Jennette McCurdy reads her dead stage mother to filth in new memoir

One hopes their children believe they are just as bad as their mothers for much less and attract the same kind of fanfare.

I take this is her I want to go back to regular acting now, so I was brainwashed by mother to become a whore... somebody hire me now? halmark? christian tv? anyone?

Cunt!

Stars with difficult mothers:

Mary Pickford Judy Garland Shirley Temple Ginger Rogers Gypsy Rose Lee Dorothy Dandridge

and

Stephen Sondheim

The mother sexually abused her, she WAS filth.

Yikes! I'm sure she had a difficult relationship with her mom, but calling it "I'm Glad My Mom Died" is gruesome. I was lucky to have a loving mother and was devastated when my mom died. I think even if it was a rotten relationship, there's no way I could title a book that way.

I don't get why she was still in a child car seat at the age of 14.

Whether a kid still needs a car seat is determined by their size, not their age.

She was too physically small not to be in one.

What did she say about Nickelodeon?

R3 Forget Brooke Shields' mother.

Right on, Jennette!

Who is this and why such a vile book title?

No one should ever say she’s happy her mother is dead unless her mother was pure evil. From what I’ve read, her mother wasn’t evil. The title says more about the actress’s character than it does about the mother.

r11 former child star that moved into porn but claim it was leaked, though at the time not so much, and now wants redemption by blaming everyone else for everything because hey, if Rose McGowan can make a living at it. . . because these days, every frau had a narcissistic mother and set them up to meet even more narcissists and they're everywhere. eVeRyWhErE.

"Reads to filth"? You must be an elder drag queen. I suppose she "pees" as well.

It’s a vile title, and the publisher should be ashamed. You could do something cheeky and dark without being so vulgar. The mom is dead and all we are getting is the perspective of an obviously troubled person.

Fraus must be posting here. Mothers can be evil.

I think the title is fantastic. The truth is the truth. Can't wait to read it.

You don’t have to be a frau to remember what fucking decency is. You can be provocative without being a ghoul.

Yes, so she waits until her mother is dead and unable to defend herself to cry mommy, dearest.

She's retired from acting and hates the life of celebrity, so she became a writer and director instead, but has never fully been out of the public eye because if she wasn't acting crazy on social media, she was dating celebs and for the past year has been talking about her big reveal of how she never wanted to act, how this was all her mother but if anybody has any parts available....

NYT article:

a lot of Marcia, Marcia, Marica (Ariana Grande)

and a couple Corey Feldman like accusations:

She looks retarded

[quote] The mother sexually abused her, she WAS filth.

Does she say that in the book? I've seen a couple of interviews with McCurdy, post-book, and I don't remember her saying anything about sexual abuse (though she may not have discussed it in interviews).

Sounded like the mother was a frustrated, wanna-be actress.

Some nellie prisspots in here defending mama, of course.

r24 It's defending mama to reveal her actual history, her actual words and how all this is a grift?

[quote] There, she says her superiors on these shows prevented her from pursuing career opportunities outside the show while Grande thrived in her extracurricular work. As McCurdy writes, “What finally undid me was when Ariana came whistle-toning in with excitement because she had spent the previous evening playing charades at Tom Hanks’s house. That was the moment I broke

....

[quote] Even now, McCurdy found that revisiting the era of her child stardom resurfaced raw feelings about a parent, and an industry, that had failed to protect her.

I'm not as big of a star as I deserve to be, so I'm retiring from acting.,

Every failed woman these days claims they have a terrible mother.

Being a bad mother is a taboo subject. Some women (and men) should just never have become parents. The problem is when people write books after the "bad" person dies. Maybe they have their reasons for waiting to write a book. However, people want to hear the other side of the story.

r28 Her brother comments on the horrifying abuse they received...

[quote] Every holiday was super overdramatic. She’d lose her mind on Christmas if something wasn’t perfect.

R27 is a failed human. Who probably blames all his problems on daddy issues

Her mother regularly did vaginal and breast exams on her. Not to mention all the child actor exploitation shit. Apparently her siblings are fine with the title of the book.

I would say the title is fine.

r31 the grandmother isn't.

Does she go to a school to become a soical worker? no

a legal rep? no

Does she start an organization for other kids in that position? no

She creates a one woman show about her experiences and writes a tell-all-tell some-kind of-all book. Is it a biography? no, it's a narrative.

[quote] I think the title is fantastic. The truth is the truth.

Unless you're Mia and Dylan Farrow.

I don't get the interdict "don't speak ill of the dead". Even my mother repeatedly said "be to me when I'm alive, trash me when I'm dead I don't care!"

Plus McCurdy'd mom was supposedly dying of cancer for 10 years, would that have been better time to nail her to the wall? Finish her off maybe, that'd would have been the smart thing.

*be nice to me when I'm alive*

r35 You can speak ill of the dead, that's bloody fine but when you come out with accusations after the fact and the perp is dead is long dead... your motives are going to be questioned.

What I think is funny if you look at all her interviews for this book,

the interviewers projecting their own assumptions into it while she really doesn't do anything but agree with the interviewer's interpretation of it.

The majority of her interviews focus more on how she felt she was cheated on residuals, outside opportunities, and had to fend for herself after transitioning outside of children's media.

She doesn't seem all that upset about her family, mormons, anything really... though many of the interviewers try to key in on that but she just lets them prattle on without really saying anything.

[quote]You don’t have to be a frau to remember what fucking decency is.

It is fucking RICH that r18 would be shrieking about the loss of decency while posting to Datalounge.

^ and drive that back to the writing with the everybody else had it better than me schtick...

and it just screams grift.

I could have been Ariana Grande and playing charades at Tom Hank's house.... if only, if only they had let me.

[quote] You can speak ill of the dead, that's bloody fine but when you come out with accusations after the fact and the perp is dead is long dead... your motives are going to be questioned.

And tell us when she was supposed to "accuse", according to your timetable? I'm assuming you know a lot about abuse victims and their ability to express their feelings in an appropriate and timely manner.

"When McCurdy was 3 years old, her mother was diagnosed with breast cancer and underwent several surgeries, chemotherapy, and a bone marrow transplant. She was diagnosed with cancer again in 2010, and died from it in 2013 when McCurdy was 21 years old."

r40 And yes, dear, actually I do. And I would say it's exploitative stories like these that hurt victim rights advocacy when people are obviously doing it for self promotion.

She contradicts herself quite frequently... and even after publication, she can't seem to keep the stories straight.

I suppose to you that just means she's so traumatized that it requires sitting down with a therapist to help her 'recall' the abuse and to remember she was once an experimental lab rat for mkultra.

Honestly, it's more humane to wait until after someone has died to write a memoir like this. The accused is dead, they are past carrying about anything. Would it actually be better seeing McCurdy and her mother fight this out in public? Only the very ghoulish would want that.

Even with celebrities that come out with abuse allegations and subject themselves to the court of public opinion, how many avoid the subject and are obsessed with finances?

My mother sexually abused me isn't the story. It's how Ariana FUCKING Grande played charades at Tom motherfucking Hank's house that cunt. It should have been MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

The passing of a narcissistic parent can create a huge hole in someone's life from which it's impossible to recover. Talking about her suffering is a way of keeping the mother and McCurdy's grievances alive. I don't think she wants to get well as much as she wants payback. It's an ugly title but it will resonate with people who've had narcissistic parents. It's also very common for these mothers to have grandiose goals--beauty contests, acting careers--for their daughters, which they pursue because capturing their mother's love is everything. I would not read this book or go to McCurdy's show but I accept her pain as valid.

r42 I'm sure every cop that gets busted for assault is thinking the same thing.

Amateurs.

-Mrs. Patsy Ramsey, formerly of Boulder, CO.

r44 But that's the thing, you lot can't shut the fuck up about narcissists being eeeverywhere and the fleas, the fleas, THE FLEAS!

She doesn't even acknowledge it in interviews.

I guess I just see a huge disconnect between the title and what she seems to be claiming. I can see a title like this being used for a book where the parent was truly abusing the child in a horrific way, or if the parent tried to kill the kid or something. But all I’m hearing is a story about a sort of nutty stage mom.

Rationally discussing things on DL is indecent, R38? If you say so.

A vacuous basic bitch was passing by me in Target the other month and was telling her male friend that some other guy was a "narcissist". When someone like that uses the term, you know it's overused.

She hints around something nefarious happening at Nickelodeon but leaves that for you to project on while she also tells you exactly what happened at Nickelodeon in the same breadth.

It's a good con. It covers her legally.

She's describing a bonafide narcissist even if the term is overused. The title was chosen for shock value. There are men who have narcissistic mothers and won't shut up about them--Listen to Marc Maron some time. What's sad is that she's still infected with her mother's need to be famous and can't find a way to heal that isn't noisy, angry and self-absorbed. That does't mean her mother didn't do a number on her.

Should mothers show their daughters how to do a breast exam to look for cancer?

Or is that molestation?

Won’t it be awkward when they run into each other again?

Really, should be concerned about the sheer number of female sexual predators out there?

because I'll take this thread right over to the latest terf thread and say we have to address this now!

[quote] And yes, dear, actually I do. And I would say it's exploitative stories like these that hurt victim rights advocacy when people are obviously doing it for self promotion.

Don't dear me. You're a liar. Victim advocates wouldn't assume a book about your abuse is "self-promotion" even if it was. Victim Advocate groups don't question how a victim decides to deal with their abuse. You are so full of shit.

Don't pretend you don't understand what I was saying, r48. You're on Datalounge, one of the absolute worst forums online for homophobia, racism, all sorts of nastiness that hasn't merely been "pointless bitchery" for a decade, and you're complaining that decency is dead.

Just because Primetime has weeded out a bunch (but not all) of the worst offenders on DL doesn't mean we're suddenly some wholesome, decent forum.

Been watching old iCarly reruns. I'd read it to see if she talks about Dan Schneider and what it was like making that show.

I watched a few eps of that show. the only thing that stuck out to me was the frequent use of bare feet in camera shots. apparently the infamous Dan Schneider was director(producer??) of this show, and he is notorious for sexual abuse of young stars. In fact, it has been broadly supported that he molested Britney's sister Jamie Lynn and the result was her teen pregnancy that took her right out of HWood.

Does she actually come out and say (in the book) that her mom performed breast and pelvic exams on her? because if that's so, that's horrendous.

But (not reading the book) if her mom was diagnosed when she was so young with cancer, she may have been trying to make sure Jennette had some sort of savings/a living before she died (which she ultimately did). She was sick practically J's entire life until she died. I'm not saying she's lying or trying to defend her mom. It sounds like J had a very chaotic and insecure upbringing and I feel bad for her.

She needs to do whatever she feels will help her with moving on and leading a healthy life going forward. Although I didn't have the greatest relationship with my mom (she's not dead yet, but she has severe dementia) - i would even go out on a limb and say i felt hate for her during times in my life - i wouldn't name my book with this title. it kind of points the finger back on you as to why you haven't maybe achieved all that you wanted to at this point in life. if she doesn't want to act anymore, move on and use your residuals.

i've certainly had to get through all the childhood physical, emotional and sexual abuse I lived through. At some point, you can't just keep going through life thinking it's everyone else's fault.

Someone here sure is offended on behalf of Dead Stage Mom.

Dina Lohan, is that you?

r56 Sure, they would.

Only unhealthy self help groups tend to do the believe all mantra. . .

You should maintain a healthy dose of skepticism and you have to walk into a scene like that. . . there could be any number of issues affecting them, they could possibly be dealing with another trauma. It's best that there's no one trying to guiding them to a specific outcome but at the same time, poking holes in the parts that don't make sense. You have to always consider the possibility it's not real. If you don't then you could be letting a delusion permeate and send them deeper into their psychosis. . . which often expands in melodramatic fashion. So, even if something truly did happen... they're not sane enough to be an advocate for themselves. But hey, some people believe d&d opened a portal to hell, if you believe that sort of thing, too, I'd love to play a game with you.

R61 You have never worked in victim advocacy in your short life and you need to stop babbling now. Back to D&D for you little buddy.

Being endorsed by Lena Dunham is a sign to stay away.

r62 It's the reality, dear. . . especially when you away from hashtag activism and into law, politics, mental health.

Guess it is easier to argue with the platform on which a point is raised than it is to challenge the argument itself, huh, R57?

The title’s gross. Makes the author look childish. Would have been unthinkable before our culture became so vulgar.

[quote]Mom's face looks like she just ate a lemon. It contorts in a way that terrifies me. I know what's coming next. “You can't quit!" she sobs. "This was our chance! This was ouuuuur chaaaaance!" She bangs on the steering wheel, accidentally hitting the horn. Mascara trickles down her cheeks. She's hysterical, like I was in the Hollywood Homicide audition. Her hysteria frightens me and demands to be taken care of.

This… never… happened.

#57 needs Muriel to put her out of her misery and ban her for life. What part of 'pointless bitchery' are you having trouble with? You're never going to turn DL into "Cafe Mom's Mensa Forum".

R65, yeah, no one was ever mean to their mom until recently *rolls eyes*

It's a provocative title that will help her sell more copies. Who cares if the mother deserves it or not? She's dead, she won't read it.

Lens will write a provocatively titled tell-all about Laurie Simmons within a year of Laurie's death. The book will feature a supportive blurb from Jennette McCurdy on its cover.

r59 She's just a slightly more stable Corey Feldman ... do you think she really got the book deal for any other reason (and maybe the reboot of icarly continuing to get renewed) than her previous accusations against Dan Schneider? This hard hitting book that doesn't hold anything back... seems to hold back quite a lot.

And no one can seem to make up their minds about when she quit acting.... she doesn't seem too clear about it, herself.

Oh wait...

[quote] But McCurdy said that her experience with her one-woman show has shown her there might be ways that performance could be constructive for her in the future.

So, if anybody? ANYBODY has a role?

"Officially" she quit acting when she started her one woman show.

I feel for her even if I don't know who she is or see anything in her interviews that would make me title a book that.

If by some magic, I had been approached to write a book about myself when I was under say, 30 I would have still been emotional enough to title it something like 'I will shit on your grave because I can't shit in your mouth and that's what you deserve you Psychopathic fucking cunt'.

But, now that I am older and have either processed or numbed the traumas enough to realize that that makes the book more about the mother's power than the child's I would probably just title it 'Cunt" and let that speak for itself as to who it's about.

Cunt should be the title of Marjorie Taylor Greene's future autobiography

nooooo, I called dibs r74!

Guess I'm not the only one here who watches Nickelodeon.

Bangs, ringlet curls and jorts? She deserves every word against her.

R51 "the same breadth" Oh, DEAR!

"CUNT" could be the title of a lot of biographies.

The musical based on the novel: “CUNT!”

r78 show me the errors of my ways daddy... show me how you'd do it.

r79 she's very clear it's not a biography, it's a memoir, a narrative of her life and that the book is based on her show.

because that was so long ago and the memories just blur as shown in her interview above.

"CUNT" could also be the title of many autobiographies

Well, if I ever do write a book, you bitches are getting either a footnote or a dedication.

I'm surprised so many people here are offended by the title. I would think DLers would love it?!

I think she's tremendous!

Does she talk about being a Mormon? She has said she left the church.

anyone notice the pattern of manipulation here?

none of the interviewers have control instead they're creating the narrative for her.

r87 She does in the interviews but makes it clear that her family weren't "real" lds. . . that they were pretty secular than fully invested in the temple. It sounds a bit like she's pissed off more about her mother exploiting loopholes.... but that's probably just to fit the narrative look at how controlling my mom was, she even convinced religious leaders to sin.

[quote]Yikes! I'm sure she had a difficult relationship with her mom, but calling it "I'm Glad My Mom Died" is gruesome

She didn't just have a 'difficult' relationship with her mother, her mother sexually abused her constantly.

THAT's GRUESOME you idiot.

R81 It's breath, dear. BREATH

r90 constantly? Are you sure you're not projecting as many of the interviewers did? It's possible I'm just a jaded cynic. But it's still suspect that these allegations only came out when she was promoting her one woman show and subsequent book deal. Also, that after her career dried up and she allegedly quit acting to start acting in a one woman show that inspired to her to think about acting again.

r91 in your usage, the syntax would be wrong. The problem, if any, was I didn't follow up with a clarifier as to scope of the subject matter. From fiction to nonfiction, the suggestion of these changes are considered stylistic. But there doesn't appear to be an open debate on the difference of usage. Could you use it in sentence and explain the difference?

R92 The expression is "in the same breath," meaning two contradictory things are spoken (or written) at the same time by someone. Breadth has an entirely different meaning than breath; it refers to width, or else to the scope, range or extent of something, especially knowledge. An example would be "the ship was short in length, but large in breadth" or "the breadth of his knowledge made him an invaluable teacher."

r93 Thank you. I'll concede and try to do better next time.

Why is it so hard to believe that a mother can screw up her child's life without physically harming them or engaging in criminal neglect? (The cancer exam thing is definitely abuse.) I had a horrible mother who died 12 or 14 years ago. Occasionally, a memory of her cruelty will bubble up and I'll find myself saying, "You're dead now. Thank God." I don't talk about it nor am I going to supply examples of her behavior because therapy worked and I don't need anyone's sympathy. I'm considerably older than Jenneitte so I've had a lot more time to get my mother's. voice out of my head.

If you can't conceive of a parent who could make their kids' lives a living hell, consider yourself lucky. But that doesn't mean these parents don't exist. As for Jennette, she doesn't evidence a whole lot of insight. I can see why you'd find her repellant. I have the same revulsion for anyone who thinks therapy and their childhood is a spellbinding conversation topic. God only knows what kind of audiences she attracts.

So, I’ve had jobs where coworkers were favored, one time a woman was given all the new business because she got a mortgage and “needed the money more than you”. People with children are given more leeway than single people, time off, etc.

You can stew in resentment or find a new job, but remember if you don’t, you choose to go to the same work situation- every. single. day.

Wrong thread.

Jennette is not an upscale name.

Hahaha! All you queens clutching-your-pearls over that great title.

What a bunch of hens you are. Ahh how I long for the day when gays, pretty much universally, appreciated dark-camp shock-humor. Lots of projecting going on, I'd guess, with the gays around her on the Elderly spectrum.

r95 It's not hard to believe that a mother can ruin a life.

But it's frau catnip and it's quite effective.

It's how Flowers In The Attic has endured the test of time. Mommy Dearest, too, sure there's gays that see the camp but there's a lot more lasses that earnestly watched it. And let's not for forget day time talkshows, lifetime movies and true crime.

This bitch has all the signs of pulling a con, what's so effective about her... she's a blank slate.

She gives you fragments and pieces, you're writing the story for her. . . she's fishing for how to respond based on what you sink your teeth into. So, you ignore all the other big flashing red flags because you relate on a deeper level... nobody can understand what you two have shared. So, you make excuses for her and get emotional when people reveal the con behind the curtain. What it does is it makes your story more tragic because she's made it clear she doesn't care about you or anyone else in your situation, if somebody else wants to handle it, great, she's only here to promote her book and show.

She was SO traumatized by her experience with her mother that she left acting and never wanted to be an actor, never enjoyed it because everything that happened to her.... to perform in a show about her mother and write a book immediately after. But since the experience of her one woman show, did she mention her one woman show, and the book avilable now, she has felt inspired to give it another shot.

Also, sweetie, if you're looking for love, there are many, many prince/sses out there looking for love, if only someone could help them reclaim their throne... going from riches to rags and civil war, you could imagine how difficult it might be but for a simple donation, there's someone special willing to rescue from the tower where you've been held captive all these years.

More about how she was Forced into acting:

She talks about an abusive man at Nickelodeon that she only refers to as "The Boss"

[Quote] I take this is her I want to go back to regular acting now, so I was brainwashed by mother to become a whore... somebody hire me now? halmark? christian tv? anyone?

Nope. She has said that she's done with acting. iCarly was rebooted and McCurdy declined to appear.

r102

[quote] I’ve come to terms with the fact that I don’t like acting. While I was able to push through the season for the promise of directing, now that that opportunity has been taken away from me, I feel that all I’ve ever been and all I ever will be is an actor. A has-been actor, because who’s gonna wanna hire me when I’ve spent almost ten years on Nickelodeon? How will I ever get a “real” acting job, anything out of this phony, bizarre sphere? I never went to college and have no real-life skills, so even if wanted to get a profession outside of the entertainment industry, I’m years away from that being a realistic option.

Tom.. Hanks....charades...

[Quote] She talks about an abusive man at Nickelodeon that she only refers to as "The Boss"

I've read that she refers to him as The Creator. Maybe there are two different people she's talking about.

Alright, let's go down this path.,

We all know "The Creator" is sleaze and maybe after he dies, she'll name him.

So, taking the rest of it into account

did he target her because at best, her future was set as a character actress. . . because every other opportunity was stolen from her.

If he did this to a talent of her caliber, did he fuck Ariana Grande and is that how she became more famous? Is there a hollywood cabal?

Oh, woe is me., I am such a dumb blonde, I am still girl, picture me as a girl, you only know me as a girl in your mind, I never grew up. I couldn't escape Hollywood. What else could I do? So, I wrote and starred in a one woman show about my life and now I have a book based on it - no, no, no it's not a biography, it's a memoir, it's my narrative, my truth. You all know the reasons why I can't say his name. They're too powerful. You saw what happened I didn't comply and now I don't have a career. It was so horrifying, traumatic but I had no where else to, they kept pulling me back to the industry I so hate, I was forced into, never wanted to be in. It was my mother's dream, it was never mind. I was just too famous to go to a community college - oh, you're that girl from that show from like fifteen years ago or drive for uber. My mother once told me you're nothing, you're nothing, you're nothing, all you're good for is uber. I just can't..

This trauma, with the creator, that likely happened more or less as stated, is the only thing I have to sell. so, he continued to work with children, the most important thing is I won't be bought. So, please buymy book. And if any casting directors have noticed the headlines, I'm relevant once again, and I'm available... only a scumbag that feels guilty about their compliance to this industry that destroys the lives of innocent children wouldn't consider me for the lead in their next big project.. I'm ready to make a triumphant comeback!

Why are you sharing your pre written narrative? McCurdy has a podcast where it's clear that she's at least of average intelligence.

[Quote] And if any casting directors have noticed the headlines, I'm relevant once again, and I'm available...

She turned down the reboot of her old TV show.

from california to new york, if any of you are worried about public scandals or celebrity while attending uni... schedule an appointment with their communication/PR/public liaison office... they can't prevent students from being shits but most unis will try to accomodate your needs for security and privacy.

of course, there are also several online options and again, if you speak to the necessary people you may be allowed to use pseudonym.

It's fascinating how many people here keep insisting that she's just angling for acting jobs, when she's stated outright she doesn't like acting and has quit acting. Trying to get back into acting by writing about how much you hate it...doesn't really make sense.

I’m not really convinced that a TV show called iCarly actual existed. I’ve always heard about Lana Del Rey, but I’ve never heard a song by her and while I’ve seen pictures of Oscar Issac, I don’t know of any of his movies.

I think we all read our dead stage mother to filth.

Two of her three brothers comment in interviews that the mom was a nightmare cunt, but Jennette got the worst of it.

Her mom had dreamed of becoming an actress and foisted her unfulfilled aspirations onto her daughter. Her dad (who she found out was not her biological father after her mother’s death) worked two jobs and was, as Jennette put it, “not a very emotionally connected person.”

Debra dictated Jennette’s likes and wants and made every decision for her well into her teens. She insisted on giving McCurdy showers until she was 16 years old, washing her hair, shaving her legs and performing routine breast and vaginal exams as a means, she said, to check for cancerous lumps. “She worked really hard to keep our relationship very private. I now see it as conditioning, but at the time I thought, ‘Oh, Mommy and me have a relationship that’s so special,’” McCurdy said. “Like when you have a best friend and you have all these secrets and that feels like a form of intimacy. That’s exactly what my mom did with me — only it wasn’t friendship. It was abuse.”

McCurdy's relationship with her mom was all-consuming. She lived in constant fear of disappointing her mother and being the victim of her wrath, but also in fear of her mom's cancer returning and the immense guilt she'd feel if she stepped out of line.

The whole family walked on eggshells around Debra, but one of McCurdy’s brothers, Dustin, who is five years her senior, said he still feels guilty he did not realize the extent of their mom’s abuse toward Jennette until recently.

“While I may have known the outline, the sketch of what had happened, there were more details presented in her [one-woman] show that surprised me,” he said in a phone interview. “But I do realize intellectually, of course, that that was kind of the whole point: It was a very deliberate, very covert, clandestine relationship.”

Dustin, who said his mother was also “extremely abusive toward my dad, mentally abusive, and very mentally abusive toward me,” initially found relief in Debra’s preoccupation with her only daughter. “For me, having [Jennette] be the breadwinner, this is going to sound really selfish, but it kind of got our mom away from us. So part of me was more than willing to be like, ‘Oh, she’s fine. Take her out of the house for a while. That sounds great.’”

“Back then, it seemed like Jennette often tried to get us in trouble and kiss up to Mom,” he said. “Now, I totally get it. She just wanted to stay safe in whatever way she could.”

Mom was a cunt AND a slut

This sounds like Jenna maroneys backstory.

I had no idea who this girl was but came across her podcast a year or so ago. After listening and learning more about her, I found her to be quite intelligent and well-spoken—a hell of a lot more than her mentally-retarded twit co-star Ariana Grande. At first glance, the title seems to be in bad taste, but I can only assume based on what I've read about her that the contents of her book justify it. I also assume that, deep down, she's not truly "glad" her mom is dead, at least not in the way most would interpret it at face value. I'm sure it was a profound loss that was both painful and a relief. Assuming even half of what she's claimed occurred is true, her mother was a very fucked up person. Given the context, it strikes me as a wry, acerbic title coming from a place of real pain.

R116, right, I'm sure she's not doing tequila shots to celebrate the death of her mother. But I'm sure she's relieved. No more controlling bitch in her life!

[quote]Should mothers show their daughters how to do a breast exam to look for cancer? Or is that molestation?

What a stupid question! Of course it's wrong to check you own child's private parts, even if the parents are doctors.

Most doctors refuse to treat their relatives, especially their own immediate family members. If a mom is that concerned about their daughter's breasts (especially if cancer runs in the family) the mother can get some breast exam pamphlets from their own doctor.

A doctor, especially one who is not a gyno, shouldn't be checking their daughter's genitals and breasts. My mom sure didn't check my brother's cock and balls and my sister's breasts and vagine! That's some kind of creeper level nonsense.

Jennette should have titled her memoir: "My Cunt Mother Debra." There's wouldn't have been a peep from DL about that title.

I totally understand with how Ariana Grande’s burgeoning career set her off. 18 year old actress starves herself, books a terrible Nickelodeon sitcom and has to act to a box because costar gets time off to focus on her side hustle and schmoozing with superstars. I’d be pissed off too. It’s not like she was on one of the popular shows of the time like Mad Men or Girls or 30 Rock and she could tell herself the misery is worth it.

I tend to side with the mother. Children can be troublesome.

So, has anyone actually read the book? Is it even readable, or just an angry rant? How’s the audiobook? How much do I need to know about Carly before I read it?

R122 it’s not out until Tuesday. This is all coming from interviews.

She did a version as a stage show first. There must be reviews of that.

[quote]'I will shit on your grave because I can't shit in your mouth and that's what you deserve you Psychopathic fucking cunt'.

We're gonna have to use 18 point type for that.

R123 In this day an age just about anyone can get Advanced Reader Copies and there’s usually a large contingent of people who’ve read or listened to things before the release date.

DL should at least appreciate the campy graphic design of the cover.

[quote] [R122] it’s not out until Tuesday. This is all coming from interviews.

What? Seems like she's been on book tour for about 6 months.

Cremains urns are considered campy now?

R138 Right, I feel like I’m a latecomer already.

I'd say you're early. What say you, r138?

One of the worst book titles ever, unless her goal is to have her book hit the remainders pile in record time. It promises an ugly story whose happy ending is that the mother is dead. Yeah, I want to read THAT.

There's a reason such books aim for inspirational titles.

R126 and how many of them are on DL? This isn't Goodreads.

This is stunning:

"Yikes! I'm sure she had a difficult relationship with her mom, but calling it "I'm Glad My Mom Died" is gruesome. I was lucky to have a loving mother and was devastated when my mom died. I think even if it was a rotten relationship, there's no way I could title a book that way."

Good for you that you were lucky but for that reason, maybe you should recuse yourself from weighing in. Leave it to those of us who had shitty parents. Calling her book I'm Glad My Mom Died is less awful than what she says her mother did to her.

Demi Lovato's mom is still alive, right? And Hayden Panetierre's parents?

Good for her. As evidenced by this thread, some people are really uncomfortable acknowledging abuse. I wonder if their panic arises from subconsciously denying the abuse they endured or the abuse they dish out (or both). News flash, people who grew up in functional homes would display empathy at Jeanette's experiences.

My mother is a nightmare with rage issues, among other things. I remember one summer when I was young, HBO had Mommie Dearest on rotation. I was fascinated to say the least. I would watch it during the day when my mother was at work (on some level I knew not to watch it in front of her). It infuriated my older sister. "Why would you even watch this?" She knew why - it was like watching our mother except the rages took place in a Brentwood mansion.

My sister, then and now, cannot acknowledge things weren't hunky dory. Dad left town? Oh, he's a good man. Mom constantly goes into fits of rages? Nothing to see here. Both parents ignoring our other sister abusing drugs from age 11? Everything's fine, really.

No, it never was fine and it is okay to say so. Good for Jeanette. Everyone who treats their kids like crap deserves a public reckoning.

No one is saying that she doesn't have a right to a day of reckoning, R135. But her book title still sucks.

R133 Publishing and libraries are filled with the Gays, so I would expect them to have access.

My main takeaway question here is: What in the fuck was 18-year-old Ariana Grande doing playing “charades” with Tom Hanks at his HOUSE? Creepy as hell. It sounds to me like Jennette dodged a bullet.

Ariana sometimes pretend to be black. Chet probably invited her.

There are a few reviews on Goodreads.

R140 I loathe Ariana. She looks like a prepubescent middle-schooler cosplaying Kim Kardashian (who also cosplays being black). No wonder so many guys want to fuck her.

To be honest, all of the shows that they have on Nick these days seem so bad. It's either a CalArts-liberal-propaganda-cartoon created by neuro-divergent lesbians who hate white men or it's a community theater production starring Disney Channel rejects. When I was a kid watching iCarly, Drake & Josh, or Spongebob, my parents and my adult brother would actually watch with me and my sister, and they would find the shows entertaining and funny. I don't think I could do the same with the new gen of content. Oh yeah and Jeanette must be humiliated because after all of the trauma she endured in her childhood, she has no career to show for it now. So sorry for her.

Having a career doesn't make the trauma worth it, r143.

How does Ariana Grande get mixed up with this dead evil mother?

R145 Jennette's mother forced her to star in the iCarly spinoff "Sam and Cat", in which she co-starred with Ariana. She apparently discusses this in the book.

Ariana stole the mother's voice.

So did the mother demean her daughter by say “Why can’t you be more like Ariana Grande! Why can’t you be more like Ariana Grade!” If so then the hate is justified.

R144 No it's not worth it, per se. But if the trauma already happened, it would be nice to look back and say, "you know, it all worked out in the end. I'm a successful country singer and I'm being asked to star in a mini-series on Hulu". Another example, let's say a person was exposed to asbestos in their workplace in the past. The damage to your health isn't worth it, but it would feel better to have something to show for it, like 100k from a lawsuit.

McCurdy doesn’t say she hated Ariana Grande or say she’s a bad person. She says she envied her because Ariana’s treatment by Nickelodeon compared to hers further reinforced how much she hated working there.

The webseries she made shortly after leaving Nick is interesting. 20 minutes total.

I’m on Chapter 5 and I’m glad her mom died too.

Just finished the book. If even half the stuff in it is true, and I see no reason to doubt it, her mom is roasting in hell.

Family Guy already exposed them.

Her eyes seem odd in the interview, like she's struggling to stay awake.

The outfit is an odd choice.

I think the book is a must read for anyone dealing with parental trauma. The Nickelodeon gossip is maybe 12% of it. She mentions the Arclight a few times. Fuck I can't want to go back there.

The craziest part, and one she doesn't go deep enough into, is finding out that her dad isn't her dad. Her parents had 4 kids, 3 of them were the result of the mom's affair with a jazz musician. How do you sit there as your wife brings home another man's baby 3 times?

Her grandma was a psycho cunt too and her grandpa was a pushover for her.

Maybe her father was sterile.

R139

lmao ariana has had a whole face transplant since that photo

R157 I thought the Arclight was a victim of the pandemic?

R160 it's coming back. Timeline TBD.

I can't believe this book didn't mention ME!

r159 these before and after pics of Ariana are even better.

R139, didn’t we just read that Tom Hanks is one of those middle-aged men who goes to “game night” hosted by Dane Cook? It’s all adult men and teenage girls.

I saw her live show in LA, and have no doubt that everything she wrote is 100% true. She was clearly still extremely disturbed by the whole situation and I felt almost uncomfortable watching at some points. Very talented and funny though, and she even sang!

R165 I want to go if she tours again. She's a good storyteller

After Jennette went on vacation with a guy (at age 20) and got caught by paparazzi.

“Thirty-seven missed calls from Mommy, sixteen voicemails, and four missed emails (we no longer share an account—I recently created my own, thanks to Joe’s encouragement). I open the top email:

Dear Net,

I am so disappointed in you. You used to be my perfect little angel, but now you are nothing more than a little SLUT, a FLOOZY, ALL USED UP. And to think—you wasted it on that hideous OGRE of a man. I saw the pictures on a website called TMZ—I saw you in Hawaii with him. I saw you rubbing his disgusting hairy stomach. I KNEW you were lying about Colton. Add that to the list of things you are—LIAR, CONNIVING, EVIL. You look pudgier, too. It’s clear you’re EATING YOUR GUILT.

Thinking of you with his ding dong inside of you makes me sick. SICK. I raised you better than this. What happened to my good little girl? Where did she go? And who is this MONSTER that has replaced her? You’re an UGLY MONSTER now. I told your brothers about you and they all said they disown you just like I do. We want nothing to do with you.

“Mom (or should I say DEB since I am no longer your mother)

P.S. Send money for a new fridge. Ours broke. ”

R163

She looked a lot like Frankie before. I can see why she would want to change her face.

R168 True, it can be cold in my shadow!

[quote] The craziest part, and one she doesn't go deep enough into, is finding out that her dad isn't her dad. Her parents had 4 kids, 3 of them were the result of the mom's affair with a jazz musician. How do you sit there as your wife brings home another man's baby 3 times?

I'd guess the dad is gay. I knew a male / female married couple. 3 kids. 2 from the wife's affair (same guy). Still married. Most people assume the husband is gay.

The same tired quality in this vid. Maybe the interview schedule is taking it out of her. I suspect her ED is ongoing.

R170 Dad got a new girlfriend fairly quickly after the cunt bucket croaked. She writes that it was the girlfriend who told him she had to tell the kids the truth.

And she writes about a month where Mom made "Dad" sleep in his car because he was looking at porn.

I can't imagine being so closeted that you'd deal with that cuntitude.

R171 she looks like she came straight from a tanning bed.

She might be tired. Been a lot of press recently.

[Quote] She writes that it was the girlfriend who told him she had to tell the kids the truth.

The gf told the kids that they're somebody else's children?

R174 the dad told his new girlfriend that he was basically a cuckold and she told him "you have to tell your kids the truth".

She writes that she met dad and the girlfriend for lunch, he thought she was going to say they were getting married and he was like "You and two of your brothers are not biologically mine. Your mom was cheating on me for years with a jazz musician"

R174 I missed up the pronouns. Don't tell Twitter.

To avoid her mother's ire, Jennette McCurdy pretended that she was going on vacation with Colton Haynes?!

R177 there's more than one Gay Colto in this town, bitch!

It's a good thing her mother died before her nudes leaked. Her mother would have eviscerated her.

When are are those Full House child actresses going to write books about their mommies?

I did a quick search and only lingerie pics "leaked." Suspicious.

I've never seen any fully nude pics of her, but several semi-nudes.

What "Colton" was she lying about?

R167 wow that's nuts. I'm guessing the mom was borderline.

She seems like a bit of an attention whore. Also, that "email from Mommy" seems suspect/fake to me.

She didn't look as I imagined.

The mom was way hotter that the snot daughter.

"Buy my book and feel sorry for me because I didn't want to be a tv star".

This is a gay site, so it stands to reason you'd go for Debbie's mannish jaw.

McTurdy looks like an ugly version of Justin Timberlakes spouse, Jennifer Beil.

R186 wrong Deb

R183 she was on a vacation with her boyfriend. She lied and told mommy she was on a vacation with a gay friend.

I wonder if she will even have a career. Rose McGowan certainly did not; Anne Heche got a series after her book but that was it.

Hollywood does not go for these actress-authors who burn bridges, which is why Lindsay Lohan still gets work.

Does this mean I’ll become a DL Fave like Joan Crawford????

Do you love me Gays???

[Quote] Anne Heche got a series after her book but that was it.

Anne He he has a shit ton of credits.

Maybe Jennette will make her own "The Comeback."

R192 you’re right Dina. No one should ever talk about psycho stage moms

I was far too old (and wouldn't have had the interest anyway as a child) to know her from her TV acting on Nickelodeon, but we're close in age and I did enjoy her podcast, which I hope she brings back. She told some interesting stories on there, but the book clearly goes into much more depth. She seems intelligent and capable of self-reflection, and she's had a unique and tragic life by the sounds of it. I am very interested in reading the book. I was surprised to see it's sold out pretty much everywhere, including on Amazon and at all of my local Barnes & Noble stores—especially given that it just dropped today. Obviously a hot seller. I managed to find a Target near me that had three copies in stock, so I just placed an order for it and plan on picking it up Thursday for some weekend reading.

I have no idea who this individual is except I remember her from an old episode of Law & Order SVU. She was probably something like 12-14 at the time.

No wait she was more like 9-10

No, she was 12. Remember, she claims her mom starved her so she could stay small and get parts playing younger kids.

A lot of celebrities or former celebrities could match sob stories with her. These memoirs are a dime a dozen. The WaPo did a puff piece on her. She sounded like a brainless, self absorbed little twat.

Ariana’s cosmetic surgery has been superb.

Now she needs to stop for another 30 years.

I suggest we read the book, in order to understand whether or not the scandalous title is warranted.

I have been waiting for dirt on Ariana Grande, she must have been a pain in the ass.

The Biggest Bombshells From Jennette McCurdy's Memoir I'm Glad My Mom Died

I know these two chicks from TikTok and they’re usually quite biting and satirical, though I’ve never actually listened to their podcast. But apparently no book has ever blown up for them on the same level as this one.

When will Dan Schneider be held accountable?

Apparently, it could also be this guy who is a huge figure on Nickelodeon and worked with Dan Schneider on "Head of the Class:" Brian Robbins. Or there could have been some weird "partnership" they had to molest some of these kids. Makes you wonder about Ariana Grande...

Take it with a grain of salt but I saw somebody post Ariana did Schneider to get ahead.

Twitter has become obsessed that everyone is raping kids, but all the credible rumors about Dan Schneider is that he ran sets like a tyrant. Still a piece of shit, but not necessarily a pedo.

There are multiple corroborated accounts of Dan Schneider taking photos of preteen and teenage girls on his set in underwear and bikinis and making rape jokes about them - you sure, R209? He's not gonna fuck you or write you a check, no point in caping for that.

R210 yeah because I really want My 600 Pound Showrunner to fuck me.

If there's links to that, I'm down to see it. But literally every time there's an accusation of someone being an asshole, Twitter jumps to "OMG THEY'RE RAPING KIDS!"

I'm down to see the receipts, but I'm not wading through Twitter to find them.

I'm not wading through it for you either, but I have seen them and have no reason to lie. And Dan Schneider is a creepy pedo rumors have been around for years. 3eq

Her mom seemed like an evil cunt

R211 "literally"

Oh, dear

R213 that's why I'm glad she's dead!

The Schneider rumors were around before MeToo and QAnon.

[quote] reads her dead stage mother to filth

The expression "reading to filth" is meaningless.

Because we're all filth?

Apparently mommy was also a super hoarder. The kids had to sleep on gym mats in the living room because the house was THAT cluttered.

It's interesting and heartbreaking that Jennette has said that if her mom hadn't died, she'd still be under her control.

SN: Yeah, it really drives home that you may not have gotten the help you needed, or the healing that you needed, had your mom not passed.

JM: 100 percent. I feel very strongly that my life would look so different now. I just turned 30. I would be a completely different 30-year-old if she were still alive. I don’t think the healing would have been possible. I think even walking in a therapist’s office would have been impossible because the second she found out that I was in therapy, I believe she would have found a way to put an end to that and to make sure that that didn’t continue because she would have been terrified of “What are you saying about me?” and “How dare you!” It would have just been more chaos and more of that drama.

SN: Now that you have that perspective of having gotten that healing and help, and you feel like you’ve come out on the other side of it, do you believe that, had your mom not passed away, she would have ever been able to recognize how sick she was? Do you think you would have maybe been able to help her? Or do you think she would have just simply dismissed any attempt to do so?

JM: I appreciate that question. I believe that I would have recognized the abuse. I would have recognized how, for lack of a better word, disturbed I think she was. And I think both myself and my three older brothers, I think all of us, would have really, really tried to help her. But I don’t think she wanted the help. I experienced this a lot growing up. Any time that my grandfather or my father tried to encourage her to get help, pleaded with her to get help, whatever their approach was to try and get her to have some form of help or to work on her issues in any way, shape, or form, she just refused to do it. She refused to acknowledge that she had any issues. She was very, very set in her ways. So, I feel like that probably would have just continued. I don’t think it’s realistic. Of course, I fantasize about it. I have all the fantasies of what it could be and us having this amazing healing moment, but then I recognize those as just fantasies, unfortunately. I think she would have just kind of stayed who she was.

If you ever watched any of these shows, Schneider had constant closeups of the girls' feet. He has a foot fetish. And of course he has an underage girl fetish wherein he could weild his power and make them do what he wanted, or make their lives living hell. Who knows how much complicity Brian Robbins had (he was higher up than Schneider). Apparently HWood was a sick pedo machine. Thus, other figures like Bryan Singer. The casting couch has been around forEVER.

“THE PILOT SHOOT GOES WELL, and while I never get upgraded from glorified extra, there is one event on the shoot that gets me closer to Mom’s goal of me becoming a principal performer. There’s a principal actress my age with a mother who takes a liking to Mom. That mother gives Mom the number of her daughter’s agent, Barbara Cameron. “Barbara Cameron, Net! Barbara Freaking Cameron!” “Yay!” “Do you know who that is?” “No.” “She’s the mother of several famous kids. Several. Kirk Cameron from Growing Pains, Candace Cameron from Full House. She’s their mom. And “she managed them. So then she started managing kids who weren’t her own. And now she’s one of the biggest youth reps out there. Really cool lady.” Mom calls Barbara immediately to set up an audition for me and my oldest brother Marcus, who she recently convinced to give acting a try despite his initial resistance.”

Sadly Jennette has no anecdotes about DL Fave CCB.

[quote] "reading to filth"

That idiom can't be parsed.

We can google to find where the idiom originated but it provides no confidence or reason why we should accept it in common parlance.

The VF excerpt in R102 is well written.

And it's Dan Schneider who looks hideous these days after losing 100 lbs

I read the free sample on Kindle.

She’s a good writer. The one woman show is almost a financial necessity these days and any writer who has the profile to mount one would be expected to in this day and age.

I read the excerpt too and she seems pretty sharp.

Jennette was hoping for her career to take off probably. She was the breakout star of iCarly. Same with Ariana being the breakout of Victorious. The Sam and Cat show was basically created to capitalize on it. I remember Victorious fans were so pissed the show got cancelled for that spinoff. iCarly got a proper finale while Victorious just randomly ended. Ariana was basically Britney 2.0, babydoll lolita though Ariana is a great singer. Her sex appeal and jailbait sold her. I can get Jennette being pissed, didn't Jennette wanted to go country?

r173 Yet she's been on the interview circuit for over a year now.

r142 r153 It's all frau-nip.

"I have no reason to doubt her. I hate my mother, I hated the pretty girl too. We dress just fine, r155 dammit"

incidentally r155 the clothes are too young for her and the style is about six years late. It screams look at me I'm still a child. Can't you see how emotionally arrested I am? If she was stable, she'd just be an uptight pill. She's really trying to whore out for celebrity in this one. Corey Feldman in drag.

Dang R229 are you okay?

The clothes are hookerish and you want someone younger to wear them... Dan, is that you r229?

I mean, someone has to just say it...

She isn't very pretty. It wasn't very fair for her mother to demand she succeed in show business. She's... rather odd looking. Oh! There's a thread for that!

I think she was a cute kid, but stage moms don't really care about stuff like that because it doesn't really matter how cute your child is in show business. What matters is how compliant, quiet and obedient a child actor is. Ask any casting director that works with kids and if given the choice between a plain child with marginal talent who dutifully follows orders and is quiet and well behaved vs. a beautiful talented child who's running around like a demon hellion, the casting directors will pick the first kid 100% of the time.

This girl (she comes across as a girl, not a woman) seems not exactly credible to me. She also doesn't seem particularly "smart." She does seem desperate attention and what could be more attention getting than a memoir chock full of lurid retellings of mistreatment, how her mother was evil and Hollywood was evil and The Creator was evil that she was just an innocent child used and treated like shit by evil people....blah, blah, blah. And what could be a more eye catching title than "I'm Glad My Mother Is Dead?" Memoirs trumpeting the victimhood of its subject are a dime a dozen. This is just one more.

Many people have been making allegations about Dan Schneider's evil behavior for over a decade. I tend to think where there's smoke, there's usually fire.

R234 didn't even read the book and is just looking for reasons to attack someone

I don't think she comes across as desperate or "girlish."

Dan Schneider is rumored to be the father of Jamie Lynn Spears' first kid. He met her when she was 12 years old.

Dan Schneider is so gross and he's a shitty writer. All his shows are repetitive. Drake and Josh was just a white Kenan and Kel. iCarly, Zoey 101 and Victorious were basically the same premise of cute down-to-earth girl as a foil an wacky ensemble in a high concept environment and tons of bikini scenes and closeups of feet. The same mean-spirited lowbrow humor where nerds and fat people get made fun of, the black characters are loud and obnoxious and the parents are neglectful idiots. The formula did work though.

Has she completely rejected acting now? Because I’m thinking she might be able to pull off a credible Date Wright BioPic, especially tapping into the shared controlling and creepy mother aspects. I think her look is very close to Dare’s with wide set large eyes and a girlish childness about her. For those who don’t know, Dare was a children’s book writer who illustrated them with photographs she set up of dolls and bears in real world scenarios, called The Lonely Doll books, which had the double edge ability to look both innocent and erotic at the same time.

Her mother was controlling and manipulative, and Dare was fucked up at an early age that even the success and fame she earned weren’t corrective enough and instead her life was very sad despite the outward glamour. There’s an excellent biography about her that any credible young actress should have snapped up to produce and star in. Midcentury NYC art, culture, fashion and high living as a backdrop would be a big draw on screen. Mathew Weiner would probably be perfect to write and direct, and his sense of meticulous detail would be perfect for it. It should look even more hyper real than Mad Men, with a bit more of the color and playfulness of the movie Down With Love.

[quote] didn't even read the book and is just looking for reasons to attack someone

I've read excerpts of it and it seems to be written by an immature person who is wallowing in self pity. And no dummkopf, I'm not "looking for reasons to attack someone." I'm just sick of these stupid memoirs by celebrities or semi-celebrities or even noncelebrities that scream "Pity me! Pity me! I'm a VICTIM!" I'd say just by the title of her book that she's certainly desperate for attention.

She doesn't have a childish affect. Why do you keep saying that?

[Quote] just by the title

Yeah, we get it. You're triggered.

[quote] She doesn't have a childish affect. Why do you keep saying that?

After reading some of the things she's said I got the impression she has a teenage mentality.

She addresses her teenage feelings, e.g. re Ariane Grande's ascent, but there's been no Bella Thorne type nonsense from Jennette as of yet.

I believe he's done untoward and pervy things, absolutely. I don't buy that he's the father of Jamie Lynn Spears' daughter, though.

Kel Mitchell's (All That, Kenan & Kel) ex-wife is a messy clout chaser who is desperate for money, but I believe some of her statements that she's seen execs acting inappropriately with the Nickelodeon kids. Where she loses me is when she starts drawing comparisons to Pizza-gate (at the 6 minute mark).

There's a kind of internet troll that hyperfixates on discrediting and throwing doubt on every single claim of any one, especially a rich and powerful man, abusing anyone else. When victims speak out they're called attention whores, crazy. manipulative, contemptible, weak, and liars. The credibility of their claims doesn't really matter to people like this - it just matters that other people never, ever get believed about having been abused. It reeks of extreme unresolved issues from their own past that they don't want to face... or a guilty conscience.

Dog face should be jailed for not adopting a better stage name.

LOL r248. Youtuber Pockets of the Future pronounces her name as McCRUDEy. It's hilarious. He also pronounces Anne Heche's last name as "HEESH" instead of "HASHE."

It's H, like the letter.

R250 - huh?

Anne Heche is pronounced Ann H.

r252, i know how Anne's last name is pronounced. I used to love Another World. I guess I just chose the phonetic spelling based on how I would read it phonetically.

What a weird thing to pick on.

Hashe reads like Hash (as in Hashish), which is not how her surname is pronounced.

I have the full book now and will read it over the weekend.

Jennette absolutely does not sound like a child. She is very eloquent and comes across as intelligent. People can say her book is in poor taste, but the reality is that people have been writing about their lives since the beginnings of written language. Sharing personal stories (even the most hideous ones) is a way for people to relate with one another—and there are more than enough of us who have gone through parental abuse to find something to connect with in a memoir like this. The book seems to be a way for her of closing that chapter on her life and moving forward from her mother's death.

I'm also not down with the idea that you owe a horrible parent respect and veneration just because they dropped dead. If you want people to speak well of you after you're gone, maybe try not being a monstrous piece of shit while you're alive?

The fact that her three older brothers have all been supportive of her book speaks volumes as far as I'm concerned. They are her family members and lived in the same household—they had firsthand knowledge of what was going on in her life. If what she wrote about were untrue, I somehow doubt that all of her siblings would passively let her spew lies about their mother.

R255 same here. I felt lucky that I managed to nab the last copy from a local Target by ordering it online (for store pick-up). I went and got it today after work. The book is sold out at pretty much every online/brick-and-mortar retailer I've seen. I'm sure Simon & Schuster is pumping new copies out like crazy given how fast it sold.

r259 a shill LOL

Her book is trash reading. That's why you can read it in a hour. Trash reads fast.

How that brave Jennette!!

Revealing abuse makes people very angry for some reason

These memoirs are a bore. There are many people like her and her mom. The more interesting memoir would be trying to understand her her mother, looking at her moms upbringing and the system she grew up in.

Mom had a personality disorder, the end.

I heard she’s writing a new book: I’m Glad Anne Heche is (Almost) Dead.

This is one cunting daughter.

I was too old by time iCarly rolled around, but I’m proud of this girl. The book is a bestseller and she’s guaranteed to make millions from it.

The story would make a great adaptation, with her playing her adult self…definitely as a dark comedy.

I love Jennette, especially her hit song, "When I'm Calling You".

R263 tell me about it.

The title of her book is sickening. She's a loser.

How exactly did the mother die? An “accident” or possible poisoning?

[Quote] Makes you wonder about Ariana Grande...

What is there to wonder? Ariana's first album cover had her dressing like Lolita. Victoria is an escort and Elizabeth ended up marrying someone much older who worked on Victorious. And i think Amanda Bynes situation speaks for itself. Of course some messed up shit happened to those kids at Nickelodeon.

The overbearing stage mom, alcohol abuse, calorie counting, eating disorders, etc. are all pretty par for the course amongst people in show business (especially child stars), but what I find particularly disturbing about her relationship with her mother is the compulsion her mom had to be "inspecting" her daughter's vagina for her entire life, and having to always be present while she was bathing. Was it sexual, and her mom getting off by molesting her? Was it just a way to control her via humiliation? Was she wanting to make sure her daughter was still a virgin? The whole thing is just too weird. I know child sex abuse happens a lot, but you rarely hear about it being enacted by a mother onto a daughter.

“One of the worst book titles ever, unless her goal is to have her book hit the remainders pile in record time. It promises an ugly story whose happy ending is that the mother is dead. Yeah, I want to read THAT.

There's a reason such books aim for inspirational titles.”

This comment didn’t age well, [R132]

R275 lol no kidding. It went from "new release" to "[temporarily] out of print" in a matter of 24 hours.

Her mother wanted to keep her "young" and dependant. Menstuation would mean boys. And Debbie did not want any male to take control of Jennette. That was Debbie's job.

She looks like a retard.

[quote] I was too old by time iCarly rolled around, but I’m proud of this girl. The book is a bestseller and she’s guaranteed to make millions from it.

Who are you, her agent? Because somebody is trying very hard to shill this trashy book as a masterpiece that people are stampeding to get their hands on. I'm surprised no one has said there have been riots at bookstores by crazed buyers who are fighting each other for a copy of it.

Well, I’m on Jeanette’s side. I like her, and her mom sounds psycho.

R279 is a shill for her stage mom. As is r278. Who uses "retard" as an insult besides Trump fans?

Why didn’t her Union step in to protect her from her mother?

^ I think her Union rep stepping into the shower with mother and daughter would compound the problem.

[quote]Victoria is an escort

Wait, what?!

R283 lots of rumours about Victoria yachting with her sister. I mean who films a video of their sister masturbating.

I know a few moms of showbiz kids - working child actors who are in films and TV - in NYC, and there’s a strong similarity among the mothers. (the ones I know, at least)

First and foremost, they ALL insist that the kids are the ones who want to work, and if the kids want to stop, they can. I do not believe this.

Secondly, they are all neurotic and wiry. There is a distinct vibe of “personality disorder”.

Thirdly, they are all faded bohemian-type beauties. One is a former model (who should KNOW better), and the others are all thin and attractive with an offbeat dress sense.

It’s very interesting. They’re not bad people, as far as I can tell, but they’re… a type. None of the ones I know are at all religious.

Just anecdotal.

The victimhood of everyone is EXHAUSTING. Wonder if she can tap dance and sing Cry me a river. Uggggg

At least she's eloquent, classy and making money and not acting like a crazy whore like Bella Thorne or Demi Lovato. Her title is a bit shocking but honestly if you had an abusive narcissistic parent you'd understand the sigh of relief when they die. The manipulating, fear and shame they instill into you from day one. Gaslighting you and shaming you all the time. Making you feel hideous and inadequate at every corner. It's like having a monster in your life you can't get rid of easily. When this monster dies, that codependency, the burden and guilt can finally go away. Jennette is healing from her trauma and dark humor is a coping mechanism. She's being productive here unlike La Lohan and Themi.

I think she's making a lot of her shit up. It's like she's trying for "The Most Abused Child Star Of All Time" award.

[Quote] At least she's eloquent, classy and making money and not acting like a crazy whore like Bella Thorne or Demi Lovato.

How is Demi a whore? And Bella's behaviour makes sense. She was sexually abused by a family member. She should use that OnlyFans money for therapy.

Jennette’s in the right, and has the right and the ability to share her story.

What’s weird to me is that she’s apparently not a lesbian. She pings to Alpha Centauri. Suppose having a mother that abusive would put you off women for life, though.

This is a good interview. Jennette is clearly very wary about wading into The Creator business. I expect she'll talk in more depth when he gets Weinsteined.

Jeanette doesn't have a choice. She won't be able to talk about Dan without getting sued. Having his co-star as the head of Paramount helps too.

Wondering if that’s partly what this memoir is—a warning shot to D*n, “if I’ll reveal all this about my own mother, imagine what I’ll tell the world about you when the time is ripe.”

If it is, she’s got more guts than most women working in the industry.

I believe what Jennette wrote, because her mother’s behaviour to the entire family is something I have seen time and time again from manipulative women whom should not be parents.

I don’t know what the percentage is of people who make up these kinds of stories. Rather small, I’d wager.

I do know the percentage of people who are accused of making these things up is a solid 100%.

Right, R295 - literally without fail.

Her tales are so outrageously lurid they do seem to come from a very imaginative mind. I think she just wants to sell books. And have a movie made depicting her poor, poor life as a tv star making hundreds of thousands of dollars an episode.

If that were the case, she'd have rushed a book out after Sam & Cat didn't return for a second season.

Yeah because childrens TV pays hundreds of thousands an episode. Yeah fucking right.

No one in her life has contradicted a thing she's written.

She was earning 100k an episode at one point.

iCarly was very big on par with Hannah Montana, That's So Raven, Wizards of Waverly Place and Lizzie McGuire. A shit ton of merchandise and endorsement deals were made. The cast got well-paid. Jennette isn't writing this book solely for money.

[quote] No one in her life has contradicted a thing she's written.

Her mother can't because she's dead. And if she'd named "The Creator" he would have sued the hell out of her.

Well, her dad who isn't her dad hasn't said shit, has he?

"Her New Hollywood Goals?" After her supposedly horrific experience as a child star she still wants to be part of "Hollywood, with all its pressures and abuses and sexual predators? She's in it for the money, alright.

I've listened to a couple of her podcasts and she was pretty straightforward about hating performing in shows where she thought the material was shit. I expect that's a bigger part of why she said no to the iCarly reboot.

It's funny she hated acting on it. Sam was easily the best character on iCarly. That show would have tanked without Jennette honestly and Jerry Trainor who played the goofy older brother to Carly. Miranda isn't naturally funny at all.

[Quote] Miranda isn't naturally funny at all.

When you're gifted, then you're gifted.

R297 They’re not outrageously lurid at all, I have no idea why people are saying this. It’s not the stuff of a John Waters film.

Jennette’s experiences are pretty much what you would expect of a Millennial put to work as a to upper the family as a child actor by a compulsive and controlling Mormon mother with breast cancer, and all the ways the mother’s illnesses manifested into the family.

R395 “in it for the money”? In what for the money?

… so she’s not allowed to earn a living?

[quote] They’re not outrageously lurid at all, I have no idea why people are saying this. It’s not the stuff of a John Waters film.

It sure is! She said her brother gave her "breast and vaginal exams" ostensibly looking for cancerous lumps. That sounds very John Waters-like to me.

[quote] “in it for the money”? In what for the money?

She wrote the book for money. Not to help abuse victims. Not to purge herself of all her horrible memories of being a well paid child star. Some people think she's being "brave" by writing this book. But it seem more plausible that she wrote it simply because she wants the cash generated from a book with a smashingly attention getting title: "I'm Glad My Mom Is Dead" and a lot of ghastly stories of her victimhood. You sound very naive and trusting and gullible.

R312 therapy isn't that expensive these days, you know.

Excuse me, she said it was her dear old Ma who gave her the breast and vaginal exams. Real John Waters stuff.

R313, I guess you should know all about inexpensive therapy.

So she wrote the book to “help victims” or for “charity” you would be ok with that?

Weird.

R311 her brother did not examine her breast and vagina.

It’s not John Waters stuff. Parents like this exist in every school in America. It’s the rather prosaic stuff of childhood abuse by a damaged mother who treated her daughter as a cash cow and attempted to create her into a permanent child.

If they make a Gypsy like musical out of this, what would they call it and who would write it?

Jenette's mother reminds me of the character Barbara Hershey played in Black Swan.

I swear…being the daughter of a mother seems exhausting.

McCurdle reminds me of a turtle. Screw her and her Mommie Dearest bullshite. Profiting from a tell all is one thing, titling it like she did was beyond poor taste. No credibility.

P.O.S. is holding an urn with that smug look on her face. Blames her mom for her own bad personality. This bland loser would be making french fries somewhere if it weren't for her mother. Watch out people. Your kids can and will turn on you. Poster person for abortions.

When the fuck did DLers become politically correct pearl-clutching hausfraus? Isn't this the type of subversive humor us gays are supposed to love? I know people here had parents who hated them for being gay and treated them like shit. So what's up with this idea we're supposed to respect shitty parents who put themselves before our well-being? This chick may have money but didn't need to be humiliated and abused to get it. You all are wack as hell.

Your parents still deserve a smidge of respect and decency for not putting your self entitled ass out on the streets. You can't blame your parents for everything. Take responsibility for your own messes. People who blame others are usually assholes themselves.

R325 I don't care. When you become a parent, your child owes you nothing. That's the deal when you procreate. If you're a shitty parent, you deserve no respect. If you're a good parent, you get respect. Respect is earned, period. Why should we care what she says or does anyway?

Even though you don't owe them anything, they are still a part of your DNA. By blood or not. It's alright to profit from a book, just don't be inhuman about it. Show a little mercy even if you weren't shown much, yourself. Shock value title alone tells volumes about this bitch.

[Quote] Why should we care what she says or does anyway?

That's sort of the point of this thread.....

Filthy liar. Her stories make me uncomfortable. Screw her. Shut your trap. Filthy liar. Unclean!

And we have Margaret White joining us at R329

I’m with you R324 I can’t believe people on this site are defending the evil things the mom did to her

R324 is right. Half of the contributions in this thread read like they were written by a band of self-righteous biddies at a Southern Baptist luncheon circa 1987.

"Oh golly me, Margene, that Jennette McCurdy is an ungrateful little B-I-T-C-H, isn't she? Her mama forced her to do calorie countin'? Well, dearie me. Guess what, Jennette? That calorie countin' is what gives you that slender physique and keeps the mens looking atcha! And so what if her mama was puttin' her fangers up in her in the shower? Good grief, she was just makin' sure Jennette hadn't been foolin' around with them Nickelodeon boys. I always made sure to check my little Delilah's sally when I was givin' hers a bath. Had to make sure her uncle Darrell wasn't playin' with her down by the crick, if you know what I mean."

Is McCurdy's grandmother still alive? The unhinged responses from one poster, calling her 'filthy', etc., sound just like the grandmother. If it's you, grandma, have a hardy 'fuck off'! You are a abuser who deserves to be exposed. You and every other nightmare parent who ruins childhoods.

[quote] I can’t believe people on this site are defending the evil things the mom did to her

I assume you believe everything she's said. But I don't buy her tales of woe. It just doesn't ring true to me. I think it's very telling that she came with all this AFTER her mother was dead. And that she won't name "The Creator." The shock value title of her book also makes me think she made most if not all of it up just to sell books. I've believed some people's tales of abuse but not this girl's.

So many fraus on this thread.

That or Dina Lohan is drunk in the parking lot at Outback Steakhouse and can't find her keys

[quote] Your parents still deserve a smidge of respect and decency for not putting your self entitled ass out on the streets.

Except she's saying that she was her mother's meal ticket. Whether you believe any other portion of JM's story, her being the family breadwinner does ring true.

So, her mother wouldn't have put her out on the street.

2 of her 3 brothers have spoken to the press saying Mommy was a monster, and no one in the family's sphere has denied anything she's written. But yes, her mom was DEFINITELY Donna Reed.

[quote] Half of the contributions in this thread read like they were written by a band of self-righteous biddies at a Southern Baptist luncheon circa 1987.

[quote] So many fraus on this thread

Funny, I put one of them on ignore and all the similar seething frothing 1987 Southern Baptist posts disappeared all at once - it's all ONE person. Bitch, get a therapist, stat.

[quote] 2 of her 3 brothers have spoken to the press saying Mommy was a monster, and no one in the family's sphere has denied anything she's written.

Maybe the brothers are sharing in the profits of the book. And of course no one in the family has "denied anything she's written." They know if they did they would be hit with a barrage of hate from gullible twats who believe everything they read. They know enough to keep their mouths shut.

R339 so corroborating witnesses aren't enough for you - is there anything that will get you to admit it's possible her mother was actually an abusive psycho? Or are you too a Southern Baptist taking a break from 1987?

[quote] is there anything that will get you to admit it's possible her mother was actually an abusive psycho?

Oh, it's possible. Anything is possible. It's also possible she's making shit up to sell books and rejuvenate her career. I tend to think it's the latter.

OK, but why do you find it so hard to believe? What’s your damage?

I find it easy to believe a stage mother was a monster. I’ve met a few.

[quote] OK, but why do you find it so hard to believe? What’s your damage?

She doesn't seem credible to me. Just looking at picturea of her makes me think "something is not right about this chick." Obviously YOUR damage is that you believe everything you read.

[quote]Just looking at picture of her makes me think "something is not right about this chick." A photograph represents 1/60th of a second or so of someone's life, depending on the shutter speed of the camera. Not much to base a judgement on.

[quote] Not much to base a judgement on.

It's not just that. She gives off a very weird vibe. It's like she's desperate for pity and the money she can make by promoting her story about what a victim she was/is.

I get the “VIBE” you’re a cretin.

R347, I don't get a vibe that you're moronic. I know that you are.

I find the scrutiny that her claims have received on DL very bizarre and reeking of paranoia/a conspiracy theory mindset. If Jennette in fact quit acting so that she could spend years inventing a plethora of revulsive stories about her dead mother to be pimped out for cash (a portion of which she's divvying out to her older brothers as hush money), that would make her a veritable sociopath.

The title is transgressive, of course people are going to buy it. It validates your own experiences with their parents. There are millions of people who yelled at least once to their moms “I hate you and I hope you will die!” or wrote it in their tear-stained diaries. Yet the societal norms frown upon expressing such emotions, so when they wrote it, they subconsciously expected to be struck down by lightning or something. And now they see it printed, pretty in pink. Of course it sells.

R5, the title is funny as is the book's cover. There is nothing "gruesome" about it.

"Gruesome" is abusing your own daughter sexually, psychologically and financially.

This book has to be very uncomfortable for abusers. Society has changed so much in the past few years and it is not in their favor anymore.

R312 Spoken like a true frau. It isn’t her moral duty to “help abuse victims.” Good for her making a buck or two off her story. Plenty of authors and screenwriters have become successful and are lauded for telling the embellished version of their life experiences. Why shouldn’t she?

R352 are you sure about that? What happened with Johnny and Amber says otherwise.

She’s very likable. Seems to be smart and funny. She’s also one of the few child stars that grew up to look and sound like an actual grown woman.

[quote]But I don't buy her tales of woe. It just doesn't ring true to me.

No one gives two shits about what a dumbass like you thinks.

It does raise an eyebrow that she claims to have abandoned disordered eating yet she's skinnier than her Sam & Cat etc. days.

Maybe her goal weight is less than DLers would choose for her.

[quote] Why shouldn’t she?

If she's lying or greatly exaggerating that would be a good reason why she shouldn't. I guess you believe everything anybody people write or say. How sad that is J This crap reminds me of Judy Garland. She had a virulent hatred for her mother and vilified her incessantly until the end of her life. Her hatred of her mother kicked in after she went into psychoanalysis and was told by a psychiatrist that most people's problems stem from their relationship with their mothers. A light bulb went off in Judy's head: "Aha! SHE'S to blame from everything." Among other things, Judy Garland accused her mother of "pouring pills down her throat at age 10" and offering her to Louis B. Mayer as a sexual plaything. There's no evidence to support either of those claims; you just had to take Judy's word for it. As so it is with Jennette Whats-her-Name. You just have to take her word for all of it. But believing something is true just because somebody says it....whew, that is beyond stupid.

R359, you have no proof these things aren't true but happily defend the abusers.

Maybe just listen to both sides and withhold judgement.

r357 = Dan Schneider

If she wanted to revive her career, she would have appeared on the iCarly reboot.

Love that McCurdy's book is bugging the shit out of abusers.

It's only one troll.

[quote] It's only one troll

Nah, there are quite a few people who think she's full greedy and full of shit. But the bleeding heart dipshits like yourself who believe anything are more prominent because of their copious weeping for the poor, poor little rich celebrity who had to endure so much. Poor fools.

It's definitely one triggered troll but it looks like she changed her IP after everyone called her out up-thread. Get a life!

Maybe it's Dan Schneider, R366! He's got plenty of time and you know he's filled with rage he lost his pedo feifdom.

Jeanette Whosis reminds me a lot of B.D. Hyman. She came out with a scurrilous book about her mother Bette Davis. Her brother (adopted) Michael told her not to publish the book, that it was "dirthy laundry." She said that she felt that she HAD to. He said "you DON'T have to." She said yes she did and besides she'd been paid a lot of money for it. He said "give the money back." She didn't. It was surmised, and probably correctly, that B.D. thought Davis would die before the book came out, because she'd been gravely ill with cancer and strokes. But Bette David DIDN'T die; she lived and she refuted B.D's version of her, saying that B.D. was a "great purveyor of fiction." In Jeanette Whosis's case she patiently waited until her mother was six feet under until she came out with with how evil her mother was. Yes, she's a B.D. Hyman type, alright.

Jennette is the name, hon. Debbie's the B.D.

Yeah she has so much in common with BD Hyman...

Oh wait...Jennette's mother lived off of HER money.

Jennette's siblings are backing her up.

Yes...much in common.

[quote] Yes...much in common.

They both wrote books reviling their mothers and got paid handsomely for it. A greedy, nasty thing to do. Two of a kind.

By the way, the fact that Jennette Whats-Her-Face waited until her mama was dead before coming out with her accusations speaks volumes. And if she was really "brave" she'd name The Creator. But she won't do that because she'd get sued.

Who cares what her siblings say? No doubt they're heavily invested in this too. Probably want to get a book deal themselves.

Silly.

The Seething Jeannette McCurdy troll is easily the most hilariously unhinged DLer in a while.

[Quote] And if she was really "brave" she'd name The Creator. But she won't do that because she'd get sued.

Because you would actually believe Jeanette if she named Dan? I hate to break it to you, but she is not the first (or the last actor) to do that.

Dumb fuckers reliving their sad ICarly years. Worshipping the downer JM.

R373 up there with the "OJ was Nicole's victim Troll"

Her book is excellent. I read Sarah Polley’s book earlier in the year as well and both together are the proof of why it is fundamentally unethical for children to be out for work as entertainers.

Cliffs on Polley's book?

There was a thread on Polley’s book.

Jada and Willow are treacly and insufferable as usual, but I thought this was an interesting conversation, and some of the details are horrid and really demonstrate just how warped her mother was. I had (have—she's still alive) a mother who was emotionally incestuous, desperate, and psychologically abusive and can relate to many of the things Jennette talks about. My mother also came from a highly abusive environment.

It is true that people often don't acknowledge (or want to acknowledge) abuse from a mother toward a child—it's a hard pill to swallow. But mothers can in fact be evil, and do just as much damage to their children (if not more) than fathers. Despite the fact that I love her, I know that my mother inflicted a lot of psychological abuse on me and my brother that I will live with for the rest of my life.

Red Table Talk is a really good space for Jennette to discuss the book.

R381 why?

Thought DT was mostly Elder gay until this thread. Dreadful.

Donald Trump is not gay. He is elderly.

I'm 73 and i like iCarly, Sam & Cat and Jennette. However, I wonder if I care as much (as I did before).

My bad. Nickelodean rules. Carry on.

R383 the millennial gays will inevitably inherit DL as the eldergays die off. The Judy Garland and Betty Bacall threads will slowly slip into oblivion. Such is life.

Pity.

R382 a couple of reasons, Jenette’s book is a surprising, massive hit, and this will give her a road into an urban market that she may not have fully tapped.

I’m not that into the topics they discuss so I haven’t watched many episodes, but what I have seen is well produced for exactly this kind of thing.

Willow is pretty useless but the grandmother and Jada manage to keep things conversational and are eager to learn about the subjects while not sucking up /lobbing gotcha questions/mocking them. They pull off the difficult balance having a “safe space” which makes the interviewees more comfortable to be challenged that they would otherwise be doing press.

So I think it’s a good venue for Jennette to discuss this book.

R48 Her “sort of nutty mom” bathed and subjected her to vaginal probes up to the age of seventeen.

R389 yeah Willow really contributed saying "wow" every few minutes. But Jada and her mother were good.

[quote] Filthy liar. Her stories make me uncomfortable. Screw her. Shut your trap. Filthy liar. Unclean! — R329

☝🏻 Debra McCurdy from the Great Beyond.

Reading the book, it is actually creepy just how much her mom gave Margaret White vibes—down to the detail that she would regularly brandish a kitchen knife while threatening Jennette's father. If even half of what Jennette wrote is true, I feel sorry for her.

R389 thanks for explaining. I've never watched Red Table Talk and any discussion surrounding Jada would just turn to bashing on here.