Ann Heche has a severe brain injury and isn’t expected to make it, per her rep to people magazine.

Rep talking about her in the past tense already.

AnnE

Dear God.

Oh, that is truly terrible.

And still no word from Susan Dey, the stone-cold bitch.

The accident happened in Mar Vista yet she's in a hospital all the way out in West Hills? Why? Did they fly her there?

This is a terrible way to go for her and her family. The latter especially. Her barely adult son will have to deal with the aftermath, the lawsuits, the paparazzi, etc.

This is sad news. I feel terrible for her kids and family.

Her children are around 20 & 13

I feel bad, too.

Sure, you do.

Can they really sue her estate after she dies? Sorry for the dumb question. I always wonder why people's kids would be liable for their outstanding medical/legal bills after they die. Is it because America is a money-grab country?

Her name is Lynne Mishele, R10.

R10 it’s not excusable on Anne’s part and what she did was terribly reckless and irresponsible, but there is still a difference between someone losing their possessions and someone losing their life—especially a parent with kids. Even though it’s of her own doing, it’s a sad situation.

[quote]I really want Anne to pay a penalty for this

She’s going to die. Happy now?

[quote]"It has long been her choice to donate her organs and she's being kept on life support to determine if any are viable," the rep tells PEOPLE.

I'd pass on her liver, frankly.

Who?

R14 Her estate should be civilly liable for the damages, though who knows how long that would take.

What's on her iPod?

Yes, anyone harmed by her actions could sue her estate. But that's assuming she has any assets.

R12, her kids aren’t really liable. A lawsuit will come out of Anne’s money, so they may not get anything, but it isn’t the same as them being liable. The victims should absolutely be financially compensated by her estate. The kids have a dad to care for them, which is more than a lot of kids have.

This whole story is sad. So much talent and promise destroyed by mental illness and addiction.

She's at a burn unit R6. Believe it or not they actually have hospitals that deal with burn victims.

Relax, frauen, she was only an actress.

The brain damage was probably caused by lack of oxygen due to lungs clogged by soot etc

When I saw her car, the same thing flashed through my mind as when I saw Diana’s car: she ain’t gonna make it. Well, she’s been a character and a talent and has left her mark.

The view of her raising up on the stretcher is haunting asf. Was she conscious at the time? It looked spooky. She just raises up with arms out.

Some ppl on DL have some awful karma coming your way to wish such horrible things on a clearly mentally ill, sick woman who needed help not scorn. Maybe she didn’t suffer. She initially was talking while in the car.

May you find the peace you were never allowed to find on Earth.

Sad karen clearly wanted to kill her karen self. Hope she goes quick to hell.

Trust are protected R21. Anyone with assets over $100,000 should have a trust.

No He He now, cunts.

What did cause her to raise up ? Was it because she couldn’t breathe ?

Shock, R2

A reflex? The pain of the burns so severe...? That was freaky to see that.

You know, I am really saddened by this. The woman will never get any credit for it, and I will probably be excoriated for saying it, but back in the day, back in 19-fucking-97, Anne Heche actually helped to move the needle for gay people. She did that whether or not she ultimately identified as gay herself. I won’t forget that and I hope other people don’t forget it either.

This is the second worst news I've heard all day. The first was Portia telling me she accidentally dropped my favorite coffee mug.

Who is Anne Heche, again?

God this is sad. This and the Windsor Hills crash on the same day. Such a shame, loss of life.

Watching the video of her racing down that street was chilling . She must have been out of her mind

And take you with her, troll r29. That’s the only place you belong you smug fuck.

It may have been adrenaline, R32. My great-grandfather had a story about seeing someone get up and run home after being hit by a car, only to die when they reached their house. Great grandpa was a physician who served in World War II, and said it wasn’t unheard of (although rare) for someone to experience a surge of energy after a traumatic injury.

An anoxic brain injury suggests it was caused by lack of oxygen, rather than damage suffered in the car accident. It must have been terrifying to be conscious while trapped in a burning car. No matter what decisions Anne made that led to this (and how intentional they were) it’s a sad way to go.

Her brother died from a car crash when he was 18 in 1983.

According to the Daily Mail they found she was all coked up when she was speeding along that street.

Remember, they'll claim anything to try to avoid jail.

Make it seem like it's the worst...

bottle it up in the public consciousness before trial.

declare her a saint when she miraculously recovers, is rolled out to all the paps that showed up and makes the acting move of her life in a performance of just getting into a car.

worst case scenario, she actually dies, fraus cry because they hated their mothers too and a mob of bronies chase down Ellen

R12, yes, when she dies, her estate can be sued for the damages she caused while living.

What a tragic life

So the brain death was caused by the fire and not blunt force trauma?

Why did they have her lying on tummy if she couldn’t breathe

A trust cannot be sued R45.

R35 is right. There'd be no fucking gay men if not for Ann fucking Heche.

I’m heartbroken. She was a wonderful actress who came from an impossible set of circumstances.

Gay men didn't exist until 1997 R50?

I posted about this before, but I saw a kid get decapitated while riding his bike while I was on the way to work 13 years ago. I was at a 4 way stop intersection and a car plowed right through and hit him. He was decapitated (head kind of dangling but not completely off) with his helmet still on, and he pushed his body up on his elbow like he was trying to get up. It’s a reflex thing.

Wouldn't her organs be all cooked up and ready to eat?

Dang.

[quote]The accident happened in Mar Vista yet she's in a hospital all the way out in West Hills?

They took her to the Grossman Burn Center, at the West Hills Hospital.

I'm too broken up about it to type.

R53, so she was unconscious or near death when she got up ?

I kind of agree with r35; in 1997-98, Anne Heche was half of the most famous lesbian couple in America, and her casting as the lead in Six Days, Seven Nights opposite Harrison Ford was big news. Those were incredible times. Then the break-up, the breakdowns, and all the hetero relationships puts it all in a different perspective. Now this.

In the footage of her sitting up while being put into the ambulance that people are referring to, she was possibly still conscious and in a state of confusion (and terrible pain). From the reports I’ve read, it sounds like she lost consciousness shortly after the accident, likely while being rushed to the hospital. Irrespective of when she was precisely at the point of “lights out”, her last conscious moments had to have been utterly horrifying. I presume she has been brain dead since the day of the crash, but the family and doctors were giving her some time to see if there was any upward progress. It’s a tragedy even if the responsibility falls on her. It seems she was in a downward spiral for some time now, but I’m sure few expected it to end like this.

This is horrible.

Anne never hurt other people, just herself it seems. This mess is tragic.

She was incredible on Another World back in the day. I've always been impressed by her work.

Wish she'd gotten more help.

[quote]Anne never hurt other people,

Not for lack of trying.

[quote]This and the Windsor Hills crash on the same day. Such a shame, loss of life.

The Windsor Hills crash was on Thursday, August 4th, and Anne's crash was on Friday, August 5th.

Is she dead yet?

- Death Troll

R35 r59 I completely agree. Anne Heche dominated the media for weeks at that time. It was all about “Will audiences buy a gay actress in a straight romantic movie?” We were just getting out of the AIDS era and moving into the fight for marriage equality and Anne Heche and Ellen were part of that era.

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Oh please r62, that bitch will get a nice check from her insurance company and Heche's estate. Not too mention the added publicity and possible interviews as Heche's "last victim."

She was a very talented lady. This is a shame.

R62

Did she MEAN to crash into that house? To kill or hurt those people?

No. Least not as far as I can tell.

She was mentally unwell and using drugs...I feel badly for all involved.

She can donate her eyes.

So, what you're saying then, r67, is that "she" (I'm not sure which of the two different women you mean) is LUCKY this happened to her!

I think her heart should be OK too but who knows what kind of damage from all the drug abuse over the decades.

Here’s the link to the Gofundme for the woman whose house burned down, it’s at $134,000, which is not a lot, since she lives in LA, needs to hire a lawyer and replace all her things. It will likely take a long time for her to get any money from the estate, even if it’s not protected. And she’s lost all her business contacts, she’s going to have to start over trying to reconstruct everything. That’s not as much as it sounds like.

It’s kind of surprising to me that people aren’t doing more to help her, LA is very expensive to live in and she has to be very traumatized by this. She’s going to need therapy and a place to live.

I can be your bags!

- Anne Heche

[quote]Did she MEAN to crash into that house?

Clearly she had a death wish. Otherwise she would not been coked up out of her mind before she went driving (!) and crashed that car into TWO different buildings.

You are both legally and ethically responsible for horrible things you do even if you were drunk or drugged if you willingly took the substances yourself.

You need to get a life, r73.

So she went from talking in car as they were rescuing her to brain dead ? Something is off here . Why didn’t they give her oxygen on the stretcher? There could be negligence here

[Quote] And she’s lost all her business contacts, she’s going to have to start over trying to reconstruct everything. That’s not as much as it sounds like.

If she doesn't back her shit up to the cloud, then she's an idiot.

R77, her lungs were so damaged she couldn’t take in air. The brain damage may have happened after the accident, but if your lungs can’t work any more, the options are really limited. She wouldn’t have been a good subject for a lung transplant, even if one was available.

Shouldn’t an organizatia expert have backups?

No wonder she was poverty stricken.

Mishele is not an upscale name.

So we're clear the woman whose house was crashed into and belongings and rented home were burned up

1) deserved it because she probably didn't back up her documents in the Cloud; and

2) is a lucky bitch because she can go on talk shows and sue the estate.

Thus she deserves no sympathy and deserves only our contempt and envy.

[quote] It’s kind of surprising to me that people aren’t doing more to help her, LA is very expensive to live in and she has to be very traumatized by this. She’s going to need therapy and a place to live

How do you know people aren’t helping her that hasn’t been made public? People have gone thru worse with no media attention, no GoFundMe, no therapy. She’s not missing limbs or incapacitated. Get some perspective.

Remember her earlier breakdown, when she was "Celestia"?

Good times.

(At least Celestia didn't burn anyone's house down.)

R82 = Lynn Mishele, messing about on the internet instead of sorting her sooty belongings

[quote]Anne Heche actually helped to move the needle for gay people.

I know this is the wrong time to say this, but I think she moved the needle in the wrong direction. I think by switching randomly from gay to straight relationships she helped promote the idea that being gay is just a "lifestyle choice" or "trendy" or just something you do when you get bored.

R86 will be visited by three ghosts tonight.

- Touch my hand, and you shall be uplifted

R79 exactly. Given the severity of her burn injuries, a lung transplant wouldn't have been possible—her body would have been in far too delicate of a state to undergo an operation like that. Furthermore, there's obviously no point in transplanting lungs into a patient who is already braindead. The damage was unfortunately already done.

[quote]r23 This whole story is sad. So much talent and promise destroyed by mental illness and addiction.

At least DL can rest knowing it took the high road, backing poor Anne 100%

I’ve kind of been expecting this since the publicist’s first comment. Every time I come on here and see a thread about her bumped I think it might be because she died.

[quote]it took the high road, backing poor Anne

You may want to rethink that metaphor, R89.

R47 inhaling smoke and fumes from the interior of a burning car for 30 minutes is more enough to ruin your lungs and render you unable to breathe. All of the reports of her sustaining "pulmonary injury" would suggest that the brain death was caused by lack of oxygen, not head trauma.

Earlier in week, they gave the impression she would survive

She drove right through these bushes. Maybe they looked soft and pillowy.

Didn't Ellen's first girlfriend die in a car wreck after a fight they'd had at a concert? Trigger alert!

Actually, R89, I take that back. TAKING THE HIGH ROAD: THE ANNE HECHE STORY is the made-for-Lifetime TV movie we didn't know we needed.

Well!

Know when to fold ‘em

R96 really is as sick as he types

[quote] [R14] Her estate should be civilly liable for the damages, though who knows how long that would take.

It's California, she was required to have auto insurance. I would think her insurer is on the hook before anyone can get to her estate.

So her pop up on the gurney was her last waking moment? Is she just pretending to be asleep?

Such a sad ending to a life filled with tragedy. Notwithstanding her successful career, she had a difficult life scarred by abuse, trauma and dysfunction. Some of the things done to children cannot be undone in a lifetime. When she leaves this Earth, I sincerely hope she will rest in peace.

R78 = Carrie Bradshaw

Sad.

I was standin’ at the corner

Of Preston and Walgrove,

Yeah, you know the spot.

I was feeding my Tamagotchi

And thinking’ about makin’ some moves…

When the hedgerow, it exploded!

Like that new dragon show on Amazon

I have to admit

It looks boring and played.

[quote] [R86] will be visited by three ghosts tonight.

Let me guess- Gertrude Stein, Dusty Springfield and Dame Judith Anderson

[quote] This is a terrible way to go for her and her family.

HER FAMILY WAS IN THE CAR TOO?

It's a shame she didn't come to me for treatment for her addictions before things got this out of control. Well, sadly, I can't save them all...

R108 Honey you couldn't save any of them.

Like most addicts, she was probably in and out of therapy/rehab for decades. Normies have this idea that with enough therapy any problem can be cured. Unfortunately it doesn't work that way especially for those of us who were fucked up in childhood.

I wonder if the firemen didn't realize that a car had plunged into the depths of the home? No one seemed to see it; people just heard an "explosion". Then heard the emergency vehicles coming to put out a house fire.

Anne Heche is brain dead to me.

Answered prayers😇👼😇

They couldn’t get her quickly out of the car because that cheap rental house was so narrow and tiny the MINI was completely wedged in and there wasn’t room to open the doors. How could that small death trap house be worth a million dollars?? The renter couldn’t even afford to back up her contacts to ICloud for 99 cents a month.

Get me a drink.

Why couldn’t it have been Ellen instead?

I believe you, r96.

Fortunately, her passenger Celestia suffered only minor injuries and is expected to make a full recovery.

I don't understand, why didn't the fire fighters get her out of the car asap? they waited half and hour! the car could have exploded and who knows what else...

Has there been any comment from Ellen?

Yes, r121. Here is her statement in full:

I was reading about her two sons and it sounds like they were close. In a post, Anne said they looked out for each other when Homer was like 12 and the other one 5ish. And Anne had an episode where she claimed her husband (younger son's father) locked her out of the house -- and yet it turned out that her older son (by a different man) had spent the night at that house, and so the accused wondered if "sustained drug use" had something to do with her making up the weird claim, because she could have had her older son let her in, if she forgot the code or lost the key -- as he hadn't changed the locks/code, like she claimed.

I didn't explain that very well but it's easy to find reports about her custody battles - with BOTH sons, that went on for years and years.

Thoughts and prayers.

I didn't really follow this story, but why was the car on fire? I heard this rarely happens in real life and only in movies. So she was conscious and basically burning alive inside her car for 30mins and the FD couldn't help her?

If the people at the first crash scene managed to stop her, she could still be alive. Wow. What a sad tragedy. I hope she was drugged out of her mind and didn't really realize what was happening.

It's really good to know that both boys have dads that love them and fought for them (especially the younger one) -- and they aso have each other.

* ALSO have each other

Because of the fire and debris that fell on top of the car, the firefighters were unable to get to the car and remove Heche. They had a special fire truck with a crane, and had to attach steel cables to the car and literally pull it outside of the house using a winch.

Some dumb ass from fox news also made an ignorant comment, claiming that the firefighters were just standing around, without any sense.of urgency, and wrongly assumed the victim was probably already dead. They also kept referring to the victim as "he/that guy."

Softcore

Meh...

This is what the fire fighters saw upon their arrival to the house (note that their hoses have not filled with water yet). The car was another 30 feet further inside, covered in rubble, and the passenger doors were inaccessible. In addition to punching through the front wall (which had a large picture window), Heche's car obliterated the kitchen wall.

She'll be cremated, I presume?

It's so very sad and tragic.

[quote]Every time I come on here and see a thread about her bumped I think it might be because she died.

Because R90 has no connection to the real world or other news sources? The only thing I know about the world is what I read on Datalounge! Gee, her thread was bumped a lot. I remember Anne from my afternoon stories that I watched with Gramma.

DL just copies and pastes breaking news from Page Six Alerts. Are you aware how pathetic you sound old dude?

Anne Heche is dead and the bitch living in that garage will be making the rounds and collecting pity funds. More dog pics.

Heche was a pretty good actress and she didn't give gays or lesbians a bad name or reputation. That kind of thinking comes from weak and insecure old gays living in their town, still. At 60 years old. Nobody gives gays or blacks or Asians or women or worms or preachers a bad name but themselves. Heche was mentally ill - but she was living her life and following her heart and desires. Love is at least lust and being "gay" with Ellen cost Anne her film career. She went on to be a mom and remained a loving person. Troubled. Sad. Destructive.

Who the fuck checks Datalounge threads to find out if a famous person burned up in a horrendous car crash is feeling better? Or DEAD. Or preferably disfigured and charged with attempted murder! A lot of low level human beings on this site.

That heavy-rescue crane truck got there fairly quickly given that its housed at a fire station in Silver Lake.

From her wiki:

The family settled in Ocean City, New Jersey, when Heche was twelve years old. Due to the family's strained finances, Anne went to work at a dinner theater in Swainton.[9][10] "At the time we’d been kicked out of our house and my family was holed up living in a bedroom in the home of a generous family from our church," she said.[11] "I got $100 a week, which was more than anyone else in my family. We all pooled our money in an envelope in a drawer and saved up enough to move out after a year."[11]

On March 3, 1983, when Heche was 13, her 45-year-old father died of HIV/AIDS, which she believed was contracted from a homosexual partner: "He was in complete denial until the day he died. We know he got it from his gay relationships. Absolutely. I don't think it was just one. He was a very promiscuous man, and we knew his lifestyle then," Heche said on Larry King Live.[8] Heche said that he repeatedly raped her from the time she was an infant until she was 12, giving her genital herpes.[12] When asked "But why would a gay man rape a girl?" in a 2001 interview with The Advocate, Heche replied "I don't think he was just a gay man. I think he was sexually deviant. My belief was that my father was gay and he had to cover that up. I think he was sexually abusive. The more he couldn't be who he was, the more that came out of him in [the] ways that it did."[12] In a 1998 interview, she reflected that her father being closeted ultimately "destroyed his happiness and our family. But it did teach me to tell the truth. Nothing else is worth anything."[13]

Three months after her father's death, Heche's 18-year-old brother Nathan was killed in a car crash.[11] The official determination was that he fell asleep at the wheel and struck a tree,[6] though Heche claims it was suicide.

Holy shit, poor bitch. What's a bet she topped herself the same way her brother did.

told ya i was hardcore

Hardly glamorous

Anne Heche , Minnie Driver die in a house fire.

I'm going to factor-in 'mid-life crisis depression'. She was still wearing ripped jeans and going braless, not adjusting as an older lady.

A Mercedes in Paris IS glamorous

Menopause can play havoc with mental illness.

In other words, the world is about to become a little bit safer because Anne Heche will die soon.

RIP, Anne (Rot in Peace)

Minnie Driver!

What an unreal and unfathomable way to die. The fact that she had so many male lovers willing to go the distance with someone so cloying and damaged, yet she kept on being her inscrutable, yet "look at me and love me" life must speak to their commonality -- they couldn't keep the decades-long crazy lady alive.

This girl is on fire

^ clever ^

Say what you will but it took guts to be publicly in a same sex relationship in the 90s. She and ellen got a lot of shit from the media and public when they started dating. The useless Ivy League asswipes of SNL trashed her of course. They've always been nasty reactionary bullies.Anne was deeply damaged and perhaps could not have been saved. But she was a sharp and nuanced actress.

When it was revealed she had cocaine in her system, I no longer felt sorry for her. She could have killed more than herself while driving like a maniac.

I'm a big fan of dark and caustic humor. Pointless butchery, etc. But this is a sad story for everyone involved. Her state of mind, recklessness, lack of care about her children is heartbreaking. If you have a heart.

Serves her right driving drunk.

She got out in time, the world and planet is too fucked up and totally over anyways...

R128

Everyone thinks firefighters bust in as if real life is like the movies.

There was a house fire in my area years ago where neighbors blamed firefighters for the residents' deaths because the firefighters didn't just rush in like in Backdraft. Meanwhile, the neighbors had busted the windows trying to get into the house, which only fed the fire.

Regular people mostly just need to stay out of the way in these kinds of emergencies.

No one busts in to save anyone. The only person looking out for you is you.

[quote]r148 Say what you will but it took guts to be publicly in a same sex relationship in the 90s. She and ellen got a lot of shit from the media and public when they started dating.

It did derail Anne’s career somewhat… in addition to the fact that Ellen didn’t want her to work.

FAG!

R94, she did, and on the episode of Ellen that Anne famously guest starred in, Ellen rushes into the ER because she heard her girlfriend Laurie was in a severe auto wreck. Anne played Laurie’s ex-girlfriend who was also there checking in on her status. She figures out who Ellen is and decides to be play mind games with her. Eventually Laurie’s sister shows up at the hospital and makes a nasty comment about Anne’s character, telling her to leave because “that’s what she’s good at.”

Lots of weird parallels in that episode. Laurie was the name of Ellen’s dead ex. Her and Anne had a really nice chemistry in that episode. I think the idea was for Ellen to move on from the real Laurie to Anne symbolically and in the TV/PR narrative. Anne would eventually ditch her and die in her own horrible auto wreck.

[quote]I'm going to factor-in 'mid-life crisis depression'. She was still wearing ripped jeans and going braless, not adjusting as an older lady.

I don’t see an issue.

r155, They both got ENORMOUS, constant publicity and media cheerleading out of it. Her relationship with Ellen made her a STAH.

Ellen knew that, which is why she went to extraordinary lengths to detroy Anne Heche's reputation and career after the relationship ended. Ellen wanted to be damned sure that Anne got a lot less out of being with Ellen than she might have, and to ensure that if Anne used her, she profited as little as possible from it.

To the poster claiming they were "brave" and "how hard it was". Stop gaslighting those of us who were there. They were THE couple to be covering, to be seen with, to have at one's event. They were hardly "brave". The 90's was very pro gay and nobody can tell me othewise because I was fucking THERE.

The 80's? Now THERE was a time when it took courage to come out, mainly because of the stigma of AIDS, but the 90's were fabulous and free.

So why didn’t Marcia Cross come out in the 1990s, since it was so easy and popular to do?

I'm astonished at the lack of empathy for the woman whose house was destroyed. (Earlier threads showed far more concern for her and her pets, and were much more critical of Anne.) Something tells me that DLers might not be so blasé if their Hummel figurines/ Fiestaware were destroyed in the twinkle of an eye.

Ask Marcia Cross, r160. Not everyone comes out immediately. It can be anything from family reasons to having an agent who won't allow because they think they can sell you better as a hetero sex symbol.

R134 It’s because I don’t pay attention to Anne Heche otherwise, you fucking moron.

Yes, R161, it’s very sad. We can acknowledge it. But no one else died. It would be a much different story than it is. The Anne side is more compelling.

R159 you're dumb. It was not at all easy or accepted to be out and gay even in the 90s. It was certainly not as dangerous but there was still a lot of negative consequences to coming out and being visible about it.

If it was so great how come hardly anyone had come out by then, R159? Time magazine sure was dumb to put Ellen on the cover for such a mundane nothingburger

Suck that victimhood teat, r165. The gay culture which I came up in would have rather died than do that. we were fucking FIERCE.

But you do you.

Anne is no hero to gays.

Portia, gurl you in danger. See R94

R167 wtf are you on about. Rather die than do what? I didn't suppose anyone should do anything . I'm sure you and the sex in the city/will and grace lite life you imagined you were living while working in hoisery dept at the Kmart off rt 9 ( the nicer of Fuckstick Iowa's two Kmarts) was absolutely grand but nowhere near reality.

R82, because it’s more interesting to talk about the woman trapped in a burning car for an hour then the woman who lost an Etsy store.

I grew up in New York and London, dear, and you'll NEVER know how amazing it was, you poor deprived little thing.

I wonder if there’s any possibility she had a coke stroke in the car. Cocaine laced with fentanyl have been causing these like crazy on the east coast for the past couple of years. I wonder how her behavior was with the people at crash number one.

This was a good day for that mean bitch. Ellen, I mean. Medal of Freedom, really?

I'm happy for a gay person to be recognized and celebrated. Ellen didn't deserve this honor. She's a whitewashed toilet trained innocuous gay woman. She won't even say the word lesbian. Too radical. She came out and then immediately went about trying to reframe being gay in the most heteronormative ways. Anne Heche kind of screwed up Ellen's deal for a while. Because it was a predatory lie Ellen lived. She's not a bottom. Ellen's next ex Alexandra Hedison has been very happily married to Jodie Foster for many years now. They live quietly. No medal of Freedom for Jodie. She'd be mortified. Ha.

^^^ Gawd she looks like an evil gnome in that picture at r174

She really went out in a blaze of glory.

Aright it happens in 3s. Who is next? If we're gong with blondes, I'm not an Ann fan,but it doesn't' matter. I cannot deal with Deborah Harry, or Dolly.

I hope it's Lea Michele.

Those were the dayyyyyyssss

I am really bummed by this whole thing. I have always liked her. She was nutty, but (for the most part) endearingly so. Her problems were no doubt related to her abusive upbringing and dysfunctional family, as well as (ostensibly) some genetic predisposition to mental illness. Both of her parents were royally fucked up, and clearly did irreversible psychological damage on their children. Her family story is a tragedy of grand proportions—abusive father, a denialist Jesus freak mother, and all but one of her siblings predeceased her. The whole family seemed to splinter apart after her father's death, and they all estranged from one another. It's just plain sad.

As some have noted, Anne was a legitimate talent. Unfortunately, her role in the zeitgeist seems to be forever reduced to her relatively short relationship with Ellen; now, given the way she's leaving this earth, it'll be paired with her extreme self-destruction. Hopefully she'll at some point get some recognition for her acting, which was consistently very good. She gave great performances in Donnie Brasco, Six Days Seven Nights, Birth, My Friend Dahmer, and even the ridiculous Psycho remake (which I actually in truth find some enjoyment in). She could handle drama and comedy, and often stole the show in whatever she was in. She was a quirky and believable actress.

Oh Jesus, if Tina dies, I'm going to lose my mind for a whole. I know she's not a blonde. If she's the 3rd, I'm not going to be happy for a while.

No one is saying the woman whose house burn down deserved it out shouldn't mourn her loss so much as she'll benefit financially (insurance, gofundme, interviews, suing estate, etc.) But your painting her as someone Anne maliciously pursued. Anne was mentally ill and an addict and it makes no sense attack her now that she's brain dead. It was a target all around but the woman so be fine and will most likely come out of this even better than where she was before the accident.

Aright it happens in 3s. Who is next? If we're gong with blondes, I'm not an Ann fan,but it doesn't' matter. I cannot deal with Deborah Harry, or Dolly.

Is G considered a blonde?

Where does one's soul go, when one's brain is dead but heart is still beating?

r184 ask Donald Trump

[quote]R150 I'm a big fan of dark and caustic humor. Pointless butchery, etc.

Same.

Her candle burned out just before, her lesbianism never will...

Madonna would be a huge one. it's going to be someone like Brain Wilson.

[quote]In the footage of her sitting up while being put into the ambulance that people are referring to, she was possibly still conscious and in a state of confusion (and terrible pain).

I'm still convinced she was coughing and not entirely conscious, based on the couple of seconds we saw of her in the video that was taken from the sidewalk next to the ambulance. I don't think it was adrenaline or similar to some headless dead guy running back home after being dead or whatever. The jerky movement she made looked to me like she was trying to cough and wasn't able to while lying down, so sat up reflexively, like you would if you have a bad cold and are only half awake.

If her lungs were damaged enough that she couldn't properly get oxygen, it may have been a relatively slow progression from injured to brain dead. I mean "relatively" literally here, as in she may have been injured but somewhat conscious in the ambulance, but 5-10 minutes of hypoxia from lack of oxygen during the transport could have been enough to cause brain death, even if she was ventilated immediately upon arrival.

Liza too, sadly.

Madonna's way, wayyyy too high now ever to want to let go.

[quote]No one busts in to save anyone.

The neighbor got into Anne's car from the back to try to get to her, and even talked to her, asking if she was okay. She said no, and was still able to talk a little.

That's why the crazy stories about how the firefighters just stood around thinking it was a dead male don't make any sense to me, the neighbor alerted the firefighters to her being in the car immediately. It almost sounds like Fox et al. were deliberately trying to be nasty about it.

Oh no He he we hardly knew ya

Has anyone from the Another World cast commented? Has anyone checked on Anna Stuart?

I had been irritated with the "he he" thing, until earlier this morning when I used my phone to search for Anne Heche on Google, and my autocorrect really did try to change "Heche" to "He he."

California firefighters may be brave and strong as human beings, but they absolutely do NOT go in to help anymore until the danger is passed. Not worth it to them, I suppose.

Source: I was in Malibu during the 2018 Wolsey Fire, helping to save my friend's house with nothing more than constant, 24 hour application of garden hoses and pool water. We each took turns while the other slept.

We were in the fire for three days and nights and we saw TWO individual firefighters in a mini-truck in all that time. Two in 72 hours. This was across PCH from Zuma beach. Most of the area burned.

They simply never came. No one did, and nearly the entire area just burned down around us. My friend was a lifelong Californian, and knew that no one would save her house if we didn't stay and do it.

She was incredibly right.

I have no sympathy for Anne. I know that is cold but I am unable to do that. I have known three people who died as a result of someone who decided it was okay to drive while fucked up. I feel some sympathy for the woman who lived in the house Anne decided to use as a target but she's alive, she's uninjured, she can rebuild her life. The people who have my sympathy are Anne's children. My mother died in January of this year. She wasn't a young woman so her death, while sudden, wasn't entirely unexpected but her absence has made life seem weird and somehow wrong but I assume those feelings will be gone one day. Anne's children lost their mother so suddenly, so out of the blue and under such bizarre circumstances. They have to be reeling in shock, everything must seem to be unreal to them. Add to that the fact that Anne's impending death is happening under the glare of the media spotlight. The media can be vultures but that is a thought for another thread. Her children will probably have to deal with the legal fallout from Anne's crash. I am hoping that her car insurance company will take on that responsibility. Her children have enough to deal with as it is. I think we all knew Anne's death was a foregone conclusion. She was trapped in a burning car for an hour or so. There is no coming back from that.

Babawa Walters is the third blonde!

R140 = Madonna

I can't breath!

It's a minor miracle she didn't collide with another vehicle before plowing into that house. It looks like a pretty busy road she had to cross in order to get to it:

Would love to see the posters shit-talking the victim whose home burned down react to a coked-up has been actress driving 90mph straight into their homes without warning. I’m sure you all would feel terrible for the coked-up lunatic who burned your home down, destroyed all your belongings and rendered you and your pets homeless.

Ridiculous.

I feel horrible for Heche’s sons. And for the victim and her elderly dogs.

It’s a miracle Heche didn’t kill or injure anyone else - racing at that speed down a residential street. And keep in mind, she initially crashed into an apartment building’s garage, put the car in reverse and kept on driving before she tore down that street and drove into someone’s house.

Many people who live in big cities in the United States are now used to no help even arriving until the bodies are already getting cold, r202.

You can't blame them for simply having got used to it and then responding in that way.

Feeling badly for Heche because of how her life turned out doesn't mean we don't also feel terrible for Lynne, her doggies and turtle, and Anne's family. It's not an either-or situation. I wish people would stop claiming that it is.

Heche's actor friends have been tweeting about her, including Rosanna Arquette, who got a response from Joely Fisher (an "Ellen" sitcom cast member and fellow Heche friend).

[quote] I always wonder why people's kids would be liable for their outstanding medical/legal bills after they die

They're not, at least from their personal finances. The liability would fall on the deceased's estate. If the heirs inherited enough cash or property creditors could go after them for a cut of their inheritance, but not from their personal assets. If there is no estate left worth anything, creditors are SOL.

R202, why dont you start a telethon for your favorite endangered lighthouse and leave the rest of us out of your pathetic delusions of relevance.

I’m sure the woman that had her house burn will grift the estate for all it’s worth. These psychos on Twitter chastising celebs who know her for saying they’re sad is insane. Alec Baldwin worked with her in The Juror, they even had a sex scene together. I’m sick of all the autistic idiots who have no social skills, yet they’re telling everyone else how to interact in public.

[quote]These psychos on Twitter chastising celebs who know her for saying they’re sad is insane.

Participants of these same mobs, as they learn more about her, will eventually elevate her into some kind of folk hero.

Or perhaps they already know those things and are resentful that she was lauded and rewarded for a history of instability that's brought them no such riches.

Why I’ll Never Have a Severe Brain Injury

You call people psycho and autistic but claim the woman whose home was destroyed is a grifter? I assume you mean the tenant, but she lived through a high speed collision between a car and her home while sitting in said home with her three pets. The fact that they all survived is a miracle but she has lost everything she owns and will likely have severe PTSD for the rest of her life. And she’ll be a grifter, according to you. What is your problem?

Calling the owner or the renter of that house a "grifter" is just ridiculous. This is the exact kind of thing you sue the person, insurance company, and/or estate over.

Twitter simply needs to be shut down. It does no good and plenty of bad. Totally toxic community.

This lady wasn't asking for this.She did nothing but come home to find her house destroyed.

I don't care how terrible her wig and eybrows are - she's absolutely blameless.

Frau, pull yourself together. Why the handwringing over a renter? If you feel so obligated, send her $10k instead of God-bothering us on the DL, which accomplishes nothing but reminding the wolf that women are fucking humorless, tedious, nagging scolds in any and every context.

Finger wagging frauen are concerned.

To die in a Mini Cooper is the most tragic part of the whole story.

[quote]The fact that they all survived is a miracle but she has lost everything she owns and will likely have severe PTSD for the rest of her life.

Most people who suffer an unfortunate circumstance do not suffer from "severe PTSD for rest of their lives."

Wow.

There are some flaming trashbags of so-called human beings on this thread.

R96 (fucking psychopath), r134 and r215 need to go fuck themselves vigorously with a rusty chainsaw.

It’s not just an unfortunate circumstance. It’s the violent and unexpected event of having someone drive at high speed 30 feet into your house. It’s not like losing your home in foreclosure. It’s an event that will probably generate anxiety and fear for her physical safety for some time.

R219 = fat nagging fraucunt

[quote]To die in a Mini Cooper is the most tragic part of the whole story.

Except she didn’t die in a Mini Cooper.

People on Twitter are so vile. Imagine criticizing someone for being sad a friend is suffering. Even if the person acted badly they have a right to their feelings. Twitter is a cesspool for humanity.

The Suicide, as she is falling,

Illuminated by the moon,

Regrets her act, and finds appalling

The thought she will be dead so soon

[quote]Most people who suffer an unfortunate circumstance do not suffer from "severe PTSD for rest of their lives."

This is something I don't understand about the "Who gives a shit about Heche, won't someone think of the renter?" line of thinking. You can have empathy for everyone in a situation like this. You can think Heche was a POS and still be horrified by how her life ended.

"Her home was DESTROYED!" doesn't negate that the renter is alive and physically healthy, while Heche will have died one of the most grotesque self-inflicted deaths imaginable. In my twenties, my apartment was destroyed in the blink of an eye on a tranquil, snowy morning because of the misdeeds of my neighbors, so I'm not talking out of my ass.

One minute you're reading the newspaper and eating breakfast, the next you're vulnerable and homeless, uncertain if your possessions can be salvaged. All because of someone else's actions. (They started, and then ignored, a fire. Three fire trucks later, water destroyed whatever the fire hadn't.) It was traumatic, yes. But no one was seriously injured or died, so you pick up the pieces and move on. If you can't find a healthy way to move on from such things, you'll be as tortured as Heche your whole life.

What caused the brain oxygen deprivation? All the fentanyl in her system?

53 seems to be an age when many wealthy formerly lovely addicts give up and give in and die. George Michael was also 53 when he died. Many still think it was suicide, like Anne. I wonder what it is about that age -- 53?

R226, perhaps it was being stuck in a burning car inside a burning house?

She could have been the Amber Heard of her time, if she had hooked up with a big male star, except that she had talent unlike Amber.

I'd bet a lot of the people who are screaming this morning about how you shouldn't give a shit about the woman who lived in the house, were on threads yesterday screaming that you shouldn't give a shit about Anne Heche. There are a lot of really angry people on DL who work through their personality disorders by semi-randomly shouting at people for imagined infractions.

In fairness, the severe brain injury happened BEFORE the accident.

Sadly, we will never know why she wanted a blue wig (and settled for a red one) and was driving around that particular neighborhood. My guess is she was staking out someone and couldn’t find the house.

One of the most shocking things about this is seeing all the old photos of Anne and Ellen. How lovely they were! How stunning and iconic they looked as a couple. I totally forgot how Ellen used to look. Ellen was truly beautiful and had a very sexy body. Now Ellen looks like an old fuddy duddy elfin male.

It isn't quite 27 x 2, R227.

She has four siblings. Three of them already gone. Tragic.

I wonder if she was losing control of the car and thought she was just driving into bushes? Didn't the front of the house have big bushes hiding the structure?

Question upthread: "The accident happened in Mar Vista yet she's in a hospital all the way out in West Hills? Why?'

Answer: Grossman Burn Center is there. This world renowned center features plastic surgery-based, comprehensive treatment of burns from acute and reconstructive, to rehabilitation and psychological counseling.

[quote] The fact that they all survived is a miracle but she has lost everything she owns and will likely have severe PTSD for the rest of her life.

I know someone whose house burned down twice, (they were able to rebuild the first time) and they don't have severe ptsd. And this woman has gotten lots of donations, likely a huge future payday and lots of public sympathy. My friend didn't get any of that.

[quote]What caused the brain oxygen deprivation? All the fentanyl in her system?

Smoke inhalation, which causes airway swelling and lung damage, as well as carbon monoxide poisoning.

[quote]R208 These psychos on Twitter chastising celebs who know her for saying they’re sad is insane.

No matter the subject, celebrities on Twitter deserve chastising. I say to those inclined to do so...chastise away!

Anne Heche was never gay. It seems most of her relationships were with men . Was she with any other women besides Ellen? There are some sick people on this thread posting sick things. She's dead now, and it appears she was most dangerous to herself.

This is the best thing that could happen. She was in a burning car for an hour. No one can rehabilitate from that.

R131 That looked like such a cute little house.

She's been through a lot in her life and made some horrible decisions. This is a sad outcome for her and I hope that she can finally rest in peace.

I hope she haunts Ellen.

R12 what is an estate of a celebrity?

R12, how are the kids liable if it's their parent's estate that's being sued? It's not their money, it's the estates.

RIP ANNE HECHE

I'm really taken aback by the nastiness on this thread towards the renter. She did absolutely nothing, and yet many here are attacking her pretty viciously, apparently just for her house being in the way of Anne's car.

Just shut the fuck up, r249.

No1curr about the renter, the landlord, the fucking tortoise, the apartment complex, the trashy little town, the damage to the siding, the crispy ‘n lost business contacts, or anyone else.

God, women are unbelievably tedious. Go call up your prayer group. I’m sure none of them will pick up either.

🙄

[quote]The woman will never get any credit for it, and I will probably be excoriated for saying it, but back in the day, back in 19-fucking-97, Anne Heche actually helped to move the needle for gay people. She did that whether or not she ultimately identified as gay herself. I won’t forget that and I hope other people don’t forget it either.

That's where Ellen could step up. Ellen could give credit where it is due and put aside her ego and feelings for once and acknowledge how groundbreaking that was for people. Even if the relationship didn't end well, she could acknowledge the influence that BOTH of them had on mainstreaming LGBTQ acceptance.

[quote]No1curr

Holy shit, is it 2014 already?

R250 = Edge Lord Supreme.

Ellen is a huge bitch but come on, let her process what's happened before forcing her to address it publicly beyond what she's already said.

Weird.

Heche is being treated at the Grossman Burn Unit - founded by the father of Dr. Peter Grossman, according to Showbiz411.

His wife, Rebecca Grossman, has been accused of killing two brothers, aged 11 and 8, as they crossed a street with their parents on a marked crosswalk. She has pleaded not guilty."

I’ve watched the video of Anne Heche peeing on me 5 times today. I’m so fucking sad she is such a great gal :(

Since Anne has a minor child, I wonder if that will effect her estate. A lawsuit couldn’t just take money away from a child after their parent dies, can it?

I know that claims against an estate must be made within a certain number of days after death. If, say, Anne died with a property tax lien, the municipality would make a claim and the amount would be paid from her estate before the heirs would get a penny.

But if there are minor children, I don’t know what happens.

Anne publicly cuckholded Ellen- ditching her for Coley Laffoon the cameraman and then getting pregnant. I’m sure Ellen doesn’t give one fuck about this. She probably rolled her eyes, said good riddance and went back to processing some seemingly minor argument with Portia.

Despite her being a nut, this is an extremely sad situation.

Watching a couple of videos of her being interviewed, although she had her problems and demons from her childhood....she seemed very atturned to herself and had some very intelligent things to say and advice of overcoming our obstacles. It's too bad she didn't follow that advice, especially the day of the crash.

[quote] It’s a miracle Heche didn’t kill or injure anyone else - racing at that speed down a residential street.

It IS a miracle. I am thankful that she didn't kill or injure anyone else. I have compassion for Anne, we know she suffered in her lifetime. Like every substance abuser she self-medicated because she had trauma and she could not heal.

r232 didn't she have a blue wig when she was on x, broke into someone's house, claiming she was Celestia?

Also, I don't know how many of you been on head on collisions, but when the airbags deploy and deflate, there is a powder that get released that feels really caustic to breathe in. Then add the smoke from the fire, and your lungs are toast.

The nastiness on this thread towards the renter seems to be due to her being seen as diverting sympathy some people feel is due properly instead to Anne.

My guess is that some posters want everyone to feel sorry for Anne because they themselves either have or have had serious substance abuse problems, and so are thinking, "That could have been me."

[quote] A lawsuit couldn’t just take money away from a child after their parent dies, can it?

Yes.

Enough self-flagellation.

This is DL. Cast the Lifetime movie.

Was this , in actuality, a suicide?

Adam Kinzinger as Ellen.

[quote]God, women are unbelievably tedious.

DL has a small subset of gays like R250 who are total misogynists and either don't care or are too stupid to realize it, but they invariably show up on any thread about women dying or suffering or women being humiliated. If they have a choice, they'll be slightly more sympathetic towards a rich and famous woman, but they're always gleefully nasty whenever anything terrible happens to some ordinary anonymous woman.

I’d love to see what Cate Blanchett could do with the character of Anne Heche. I honestly think that would be brilliant.

[quote]how are the kids liable if it's their parent's estate that's being sued? It's not their money, it's the estates.

The kids would normally inherit the estate. But now some of that money will go to Miss Rental and her burned business cards. So the kids will get less.

I’ll be here when something happens to you, r268.

“Sexism is gross, you guys!!!1”

You’re fat. You always were.

I don’t think the renter will get that much. She wasn’t injured. And she doesn’t own the property. All she lost were her possessions, which can’t be that much because that house was the size of a closet.

Juno Temple as Anne.

It’s the weird woke moralism where there’s no such thing as nuance or universal empathy. It’s black and white thinking. One person is the villain and the other is the innocent victim. Someone lost their home so we also can’t feel bad for the woman who burned to death slowly in her car.

I look forward to when we go back to a world where moral narratives aren’t established by people with cluster B personality disorders.

James Charles as Homer Lafoon.

I’m so sick of hearing about this tragedy. Just stop!

R274, you’re mistaken.

I don’t care about either one of them, equally.

Ali G as one of da coppahs.

The van down by the river as the condo.

She could get moving expenses and money to find a new place, R272.

I wonder if the homeowner's insurance will also sue Heche's estate? There'll be a whole ton of factors that will come into play here. The homeowner herself shouldn't have to face a rise in her deductible and her insurance won't want to cover the cost of rebuilding, so I wouldn't be surprised if they take a piece of whatever is left in the estate.

What?

I hope the homeowner’s insurance company isn’t negatively impacted this quarter!

Horror. Horror.

One of the Summerall brothers as Homer Heche.

Who will play Salman Rushdie, the villain who heartlessly diverts the keening media’s attention?

I feel so bad for Anne. 53 is so young to die and those 2 young children who will be left without a mother. I wish somebody took her keys after that first crash.

Adam Sandler’s ugly daughter as Peter Thomas Roth.

Tom Daly as Coleman Lafoon.

R48 it can actually help breathing. It is advised for covid when having respiratory symptoms.

My $0.02 as to what happened (as someone with a little medical knowledge). She was flailing about on gurney initially because she was still highly inebriated, in a lot of pain, and likely pissed off at the EMS crew for moving her about causing her more pain. Hospital staff likely noted she had signs of inhalational injury and preemptively intubated her. The inflammation in her lungs caused massive edema, making her lungs essentially useless at delivering oxygen. No oxygen = organ failure = brain death. The end. Sorry if this has already been answered. I’m too tired to go through other posts.

Yeah, so? That’s obvious.

Tummy, R48? Are you nine?

Breckin Meyer as James Tupper.

Nikki Haley as Padma Lakshmi.

Amber Heard as Anne He He

[quote]A trust cannot be sued [R45].

An estate can certainly be sued, and the executor of the estate, or the Trustee of the trust, (often the same person) is required by law to settle any debts the estate has. There is a certain time period for any creditors to file a claim against the estate.

If a court became involved, the court would not allow the trust to be dissolved and distributed until all claims or debts the estate had were settled.

If there is a case against Anne's estate due to this incident, it could delay the dissolution of the trust and distribution of its assets for a long time.

Your lungs are actually more toward the back of your torso, so patients frequently pronate (lie prone) when they're having trouble breathing, because it helps respiration.

In early COVID days I read a lot of healthcare professionals talking about how difficult it was to get people to pronate for a while, because COVID was so painful that turning over was impossible for many of them.

A young Vincent Price as Thomas Jane.

[quote] It’s the weird woke moralism where there’s no such thing as nuance or universal empathy. It’s black and white thinking. One person is the villain and the other is the innocent victim. Someone lost their home so we also can’t feel bad for the woman who burned to death slowly in her car. I look forward to when we go back to a world where moral narratives aren’t established by people with cluster B personality disorders.

Your demonizing other people via inexpert armchair diagnoses hardly alleviates the problem you describe. It only worsens it.

Home = non-U

- House

Always reminded me of Squeaky Fromme in a blonde wig

Actually, not that young…

- r297

Homer has a stepmother.

Bonnie Hunt for the role of Lynne Mishele.

R285 How did she procreate with Ellen Degenerate?

If there's a musical about this there ought to be a role for Gene Kelly.

R90 did not deserve R134's vitriol.

🙄🙄🙄

Gene Nelson as the Prince of Minor Inconveniences.

R218 Vietnam, Kuwait, and Iraq Vets may disagree with you. Besides, how do you know? Have you ever been inside a house when a car crashed into it?

Maybe they can donate her body to the dogs of the woman whose house got destroyed as reparation?

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

Sorry, r310, we don’t do the hard stuff.

- Organizer’s Dawgs

You're making a gay = degenerate joke on a gay forum?

The Dallas Cowboys as the Vietnam, Iraq, and Kuwait veterans.

If she's an organ donor and was UDI when the accident happened, they keep her alive as long as it takes for the system to neutralize the alcohol so that they can give her organs to organ recipients without stressing those recipients' weak immune systemes.

Sad but true.

Tim Tebow as Nude Guy Presenting Hole

*and was driving under the influence

Herro!!!!

Papa John as John Bircher Whole Foods CEO Mackey.

[quote]If she's an organ donor and was UDI when the accident happened, they keep her alive as long as it takes for the system to neutralize the alcohol

It’s been a week. I think they’re in the clear.

Erika Jayne as Portia.

R320, maybe there are othe substances ivolved that are less simple to get rid of.

Will her vagina be donated to a transwoman?

^ 😂😂😂

Was that before she went into the car?

They can’t do brain death criteria until all intoxicating substances are metabolized, so they’re already past that point.

They should upload her EMR to Twitter.

Looks like I've been donating a couple of letters prior to writing R322. Oh dear.

We shouldn’t do this in drips & drabs, piecemeal, it’s undignified!

Crash - Dave Matthews

Great Balls of Fire - Jerry Lee Lewis

What was Anne Heche's favorite restaurant?

Sizzler

It’s fucking undignified.

Well!

r134 is the Ancient White Fags Troll, who was just outed as a middle-aged Canadian white man in the Shania Twain thread. The stupid fuck forgot to switch accounts before he posted personal info. What a fucking loser.

I spoke with Ellen. She believes she can help her out of the coma. She’s going to the hospital and is going to tongue the life into Anne’s (now smoked) salmon. If there’s anything that can shock your back to life it’s a tongue orgasm.

Per her best friends Instagram, she has passed.

Nothing on google about her passing yet.

Who is that and what is the link, r336?

R336, you know very well to provide a link.

It’s on Nancy Davis’s instragram post

Will this be played at the funeral?

So fucking link to it then.

Here's the link since the idiot above won't link to it himself:

She's DEAD bitches. D-E-A-D dead. Hope heaven has some good coke waiting for her.

Here’s the sizzle reel, B-roll already there, just need a few closeups

Well

She is still alive according to her Wiki.

r344 in the *Ann Coulter* thread:

[quote]She's right about immigration. We're taking in too many backwards garbage people with primitive, medieval cultures. Its not good for America.

[quote]She makes some good points, even if you aren't a Republican.

[quote]Sorry r55 but you're wrong. She right about immigration. We don't need or want to import the third world.

[quote]I liked what she said in the Oxford interview about visiting London and seeing Muslims everywhere, and wondering where the fuck all the British people are. That is what EVERYBODY thinks when they visit London these days but Ann at least has the balls to say it out loud.

[quote]It's interesting to hear Ann speak out loud what many people think to themselves. I'm quite liberal, but I do understand her comment on America needing a break from mob immigration

What’s your point?

That Nancy bitch is making it all about herself. Look at the pics, LOL. What a weirdo.

Wiki isn't always fast about changing information. If she's gone now....then, RIP Anne He He.

AND r348? Pulling quotes to try and "shame" a person you disagree with? Whatevs, bitch.

Go take you sensitive ass over to Reddit if you don't like gay gallows humor.

Can somebody give r348 some coke, Fentanyl and the car keys? TIA.

R348 You’re a fucking loser. Get a life.

r348 is the absolute worst of this board.

I accept all superlatives!

The firefighters were incompetent which comes as a surprise. The car easily could have been pulled from the house with a chain attached to one of the trucks. Waiting for a crane to arrive from cross town is dev world efficiency.

Will Ellen attend the funeral?

[quote] I wonder if the homeowner's insurance will also sue Heche's estate?

You bet they will.

Insurance companies sue anyone that they can to cover their payouts. This will include Anne's car insurance (which will reach a limit, and then she/her estate would be fair game), any liability insurance she has (most wealthy people have an extra policy), the house insurance of the home owner, and the property insurer of that apartment garage that she hit.

Most likely get together and settle out of court with Anne's lawyers, since there is only a finite amount of money in her estate. (She probably was not super rich.)

The first to sue/get to her money will be the hospital. Those bitches don't wait.

Are they waiting for Ellen, or Portia, to pull the plug? Ellen seemed so cold about it - "We're not in touch with each other, so I wouldn't know,” after being asked if she’d been in contact with Heche after the crash."

I don't think you're capable of feeling shame, r352. Just shining a light on you.

It is up to the son to make the decision*; I hope Anne's sister is there with him.

*Unless her medical paperwork is in order, which, judging from her personality, I would doubt.

Mar Vista is an insatiable bottom!

This is very sad news, I had hoped she would make it for the sake of her children and family.

Mental illness and addictions are terrible, most people can’t comprehend what it’s like for the individual suffering or the effects on their loved ones who are left feeling frustrated and helpless, it’s tragic for all involved.

I’m glad she didn’t kill anyone at least, the house and material possessions can be replaced and both the owner and tenant have my sympathy as well, they didn’t ask for this and do not deserve the online vitriol.

R364 I don't think old family pictures can be replaced when they have been destroyed by a druggie cunt

Stop it, R357, no they weren't. You're talking out of your ass. The car was 30 feet into the house.

You're probably one of the same morons who bitched that rescuers in Surfside weren't working fast enough after the condo collapse (and that no one was checking the fucking cabins for Naya Rivera).

The news of her death is confirmed by The Guardian.

After taking a shower, Heche entered the living room, asked for a pair of slippers, and suggested that they should watch a movie. Heche later told the deputies that she was "God, and was going to take everyone back to heaven in a spaceship."

I guess she wasn't successful this time either...

[Quote]Stop it, [R357], no they weren't. You're talking out of your ass. The car was 30 feet into the house.

What do you think the crane did, imbecile? They used a chain. Yeah, we live on property and we regularly move large machinery around so I do know know what the fuck I'm talking about.

But do carry on, fish gash.

RIP, Anne

So she only died because she was an entitled celeb who thought she was above the law and didn't need to get out of the car when the cop told her so? She probably threw a hissy-fit in the car, thinking to herself "Nope, this cop ain't gonna ruin my career with a scandalous arrest, I rather flee the scene". Then she drove off like the drunk whore she was, endangering others and ruining that woman's house. What an idiot.

R371, there wasn’t a cop at that scene. If you think that He He was in her right mind and thinking of her career when she drove off, you haven’t been following this story very closely. You seem to need to construct a story to focus your anger. God bless.

R223, I rarely see any of that on Twitter. How about elevating your follow requirements? Lots of science, music, art, literature, government, international, interests of all types. And you have something interesting to share with your followers as well.

"Vicky" @ 0:18

I just did a quick google because I was curious if insurance companes cover you if you're impaired (the way life insurance won't pay if you kill yourself):

"Does insurance cover DUI accidents in California? Generally, insurance companies in California are not required to pay for damages caused by an intentional and illegal act. Upon first consideration, this makes it sound like insurance companies will not pay for drunk driving accidents, as DUIs are illegal."

R371 = frau

Dlisted-level comment. Sad!

[quote]The firefighters were incompetent which comes as a surprise. The car easily could have been pulled from the house with a chain attached to one of the trucks. Waiting for a crane to arrive from cross town is dev world efficiency.

Well, at least they performed better than the cops at Uvalde who waited 70-something minutes before confronting a killer who had a bunch of little children in the room with him (and the cops had weapons and the children were helpless).

But to the Heche case, maybe they had to put the fire out to safely get inside to the car? Though if they had already done that and stood there waiting for a crane, then yeah, that's appalling.

She would have survived if she crashed into a wider house. That rental was so small they couldn’t open the doors to get her out.

Her death is not the firefighters fault. Stop being ridiculous.

She's lucky to have died, burns are painful and disfiguring. Not to make this about me, but my grandfather accidently set his pajamas on fire and had third-degree burns all over his back. He had to be treated at the state burn unit; I heard burn patients crying and screaming in agony.

She was in for a whole lot of agony -- unless they've found a way to medicate people with terrible burns so they don't suffer.

They have to have bandages repeatedly changed - the wounds cleaned up - it's just staggeringly painful, so I've heard. Maybe treatment has improved and they sedate people before working on their wounds, but that has to be done frequently or infection would kill them for sure.

Then there's the damage to her lungs, which I don't even want to contemplate.

R381 alcohol lung?

Burnt lungs..

Don't most people who die from fires die from smoke inhalation?

I don't know what alcohol lung is, R382. She had soooo much potential lung damage - the smoke, the crap that comes out of airbags, the melting plastics inside the car (I think some of that gets in the air and can be inhaled at high temps).

I hope all these considerations help her son Homer feel better about the decision he's had to make - and surely her other family or exes, friends, etc., would help him. There was a video of him and her podcast partner having a long hug in the hospital parking lot, and a different young woman left the hospital with him -- then at house later, there were two women about his age photo'd (probably by DM) leaving his house and he was at the door, shirtless, saying goodbye to them -- and they had shorts and halter tops - very sexy girls, not that that's important... but implies he has some good, supportive friends.

R371:

No cop.

She wasn’t a whore.

Fuck off.

Oh lord - that just makes it worse. And how did she use the cocaine? If she snorted it, that's not exactly good for your nose and throat, either, and may affect lungs?

And really, all this is irrelevant if she was declared brain dead. Which would effectively make Homer's decision pretty clear - and I'm sure the doctors would help him understand.

Oh, Victoria.

May she know peace.

She's listed as having died today on both wikipedia and imdb.

it's over.

Maybe if they open a bottle of wine next to her cadaver she will wake up again?

Well, the kid has a father to support him, so it’s not as if he’ll be left homeless.

If Anne Heche didn’t want her estate to be decimated by lawsuits, she should have stopped driving when she plowed into that garage.

r361 = lips pursed tighter than a cat's asshole

Her brain laterally explored…

[quote]r263 The nastiness on this thread towards the renter seems to be due to her being seen as diverting sympathy some people feel is due properly instead to Anne.

You know who the renter is? She’s a Charlie Nobody, that’s who she is!

[quote]r269 I’d love to see what Cate Blanchett could do with the character of Anne Heche. I honestly think that would be brilliant.

But it will be too scary and dreary if we don’t get Young Anne, too? Blanchett can’t pull that off.

I looked at the younger boy's dad's Facebook and he seemed so devoted to the kid (his only one and dad's around 50). That made me feel better.

Judging from Homer's girlfriends - apparent closeness to his younger half-brother (whose dad let Homer stay at his house), he has a stepmother and two young half-sisters (preteens or early teens I think).

Anyway, makes me feel better about the future for those kids, as awful as the immediate future must be for them. Maybe they'll be open to therapy, if it's extra rough-going.

Any twink-of-the-moment can play young Anne. Who’s that ugly guy hanging out with Elordi?

Lady Gaga for Anne? (though not pretty enough) I guess Michelle Pfeiffer is too old now. I really need to keep up with my celebs better than I do.

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I’m DONE with this dimension.

Later, bitches!

Two children have lost their Mom.

Well, one of them is 20, but yeah - the other one is 13. At least the younger one has a very close relationship with his father, as an only child.

And Homer has dad, stepmom, two younger half sisters, and the younger half-brother that he's stayed fairly close with.

I've been a bit haunted by this news all day. Something about Anne was compelling. Poor little soul.

How shocking, brain injury and all this time I was under the impression she lacked a brain.

Brendan Fraser as the Turtle.

Chrissy Metz as the Mini Cooper.

I’m still confused about how she went from sitting up and flailing around on the stretcher to ‘brain dead.’ The brain has to be deprived of all blood flow and oxygen for several minutes for that to occur. I guess her lungs were so fried that they couldn’t absorb any oxygen at all despite manually ventilating her. Yikes.

I think someone said on one of the videos of her rising up on the gurney that it looked like she was coughing. Maybe she was gasping for air?

Though she answered that neighbor who tried to help her, when he said, "Are you ok?" - she was able to say "No"

I guess damage takes a while to take full effect. I've heard of people shot who are bleeding out but they're able to walk a ways, talk to people, etc. Not everything shuts down immediately.

R406 Even if it prolly has monkey pox, I totally wanna lick your ass clean. That was funny. I always love a good bon mot from a 'mo.

Miles Heizer's ugly fucking dogs as Lynne's doggos.

[quote] Though she answered that neighbor who tried to help her, when he said, "Are you ok?" - she was able to say "No"

But that was when Manpearl, the neighbor, first got there. The firefighters didn't get her out for another hour.

I thought she crashed three times. It was only twice?

The miracle or whatever you want to call it was that she was alive after it took so long to get to her. The burns alone would have probably killed her.

From what I have read she was a sweet person with a kind heart, that unfortunately had demons.

3 times R412. The garage, a vehicle and the home.

They need to sue Mini Cooper. Who knew they were such death traps?

Collision for Lulu?

R416 is 8 hundred and 47 years old. What the fuck was a Lulu? I bet R416 gives one without teeths!!!

Mini Coopers are everywhere in L.A.

Not a great car to die in.

The Mini Countryman she was driving is actually pretty hefty.

Then why did it crumble like a deck of cards?

[Quote] Mini Countryman

I miss Dudley Moore!

R417 is an embarrassment.

R417 is a KING. What was a lulu? Was it done on your knees at a gloryhole in the 1950s? You seem to be an expert R421. You're the same poster as R416. How many years past eighty are you now? Bless you tonight. Dead men appreciate your 60 years of cocksucking service. What a legacy you leave.

Is this the (white) Canadian masquerading as AWF Troll?

Suck Cocks, Not War.

R244 "...I hope she can rest in peace."

Why do people say this? She's DEAD, she's not "resting", in peace or otherwise.

Who but ancient OLD white fags post a picture of some old Brit car show model in 1969 to make a comment on the Mini Cooper that Heche crashed?

Why are the posters here so OLD and out of touch. And RACIST. And insane like R423?

1969 was 53 years ago. When y'all were 30 years old. We get it. Even then you needed to kneel behind a wall with hole to get some BIG dick.

So don't blame the KINGS of the world now.

It's weird to think that the AWF Troll has been Shawn Mendes all along.

[Quote] WE both work in NYC.

Assaulting Asian commuters is not working, dear.

We ain't had to commute with commuters in 15 years. Sometimes late at night....we take a ride.

Asian boys are cute and the ladies are beautiful. I assault no one.

It's the lispy white fags who smell sour and roll their eyes like teenage girls and ain't sexy at all. Even if they got some ASS on them. They can buy my jocks and sox. And they do. But I ain't touching that. Don't matter if they're 22 or 82, like you R428. I was raised right. I ain't never touched a white man unless we were accepting an award together.

All those lispy ridiculous white men to OLD white bone hole deep RACIST WHITE FAGS and things could get violent. But they never do. I'm built bigger than your men and I'm too sexy to mess with. Call me names on the internet. IRL, it costs you to get close to me. If you ain't my friend or colleague. Then white fags are OUT.

You can just Venmo the money and you'll get my underwear and sox like last week. That a bitch. I make more money off those white fags then when I was a young starving KING who charged $300 to lick and blow me. ONLY. Do NOT touch ME with your hands. EVER. Gay white men have tissue paper for skin and always smell like sour milk & fresh shit. Why y'all shit so often. No good holes. Smell like shit. Faggotty Fags got to pay for beautiful Black Men. Same as it ever was. Y'all not hard to find.☮️

r417 Lulu!

SO I'M CHOPPED FUCKIN LIVER AM I?!

Because a house collapsed on it R419 ?

Will someone tell that uppity nigger who Lulu is before she embarrasses herself any further

Lulu was, and still is a well known English songstress. She was very popular when she was in her teens, with several hits on the pop charts.

She starred in "To Sir, With Love" alongside Sidney Portier. She also sang the movie's theme song.

She was married to Maurice Gibb, one of the Bee Gees.

No one has heard of Lulu.

Who gives a fuck about Lulu! Get off my thread

The only time I heard of this Lulu chick is because she used to be a punchline on Absolutely Fabulous.

I had to look her up.

She’s one of those Brit stars no one else cares about.

LuLu and her gay fans lived out their full lives. RIP.

This thread is a more somber meditation on a troubled woman and the special nature of her human suffering. The lives she touched and damaged. Often one and the same. Her gift. Grown from pain. Her spirit seems around us bit, still. Strange. Rest in power Anne Heche. Give a witches twist to the future.❤

So Sad.....

It’s deeply Canadian to boast about working in NYC.

I got more money than any of you old poofs put together!

There really wasn't anyone like her. She was so startling in that movie 'Birth'. Far and away the most interesting thing about 'Psycho'. 'Walking and Talking' is a wonderful film. All in all I think she'll be remembered as a fine actress.

R442 I love the scene in Birth where she brusquely confronts the boy claiming to be Kidmans husband. Such a sharply and intelligently acted scene.

Shut up, Leaf.

Heh heh heh.

Idiot.

I, MYSELF, AM TOO SEXY TO MESS WITH!

Does the DM not know Canada is one of the Queen's Realms (Dominions).

Jayne Mansfield, Grace Kelly, Princess Diana, Anne Heche....will someone put that blonde cunt Madonna in a car!

Don't fuck leaf women they're mostly fat men in wigs anyway.

On my way Dame Elton, you old bitch

[quote]She’s one of those Brit stars no one else cares about.

Everybody loves Lulu, she's just a nice person, inoffensive and comforting because she's been around forever.

Lulu is an icon.

I assume r417, r426, r429 are trolling, but if not, I'll never understand the disdain for older people, their experiences, their knowledge, and history in general.

I'm SCOTTISH, ye bawbags!

r435 = Cilla Black

Can someone start a separate Lulu thread?

Lulu AND Minnie Driver!

Emma Bunton was such a weak substitute for Lulu.

WEHT Olivia Newton John?

R451, Indeed. PR darling, PR!

Well, she’s no Petula Clark.

Leslie Jordan as Ellen.

Why didn't they freeze her cryogenically instead of taking her off life support. In 20 or 30 years they will have the technology to fix the burns and the brain injury. Maybe even sooner -- 10 years? What a waste.

Pa Murdaugh as Ellen.

When Anne sat up on the gurney it looked to me (from the overhead shot) as if she was reaching for her legs. If they were fractured and/or burned it made sense to me she would react that way. Then I saw the side footage and it looked more like general flailing from pain, confusion, panic. A hard way to go.

But has she died?

Gary Busey as Ellen

I wish Joan Rivers was still hill to take the piss out of this Heche dying circus

here not hill lol