Brad was onto something back then.

by Anonymousreply 395August 19, 2022 8:39 PM

R389 I don't think Aniston bears him any malice, she's over it. I wish she had done more with her chances to develop a better career

by Anonymousreply 396August 19, 2022 8:42 PM

Yes, Angelina is such a horrible mother🙄 That's why her kids are in college and not falling down drunk in clubs like many celeb kids. Face it. If Brad Pitt was raising them, they would be spoiled little brats. And he'd probably be beating up the adopted boys.

by Anonymousreply 397August 19, 2022 8:53 PM

Brad and Angelina are just assholes. Even if the marriage was over, they could have just waited a couple of months before going public. Their "affair" was all over media and created a narrative that must have hurt Aniston deeply. They also moved right on with the adoptions and pregnancy. Why not wait till they were legally separated and divorced? Aniston was stuck with the narrative that he left her for a hotter woman and the comparison of her (boring) single life and his child army for years. Courtney Cox was right when she said Brad was lacking a sensitivity chip. He just didn't care much about Aniston and the fallout and just moved on with his crazy bitch. I'm surprised BP and JA are still friendly and she even invites him to her Christmas parties.

by Anonymousreply 398August 19, 2022 9:18 PM

Aniston is just trying to save face, so as not to look bitter. I doubt she likes him after everything that happened.

by Anonymousreply 399August 19, 2022 9:31 PM

^It's called taking the high road. Know it is probably an antiquated concept. But hell, it has served her well. Brangelina still look bad all these years on. And that delightful stank still clings to them. Lowlife, grubby, nasty. Smart Girl Aniston, smart.

Jenn keeps private what is private & is the darling because of it. Ang always remembered for vials of blood & being incestuous with brother darling.

by Anonymousreply 400August 19, 2022 9:37 PM

[quote] That's why her kids are in college and not falling down drunk in clubs like many celeb kids.

Their kids - not hers.

Only one is in college we know of at present. And the oldest was already outed by fellow students as having been acting up in clubs overseas and getting arrested.

by Anonymousreply 401August 19, 2022 9:48 PM

So just by reading between the lines in this redacted FBI report, is it fair to say that these two completely disagree on how to raise & rear children?

The Columbine kid remark is very telling. It is a shame that comment made it out to the media.

I’m guessing the oldest child was presenting signs that worried his father, & his mom believed the kid would eventually grow out of whatever concerned his dad.

This is probably what initiated this private jet drama, & it sounds like it was an ongoing situation, that neither parent could agree upon, on how to handle it.

For whatever reasons, both of these people lost control of the concept of raising a family together. One probably felt more powerless than the other, and that added fuel to the fire.

In hindsight, they should have quietly agreed to divorce amicably, and should have agreed upon a therapy treatment plan, to address what was concerning one or both parents, about their child who was presenting as an anti social recluse.

Even worse, this dynamic was triangulated due to the child in question and his siblings, being made to comply to two different sets of rules and acceptable behavior for each parent, rather than the family functioning in a harmonious manner, allowing for transparency without fear of disappointing one parent and hence,, in a child’s mind, betraying the other parent when attempting to engage with both parents, who were unbeknownst to the kids, involved in a huge power struggle.

Children don’t have the tools to analyze this kind of shit when they’re little kids and teens. In the end, someone becomes a bad parent, while the kids rally around the parent they perceive to be victimized.

Hell, even adults have difficulty identifying this and understanding it.

The most important things one needs to know about someone before marrying them, are: How their partner manages money, do they want children, and what their philosophies are about raising kids through every stage of child development.

Sounds tedious, I know, but I bet if people understood these things about each other BEFORE tying the knot, some would choose to not move forward with a wedding, and those who do, would probably have a better chance of making it last.

The eldest child in this saga was inadvertently placed in a HORRIBLE situation. He has ZERO responsibility in any of this, and he was failed for who knows how long, because two people couldn’t agree on much of anything by the time that private jet incident went down.

Totally tragic and not a blame game opportunity. No one won in this scenario. “Winning” isn’t what having a healthy relationship with one’s partner & subsequent family, is about.

by Anonymousreply 402August 21, 2022 1:23 AM

Nobody wants to say out loud that Maddox is actually creepy like one of the Columbine shooters and Pax seems to be under Angie's spell too.

by Anonymousreply 403August 21, 2022 1:32 AM

Yes, those two weirdos are lost causes. They will be living with momma for the next 30 years, her "helpers".

The bio kids will do great, so will Zahara.

by Anonymousreply 404August 21, 2022 1:42 AM

Must be hard for the adopted kids that they're all average looking at best while the bio siblings hit the genetic jackpot and have Brad Pitt genes. At least two of the bio kids will be stunningly beautiful adults. Well, I guess at least the creepy Asian boys are rich now and don't have to live on the streets in Bangladesh anymore.

by Anonymousreply 405August 21, 2022 1:50 AM

Maddox is a little shit, but Pax never had much of a chance. Angelina shouldn't have adopted an older child who didn't speak English when they already had so many kids and then kept having more kids. He was a child who really needs special treatment and more attention.

by Anonymousreply 406August 21, 2022 1:53 AM

[quote] I’m guessing the oldest child was presenting signs that worried his father, & his mom believed the kid would eventually grow out of whatever concerned his dad.

Mom: Oh he'll be fine. I cut myself and my boyfriend for sexual gratification at 14. Then I regularly cut myself to FEEL. Then I hired a hitman to kill me. Then I got hooked on heroin - actually eight balls. Then I pretended to be having an incestuous relationship with my brother to get attention and look cool. Then I . . . well you know the rest. And look at me now, I am fabulous and rich and the whole world loves me.

Dad: Um, I don't know . . .

by Anonymousreply 407August 21, 2022 2:01 AM

There was some differences in how to raise the kids for sure. There were tons of articles about how Brad wanted them to stay in one spot and get an education and she wanted to continue to travel with their "tutors".

by Anonymousreply 408August 21, 2022 2:03 AM

A former nanny said that Brad wanted discipline and rules and AJ did not care about rules and the kids could do whatever they wanted. She said the family life was total chaos.

by Anonymousreply 409August 21, 2022 2:08 AM

There were stories back then that the kids had no discipline and would run amok in hotels destroying things and disturbing people. One thing I read, not sure if it’s true, is that one of the housekeepers said that Brad and Angelina didn’t sleep in the same bedroom as far back as 2010. No idea why the hell they did a Hail Mary and got married.

Maddox looks like a little shit. Very smug and entitled, Pax comes off the same way. The other ones seem more normal. Knox seems to take after Brad and is chill. I do wonder how they get along with Maddox and Pax.

by Anonymousreply 410August 21, 2022 2:21 AM

Kids need rules and a set schedule. Plenty of fun time too, but I don't understand these celeb parents dragging their kids all over the place. Same with Ben and JLo- Paris, New York, a wedding. Even with private planes and help, it sounds exhausting.

by Anonymousreply 411August 21, 2022 2:22 AM

R411, agreed!

by Anonymousreply 412August 21, 2022 2:26 AM

[Quote]One thing I read, not sure if it’s true, is that one of the housekeepers said that Brad and Angelina didn’t sleep in the same bedroom as far back as 2010.

Brad is a gorgeous man but I think he's also a pig who snores, smells and farts in bed.

by Anonymousreply 413August 21, 2022 2:27 AM

r406 Pax is actually the one who has supposedly turned out the most normal. He actually insisted on going to a regular school and making new friends, shunning his mother's insistence on the home schooling she put the rest of them through. With Brad's help, he supposedly enrolled in Notre Dame or one of the other private schools in the Valley a couple of years ago. I don't know if he stayed and finished or not, or if he's college bound like Zahara.

He also supposedly kept ties with Brad's family, specifically his Pitt cousins who he's visited with. It's Maddox who seems to be the real rebel weirdo-Mommy's boy in that clan.

by Anonymousreply 414August 21, 2022 2:32 AM

R414 That's interesting. I hadn't heard any of that. Good if true, but I thought since Angelina told him Brad didn't want him that relationship was probably not on good terms. I'm actually really interested how the kids are in a few years and which one will be seen with Brad first in public as an adult.

by Anonymousreply 415August 21, 2022 2:36 AM

Daily Mail noticed Matt gained weight too, notice they said he will be chowing down. HA!

[quote]Ben Affleck kisses JLo on the steps of his $8.9m Georgia 'plantation' mansion on their wedding day where guests including Matt Damon will chow down on pork chops

by Anonymousreply 416August 21, 2022 2:37 AM

^^^ oops that was meant for the Bennifer wedding thread

by Anonymousreply 417August 21, 2022 2:42 AM

It's really interesting how some people here judge personalities of those kids, who, as far as I am aware, never talked to the press, extremely private and guarded. Maddox and Pax are little shits? Why? And biological kids are awesome, of course. I am sure them being white and beautiful got nothing to do with it.

by Anonymousreply 418August 21, 2022 3:10 AM

BINGO R418!

by Anonymousreply 419August 21, 2022 3:20 AM

[quote]Maddox and Pax are little shits? Why?

Based on what Angelina has said about them and says they're doing, and based on her "your fathers didn't want you but I did" shtick she did on both of them, and based on Maddox's behavior on the plane as reported in the FBI report.

by Anonymousreply 420August 21, 2022 3:21 AM

R420

No. Everything that Angelina said or did proves that she is shit, not her children. And what exactly FBI said about Maddox? Refresh my memory.

by Anonymousreply 421August 21, 2022 3:25 AM

You do know you're posting on a gay GOSSIP board, r418?

by Anonymousreply 422August 21, 2022 3:26 AM

R422

Um, yes? Do you?

by Anonymousreply 423August 21, 2022 3:27 AM

I didn't call Maddox a shit, I told you why people are getting that impression.

by Anonymousreply 424August 21, 2022 3:30 AM

[Quote]And what exactly FBI said about Maddox?

His own father obviously thinks he's a fucking weirdo who could become a mass shooter.

by Anonymousreply 425August 21, 2022 3:30 AM

R425, that's something Jolie is an absolute POS for publicizing. This is why she allegedly shut her father out of HER life for publicly questioning her mental health. He went on TV and said that.

Brad moved heaven and earth to keep that private thought of a concerned father about a teenage son private. And that awful mother - knowing what that would do to her son plus his relationship with his dad - made sure the entire world learned that.

That bitch needs to be cancelled. Just like the FBI cancelled her.

by Anonymousreply 426August 21, 2022 3:37 AM

Her father is a trump supporter, I don't blame her for not wanting anything to do with him!

by Anonymousreply 427August 21, 2022 3:39 AM

Brad was a drunk mess the whole marriage. He was never there to do anything, he was too busy drinking to take notice of anything. The kids being loud, running around etc probably made his hangovers worse so he wanted to discipline them...kids are loud, that's just the way they are.

by Anonymousreply 428August 21, 2022 3:41 AM

R425

Which proves that his father is a piece of shit who knows nothing about parenting and dumb and spiteful enough to blame kid for his marriage issues.

by Anonymousreply 429August 21, 2022 3:42 AM

R418/419, are you seriously that dumb? The entire thread is about the fight on the plane where Brad said Maddox basically had potential to be a school shooter! Of course people of normal intelligence are going to come to the conclusion he’s a shit. You can see it with body language when he’s out with Jolie on her pap runs and the red carpet. There are articles saying he sits in his room all day playing video games alone. Some posters are saying that he got in trouble in South Korea. There is more evidence pointing to him being an ass than not.

by Anonymousreply 430August 21, 2022 3:43 AM

R430

Who Maddox shot? Who did he attack? I don't see anything in the news about Maddox attacking anybody (sorry for not believing all-knowing local gossipers). I just see news about his pretty white goody daddy shaking his mom and being arrested and being violent drunk. Funny, right?

Teenager playing video games? Be still my heart. Now that's a sign of a future serial killer. Video games! Such horror.

by Anonymousreply 431August 21, 2022 3:49 AM

Oh please, many kids get in trouble when they go away to college. it's not a big deal.

by Anonymousreply 432August 21, 2022 3:51 AM

R431 is a walking red flag.

by Anonymousreply 433August 21, 2022 3:52 AM

Brad was never arrested or charged.

by Anonymousreply 434August 21, 2022 3:53 AM

Brad gets drunk every day. That private plane incident is not the first. He can polish off 1 bottled of vodka and still function. He is an addict. Those kind of drunks need to drink everyday.

He claims he's sober now...we'll see how long it lasts.

by Anonymousreply 435August 21, 2022 3:53 AM

I came to conclusion father who says things like that is shit. You see something is happening with your child? Go to therapy with him. Talk to him. Don't compare him to vicious mass killers (who most of the time dressed like typical teenagers from the 90s). Don't blame him for your shitty marriage.

by Anonymousreply 436August 21, 2022 3:54 AM

R433

And you are stupid and lack empathy.

by Anonymousreply 437August 21, 2022 3:55 AM

I know I'm on the DL and have no wish to be the gossip police so I'm not going to admonish anyone for having opinions but as far as I'm concerned we don't know anything about any of the kids - certainly not enough to start labeling them shits or non-shits. If it's true about Maddox and he's some weird recluse then actually that's his parents' fault - mostly his mother's, because it's very obvious from what she's said about him over the years that she's pushed him into a caretaker/parental role - not his.

I've noticed that Shiloh has quite self-conscious, almost shrinking body language (the girl twin as well) which is interesting because she is growing into an absolute stunner and I bet there is some ambiguity in mommy dearest's heart about that.

by Anonymousreply 438August 21, 2022 3:56 AM

It seems like Angelina's going the Mia route of brainwashing the kids and trying the case in the court of public opinion after failing legally.

by Anonymousreply 439August 21, 2022 3:59 AM

[quote]I came to conclusion father who says things like that is shit.

If he said it within earshot of the kid, yeah, that's shitty af. But the other poster is right, it's mommy who is responsible for this being publicized.

Speaking of which, is anyone on earth (not you, stans and Definite Non-Stan Della, we know what you believe) convinced by this strange 'I wanted to see the evidence in order to facilitate my childrens' healing and therapy?' BS from Angelina? I don't buy that for one second. She's behind this. She wanted this info out and now it's out. I'm curious if we'll get any more leaks, possibly from Brad's side, about this.

And what kind of psycho mommy from hell is still acting like her kids are all fucked up by an incident that happened 6 years ago? I'm glad society seems to be at a place where we acknowledge trauma and abuse, and that we often need help in dealing with them, but at a certain point and with certain kinds of people, you have to start wondering if being told you're massively fucked up and damaged and need help etc. is actually preventing healing from taking place.

by Anonymousreply 440August 21, 2022 4:03 AM

And the person bringing race into this can fuck right off. The bio kids (esp Shiloh, who knows how those twins will turn out) are beautiful/will be beautiful because they were born to 2 of the most good looking people on earth, not because they're white ffs.

by Anonymousreply 441August 21, 2022 4:05 AM

R440, kids can be fucked up from having a drunk ass father for years and years and can affect how they pick their future partners in life. They see the way dad treated mom and may think that's OK etc. They learn by example. They absolutely will remember the plane incident for the rest of their lives.

by Anonymousreply 442August 21, 2022 4:07 AM

I don't know how anyone could live with Angiecunt and NOT drink tbh. And I am sure Angie enjoys her red wine too. God knows she never eats. My sister is this same kind of cunt. She will count everyone's drinks when she's on her high horse. But when she wants to party no one can say anything about it. She also smoke pot every day. For her fibro.

by Anonymousreply 443August 21, 2022 4:14 AM

R436, it sounds like he tried and was met with resistance by AJ. Do you really expect a mother who buys her kid knives and believes in letting them do anything they want is going to take warning signs seriously? Brad sounded frustrated. Maddox never viewed him as his father as per reports, so no respect there. It was a losing battle. The plane incident is the only one Angelina references, so yes, this sounds like an isolated incident where he finally exploded.

The bottom line to all this is that those two should’ve split way before they did.

R431, I hope you don’t have any kids. Yikes.

by Anonymousreply 444August 21, 2022 4:15 AM

I literally acknowledged in my post that trauma exists and affects people. And that therapy etc. can help healing. What I'm not convinced of is that having your mother talk publicly about how traumatized you are (and she has implied this multiple times since they split, including this year during a round of publicity for something or other), and using your trauma for sympathy points/to badmouth her ex in public, is conducive to said healing.

Brad sounds like he was a drunken, checked out dad. Angelina sounds like a controlling, emotionally incestuous psycho. I'm sure those kids are fucked up and need years of therapy.

by Anonymousreply 445August 21, 2022 4:17 AM

Oh Angelina is SO that parent, R444. 'Oh my child seems withdrawn and has shown an interest in weapons. To prove how open-minded and what a Cool Mom I am, I'll buy him a set of knives. What could go wrong."

It's always about the parent. How will this make ME look. What does this say about ME etc. The kid is just a prop for the parent's self-involved drama.

by Anonymousreply 446August 21, 2022 4:21 AM

You guys think she got a lot more money bc they were married or did she have to sign a prenup? Brad's net worth is estimated at $300 million. I wonder how much money AJ actually has if she couldn't afford to buy her house without a loan from Pitt. I hope he didn't lose millions because of that 2 year marriage.

by Anonymousreply 447August 21, 2022 4:22 AM

I think one of the reasons AJ is so bitter and bent on destroying Brad could be that she didn't get as much money as she wanted/thought she deserved.

by Anonymousreply 448August 21, 2022 4:26 AM

R442 If Brad acted like that often you know your ass would hear about it. She's been milking the plane incident for 6 damn years. He was 100% a drunk, but seems to have been a high-functioning alcoholic. Of course they'll remember it. Their mother won't let them forget. But just personally, my dad was an alcoholic too and I remember him smacking my mother around growing up. Though I also remember the good times. It's a complicated issue with complicated feelings and Angelina isn't helping things. You can have a relationship with an former alcoholic just fine with time and healing.

She should have acted more like Jen Garner in this situation if she cared about her kids.

by Anonymousreply 449August 21, 2022 4:27 AM

The issue I have with posters here and Lainey types is what do you expect Brad to do? Yeah, he was a drunk who acted inappropriately, but he got help and did what the courts told him to do. Should he never see his kids again because of that one incident? Do you want him to serve jail time? I honestly don’t understand what people want as far as outcome being that this is 6 years later! Sorry, but Angelina is the problem at this point and more abusive than Brad ever was. Anyone who thinks her hand wasn’t in releasing these documents is naive and nuts. Why she is continuing this nonsense is unexplainable at this point. Her vendetta is only hurting her kids. Unfortunately, I think she will continue down this road.

by Anonymousreply 450August 21, 2022 4:37 AM

I wonder if the Jolie-Pitt children are secretly watching Friends. Friends is enormously popular among teenagers and young adults.

by Anonymousreply 451August 21, 2022 4:50 AM

R444

I hope none of you have kids, considering you are obviously older than Jesus with your pearl-clutching about video games.

by Anonymousreply 452August 21, 2022 5:20 AM

R441

It's not about the looks, it's judging of personalities. Let's be honest, we know shit about those kids. They never talked to the press. They are private. But some people here are confident enough to say Maddox and even Pax are shit with no future.

by Anonymousreply 453August 21, 2022 5:24 AM

she's releasing this because he's suing her for the wine biz sale etc.

I wonder if she has other "weapons" to use...

very entertaining.

by Anonymousreply 454August 21, 2022 5:24 AM

[Quote]Let's be honest, we know shit about those kids. They never talked to the press. They are private.

It's a gossip site. Get over it. We also don't know any of the other celebrities we talk about here.

by Anonymousreply 455August 21, 2022 5:29 AM

R455

You are full of shit. Plenty of celebrities we discuss have social media, give interviews, talk to the press. It's something.

by Anonymousreply 456August 21, 2022 5:32 AM

Brad is worth way more than $300 million. Those net worth sites are usually high. Not in this case.

by Anonymousreply 457August 21, 2022 5:32 AM

[QUOTE] The first thing to note is that there was nothing conventional about the experiment in family living conducted by Pitt and Jolie.

[QUOTE] For instance, from an early age, adopted son Maddox had an interest in guns and knives, a passion that Jolie was happy to cultivate.

[QUOTE] In an old interview with W Magazine, the actress said that her own mother had taken her to ‘buy her first daggers when she was 11 or 12,’ adding that she had ‘already bought Maddox some’ from a ‘special shop.’

This was in the Daily Mail today, so I think we know where the Columbine comment was coming from.

by Anonymousreply 458August 21, 2022 7:21 AM

Just read that article, R458, there are some pretty juicy nuggets in there.

[quote]At home there were no rules, except that the children weren’t encouraged to make any friends outside of the family circle...One former nanny, who quit in despair, reportedly said that the children insisted on breakfasting on items like pizza or chocolate, and enjoyed a diet of junk food, particularly Cheetos. A source told DailyMail.com that the nannies varied in number between six and nine, with each having one child as their key responsibility. They were, the insider claimed, rotated every six months to prevent the attachment becoming too settled.

Not being encouraged to make friends outside the family and never being allowed enough time to form an attachment to any of their nannies, as well as living on junk food and being able to determine their own bedtimes (elsewhere in the article) is a whole recipe for fucking a kid up.

And Angelina moved her brother in during the final year of the marriage, allowing the kids to start calling him "Dad."

People commenting on the kids right now, I honestly think it's too early to tell for all of them but none of this bodes well for their futures.

by Anonymousreply 459August 21, 2022 8:00 AM

Article also says Brad is close to Zahara and Shiloh, and that Shiloh likes spending time with him at his new place in Carmel. I foresee serious drama in that mother-daughter relationship. Shiloh is only 16 and already stunning, she is going to be a total social-and-tabloid-media-frenzy-inducing knockout in a few short years - AND a lot more inclined towards doing her own thing. I won't be surprised if Angelina has no ability to deal healthily or rationally with any of that.

I feel sorry for the 2 older boys as well, cast as protectors and bodyguards and alienated from the only father they ever knew by a woman they probably both see as an innocent saint. That shit will fuck you up forever, and a lot of people either never realize it or only realize it when they have their own kids.

by Anonymousreply 460August 21, 2022 8:06 AM

R459, how do you know she allowed the kids to call their uncle, dad?

That’s freakin’ insane, if this is true.

by Anonymousreply 461August 21, 2022 8:42 AM

[quote]I know I'm on the DL and have no wish to be the gossip police so I'm not going to admonish anyone for having opinions but as far as I'm concerned we don't know anything about any of the kids - certainly not enough to start labeling them shits or non-shits.

I don't necessarily disagree on principle, but celebrity kids are called "little shits" on DL all the time. This is not an Angelina hate thing or a race thing; Apple Paltrow, for instance, got much worse when she was younger.

by Anonymousreply 462August 21, 2022 11:14 AM

[quote] Shiloh is only 16 and already stunning, she is going to be a total social-and-tabloid-media-frenz - y-inducing knockout in a few short years - AND a lot more inclined towards doing her own thing. I won't be surprised if Angelina has no ability to deal healthily or rationally with any of that.

I think it was weird but not surprising that when Shiloh went to see Maneskin in concert there was Angelina, right next to her daughter, turning it into a photo-op.

by Anonymousreply 463August 21, 2022 12:03 PM

[quote]Her father is a trump supporter, I don't blame her for not wanting anything to do with him!

Angelina is no liberal. She was hanging out with Tories in the UK and fancied moving there and becoming a tory MP.

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by Anonymousreply 464August 21, 2022 12:46 PM

Jolie would rock a swastika if it would give her clicks. Member she didn't finish High School.. Angie, smiling & stroking her blood vial. I thought Tory was a brand of Lager or a new Harrod's designer scent

by Anonymousreply 465August 21, 2022 12:52 PM

R463 you thought it was weird that a woman went to a concert with her minor child?

by Anonymousreply 466August 21, 2022 1:03 PM

Yes I did obviously r466. That’s why I posted the comment. My friends and I growing up did not attend concerts with our parents front and center.

by Anonymousreply 467August 21, 2022 1:07 PM

No, R466, it is just strange that the child has no friends her age with her.

Angelina wants her children glummed onto to her for life, that is all she has. She has designed a life for them that made it difficult to make age-appropriate friends.

by Anonymousreply 468August 21, 2022 1:08 PM

A 16 year old? does not want to go want to go to a concert with their mother. And she has massive amounts of bodyguards. She doesn't need her mom there.

by Anonymousreply 469August 21, 2022 1:09 PM

A 16yo doesn't want to go to a concert with her mother AND also doesn't want to see nothing but articles and gifs all over social media the next day saying "Angelina is so much cooler than Brad who went to a RHCP concert because he's a desperate copycat" when all she wanted to do was just go to a rock concert.

by Anonymousreply 470August 21, 2022 1:30 PM

Re: my comment at r470, there was stuff like this all over Twitter. Shiloh just wanted to go to a concert. It got turned into an "Angelina vs Brad" contest about who was more cool and a better parent.

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by Anonymousreply 471August 21, 2022 1:32 PM

SICK to DEATH of these two. I mean....unutterably.

by Anonymousreply 472August 21, 2022 1:53 PM

When you have a lot of kids, you spend time alone with one of them once a week or two. You do an activity or go to an event, just the two of you. The kid probably chose this concert as their activity to do together.

This is what therapists recommend for families with a lot of kids.

My friend has 2 sets of twins, she takes a different kid out to dinner once a week.

You often see her shopping with just one of her kid...that is the reason.

by Anonymousreply 473August 21, 2022 1:54 PM

R473 The fact that you often see her shopping with a kid says enough about the image she's trying to portray.

by Anonymousreply 474August 21, 2022 2:02 PM

R431 needs to be approached with caution. Preferably with a taser.

Oh, and everyone claiming the bio kids are so much more genetically blessed than the adoptees can hush right now. Zahara, Maddox and Pax are all much better looking than the dweeby youngest twin girl.

by Anonymousreply 475August 21, 2022 6:48 PM

R473, my sister has 4 kids and did the same. She sporadically took each child out individually for a special day. That ended when the kids were about 12. At that point they had their own social circles and didn’t want to hang out with their parents. In fact, my sister encouraged more socialization with their peers as they got older. Angelina’s kids were mostly home schooled and she is always out shopping or dining with them. They are more like her friends.

To the poster who keeps saying it’s unfair to judge Maddox and think it’s normal for a ‘kid’ to hang out playing video games all day, you do realize Maddox is a 21 year old man? That article about him in the NYC hotel room playing games all day was from last summer when he was 20 years old. Too many people talk like these kids are still toddlers. Angelina’s youngest are already 14 yrs old. This is a gossip board, every other celebrity offspring is talked about. Just because he is Saint Angelina’s child doesn’t make him exempt.

by Anonymousreply 476August 21, 2022 7:21 PM

To the queen upthread who keeps INSISTING that no one knows wether Maddox is a creep or not obviously never learned the fine art of reading faces as a protective measure .As a gay man reading a face is (was) an essential survival tactic. That ability got me out of a few hairy situations. You assimilated Young ones who grew up being accepted have no idea how it used to be. And will be again if the signs that are everywhere are true. We think Maddox is a creep because he IS a creep.Its written all over his face.

by Anonymousreply 477August 21, 2022 9:08 PM

What really creeps me out is when Angelina takes all her kids to some premiere or something and all those kids have these plastic-looking smiles plastered on their faces. Spooky. The Stepford Children

by Anonymousreply 478August 21, 2022 9:13 PM

R410 I don’t think not sleeping in the same bed is always a red flag. I am a horrible, terrible insomniac and light sleeper and I’ve slept in a separate place from former partners while still maintaining an ahem, “romantic relationship.” My nocturnal restlessness should not be inflicted on anyone.

by Anonymousreply 479August 21, 2022 9:16 PM

R478 While wearing her old dresses. And she's gonna cling to Shiiloh hard now when back in the day she kind of implied she didn't love her as much as the adopted kids.

by Anonymousreply 480August 21, 2022 9:18 PM

On the red carpet I’m always struck how by much more confident the adopted kids are than the bio kids. The two biological girls always look uncomfortable and unsure of themselves. The bio boy seems easy going.

by Anonymousreply 481August 21, 2022 9:20 PM

Way back in the day when the DL got decent gossip, a poster parroted the article mentioned upthread. I think they said they were security? Can't remember now. But, I do remember they said the household was chaos. They mentioned the rotating nannies. Each kid had multiple nannies for different shifts. Junkfood galore. Lots of McDonalds. No rules. No structure with homeschooling. Brad and Angie in separate rooms when both were in house, but that was rare as both filmed frequently. When Angie was around, she would 'episodes' where she wouldn't leave her room for days. Sometimes emotional spirals, sometimes drug binges, sometimes both. The person said Brad would plead wth her through the door to come out, tell her to think of the kids, etc.

It sounded like an asylum. Add to that, this traveling circus was constantly circling the globe. Not to mention the sheer insanity of being the kids of two of the biggest stars in the world. Those kids were fucked in so many ways long before that plane ride.

by Anonymousreply 482August 21, 2022 10:13 PM

I think we all knew he was referring to Maddox

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by Anonymousreply 483August 22, 2022 12:12 AM

Angelina is responsible for this being out there - Maddox's dad making the 'Columbine kid' comment about him. And you don't have to think Brad saying that is cool and fine to also think it is totally fucked up that his mother is the reason the public now knows it was about him.

Angelina will be a controlling, jealous nightmare with Shiloh (and the girl twin if she ends up pretty) but make no mistake, she has her claws sunk deep into the 2 older boys as well. She needs them to be her little helpers, echoing her every raging opinion about Brad, what an evil asshole he is, coddling her and protecting her like the Saint Mommy figure she needs to be to them. I don't even disagree that Maddox can come across as socially awkward. Is it a surprise, after being raised as the main focus of that psycho's neediness for a male protector and saviour when her husband checked out?

The best thing she could do for Maddox would be to leave him alone and let him establish his own life, separate from her. She won't do it, but she should.

by Anonymousreply 484August 22, 2022 12:46 AM

Brad getting drunk and saying shitty stuff is bad enough, but r484 is right. Six years later, mom is releasing all this to the public, thereby increasing the kids' trauma.

And don't tell me she didn't release this, because if she didn't and didn't want it out there, she'd be SCREAMING that the press was traumatizing her kids even more by publishing these details just to gawk over. She hasn't said a damn word.

by Anonymousreply 485August 22, 2022 12:50 AM

I really think she's enraged that Brad finally decided not to have anything to do with her anymore and she's going to make him pay for leaving her.

She's a "bunny boiler".

Fucking psycho.

He's got a lot of patience and class not to retaliate. Even if he did, it would only give weight to the fucked up things AJ says about him.

by Anonymousreply 486August 22, 2022 12:55 AM

Helen Keller could see by the way she was raising Maddox (even before Brad) that he would have a fucked up Mother complex

by Anonymousreply 487August 22, 2022 4:07 AM

He'll be fine as long as he's gay.

If he's straight. . . not so much.

by Anonymousreply 488August 22, 2022 4:11 AM

Playing video games at 20 years old is no big deal. It's quite common. Do you know that soccer stars play video games all the time??

by Anonymousreply 489August 22, 2022 6:23 AM

I love the term bunny boiler. AJ perfection.

by Anonymousreply 490August 22, 2022 6:37 AM

^Shit movie, but somehow everyone remembers that scene and immediately knows what it means.

by Anonymousreply 491August 22, 2022 8:17 AM

R477

I know right? It's written all over his ugly brown ASIAN face.

On a serious note, speak for yourself. WE don't think he is a creep (because we don't know anything about him except the fact that he has shitty parents). YOU think he is a creep because you are racist. Don't thank me.

by Anonymousreply 492August 22, 2022 9:26 AM

He thought with his dick, humiliated his wife globally and gets whatever the batshit Jolie dishes him.

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by Anonymousreply 493August 22, 2022 9:29 AM

The hate filled comments regarding Maddox are ridiculous. The truth is we don't know anything about any of these kids. They were for the most part kept out of the spotlight. All we know is that him and Pitt don't get along for reasons no one can be sure of.

by Anonymousreply 494August 22, 2022 9:43 AM

The were paraded around quite frequently pre-separation.

by Anonymousreply 495August 22, 2022 4:22 PM

While in Japan for the Bullet Train premiere some people organized for Brad to participate in a traditional Buddhist Bad Luck Cleansing Ritual. It is supposed to ward off evil spirits.

Someone commented: Brad, you should have done this 6 years ago.

LOL

by Anonymousreply 496August 23, 2022 5:40 AM

Well, here it is a week later and all this has died over and people are on the next story. But, no one in the film industry will forget this latest escapade. Good going, Jolie, on cementing yourself as a vengeful succubus to anyone left who had a shred of good will towards you.

by Anonymousreply 497August 23, 2022 12:51 PM

I don't know why people would care about this story. Most of the facts have already been out there. We knew Pitt was drunk and there was violence. Most of the new revelations are actually for damaging for Jolie. Pitt told the truth that he never hit Maddox and instead it was revealed that the parents were violent with each other. It is also damaging for Jolie bc stuff like the Columbine kid comment is now public. Revealing this information is not protecting your kids.

by Anonymousreply 498August 23, 2022 1:05 PM

R498, she doesn't care about protecting her kids. This has always been about her - her image, her psychological needs, her desires, and now her obsession to destroy her children's father and any bond he has with them.

I do think in the end Brad will "win" but at what cost to him and the children?

by Anonymousreply 499August 23, 2022 5:48 PM

At this point 50-something Jen is more marketable and popular than 40-something Angelina so she won the long game. She also does not look older than Angelina

by Anonymousreply 500August 23, 2022 6:10 PM

I wonder if Angie just hates the fact she spawned with Brad. Not because of the plane incident. Or his drunkness. Or the bad press. Or the fact the public will always like him more.

But because they produced Shiloh. And Shiloh will be more beautiful than Angie any moment now. And then remain that way for the rest of Angie's life.

You just know that drives her insane. And the resentment may very well be the cause of all this drama.

by Anonymousreply 501August 23, 2022 7:12 PM

Brad at his Demon Be Gone Ceremony.

He needs to start wearing garlic.

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by Anonymousreply 502August 23, 2022 7:13 PM

Jolie is spinning "mutual battery" into domestic violence.

And yes she is losing the PR war.

by Anonymousreply 503August 23, 2022 7:56 PM

"#BradPittIsAnAbuser" was trending yesterday. The Jolie fans are relentless.

by Anonymousreply 504August 23, 2022 8:17 PM

People need to grow the fuck up and learn to deal with ambiguity. The world is not evenly divided into MY ABUSER and SURVIVORS ( though I'm not denying that malicious abusive people and victims do exist). Jolie is a relentlessly vindictive cluster B and Pitt is definitely no angel. Even if he thought his child was disturbed you don't make a remark about them like that while they are in ear shot. Neither of these people need white knights. And as much as the twiterati loves to scream about narcissists, the truth is that NPD people and BPDs tend to gravitate towards each other.

by Anonymousreply 505August 24, 2022 5:05 AM

Omg. Amber Heard claimed Johnny Depp spilled wine on her and she freaked out because it was abusive!! Jolie claims Pitt spilled beer in her. Holy shit! Domestic violence, obviously.

by Anonymousreply 506August 24, 2022 5:08 AM

^We don't know that Pitt actually said it in front of Maddox. They were apparently also arguing inside the bathroom.

by Anonymousreply 507August 24, 2022 5:09 AM

Spilling wine or beer on someone is degrading. Which is a firm of abuse in my opinion.

by Anonymousreply 508August 24, 2022 5:11 AM

Not if it is accidental.

by Anonymousreply 509August 24, 2022 5:17 AM

Given the gaming and listlessness, I assumed Brad meant Elliot Rodger the autistic incel with the manifesto, not the Columbine kids.

by Anonymousreply 510August 24, 2022 2:48 PM

Oh for pity's sake, parents say that kind of shit all the time and it doesn't traumatize their children.

What is traumatic is when a child is either coddled or ignored - both extremes. Let's revisit the trauma created when a parent ignores red flags in their child pretending nothing could be wrong.

by Anonymousreply 511August 24, 2022 3:06 PM

Even if Brad said “Columbine kid” in front of Maddox, I think that only sounds horrible to millennials and Gen Z. Parenting only became kind and gentle once the Boomers were parents (and maybe among some enlightened Silent Generation people or religions like Quakers/Mormons/Black Southern Baptists/AME who are aware of their words.)

I am early Gen X or “Jones Generation” and my educated, successful, church-going, volunteering, and socially popular parents said worse things to my siblings and me. And their parents were even worse. I am not saying this was true of everyone but my friends experienced it as well. It wasn’t even seen as being wrong or harmful. This is likely why Alec Baldwin called Ireland a “rude little pig” or whatever he said, I am sure his parents, even though they were educated teachers, used words like that when they were mad at the kids. Brad may have experienced the same type of parenting. It wasn’t an every day type of thing but when you pissed your parents off - watch out.

by Anonymousreply 512August 24, 2022 3:17 PM

^ Don Draper could cut a bitch. With words.

by Anonymousreply 513August 24, 2022 3:22 PM

R512 Here again - I think parents of Boomers and early Gen X figured they weren’t beating their kids so they would verbally beat them instead. Sorry for derailing the thread. I will go find a therapist now.

by Anonymousreply 514August 24, 2022 3:33 PM

Sticks and stones may break my bones

But words can never hurt me.

We have been raising the weakest generations and it shows in almost every segment of society.

by Anonymousreply 515August 24, 2022 4:40 PM

Angelina Jolie is a narcissist, plain and simple. She will never give Brad Pitt another day of peace, if she has her way. Narcissists don't really care about their children, except for what the children can do for them. She will use them to bring Pitt down if she has to. And she is

by Anonymousreply 516August 24, 2022 4:40 PM

One thing that puts Brad in a really tough spot is that she probably won’t allow him to introduce the kids to another woman. If he gets serious and/or remarried and that person has kids they probably won’t even know each other. This will not be a Bennifer situation, that’s for sure. The kids seem firmly anchored to her. He seems to have zero power.

by Anonymousreply 517August 24, 2022 4:48 PM

Who knew J-Lo is a more decent person and mother than AJ?

by Anonymousreply 518August 24, 2022 5:31 PM

Jennifer grew up close to her sisters in an ethnic NY family.

Angelina grew up in a broken home with a nutty successful father and a nutty unsuccessful mother who gave up her double bedroom so 14-year-old Angie and her knife collection could make love to her boyfriend.

by Anonymousreply 519August 24, 2022 5:56 PM

Succinct r519.

by Anonymousreply 520August 24, 2022 6:20 PM

Actually Jennifer Garner is the Angelina in this scenario. Though it seems like Lopez gets along with Ben’s kids and I assume has a custody arrangement with Marc Anthony. Honestly, everything with most celebs and their exes seem to be amicable as far child custody, especially after years. Brad and Angelina are an anomaly these days.

by Anonymousreply 521August 24, 2022 6:22 PM

Angelina being Jennifer Garner would have worked out much better for everyone involved. And you know Ben was more of a fuck up for years than Brad has ever been.

She could give interviews about how amazing she is constantly and people would have actually believed it.

by Anonymousreply 522August 24, 2022 6:26 PM

Angelina took one of the kids to see Dear Evan Hansen this week.

by Anonymousreply 523August 24, 2022 6:30 PM

Of course, she is thrilled that her children love a play/narrative about suicide and a deceitful main character.

Think about this: they have already seen this and yet she flew across country to take her daughter to see it again.

by Anonymousreply 524August 24, 2022 6:57 PM

The youngest kids are 14--custody is going to be a non-issue in four years. All the kids are already at the age where they'd have a say in their custody issues.

by Anonymousreply 525August 25, 2022 6:01 AM

R519 Yes, I am aware of their family backgrounds. It was rhetorical comment based on their professional reputations and not meant to be taken seriously.

by Anonymousreply 526August 25, 2022 9:22 AM

R525, all the court has to do is "listen" to children once they reach a certain age. The court still makes the custody decision and decides how much weight to give a child's statements or preferences. In fact, those statements may go toward cementing the court's belief that parental alienation is the reason for the statements.

In a case where parental alienation has been found - like this one - I don't think a court would pay any attention at all to their "wishes" on custody. I wouldn't.

by Anonymousreply 527August 25, 2022 4:49 PM

R527, yes and no. My friend has been going through parental alienation for the past few years and even though the court ordered therapy and visitation with her, it hasn’t really happened. She saw them, many times begrudgingly on their part, but it petered out as they got older. Her oldest daughter has aged out and she hasn’t seen her in 2 years. The middle son (16) didn’t want to continue visiting her and no longer does. The youngest son, who is about 14, sees her regularly now and has softened. However, she said he is very troubled. No friends, no activities. Her daughter is also very messed up and quit school. The kids are all pretty much screwed up one way or another. Anyway, the point is, the court could mandate what they want, but you can’t force teenagers do what they don’t want to do. I think that’s probably the case with Brad. They see him when they want to. There is really nothing he can do at this point with their ages being what they are.

by Anonymousreply 528August 25, 2022 5:46 PM

It's probably a lost cause for now. Gotta wait for the kids to age out of Angelina's house and get away from her. He could try with Zahara who isn't under her thumb anymore. Not sure if any kid wants a Hollywood career, but they'll probably come running back to Brad unless they want to work on one of Mom's flop projects I suppose.

Though the worst thing he could is not contact them at all. If nothing else text them often and see how they are doing. My nephew went through a hard time not wanting to see his mother and she got pissy about it and just stopped bothering because she didn't like that he ignored her. Now they don't talk at all because it upset him that she didn't try harder to keep in touch. Kids are weird.

by Anonymousreply 529August 25, 2022 5:59 PM

R528, that is very sad. Unfortunately, parental alienation really does work. Its perps re mostly women though obviously some men do engage in it. These perps started a new movement to try to deny the existence of PA because some people have misused it. But that's like saying date rape doesn't happen because some people lie about it. Jolie and her friends are part of the PA doesn't exist movement.

When a parent violates a court order it takes the other parent bringing that violating parent to court to address the issue. The court rarely acts on its own to enforce custody orders. It prefers to let parties work it out on their own.

Pitt has been reluctant to drag Jolie into court - he even gave an interview early on in 2017 where he said he was advised that constantly going to court only hurts the kids - this is when Jolie was trying to get that $8 million out of him to buy that mansion and pretending she also wanted 50-50 custody. What a sap he was.

By the time Pitt realized her game and dragged her ass into court in May 2018 for a full evidentiary hearing with experts' and therapists' testimony etc, the parental alienation had already sprouted deep roots.

But a tough judge could force a kid to go to see their alienated parent. it's happened in some cases profiled in the news where the PA has been really blatant and the alienated had the money to go to court over it. The judge will tell the kid he can go to his room and watch TV if he wants but he will do it at his father's house.

After what she has been shown to do with these kids the UN should be ashamed to have her as their face. The UN considers PA to be child abuse. She's probably working on getting that changed as we speak.

I can't imagine what the majority of the industry think of her now.

by Anonymousreply 530August 25, 2022 6:13 PM

Sounds like Pitt has an ongoing relationship with the bio kids and possibly Zahara. Shiloh has a lot of reasons to have a decent relationship with him since AJ doesn't seem like the kind of mother who will deal well with a daughter outshining her. Shiloh aping her older brothers for years gives you an idea of where the attention was going.

No sense of what's up with the twins, though I'd expect the boy to have bonded with Pitt because, once again, of the dominance of the two oldest boys.

It is weird, but it does seem like Pitt is more bonded to the bio kids and Angelina to the adopted ones. It sounds like both Maddox and Pax refuse to see him. Zahara, sensibly, is getting out of the mess. I'll bet she doesn't drop out--as a girl, she's not under the same pressure to play mom's white knight.

by Anonymousreply 531August 25, 2022 7:54 PM

R531 It's not weird she likes the adopted kids more considering crap she's publicly said before

[quote] I think I feel so much more for Mad and Z because they're survivors, they came through so much. Shiloh seemed so privileged from the moment she was born. I have less inclination to feel for her... I met my other kids when they were six months old, they came with personality. A newborn really is this... yes, a blob! But now she's starting to have a personality... I'm conscious that I have to make sure I don't ignore her needs just because I think the others are more vulnerable.

by Anonymousreply 532August 25, 2022 8:01 PM

Another poster who has gone further down this rabbit hole said Pax was still linked to Brad, SM'd with his cousins and whatnot in MO, etc., R531. Just my impression, but I think Jolie treated Pax as less-than Maddox. It was almost as if he was adopted to be Maddox's playmate and not adopted for his own sake. He probably picked up on that and is not tied to her apron strings like Maddox.

by Anonymousreply 533August 25, 2022 8:27 PM

R533 It's ironic if true that AJ gave all the love to Maddox because he matured into an adult man who looks like he was beat hard and often with an ugly stick. Rarely have I ever seen such an unattractive young man. Amazing, really, because he was such an unusually striking child and AJ likely selected him due to his looks.

by Anonymousreply 534August 25, 2022 8:47 PM

well, this photo says it all

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by Anonymousreply 535August 25, 2022 9:02 PM

tragic -- how could such a cute child grow up to be so unattractive?

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by Anonymousreply 536August 25, 2022 9:04 PM

Maddox - cute kid, now hideous

Shiloh - strange looking kid, now beautiful

Genes are everything in this world.

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by Anonymousreply 538August 25, 2022 11:35 PM

At 21 Maddox looks 41. He’s balding and just looks old.

As for Angelina. I was shocked to see that picture of her. Haven’t seen her dressed like that in decades. I won’t lie, I think she looks so much better than the school librarian look. She either has a new man or it has something to do with Brad.

by Anonymousreply 539August 25, 2022 11:37 PM

Big phony Angelina, with her YSL purse - she could maintain an orphanage on the price of these handbags she drags around.

by Anonymousreply 540September 7, 2022 12:14 AM
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