Which Italian woman was more beautiful in their prime: Madonna or Gia Carangi?

Virna Lisi!

Sofia Loren? Gina Lollogridgida ? Lucia Bosé ?

BriDgida

Urgh !

Monica Bellucci

Sophia Petrillo 🙄

Madonna ugly.

Are you high OP? Madonna, shouldn't even be on that list! Besides, she's not even of 100% Italian descent!

Sophia Loren, Gina Lollobrigida, Monica Bellucci!

As far as having an interesting look, the late super cool Monica Vitti.

Gia Carangi was very common looking, makeup and great photographers transformed her.

I work with models, so many are extremely plain and common looking, the makeup, lighting and the camera transforms them.

Madonna and Gia Carangi are/were Italian-Americans, with Madge's mother being French-Canadian and Gia's mother of Irish and Welsh heritage. True Italian beauties are Monica Bellucci, Claudia Cardinale, etc.

R12 beat me to it : Claudia Cardinale

[quote]Madonna and Gia Carangi are/were Italian-Americans, with Madge's mother being French-Canadian and Gia's mother of Irish and Welsh heritage. True Italian beauties are Monica Bellucci, Claudia Cardinale, etc.

I'm sure many are aware that Madonna and Gia are/were Italian-American, with other nationalities mixed in. However, most Americans are defined by their ancestry. I don't know many Americans who say, "I'm American", especially when you ask them, "What are you?" they will always tell you what their ancestry is.

R6, why?

sofia boutella

Dear Madonna, please quit making up terrible threads about you. We realize how little timw you have left before you become the second old old Mae West. Her later years were sad sad sag old hag. Stop madonna !

“Her”, OP, not “their”.

Sofia Boutella isn't Italian, she's Algerian. At age 10, her family left Algeria and moved to Paris, France. The misinformation on DL gets more convoluted with each passing day.

The names Sophia/Sofia are Greek in origin. The word means "wisdom". Other forms of this name are Sofie and Sophie. Many nationalities use this n name as a first name, such as Italians and Russians. The first instance of Sophia as a first name was in the 4th century.

Gia Carangi's story is such a sad one.

Gia Gia Gia. Stunning and exquisite and unique. And also ended before it became grotesque - though she was well on her way before she even turned 25.

When did Gia's looks first start to deteriorate?

[quote]When did Gia's looks first start to deteriorate?

The minute she first stuck that heroin filled needle into her arm. 💉💉💉

You are welcome!

Lady Gaga.

Virna Lisi

[quote]Gia Gia Gia. Stunning and exquisite and unique. And also ended before it became grotesque - though she was well on her way before she even turned 25.

What was so unique about Gia's looks? Stunning, exquisite, UNIQUE, seriously? Gia was actually rather common looking, she could pass for a typical Italian or Hispanic woman from a working class US neighborhood. Most of us know Angelina Jolie portrayed Gia, but Angie looked nothing like Gia.

Gia sure wasn't ugly, but she actually looked more like actress Valerie Bertinelli than Cindy Crawford, the model she is most often compared to.

That pic you used is when Gia was trying to make a comeback while still deep into addiction.

Here's another pic where Gia does look like Valerie Bertinelli.

Yes, R24, I was aware of the Cosmo cover being taken during her addiction, you can see how her track marks on her arms were covered with the dress. I was simply posting a photo where she looked like Valerie B.

Gia was stunning when at her best.

She was exquisite.

Are we to believe Gia wasn't HIGH in that 20/20 interview?! These junkies are/were only kidding themselves.

Monica Vitti.

Jon Bon Jovi.

Honorable mention to Valarie Bertinelli. She was a wholesome, beautiful teen back in the day. GREAT hair!

Gia looked like a dozen other models to me.

Another vote for Claudia Cardinale.

Did you know? Her birth name is Claude. Born (of Sicilian immigrants) in Tunisia (at the time a French protectorate), she grew up speaking French, Arabic, and Sicilian; she didn't learn Italian until after she was signed to a film contract as an adult; later, she also learned to speak English and Spanish.

Cardinale was pleasant looking, not beautiful.

Beauty

Ornella Muti

Gia wasn’t really full blooded Italian either. Her mother was Irish and Welsh American.

Yes, R37. That was pointed out at R9.

Gia was beautiful but I agree there was something common about her - that's not a bad thing. I concur that she is closest to Valerie Bertinelli in the looks category but VB was always more stable.

Between the two, I think Cindy Crawford was more beautiful than Gia. But Gia was more sultry than Cindy.

Ornella Muti was staggeringly beautiful. Claudia Cardinale was tremendously pretty and very appealing to straight men.

Madonna!?

Bitch are you blind?

Madonna and Gia don't really compare because Madonna was beautiful but not a fashion model type of beauty. Also Madonna is tiny.

Virna Lisi is very beautiful but she could really be from a number of Euro countries.

Until she started to dye it, and fuck it up, Madonna had nice thick wavy dark hair and she had nice eyes, that's about it.

Beautiful? Not at all.

R43, why is Madonna not beautiful?

Madonna was pretty but not beautiful. Today she is a gnome.

I don't think most pop stars are beautiful. They are cute, charismatic, athletic and sexy. You swoon over them. Fashion models are meant to be distant, alien, exotic and alluring. They put you in awe. Madonna could never be a model. Whitney Houston was a fashion model before she became a pop singer and Vanessa Williams was a beauty queen before she became a singer. So compare Madonna to them and Hollywood actresses and fashion models. You'll see Madonna wouldn't have fit the 1980s definition of beautiful. But in Madonna's defense, she was a great pop star. Whitney and Vanessa posed a lot but lacked that energy on stage.

Back on topic, I'd give this to Gia.

[quote]r28 Are we to believe Gia wasn't HIGH in that 20/20 interview?!

She’s on heroin. Again.

The segment was devised by Carangi’s agents to show the industry she was clean and could work again. And she did arrive sober, but then ducked in the bathroom to do drugs.

Sandy Linter, who was doing the makeup, was very disappointed as she knew how much was riding on this.

(She did look divine, however.)

Gia was sexier than Modonna could ever hope to be.

Madonna’s someone who made the most of what she had. Beautiful eyes and a good body, but the rest was all kind of crudely formed.

Gia Carangi was a little rough hewn (sometimes quite butch) but in another class entirely.

Gia could stun through a chain link fence?

R49, what do you think of Madonna's nose?

Gia… but Linda Evangelista puts them both to shame.

[quote] why is Madonna not beautiful?

Ask scientists.

Of course it's Gia. Gia to me, is more beautiful than Sophia L or Monica B or Gina L -- she was not an actress. She was a working class person who became a model and lived fast, died young. She had a very interesting but short life.

I never got the big deal over Monica Bellucci. Meh. Now Catherine Deneuve - ok.

Madonna is half French Canadian and looks it. Gia was half Irish. Pick someone 100 percent Italian like the stunning Monica Bellucci. I would have gone straight for her in her prime.

This hair looks like 1976, no?

Was Gia all natural in the chest department?

[quote] r52 What do you think of Madonna's nose?

Well, there’s been a lot of coke up it, probably.

And semen squirted out.

[quote]r58 Was Gia all natural in the chest department?

Yes. She started modeling as a teen - too young in those days for a boob job. And the measurements didn’t change.

Several fashion insiders are quoted as thinking she had “the best tits in the business.”

What a great, rangey body she had.

Gia! Gia! Gia!

[quote]r62 What a great, rangey body she had.

I think she was only 5’6 1/2”, too.

A sad thing about Gia is she was showered with physical gifts and was instinctively good at modeling, but she didn’t like it at all. In fact it freaked her out to be glammed up in a very feminine way and to be praised for that when she was a very butch lez, inside. It was piling praise on an image that pleased her mom, and society, but that she herself hated.

She was truly one of the great models, though. Very naturally dramatic and sexy. There were even gay men in the fashion world she turned on.

I could see Gia as Priss in Blade Runner.

Is this the same troll who started the "Who do you think was better looking in their prime: Debbie Harry or Madonna?" That kind of ludicrous comparison. What a retarded troll.

Gia Carangi was a stunning beauty. Madonna was never good looking. That's that. So shut the fuck up, troll. Your threads are as retarded as you are.

Debbie and Sandy Linter. Doesn't Sandy look mean?

Gia Carangi had beauty but not much else: no education, no intellectual curiosity, no ambition, no work ethic, no family support system. She was always unhappy and it showed in her photos, the darkness in her life. But why? Well, she had Mommy issues. And she was a lesbian at a time when it wasn't as accepted as it is now. In order to blot out her unhappiness she turned to drugs and became a hard core junkie and ended up getting AIDS most likely from needles. Hers was truly a sad story. But if she hadn't become a model and had the money to indulge in drugs would things have been different? Probably not. Someone who knew her said "She would have been a casualty in any life."

[quote]R68 In order to blot out her unhappiness she turned to drugs

Yes - but also, she was a teen making good money in NYC in the 1970s. Everyone turned to drugs there. I just mean it wasn’t necessarily an inner sadness that lead her to Studio 54.

She did dive in with an unusual ferocity, tho.

Madonna's whole career has been like Joan Crawford's: The Triumph of the Will. You WILL find me beautiful. I'LL MAKE YOU find me beautiful. If you don't, I'll kill you with my bare hands.

Madonna vs Elizabeth Taylor is a better comparison

Their beauty is on par with each other

Madge is much prettier than Liz. Come on.

[quote] Their beauty is on par with each other

Shut up, you stupid troll. Liz Taylor's asshole was better looking than Madonna's face ever was.

R72, who is JK?

Cute.

[quote] r74 Who is JK?

JK = Just Kidding

All the kids are saying it now.

How can Gia Carangi be the first supermodel if I didn't hear about her until that Angelina Jolie TV movie was released? The first one I remember hearing about was Christie Brinkley. And wasn't she preceeded by Jean Shrimpton, Twiggy, and Suzy Parker? (All of whom I read about in the 80s as a teen.) I remember thinking, when the Jolie movie was released, why are they making a movie about a model few people have actually heard of?

Because she died of the AIDS.

There were several models before Gia who’ve been mentioned here already as being supermodels or at least proto-supermodels. Gia was thisclose to joining that pantheon but for whatever reason, threw it all away.

[quote]r77 How can Gia Carangi be the first supermodel if I didn't hear about her until that Angelina Jolie TV movie was released?

Because she wasn’t. And neither was Janice Dickinson.

For the Linda Evilista fans:

Linda looks like an exotic bird. Striking but not versatile. Gia was versatile.

[quote]r67 Doesn't Sandy look mean?

No.

Hi Sandy, r83!

I think Jean Shrimpton more than Suzy Parker was the first. Janice Dickerson claims to be the first. Every decade has supermodels. Gia was among the 80s supermodels and she was on a shit ton of covers. Some say Evelyn Nesbitt but no one was calling models supermodels until the 90s and the big six came along. The Big Six, as they were dubbed, were the queens of the '90s: Linda Evangelista, Claudia Schiffer, Naomi Campbell, Kate Moss, Cindy Crawford, and Christy Turlington.

Pier Angeli, or Sophia Loren, Claudia Cardinale. Ciccone is and always has been a dog

I was the first!

Why did Schiffer get the spot over Karen Mulder? Her adorable buck teeth?

R88 Because everyone thought she was the new Bardot. She was in fact a Teutonic Country Bumpkin Beard. Just ask Ms Davida Copperfield......

But didn't Mathew Vaughan knock up January Jones?

[quote]But didn't Mathew Vaughan knock up January Jones?

Wrong thread? Apparently.

Vaughan is Schiffer's husband, no?

Madonna

January Jones in NOT welcome here.

She was a model, but not a SUPERmodel.

Jennifer Lawrence did an Abercrombie photo shoot when she was a teen, but the pics were never used.

[quote] Upon being asked to simulate a game of American football for the pictures, Lawrence got a little too involved - which was off-putting for her fellow models and didn't make for attractive photographs.

[quote]"I realised that they were model footballing and I was really playing football," she said. "I was there with flared nostrils and a red face and my hair out to here, and at one point one of the other girls screamed, [italic]'Get her away from me.'"

R86, why don't you think Madonna is pretty?

I like this look. I doubt most think of Madonna ever looking like this.

R97, why don't most think of her ever looking like that?

Well, for one: Madonna with dark hair has always been shortlived in her pop career. There's a casual quality to her hair and her outfit, which again, is not a hallmark of Madonna.

Mamma Madonna è bellissima.

[quote]r97 I like this look. I doubt most think of Madonna ever looking like this.

Is that her Diane Fossey period? I missed it.

[quote] Madonna is half French Canadian and looks it.

Honey, she’s a carbon copy of her Italian father.

R102, get some glasses

Gia even though I’ve never seen her

Anyone who cannot see Madonna's resemblance to Silvio must have cataracts!

In fact, all her siblings resemble Silvio, they all have the same face, especially the eyes and the heavy eyebrows.

The half siblings, less so.

ALL the siblings look like Silvio, get your eyes examined.

Little Madonna, definitely looks like Papa Ciccone, right down to the same space in their front teeth.

Silvio's genes are strong!

Madonna is a Ciccone through and through. She really destroyed her Italian bone structure with all the filler, implants, etc.

Well, you can’t judge someone’s looks by plastic surgery they had after 50. Before then she was decent enough looking. And she made herself sexy.

[quote]I don't know many Americans who say, "I'm American", especially when you ask them, "What are you?" they will always tell you what their ancestry is.

I do. I have no idea what my heritage is. I have a German last name, but no one can trace back who came from Germany (it was well before the 1900s) and I've been told so many thing-Irish, English, Scottish, French, German, Swedish. Russian, etc. I have no interest in a DNA test because I have absolutely no connection to any of those places. If people press me, I'll say the name is German, but I just don't know. And frankly don't really care.

How odd.

R111, is that directed at me (r110)?

Anyone living

YOU, Madonna’s rep, YOU’RE THE MOST BEAUTIFUL!

Now stop this!

Madonna looks like a dog's asshole in comparison to Gia Carangi.

Madonna without a doubt. Madonna in her prime (30 years ago) was one of the most beautiful women in the world.

(vomits quietly)

[quote] Madonna without a doubt. Madonna in her prime (30 years ago) was one of the most beautiful women in the world.

Oh shut up, you pitiful troll.

Madge

Madge is a fug. Always was, always will be.

Gia, obviously, what a silly question. Madge was never beautiful nor is she beautiful now although she seems to think those plasticized photoshop extravaganzas are beautiful.

Sophia Loren was beautiful. None of her features really "work" by themselves but together? Magic.

Madonna may have had a leg up on Gia looks-wise when the latter was dying of AIDS, but that's about it.

Madonna had more charm, Gia probably was the more classical beautiful between the two( but also incredibly common and banal, she looks like bilions of other catalogue models) but madonna had that spark in her.

[quote]r123 Gia probably was the more classical beautiful between the two

[italic]Probably?

quote] Madonna had more charm

In what universe has Madonna ever had "charm?" A reviewer of "Truth of Dare" got it right when he called her the film's "charmless, driven heroine."

Are you kidding? No contest: Gia

Madonna was a model too when she was younger so she must be good-looking.

Ducka You Heada

Lowla

Brigidia

Gia Joodice is the prettiest’s and she ain’t even prime yet

OP, please do Sofia Loren vs. Lady Gaga next!

R125 I'm not even a Madonna fan but , in my opinion, Madonna in her prime looked alive and looked charming in a flirtuous way ( i'm talking of 80s Madonna), meanwhile Gia never had any sparkle in her eyes, probably because of drugs, but she looked like a mannequin without any life in her.

[quote]Madonna was a model too when she was younger so she must be good-looking.

In what universe was Madonna ever a high fashion model? Please enlighten me, show me an ad campaign she worked on or a Vogue or harper's Bazaar fashion editorial she did before becoming a pop singer.

The only 'modeling' she did was to pose nude for a few photographers, that had nothing to do with fashion modeling.

Get some rest, dear.

[quote]r132 The only 'modeling' she did was to pose nude for a few photographers, that had nothing to do with fashion modeling.

Nudies. Nudies!

You're not familiar with Gia if you think she always had dead eyes.

[quote] Madonna was a model too when she was younger so she must be good-looking.

You don't have to be pretty to be a model. I've seen runway models who were hideous.

Madonna was never a model, aside from some cheapie nude studies done by a Charlie Nobody photographer when she was studying dance.

She’s only 5’5”

More like 5 2

Thank you. I just did a quick Google search and picked first answer : (

Short, dumpy, unshaven armpit hair good tits - that's Madonna.

Gorgeous, tall, elegant lines, tragic - that's Gia.

Dumbest thread created in August, so thank god that month is over.

With so many people in the world, the most beautiful Italian woman is out there and they don't necessarily have to be famous. Think about it.

Your should put that on a towel, r141.

[quote] Madonna was a model too when she was younger so she must be good-looking.

For an art student drawing the human body.

Madonna has tiny man nipples.

I wouldn't say they're especially small. The areolas are quite pale, which might lead one to that conclusion.

Madonna has a prettier face IMO

Gina Slaviccioso was quite the beauty in her day.

I'll get two boys. It'll frame me better.

In what world does Madonna have better tits than Gia?

R149, what do you think is wrong with Madonna's breasts?

What's so bizarre about Madonna and that SEX book, there was nothing particularly sensual, arousing or erotic about it.

In fact, Madonna has to be one of the most unappealing un-sexy sex symbols to ever be promoted as one!

Everything she does is so cold and calculated, that's not sexy in the last.