Anne Heche in coma; injuries much worse than initially reported.

Anne Hashbrown.

Couldn't you have simply informed one of the two ongoing threads?

I really hope people who joked about this feel bad about what they said.

Yes, "pointless bitchery" and so on, but this woman has very serious psychosis and she should not have been a laughing stock.

^ She also shouldn't be allowed out in public driving, but here we are

Pull the plug!

Nor to drink and drive. She knew she was getting drunk in her podcast and drove. That isn't psychosis. It is criminal.

I feel so sorry for everyone in this horrible mess that anne made. Sorry for the horrible pain she is on , sorry the the poor girl whose life was upheaved because if anne negligence, sorry for her children. What a MESS.

Yeah, that 90 mph in a residential neighborhood reduces my ability to empathize. I worked as an insurance transcriptionist for four years. In my first eight days I transcribed interviews of people involved in three fatal accidents. And I did a lot more as time went on.

No one who goes through that exercise has any fun. Not the insurance agent, not the transcriptionist, not the witnesses, and not the person who killed one or more people.

I shed no tears for He he.

r3 you sound like a scold. Why are you here?

I can’t imagine her face made it through the crash and fire without getting fucked up beyond repair.

I don’t feel bad for her AT ALL - I feel bad for her children and mostly for the poor woman who was minding her own business when Anne Heche drove her drunk ass into her home and burned it down.

Hard to feel sad for rich drunks.

Who will play Celestia in the movie? Will it be M or G?

She will be returning to her home planet soon.

It’s sort of impractical to eat the rich, so I can at least take pleasure their tragedy.

Is a blue Mini Cooper the new 'White Bronco'?

At least she'd be medium-rare, R15.

[quote]At least she'd be medium-rare, [R15].

Put a fork in her, she's done.

Drunk on her podcast?

Her podcast was released that day. Podcasts aren’t typically released the day they’re recorded. Lots of post-prod work has to happen before it’s uploaded, so let’s stop the nonsense about there being any relationship between the podcast and the accident(s).

She was clearly quite troubled. Drunk every day perhaps. But the podcast has nothing to do with anything.

From the Gofundme above. It has to be somebody here, right?

Peri C $25•22 mins That stupid bitch ran into your house and the only thing the news talks about is her well-being. She could’ve killed someone. I’m so sorry this happened to you. Take this $25 and get some margaritas. It’s all I got for now.

There was one guy arguing on one of the threads that she barely looked like she was burned and that her shirt just looked like it had dirt on it. We have medical backgrounds and he was arguing with us

I think they may have put her in a medically induced coma. I don't know if any of you know anything about burns, but the worst part is when the staff have to change the dressings. They give them as much pain killer as possible then they remove the dressings and scrape the dead skin off. It's like hell on earth. Poor Anne

R11, her house was worth almost $1 million. I'm sure she has insurance. It's still shitty what happened to her

In order to know how severe her burn injuries are, you would need to know the degree of her burns and the percentage of her body that is burned. The coma is the body's way of trying to heal itself.

[quote]Podcasts aren’t typically released the day they’re recorded.

r19 Typically not, but sometimes they are. The Watch has episodes that are released the same day, for example. Depends on what you want from the editor, they can release it the same day with no problem. They're usually recorded in advance so that if something happens on the day of the recording, the podcast still goes out.

[Quote] I really hope people who joked about this feel bad about what they said.

R3 do you know where you are? Are you okay? How many fingers am I holding up?

I wonder if the surgical procedure was an escharotomy. Compartment syndrome is a real risk for severe burns.

Also, somebody's gotta say it...iPod?

"Life is a Highway" and "Every Day is a Winding Road" surely.

VoTN, you may find this thread of interest.

I suspect they induced the coma because of the severity of the burns and pain.

Holy shit, VotN! Missed you expertise in few comic book threads over the last few years. Heard you were in medical school and R26 sounds like it. Hope all is well ❤️

The coma was NOT induced as per whatever article I read, I think deadline. Too lazy to check. Can someone check? TIA!

I feel so bad her. Anne Heche has lived a life of suffering and now it seems like the moments she spent in intense fear and agony during and shortly after the accident will be her last moments of consciousness. So a life of pain, a painful accident, and now death will be coming to take her. But I believe with God's love, He will bring her to Heaven where she will never feel pain again. The peace she could never get in life will come to her with God's mercy. So perhaps she will be better off when the inevitable happens.

I read a book years ago about the burn unit at Massachusetts General (since closed) so while not up on current medical practices I know a little about what severe burns are like. She deserves what she got.

PS I’ve suffered from moderate to severe depression all my life and have experienced my share of trauma, but would never dream of acting out in such a selfish and destructive way.

You can feel sorry for someone - very sorry - and still feel that they should be fully accountable. But now that all appears to be moot anyway.

R33 No one deserves to suffer. Houses and objects can be replaced but people only have one life. "She could've done this or that." Well, she didn't. It isn't fair for people to talk about her like she's a drunk driving murderess when she is not.

[Quote]I know a little about what severe burns are like. She deserves what she got.

Seek help.

Let her die tomorrow. I don’t want her stealing Olivia’s spotlight.

The linked article says there were 59 firefighters on the scene and it was 65 minutes before they could remove her from her burning car.

No way is she going to survive.

Wait, Anne got her car all the way into the house when she crashed?

And we thought Aunt Diane was hardcore.

The level of arrogance, even if drunk, to ruin so many lives and risk so many lives with the destruction she caused makes me feel less sympathy. I don't like anyone going through such pain but she had no care for the pain she was bound to cause others, and it is a miracle she didn't kill anyone else. I hope her death is painless as possible. Wishing life on her at this point seems cruel.

If she wakes up she's gonna be PISSED.

I'm reassessing car crash as my preferred way to go.

It sounds like there were numerous construction detours inside the home. So maybe Anne was doing her best here.

We know

R22 a million is nothing in LA, especially West LA. House is likely tiny and on a tiny lot and likely was a fixer upper before she totaled it. Also, woman living in it was a RENTER so unless she has good renters insurance, she's fucked. Her go fund me is killing it though.

PS Cate Blanchette should play crazy Anne He He in the movie.

[quote]R39 Wait, Anne got her car all the way into the house when she crashed?

It’s not that hard.

Reportedly she's on a ventilator

R35. The woman whose house she drove into didn’t know Heche wasn’t going to kill her or her pets at the time it happened. Even though the resident was unharmed, do you think she’s going to forget about that incident quickly? I think I would be dealing with the anxiety that incident produced for a long time to come.

If I drove a car 30 feet into a house, my expectation would be that I would likely kill someone. Therefore, even though she didn’t kill anyone, Heche was clearly comfortable with the idea that she would kill someone’s when she drove into the house or when she decided to get so blindingly drunk that she was capable of driving into a house.

[quote] Heche was clearly comfortable with the idea that she would kill someone’s when she drove into the house or when she decided to get so blindingly drunk that she was capable of driving into a house.

If she was 'blindly drunk,' then she likely was not doing mathematical calculations about the velocity needed for her Mini Cooper to crash into a home and continue rolling. She just had her foot on the pedal and was going dead ahead.

She crashed into a Jaguar and drove away shortly before this. She was out of her mind and driving like she was in a bumper car.

R48. You will notice that I said she was responsible for one of two reasons: 1) driving recklessly or intentionally into the house or 2) deciding to get so blindingly drunk that she was capable of doing such a thing without intending it.

A lot of people, unfortunately, get drunk before driving, but driving into a house requires either malicious intent or a level of drunken abandon that few people achieve.

R41, if she doesn't die from this, there's likely to be a LONG time where she'll wish she had.

R49 Again, she has psychotic mental illness. I can imagine that she is either taking antipsychotics that should never be combined with alcohol or else she is not medicated and may have been in a psychotic or manic state. Those states of mind drive people to do this sort of thing—not to sleep for days, to have delusions of grandeur, to feel invulnerable and to do things that endanger themselves and others with no self-awareness or self-control.

[quote] During a manic phase, they may believe they have special powers. This type of psychosis can lead to reckless or dangerous behavior. If bipolar psychosis occurs during a low period or a depressive episode, the individual may believe that someone is trying to harm them, or that they themselves have done something wrong.

I’ve been waiting for Lindsay Lohan to do this. I had forgotten about Celestia.

I think at this point, Lindsay is about as stable as she has been for a long time. At least she was the last time anything was written about her. She got married right?

Severe burn patients are placed on a ventilator per protocol even if they are conscious and alert. Your trachea can swell shut at any time and you can lose your airway and suffocate. EMS probably sedated and intubated her en route to the hospital. They would have placed her on a vent in the ER.

If she doesn’t die from infection her life will be hell from now on from pain and mobility issues.

People can be BLIND DRUNK , where reason and thoughtfullness doesnt even happen. She didnt drive into the house on purpose. There is such a thing as ACCIDENTS.

R21 yes! My sister was a Medical assistant and the worse thing she said was helping with debridement - the process of removing nonliving tissue from pressure ulcers, burns, and other wounds.

It was so bad, she quit. Now she's working for a pediatrician.

People who were saying she didn't look that injured in the video probably didn't realize how burns work, that the initial injury can look bad and then turn critical very quickly.

She has to be very careful of infection. That is what kills a lot of burn victims.

R55. Hmm. If you fall down the stairs, that’s an accident. If you end up 30 feet in someone’s house that is something more.

^ The initial injury "can look MERELY bad, and then turn critical" is what I meant to say.

Most likely suffering from psychosis and would not be mentally fit to stand trial (for her crimes which are misdemeanors, but it's a miracle she didn't take anyone out)

[quote]It isn't fair for people to talk about her like she's a drunk driving murderess when she is not.

She's a drunk driving ATTEMPTED murderess.

Driving drunk is criminal behavior

I saw reports like this one, the day after the incident, that said her condition had been upgraded from critical to stable per her representative. Given what we already knew about the crash, that seemed like a big bag of publicist-spun bullshit.

[quote] Anne Heche is in stable condition Sunday, two days after the car she was driving crashed into a home and became engulfed in flames, a representative for the actress said.

Drove her car at 90+ mph, through a thick privacy hedge and 30 feet into some poor woman's living room. Car immediately combusts and burns for nearly an hour before she was extricated from it. But, miracle! Her condition was upgraded overnight from critical to stable. Yeah, right.

I feel sorry for anyone that thinks He He is even slightly amusing.

R64, that doesn’t mean anything. As others have stated, you can be both critical and stable.

I thought that was bullshit too. Saying she was stable. The condition of that car was almost close to Paul Walker’s.

R66 I'm no doctor, so I'm asking a serious question. Under what circumstances can a patient be both upgraded from critical to stable condition and "...in a coma and...not regained consciousness since shortly after the accident" at apparently the same time?

Is that action movie with the already elderly Harrison Ford good?

What would you recommend? I loved her in BIRTH, btw.

Tonight’s theme is ‘immolated actress’.

Not a medical professional either but my understanding is that critical means it can go either way for hours or days. Patient improves or dies. Stable means vital signs have stabilized but doesn’t indicate seriousness of injuries like paralysis, amputation, brain damage. A person can be in a vegetative state for years and is considered stable.

They do have this thing called a UBER that drives you around drunk. You can get the app info from Jon Hamm.

I believe she was completely turned out.

Anne's life has sucked all her life. This psychological doctor is funny

[quote] She has to be very careful of infection. That is what kills a lot of burn victims.

I don't think she can be very careful seeing as she's in a coma, Dorothy!

R73 Wow - that guy basically roasted her a second time.

You guys are feeling sorry for her when she essentially did the same thing that that nurse did? Anne could easily have killed innocent people, it's only by luck she didn't.

Fuck her and that nurse.

People's problems, whatever they are, shouldn't infringe on innocent members of society.

Grim.

Chronic binge drinking is rough on the lungs. It’s not uncommon for young alcoholics to get pneumonia from the common flu, and some even die of it. They are at much higher risk for pulmonary complications, just like the elderly, so this is incredibly bad news for her.

Should have taken pills.

She was listening to Burning Up by Madonna

People here are obviously getting some sort of thrill in posting dire predictions of her fate.

Everyone differs in the details, but they all predict something horrible in vivid detail.

FFS

Her life won't be worth living if she lives. So much painful rehabilitation. So many skin grafts.

By her drug-taking, drinking, and reckless behavior, she was screaming to die. If all the traumatic things that she says happened to her really did, I hope a merciful God would allow her to leave this earth.

Is there a clip of the podcast she did just before this out there? I heard they took it down because it was being “taken out of context”.

A mullet and totally incoherent.

I can’t wish for the death of person with mental illness, but even if she pulls through, her recovery will be hell on earth. It would be kinder to let her go. I wonder at what point the family has that choice?

R83 - Here it is:

Never live in a house at the top of a T intersection.

R87 people who are buying or are the owners of, real estate in places like CA have no such luxury. One can only hope to not be Heched.

Or more properly He he "d.

^ sorry, I missed a comma and used a quotation mark where I shouldn't have. Then again I'm not driving at high speed completely blotto.

I want to touch that hat at r64.

She seemed very happy much of the time and had a very successful career. It seems that being mentally divergent sometimes helps certain people in the arts, but she was unable to "maintain." In many ways, she was born blessed with the type of beauty that opens doors, but in many ways, she was born cursed due to terrible parenting and genetics linked to addiction or mental illness.

Jesus, she was in that car for an hour while it burned? How on earth was she even alive when the medics finally got to her? She'd be roasted like a turkey for Thanksgiving!

She done already done had herseses!!!

Ellen are you having a stroke?

But she is R35. She is a drunk driving murderess.

Perhaps she is stable but braindead and has no medical directive.

She looks like Cate Blanchett in OP.

R81, it’s a bit of a thrill to see someone enjoy the consequences of their persistent bad choices.

Just DIE already!

"I'm a lesbian! Wait, I'm not!"

[quote] She knew she was getting drunk in her podcast and drove. That isn't psychosis. It is criminal.

How many people make wise, thought-out decisions when shit-faced?

FOR THE LAST TIME, THE PODCAST WAS RECORDED DAYS BEFORE THE ACCIDENT. FOR THE LAST TIME, THE PODCAST WAS RECORDED DAYS BEFORE THE ACCIDENT. FOR THE LAST TIME, THE PODCAST WAS RECORDED DAYS BEFORE THE ACCIDENT. FOR THE LAST TIME, THE PODCAST WAS RECORDED DAYS BEFORE THE ACCIDENT. FOR THE LAST TIME, THE PODCAST WAS RECORDED DAYS BEFORE THE ACCIDENT. FOR THE LAST TIME, THE PODCAST WAS RECORDED DAYS BEFORE THE ACCIDENT. FOR THE LAST TIME, THE PODCAST WAS RECORDED DAYS BEFORE THE ACCIDENT. FOR THE LAST TIME, THE PODCAST WAS RECORDED DAYS BEFORE THE ACCIDENT. FOR THE LAST TIME, THE PODCAST WAS RECORDED DAYS BEFORE THE ACCIDENT. FOR THE LAST TIME, THE PODCAST WAS RECORDED DAYS BEFORE THE ACCIDENT.

Anne has her problems, but putting my sympathies toward the innocent homeowner, her pets.... for the damage and trauma they are enduring. Anne willingly made the decision to speed at 90 mph in a residential area, putting everyone at risk. Now the homeowner has no home, thanks to this crazy person. Luckily, she still has her life.

The coma is to be expected and is more for patient care than anything. If she has issues with her respiratory system especially her Trachea and lungs then its better she is not awake for that and for drs to deal with her injuries. In regards to critical but stable, it is actually two medical terms not one. Her injuries are critical as she could die from them, eg burns to the largest organ of the body and risk of infection, to her respiratory system. Stable means that she has plateaued for the time being, meaning she isnt getting worse or any better, she is staying a constant same.

The home is almost certainly insured for full replacement value. Meaning the owner of a dated older home will get a brand new home, and not a flimsy piece of crap new home, but a solidly constructed one. The renter probably has renter’s insurance and will get reimbursed for all new furniture and clothing at full retail PLUS $75k and counting. Not no mention publicity for whatever pretend organizer “business” she has, if she wants exploit the incident. I WISH Anne Heche would drive into my house. And, yes, I know it was highly traumatic for the renter. Worth it.

105, what has the renter lady done that you feel the need to put quotes around and refer her to her work as :

whatever pretend organizer “business”

Is she a scammer elsewhere? Would 75k change your life? Do you find that insurance payouts occur in a few days? Even if she could replace everything instantly, she will still lose work days because she has to take time to set it all back up.

If there's evidence of the renter being a scammer, please share it. Celebrity privileges are real, but im not willing to extend them to malign their victims without evidence

Her and her “best friend” has a podcast and the podcast was far more important to the bff than trying to help Anne while she was drunk/high on air.

There were probably "things" of sentimental value that were lost, never to be replaced. Regardless....a car slammed through this woman's home, causing a terrible fire. You're in the comfort of your home, then all of a sudden, you're inches away from death and you lose your house. Trivializing this in favor of this "poor soul" maniac says a lot. If there's a celebrity involved....people side with them, not the true victims.

[quote]If all the traumatic things that she says happened to her really did, I hope a merciful God would allow her to leave this earth

I almost wanna ask you, stupid frau R82 were you came up with that steaming pile but I realized I don’t care.

One article said she had some type of pulmonary injury. Can’t recall how it was worded. Would that be something from the impact of the crash?

R33, do you remember the name of the book? That sounds interesting

[quote] PS I’ve suffered from moderate to severe depression all my life and have experienced my share of trauma, but would never dream of acting out in such a selfish and destructive way.

This drives me batty. I am not justifying what she did, but there is a difference between being anxious or depressed, even suicidal, and having a mental illness with psychosis. I don't understand why people insist on relating these illnesses, except that they are commonly lumped together casually as 'mental illness.'

Depression can be disabling. It can also lead to suicide. That is true. Most depressed people, though, have normal sensory perceptions and still can make rational decisions. That does not mean that they make *reasonable* decisions, but their thinking is well ordered. They can, for example, determine life is not worth living and go through a series of logical steps toward ending their lives. They also may act impulsively, but it's not the same as a person with psychosis.

People who have illnesses with psychotic episodes are not depressed. Their worlds are disordered. Depressed people still see and hear normally. Psychotic people do not. Their imaginations become as real to them as everyday reality is. If a person with severe anxiety progresses to the point of paranoia, that paranoia may lead to heightened anxiety and perceptions, and they may believe people are following them, but in most cases they will still understand they are being unreasonable and they will not actually see and hear people who are not there.

People with psychosis see and hear people who are not there.

People with psychosis from bipolar mania often believe they have superpowers. They are not capable of logical, rational, reasonable thought processes. They may believe they can fly. They may believe they are gods. They may believe they can destroy and create worlds. They may think they can make a car fly or that they can walk or drive through walls because they have power over the world.

It is NOT like depression and anxiety. It's tragic when people are depressed and want to kill themselves. But they are depressed in bed or on a sofa. They are not, in their minds, flying through clouds on magical ponies equipped with laser beams that can create planets. They don't believe they are extraterrestrial beings called Astra or Celestia who fly through the stratosphere...later to find themselves scratched up and bruised in a bush in a neighbor's yard, naked, with no idea of how they got there.

I'm not defending Heche harming anyone, but the media needs to start differentiating between what it means to be psychotic and what it means to be depressed or have anxiety. People who have psychotic episodes, often accompanied by intoxicants, are not living in the same world we are in their minds. They live in a world where they have super powers and are invulnerable, and oftentimes they even believe they are saving people's lives while they are doing wildly damaging things.

Probably from the heat of the fire, R110. Burnt lungs.

Smoke inhalation and heat can cause lung damage. It took so long for them to get her out that she is bound to have severe burns and pulmonary injury. She is, in a word, fucked. If she survives the acute phase, she is going to have horrible scarring and pain. She may end up trached if her pulmonary damage us severe enough. Again, it took so long for EMS to get her out, it would be surprising if she DIDN'T sustain debilitating injury to her lungs.

Breathing fumes could be the injury, right?

This is a supervillain origin story. She was young, delicate, pretty, talented. She lost her mind. She was horribly disfigured in a car accident/crime. The world turned against her. She was thought to have died from her injuries...but then...!

Good thing there are no real superheroes, and so no need for real villains.

R112, I think you make an important point and I’m thinking a lot about what you’ve said.

But as you indicated, Anne Heche has suffered from psychotic episodes. That means she is not psychotic 24/7, right? Don’t you think, during her more sane and lucid moments, she is well aware of what she is capable of when she is intoxicated, stoned, and/or not not adhering to the drug regimen prescribed by her shrink? I doubt this is the first time she’s caused damage/heartache/suffering to herself and others. It’s just the most extreme such event.

My point is, since she has KNOWN for a long time that she has issues with her sanity, is it not her responsibility to make sure she absolutely avoids situations where she can lose control and do damage?

I suppose I just don’t buy in my gut that some who has managed a successful Hollywood career, someone with money, resources, and colleagues of means who care about her can’t have done more to prevent this.

Was she having a psychotic episode when she began drinking or was she still lucid at that point?

I wish her no pain, no ill will. But she and her doctors and family or whoever is close to her and knows what she’s capable of bear responsibility.

Would someone who is knowledgeable please help me understand why it took rescue an hour to remove/ free her from the burning vehicle? Aren't they trained to recuse people from these types of emergency situations very quickly, even using the Jaws of Life to cut the hood off of the car? We have all seem news footage of devastating, fiery multi vehicle accidents and I can't recall it ever taking over an hour to free a trapped person from a burning vehicle.

☝️ Rescue

Well, there was a fire between her and EMS....

She seemed like a good lady. A bit crazy but not any crazier than other celebrities like say Britney Spears, Rose McGowan, or Sinead O'Connor. She struck me as a total sweetheart and it's sad that her choices are either death or years of suffering.

R120- Well yes I am aware of that, but I still do not understand why it took an hour. What type of gasoline was she using in that car, propane?

Maybe the time was lost extracting the car from the house she destroyed by her actions she chose to take much earlier in the day resulting in her actions later for which the media is granting her a pass....maybe ems have protocols that dont get broken because you're famous....i don't know...just speculation

To people clamoring for her to be punished, she already is going to be either with death or with life. If she survives this, she is going to suffer greatly whether she's in prison or not and live with the consequences of her actions every goddamned day.

Yeah.

Sadly, she’s better of meeting her maker, so to speak, than surviving this.

So, so sad.

I feel bad for her sons - especially the 13 year old. What a shitty age to have something like this happen.

I think any outrage at her is really just a tiny leak of generalized resentment at the rich and privileged taking a shit on regular ppl with no consequences....not truly focused on her....i dont think most ppl care that much about this specific actress

I admit that I do not know , that is why I asked. The thought of being trapped in a burning car for an hour is nightmarish. Yes, she did this to herself, but I was asking because i wanted to know if it is normally takes that long to put out a vehicle fire. Idk.

Whenever the police report is public, we can probably create a timeline....we don't truly know how they measured that hour, it could just as easily be from impact to being transfered into the ambulance which means a good chunk of time was whatever on site stabilization they did that had her under the sheet....

But they had to put out a house fire as well.

The car was wedged into the house, and both the house and car were on fire, r128. There wasn't any room to get to the side of the car and pry open the doors.

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R78 is right, chronic alcoholism is hard on the lungs. Think of someone with alcohol on their breath. The alcohol is constantly being exhaled through the lungs while they have alcohol in their system, resulting in damage.

From the looks of that photo, they had to attach a chain to the car and pull it out before they could get to her.

R134- Thank you for answering. I still am amazed that she wasn't killed on impact, not that I wish that on her, this was just such a violent crash.

R91, “neurodivergence” is not a term I’ve heard floated about He He. She’s not autistic to any degree that I’m aware of and conflating mania and psychosis with spectrum disorders serves exactly no one.

All this time I thot Ellen was the big vodka drunk. At least Ellen can hold her liquor.

Is she he-he-hemorraghing?

R127, agreed.

Whatever the outcome, Cate Blanchett can play her in the film. That said, I hope she gets through it. I don't care for her all that much, but I don't wish death on her, either. And addiction is a nightmare.

Anne Heche was in a burning car inside a demolished and structurally damaged HOUSE. A department commander has to arrive on the scene to assess the scene and make sure it’s safe to send fire and rescue into a situation.

Special equipment and personnel may need to be transported to the scene. They have to extinguish the fire enough to send someone to do the job of extracting the victim from the car. They may have had to cut her out of the car. Her legs may have been crushed and trapped by twisted metal.

Yeah, it took an HOUR.

[Quote] Her and her “best friend” has a podcast and the podcast was far more important to the bff than trying to help Anne while she was drunk/high on air.

And you know this how?

Her friend looked VERY uncomfortable on the podcast days before the crash. Chronic drunks don't listen to anyone. Chronic drunks cannot be stopped by others, they have to want to stop. And her getting in a car wasted and doing what she did - all that's on her.

I'm particularly amazed she took aff after hitting that wall in the apartment complex and ignored all those folks demanding she get our of her car, even after they snapped a pic of her while she was looking right at the phone. Feels pretty death wish motivated to me. Luckily she took no one else out.

[quote] Whatever the outcome, Cate Blanchett can play her in the film.

Unfortunately the movie would never be more than Lifteime, which means she'll be played by Jessica Biel.

R124. It’s not necessarily clamouring for punishment. It’s just a desire to be honest and proportional in the assessment of what she has done. She would have had every reason to expect her actions would make her a multiple murderer and she was comfortable with that. That is arguably worse than what her father did.

"I feel bad for her sons - especially the 13 year old. What a shitty age to have something like this happen. "

You're very right about that. It's life-ruining for the kids whether she makes it and has to be helped for ever, or dies.

R144, you sound insane and/or stupid. "She would have had every reason to expect her actions would make her a multiple murderer and she was comfortable with that." WHAT? What are you basing that extreme claim on? That she drove around at high speeds? Isn't it far more reasonable to assume, especially given her *documented psychotic episode*, that she was psychotic when this happened?

so she was at the podcast before this?

They knew she was drunk and they let her get in a car and drive in that condition? Her "best friend" was at the podcast? that ain't no friend.

I read that the victim has already raised 45k on gofundme. probably more now.

R148 $109,618 as of right now

I was talking about the driving a car 30 feet into a house. I generally assume that has a high risk of causing death. But I am, as you note, very, very stupid compared to you so I could be totally mistake.

R147 READ THE THREAD FFS.

The podcast was recorded DAYS before as many have pointed out.

R150, as I mentioned you might also be insane, not necessarily stupid.

R147, there are some podcasts were her “bff” was drinking right alongside her. She’s an enabler…

R150. I saw that but concluded it was more likely my stupidity than insanity that led me to believe that driving into the house carries a high probablility of death or injury. I did indeed read your whole post and profiled from your wisdom and intelligence. Keep y to hem coming !

R32- Ah. Thank you for posting that photo, now I understand why it took an hour. The photos that I have looked at on my small screen Android did not show that her car was wedged into the house like that. Damn, idk how she survived that at all.

Ah but you’re still not understanding me, which does indeed take me back to thinking you’re stupid. Your claim that *Heche* “would have every reason to believe” yadda yadda is stupid given the circumstances and biography of the person in question. Your believing that is not what’s under discussion.

R132- Thank you, now I understand why it took them that long.

Has Ellen commented?

It seems like the nice thing to do.

How many celebs are there with mental illness and substance abuse who manage not to take out an entire house while driving 90+ MPH in a residential area. I can name a whole bunch. She also just missed taking out a woman in the parking lot when she fled.

....

Better days..

Isn’t her son Homer Buffoon partying with two chicks in Miami right now?

Anne has always seemed mentally unstable to me based on her erratic interviews and things like being found wandering nude, or whatever that incident was from years back. And the many videos of her leaving restaurants and acting totally drunk or high with fans and photographers clearly show she is a mess. She acts messy and looks messy. So, what is the consensus here... I'm curious. Do we believe her claims of abuse in childhood? Or is that just her being crazy, seeking attention, or what?

R163- I feel she exaggerated everything in her life, including her past. It was an easy way to gain sympathy and forgiveness, and an excuse for her selfish, mean girl behavior and drug use. That is just my opinion from the insincere and disingenuous manner in which she presented herself.

Did I miss the Anne He he part 3 thread? I can’t find it…

R165- I can't find it either. Is there one?

Her mother is strange and her siblings also had problems (one brother may have committed suicide by crashing his vehicle...hmm). So I think it's likely that her father was fucked up and abusive to some extent. I think she also has a flair for embellishment and she may not even know exactly where the truth lies.

I know, I know, the podcast was recorded several days before the accident, but it gives some insight into how far gone she was. Also, during the podcast she mentioned how an encounter with a pit bull that morning gave her a panic attack, so it’s possible the same thing happened when she crashed into the garage and the group of men confronted her. She hit the gas and tore out of the alley like a bat out of hell, so a panic episode could also have been a factor in her racing down residential streets at 90 mph.

Has Dakota Johnson commented? Offered to pay hospitalization costs?

R167- I agree that she probably had a very dysfunctional childhood and family, but how many haven't experienced the same or worse? Her brother's possible suicide by vehicle is why I suspect this was the same.

Not everyone was sexually abused as an infant which is what she has stated, and it went on for years. So yeah, not so much.

I didn’t accuse anyone of scamming, R106. I just think her job is stupid. Jumping to scammer is quite a stretch, especially since I make it pretty clear that I would like to benefit from a GFM if a celebrity were to drive into my house.

- R105

R133 Yikes. I never considered that alcohol fumes can contribute to lung damage. Chronic drinkers also have lots of throat problems, so it makes sense that this is partly from swallowing alcohol but also from breathing it back out. If some of the “severe burns” are internal, I wonder how doctors treat that, aside from letting the damage heal on its own.

^^ I’m not saying that the vodka caused the burns, rather that prior pulmonary damage contributed to the severity of her injuries.

[quote]I feel so sorry for everyone in this horrible mess that anne (Oh, dear.) made. Sorry for the horrible pain she is on (Oh, dear.) , (Oh, dear.) sorry the the (Oh, dear.) poor girl whose life was upheaved (Oh, fucking dear.) because if anne (Oh, dear. Oh, dear.) negligence, sorry for her children (Oh, dear.). What a MESS (Which one, dear? "anne" or your post?).

I kind of think her mother implied that Anne was molested as a baby, and Anne herself may not know if she was or not. Everything I've read makes it sound like her mother told her she had a rash that wouldn't go away and herpes as an infant, and who knows if that means abuse?

This is biased on my part, I'm sure. I have a half-sister whose first husband back in the 70s was closeted, and the entire family decided that because he was gay, he was a molester. That belief about gays was very common back then. My sister made a big deal about claiming she sat guard on the floor in front of her kids' bedroom to protect them from her husband. She may very well have, but later it became clear that there had been no sexual abuse, it was just "gays molest children" stereotyping and anger because he was getting drunk and stepping out with men, along with a healthy dose of crazy St. Louis Catholicism.

However, I honestly think if the eldest girl (my niece) hadn't been old enough to remember that she had not been abused, the implications could have unduly affected her and her little sister.

Every infant starts the abuse cycle by committing whole-body rape of their mothers when they're born.

So when Ms. Heche awakens in Purgatory, one of you can tell her she was right when you get there.

Wait a minute r176. The guy was closeted and they assumed he was molesting little girls?

I mean, I was raised in St. Louis, but I only vaguely remember that the denizens were that fucking stupid.

You never ran into the "he's a gay so he's a pedophile who molests kids" stereotype, r178? Really? Even in the late 1980s when I was in high school, a gay kid in my class was accused of being a pedo who messed with his little sister. No, it doesn't make sense, but do you think in 1974, someone was going to say, "Now now, Margaret, the man is a homosexual, he would only be molesting little BOYS."

[quote]do you think in 1974, someone was going to say, "Now now, Margaret, the man is a homosexual, he would only be molesting little BOYS."

Just the ones with more than two fucking functioning brain cells.

The reason I tend to doubt some of her abuse allegations is that they came out at a time when it seemed almost "trendy" in Hollywood to claim one was abused (usually sexually) as a child. I vaguely recall Roseanne Barr claiming to have been abused, but it seemed like maybe doubt was cast on that later.

[quote]but driving into a house requires either malicious intent or a level of drunken abandon that few people achieve.

She achieved it.

R181, that was when the 'recovered repressed memory' phenomenon was given credence. It's been more or less discredited now by psychologists and researchers as it's not really how memory and trauma work.

I was a fan of hers when she was on a soap opera and have empathy for her regarding her childhood but seriously, fuck her.

That poor woman who was in the one place we presume we are moderately safe from violent chaos will not feel safe in her own home for a long time.

I had a car land in my house, I was sound asleep and it hit the second story right on the other side of the wall by my head and then slid down the wall lodging itself in my kitchen (the back end of the car was hanging from the trees). I couldn't sleep well for a long time even after I rearranged my room to put my bed away from any exterior walls. I wake up every single time a plow comes around the bend in the road because it sounds like it's going to crash into my house.

I think it always kind of sticks with you because how the hell does your brain prepare for just existing in your home and boom, car? I am disgusted by her and hope if she lives they send her to jail and the woman sues her for everything she has.

[quote]R108 You're in the comfort of your home, then all of a sudden, you're inches away from death and you lose your house. Trivializing this in favor of this "poor soul" maniac says a lot.

Look, life’s to be lived. You gotta learn ta roooollllllll with the punches.

Could be just the wake up call the renter needed. Especially in isolation.

[quote]R114 it took so long for EMS to get her out, it would be surprising if she DIDN'T sustain debilitating injury to her lungs.

She needs to sue the fire department for their shoddy rescue response.

[quote]r61 Isn’t her son Homer Buffoon partying with two chicks in Miami right now?

Everyone deals with grief in their own way!

This reminds me of some selected quotes from an old Bonnie Mace story.

[quote] "She looked like a young Jean Arthur, but a Jean Arthur who had been placed on a dirty stick in the woods and roasted over a fire so that nobody would want to looks past the burnt outside to get to the soft and gooey inside."

[quote]"...a flood of girl and death juices rushed out of Pam Vanessa's tender, yet well done, downtown lips."

For those wondering why it took "so long" to get her out of the car/house...the first neighbor on the scene (who tried to speak to Anne) reported that the passenger doors were completely inaccessible, blocked by debris (the kitchen wall she'd plowed through). He had to crawl in through rear door to ask if she was okay.

I've linked the live-feed from Fox LA's helicopter reporter. I'm not sure how long after the crash he arrived, but there were already 5-6 fire engines on scene & firefighters had already punched a hole in the roof to fight the fire. At about 4:00 minutes, the LAFD heavy-rescue crane arrives to extract the car (which was a good 30 feet into the house). The car emerges at about 17:00 minutes. Anne (who the reporter thought was a male) is first seen on the stretcher at about 19:00...and then surprises the hell out of him at 19:45.

is she shirtless? did the fire burn off her tits?

The owner of the house set up the GoFundMe for Renter Lady. She's owned the property since the 90s so if she sells, she's making BANK

This fucking dingbat drives her car into a house, brings down the walls and r186 thinks the fire department did something bad or wrong. Let’s see how long it takes you to rescue a damsel in distress from a burning car covered in rubble in the middle of a burning house that’s falling down around it.

Too bad you weren’t there to show them how. It would have taken a few minutes if you’d been in charge, right?

Was she burning... down there?

It was an older home, likely in need of a total makeover anyhow. Anne did them a solid.

Cybill Shepherd’s looking super sane and easygoing at this point.

Note to self: pitch a show idea to HGTV where drunk celebrities crash into an ordinary person's home and then help them rebuild it.

Yes. It could be combined with plastic surgery nip/tucks for the reckless guest star. The houses and celebs both get repair work.

[Quote] Note to self: pitch a show idea to HGTV where drunk celebrities crash into an ordinary person's home and then help them rebuild it.

I want Bridgette Nielsen! She looks like she could carry a bunch of 2x4s.

I hope they don't send her to prison. She deserves to have a good life. And I hope she makes it through everything with just a few scars and nothing more.

She crashed her car before 11 a.m. You imagine there was time to record, edit and upload a podcast before she went on her binge?

Quite a stretch.

There was time to have a few drinky poos.

R167

Her surviving sister has pretty much called her a liar.

A tell of lying, or at least embellishment, to me is that Heche claims the abuse started when she was an infant. How would she remember that? She claimed that her mother knew, but that's the specific point, the mother knowing, where her sister has outright accused Heche of lying.

It’s sad but why are we talking about this very minor celebrity? Her main claim to fame was she used to do Ellen.

I love how someone now people are thinking the owner of this house needed some sort of "wake up call" through a vehicle crashing into at a very high rate of speed. I probably would have died of fright.

Her sister is not calling Anne a liar.

[Quote]Anne’s sister, Abigail Heche: “It is my opinion that my sister Anne truly believes, at this moment, what she has asserted about our father’s past behavior; however, at the same time, I would like to point out that Anne, in the past, has expressed doubts herself about the accuracy of such memories.

Again, people: The owner of the house DOESN’T LIVE IN IT.

Abigail has bee pictured with Anne a recently as 10 years ago, so long after the Call Me Crazy publication.

*as recently

*as recently

The owner of a Venice hair salon claims she was coherent when she purchased a red wig from him about a half-hour before the crash.

HGTV: Love it or Level it.

R210, she was coherent but a little, arguably a lot, off. She grabbed the guy's face (!!!, especially something that white people shouldn't be doing to black people, though no one should do it to anyone, really) and asked him if he'd done her hair before. Buying a fright wig is a little something, too, but I guess it's a salon and people buy wigs.

[quote]r204 I love how now people are thinking the owner of this house needed some sort of "wake up call" through a vehicle crashing into at a very high rate of speed.

Are you gay? That post at R185 is signed by HL (Helen Lawson)

Not as gay as you , clearly.

R212. Seek help.

[Quote]She was polite, cordial and engaging — and she was coherent,” insisted Glass. “It was extremely pleasant — she was a delight,” he said.

Well, work on it.

[quote]I hope they don't send her to prison.

She didn't kill anyone (unlike Caitlin Jenner) so I don't think there's any possibility of that.

She’s not going to prison, I agree. But if she survives, her life is going to be unpleasant.

Anne's reps have got to the wiggotry expert.

Maybe Anne purchased the red wig as a disguise for her stalking activities? But in her impassioned state she forgot to put it on.

Did the firefighters save the wig???

If the wig survived, she should give it to the turtle. He's going to be traumatized by all of the interview requests on how he outraced the fire.

R217 Jenner screwed up and hit the brakes too late in a multi-car slowdown, (was actually driving below the speed limit) when it happened, so regardless of the fatality, it was purely an accident. I don’t see how you can compare that to someone intentionally barreling through residential streets at 90 mph and miraculously not killing anyone.

Maybe she wore the wig... ya know... downstairs...

Who will get the exclusive Renter Lady interview, and how much will she get paid for it?

What about Owner Lad(d)y?

R224 - FIRE IN THE HOLE

The owner wasn't there. What can she have to say? "Losing my rental property sucks"

Cheap synthetic wigs might makes one's crotch burn faster, no?

Maybe there's a history there. The owner rented to Joan Crawford when she was taping Here's Lucy or something.

Did they save the receipt for the wig? Maybe Anne can get a refund. She'll need it.

Is the red wig for her alter ego Celestia?

two points -

1. i was scrolling through twitter about this, not much to report. Although Prudential Insurance had an add that came up on my feed. Well played. I'm not being snarky, this really did make me think about what sort of coverage I have. Not great, and added to the top of my to do list. Some of the people on there threads are talking about this being a windfall for the renter, but that's not reality. if I had to replace every single I own, it would be a nightmare.

2. I was then browsing through the GoFundMe site, and saw this KATHLEEN GRIFFIN $25•8 hrs I am so very sorry for your devastating loss, but thankful that you are are well and healthy. You're in my thoughts and prayers

No idea if it's the Kathleen Griffin, but thought it was interesting anyway.

R222 No I think he's going to become a media whore. Expect him to use this to increase his instagram following.

I'm happy the lady in the home got her pets out. It would have been devasting if she wasn't able to.

I want pics of the rescued turtle.

Will he testify in court?

Oddly, the turtle might be the most difficult to move on as a renter. They're easy to sneak in because they don't make any noise, but they're frequently on the no-no list for renters.

That wig isn’t worth shitting in!

[Quote] if I had to replace every single I own, it would be a nightmare.

Just stream.

Anne Heche "Another World" co-star just announced he has lung cancer

Well unless a celebrity destroys my things, I have my insurance coverage and whatever happens to be in my bank account at the moment to rely on.

[quote]R240 Anne Heche "Another World" co-star just announced he has lung cancer

He’s faking.

Everyone wants their 15 minutes - -

What about Anne Heche’s insurance? Can that pay for anything for the renter (Lynne)? The renter and the homeowner should both sue her.

The LAPD is pressing charges or no.

R164, I feel the same way.

She's been a working actress since a teen, was "discovered" and IMO had a pretty easy career trajectory despite her complaints about being blackballed after Ellen. Nobody's entitled to be the leading lady in studio films. She was always castable for TV which IMO was a better medium for her.

A red flag to me is how somebody else is always to blame for whatever decisions she makes in her life. Particularly her romantic history, her self-report is the other person was trying to contain or own her and she had to break free. This also burnishes an impression that she's very magnetic and desirable since her love interests (thinking Steve Martin and Ellen in particular) become so possessive.

Another red flag is she's worked for decades in every medium without ever pulling a Britney. Her work product and her health issues never bled over. She did a run on Broadway in the leading role and was nominated for a Tony. Somehow her erraticism was able to dissipate for that. None of the "crazy actor" behavior of missing shows or being bizarre on stage.

I think she's very spoiled in many ways and allergic to accountability. AND has problems as most of us have. But she uses hers to be grandiose, to set herself apart, and to escape accountability and consequence.

Why is this thread being used to relitigate the past abuse? Seems like a very concerted effort to rubbish this woman's entire life, when she's fucked it up badly enough for herself already.

More "women do nothing but make up shit" DataLounge misogynist trolls again?

Wasn't Elizabeth Ashley freebading while starring in Agnes of God?

*freebasing

[quote]The LAPD is pressing charges or no.

They can't do anything until they have toxicology results.

[quote]Another red flag is she's worked for decades in every medium without ever pulling a Britney. Her work product and her health issues never bled over. She did a run on Broadway in the leading role and was nominated for a Tony. Somehow her erraticism was able to dissipate for that. None of the "crazy actor" behavior of missing shows or being bizarre on stage.

Britney has zero talent. That's why she wasn't able to "work" after she melted down.

Sounds like the wig survived, so it's not a complete tragedy.

I wonder what Alec Baldwin meant with his comment. Anne was better able to deal with his meltdowns than, say, Jan Maxwell?

I'm surprised Baldwin hasn't run for prez yet.

R249, but let’s just say she was completely sober but was on a manic rampage and ran into that house as a form of mental breakdown. Wouldn’t they charge her with something anyway?

You can’t just go around ramming peoples houses on purpose, no matter how bad a day you had. If you could, certain cities wouldn’t have a house left standing.

[quote]but let’s just say she was completely sober but was on a manic rampage and ran into that house as a form of mental breakdown. Wouldn’t they charge her with something anyway?

Maybe reckless driving or something like that, which is a minimal charge.

Not sure why the house burnt like a wad of cotton. Were they hoarding gasoline in the basement?

Maybe there was a lot of paper. Paper burns quick and hot.

It was built out of cardboard. A million dollars for that dump is the real tragedy here.

The video at R189 makes the house look very BIG. There are many firefighters on the roof, and the roof goes on and on! I thought was a small house? It looks like it goes way back. Also, I'm shocked by how close these houses are built to each other!

About the wig buying story at R210 -- How could Anne be coherent when buying a wig only 30 minutes before the accident? The guy she bought the wig from says that she was "coherent"!!! Her eyes and expression look focused and normal in the photo with him as well.

What could have happened in that 30 minutes for her to go totally psycho???? How is that possible?

Mar Vista, ew. Why not just live in Santa Monica?

It was an ACCIDENT!

The fact that the People story is reporting that the land lady owner of the house is the one who started the Go Fund Me for the renter makes me think the renter did not have renter's insurance. Most people think the landlord's insurance covers their renter's possessions in the house. It does not! Most renters do not have renter's insurance, which the renter (not the landlord) must purchase separately to cover the renter's possessions.

Have you seen a car on fire? Again, the level of ignorance on these threads is astounding. I was at work one day when a car on the top of a multi-level garage caught fire. We eventually looked down on it from an upper floor. The fire truck could not fit through the garage, and they had to figure out another way to get the hose up there. So we watched it for quite a while. Cars put out an enormous amount of fire and smoke. I was watching it all go down from a corner office, and we all had to leave the room after a while. It's extremely strong.

I've seen one other car on fire off the side of a highway. They really go up in flame. As odd as it sounds, if you ever have the opportunity to watch a car on fire, check it out.

Many property managers /landlords in Vermont require renters insurance in the past few years. I am surprised it's not required in most places.

Heche's deceased sister, Susan Bergman, was a respected writer who published a book about their father. Her version of their family's story is probably closer to reality than Anne's.

Anne's tortured relationship with reality was in some ways reminiscent of her father's, but also shaped and intensified by the ways her family did (and didn't) deal with its shared trauma when she was younger.

I rent in Chicago and my last 2 residences required me to have renter's insurance, I think it's becoming more commonplace when it wasn't years ago.

[quote]R256 Not sure why the house burnt like a wad of cotton. Were they hoarding gasoline in the basement?

Meth lab??

The renter “worked from home,” my ass!

I can't lie, this sort of makes me laugh.

R265 Are you drunk when you post? You realize this isn't in Vermont? Bless your heart.

Susan got married in 1979? That does beg the question about whether she was around for abuse Anne may have suffered as a preteen.

I think she made it out barely alive because she was encased in the car. Who knows, it may have still been running with the A/C on. And then the firehoses would have been raining-down water atop the car. But if she was in a 'burning car' she would have burnt to a crisp.

R271 "beg the question" - please check the usage of this phrase

If you read the fine print, a lot of rental agreements require rental insurance, R270. It's not uncommon anymore.

Damn this celebrity event has me mesmerized. All the layers. Jayne Mansfield level fascination. Morbid.

r270, did you read the last sentence or were you too busy imbibing?

R196 that’s first genuine laugh-out-loud comment I’ve read on DL in ages.

Susan was pretty.

The person who reported, quite early in this saga, that the renter had saved her turtle was legit. The People article mentioned the turtle.

You just never know where Anne He he might pop up. You could be living in Fresno and she might show up at your door looking for a spaceship. Or she might come flying through your living room at 11am on a random Friday.

Susan was 11 or 12 years older than Anne. She certainly would've been around for years of her sister's abuse if you go by Anne's timeline. And Anne originally liked Susan's book and all three sisters bonded over it.

By the time Anne's book came out years later, Susan and Abigail were upset that the publisher didn't fact-check with them because they felt Anne was in and out of reality.

It is a tortoise, not a turtle.

Please respect the tortoise’s species.

[Quote] Bergman recalls one particular tale her father told about a $10 billion oil deal he was working on with a prominent sheik. The deal, which went on for months, took her father out of the house on overnight trips. When he was home, Bergman says, he would make the family promises of a new life, abundant with material things and a mansion on Long Island. "It was not until we had dropped my father off on a corner near Times Square, with one small Sportsac of weekend belongings, did the house seem unreal. `What will you eat?' I remember asking him. He was growing thinner and blamed it on his pace, his working through the night to finally close the deal. `I will eat oatmeal,' he said, to confirm his wholesome appetites, his self-neglect. I knew he had only the money he had borrowed from his children in his pocket. We did not have enough among us to pay for his bus home. `I'm going to find you the perfect prom dress,' he promised Abigail over his shoulder."

This is weird. Was the father hooking? He was in his forties, so it seems unlikely. Did he suspect he was gravely ill and he went off to receive some cockamamie "treatment"?

R280, and it’ll be your fault, you stupid renter. You’re probably cooking meth and your life’s possessions are worthless, too.

R279 Please read R282. Bless your heart.

R276 You poor thing. "Can we please somehow make this about me?"

738 sq ft.

And whether the renter has insurance or not, this is AMERICA. Do you think she's getting a check ANYTIME soon?

I wonder why she wanted the wig and didn't care if it were styled.

Maybe she had something in mind where she wouldn't be recognized.

R283 this is so very sad! It sounds like the dad either had a complete break with reality or was trying to punish himself for not being a good provider, or as you suggest, he may have known he was dying and was leaving for good and making up a story to spare his family. Sounds like he was weaving a fairytale for his children of the life he wanted to provide for them and could not.

R285, the People article said “turtle.”

Is Ellen playing Girlfriend In a Coma on loop?

R250 she had a four year Vegas residency and was a judge on the X-Factor after her meltdown.

She appears to have a lot of projects on the go, according to IMDB. I think her talent is immense. It would be a sad end.

[quote]What does any of that have to do with a car accident?

Because getting trashed in the morning and speeding your car all over town while crashing into things, eventually crashing full speed into a house and destroying it, seems like the actions of someone who is suffering from emotional or mental problems, and we know Heche has these problems because she's spoken about it in the past.

But you didn't really need that explained to you, you were just doing that irritating, immature thing of asking questions instead of just flatly stating what you meant, which appears to have been "I hate men and you're all sexists and you're not allowed to talk about this topic because I say so."

Thanks r266.

For anyone interested I found the book on https/:archive.org (free digitized version).

Let's try that again....here's the book.

Are there any new updates on He he’s condition?

Now, whenever I see her referred to her as "He he", all I can think of is Michael Jackson's hiccuppy "he-he!"s in The Way You Make Me Feel, et. al.

...which seems appropro, given that they both caught on fire.

Ellen speaks, or at least her publicist does

She has a good team. They're saying just enough and clearly at work behind the scenes. She had a real career and real money for help like that. It's a terrible shame she's so deeply ill.

Her eyes are cold and seething

I'm not an Ellen defender, but seriously....what else would (or could) she say? Anyone who knows anything about them knows the relationship ended very badly. If she said anything TOO nice ("please pray for Anne"), she'd get roasted like Baldwin & Arquette and we'd all think it was disingenuous, anyway.

But she can't just say "No comment" either, or she looks like a heartless bitch. "I don't want anyone to be hurt" is the appropriate t middle-of-the-road comment.

Has anyone brought up that she was buying a red wig minutes before the crash?

All jokes I've made on here aside, I do actually feel bad for her and hope she survives. The recklessness of her actions can't be excused, but I do hope she comes out of it and this ends up being the hardest (or hottest) rock bottom she could possibly hit. It could, best case scenario, be a wake-up call of extreme proportions. The fact that she's been in a non-medically-induced coma for days though is not promising news for her survival. I always thought she was a tragic figure before, but this has pushed her life's tragedy to a whole new extreme.

Rock bottom would make sense if it were merely addiction. But with mental illness..

Remember when she went nuts on David Letterman?

What is the best case scenario for someone in her condition? I read varying reports on whether the coma was medically induced or not. When do you think she will wake up, if ever?

If she had open wounds on her lower legs from the impact is it possible the inside of her leg(s) were burned when the fire flared up? Or would the wounds get cauterized? Was she smoldering for an hour? If they hadn't been able to get to her at all would she have ended up hours later like a spontaneous combustion victim, a few random parts left and everything else gone?

R304, I saw that in one of the threads. Looks like a long red one. (That’s what she said.)

The salon guy said she was a delight. What that probably means is that she was being zany and probably flattered him like mad. People really are suckers.

Of he got a payoff from her team to make the comment.

R309 I read she was trapped in the car for almost a half-hour before firefighters were able to safely pull her out, so I'd frankly be more concerned about the pulmonary damage she sustained from smoke and fume inhalation, which is what apparently caused her to go into the coma. The burns are bad and life-threatening for sure, but the state of her lungs is what has her in dire straits it sounds like.

Fuck the woman that got rode in on and lost her SHIT. Cold blooded fucking queens reserving your sympathy for HER. Maybe she lost her bread maker! Hah, Elder gays? Or her poodle was almost hurt, my goodness!

R303 true, but this was still a person she (apparently) loved. Whether she wants to make a public statement or not is up to her, but I know that I would be very upset by this if it was one of my exes, no matter how badly the relationship may have ended. She may have made her thoughts known privately so as to avoid any scrutiny from the public. That being said, Ellen is by many accounts a stone-cold cunt, so maybe she actually doesn’t care.

R314. Her response seemed perfect. It expressed her concern for everyone involved in the situation.

Yes. It was a good response.

They broke up 22 years ago! Ellen's response is solid.

I honestly don’t see how she can recover from her injuries.

I don't either, R318. All this talk about if/when LAPD will charge her (waiting on tox reports) seems a little pointless. From the sound of things, she'll be dead by the time they get they get the tox reports back. And IF she is still alive....she wouldn't be able to stand trial for a very, very long time.

What do you make of that R304?

Do you have a link R307?

Ellen's chilly response intimates that all the vitriol leveled at her might be warranted. "We are not in touch with each other (Anne is unable to make calls right now), so I would not know (maybe you could make a few calls, send some flowers?). I (it's not about you) don't want anyone (she has a name) to be hurt (but she is, Blanche)."

[quote] How could Anne be coherent when buying a wig only 30 minutes before the accident? The guy she bought the wig from says that she was "coherent"!!! Her eyes and expression look focused and normal in the photo with him as well.

A friend of mine was bipolar - and she would go on weird buying sprees and be hyper-friendly during manic episodes, so that's a possibility. And she and Heather were saying somebody gave them bottles of Smirnoff (I think that's what they say at the very beginning - not sure as they talk fast and over each other - but it's at the start of that last podcast, linked in one of these threads). So since that was Tuesday and there was still voda in the bottle, maybe she hadn't had a lot of it, at least the wreck-day. You'd think the salon guy would be able to tell if she was blotto. Didn't someone say she cupped his face in her hands (could be either the action of a manic bipolar, someone drunk, or both)

One bipolar celebrity - Patty Duke i think - would become hypersexual when manic - so that might be related to her cupping his face in her hands, and maybe even buying the 'sexy' long red wig, then heading out for some excitement somewhere.

R313....who hurt you? As a child? You seem positively unhinged, my friend....

Maybe she was on some medication, chugged some of the vodka after she bought the wig and had a bad reaction.

Another bipolar person I know, a man, would be hospitalized for being psychotic, but he'd escape from the hospital and wander the streets of the city interacting with homeless people, and just random people - and he'd run from police and others trying to get him to calm down and do what they said.

You never know what a manic person will do - especially with psychosis, which is common in the manic phase.

[quote]You'd think the salon guy would be able to tell if she was blotto. Didn't someone say she cupped his face in her hands (could be either the action of a manic bipolar, someone drunk, or both)

She did cup his face in her hands and say "Haven't we worked together?!" (in a People Mag article about their interaction) which is odd to say the least.

[quote]Glass added that, during their interaction, Heche "grabbed my face" and wondered if he had done her hair before. He said he hadn't but offered to work with her.

R322 - but wasn't Anne rude and catty about Ellen in a recent podcast ("she's having trouble getting work" - something like that - like with her money, she'd care)

I think Ellen's statement reflects the coolness - and the wanting no one to get hurt - Anne did just use her car like a weapon, crashing into others' cars and buildings, so in context, that makes sense, that she doesn't want Anne or any of the people involved in that tragic situation to get hurt.

I think the wig incident was her last hurrah as a manic pixie dream girl, flitting around the shop in chick flick whimsy, slow-dancing in front of a mirror while twisting those magenta locks between her fingers and giggling uncontrollably.

Oh and the "we're not in touch" explains that there's no friendship left - and that she's in no position to know what Anne's state of mind may have been lately (or for years), so like, "Beats me what happened with her but hope everyone will be ok." The renter lady is in a position to be in a state of shock as well.

[quote]The salon guy said she was a delight. What that probably means is that she was being zany and probably flattered him like mad. People really are suckers.

I did like how he said she didn't seem to be "speaking in cursive," which was his way of saying "she didn't sound drunk."

Apparently she originally wanted a blue wig, but it was sold, so she said she was coming back for a red one. That doesn't sound like she wanted a disguise, as others have suggested.

I've never hard that colorful phrase (she was speaking in cursive). Makes me think of someone who's speaking extravagantly or flamboyantly.

It would be interesting if she woke up from her coma and thought it was still 1998 and she was married to Ellen

* oops I misread (I'm sleepy). So she DIDN'T speak in cursive.

r322 = idiot

Waiting for the "Anne Heche is dead to me" post

[quote] did like how he said she didn't seem to be "speaking in cursive," which was his way of saying "she didn't sound drunk."

"Speaking in cursive" is the greatest description I've ever heard of someone slurring their words! I will be using it from here on out!

R271

She was 22 in '79, and since Anne claimed the abuse started in infancy, Susan was undoubtedly living in the house for a few years when it was allegedly happening. As the eldest sister, you'd think she would have noticed that her baby sister had herpes.

R271

Susan was 22 when she got married, and Anne claimed the abuse started in infancy (Anne was born in '69). If Susan moved out at 18, that would have been in '75, and you'd think, as the eldest child, she would have noticed that her baby sister had herpes.

Sorry for the double post.

Too little, too late.

BLOCKED!!

I've poked around on the Internet and can't get a definitive answer. So, what's the consensus on whether Anne's homosexual father raped her as an infant? Do people believe it actually happened or that it's a repressed memory/bipolar craziness thing on Anne's part?

Its a real thing. The CHRISTOFASCISTS are coming for us.

[Quote] since Anne claimed the abuse started in infancy,

That may be a false "memory." Abuse later is much more likely to be remember accurately, and Susan likely wouldn't know about the latter.

The turtle’s name is Marley. What are the fucking odds?

Cancel the "cursive" hairburner. Especially since Anne had all her hair burned off.

It's bad enough that kids can't write cursive any more. Now ignorant attention-seekers are distorting its meaning.

Oh, dear.

Singing in cursive is also a common insult.

Anne has severe mental health issues, by her own admission. She also taken various drugs that can (and have, in her case) induce psychosis. Her sisters evidently disputed the sex abuse stories. Finally, the dad died of AIDS in 1983 and according to Anne, was raping both her and Nathaniel for more than ten years until at least 1981, yet neither of them contracted AIDS, nor did their mother.

All of the above makes me think the sex abuse didn't actually happen. That said, he was clearly (from what Susan wrote) a very bad and emotionally abusive parent. And Anne was no doubt traumatized by her childhood, as were her siblings.

None of it removes her personal responsibility, but it does help me to understand why despite so much potential, she has made such an absolute train wreck of her life.

Huh. Rosie O'Donnell injected herself into a celebrity news story before Kathy Griffin.

Train wreck? In 2002? Laffon and Anne were still together. Did they have a bizarre wedding or something?

R245 you got it right. Crazy white woman gets let off again.

And I don’t mean Caitlin Jenner btw

[QUOTE] The turtle’s name is Marley. What are the fucking odds?

No fucking way! That is beyond coincidental.

I think the scene in Another World where Marley (Anne Heche) confronts Jake (Tom Eplin) in the hospital about raping her is some of the most powerful acting I’ve ever seen, in a soap opera or otherwise. Anne was/is a huge talent.

Anne Heche is alive to me!

[quote]"I don't want anyone to be hurt" - Ellen

For once.

Surviving a head-on crash at that speed in a Mini? I guess she must have been wearing her seat belt.

R260 She is under MK-ULTRA mind control by the Illuminati owned Hollywood.

R357- I thought she was a Q-loon? Huh.

She didn’t play Vicky in AW? Who was Vicky??

She played both Vicki and Marley on Another World.

I hope they treated this cunt with the same regard she gave the little John Q Jr in the film. She could have killed lots more. Crazy drunk.

r361 As she's been placed into a coma, she's likely likely been treated well.

and besides, too much of the world is watching now... anything happens to her, you'd see firings from the top to the bottom.

... . the headlines are likely shit, so she's been placed into the coma for recovery. Which is predictable because of her alleged drug and alcohol problems as well as the mental illness. . . than her injuries in and of themselves. No one is really giving to give a shit until she hits the two week mark. They dont like keeping them under much longer than two weeks.. but it has happened, still two weeks is the standard limit.

She's not coming back.

R363 = Ellen

Ellen might as well have said "I don't give a damn. Fuck that bitch." with that half-assed statement.

Can someone provide a link to Ellen’s statement? I don’t see it on her Twitter.

Any updates?

Actually, it was a video - Ellen was walking down a sort of alleyway going to lunch in Santa Barbara and a reporter ambushed her and asked her about Heche. As she was walking along she made the statement.

In all honesty, what is one expected to say about an ex who hurt and humiliated you? Hope she doesn't die would be about the only positive remark I could choke out, lol.

[QUOTE] In all honesty, what is one expected to say about an ex who hurt and humiliated you?

I’m an author and I created a character in my new book based on my ex. Then, I had the character die of AIDS.

I did not know that speaking or singing in cursive was an insult since this is the first time I have heard it but it should not be an insult since it sounds fabulous.

R370- Lololol! Does your ex know this?

He does, R372! We’re actually on pretty good terms now and he congratulated me on the book recently and said that it was brilliant.

I honestly thought that he would never speak to me again.

What do you guys think Ellen should have said? Their relationship was over 20 years ago. Saying "we're not in touch, I don't want anyone to be hurt," is completely appropriate in this situation. I think Ellen was a bully on set, but I don't think she's wrong here.

[quote]Ellen's chilly response intimates that all the vitriol leveled at her might be warranted. "We are not in touch with each other (Anne is unable to make calls right now), so I would not know (maybe you could make a few calls, send some flowers?). I (it's not about you) don't want anyone (she has a name) to be hurt (but she is, Blanche)."

Ellen has a shit ton of issues. Look at Portia and the shit she's had to endure. Being with Ellen was probably no picnic for Anne either and it is interesting that she had her first public meltdown after Ellen dumped her.

I believe her too when she says Ellen had her blacklisted. It definitely seems like something she'd be fucking cruel enough to do once her talk show became big again.

Ask Liza Minnelli about what a cruel bitch Ellen can be.

Ellen is evil.

Anne was trying to get away from Ellen at the time of the crash.

If she has smoke inhalation injuries, they’ll be keeping her intubated and on the ventilator until the airway and lung swelling goes down, which could be more than a week. They’ll be keeping her sedated during that time to avoid excessive coughing and to reduce oxygen requirements.

I still suspect that this was a suicide attempt, especially considering that her brother died the exact same way.

I don't think so. She was out of it.

R380- Any info on why she was driving around on that street?

Interestingly, actress Jensen Buchanan also played the role of Vicky Hudson on Another World. And she was also involved in a car crash while driving under the influence. She spent time in jail after being convicted.

Actress Cynthia Watros also played Vicky Hudson, and she has also been busted for DUI in the past.

Perhaps the role of Vicky Hudson has a curse associated with it??

If it was a suicide attempt, this is a good example of how you might end up even more worse off if you live.

What’s wrong with what Ellen said? They caught her off guard going into a restaurant. That’s about all she could say about someone who she broke up and hasn’t seen in 22 years.

Nothing is wrong. People just want to hate on Ellen. I don't object to the hating, but her Anne comment was well judged.

Can someone refresh my memory on what Anne Hehe did to humiliate Ellen?

What if the tox screen comes up clean (not in cursive?)

It’s better.

R386, if I remember correctly Anne left Ellen for a man and/or cheated on Ellen with a man.

Anne's husband was the camerman on a documentary Ann was making about Ellen's comedy tour.

Because she was never gay. She used Ellen to futher her career.

I looked at the GoFundMe for the people who lost their house after our Annie ran into it.....

And had to share that Our Lady of Perpetual Exhaustion, Roxane Gay, made a donation!

I don't believe Anne has faked same sex attraction. She has lez energy.

The person living in the house was only a renter.

"Only a renter"

She still lost everything she owned, jackass R394!

Apparently. Did she even have renter's insurance?

She didn't lose her doggos and tortoise-o's.

Well, one does not own pets....they own you!

Owned by a tortoise? The ignominy!

[quote]R391 she was never gay. She used Ellen to futher her career.

That seems like an extreme measure. The manipulative character in BOWFINGER is supposedly based on her, however. She had a relationship with Steve Martin before he wrote it.

Heather Graham is as ugly as she is talented.

Heather Graham is actually the most beautiful person I’ve ever met in person. The quality of her individual features is truly remarkable close up. Skin like ivory silk, hair like a Clairol ad, full rosy lips, big blue eyes with lush lashes… it’s a bit sci-fi!

And she wasn’t even wearing noticeable makeup.

r400 she hooked up with Ellen on her downswing. . and don't think for a second Ellen wasn't pleased to have a str8 trophy wife like one time gal pal Etheridge, they used to attend closeted lez parties together, including with an underaged Sara Gilbert.

People forget what a nutjob Ellen was back then too... even more so after her show was cancelled. She was only able to maneuver back into place because her allies were bigger douches than she was.

Are you suggestion Sara Gilbert was molested?

R403- You are right that I had no clue about Ellen back then. I must confess that I bought her entire nice guy act. 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️

Anne said she was bi all along. Ellen thought she could make her lez.

I thought Gilbert was around the older lesbians because she was dating Gina Schock.

I am not an Ellen fan but I find nothing objectionable about what she said when cornered by paparazzis. It wasn’t a prepared statement and their relationship was more than two decades ago.

Well, smell you R264! “Corner office”

Her childhood was horrific! Her closeted gay dad RAPED her. Then her mom was in denial and her dad was like the first official AIDS death on record or something crazy. She never had a chance to have normalcy and clearly has never gotten proper therapy to erase these memories. She’s been drugging and drinking herself to death every since . Now her kids will be motherless, it’s very sad!

I feel for Anne. She's clearly destructive and sick, but as with Courtney Love, monsters aren't born, they're made.

Wouldn't he be a closeted Bi dad?

R410, is that a parody post of a deranged fibro frau?

Her older son has a stepmother.

[Quote] If it was a suicide attempt, this is a good example of how you might end up even more worse off if you live.

So....make it count?

Basically.

A tortoise? What’s that?

BRAVO R417

A second source noted to ET that everyone is “absolutely devastated and heartbroken” about what happened last week, but they are also concerned that “her character is being attacked” since the facts of the crash haven’t been sorted out yet. “They are trying to focus on getting Anne better, and it’s very hard when they have these negative distractions” the insider continued. “Anne is in a coma and fighting for her life. She has no voice here.” - Yahoo

Interesting.

Most people having a stroke do not respond with three successive drag-race bumps and crashes, and most don't have a bottle of vodka rolling around in the front seat as they tear around like a drunken Batman.

Sudden psychological snap? Manic episode? Shizophrenic break? What, with no recent precursors?

No.

Hear it. NO.

Another odd coincidence.

That's a wee bit chilling R421. What is also odd is how much she and the renter whose stuff she demolished look alike.

Alternate angle of her throwing off the burn barrier

It looks like young Homer is going to be saddled with a lot of responsibility...poor kid. No matter what their relationship is like, it can be overwhelming to be the one tasked with making those difficult decisions.

Is Homer close with Abigail?

Does everyone really think that she was dating for the publicity? She was doing well at that point, starring as the romantic lead in Six Days Seven Nights, Volcano, etc.

The lezzie stuff was the kiss of the death back then. I feel like being a movie star and then dating a female TV star would be a step down.

She really predated the Demi Lovato theybie type. I had respect for her because there was something at stake. When Demi says she swings both ways, it’s for edgelord points but there’s really no risk to her future earning potential in saying so.

R426 she was a fast rising star and was very possibly on her way towards being a household name, but with Ellen she saw a chance at instantaneous, universal attention - and even if much of it was negative, she seems the type who has to go for the instant gratification and fame. Dumb move though, in my opinion. Between her talent and hooking up with Steve Martin she had a good shot at the A list. She overplayed her hand.

Instant gratification and fame? Anne was working from the late 1980s, no? I think it's revisionist to suggest Anne saw lesbianism as a career move. I think her subsequent marriage allowed that narrative to gain traction. I don't think it was true. Not at all.

I'm sorry, was Ellen A-List in the late 90s?

It could actually be argued that Ellen was using Anne. She wanted some arm candy to make her more palatable to the masses. Portia isn't exactly hard on the eyes (though I think she's got some mental issues of her own).

[quote]what a nutjob Ellen was back then

Back then?

Ellen got a huge amount of publicity around the time of coming out. Three years was a long time for Anne to fake a relationship for publicity...

Btw, are there any pics of Anne with Lindsey Buckingham?

Homer is teeny-tiny short. Was Anne drinking/drugging when she was baking him? Seriously, he’s verging on little person.

Ellen-Anne: my two cents: it was real, a short love affair.

He was taller than Anne. This pic was five years ago.

She’s 5’5”. Not a good comparator for whether his height is normal. He looks scrawny as well as short.

Who names their fucking kid “Homer”? Yuck!

It's better than Apple of Jermajesty.

*Apple or Jermajesty

R423’s video is fucking creepy.

I can imagine flailing like crazy if I was in agony. Burns and open wounds on her broken legs - I hate to even try to imagine what that must have felt like. I hope they sedated her strongly asap.

R427 the 90s were a different time. Now everyone loves the cute lipstick lesbian who announces to the world that she loves women or "Doesn't see gender" ( eye roll). But there was a huge stigma in the 90s. Anne was quite attractive. If all she wanted was to climb the career ladder she would have had better luck fucking some older jack Nicholson type or a studio executive. I think Ellen and Anne are both messed up people who genuinely loved each other....for a brief time of course. I don't think anyone was using anyone.

I think the flailing was panic. Like you see in people who go running down the street when they are engulfed in flames.

I think you're right, r443. It looked like the sheet was over her head/face.

[quote]I think it's revisionist to suggest Anne saw lesbianism as a career move. I think her subsequent marriage allowed that narrative to gain traction.

r428, No, everyone was thinking it at the time. SNL even made fun of their relationship.

Why did they put a sheet over her face? They thought she was dead? Protect her from the cameras?

I wonder how many of the EMTs shat themselves when she went from being totally still to nearly making a break for it? I would have been at least one of them.

That looks like a zombie rising from the dead, R423. So creepy.

Wow the skit at R445 is vicious.

She was promoting the Tommy Lee movie on Leno and telling people very brashly how to spell her name. She may have loved Ellen, I also think she has a cold and calculated side and saw Ellen as a leg up.

If These [Garage] Walls Could Talk

What was the deal with her and Ami Goodheart? Are/were they really together?

Do we think Anne He He was a cunnilingus bottom or did she schlorp on Ellen's vag?

R453, she’s a pillow princess.

I think Anne ate the puss greedily.

Heche has dykey hands in much of her work; I think she's genuinely bi and concur with R455.

Yes… the telltale dykey hands expose them every time.

cane face as well

R420, Did she purposely cause this accident? Please say it isn't so.

Neighbor talks about what actually happened.

[quote] Why did they put a sheet over her face?

Because there was a helicopter filming from above. For privacy

OK, I will bite, why are some people referring to her as Anne He He? I feel stupid for asking but I always feel stupid so....

Inhalation injuries such as she must have experienced, plus the serious burns mentioned, make prognosis difficult. She was in the fire scene for over 60 minutes, even if active flames were not present the entire time. The likely chemical components of the smoke also can be devastating with inhalation apart from the smoke damage alone.

Avoiding sepsis will be very difficult, if she manages to get that far given respiratory damage and other trauma or injuries they have not described.

I guess the absurdity of the what and how don't make for humor at this point.

If she makes it, life will be much different for her.

R464 Such wisdom. Never would have had that thought in a million years.

[quote]r462 OK, why are some people referring to her as Anne He He?

Their fingers atremble with excitement, an early poster mistakenly wrote “Anne He He” instead of “Anne Heche” moments after the crash.

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r466 Sweet fucking Jesus. Really? We are doomed. I love your image by the way. Thanks!

Sad last days

Will she die in time to be included in the In Memoriam segment at this year's Emmy Awards?

How did she go from jumping off the stretcher to being in a coma? Lol Hollywood lol

R469, Save the date, September 12th.

R19- Huh? I listen to lots of podcasts and produce my own podcast. They are all released the day they are recorded. Editing is not that difficult. Gotta get it out before it’s dated.

In the comments section for the article R424 posted someone wrote: [italic]Now is not the time for judgment[/italic].

Like hell it isn't! Anne Heche destroyed everything that poor woman owned. It's a miracle that Heche didn't kill her or anyone else while driving like a maniac all over Mar Vista and Venice.

I agree with R440 about R423's video being creepy. That's a much clearer angle of her horrific injuries. I pity Anne Heche and her loved ones right now.

Yes, I also feel bad for the renter lady who lost most of her worldly possessions in the fiery crash. The two things aren't mutually exclusive.

She looks good at R452

I saw a few articles that said that she was offered a role on As the World Turns before she took the roles on Another World. Does anyone know which ATWT character it was? The timing (1987) suggests maybe... Emily Stewart?

OMFG re R423.

That looks really bad.

Considering how just a small oven burn hurts like hell, I can’t imagine the agony until they were able to sedate her.

R476 My understanding is that she auditioned in 1985. She was 15 and still in high school, so a little young to play Emily but the right age for Lily or Meg.

R472 that's not true at all. I l've worked with podcasts and they release anywhere from that day to a month later.

It's been confirmed the podcast was filmed 3 days before the upload/crash.

The Video can't be watched anymore.

R470, my uninformed theory is: adrenaline. Sometimes people with gunshot wounds don’t even realize they’ve been shot right away. They think someone shoved them and that’s why they fell, etc. The pain isn’t always instantaneous.

Although I would imagine that after an hour, it would have worn off and she’d be in immense pain and settled down.

Weird.

Burn injuries and injuries to the lungs from inhaling gasses and hot air often don't cause immediate life-threatening problems. Acute inhalation injury can often have delayed effects of up to 48 hours, depending on what was inhaled.

[quote]I think the flailing was panic

After seeing the alternate angle, I think she may have been coughing.

Damn. I wonder if Steve Martin wrote that SNL skit? It was brutal and he was pissed when she left him for a woman after 3 years together

R379 [quote]I still suspect that this was a suicide attempt,

Yes, because when trying to commit vehicular suicide it’s always important to wear your seatbelt. Safety first!

She'll probably get a tracheostomy soon...

…and a funeral.

What is Steve Martin's "type"? He went from Bernadette Peters to Anne Heche to Victoria Tennant.

I thought Ellen handled the question well. I especially liked her inflections on "Sure was." when the interviewer said, "It was quite a dangerous accident."

Is there video of the Ellen response? I feel like everyone has seen it but I can’t find it anywhere.

No one has questioned what Anne Heche was doing in Mar Vista? It's a very working class neighborhood that no one would have a reason to drive through.

[Quote] He went from Bernadette Peters to Anne Heche

Bisexuals?

Mar Vista is adjacent to fancy neighborhoods and is by no means “very working class.” Now if she were in Ladera Heights, that would be worth commenting on.

Bernadette Peters is an inveterate misogynist and that extends to her sexuality. She’d never go near another woman sexually. They’re all competition to her.

She's in "extremely critical" condition.

she had coke in her system! if reports are to be believed.

Los Angeles Police Department sources told TMZ Thursday that the actress’ blood test results came up positive for both substances.

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R499 I wonder how did the Daily Mail confirm she was high on cocaine? Maybe the guy in the lab coat who was interviewed by ET (see R496) provided this tidbit based on his analysis of helicopter footage from the accident scene. I bet there was coke in the smoke!

Really a sad state of affairs. I feel bad for all involved, especially her children. the woman that had her rental destroyed...sure she will have some trauma but she can easily get over it....especially with all that GoFund me help. And she lives in LA so there's already a good chance she is a narcissist and this "trauma" will give her publicity and attention for years. Anne's kids though...if she even lives, physically she is going to have a long, dark journey ahead of her, and no child should have to go through that. And if you think we're cruel on Datalounge...imagine the shit kids at school will say to them.

Oh, Anne Heche, we love you, get up.

The Grossman Burn Center saved Richard Pryor. They’ll save Anne too. Also, she’s a fighter, as seen in the clip where she pops up from the gurney like Jason Voorhees out of Crystal Lake. Anne lives!

I am frequently astonished at how good the Daily Mail reporting is. They seem to have details on our mass shootings way before any body else - if any body else EVER gets what they do.

Coked up AND a bottle of vodka in the cup holder. And buying the crazy red wig (and wanted the blue one). Starting to make sense. (I guess - I don't know much about coke - maybe it exacerbates bipolar manic swings? Many people do coke - but not many crash into multiple buildings)

Oops - so TMZ had it too? R498 - were the two substances coke and vodka - or coke and something else?

R504 She probably did coke, drank and had prescription drugs in her as well, all on top of a schizo or manic episode. Which would explain a lot.

The other substance TMZ mentioned was fentanyl. But additional testing has to be done because it might not have come from the coke, given the treatments that were administered at the hospital. They're still waiting on additional toxicology tests (including alcohol).

She’s toast.

Close to death from smoke inhalatia!!

R492, Ho please

R492 is probably a trust fund baby. They think any lower end professional even those making only100k is working class.

"I am frequently astonished at how good the Daily Mail reporting is."

Envy is a powerful emotion.

Did the renter lady get her dogs and tortoise out or did the firefighters do it?

I hope they don't suffer ptsd! (oh and that goes for the lady too)

Can she sue Anne for her distress?

I'm having a Diet Coke right now - jeez, it's just caffeine!

Oh and the DM said she tapped on her brakes - maybe that's why she barely missed the pedestrian lady. But they said she didn't really brake.

My god. Can you sue someone who barely misses hitting you while you're walking down the sidewalk and they're coked and maybe fentanyled up?

For some reason, I really want Anne to pay a penalty for this -- she also sounded mean to me, on that last podcast. I need to stop being so judgmental - I mean, who among us....

Team Ellen!

Breaking news: Anne Heche’s driving app to blame for nightmare crash by navigating her into a residential home instead of the Taco Bell drive-thru, according to a witness (who prefer to remain anonymous).

Yeah R501 the woman who lost everything she owns, and her home, will easily get over it. Jesus Fucking Christ.

And it wasn't even a tornado or some other natural disaster. A coked out lunatic crashed through her house like the Koolaid Man while she was just minding her business.

It wouldn't surprise me if that lady is having trouble sleeping.

It wasn't her home. Only a renter.

if she's in a coma, why don't they just pull the plug?

it sounds like she inhaled a shit load of toxic fumes. Her brain must be fried.

and organ transplants are wasted on her coz she's an addict and will just fuck up the new organs.

She's better off dead. Really.

R519 home: noun 1. the place where one lives permanently

It's still her home. Or it was.

[quote]I am frequently astonished at how good the Daily Mail reporting is

Anne Heche sizzles in her risqué outfit as she makes an impromptu visit to a fellow Angelena on her way back home from shopping for merkins.

Isn't a lot of coke these days contaminated? Sorry, don't know these things, haven't thought about coke since maybe 1982.

A visit to the scene of The Crash.

Probably sheer panic, being wrapped up and strapped down to a gurney like that. I feel a bit panicky just looking at this.

Lynne Mishele watching her home and all her belongings go up in smoke (in the red top.) She looks like a nice person.

Yes I know she’s “just a renter” but it’s still her home.

Are you sure that's her? She doesn't look remotely like Anne, whereas the woman some have labelled the renter does look like Anne.

Buying a wig. Cruising around a random neighborhood. Sounds like she was spying on someone. Maybe her recent lesbian fling? Lesbian flings do tend to get dramatic.

I'm sorry for Anne and I hate to say this, but we are living in an open-air insane asylum, too many mentally ill people roaming around, endangering the public. Imagine a deranged homeless person getting behind the wheel of a car, same thing. I have no solution anyone wants to hear.

[quote]r515 the DM said she tapped on her brakes - maybe that's why she barely missed the pedestrian lady. But they said she didn't really brake.

Because Ellen cut them.

Why do the tragic crazy celebrity incidents always occur in August

R513, yes and she will. If Anne dies the estate will have a big check to cut.

R526, there is no such thing as just a renter when it come to your home. A home is your home. It's nobodys business whether you will someday own that house or not.

[quote] Mar Vista is adjacent to fancy neighborhoods

Oh, my sides! Palms? Culver City?

TMZ is usually correct. Cocaine but no alcohol.

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That's because the cocaine prolly ate up all the alcohol. She did what many drunks do who are also cokeheads. Did some lines after a night of drinking. Full speed recovery. Then prison.

This “just a renter” and “she can easily replace what she lost” cunt here is a real heartless cunt.

It is a terrible pain in the ass to replace your driver’s license and social security card and health insurance card and passport and your birth certificate when it’s ALL destroyed. You need to have one in order to replace the other. How do you prove your identity if you have none of these things?

Never mind all the other things she lost. Imagine aliens plucking you up out of your little cunt nest and you have to replace every single thing you own. Keepsakes and mementos, your yearbooks and favorite jeans and your grandfather’s watch and that painting your sister did of your mother and all the things that can’t be replaced by a trip to Pottery Barn.

I hope you never have to find out what it’s like to lose every earthly possession.

If her lungs are destroyed why don't they let her die.

She hasn't lost her doggos. She'll be fine.

I read somewhere that the lady whose home was crashed into ran a business from it? Something about losing her "life's work" - so maybe an artist? I'm just guess - but I thought the wording was odd. Most of us don't lost out "life's work" if our houses burn down -- we just lose our ordinary living stuff that can easily be replaced - furniture, appliances, clothes, etc.

But she could easily have lost her life (and her pets' lives) - still, if it really was her creations over years... that would be much worse that the usual.

[quote]Why do the tragic crazy celebrity incidents always occur in August

The heat and humidity, plus lack of holidays or any real purpose.

The lady renter was working on constructing a spaceship. Anne caught wind of it and... the rest is herstory.

When I think of the agony Anne would go through during her recovery, I just wish they'd be compassionate and let her die. Spare her the months of torture followed by permanent disfigurement and disability.

If she does live, she'll be begging them repeatedly to stop the torment and just let her die.

No one should have to endure that.

Maybe she can work on the radio.

That is Lynne in the picture.

[quote]r538 This “just a renter” and “she can easily replace what she lost” cunt here is a real heartless cunt.

She’s fine. She sends her love.

R541 I read that she was a professional organizer, the kind that cleans out people’s homes and closets. She worked out of her home—all of her files and materials and databases were destroyed.

R538 Agreed 100%. Yes, ordinary things can be replaced, but not sentimental or historical items. And it’s going to be hell for the homeowners. Insurance companies love to find reasons to shortchange you or not pay.

Well, the renter still has her breast implants.

Felony DUI. Something showed up on her tox screen.

The above tweet says she is being investigated as a felony DUI.

Coke, huh? It’s a hell of a drug.

It's because the "lowly renter" did suffer injuries. That ups the charges. The coke doesn't hurt either.

The GoFundMe is stalling out a bit. I'm reposting the link. LA is fucking expensive. She's going to need more than this while waiting on the insurance companies who are famously slow as fuck.

Maybe she can move out of state. She works from home, after all.

Let her have Anne's place...I don't think she's going home

Does Homer live with Anne?

R556, you cooze, she’s a house organizer, which involves her visiting clients and helping them throw shit out. Her client base is in LA.

Coke and possibly fentanyl for Anne. And the Mercedes driver, she apparently was NOT on alcohol or drugs. She floored it through that intersection stone cold sober.

She might as well have had a bomb strapped to her chest.

R560 She could have been given fentanyl by the EMTs (or in the ER) prior to having blood drawn.

Fuckin’ renter may as well’uv just hit the lottery.

[bold]#TeamAnne

A lottery win with PTSD attached. Pass...

So you really wish she had crashed into your house while you were home, R563?

This is sad

It’s probably a blessing that she won’t make it. What a painful hell her life would have been.

Hmmm... It wouldn't surprise me if the rep is phrasing things so that a "miracle" narrative can occur.

Well, fuck. This isn't unexpected but the death watch has been pretty hard to take. We are close to needing a part 2 on this thread. I guess this would be the headline? She's not dead until she's dead so too soon for a Dead to ME thread. I'm too depressed (Mary!) to do it, anyone feel like posting?

I had a TBI from a car accident. With all of the talk about the damage to her lungs, that this could be what will likely end up making the end of life/plug pull decision for her, never crossed my mind (no pun intended).

"It has long been her choice to donate her organs and she's being kept on life support to determine if any are viable," the rep tells PEOPLE.

So this is why the wait I guess. I wonder what would be left in shape on her to harvest.

Well, that being in People and straight from her rep, with them speaking of her in the past tense already, pretty much confirms it for me. Sad. I hope some of her organs can be used for donation.

Damn. I feel so bad for her sons.

Was she an addict all along or did it escalate recently...was she still with that Ami woman?

Welp, her estate will be cleaned out

Well, someone theorized that Britney was able to work in Vegas because her meds worked but then stopped working, which led to the cancellation of the Vegas return. Anne Heche worked a lot, which suggest that she was able to manage pretty well for, what, almost twenty years? No doubt there were relapses but she and her intimate coped more than they didn't.

Someone said that Anne was talking about dating on her most recent podcast, so it would seem that she was single.

From article:

[quote] the actress has suffered a catastrophic brain injury after the car crash and that plans for an organ donation process are currently underway

A brain donation?

This makes me sad.

Fucked up.

Poor Anne. And her poor kids, though at least she got to have them.

This is out there, but could Anne have been somehow bizarrely triggered by news coverage of that other woman who went speeding and crashing in LA a few days before?

Just waiting for the announcement at this point. She's been declared brain dead now, and they have decided to remove her from life support. I hope she doesn't feel any pain. Damn.

Being in a coma, I'm sure she didn't suffer.

I'm actually commenting, because it's so sad.

The photo of her buying the wig, with the shop owner. She was smiling....and 20 minutes later, the crash. Things happen so fast.

Terrible news 😢

Could Lynne have been hired to organise Anne's life...?

Anne is...gone. 😩

But the devastation she left in her wake LIVES ON.

I think she, and most stars, are frankly too self involved to be affected by everyday news stories.

That was a bad crash in the other case - but I’d think Heche was motivated by something closer to home if this were self planned.

Her idiot podcast partner - who clearly enabled Anne’s obvious alcoholism and addiction - should be punished. Fuck her and all the other enablers who leeched off her celebrity.

R578 was in response to

[quote] This is out there, but could Anne have been somehow bizarrely triggered by news coverage of that other woman who went speeding and crashing in LA a few days before?

[Quote] Her idiot podcast partner - who clearly enabled Anne’s obvious alcoholism and addiction - should be punished. Fuck her and all the other enablers who leeched off her celebrity.

Bullshit.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Representatives for the family and friends of actress Anne Heche have said that she has officially been declared brain dead after her fiery car crash in Los Angeles and will be taken off life support.

The actress, 53, will stay on a ventilator to determine whether any of her remaining organs are viable to be donated, per Heche's wishes.

A rep for her loved ones said: 'We want to thank everyone for their kind wishes and prayers for Anne's recovery and thank the dedicated staff and wonderful nurses that cared for Anne at the Grossman Burn Center at West Hills hospital.'

'Unfortunately, due to her accident, Anne Heche suffered a severe anoxic brain injury and remains in a coma, in critical condition. She is not expected to survive.'

They added that it has 'long been her choice' to be an organ donor, so she will remain technically alive until the check is complete.

The statement continued: 'Anne had a huge heart and touched everyone she met with her generous spirit. More than her extraordinary talent, she saw spreading kindness and joy as her life's work - especially moving the needle for acceptance of who you love. She will be remembered for her courageous honesty and dearly missed for her light.'

GODDAMN IT! I meant r587 was in response to

[quote]This is out there, but could Anne have been somehow bizarrely triggered by news coverage of that other woman who went speeding and crashing in LA a few days before?

This is so sad.

So, wait. Do I have to report to the set of the Men in Trees reboot tomorrow or not?

RIP

I guess they can go after her estate for damages now.

WHEN WILL THE TEARS STOP?

Truly a tragedy for such a talented, beautiful woman. Life boils down to choices. You either get the help you need, especially for someone like Anne who had resources, or you choose to live in darkness. Anne chose the latter. I hope Anne finds the peace now that eluded her in life, but she could’ve easily killed a few people during her breakdown.

May as well use this active thread for part 3

I think that's unfair. We don't know often Anne successfully found help. People relapse and they often make even more fucked up decisions when they do so. And someone suffering from mental illness is already impaired.

*how often

A sad end to a life with many highs and lows. She had her demons but she accomplished a lot in spite of them.