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New book on Elizabeth Warren -- People would vote for me if I had a penis

his question about whether or not a woman can be president has been raised and it’s time for us to attack it head-on. And I think the best way to talk about who can win is by looking at people’s winning record. So, can a woman beat Donald Trump?

“Look at the men on this stage. Collectively, they have lost 10 elections. The only people on this stage who have won every single election that they’ve been in are the women: Amy and me.”

Applause rang out.

“So true,” Sen. Amy Klobuchar said with a chuckle. “So true.”

Later in the debate, Warren made another pass at the electability question: “I do think it’s the right question: How do we beat Trump? And here’s the thing: Since Donald Trump was elected, women candidates have outperformed men candidates in competitive races. And in 2018, we took back the House, we took back statehouses, because of women candidates and women voters,” she said.

And back on the plane in the hours following the January 2020 Iowa Caucus, hurtling into New Hampshire and toward the next primary — down but not yet out — she knew at least one explanation for why. Deepa Shivaram, NBC’s Warren embed, brought up the “women win” messaging and the fact that, at least in this Iowa Democratic Caucus … they didn’t. Where did that message come from, Deepa asked,and why was it important to speak to gender now?

“I’m responding to what people wanna hear,” Warren told us plainly, with a characteristically biting edge in her voice. She spoke sometimes as if all the annoyance and frustration she had about the political system simmered right on the edge of her words, teeming on the top of her teeth, threatening to spill over.

We’d talked about the dynamics of Iowa, her competitors and the pressure she put on herself not “to screw this up.” But here and now she offered her plainest view of the landscape yet: “Everyone comes up to me and says, ‘I would vote for you, if you had a penis.’”

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by Anonymousreply 30August 24, 2022 4:02 AM

It's her fault for identifying as she/her

by Anonymousreply 1August 13, 2022 12:30 AM

It's a sad reality that people tend to dislike the "smart girl" in the room (ask Hil about that!), but I think Warren's issues extend beyond her sex. Even Obama thought she was too much. I think she's good at being a senator. There's nothing wrong with that - Ted Kennedy was a Senator & probably had a more lasting impact than his brothers - but I don't think her...I don't know, militancy? really helps her bridge the gap with people. The whole Native American thing didn't help, even if it was largely bullshit, but it's kind of like Kamala - it's easy to blame to the sexist haters, but there are legitimate reasons people aren't on board with this person...

by Anonymousreply 2August 13, 2022 12:42 AM

[quote]People would vote for me if I had a penis

No, they wouldn't.

The only reason she gets away with half the crap she says is BECAUSE she's a woman and people are afraid of being called out for misogyny. If Schumer or Durbin said half the crap that she said, they'd be raked over the coals.

Warren comes across like Tracy Flick from Election.

by Anonymousreply 3August 13, 2022 12:44 AM

I wouldn’t, she seems kind of like the female Bernie Sanders to me. And I wouldn’t vote for him either. They’re unelectable for national office. Both are electable locally because they fit the local culture, and they both come from small states with very particular points of views that don’t represent the national view. They are both very local phenomenons.

by Anonymousreply 4August 13, 2022 12:56 AM

She is brilliant. We could had an amazing President. But no because of sexism.

by Anonymousreply 5August 13, 2022 1:00 AM

She ran an even more incompetent campaign than Hillary.

That is why she lost.

She had a great back story: Betsy Herring from Oklahoma with her redneck Trumpy brothers. Grew up blue collar, single mom at a young age. Worked her way through college and law school over many years. She knows what it is like to struggle, to not have everything handed to you. She is going to make sure the working class people of America--of all colors--get taken care of, that not everything goes to the billionaires.

No one else running had that kind of back story except maybe Biden.

Instead she ran as Elizabeth Warren, New England law school professor who wears Patagonia vests and had two black labs in her Volvo wagon. Only buys organic produce. Is far more concerned with the pronouns of trans people than with the incomes of working class people.

And the thing is, that coastal educated NYT/WaPo subscribing, foreign-movie watching elite is maybe 10% of the Democratic voter base.

So win the Upper West Side and Park Slope, lose the rest of New York State in the primary.

by Anonymousreply 6August 13, 2022 1:05 AM

I Will not allow a book with that title in my library!!

by Anonymousreply 7August 13, 2022 1:08 AM

Apparently having balls is not enough.

Obama betrayed her after she set up the bureau for oversight of corporation behavior. Whatever happened to that? Who runs it now? If Obama has given her creation to her to run, the country would be in a different place now.

That's what you get for voting for preacherman over a more qualified candidate simply because he had what she didn't have: a BBC.

by Anonymousreply 8August 13, 2022 1:14 AM

14 years later and fucking Hillbots won't let it go.

The person who carries the football over the goal line scores the touchdown

Not the person who is most qualified to carry the football.

Sometimes that's the same person.

Just as often it's not.

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by Anonymousreply 9August 13, 2022 1:20 AM

In retrospect, I think she was qualified to be POTUS. As a woman, she probably did get scrutinized more than the men candidates did. The Native American thing did bother me. I also cringed when she posted the video of herself drinking beer from a bottle.

She's healthy, though, physically and mentally. I think she would have chosen good people for her cabinet.

by Anonymousreply 10August 13, 2022 1:21 AM

I don't like her because she was a Republican during the AIDS crisis. Bernie was always consistent with his beliefs - I worked as a volunteer for his campaign in 2016 and 2020. I'd have voted for anyone on a Dem ticket against a Republican though, I voted for Clinton and Biden, who I liked significantly less than Warren.

by Anonymousreply 11August 13, 2022 1:25 AM

She tried playing both sides of dem voters instead of sticking to her true self. Weak. We're better off.

by Anonymousreply 12August 13, 2022 1:51 AM

Elizabeth Warren can borrow Lindsey Graham's penis. He doesn't use it.

by Anonymousreply 13August 13, 2022 2:29 AM

R9 iT wAs HeR tUrN!!!!!1111

by Anonymousreply 14August 19, 2022 8:47 PM

Elizabeth,

Is this your way of telling us you might...be...a...PENISED-person?

by Anonymousreply 15August 19, 2022 8:51 PM

They would vote for her if she wasn’t a liar.

by Anonymousreply 16August 19, 2022 9:02 PM

People don’t vote for women that start playing the sexism card. It just screams loser who crumbles under pressure. She’s not president material.

by Anonymousreply 17August 19, 2022 9:03 PM

She doesn’t get my vote, penis or not.

by Anonymousreply 18August 19, 2022 9:52 PM

Freaking crazy loon.

by Anonymousreply 19August 20, 2022 1:56 AM

Nope.

by Anonymousreply 20August 20, 2022 1:59 AM

She comes across as odd. So do lots of men. Not everybody can be president.

by Anonymousreply 21August 24, 2022 1:39 AM

She's always sort of reminded me of a hermaphrodite. One with a very small penis and a vagina with fangs

by Anonymousreply 22August 24, 2022 1:42 AM

I really like her and respect. I also really don't think she will ever be president. Maybe part of it is her gender, but a bigger part of it is her personality that too many Americans just will not see as "presidential" a stupid word, but one that is instinctual. Too smart, too professorial, too intimidating. She did get to be Senator, so it's not like she is unelectable in some big sense, but even that seems odd. I think she'd be best leading some big, huge agency with a somewhat hidden but outsized impact, like treasury, or EPA, or even Labor, which is so hidden away and supposed to do nothing special, but could have a big impact in the right hands. She seems like an arch-bureaucrat, but in the actual good sense of the term. Somebody who could delve into the details, master them, and actually use them to make this stupid country better in spite of itself.

by Anonymousreply 23August 24, 2022 1:45 AM

She should have run for Governor, perhaps, and showed what she could do.

by Anonymousreply 24August 24, 2022 1:48 AM

I think she'd be a good governor overall, but all truly political jobs involve so much bullshit and nonsense, that I think she'd be wasted on most of it. Any backslapping, any pretense of being thrilled to be here in bumfuck cutting a ribbon for some stupid fucking thing, I really think that would be a waste of her time. It's part of the job, but I'm sure it's a part of the job she'd hate, and I guess I see her in a different role.

then again, as I said, she did run for Senate, so maybe she does have a little of that in her. I just see her more as a great manager steering a complicated agency and making it actually do its damn job, which is a hell of a rarity in Washington, which is mostly about dicking around and pretending to give a shit about things rather than actually doing them.

by Anonymousreply 25August 24, 2022 1:57 AM

I get the feeling she truly like people and truly cares about them. I don't get the impression she wants to hear anyone's voice or thoughts but her own. The ability to listen and compromise is part of the job. Great mind, lousy communicator/politician.

by Anonymousreply 26August 24, 2022 2:27 AM

[quote] I don't get the impression she wants to hear anyone's voice or thoughts but her own.

Perfect fit for the Harvard faculty

by Anonymousreply 27August 24, 2022 2:31 AM

maybe true r27, but also may have its uses. I do think the Harvard faculty should listen to each other at least, but honestly, the truth is, most people are somewhat morons and listening to them blather on about shit they don't actually understand is probably a waste of everyone's time. And part of politics is of course pretending that every moron's opinion is just as valuable as anybody else's.

by Anonymousreply 28August 24, 2022 2:34 AM

I would have voted for her if she had only worn her natural hair.

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by Anonymousreply 29August 24, 2022 2:44 AM

After she ended her presidential campaign, I remember her staffers went to Twitter to trash Pete Buttigieg, because he dared to ruin HER TURN!!!

by Anonymousreply 30August 24, 2022 4:02 AM
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